If a friend has had a drink too much and not fit to go home and you really care, for safety reasons, either you personally take the friend home or let the friend sleep over. Don't send the friend off in a taxi.
My deepest condolences to you and your family and friends and her friends until you are reunited once again with your beautiful daughter in heaven🙏🙏🙏🙏♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️
Why wasn’t this guy charged with assaulting a minor whether they were dating or not she was 16 years old when he was almost 40 years old sadly he knew how to groom a minor just like a peudophile would do to his victim he might have been good looking but it would be a huge red flag for me if I were her family or friends
@@niamphdollieofficialAre you sure about that? Better check again!!! 😂 Women just like to poison people more than men. Tons more females that never get caught. You are also forgetting about kids that kill
@@niamphdollieofficial26:26 she was in on it and or did one of them and or helped! Why would she keep staying around him and end up moving in with him ? Oh yea, she had something to do with it
Indiana resident here - Jill Behrman’s brother was my sixth grade homeroom teacher, and he had a photo of her on his desk. It had been over ten years since she had disappeared, and he teared up every time he spoke about her. Even a class full of rowdy middle schoolers went silent and solemn. Such a heartbreaking story, as well as Lauren. I never even considered going to Bloomington for college, and it seems I still won’t. Rest easy, girls. ❤ You’re missed dearly, and are not forgotten.
@@Tricethelibra In order to claim coincidences are real, you have to also doubt the power and reasoning of God. Now, I know I don't know everything God does, nor will I EVER know all of His reasons for everything He does. Therefore, there's no such thing as a coincidence. I cannot doubt God just because I don't understand why/how He does everything He does. However, you do have your own freewill. I'm not saying that you have to or even need to believe what I do and I'm not trying to change your mind, either. But I don't doubt God and His power 🙏
Your daughter is no less than a HERO!!! Because of her fighting back, she saved who knows how many women’s lives! Clearly, she was a remarkable and strong woman. I’m sure she takes after her mother!!!God bless and strengthen you!
A woman being intoxicated doesn't " put herself in that situation " it doesn't give a man a pass to tske advantage of her. Not to mention she was home! He is a predator, and most likely a serial killer.
He sure collected those women as if they were trophies. Really sad and for him to be walking around with a smirk and his lawyer saying they would get him out of a jail is unbelievable. Hope he rots in jail
For goodness sake she’s a grieving mum. I’m certain she would never mean that. I’ve said things I regret when I’ve realised I’ve a said something I didn’t mean. I’m sure I’m not the only one here. At the end she said thank god he’s off the streets to hurt any other innocent girl.
Yes I would say something like I wish this never happened. But I would not even think to say I wish he took someone else’s daughter. That would never cross my mind. So it is weird that she said it that way
Any grieving mother would think that. That's if she's being honest. People have to be fake to avoid judgemental people. I love my daughter, I would have said the same thing.
The people jumping all over her for one thoughtless sentence are happily displaying their own misogyny. It's common in murder cases: certain people try to blame the women around the killer, even the victim(s) themselves! It's ignorant and pathetic. Save the vitriol for the murderer.
They need a lot more videos showing how this crap can be prevented. Enough is already done on how the girl grew up and what college the guy went to and all this stuff, but they need to focus on how better safety measures could have been implemented to prevent this from ever happening
Alcohol and having too much to drink have put *MANY* women of all ages into situations involving sexual assault and/or murders - don't drink too much when you go out partying so you can be more aware of your surroundings and that "sixth sense" intuition of a situation or person being risky remains intact. And unfortunately a woman, regardless of age, walking alone at night, even if it is just 7PM but especially in the late-night hours, is also especially risky, even if she is walking within a college campus or the parking lot of her own apartment. Most parents now know how to teach their young children not to trust strangers, but that same teaching should be continued especially for women for their entire life. Yes, it's sad to say this, but strangers approaching women in public places in order to rape or kill them has been going on for many centuries long before Ted Bundy made it more famous. You do not have to treat every strange man as a potential murderer, but you also cannot be too trusting of any male stranger that approaches a woman or hands a woman a drink that could be potentially drugged. And just as people no longer stand by the side of a road and hitchhike like people often did in the 1950s through the 1970s, any woman working as an escort/prostitute or takes up an offer by a stranger to do a modeling photography session also eventually may regret their decision. Crimes involving husbands/boyfriends killing their partners are harder to prevent, but women drinking a lot of alcohol and either being alone, separating from their friends to mingle with strangers, or separating from friends to be alone do end up being the targets of predatory males unfortunately. Note that I am *NOT* victim-blaming or victim-shaming, but your "how this crap can be prevented" does point a big ugly finger at drinking too much, trusting too many strangers, and a huge dose of common sense (e.g. don't walk alone at night if you are a woman of any age). Men also get into lots of trouble by drinking heavily, but women have far more risks once they become drunk.
The stalker had a previous history of assault (involving his own grandmother and a 2×4). Intuition is important and has saved me many times! But these monsters also shouldn't be let out just to reoffend. It's not okay
You are 1000% victim blaming. They asked how to prevent this crime from happening and you gave advice as to how to prevent it from happening them. At the end of the day, "let another girl be the victim instead" is not a solution. It should be noted that only 12% of female victim homicides are committed by a stranger. A women is safer drinking at a bar then she is arguing with with a partner at home. 15% of women killed by an intimate partner are pregnant. They are very likely not getting drunk at the bar around the time that are killed. It should also be noted that in a stranger assault, it's the male perpetrator's alcohol consumption that increases the likelihood of violence against women, not the female victim's. A woman's alcohol consumption is a predictor of violence in intimate and acquaintance assaults. Preventing violent attacks on women means preventing men from commiting them entirely, not just making them choose a different victim.
@@anniesmith5953 Wow, first of all, calm down. R-E-L-A-X. First of all, you spout statistics about women drinking at a bar being safer than violence from a partner. II also commented: "Crimes involving husbands/boyfriends killing their partners are harder to prevent." I have a very good friend who got her Masters in Public Health (MPH) and her thesis was on intimate partner violence (IPV) and she previously managed various DV programs in the Seattle/Tacoma area, so none of what you said is surprising. I believe the open-ended question was "how better safety measures could have been implemented to prevent this from ever happening"". The fact remains that men commit the vast majority of violence, both against other men and there is, has been, and will always be far more men-against-women violence than women-against-men-or-women violence. This will always be true on all continents (unlike mass shootings which are nearly always American), and not just for humans, but in many species of the entire animal kingdom (except for preying mantis and some spider species where the female kills the male), the male often commits various predatory actions against the female (e.g. with many big cats in Africa, the male may resort to extreme violence if the female resists mating attempts). Testosterone encourages the brain to act with aggression or violence while serotonin and cortisol counteract testosterone's aggression promoter in humans and all animals. Your last sentence of "Preventing violent attacks on women means preventing men from commiting them entirely, not just making them choose a different victim." is *HUGELY* an idealistic vision of a perfect world. Testosterone does ingrain aggressive behaviors in male humans and all male mammals. So to prevent men from predatory acts against women *entirely* may require emasculating *ALL* men at birth across multiple generations along with weekly doses of serotonin given to all men. And no IPV can happen in the presence of boys since a boy who sees his mother being abused by a husband or boyfriend is more than 10 times likely to commit IPV or violence against women themselves. We are far more likely to prevent mass shootings in the U.S. than trying to prevent men from sexually assaulting or killing women (either IPV or stranger violence). And I don't see the mass shooting problem being fixed in our lifetimes, so violence against women will also not be "entirely prevented" in this millennium. We can all idealize on how rigorous mental health monitoring of everyone will stop mass shootings in the U.S. and violence against women around the world, and how if everyone is taught proper morals and ethics as a child, no crimes will ever happen. And we can idealize that if every man and woman arms themselves with a concealed pistol, that would stop all mass shootings and violence against women. But the ugly reality is that it is nearly impossible to prevent criminals from committing crimes, *WITHOUT* getting into the gun control debate in the U.S., so society's only hope is to find ways to avoid being a victim. That is not victim blaming, but that is reality. In utopia, women have equal rights and equal safety as men, and men never have evil thoughts, but we will *NEVER* approach a utopian society. In fact, we are deviating farther and farther away from utopian ideals.
As someone who survived molestation and attempted rape as a preteen/teen, I do not blame her for wanting her father dead. The fact that her family didn't believe her is disgusting but not uncommon. My own mother didn't believe me that my stepfather was molesting me from the age of 12 up until I was 14 and then attempted to rape me a month before I turned 15.
I’d be willing to bet this sick monster is responsible for the death of Lauren Spear, how disturbing these cases are:…..just innocent college girls minding their business and in a flash their lives are taken from them by this POS. RIP to both of these beautiful young women, and my heart goes out to both families.
I live in Bolingbrook and he was in the local bar when I went in one night and talking about how he was well known now. Laughing about it. I looked at him at just said. "Why aren't you looking for Stacy? Because you know she is gone and you sit here celebrating how this has made you famous? I refuse to stay here with him." I turned and walked out. I am disgusted and ashamed that he lived in Bolingbrook. Nothing really ever happens here. I mean yes, it does, but this is sick.
Y? People out together live separately anyway so that’s how you get to your destination, stranger murders are rare anyway. You’re more likely to get killed by the friend than the Uber driver
she’s a grieving mother and is fully aware that it’s just selfish wishing. so many of you are giving her such a hard time for wishing it had been someone else rather than her daughter. she KNOWS it’s wrong. you need to walk in her shoes to be able to understand the loss of a child and how grieving affects the way you think and express yourself.
Please, she can say don't do it to anyone. Why other daughter. No needing. Only selfish people say that. I lose 3 siblings and never wishes someone else.
Exactly it's literally one of the stages of grief. Negotiation - take me, take someone else, anyone but them. The amount of people that don't get that is so annoying.
Or imagine it. My grandma and her sister (great grand aunt) both lost their oldest sons in a tragic way years apart. They never were the same after that and the best way to describe it is, apart of them died too.
What? Shame on who? And why? People are going to party… esp in college. Police can’t be everywhere… a first line defense might be to not get intoxicated and wander around alone… it is def a vulnerable place to be…. I don’t the the poster meant anything insidious …. Daft muppet… I think they likely meant that there may be safety in numbers… 🤨
"Why didn't you take someone else's daughter that night???" I cannot believe that woman actually said that out loud..... Really rubbed me the wrong way
@@P8_P8 No but I lost my husband to suicide and I didn't wish some "other" wife would suffer instead of me..... You are clearly too self centered and dense to understand that her (and you statement) is immature and egocentric.. She is an ugly, selfish person. I've been watching these stores nonstop for 25 years and NEVER not once did I ever hear a mother make such a disgusting statement.... Sorry not sorry... Her daughter is better off in heaven than on earth with this weirdo
When I was the victim of an assault by a random stranger on the year I had lost my virginity, the first thing that I thought was: “why me???” I’ve done EVERYTHING right and my crazy sister has not!” My sister was the ‘free-spirit’ so to speak. I was the one who kept herself till age 22 to the one I thought I’d be in love with forever, and mere months later assaulted. I was the Christian one, the one who gave my mom no grief, the one who had been physically and mentally abused by our grandma, the one whose dog was squished when he got too excited that I was home by the very school bus I was inside of. I felt the squish. My assault happened quite early on a Sunday evening as I went to use a pay phone (2002) as my roommate refused to let me make an urgent phone call. I had just gotten back from church. Basically, all the bad stuff would always happen to me no matter what I did right. And I never wondered why? Not until that day... I was angry, confused, grieving. Only years down the line, did I understand that none of that mattered. My self-righteous ‘goody-two-shoes’ should not be rewarded or get special treatment in that manner. What needs to happen in our lives is almost more about a combination of luck and purpose, than “God’s grace” instead. Many years of therapy and actual positive things coming out of that event, would shape me into what I am today. So, I went from victim to survivor. I ended up working in the courts. Particularly, inside the same building where my case was decided, had switched from criminal court, to civil. As civil servant when it came time for me to be hired, they asked which court I would prefer in numerical number type preference. My last preference was the Bronx as after having lived there many years in the past, I now lived in Brooklyn, had children, and the fact that I had never returned to the BX after my assault due to my PTSD. Yet, it was exactly where I was assigned. Now back in the same building (w an awesome salary and benefits) totally empowered and much stronger than ever. I was able to yet again, face my fear. Further, my sister turned her life around as it turned out that she had the exact thoughts after my assault. She felt guilty as she also thought: “WHY HER AND NOT ME???” She’s the ‘good one!’ Anyway, we all learned to listen to women and not judge one another. We understand that we should not compare with others. But, that takes time. That takes healing. I understand exactly what and why that mom felt. And in the end, she understood why. Had it not been for her daughter’s struggle (she fought for her life) other victims’ families may have never gotten closure. Same as my case. Of the three victims of that serial rapist, it was me that the jury believed. BECAUSE, I was a ‘good girl.’ 😂 Super awesome as I was the one to put him in jail 25-life. He died in prison. He had full blown aids and no one understood why I wasn’t infected. Turns out my autoimmune disorder diagnosed 4 years after by assault, may have been what spared me as some folks like myself may have immunity to such. We must not judge others so easily. @gr8fulgirl88
And this is one of my worst fears. I have a 16yr old daughter planning for college and I'm terrified of all the danger, predators, things that can go horribly wrong on campus or off campus. The amount of crimes that colleges cover up scares me. I let my kids watch these shows so they are aware of what happens in this ugly world. So sorry for the victims and families.
It is really baffling that Peterson was not charged with murdering his third wife before his fourth went missing. Statistically, people very rarely die in bathtub accidents, and the timing makes it all the more suspicious. Were the detectives protecting their own?
Guys she was effing 17 when the 4th wife married him. SHE LOOKED LIKE HIS GRANDDAUGHTER WTACTUALF. How did they get married or into a relationship wtfffffff. Wtff I still don't get it, what did everyone think was going to happen!!
To anyone that has a problem with what Hannah's mom said, just be thankful that you don't know that level of pain and grief that would have her asking a question like that. She even said it's selfish and she completely broke down even saying it. Grief makes you think, say and do things that you otherwise would never even think about. You realize how awful those thoughts are and you hate that they even pop into your head. I can't even allow myself to imagine the pain of having my child taken from me at all, let alone at the hands of someone else. I am so sorry that she has to actually live with that as a reality. I can't be upset with a mother who wishes it wasn't her child.
No, you do not say something like that on national television and think it’s okay. Why would she wish that on someone else’s child? Stop making excuses for people. She’s a victim but she’s still wrong for saying that, point blank
Drew went on a local radio show, The Mancow Show, and said he wanted to make a confession. He then confessed that some local BBQ place had the best food and then laughed. The place he was talking about was owned by his lawyer too.
Stacy admits to the pastor that she knew he killed Kathleen...Really makes me wonder if she knew beforehand or had something to do with it. I mean, they were together while he was still married to her and at the time of Kathleens murder. She was his alibi after all..
There is no way that a women just leaves her children for another man like Drew says. She was dedicated to her children and well as his children. He KILLED Stacy and hid her body somewhere. I would bet my life on it!
@belltowndaisywe are not talking about Mexico third World Country. We are talking About a first World Country Police Sergeant who happens to be a sociopath. I know . I married one and you can have him .
I believe the jury got the verdict right in the murder of Drew Peterson's third wife, and I also believe that there will be justice for Stacy Peterson. His lawyer, is a snake in the grass.
That’s what kills me the most, his lawyer knows where Stacey is but he uses attorney client privilege to protect himself and Drew. The night that John Gacy was arrested his attorney said fuck that privilege and called the police. It’s about being a human being above ethics and policy.
"They were both consuming alcohol..." As if that gave anyone permission, ever. Adults do, in fact, consume alcohol. End of story. If you must discuss alcohol and drugs, why not on the predators' end?
A good idea to women across the US, raise your sons with kindness and teach them to treat women with respect.I feel so much is wrong with this country, all the way down to basic stuff as proper streetlights!
There will always be sickos. Continued education and safety to prevent this. And also better safety on college campuses. And police need to take complaints more seriously. And this is from my own experience.
I hit rewind just to hear her laugh again… that’s really heartbreaking. What an infectious laugh. That reminds me of me, except the ONLY person that can make me laugh like that is my dad.
Out of all the things that people are commenting, the thing that bothers me the most is that they keep showing this poor girls body over and over and over again. Also, NEVER let your friend go home alone. ESPECIALLY if they've been drinking or are vulnerable in anyway. Male or female, LOOK OUT FOR EACHOTHER. My friend was going to take a Lyft home tonight and she had been drinking and was obviously tipsy. My fiance and I brought her home. And I personally helped her down the steps at the bar and up the steps and into her house. I would never have wanted her to go home alone in a Lyft in that condition.
I've been fighting with Town council where I live about street lights. I'm a runner and I've had to cut my running back because I can't do it. It's way too dark. I live in a very rural area but the population is growing so rapidly that if you don't do something about simple things like street lights then crime comes and pushes out all the good people. I've seen it happen so many times. Sometimes people don't realize how important street lights are until it's too late. I was told to talk to every town council member and I have. All they tell me is that they have plans to get better street lights. It's very serious. We are paying taxes and trusting our cities and towns to use the money to protect us above all else. We can worry about the cosmetic things after we have a safe place to live. To the mother, don't listen to these haters. As a mother I understand why you're saying what you're saying. You're just being figurative and you even said that you know it's selfish so it's not like you're a heartless person. I would suspect that as soon as she got into her house she may be dropped her cell phone or bag oomething and turned around to grab it. I don't know but it could be. Haha! Dude left his phone! I bet he was obsessed wondering where that fell and he couldn't go back to look for it. Bravo to the police officers that did their job and stayed on it from the very beginning. I watch a lot of true crime and there are multiple cases for the police officers didn't even try. Evidence was right in front of their face like a cell phone and they didn't even try. Excellent police work work. Thank you!
..I totally agree..I've said it a hundred times " deceased" is much more respectful,I think it's an American thing" I know in England they use the word " deceased"
The pastor should have put Stacy in a safe house until Drew was behind bars. When someone is unsafe and in danger act soon. Im glad that the pastor finally said something.
I see alot of ppl in the comment talk about how she wished it was anyones daughter but hers...i feel that...when you are going through the stages of grief some times you say be saying stuff make yourself feel better. I relate to this as an orphan...i see ppl who have families but dont care for them...alot of ppl tke the simplist things from granted but those are the things that make you love someone and nothing cant replace that hole in your heart.
I don’t know that it is that cut and dry. If your father ask you to do a favor for him that doesn’t mean you’re complicit in everything every crime committed still very respectable in my eyes. Made a mistake, but Has been responsible in a lot of other ways….
It did not say in any way he was complicit in his dads crimes. Moron. And if you researched the case, you'd find much more to the story than that shitty one liner. Do your research!!
@@The_Crusty_Old_Hag_Next_Door Clearly you do. Do you know the family? Friends? Probably not. You only hear what the media puts out and you know how that goes.
The first story of this episode, I think it was in really bad taste to have her mother in here. To put her through what obviously is traumatizing her greatly. They should have had another relative on. Mom needs a bubble bath, rest and a lot of family and friends around her.
She was on there because she wanted to. No one twisted her arm or pulled a gun to her head to do it. Evidently you don't know how this stuff works for shows. She could have declined on anything.
The insane part is that phone that landed below hannahs feet/shoes ! She wanted her killer caught !😢 very devastating this is tragic and NO one deserves this at all 😢😢 RIP HANNAH
Yeah agreed! That’s a terrible comment to make! I know she’s grieving her daughter butttt!! There’s no excuse to wish this horrific incident to happen to ANYONE
Why didn’t you take someone’s else’s daughter ? People please be careful of this type of thinking this is critical mistake that we make as humans and it leads to Devastation !!!
I took it to mean she was hoping her daughter was still alive and it was someone who kind of looked like her daughter. While it would mean tragedy for another family, it would give her hope of her daughter coming home one day.
The comments lead me to believe what a horrible thing to say but in context, I decided differently. Yes it's hard to hear but I think her point was this is how awful she hurts that she would even think this. Just my opinion after watching the episode. ❤
Absolutely, people should not try to push their grief and loss onto others. I understand that they wish it didn't happen to their lives one. However, the wording was inappropriate. Saying that you wish it was someone else's loved one will come back to bite them on the ass. You can't put that out there if you believe in karma. I do feel sad for them. I personally would not wish that kind of loss on anyone!! 💔
The woman was grieving, so I can understand her statement. No one wants to have a murdered or missing family member. Sometimes you say things you don't mean. I wouldn't want anyone in my family murdered/killed/missing like this. Sometimes you say things you don't mean your words in this type of situation.
No, no, no,no…….I will never understand why these young woman always go home alone, be it in a cab or Uber or walking. We must teach them, being anywhere alone at night is a BIG NO, NO ! It happens everywhere, your area is no different to any other area where these crimes take place. This taxi driver was given money to take her home ~~ not a block or two away from her home, but to her home ! He should be answerable to someone. However her friends who thought they were doing the right thing, should have gone home with her or she should have stayed at someone’s home with them. It doesn’t matter if you ‘have work’ the next morning or another appointment, so,you are late or you can’t make it ~~ nothing is too important that you are alone at night. It just shouldn’t happen. We have all been inconvenienced by kids that need a lift home in the wee hours of the morning, it’s just something we do, as parents or friends. Ladies, we have to be more diligent in an effort to stay safe. No one can be trusted, it’s a simple as that ! My condolences to Hannah’s family and friends. xoxox
sometimes we have have no choice unfortunately, we don't want to risk a taxi or we have no one to take us home if we have a car. i hate walking alone but what I do now i have a personal safety app called hollyapp it alerts close friends where i am and if I am man down or have an incident. they can call police too. i also wear a bodycam but it is amazing how no women ask about the bodycam but men do, women would rather be fashionable and not use a bodycam but i dont care about female fashion which is anti female safety but i will wear it.
If drew was out despise all these suspicious events, he would have fallen into another woman's loving arms. Some people cant be helped no matter how black and white the situations are.
I wonder if these young girls watch shows like this and see how many of their peers are killed because they were pis*ing drunk late at night in town. I am absolutely not blaming the victim, but they are putting themselves in very risky situations. I feel terrible for her mom.
That man was NOT a cop gone bad. He was a horrible man who happened to be employed by a force that applauds abuse and murder. He got away with his crimes for a while because he was a cop.
I think Drew is responsible for both wives deaths, but im surprised that Drew didnt say that the hit on the states attorney is because of temporary insanity due to being falsely incarcerated.
I get it that the mother is grieving her daughters death, but to say ' why couldn't you have taken someone else's daughter?' is disturbing - more disturbing is that the producers put it in the piece! My condolences to all the victims & their families. May they all get justice!
Agreed, it was wrong for them to air that to the world. Makes her look bad and she doesn't need any more pain. It was a terrible thing to think, nevermind say but she needs a break. It was a mistake and I'm sure she's ashamed of it now.
He was allowed to go this from the failure of the Police. There cannot be that many women coming forward without at least of them having reported this man already.
So sadly, that she just did not went in and locked her door. If that may happend, maybe she would be alive by now. Anyway got to love her mother, you could see that she is a really good parent.
Drew Peterson was NOT a cop gone bad, he's a BAD GUY GONE COP. Unfortunately, not the first, and not the last. Police hiring needs to be more meticulous, people who are issued weapons ane badges, better investigated veted.
When I hear Drew P screaming at the top of his lungs that he "didn't kill Cathleen", it shows what his wives had to live with. Kinda makes the hair stand up on the back of the neck.
Narcissitic people think they can just do what they want. And there are way to many of them in this world. His acctions no remorse not any worry he lost these women is a very mental and socciopathic narc behaviour. He could care less other than defending he did nothing. That creep Lawyer is a narc too. yuck
It’s not selfish to wish someone else, some stranger, was in your loved ones place! I can’t imagine your pain and how often, how deeply you wish things to be different.
I was a college girl myself, once, in much safer times. The sense of being safe seems to be a mindset of the young, unfortunately. Endless numbers of young women are raped or murdered because of too much alcohol or drugs and having assumed one is safe when one heads out to party. True Crime should start mentioning failures in the paths to these deaths as failures. 1)Female celebrates by overindulging. 2)Her friends load her in a cab, unaccompanied, when they know she is out of control, 3)Her roommate hears the door open, but not close, but never checks......girl found dead. Three events listed that if checked, might have saved a life. Had the student not gotten smashed, she would not have died. The fourth one....The damn leftist judicial system needs to stop putting predators back on the streets!
Young people really need to be careful at all time. I lived in a college dorm in the early 2000s. we never went anywhere alone and always went together in pairs or more. ladies, never go alone anywhere or send your friends alone, especially when alcohol or other drugs are involved.
I worked for a retired police officer and he was working for the company I was working for and he said .....if there is no recording ( like the pastor and Stacy had ) that is just plain hearsay. That should immediately have been stopped from being out there. I am shaming the pastor sharing that, don't trust this guy. Hope he records everything because one day he might be accused by a woman that says he made advancement towards her and it will be her word against his words. He will lose those charges.
There's an exception to hearsay ruling. I suspect the pastor's testimony would fall into these qualifiers. I'm not sure, but I THINK pastors (acting in counselor compacity) are bound to similar guidelines as therapists /psychiatrist. It varies but per APA Ethical Principles, there are Duty To Protect/Warn Laws, which trumps confidentiality.
No shame on you for saying that. And they have every right to report stuff like that if someone has said what that lady had said. And some people like her may not want to be recorded knowingly and he probably didn't think to use his fun in disguise to record. You never down someone about that situation. What if that happened to you. Would you want anyone of us say that about you?
If a friend has had a drink too much and not fit to go home and you really care, for safety reasons, either you personally take the friend home or let the friend sleep over. Don't send the friend off in a taxi.
My deepest condolences to you and your family and friends and her friends until you are reunited once again with your beautiful daughter in heaven🙏🙏🙏🙏♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️
Drew Peterson was a pathetic excuse for a man husband or police officer and father
Why wasn’t this guy charged with assaulting a minor whether they were dating or not she was 16 years old when he was almost 40 years old sadly he knew how to groom a minor just like a peudophile would do to his victim he might have been good looking but it would be a huge red flag for me if I were her family or friends
Great advice.
Women have been assaulted by taxi drivers.
Waking up being rxped in the backseat. Absolutely terrifying and disgusting but it happens.
Or by any other way by themselves.
It’s scary to think of how many predators are out there looking for vulnerable people.
And how most of then are men who play nice
very true. i have refused lifts from lone men and even couples@@niamphdollieofficial
@@niamphdollieofficialAre you sure about that? Better check again!!! 😂 Women just like to poison people more than men. Tons more females that never get caught. You are also forgetting about kids that kill
26:26 that female was in on it
@@niamphdollieofficial26:26 she was in on it and or did one of them and or helped! Why would she keep staying around him and end up moving in with him ? Oh yea, she had something to do with it
Indiana resident here -
Jill Behrman’s brother was my sixth grade homeroom teacher, and he had a photo of her on his desk. It had been over ten years since she had disappeared, and he teared up every time he spoke about her. Even a class full of rowdy middle schoolers went silent and solemn. Such a heartbreaking story, as well as Lauren. I never even considered going to Bloomington for college, and it seems I still won’t. Rest easy, girls. ❤ You’re missed dearly, and are not forgotten.
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I don’t think it should be considered a coincidence that two murdered women went to the same bar before being killed.
Coincidences aren't real.
@@dontworryaboutit4255But they are…maybe not in this case.
@@Tricethelibra In order to claim coincidences are real, you have to also doubt the power and reasoning of God. Now, I know I don't know everything God does, nor will I EVER know all of His reasons for everything He does. Therefore, there's no such thing as a coincidence. I cannot doubt God just because I don't understand why/how He does everything He does.
However, you do have your own freewill. I'm not saying that you have to or even need to believe what I do and I'm not trying to change your mind, either.
But I don't doubt God and His power 🙏
Kilroys is an extremely popular bar … everyone at IU goes to that bar.
Your daughter is no less than a HERO!!! Because of her fighting back, she saved who knows how many women’s lives! Clearly, she was a remarkable and strong woman. I’m sure she takes after her mother!!!God bless and strengthen you!
@@ultimatums1so?! Does that mean she deserves to die? You’re slow.
What does that mean? She still fought him and cased him to drop his phone which saved many young women
A woman being intoxicated doesn't " put herself in that situation " it doesn't give a man a pass to tske advantage of her. Not to mention she was home! He is a predator, and most likely a serial killer.
@@nataliencube9937where at did this person say she deserved to die? Apparently you have comprehension issues and need some skills to remedy that.
If she stay home and work on her class assignments and not drinking then she would not be in the wrong place.
That poor, sweet mama. My heart hurts for her.
I can feel the pain and grief felt by Hannah's mum. It must be the worst spot to be in life
He sure collected those women as if they were trophies. Really sad and for him to be walking around with a smirk and his lawyer saying they would get him out of a jail is unbelievable. Hope he rots in jail
Never saw anyone so arrogant.
Who let's someone out that beats their helpless grandmother with a 2×4!?!!? Yeah, he seems safe for the public 😒
So he clearly has a penchant for assaulting women. It was a hate crime and should be considered such.
Karma coming
A society dictated by men
my granny couldn't multiply either but I was never arrested for that matter beat down
For goodness sake she’s a grieving mum. I’m certain she would never mean that. I’ve said things I regret when I’ve realised I’ve a said something I didn’t mean. I’m sure I’m not the only one here. At the end she said thank god he’s off the streets to hurt any other innocent girl.
You are not the only one. I have said things and instantly, regretted it.
Yes I would say something like I wish this never happened. But I would not even think to say I wish he took someone else’s daughter. That would never cross my mind. So it is weird that she said it that way
Any grieving mother would think that. That's if she's being honest. People have to be fake to avoid judgemental people. I love my daughter, I would have said the same thing.
We are HUMAN ❤
The people jumping all over her for one thoughtless sentence are happily displaying their own misogyny. It's common in murder cases: certain people try to blame the women around the killer, even the victim(s) themselves! It's ignorant and pathetic.
Save the vitriol for the murderer.
They need a lot more videos showing how this crap can be prevented. Enough is already done on how the girl grew up and what college the guy went to and all this stuff, but they need to focus on how better safety measures could have been implemented to prevent this from ever happening
Alcohol and having too much to drink have put *MANY* women of all ages into situations involving sexual assault and/or murders - don't drink too much when you go out partying so you can be more aware of your surroundings and that "sixth sense" intuition of a situation or person being risky remains intact. And unfortunately a woman, regardless of age, walking alone at night, even if it is just 7PM but especially in the late-night hours, is also especially risky, even if she is walking within a college campus or the parking lot of her own apartment. Most parents now know how to teach their young children not to trust strangers, but that same teaching should be continued especially for women for their entire life. Yes, it's sad to say this, but strangers approaching women in public places in order to rape or kill them has been going on for many centuries long before Ted Bundy made it more famous. You do not have to treat every strange man as a potential murderer, but you also cannot be too trusting of any male stranger that approaches a woman or hands a woman a drink that could be potentially drugged.
And just as people no longer stand by the side of a road and hitchhike like people often did in the 1950s through the 1970s, any woman working as an escort/prostitute or takes up an offer by a stranger to do a modeling photography session also eventually may regret their decision. Crimes involving husbands/boyfriends killing their partners are harder to prevent, but women drinking a lot of alcohol and either being alone, separating from their friends to mingle with strangers, or separating from friends to be alone do end up being the targets of predatory males unfortunately.
Note that I am *NOT* victim-blaming or victim-shaming, but your "how this crap can be prevented" does point a big ugly finger at drinking too much, trusting too many strangers, and a huge dose of common sense (e.g. don't walk alone at night if you are a woman of any age). Men also get into lots of trouble by drinking heavily, but women have far more risks once they become drunk.
The stalker had a previous history of assault (involving his own grandmother and a 2×4). Intuition is important and has saved me many times! But these monsters also shouldn't be let out just to reoffend. It's not okay
You are 1000% victim blaming.
They asked how to prevent this crime from happening and you gave advice as to how to prevent it from happening them. At the end of the day, "let another girl be the victim instead" is not a solution.
It should be noted that only 12% of female victim homicides are committed by a stranger. A women is safer drinking at a bar then she is arguing with with a partner at home. 15% of women killed by an intimate partner are pregnant. They are very likely not getting drunk at the bar around the time that are killed.
It should also be noted that in a stranger assault, it's the male perpetrator's alcohol consumption that increases the likelihood of violence against women, not the female victim's. A woman's alcohol consumption is a predictor of violence in intimate and acquaintance assaults.
Preventing violent attacks on women means preventing men from commiting them entirely, not just making them choose a different victim.
Young women…Please don’t do high risk things..like hanging out in bars .
@@anniesmith5953 Wow, first of all, calm down. R-E-L-A-X. First of all, you spout statistics about women drinking at a bar being safer than violence from a partner. II also commented: "Crimes involving husbands/boyfriends killing their partners are harder to prevent." I have a very good friend who got her Masters in Public Health (MPH) and her thesis was on intimate partner violence (IPV) and she previously managed various DV programs in the Seattle/Tacoma area, so none of what you said is surprising.
I believe the open-ended question was "how better safety measures could have been implemented to prevent this from ever happening"". The fact remains that men commit the vast majority of violence, both against other men and there is, has been, and will always be far more men-against-women violence than women-against-men-or-women violence. This will always be true on all continents (unlike mass shootings which are nearly always American), and not just for humans, but in many species of the entire animal kingdom (except for preying mantis and some spider species where the female kills the male), the male often commits various predatory actions against the female (e.g. with many big cats in Africa, the male may resort to extreme violence if the female resists mating attempts).
Testosterone encourages the brain to act with aggression or violence while serotonin and cortisol counteract testosterone's aggression promoter in humans and all animals.
Your last sentence of "Preventing violent attacks on women means preventing men from commiting them entirely, not just making them choose a different victim." is *HUGELY* an idealistic vision of a perfect world. Testosterone does ingrain aggressive behaviors in male humans and all male mammals. So to prevent men from predatory acts against women *entirely* may require emasculating *ALL* men at birth across multiple generations along with weekly doses of serotonin given to all men. And no IPV can happen in the presence of boys since a boy who sees his mother being abused by a husband or boyfriend is more than 10 times likely to commit IPV or violence against women themselves.
We are far more likely to prevent mass shootings in the U.S. than trying to prevent men from sexually assaulting or killing women (either IPV or stranger violence). And I don't see the mass shooting problem being fixed in our lifetimes, so violence against women will also not be "entirely prevented" in this millennium.
We can all idealize on how rigorous mental health monitoring of everyone will stop mass shootings in the U.S. and violence against women around the world, and how if everyone is taught proper morals and ethics as a child, no crimes will ever happen. And we can idealize that if every man and woman arms themselves with a concealed pistol, that would stop all mass shootings and violence against women. But the ugly reality is that it is nearly impossible to prevent criminals from committing crimes, *WITHOUT* getting into the gun control debate in the U.S., so society's only hope is to find ways to avoid being a victim. That is not victim blaming, but that is reality. In utopia, women have equal rights and equal safety as men, and men never have evil thoughts, but we will *NEVER* approach a utopian society. In fact, we are deviating farther and farther away from utopian ideals.
I’m so very sorry for your loss. My condolences to your family. May God bless and keep you all forever!
As someone who survived molestation and attempted rape as a preteen/teen, I do not blame her for wanting her father dead. The fact that her family didn't believe her is disgusting but not uncommon. My own mother didn't believe me that my stepfather was molesting me from the age of 12 up until I was 14 and then attempted to rape me a month before I turned 15.
I'm so sorry beautiful dont let that stop you from feeling beautiful and living an amazing life you deserve it ❤
So sorryx when does the daughter say that? I can’t find it
I’d be willing to bet this sick monster is responsible for the death of Lauren Spear, how disturbing these cases are:…..just innocent college girls minding their business and in a flash their lives are taken from them by this POS. RIP to both of these beautiful young women, and my heart goes out to both families.
Amen
I live in Bolingbrook and he was in the local bar when I went in one night and talking about how he was well known now. Laughing about it. I looked at him at just said. "Why aren't you looking for Stacy? Because you know she is gone and you sit here celebrating how this has made you famous? I refuse to stay here with him." I turned and walked out. I am disgusted and ashamed that he lived in Bolingbrook. Nothing really ever happens here. I mean yes, it does, but this is sick.
I don't understand how anyone can send a drunk friend home alone in a cab or Uber.
Yeah that is wild. If it was a guy that’s understandable but you never send a female home alone when she’s drunk with a stranger
So how would you expect them to get home? TY.
But she made it home safe, that's what happens when you are to drunk to think straight
Y? People out together live separately anyway so that’s how you get to your destination, stranger murders are rare anyway. You’re more likely to get killed by the friend than the Uber driver
@@normn2915Victim blaming & justifying murder: 👎👎
she’s a grieving mother and is fully aware that it’s just selfish wishing. so many of you are giving her such a hard time for wishing it had been someone else rather than her daughter. she KNOWS it’s wrong. you need to walk in her shoes to be able to understand the loss of a child and how grieving affects the way you think and express yourself.
Please, she can say don't do it to anyone. Why other daughter. No needing. Only selfish people say that. I lose 3 siblings and never wishes someone else.
Exactly it's literally one of the stages of grief. Negotiation - take me, take someone else, anyone but them. The amount of people that don't get that is so annoying.
@@JillyMae89 annoying, what the f you talk about?! Why other people but not herself. A real good mom would say why my daughter. Take me..
@@Travelsissy agree... awful thing for her to say
Or imagine it. My grandma and her sister (great grand aunt) both lost their oldest sons in a tragic way years apart. They never were the same after that and the best way to describe it is, apart of them died too.
You should never get drunk and be alone. Have at least friends with you. Too many predators roaming around looking for prey.
Not more cops, stiffer laws, but tell good people to change their lives. Shame on you.
Maybe predators should stop being predators? People should be able to drink alone in their home all they want. Stop the victim blaming
What? Shame on who? And why? People are going to party… esp in college. Police can’t be everywhere… a first line defense might be to not get intoxicated and wander around alone… it is def a vulnerable place to be…. I don’t the the poster meant anything insidious …. Daft muppet… I think they likely meant that there may be safety in numbers… 🤨
@@theoryofpersonality1420 Shame in you for your pathetic and immature comment .
Don’t get drunk at all
"Why didn't you take someone else's daughter that night???" I cannot believe that woman actually said that out loud..... Really rubbed me the wrong way
I thought the same thing, not nice at all. but in her despair she probably didn't realize what that meant.
You obviously haven’t felt the pain of a child being stolen from you. She said she knew it was selfish. She was just being candid
@@P8_P8 No but I lost my husband to suicide and I didn't wish some "other" wife would suffer instead of me..... You are clearly too self centered and dense to understand that her (and you statement) is immature and egocentric.. She is an ugly, selfish person. I've been watching these stores nonstop for 25 years and NEVER not once did I ever hear a mother make such a disgusting statement.... Sorry not sorry... Her daughter is better off in heaven than on earth with this weirdo
When I was the victim of an assault by a random stranger on the year I had lost my virginity, the first thing that I thought was: “why me???” I’ve done EVERYTHING right and my crazy sister has not!” My sister was the ‘free-spirit’ so to speak. I was the one who kept herself till age 22 to the one I thought I’d be in love with forever, and mere months later assaulted. I was the Christian one, the one who gave my mom no grief, the one who had been physically and mentally abused by our grandma, the one whose dog was squished when he got too excited that I was home by the very school bus I was inside of. I felt the squish. My assault happened quite early on a Sunday evening as I went to use a pay phone (2002) as my roommate refused to let me make an urgent phone call. I had just gotten back from church. Basically, all the bad stuff would always happen to me no matter what I did right. And I never wondered why? Not until that day... I was angry, confused, grieving. Only years down the line, did I understand that none of that mattered. My self-righteous ‘goody-two-shoes’ should not be rewarded or get special treatment in that manner. What needs to happen in our lives is almost more about a combination of luck and purpose, than “God’s grace” instead. Many years of therapy and actual positive things coming out of that event, would shape me into what I am today. So, I went from victim to survivor. I ended up working in the courts. Particularly, inside the same building where my case was decided, had switched from criminal court, to civil. As civil servant when it came time for me to be hired, they asked which court I would prefer in numerical number type preference. My last preference was the Bronx as after having lived there many years in the past, I now lived in Brooklyn, had children, and the fact that I had never returned to the BX after my assault due to my PTSD. Yet, it was exactly where I was assigned. Now back in the same building (w an awesome salary and benefits) totally empowered and much stronger than ever. I was able to yet again, face my fear.
Further, my sister turned her life around as it turned out that she had the exact thoughts after my assault. She felt guilty as she also thought: “WHY HER AND NOT ME???” She’s the ‘good one!’ Anyway, we all learned to listen to women and not judge one another. We understand that we should not compare with others. But, that takes time. That takes healing. I understand exactly what and why that mom felt. And in the end, she understood why. Had it not been for her daughter’s struggle (she fought for her life) other victims’ families may have never gotten closure. Same as my case. Of the three victims of that serial rapist, it was me that the jury believed. BECAUSE, I was a ‘good girl.’ 😂 Super awesome as I was the one to put him in jail 25-life. He died in prison. He had full blown aids and no one understood why I wasn’t infected. Turns out my autoimmune disorder diagnosed 4 years after by assault, may have been what spared me as some folks like myself may have immunity to such. We must not judge others so easily.
@gr8fulgirl88
I was about to comment,about that.What a horrible thing,for a mother,to wish that on someone else’s daughter.Shocking.
And this is one of my worst fears. I have a 16yr old daughter planning for college and I'm terrified of all the danger, predators, things that can go horribly wrong on campus or off campus. The amount of crimes that colleges cover up scares me. I let my kids watch these shows so they are aware of what happens in this ugly world. So sorry for the victims and families.
It is really baffling that Peterson was not charged with murdering his third wife before his fourth went missing. Statistically, people very rarely die in bathtub accidents, and the timing makes it all the more suspicious. Were the detectives protecting their own?
Most definitely....
Of course
Guys she was effing 17 when the 4th wife married him. SHE LOOKED LIKE HIS GRANDDAUGHTER WTACTUALF. How did they get married or into a relationship wtfffffff. Wtff I still don't get it, what did everyone think was going to happen!!
As sad as it is, i feel feel like her dying ended up preventing loads of other girls from enduring the same fate.😕
To anyone that has a problem with what Hannah's mom said, just be thankful that you don't know that level of pain and grief that would have her asking a question like that. She even said it's selfish and she completely broke down even saying it. Grief makes you think, say and do things that you otherwise would never even think about. You realize how awful those thoughts are and you hate that they even pop into your head. I can't even allow myself to imagine the pain of having my child taken from me at all, let alone at the hands of someone else. I am so sorry that she has to actually live with that as a reality. I can't be upset with a mother who wishes it wasn't her child.
Right! It’s selfish of us to tell her how to feel! Those were her feelings! I totally get it
@Gr8 you're gorgeous.
Beautifully said 😢
There is no excuse,for what she said.
@@MorrowWardWhat she said was selfish.
I have ten nieces and I count my blessings that none of them have suffered what no one would ever want to happen to someone they love.
and nephews need to be educated not to rape and attack women or other vulnerable people
Nieces*
@@beaulieuc8910 yeah im sure that worked for ted bundy
To the people attacking the mother: stop.
Bossy much
Define attack 😮
@@astrialindah2773It's called verbal attacks, which are common on social media.
No, you do not say something like that on national television and think it’s okay. Why would she wish that on someone else’s child? Stop making excuses for people. She’s a victim but she’s still wrong for saying that, point blank
@@HappyJicamaexactly!
So many beautiful girls being murdered by these evil Bastard's it's heartbreaking ! 💔🙏🏴
Don't ever ever tell them you are leaving
Drew went on a local radio show, The Mancow Show, and said he wanted to make a confession. He then confessed that some local BBQ place had the best food and then laughed. The place he was talking about was owned by his lawyer too.
It seems to me that people would live a lot longer if other people would stop killing them.
Exactly
Wise words, indeed.
Well , sociopath narcissists exist. I married an ex cop and he was just like Drew . He ruined my life at the time . I will never marry a cop again
Sherlock Holmes detected🕵️♂️
@@kathyr.8135 Uh, hun, you realize you're responding to a joke, right?
You NEVER TELL THEM YOU ARE LEAVING
Stacy admits to the pastor that she knew he killed Kathleen...Really makes me wonder if she knew beforehand or had something to do with it. I mean, they were together while he was still married to her and at the time of Kathleens murder. She was his alibi after all..
There is no way that a women just leaves her children for another man like Drew says. She was dedicated to her children and well as his children. He KILLED Stacy and hid her body somewhere. I would bet my life on it!
It dose happen though
@@supme7558then go date Drew Peterson . He is a crazy man and guaranteed to have a black eye . He’s in prison. Go. Visit him. A sociopath narcissist
@@supme7558does
@belltowndaisywe aren’t living in Mexico. This is Drew Peterson. Go look up his interviews . He a sociopath narcissist
@belltowndaisywe are not talking about Mexico third World Country. We are talking About a first World Country Police Sergeant who happens to be a sociopath. I know . I married one and you can have him .
I believe the jury got the verdict right in the murder of Drew Peterson's third wife, and I also believe that there will be justice for Stacy Peterson. His lawyer, is a snake in the grass.
That’s what kills me the most, his lawyer knows where Stacey is but he uses attorney client privilege to protect himself and Drew.
The night that John Gacy was arrested his attorney said fuck that privilege and called the police. It’s about being a human being above ethics and policy.
@@katmah78 Exactly!
Hell is weeping and gnashing of teeth
@@kathyr.8135 Satin, will lose to Jesus in the end
@@rosearellanes5648 who is Satin? the one wearing silk?
"Safer with your own" 😂 yea right. Most serial killers look like Elmer's glue.
Were all of those women who married Drew blind? He literally looks like the Cowardly Lion from The Wizard of Oz!
Hahahaha!
Power and authority ( cop)
Omg he does!!
"They were both consuming alcohol..."
As if that gave anyone permission, ever. Adults do, in fact, consume alcohol. End of story.
If you must discuss alcohol and drugs, why not on the predators' end?
A good idea to women across the US, raise your sons with kindness and teach them to treat women with respect.I feel so much is wrong with this country, all the way down to basic stuff as proper streetlights!
Unfortunately they have NO idea how to raise kids.
How about fathers doing the same?
There will always be sickos. Continued education and safety to prevent this. And also better safety on college campuses. And police need to take complaints more seriously. And this is from my own experience.
Women got to respect themselves and other women.
Cops wanted them young. The wives, I noticed, all got fat and unattractive.
I hit rewind just to hear her laugh again… that’s really heartbreaking. What an infectious laugh. That reminds me of me, except the ONLY person that can make me laugh like that is my dad.
She passed away on my birthday. Rest in peace. What a beautiful soul taken too soon.
Out of all the things that people are commenting, the thing that bothers me the most is that they keep showing this poor girls body over and over and over again.
Also, NEVER let your friend go home alone. ESPECIALLY if they've been drinking or are vulnerable in anyway. Male or female, LOOK OUT FOR EACHOTHER.
My friend was going to take a Lyft home tonight and she had been drinking and was obviously tipsy. My fiance and I brought her home. And I personally helped her down the steps at the bar and up the steps and into her house. I would never have wanted her to go home alone in a Lyft in that condition.
I am so sorry for the mom 😢😢😢!❤❤❤❤
I've been fighting with Town council where I live about street lights. I'm a runner and I've had to cut my running back because I can't do it. It's way too dark. I live in a very rural area but the population is growing so rapidly that if you don't do something about simple things like street lights then crime comes and pushes out all the good people. I've seen it happen so many times. Sometimes people don't realize how important street lights are until it's too late. I was told to talk to every town council member and I have. All they tell me is that they have plans to get better street lights. It's very serious. We are paying taxes and trusting our cities and towns to use the money to protect us above all else. We can worry about the cosmetic things after we have a safe place to live.
To the mother, don't listen to these haters. As a mother I understand why you're saying what you're saying. You're just being figurative and you even said that you know it's selfish so it's not like you're a heartless person.
I would suspect that as soon as she got into her house she may be dropped her cell phone or bag oomething and turned around to grab it. I don't know but it could be.
Haha! Dude left his phone! I bet he was obsessed wondering where that fell and he couldn't go back to look for it. Bravo to the police officers that did their job and stayed on it from the very beginning. I watch a lot of true crime and there are multiple cases for the police officers didn't even try. Evidence was right in front of their face like a cell phone and they didn't even try. Excellent police work work. Thank you!
Brave girl helped to catch a murdere. Hugs to her mom😢😢😢
Why dont they use the word " deceased"..instead of " dead"?,its so much more respectful,especially talking to parents of a " deceased" child
..I totally agree..I've said it a hundred times
" deceased" is much more respectful,I think it's an American thing"
I know in England they use the word " deceased"
The system allowed this man to exercise and abuse his authority. He took the system for granted.
Most do
The pastor should have put Stacy in a safe house until Drew was behind bars. When someone is unsafe and in danger act soon. Im glad that the pastor finally said something.
I see alot of ppl in the comment talk about how she wished it was anyones daughter but hers...i feel that...when you are going through the stages of grief some times you say be saying stuff make yourself feel better. I relate to this as an orphan...i see ppl who have families but dont care for them...alot of ppl tke the simplist things from granted but those are the things that make you love someone and nothing cant replace that hole in your heart.
I didn't know that Stephen Peterson was complicit in his dad's crimes.... I used to feel kinda sorry for him but not anymore.
I don’t know that it is that cut and dry. If your father ask you to do a favor for him that doesn’t mean you’re complicit in everything every crime committed still very respectable in my eyes. Made a mistake, but Has been responsible in a lot of other ways….
You don’t know the whole story. Didn’t say he was complicit. 🙄
It did not say in any way he was complicit in his dads crimes. Moron. And if you researched the case, you'd find much more to the story than that shitty one liner. Do your research!!
@@Melissa0817you don’t have to be Einstein to put the pieces together.
@@The_Crusty_Old_Hag_Next_Door Clearly you do. Do you know the family? Friends? Probably not. You only hear what the media puts out and you know how that goes.
The first story of this episode, I think it was in really bad taste to have her mother in here. To put her through what obviously is traumatizing her greatly. They should have had another relative on. Mom needs a bubble bath, rest and a lot of family and friends around her.
She was on there because she wanted to. No one twisted her arm or pulled a gun to her head to do it. Evidently you don't know how this stuff works for shows. She could have declined on anything.
I'm very sorry for their Losses. 🥀🥀🥀🥀 Rest In Peace 💔💔💔💔🙏🙏🙏🙏🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️ Prayers for Lauren to be found 💔💔💔🙏🙏🙏
😢 Thanks be to God that fool was caught immediately. Hannah quick thinking to get that phone was awesome. Rest well young lady.
The insane part is that phone that landed below hannahs feet/shoes ! She wanted her killer caught !😢 very devastating this is tragic and NO one deserves this at all 😢😢
RIP HANNAH
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This whole episode I thought 💭 Cassandra was a man 🥺😩but I respect 🫡 her honesty 💯and also Drew is definitely right where he needs to be!!!🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼
Yeah agreed! That’s a terrible comment to make! I know she’s grieving her daughter butttt!! There’s no excuse to wish this horrific incident to happen to ANYONE
We need to pray for our children in these evil days.
Messel does seem like a good person to investigate for open cases of this type. Cold case you're up!!!
Why didn’t you take someone’s else’s daughter ? People please be careful of this type of thinking this is critical mistake that we make as humans and it leads to
Devastation !!!
I took it to mean she was hoping her daughter was still alive and it was someone who kind of looked like her daughter. While it would mean tragedy for another family, it would give her hope of her daughter coming home one day.
The comments lead me to believe what a horrible thing to say but in context, I decided differently. Yes it's hard to hear but I think her point was this is how awful she hurts that she would even think this. Just my opinion after watching the episode. ❤
Absolutely, people should not try to push their grief and loss onto others. I understand that they wish it didn't happen to their lives one. However, the wording was inappropriate. Saying that you wish it was someone else's loved one will come back to bite them on the ass. You can't put that out there if you believe in karma. I do feel sad for them. I personally would not wish that kind of loss on anyone!! 💔
The woman was grieving, so I can understand her statement. No one wants to have a murdered or missing family member. Sometimes you say things you don't mean. I wouldn't want anyone in my family murdered/killed/missing like this. Sometimes you say things you don't mean your words in this type of situation.
For crying out loud! Stop reading into this!! It is called grief, it is called a rhetorical question, and it is called emotion!
No, no, no,no…….I will never understand why these young woman always go home alone, be it in a cab or Uber or walking. We must teach them, being anywhere alone at night is a BIG NO, NO ! It happens everywhere, your area is no different to any other area where these crimes take place. This taxi driver was given money to take her home ~~ not a block or two away from her home, but to her home ! He should be answerable to someone. However her friends who thought they were doing the right thing, should have gone home with her or she should have stayed at someone’s home with them. It doesn’t matter if you ‘have work’ the next morning or another appointment, so,you are late or you can’t make it ~~ nothing is too important that you are alone at night. It just shouldn’t happen. We have all been inconvenienced by kids that need a lift home in the wee hours of the morning, it’s just something we do, as parents or friends. Ladies, we have to be more diligent in an effort to stay safe. No one can be trusted, it’s a simple as that ! My condolences to Hannah’s family and friends. xoxox
sometimes we have have no choice unfortunately, we don't want to risk a taxi or we have no one to take us home if we have a car. i hate walking alone but what I do now i have a personal safety app called hollyapp it alerts close friends where i am and if I am man down or have an incident. they can call police too. i also wear a bodycam but it is amazing how no women ask about the bodycam but men do, women would rather be fashionable and not use a bodycam but i dont care about female fashion which is anti female safety but i will wear it.
Solidarity isn’t so solidarities among other “individuals” is it? That’s why we are allllll individuals
What you talking about Willis
Uh what
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2:50 omg, how awful of her to wish this on someone else. No one deserves such a horrible death. Yikes!
As a mother and another human being, this is INFURIATING! what a monster!!!!
If drew was out despise all these suspicious events, he would have fallen into another woman's loving arms. Some people cant be helped no matter how black and white the situations are.
I wonder if these young girls watch shows like this and see how many of their peers are killed because they were pis*ing drunk late at night in town. I am absolutely not blaming the victim, but they are putting themselves in very risky situations. I feel terrible for her mom.
They do not, unfortunately. I never did until I was older, in a bad marriage. I watched litte TV before my 50's.
I feel like they do 😢 but when they go out and get wasted drunk all thinking and common sense goes out the window 😢
Intro: "We'll find you again. We always do." Sounds like Crime Watch Daily are the stalkers.
They are. How many times they film themselves harassing people in their homes.
That man was NOT a cop gone bad. He was a horrible man who happened to be employed by a force that applauds abuse and murder. He got away with his crimes for a while because he was a cop.
I don't understand how Hannah's friends could just send her off on a cab all her by herself..drunk. Bad friends.
Bad judgement on their part.
too many people have too much trust
they were also drunk. Messel was stalking them all nite.
I’d be horrified knowing my child’s dead body was here for people to see on TH-cam. I don’t know why it was necessary to put those images in.
Nice to see hear Chris Hanson❤
The current podcast is good but I miss these shows with Chris Hansen. As far as I can tell, it ran from 2015-2020🙂
Chris Hansen has a TH-cam channel- True Blue.
I think Drew is responsible for both wives deaths, but im surprised that Drew didnt say that the hit on the states attorney is because of temporary insanity due to being falsely incarcerated.
He was nothing short of a monster
I get it that the mother is grieving her daughters death, but to say ' why couldn't you have taken someone else's daughter?' is disturbing - more disturbing is that the producers put it in the piece! My condolences to all the victims & their families. May they all get justice!
I do think they should have kindly edited it out
Agreed, it was wrong for them to air that to the world. Makes her look bad and she doesn't need any more pain. It was a terrible thing to think, nevermind say but she needs a break. It was a mistake and I'm sure she's ashamed of it now.
@@lorimiller4301it really wasn't a mistake though, it was her subconscious speaking😮
Yup shes sounds phycosis
she said it was selfish im sure it was out of grief and she doesn’t mean it!
Documents of the abuse online is a brilliant idea. Good to hear about that
He was allowed to go this from the failure of the Police. There cannot be that many women coming forward without at least of them having reported this man already.
Just imagine if this EX COP was in prison for the “dry drowning” of his 3rd wife Stacy Ann would have never met this maniac
I’m not opposed to removing balls, 1st offense one, 2nd other… 3rd hands ; hmmm, I’m on to something here…
"Heaving partying" is not only unnecessary but it too can be taken as a leading statement.
Bro, it’s WILD that they’re just repeatedly showing this dead girls body all non-chalant
I think those pictures are not real but rather a dramatization of the scene.
So sadly, that she just did not went in and locked her door. If that may happend, maybe she would be alive by now. Anyway got to love her mother, you could see that she is a really good parent.
Doors don't keep you safe. If someone wants you that door isn't going to help you.
I believe if I would have locked the door 3 years ago, my trust wouldn't have been broken. ( not murder related)
To those who are critix
Prayers for these heartbroken families, and for Answers, and Justice.🥀🥀🥀🥀💔💔💔💔🙏🙏🙏🙏🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️
Evil man 😢. Capital punishment should be given . Maniac
Drew Peterson was NOT a cop gone bad, he's a BAD GUY GONE COP.
Unfortunately, not the first, and not the last. Police hiring needs to be more meticulous, people who are issued weapons ane badges, better investigated veted.
Like father like son
When I hear Drew P screaming at the top of his lungs that he "didn't kill Cathleen", it shows what his wives had to live with. Kinda makes the hair stand up on the back of the neck.
*Heartbreaking*
You say it well,I agree 😢😢!
Narcissitic people think they can just do what they want. And there are way to many of them in this world. His acctions no remorse not any worry he lost these women is a very mental and socciopathic narc behaviour. He could care less other than defending he did nothing. That creep Lawyer is a narc too. yuck
This got me flashbacks of watching a documentary about Chi Omega Sorority house murders (Ted Bundy)
Stay together! Look out for eachother!
2:50 NEVER wish this upon another! yes it’s very selfish 🤬 you should wish they took their own life instead of ANYONE else’s child!!
I always enjoy watching your amazing crime investigation series. 😊 Keep up the great work. 👍
I pray something breaks to bring justice for Stacy. Drew Peterson is a monster.
It’s not selfish to wish someone else, some stranger, was in your loved ones place! I can’t imagine your pain and how often, how deeply you wish things to be different.
I was a college girl myself, once, in much safer times. The sense of being safe seems to be a mindset of the young, unfortunately. Endless numbers of young women are raped or murdered because of too much alcohol or drugs and having assumed one is safe when one heads out to party. True Crime should start mentioning failures in the paths to these deaths as failures. 1)Female celebrates by overindulging. 2)Her friends load her in a cab, unaccompanied, when they know she is out of control, 3)Her roommate hears the door open, but not close, but never checks......girl found dead. Three events listed that if checked, might have saved a life. Had the student not gotten smashed, she would not have died. The fourth one....The damn leftist judicial system needs to stop putting predators back on the streets!
exactly
Oh he was unbelievable it’s just pathetic how many women had to die at the hands of this monster 👿
I also would like to know what he was thinking when he realized his phone was gone!
I'm so glad my family didn't move to Bloomington
Worst part is she made it home safe . That I cannot comprehend . Sorry Hannah
Trying to be sneaky gets alot of women in trouble.
I havebt watched whole doc yet but it is very weird that cab did not drop her right at her door...was she in hurry to leave cab?
Young people really need to be careful at all time. I lived in a college dorm in the early 2000s. we never went anywhere alone and always went together in pairs or more. ladies, never go alone anywhere or send your friends alone, especially when alcohol or other drugs are involved.
I worked for a retired police officer and he was working for the company I was working for and he said .....if there is no recording ( like the pastor and Stacy had ) that is just plain hearsay. That should immediately have been stopped from being out there. I am shaming the pastor sharing that, don't trust this guy. Hope he records everything because one day he might be accused by a woman that says he made advancement towards her and it will be her word against his words. He will lose those charges.
There's an exception to hearsay ruling. I suspect the pastor's testimony would fall into these qualifiers.
I'm not sure, but I THINK pastors (acting in counselor compacity) are bound to similar guidelines as therapists /psychiatrist. It varies but per APA Ethical Principles, there are Duty To Protect/Warn Laws, which trumps confidentiality.
No shame on you for saying that. And they have every right to report stuff like that if someone has said what that lady had said. And some people like her may not want to be recorded knowingly and he probably didn't think to use his fun in disguise to record. You never down someone about that situation. What if that happened to you. Would you want anyone of us say that about you?
@@karentucker2161 sorry I responded to your comment by mistake, thinking it was completely different thread lol! I erased it 😓🫣
@@karentucker2161 sorry I responded to your comment by mistake, thinking it was completely different thread lol! I erased it 😓🫣