Rich Eisen Breaks Down Jim Harbaugh & Chargers’ Myriad NFL Draft Options | The Rich Eisen Show
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- Rich Eisen breaks down Jim Harbaugh and the Chargers’ options with the #5 pick in the NFL Draft.
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Have you seen the smile on herberts face at OTAs? Hes got palmer and a coach he can trust, he will be good!
Palmer is WR3 on 95% of the other teams in the NFL, saying he has Palmer as his "go to weapon" is a joke
When does Herbert NOT have a smile on his face, only during games really
@@Shadowangel5760 The coach he can trust part is where adding more players comes in, truuuuust
Has Herbert actually achieved anything in his NFL career worthy of smiling??
He won't be a Charger next season
Sane Charger fan here for 50 years, since '73. We've played in ONE SB, underdogs by 17 and couldn't cover the spread.
Justin had to put up numbers cause we couldn't run the ball or stop the run or the pass. It's all about winning and I don't think Justin cares if his numbers drop if we're winning. Look up Justin's record when our D holds teams under 28 points.
With a running game and stopping the run we'll control the clock and win games.
What the heck is your guy there meaning by 'that's not today's game'? The damage to Herbert's body these last few seasons should make it evident we need to protect him or lose him.
I'm with you, not a fan for as long as you., But I've been here since 1988. I watched the blood bath that was the Super Bowl. The Chargers have never had all the pieces in place simultaneously. When our Offense was good, we didn't have a defense. When we have had a defense, our offense has stunk. We have never had any emphasis on the O-line and D-line. Football is won and lost in the trenches. If this team gets the lines correct, they will build a winner.
@@sludgedisciple1981 here. I was in Columbus GA, stationed at Benning. Only Chargers fan there it felt like, wearing my Means jersey. I remember that bloodbath well. 21-0 five minutes into the game then Natrone goes in from the 1 to put us on the board. I saw something on here where they talked about that they were being intimidated by the lights and everything in the SB. Gotta get another SB. Let’s go MHJ!!!!⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️
Exactly Rich! How did it work before?! It didn't, I trust him and the process, we now have a smart competent staff that has experience in winning which it's been a long time for us fans. I'm ready for it bolt up ⚡️⚡️
Chris sounds like almost every new chargers fan out there. You can ask for harbaugh then complain out his style of play lol. Lorenzo Neal said it best: you can’t pray for rain and then complain about the mud.
This ain’t yo daddy’s chargers this coming season!!
I think Herbert trusts the process. He’s been through hell. He trusts Harbaugh.
And you're basing this of.....?
@@TomboBrewster besides his rookie season, he’s got injured every season. Broken ribs and broken fingers. A solid run game will help take the stress and wear and tear off Herbert. And force the defense to play more balanced. If you look at last season, opponents defense didn’t respect our run game at all and barely put any extra guys in the box.
Honestly, I don't trust Herbert or the Chargers. The Chargers are the most frustrating team to watch. Hyped up every season and they just flop. I do trust Haurbugh though.
If I were Herbert (who is constantly hyped up as this great QB yet injury prone and hasn't achieved anything) if this season flops too, I'd be asking for a trade out of LA
@@elscruffomcscruffy8371honestly, no one cares.
As a Bolt Fan Since Fouts, I am all about a solid run game, a stout Def and a CHAMPIONSHIP!!
Apparently the Chargers fell in love with Nabers during their meetings
When they zig, we zag! ⚡⚡⚡
The best part about harbuaghs regime is that they treat the media like the media.
Staley treated the media like they were his coaching partners and scouts personal guys
I'm hoping that Arizona takes Harrison because that would make the Chargers number five pick even more valuable. There will still be a number of teams desperate to pick up a QB and might be willing to give the Chargers the picks that they need to fill some holes. As far as Herbert is concerned he will obviously have a better running game to help set up play action and convert those third and fourth down situations that they sucked on in recent years. I'm hoping that the Bolts pick up a wide out and a right tackle in the early rounds, but also an impact player on defense as well. I like the moves I've seen so far, but until they improve the defense they can only hope for a wide card spot in the playoffs.
Good point! The Cardinals will take MHJ (even though I think he has red flags with attitude and refusing to workout). Chargers will take best available player, an Olineman. Though, trading back would allow both OL and WR/TE. Herbert needs to be protected as a priority. He's sooooo injury prone and hasn't done anything yet. Slightly overhyped to be honest
@elscruffomcscruffy8371 who's injury prone?
Chargers either trading or will get Nabers… either way it will be a W for them
This
No one is trading three first rounders to get JJ McCarthy lol. Thats never been a reality. He will still be there at 11 for Minnesota. We will be picking 5th and it better be one of the stud WRs
I honestly think they take a tackle. Harbaugh wants to run the ball unless Harrison Jr is there.
Crazy to hear fans worried about Herbert’s weapons when the current SB Champs had thumb thumbs for receivers. Rich is on the money. We’ve done the same old song and dance for too long. Let’s change it up and trust in Harbaugh.
I think it's awesome that the "3 - yards and a cloud of dust" football philosophy is back. Shotti got fired over it (partly) and this organization hasn't been the same since he left. This team went to the Super Bowl with Natron Means. The best team other than that featured LT. Hell, Fouts had Muncie. This team needs a run game. Pretty sure the only stat Herbert and crew care about at this point is Ws v. Ls. Harbaugh's track record is pretty damned good so the likelihood they are in the playoffs next year are pretty good. All we heard about leading up to free agent season was how the Chargers were in cap hell. Now they aren't. Yeah, they lost Mike Williams and Keenan Allen. But Williams has been injured a lot anyway and Keenan was in the last year of his contract. They got a 4th for that guy so yeah, Hortiz is making big-boy moves. So yeah, trust the process, trust the coaches, trust this GM. It's different which scares people but why do the same old thing that keeps not working?
I'd love to see the Chargers just pummel the crap out of the AFC West for once
Totally agree. Let's try something different!
Chargers will get a WR or Offensive lineman if they don't trade the pick. Bowers wouldn't make sense at that spot.
Plenty of decent WRs and O- Linemen. I say the Chargers take best available player. I say protect Herbert first, as the dude is so injured all of the time. He can throw to anyone. Give him good protection first
@@elscruffomcscruffy8371 That doesn't include Bowers. He's not known for blocking.
Herbert should say "In Jim I trust." Even in a loaded AFC as well pretty damn good AFC West, Harbaugh will get the Chargers to at least 10 wins this season. Everywhere Harbaugh has went to in his first year, he immediately turned around the team and culture. As a die hard Michigan fan, Go fing Blue! And now go fing Chargers!
If the Cardinals draft Marvin Harrison, I think the Chargers should trade out if the Vikings or another team decides to move up
Give Herbie a run game and an actual defense and he'll make any receiver look like an all-pro. Keenan and Mike have missed plenty of time, Herbert has made due with the scraps and broken records with em.
Go look up the WRs he was throwing to in his playoff game.
Sponsor Herbert with sporting tape to hold the guy together. Massively injury-prone!
Herbert didn't lose the Jax game. The Defense and lines and our bad coach did. That hangover hovered over this team the whole year last year.
I honestly would love for the Giants to move up 1 spot with us. Id rather 6 and their 2nd than 11/23 from the Vikes. I dont want to miss out on Nabers/Bowers or Odunze. None make it to 11. And with how deep this draft is at WR? And how much this offense will be in 12 Personnel? A guy like Bowers with his YAC? Imagine if Kelce or Andrews were beasts after the catch. No TE in the league is Bowers when he has the ball in his hands. He becomes a monster. He is Derrick Henry after the catch. Bowers at 6 and then get a stud WR in the 2nd. If we stay at 5 and the Cards trade out its Harrison easy.
Oh nobody is trading? Just yesterday we were making up stories about the pats trading up from 3 to 2
Yes yes yes. Bolt fan approved.
rich knows ball, everyone thinking on the surface level
I think harbaugh will have a set of safeties that will be very physical all game long with kelce when they play each other. Thats the only way to stop the chiefs, and they will have to beat up on kelce and have him exhausted. I think it's the key to beating the chiefs
Spot on! Travis Kelce actually doesn't like contact! He will catch a ball and either flop to the ground instantly or run out of bounds. Plus, the SB revealed his frustration when denied the ball. You could argue that Mahomes interception early in the 2nd half was a result of Kelce having a massive sulk at not getting the ball. The pass was overthrown and turned over.
Press Kelce hard! And call him out for running his mouth all the time and instigating pushing and shoving (again, SB, hes in every scuffle yet no flags). The trouble is that Mahomes is the NFL poster boy and will be protected. Massive sulk if he doesn't get his way with the refs.
@@elscruffomcscruffy8371 The way you tie yourself in knots trying to explain away the fact that KC are simply better and Mahomes is already on a level Herbert will never, ever reach. Good luck with that genius plan for Kelce too, it's been tried plenty of times before and he just torches you. It's nice to see all the usual pre-season bravado from Bolts fans though. I'm sure getting the 3rd most successful HC in the division will completely turn the franchise around and the QB will suddenly figure out how to get to the post season consistently and not choke when he gets there.
Thought Kelce retired lol
@@mathewjones8886 only time will tell!
If the Patriots select Maye, then they better be ready to take another QB in 2 years b/c he'll be running for his life behind one of the worst Olines. But, Kraft will be happy to make his money. Jerseys will sell. Fans will root for "The Hope of Maye." Media will LOVE it (Phil Perry in particular)
Maye will take time to develop. Better for Pats to trade down or let Maye sit for at least a few weeks.
Aka, the Bears conundrum too! Williams will be running for his life, play hero ball, sulk when hos pass is intercepted by better DBs, then become disinterested with a few losses and sulk.
Calling it now with a Boston Herald Headline;
It's Gonna Be Maye! 🏈
Go Harbaugh. Go Hortiz. Go Bolts...
Last year with Herbert? I wouldn't be shocked if he wants out somewhere else
When Baltimore played KC if their rookie receiver held onto the ball until he got in the end zone that's a different game
But he didn't and the Chiefs spent the entire second half playing within themselves while they watched the Ravens implode. If the game had gotten close at any point then the gameplan from KC would have changed massively.
Same with the Niners. If BI had run his pattern through the end zone BP had him sighted in for a TD. I believe there was second incident that. In addition the Niners also got caught with their DBs and Corners not sticking with the Chiefs through the complete plays. Result-Mahomes scored.
Gotta go full on Rivers. Bolo all the way!!!! And since Keenan was traded, I’ll probably have a spot in my heart for the Bears. I wanna see Keenan succeed. And we gotta LEARN HOW to tackle Travis Kelce.
This draft & MHarrison will be the draft that makes or breaks them!!!!
If the Chargers run into the Chiefs in the playoffs hopefully Jim will give the ball to his running backs more than 6 times unlike how John did
herbert doesn't care about his stats he just wants to win, harbaugh is the best coach he has ever had and will make him a winner
Most charger fans and ALL chargers trust Harbaugh. He has brought in an all-star coaching staff, proven winner, we let go of old players killing the cap and he knows at least 4 years worth of all college players, so next 4 year drafts will be great for a decade.
But do they trust Justin Herbert? Injury prone, and has actually achieved... nothing in his NFL career. Is this the year? Or will he be traded next season
Chargers gotta draft Joe Alt, his dad was an All-Pro tackle for the Chiefs. We can invest time into teaching him the right tackle position, you also cant teach 6 foot 8.
I’m excited to watch a game where Hebert doesn’t have to sit in the pocket and throw 40+ passes every weekend or get sacked several times because our offense is one dimensional and can’t run the ball.
Interesting. Does Haubaugh take Blake Corrum from his Michigan team?
Ekeler rushed for over 900 yards just two years ago when healthy. More than Gus Edwards has ever rushed for in his career lol. Casual comment.
Chris Brockman ... I get you have to be "Devils Advocate" ... But sit down you don't know what you're talking about.
The run game will help Herbert more then Mike williams 4 games out of the year and Keenan Allens being double covered everydown.
Herbert a perennial mvp candidate 😂😂 bro ain't been a fringe candidate once
Hopefully Ballard will trade up and save the JETS from taking Brock Bowers
Respectfully disagree. Here is the draft logic:
This is why the Bolts will dictate how the entire draft plays out. Essentially, the Bolts can block the cards from trading up to 5 if the Vikings trade with the cards up to 4. Which would prevent the Cards from selecting MHJ. Discussions have taken place between the Bolts and cards about making a trade? Of course they have. During these discussions the Bolts can say we will not allow you to trade up to 5 and select MHJ. Theirby preventing the cards from selecting MHJ at all. When it’s clear this is the player Arizona covets. This will result in Arizona selection MHJ and a strong possibility of the Chargers trading out of 5 with a team like Minnesota or NYG. The only way I can see these scenarios from playing out is if the Pats and Cards swap pics.
The Cardinals at at 4th pick. How can the Chargers block them from selecting at 5th? You lost me
@@elscruffomcscruffy8371 the cards will want to trade back up to 5 to select Marvin Harrison Jr. He’s a true number 1 (x) receiver and this is arguably the biggest need.
I swear to god every time some know nothing podcaster says "how does justin feels about this?" makes me wait to eat a nail gun
Go for it
if 1 of the 4 QBs is still on the board at # 5, Broncos gonna trade their first (#12), next year's first, and Patrick Surtain II, to the Chargers ⚡👍
First of all I dont think they would trade within the division especially with what you have them tradeing. It would have to but alot more then that. Also, JJ is going to be the #4 or #5 pick if a trade happens and why would Jim want him to go to the Broncos?
Tough call gifting your division rival more leverage in picks. Broncos need to settle for a QB in the 2nd round. Build your line first make it solid and majority if QBs would thrive with time and protection
Malik Nabers or Marvin Harrison come on down....:>)
Odunze is better than Nabers
Id just take Bowers if they cant trade the pick, the reason why is he best past catcher, and WR class is deep, the TE class isnt. Is it too high to take him? Yes, but he is better than than Pitts when he was drafted. If you look at Jims 49ers they where run heavy but run heavy in 2nd half. 1st half they where league average.
If Haubagh is going to replicate his Michigan team, and lean on a run game (which makes sense, to help Herbert establish PAP and not throw 40 times a game) then as good of a player as Bowers is, he is more of a pass catching option, not run blocking. The upside is developing him into Kittle who is now an excellent blocking TE. Could be an option
@@elscruffomcscruffy8371 I think people will change their minds once they see the product, he just wants to be able to run the football consistently, because its good for the QB and its great for our Def. If you look at his 49ers team they didn't run the ball as much as people think they did. there are heaps of run first off in the league, now can that win SB because 49ers have lost twice and they perfect example of run first off. People have got this image in their head that he going to run the ball 75% time.
@@elscruffomcscruffy8371 You dont need Bowers to block, thats what they are paying Dissly $14 million to do
There’s always a chance that Herbert is just Rivers 2.0. So we will see.
Ive been saying this for two years now....
You say it like it's a bad thing. I understand we are starved for some winning. But was it on Rivers that those teams weren't good in the postseason? Some franchises haven't ever had the talent we have had at QB through the years.
This offense is one that QB'S die in. No matter hoe good your run game is, if they know you have no passing game they just stuff rhe box. Im sorry but Palmer is a #3 @ best. QJ is a bust. So we have 0 receivers basically.
Hard to watch the show Rich if you let that guy chime in too often. Turning it off.
Jim loves tightends Bowers to Chargers
We already have FOUR of them
Get your popcorn and hotdogs. Bring your sleeping bsg have a good nap. Boring zzzz
Cant wait to see how the Chargers are gonna mess this up. Go bolts!
No, Herbert isn't asking that question. You may not know because you have never played a sport. Do you know football? Bald guy, sorry don't know your name.
Chris Brockman,oro mouth piece and Pats bandwagoner
@@elscruffomcscruffy8371 Thank you. He reminds me of Jabba's little side kick, Selascious.
7:30 Rich as a chargers fan, I love Keenan Allen.
He is NOT a hall of famer.
C'mon man.
Trade JH and get extra picks then draft JJ with 5th pick to ensure winless season for years to come. JJ...what a joke
Marvin Harrison played big consistently vs key opponents. Rome Odunze, he was good at times and disappeared at times in big games
Funny you mention trading Herbert. I have a feeling if this season is a flop, then Herbert needs to go
Hes got a no trade clause and would be a $120 million cap hit if you did trade him, so he's not going anywhere. Dont be a casual.
Rich, you still racist?
Harbaugh should trade the farm to move up and draft his boy JJ. Or was he lying when he declared him the best overall player in the draft
and do what with Herbert? Hes got a no trade clause and would be a $120 million cap hit if you did trade him, so he's not going anywhere. Dont be a casual.
Wouldn’t it be fun if the Chargers
shock everyone and draft JJ McCarthy?
Herbert has a no trade clause and would be a $120 million cap hit if you did trade him, so he's not going anywhere. Dont be a casual.
Not a casual. Rams, with 11 picks, move up to 5. Bolts take UCLA’s DE Latu @ #19, for a #1 in ‘25.
Chargers need to draft new ownership and go back to San Diego.