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But what about those who sent their babies back to the spirit world, that is, they practiced murdering babies if there was a lack of food at home?
Can you do a video on the various types of Kappa?
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Were the nuns exempt from having to have babies? Were the women who "sent back" their babies okay so long as they had at least 1 living child? Did sending a child back still count as karmically creating a child soul for Buddha?
@@NiaJustNiaThose are the questions
Hell if you menstruate, hell if you're barren...girl can't catch a break.
yeah that explains why there so many kinds of yokai that takes the form of a woman
It makes sense, they want kiddie girls to sleep with, than ''grown and blood-stained women''.
Really makes you think that often times, religion is just an excuse for men at power to do shit they're into.
What if you don't menstruate?
@@UwUImShioWell. If you are a grown woman, if you had Science back in 1st grade, it means you can't bear children because your uterus doesn't repair or renew itself to make egg cells.
Or the alternative, which alot of creepy religious men are into, are young kids who are "pure", thats why they dont "bleed"
If you think about it, most of the time, they just use religion as an excuse to fiddle "pure" people. (children)
A pure, non blood stained, they intend to bear children for them, are young girls.
@@UwUImShio that's also a problem because even if at that time, they didn't know why exactly a women went through menstruation, they knew it was somewhat connected to pregnancy.
Not going through menstruation could also be seen as same as or closely related to infertility.
I feel it's going to be like that.
That's a hell of a way to pressure someone into having kids.
I see what you did there
Badump - tss
It sucks when you concider many women can't have kids in their teens or 20s but then pop em out like firecrackers in their 30s 😭
really...😑
Clever. Let me try.
What did Emperor Shomu say when his wife turned out to be barren?
"Damn."
. . . I'll see myself out.
"You are infertile because you used to be a snake
-Well this sucks but now that I'm dead again maybe I'll have a better life !
-No, you're now punished for being infertile"
What if your pet was a lizard.
And people still believe Buddhism is some sort of enlightened religion 🙄
@@PlanetBabylonYeah, this is a part of Buddhism that doesn't get as much air time as the more appealing parts!
@@PlanetBabylonthis is a made up shit by Japanese buddhist🤓. Actual buddhism is very different.
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And let me guess infertile men wasnt a thing
Exactly..😒
Damn wish my gender wasnt so shitty lmao
Bruh, I swear some of these women probably just tried it with infertile men and everyone blamed them 💀.
Damn your right.
@@monochromeseraph4525 the smart ones who figured that out got pregnant by another man and fooled the first guy that way. Women be doing this even today in the age of DNA testing, except the motives have changed a bit in moral alignment...
Blaming people, especially women for an illness or disability? Nothing new under the sun.
…But wait, for being a SNAKE in a past life and eating EGGS? That’s literally what snakes do. Are carnivores farming bad karma by literally just staying alive?😭💔
I mean, yes, serious Buddhism means going vegan at some point. But also, there's more than one version of Buddhism as with many religions.
That's actually what my mother says. According to her dinosaurs were erased of existence for bad karma accumulation
...Yes. Welcome to Buddhism. The cycle of suffering is inherent in every day life, even vegans continue to cause suffering. The goal is to gradually divorce yourself from causing suffering.
Well before science people all over world make up shit to explain stuff in the world they can't explain for good or for bad reasons they make up shit and spread them all over
From what i know, and i may be completely wrong and if so please correct me, but animals are considered "lesser beings". They cannot learn the enlightenment of buddha, and therefore to be reincarnated as an animal is in itself a form of punishment, though it can be considered as a transcendence from lesser forms of life such as going to hell. So becoming smth like a snake, you either:
1) did smth wrong as a higher being, enough wrong for you to end up as a snake but not thrown into hell.
2) paid your karma through enough suffering from your past lives as lesser beings, enough for you to live as a snake.
Although you are basically "committing bad karma" by eating eggs as a snake, this may be considered as "suffering to pay for your past karma" because as a snake, you lack the skills to overcome your instincts to become carnivorous.
Anyone please correct me if i'm wrong at any point. This is what little i know of the topic and i mean no disrespect at all to any religion, my intention is to share my knowledge and possibly learn more through responses or questions.
And of course it was never the man who ate an egg in a past life and was infertile in the current life
Of course not, don't be silly.
And of course, infertility is a punishment for a previous sin so you can't fix it AND it's a sin itself.
Even the most orthodox Buddhist school with minimal bs (relative to other Buddhist schools) believes that being born a woman is because of bad karma, and that you cannot be a Buddha as long as you're female. I'm talking about Theravada Buddhism btw. But also according to Theravada, women can become Arhats, who are basically Buddha-lite and have achieved nirvana. Becoming an Arhat is the main goal for Theravada Buddhists (male or female), since they consider complete Buddhahood to be so difficult and time-consuming as to be unreachable for most people.
But of course, the ridiculous and scary hells do exist in Theravada as well. I'm just not sure if the hell mentioned in this video exists in that school since this is the first time I've heard of it. Them Japanese Buddhists were smoking some weird shit that was probably a hundred times more potent than the shit Theravada Buddhists were smoking back then lol.
@@KhukuriGod Fr
To be fair, women are more associated with child creation or children in general.
It's very easy to make that step in logic with no actual knowledge of what was happening.
Women against women? That is sad.😢
Humans against humans in general
Literally your average women
@@genghiskhan5701 not really
@@genghiskhan5701 depends on where you live
"that is sisterhood"...
I would have assumed it was to recruit more nuns: you're barren? Quick, divorce him and join a nunnery!
yeah, but if word got around you couldn't have kids they might not take you
“If thou dost marry, I'll give thee this plague for
thy dowry: be thou as chaste as ice, as pure as
snow, thou shalt not escape calumny. Get thee to a
nunnery, go: farewell. Or, if thou wilt needs
marry, marry a fool; for wise men know well enough
what monsters you make of them. To a nunnery, go,
and quickly too. Farewell!”
ancient japanese women were so clever for that. There even temple for shelter women who ran from abusive husband. their husband can;t do shit in temple (holy grounds) because they would be sent to hell.
As someone who translates Heian Period stories into English I can attest to the ancient Japanese being all about having kids. They loved kids. One of my favorite Classical poems is by Yama no Ue no Okurara who writes that children are a treasure beyond silver, gold and gems. Though looking at the Tale of Genji and the fact that Genji's primary love, Murasaki no Ue, never had children and everyone seemed to get on just fine, I wonder how much of a stink the nobility actually made about it day to day or if people outside of zealots like the Kumano nuns actually believed that they ended up in hell.
Also, greetings from Ise Shrine. I'm on my way to pay respects to the sun goddess herself.
Since Murasaki was his official wife couldn’t she have adopted the child of another wife if she wanted?
@@emilybarclay8831 Interesting you bring that up. If I remember correctly, Murasaki was never able to become Genji's actual wife, (kita no kata 北の方) because she was too low of status. However, she did end up adopting the daughter of one of Genji's mistresses, the Lady of Akashi, and that daughter later became an empress with many children. However, Genji and others mention a few times that it was a shame Murasaki was never able to bear children of her own, but it's never a topic they dwell on.
Wicked! Repent!
I don't know. If they were proclaiming so much the virtues of having children it might actually be to promote something they feared was not happening so much. Maybe a reaction to all the renunciant and ascetic lifestyle promotion?
@@milmundos I appreciate the reply but I have to disagree with a few things. I wouldn't say they promoted having kids per se as it was just a given that people wanted to have lots of kids. If a Heian Period nobleman or noblewoman were transported to our time and heard people outright declare they didn't want kids they'd probably have a hard time fully understanding the thought process. It would be like someone today saying they don't want mountains of money. Yeah, there are some people who say that, a handful of very unique individuals, but it's such an obvious desire that the people of ancient times never really needed to actively promote it. They just assumed that everyone wanted loads and loads of kids and would have been shocked to hear someone say otherwise.
Second point would be that, yes there were some religious ascetics who took their faith very very seriously and engaged in practices that only a very few number of people could handle, but that was very rare. The vast majority of Buddhist priests really lived fairly comfortable lives but were not officially allowed to have families, participate in governance, gain court rank and title or engage in some of the most extravagant and luxurious aspects of life. There wasn't an abundance of hardcore ascetics practicing or proselytizing their faith. And even for those who did run off into the mountains to live lives of seclusion and intense practice, while they were respected and revered the vast majority of people all acknowledged that that was not something they would be able to undertake.
So in summary, no they didn't actively promote wanting lots of kids because everyone just took it for granted that kids were something that everyone wanted, and there wasn't a particularly strong promotion of asceticism either and most members of religious institutions led comparatively mundane and easy lives, at least in and around the capital.
But nuns don't have children either so weren't they going to hell too? Or were all the nuns widows?
Probably they were exempt for spiritual reasons?! I mean you can't have it both ways.
Nuns are part of catholicism, not Buddhism.
Or women who had to leave their husbands because they didn't meet a 3 year deadline? Or women who saw it as their only out of being forced into marriage and childbirth if they didn't want it? I assume recruiting for Buddha is supposed to win them some of those spiritual credits or something.
Edit to add; I don't think Buddhism necessarily requires a vow of chastity. Iirc some Buddhist sects actually had some weird sexual rituals, that may have derived partly from older Shinto and partly from Hindu traditions
Buddha earlier refused to accept female bikunis as female will destroy the Buddhism for 500 years
😢 I am happily child-free by choice. Definitely going to hell 😂
I'm not gonna lie, the whole blaming the woman for infertility and making a special hell for that wasn't as surprising of a piece of information to me as learning about the existence of Buddhist nuns.
I mean, the former is still a thing, and also being blamed for giving birth to girls instead of boys in some areas, but I've never heard about women being seriously involved in Buddhism in East-Asia like monks are.
Pretty neat.
Really, I thought that was fairly common knowledge. Buddhist nuns don't get as much attention as Buddhist monks in western pop media, but I think any reference to Buddhist religious orders would make at least a passing mention to, at least, the existence of nuns.
:)
"Japanese women who didn't have kids were criticised."
I wonder what their reaction would be if they saw that a lot of modern Japanese women are not having children. 😂
The criticism in the past was 100% wrong and messed up. Although, the population crisis today is a real concern for Japan. It is a delicate balance.
Feels like Karma. When scales are tipped too far, people like to go to extreme in the opposite direction until scales are tipped far again but on the other side
Women were and still are shamed for not having kids that we all collectively got fed up, shaming tactic got old and now population risk from damn care attitude
Extreme begets extreme
@@tryphenarose384
Maybe if these teachings were still adhered to they wouldn’t be having a population crisis.
The women of today are still criticized. Even though a large reason the women of today aren't having children is due to expenses and unequal division of labor.
And, in Japan, the insane pressure to be skinny leading to anorexia.
@@lyndsaybrown8471 yeah sure, meanwhile murat (unemployed) with his wife latifah (unemployed) have 15 kids with another one on the way 😆 if someone actually wants to they will find a way.
Man, I wish I could transfer my endometriosis and the past pain I went through with growing ovarian cancer amongst big, organ squashing ovarian cysts to whomever thought these hells up.
This reads like poetry
Me too. Let’s all pray to transfer the pain 😂
Dear ancestors 🙏
Welp, out of the gene pool i guess.
Start a religion and say when you die that happens.
Didn't it occured to that men can be infertile too. What if the emporer simply couldn't produce potent rice seedlings to sow into his womans rice paddie or something? I guess they didn't believe men couldn't be infertile huh.😒
They also thought women decided the gender of the child (if women didnt bear sons it was it was their fault). Now we know it is men that determine the gender.
Its more of a case that they were competing over said powerful men and getting the competition ostracized is situationally advantageous. Even if it is the emperor who is infertile, by getting him to dump his wife and pick a new concubine she'll get the lap of luxury for a time before its her turn to be weeded out by the next girl in turn. Really vicious cycles of desperate pragmatism in a time of extreme haves and have nots.
People don't appreciate how much a few key relatively modern discoveries changed the world in drastic measure. When you are one swarm of bugs away from an entire country starving and a single infection away from death you really don't have time to worry about who is or isn't infertile or what is fair you just do what you do to survive. People want to blanket the many atrocities of the past that we view through our modern lens as if it were some grand conspiracy of evil people when in reality it's often just pragmatism driven by hunger and the very real threat that death was around every corner (median life expectancy often falling under 40 years) and just one slip up away. Penicillin, germ theory and modern agricultural techniques really changed the game for humanity, long term potential detriments aside it is unquestioned that in the short term up to present such things have dramatically improved our quality of life and are the only reason we can moralize the way we do at present.
@@Cyhcg5uhgb Are you tripping? What do you mean by decide? Yeah, there are X- and Y-sperms but there is no decision done by anyone. What
@@maikv750maybe try re-reading that reply ;)
@@maikv750 dude… it is widely known that almost all cultures practiced the belief that the gender of the child depended on the mother at one point or another.
So
Women who died in childbirth are sent to hell for "pouring blood on the earth"
Yet
Women who are barren also got sent to hell?
😂😂😂
in my religion , woman who die in childbirth can go to heaven . its called "Jihad For women "
and there no shame for women who infertil cause child given by GOD .
@@maryss8767same this just makes me respect my religion more because it was the first religion on planet earth that gave women human rights
@@misakimei3102 whats your religion ?
@@misakimei3102regardless of what your religion is, that seems pretty unlikely.
So, I've got to wonder how many children those nuns of Kumano had themselves.
I think this was their recruitment strategy. Wicked if you bear, wicked if you don't, why wouldn't you join them to escape this choice
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It's not like they didn't had children themselfs. As I said in other comment, those women were probably "old" women that werent' more useful to society as they couldn't bear children and/or weren't pretty/young anymore.
@@user-ft9ul5ul5v I'm talking by memory and dedution, but I think there was not reason for them recruit members. Mostly of Japanese knowledge history was wrote and told by the nobility, and as far as I know, to become a Nun was reserved by the Court "old" ladies. So I guess the reason as they will scare others women was maybe to sell charms or rituals. Not different of what any cult do today. Just a guess.
I would have had a psychotic meltdown if i lived in those day 😢
Interestingly, in contrast to this, the Bible doesnt look down upon barren women.
"“Sing, barren, you who didn’t give birth;
break out into singing, and cry aloud, you who didn’t travail with child:
for more are the children of the desolate than the children of the married wife,” says Yahweh."
- Isaiah 54:1 WEB
"He gives the barren woman a home, making her the joyous mother of children. Praise the Lord!"
- Psalm 113:9 ESV
@@matthewschardtii1338Ah jes the good old abrahamic religions where woman do not even have souls, are only good to beat child's and not allowed into any higher nobility.
I think women back then just got used to these cruel societies and sucked it up to not lose their sanity.
@@peachesandcream22 makes so much sense
I think people were less intelligent and more animalistic in those times. There's very few benefits for women to have children especially multiple, but the vast majority still wanted them in the medieval times. Kind of like animals who expire after they breed. We evolved since then, our brains and bodies are larger and we live longer. People were still basically cavemen in those times.
i thought being infertile was a punishment bad enough due to how was it was frown upon and such, but apparently it can get worse
It can always get worse. Such is life.
@@saymyname2417 Humans really can be just plain awful to eachother
When your punishment is a sin that gets you an even worse punishment.
Well hopefully none of them actually went to hell, they just got scammed into thinking they will
@@slashine1071 Buddhist hells aren't like Christian Hell. Everyone goes to a hell, because existing is suffering. Only on Earth, as a human, and achieving enlightenment takes you some place besides hell.
I'm sure everyone feels like a Buddha when they have to hold a screaming child at 3am
If they abstain to drown the bundle of joy in the bathtub, they are in their way to enlighten.
Perhaps the situation being so sleep deprived makes it so one ceases to experience desire?
It's not like a rich emperor would ever have to be involved with his child.
3 am? Oh, no, that would have either been the woman’s job, or the servants’, not the father’s 😬
@@DenMotherArkala
Load of BS
The fact that some Buddhisms invented hells is a whole thing in itself.
Most buddhisms have hell.
Why?
@@itsoblivion8124bc at its core Buddhism is a reincarnation based way of life, to make up a place that would keep you from reincarnating is counterintuitive. The idea is: do bad in this life, get a worse start in the next. Do well and good in this life, get a better start in the next. Keep going until you've reached enlightenment and become a Buddha yourself and you can step outside of the reincarnation cycle, as it's an earnable title.
@@ShamelessFNGRL it's similar to samkhya school of Hinduism. I guess buddha studies under samkhya gurus that's why
@@ShamelessFNGRLthere are eight hells in Buddhism
And so, Japan basically never changes. Always wanting to have bebes, never actually making it a comforting environment to have them. How are they still here now?
And now they're barely having bebes. Look at their birth rate.
@@debolinachatterjee1726 Feminism kills birth rates. We need to introduce feminism to China and India.
Also Africa too
Men never considered that they might be the ones who were sterile!
I wonder if the idea of the "barren hell" would have been a thing if men realised they could be sent there too smh
In previous life she was a snake, and ate birds unhatched bebes just to survive, and she got punished in human life... Does it mean back then eating eggs was considered a sin? Or all animals were sinful for eating eggs except humans? 🤔And how does it works - she goes to heck, for not being fertile. She got infertile as a punishment for sin in her snake life... Wasn't she supposed to be in heck after snake life? Its like geting a time out, because you got a time out!
Yes, they didn’t think that one quite through well
Telling women they'll go to hell for not having kids is so gross...
Not able to have children due to inferility not simply for not having kids.
@@jahirareyes1102 THAT’S WORSE
@@WhatisthisgremlinYeah, people back then were pretty ignorant. Punishing women for not having kids not because it was her choice not to but because she physically couldn’t. :,)
Buddha: I'm pretty sure there is no such hell
Yama/Enma: Whoever made this up is going straight to Avici
Exactly LoL 😆
Buddhism is complete nonsense.
Believing in karma means the woman and the emperor were never supposed to have children, rather than her being at fault.
That would have been the shlick but then again...
Women 🍵
_turns to watch at buddhist-nuns_
@@MalekitGJ we women are awesome. And so are men. 😍
That would be a belief in fate, not karma.
@@xn85d2 karma is similar to what people think of fate. Though it's really complex and what people commonly know does not even scratch the surface. Even what I know is surface level really.
@@alittleofsomething Can you actually explain why the idea of someone being 'supposed to' have a certain result or not would be linked to karma?
There is certainly the idea of karmic credit, that is, taking actions in line with positive objective moral virtues will accrue some form of cosmic currency which will then be paid back in results. Normally this might be a better reincarnation but can also take the form of fortuitous events - and likewise with negative karma and negative results. However, there is no concept of 'inevitability' of any one result in particular, as far as I know.
If there is some form of karmic inevitability then ultimately it's a blind, arbitrary, and unjust system that forces people to be what they are then punishes or rewards them for it; exactly the problem which the video highlights in this particular teaching of Japanese Buddhism.
I like how you added in King Yemma to represent those in charge of hell. R.I.P. Akira Toriyama.
Even in works of fiction like dragonball, we can see the influence of older story's.
So, not was infertile a punishment, you got punished for being infertile. That’s quite the mental gymnastics to get women punished for existing.
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This was one of the hardest watches for me so far. On par, with the mabiki. It's just awful. They scared women of dying childless. Scared them of dying in labour.
And then they say it's her own fault? How does hell even make sense then? Didn't she make up for it by not having kids, even if that were true?
Ugh... Why do all religions seem to be so toxic instead of uplifting?
Power. It's like meth, but worse.
Interestingly, in contrast to this, the Bible doesnt look down upon barren women.
"“Sing, barren, you who didn’t give birth;
break out into singing, and cry aloud, you who didn’t travail with child:
for more are the children of the desolate than the children of the married wife,” says Yahweh."
- Isaiah 54:1 WEB
"He gives the barren woman a home, making her the joyous mother of children. Praise the Lord!"
- Psalm 113:9 ESV
@@matthewschardtii1338curious considering how badly many christian sects view Ace people (specially women) and women who choose to be childfree, regardless if they are baren or not.
@@AnonimusQualquer You'd think they'd hold Paul, the originator of the church basically, in higher regard. The guy himself wrote about how it's best not to marry and all.
@@AnonimusQualquer Christianity made single, chaste life in pursuit of holiness a respectable and even desirable position in the West and middle east in a new way. The general Christian objection to chosen childlessness and asexuality is that these things are being embraced for reasons of comfort and self indulgence rather than the discomfort and self denial that Christians value in nuns, priests, monks, and hermits.
It sounds like something tradwives® would tell women . Misery loves company.
Are you really the kind of person that thinks that tradwifes are this evil group that wants to force other women to have children against their will?
talk about women's history month 😭💀
I’m pretty sure there’s also a hell for children who die. They’re punished because they caused suffering for their parents and have to stack rocks by a special river. Every time they almost finish, a demon comes and knocks it over.
That fate kind of reminds me of Sisyphus for some reason, where this guy in Greek mythology has to roll a boulder up a hill for eternity, but it always rolls back down.
I’m infertile. You’d think the hell on earth for being called “useless” and “not a real woman” amongst the other ridicule would be bad enough.
Arrrgh this is extremely interesting but tough to watch. I remember being in a freshman level college class about various religions, and when we were talking about Karma, the professor said people who have disabilities brought them upon themselves in a past life. As a person with a disability including chronic severe pain, which I was particularly struggling with adjusting to college life, I LOST IT. I asked him to clarify, he repeated himself, and I was so upset I said “this suffering is NOT my fault” and I gathered my stuff and scooted out of class. I didn’t mean to be dramatic, I was just so burning with anger and frustration.
And now as an adult, I also suffered infertility and still live with the room I planned to be the nursery painted in the decor scheme I had planned - Beatrix Potter. It’s there taunting me, but it’s also beautiful. Not having kids when you wanted them and grew up planning for them and fully expecting them and collecting name books, is heartbreaking. I still sometimes wonder what my kids would’ve been like. What it would be like to be a family. I have my dogs, and I anthropomorphize them sooo much. But they are with us for such an unfair amount of time, and in the end, they suffer. Loving means grieving; I guess that’s a worthwhile lesson.
Ooops, better end this rant.
Interestingly, in contrast to this, the Bible doesnt look down upon barren women.
"“Sing, barren, you who didn’t give birth;
break out into singing, and cry aloud, you who didn’t travail with child:
for more are the children of the desolate than the children of the married wife,” says Yahweh."
- Isaiah 54:1 WEB
"He gives the barren woman a home, making her the joyous mother of children. Praise the Lord!"
- Psalm 113:9 ESV
Something that makes Christianity unique amoung world religions is that its the only religion where the Almighty God purposely pursues us.
In many other religions, your performance and behavior dictates if that god will accept or reject you. However, in Christianity Yahweh God willingly chose to incarnate in a human body.
Since Heaven is without sin, no sin can enter. That's why we can't do more good Deeds than bad deeds to get into Heaven. So Jesus lived a perfectly sinless life on our behalf. Then Jesus willingly died on a cross dying a death he did not deserve to pay our sin debt in full. Next on the Third Day God the Father raised Jesus from the dead physically for our Justification. Then Jesus ascended into Heaven and is now seated at the right hand of God the Father and will someday physically return. Jesus will forever be God in a human body, the second person of the trinity.
Unlike in other religions where you have to earn a place in Heaven, Jesus offers citizenship in Heaven as a free gift. In order to receive that gift of salvation all you need to place your faith(trust) in Jesus for your salvation.
At the moment you believe, the Holy Spirit the Third person of the Tri-une God indwells you. You become a living temple of God and you are sealed by God. You are made a citizen of Heaven.
In Christianity we do good works because we are saved, not in order to get saved.
"We are made right with God by placing our faith in Jesus Christ. And this is true for everyone who believes, no matter who we are.
23 For everyone has sinned; we all fall short of God’s glorious standard. 24 Yet God, in his grace, freely makes us right in his sight. He did this through Christ Jesus when he freed us from the penalty for our sins. 25 For God presented Jesus as the sacrifice for sin. People are made right with God when they believe that Jesus sacrificed his life, shedding his blood. This sacrifice shows that God was being fair when he held back and did not punish those who sinned in times past, 26 for he was looking ahead and including them in what he would do in this present time. God did this to demonstrate his righteousness, for he himself is fair and just, and he makes sinners right in his sight when they believe in Jesus.
27 Can we boast, then, that we have done anything to be accepted by God? No, because our acquittal is not based on obeying the law. It is based on faith. 28 So we are made right with God through faith and not by obeying the law."
- Romans 3:22-28 NLT
"Have this mind among yourselves, which is yours in Christ Jesus, 6 who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped, 7 but emptied himself, by taking the form of a servant, being born in the likeness of men. 8 And being found in human form, he humbled himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross. 9 Therefore God has highly exalted him and bestowed on him the name that is above every name, 10 so that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, 11 and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father."
- Philippians 2:5-11 ESV
For this reason I don’t like the idea of reincarnation. The idea itself isn’t that bad but how people try to justify their behavior and the flaws in the world by that religion is sick. Do know this was never ever your fault. And that there is an quite an chance that they are wrong. A lot of people believe that reincarnation isn’t true but a trick by Satan to trick people into bad behavior. Just look how many people who believe in reincarnation treat others because they “deserve it”. Even if that was true kindness doesn’t cost and thing and why do these people think they can treat others badly without suffering consequences themselves in another life? What I mean is don’t worry just try to live your life and leave the haters behind. Just because they think so doesn’t make it true
As far as I know, Buddhism teaches that a believer's ultimate goal should be giving up all desires for enlightenment, and sex and child-bearing are the greatest of desires. Doesn't make sense.
Idk, Mahayana Buddhism and its branches are weird.
Mahayana and Vajrayana are super-weird because they have historically been far more adaptable to local cultures when compared to Theravada. Hence, this story about being able to eventually reach Buddhahood if you pop out enough kids. If you said this to a Theravadin, then they'd laugh at your face lol. It really doesn't make sense when you think about core Buddhist principles.
@@KhukuriGod Just as you said, Mahayana and Vajrayana Buddhism are adaptable to their local cultures, but this has caused pretty weird stray teachings from the Buddha's path.
They literally treat Gautam Buddha like a god, and idk have a thousand other Buddhas. The thing is that from its earliest stages, Mahayana Buddhism attracted people from all flocks and ideologies, so it had to either sacrifice numbers for the true philosophy or vice versa. They chose the latter.
Because of this, Mahayana Buddhism is basically the representative of Buddhism on the international scale, while Theravada is far more traditional but also minuscule.
The thing is that Buddhism is a religion for ascetics, people who are ready to give up this world. This is not something for the masses, which can be practiced by everyone, so intense modification took place. Often mixing a flavor of the local culture to make it more appealing.
Mahayana Buddhism teaches the exact opposite of what Buddhism stands for, all Mahayana Buddhist do is worshipping Bodhisattvas and try their best to look orthodox.
Mahayana is basically catholic Church of Buddhism.
This edges and illogical teachings are part of every religion.
They are intentionally keept in to catch the attention of any bystander.
They form the spiderweb which catches new souls - while the religion itself, the spider is hiding somewhere near.
@@molybdaen11 You might be right, but this is literally the complete opposite of what the Buddha taught.
Mahayana Buddhists say that you can attain Nirvana (devoid of ALL desires) by having bebes, which is itself the greatest desire.
WTF?
My hysterectomy came with a free vacation to a bamboo forest? Neat!
How did you get one of those? I want one so bad but these “doctors won’t even listen
Greetings from a Vietnamese Buddhist! Some of the stuff represented in the video reminds me of the politicization of Buddhism in Tibet, where it was used to justify capital punishment among other things. "Something is wrong with you, this is because you did this in a previous life"
Ah the good old tradition of using religion for political agendas.
“It actually makes sense if you think about it very little” 😂
His enlightenment? The man was probably infertile
Every new Linfamy makes me hate the culture and society of medieval Japan more and more.
It's just happen he cover Japan society, u will be surprised with how ur own medieval culture do things
In my locality's ancient culture it's pretty opposite, having too many kids will deplete your good omen according to shamans hence they forbid girls in eating conjoined fruits. It was thought that our lore of infant-like entities that prey on families who took them to their homes were a by-product of this practice. They were left by their mothers in the forest to perish only to return as a vengeful spirit incapable of rationality and any form of compassion is alien to them.
That's too bad, I enjoy learning about ancient cultures and how perspectives change over time.
@@vilyar122I don’t think he is saying he doesn’t enjoy learning
There is a reason medieval periods are colloquially coined "the dark ages".
I want to know if there was ever an extended time in history where women weren't blamed for every sorrow and woe expected to be punished for every issues in a in a mans life 🤦🏾♀️
I love learning about the old times
Interestingly, a similar idea of "if you are suffering that means it's your fault" is also present in some Christian denominations. For example, in Orthodoxy, children are responsible for the sins of the people on their family tree. So, if someone near them (a parent or a grandparent) sinned, their children would pay up to God for their sins.
Obviously, this would manifest in some bs bullying done by adults who haven't grown out of their highschool itch era.
What?! I didn’t know that yet I grew up in an orthodox Christian country… yet my family isn’t religious. That’s awful!
Well, humanity is collectively responsible, for destroying the enviroment,
thats why mother Nature must punish all of us.
Also, If you still benefit from the wrongdoings of your ancestors
(like the great grandchildren of former slave owners do) then obviously, you should be held accountable
@@tokio6332 I also grew up in an Orthodox Christian country in a non-religious household. Wish people around me were as non-religious and as chill as my family.
I've been Orthodox for more than a decade and I have never heard that. It sounds like Soviet antireligious propaganda.
It is so funny, specially since Buddhism in its purest state (before even Hinayana) was essentially an anti-natalist philosophy
Proof that any spiritual practice, once manifested into a religious dogma, becomes evil. Buddhism was supposed to be the chosen one, lol, but people corrupt everything.
Omg... Don't want to know what those pseudo theologists smoked to say that. It is equal to non baptist children go to hell etc.
Non baptised children don't go to hell. Catholics believe they go to purgatory until they get into heaven
It is a shit belive to keep people in their hands. By the way purgatoty another part of hell, made by mixing in underworlds of pagan religions, are totaly an unknown concept for early Christians. Means unnatural inflicted dogmas that got straight cut out from at least the Lutheran church after a bigger divideing. Christian belives are equaly messed up. Since it is a forced on people Religion since Medival times. So you can still buy your soul Out of hell If you are catholic, this Marketing campain seems to be equaly to all organized religions
@@josedorsaith5261 doesn't make IT better purgatoty is just pre-hell means another Location.
Still fucked up that you are essentially tortured before even having the chance to experience life, all because someone ate a damn apple generations ago, and there is still a chance that you might go to hell if you fail your 2nd trial.
@@vladstefan5216 yup but in every Case of fucked Up monney grabbing Religion you or someone Else can buy Out your Soul.
If you can stop someone from reaching enlightenment by not being able to give birth and this sends you to a lifetime of torment but your spouse can release you from having a lifetime of torment by creating a statue and praying. Do they not get sent to a hell for not doing so?
It's called propitiation and the practice is definitely a Hindu throwback.
In earlier Buddhism from India, in Hinduism and Jainism as well, not having kids too was not desirable, it was not considered exactly a sin, but a backlog, not just for women but for men also.
According to believes, a person collects different debts from different sources. From anscestors, one collects debt of lineage, from parents, one collects debt of love and care as well as upbringing they gave you. These debts could be laid off giving birth to children to continue lineage and giving parental love and care to next generation. One cant get salvation if bound by debts.
If one did not have children, people could even adopt children.
Whats funny is there is also apparently a hell for men who died before siring offspring as well
But no one talks about that, because man
There more I learn about life in medieval Japan the more I know how it suck to be a woman in those time.
Not like the men had it much better.
Up until the 20th century, life everywhere sucks and you are always in danger
Interestingly, in contrast to this, the Bible doesnt look down upon barren women.
"“Sing, barren, you who didn’t give birth;
break out into singing, and cry aloud, you who didn’t travail with child:
for more are the children of the desolate than the children of the married wife,” says Yahweh."
- Isaiah 54:1 WEB
"He gives the barren woman a home, making her the joyous mother of children. Praise the Lord!"
- Psalm 113:9 ESV
Cool. Even a stopped clock is right twice a day, I guess. Now if only it didn’t blame women for being raped.
Buddhism doesn't teach this either
Doesn't the Bible also say that women are saved through childbirth?
@stuffynosepatrol Not literally. It's most likely a prophecy about how through Eve, one of her decendents would crush the head of the serpent. In Christianity that's referring to Jesus and we believe that Jesus offers citizenship in Heaven as a free gift through faith in Him.
"And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers; he will crush your head, and you will strike his heel.”"
- Genesis 3:15 NIV
@@matthewschardtii1338 "not literally" you can't prove that. That's just your personal interpretation of the bible.
Either way I'm not going to worship a god who apparently orders child abuse
Haven't watched yet, is the hell an eternal family gathering where you make polite chit chat and then get sidelined by the "when are you having kids question?" And then it just keeps escalating as people make micro aggressive comments about how "your sister didn't have ANY trouble," "have you tried...," "well, maybe if you would just...", "i knew we shouldn't have let you..."
For eternity.
Being infertile, the worst kind of sin possible.
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*NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!*
Made in Abyss flashbacks intensifies
@@abellinns4013I fear of the knowledge you bear
That truelly shows how wrong paganism is. May Jesus help them all.
Usual conversation amoung Japanese buddhists began with "How dare woman...."
Buddha never said about hell for women who couldn't have a child.
It's just ancient japan machination.
Times haven't changed much, lol
In the West they ABSOLUTELY have.
@@saymyname2417
Please clarify.
Still in school huh?
@@Xbalanque84are you joking? The shear fact women are allowed to vote, own property and can survive without getting married. These are all knew things that many countries western countriest didn't used to have.
In the U.S. alone women didn't have full financial automaty till the 1970's
As a women you don't have to get married anymore and start a family if you don't want to. Yes, some people may think it is weird, but it isn't tabboo.
My parents immigrated from North-Africa, I have multiple aunts whose husbands instantly divorced them and kicked them out of the house when they didn't get immediatly pregnant (infertility means that they can have sex with anyone without getting pregnant. The hudband doesn't control the pregnancy, so she is a is seen as a whore by some). It was the husband that turned out to be infertile. These women will now have trouble getting married again, because they are not a virgin anymore, and they are divorced. This rarely happends in western society.
@@saymyname2417don't tell that to the tradwives®
😩 because it wasn’t possible for a man to be sterile, what hell does a man go to for not giving their wife a child. Oh yeah I forgot misogyny is a one way street.
Always a delight to learn from your videos, Linfamy!
But it was ok to send babies back 😆
You have to female juuuuust right.😂
Its only been a month but feel like i haven't seen ya since the Satsuma Rebellion, good to be blessed with a new video
Man, that is certainly fascinating. Horrific, but fascinating.
I am always waiting for your video 😊 Thank you for another great video, I love you and spread the knowledge👌
Empress Kōmyō (光明皇后) (701 - 23 July 760), born Fujiwara Asukabehime (藤原 安宿媛), was the consort of Japanese Emperor Shōmu (701-756) during the Nara Period. ~Wikipedia.
Wiki makes no mention of Buddhist hell or the legend Linfamy presents, but I did notice that 37 out of 61 Empresses from 710-1333AD are from the Fujiwara clan.
Asked my wife about this, can confirm that this is 100% something women would do.
Damn, people be evil
Men are evil
I can never get over how easily some people hurt others in the name of bullshit.
when I read the title of this video I thought that sinners would have to care for a giant baby like the one in the Ghibli film Spirited Away
The horror :p
SEAWEED SHEET SEAWEED SHEET
I HUNGER FOR SEAWEED SHEET
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I love learning more and more about old Japan (Amazing vid btw)
Bruh, throughout history, women just couldn't be cut some slack.
yay for another video, thank you for your hard work
Hope you like :)
I love it. I started binge watching a marathon of your videos again, and you posted a new video😊 truly makes happy. ❤ not the topic of the video, but your animation and humor does comfort me. Especially when I’m sick.
Hope you get well soon!
@@Linfamy 🥺☺Thank you!
As always, your presentation is amazing. ^^
Also, I thought reincarnation punished you for being bad by having you reincarnate into a lower lifeform. So how does an egg-eating snake (so just a snake; nothing wrong with it for a snake) reincarnate into a human?
Another amazing video pard !
You're so funny man 😂 been watching for years keep it up! 👏
I appreciate it! Glad you like the channel :)
Glad you are upping your game with exclusive content. Hope you make millions of dollars for the gubbamint and a few for yourself.
Sounds like the emperor must have done something terrible in a past life to deserve a barren wife. Where’s his punishment?
Emperors had several wifes, concubines, slaves, you name it. Enough kitty to have at least some bebes
@@PraiseJ-Pope But this one didn’t, since he had no children at all. His barren wife had to be his only partner.
Of course, the classic "punish women for just existing" routine
I truly feel disgust for such nihilistic myths that condemn the very logic of life itself.
With the logic of life, I mean the fact that living beings propagate their own life even when it comes at the cost of other living beings, trying to do the same.
This is best exemplified by the snake eating the eggs of the bird.
Should we ignore the suffering that the logic of life causes?
No, but nothing is gained by condemning it except for psychological torment that results from the contradiction between one’s desire to survive and grow and the desire to be a ideal person.
So the Budhist monks are old school vegans? Interesting.
Humans really hate on women for no reason
Hence they hate themselves. No one would be here without women.
Learning about women history has made me grateful I was born a Cis man. Soo much unnecessary suffering was avoided by something I had no control over. I still suffer somewhat but I prefer not having extra sufferings add it on to it.
Back breaking labor or being forced to join the army and fight horrific battles wasn't any fun either.
Both men and women had hard lifes except the lucky few.
@@celsus7979 Except the lucky few men. Even "lucky" women had it rougher than lucky men.
@@celsus7979 Yea still bad but not more added to it besides some those issues were with being poor and a man. Still better than poor and female. All from the aspect that the R word is less likely to happen to me.
Sometimes Buddhism seems like a game
Buddhism has a very romanticized conception in the west. But ultimately is subject to the same machinations as any other religion.
I remember once reading the memoir of a westerner turned monk in the tibetan school of buddhism. He came to his master in the monastary, surrounded by so many esoteric mandalas and deities and said: "Forgive me, but i do not think The Buddha intended this to be so complicated!"
His master just laughed and said: "Of course! It is Tibetan culture which has done this."
And women are always the losers
@@Marbo12fso basically as Buddhism spread, they became influenced by different culture
@@blugaledoh2669 woman no bady went to hell only from japan buddha
It's evil!
thats very tragic
"This reasoning actually makes total sense if you think about it very little"
thanx for throwing in the hard giggles every now and then. I now know that not only do you sound like most of my friends, you look like a good percentage of them as well.
Linfamy is back again!
Very silly lmao.
Punishing someone for soemthing that might be out of their control.
That's the beauty of the believe in karma. An inescapable circle of horror and idiocies...
@@saymyname2417moron religion gods themselves deserve to be punished
I mean, it can be interesting as a fictional horror story. Unfortunately, people believed it, and women were actually criticised for having an unintentional condition.
So, japanese budism is pretty much just hating on woman for existing.
It's pretty ironic that a religion tells you to not have any attachments in life only for it to say that you need to leave something to remember you by and get attached to.
"Hey you, stop serving your singular purpose as a species"
I wonder just how badly one must fuck themselves up to stop caring about reproduction
It is never his fault, eh?
So glad to see a video from you Lin, I've missed you! Did it not say anything about a man's karma if he was 'cursed' with a wife who couldn't give him children? I'm sure you will be blessed with lots of bebe's as every amazing video you post gives you big points with Buddha. 😊
Awesome upload as always!!! Can you do one on sumo wrestling next? I’ve been learning more about the sport and I’m dying to hear your take on it. Love from Texas
Cheers! Yeah sumo wrestling would be a good topic someday
@@Linfamy yayyy!!!!
The more I watch these types of videos, the more I can't help but feel that religion just exists to oppress women.
Correct. You wont find one religion that treats women superior to men or just equal, that came - if it ever came up - later
Isn't not being able to have kids punishment enough? Do infertile women need to be punished?
Watch the video, the answer was yes
@@rougestarlight4308 That's awful!
Women are social creatures, it served to enforce the social convention of having kids and continuing society.
I don’t want to be able to have kids because i don’t want them
@@FinnyThePorgI don't want kids either, but I think that punishing women who, through no fault of their own, cannot have children is cruel!
at that time the child mortality rate along with mortality rate for people in general was very high. so it makes sense that the leaders of that time would try to come up with stories like this to encourage people to produce as many babies as possible.
Aah my favourite japanese lore and folklore channel.
I think Buddha wouldn't have agrewd with any of these add-ons to this religion.
It was never meant to be a religion to begin with, he explicitely asked to NOT be worshipped
He was never trying to be a god
@@akiradkcn wait, really?
@@micahlindley7515That is actually 100% correct.