Shoutout to Chloroken for having shown the world this technique in his A Nomad's Tale series, fantastic way to both be safe and be able to huff a full cloud.
@@waddenderas7774 I called this nomad scooping, since it's primarily useful for caravan nomads who boost, since they're often solo. But your name is cool too. You can watch me sort out this technique in episode 10 of my series at 28:22, but I've been shown some compelling evidence that a few others knew of this even before I figured it out. Also, side note, but you can indeed spin (jedi) every single gas site in Anoikis, not just ICRs. And in my experience spinning is indeed safer in every capacity against players, even with camo (another technique in my series).
@@chloroken Nomad Scoping, I like it! I have no doubt others have found this technique before me. I'm looking forward to starting your Nomad's tale series from the beginning. From spinning of the lower value gas sites, it's sig tanking in that case right? You can't keep out of their range because the clouds simply aren't large enough? And for sure on it being safer against other players, if you're going to sit still for long periods you're very exposed!
So far the best video about Eve Online I have seen. Everything is explained clearly , no hidden implants or super expensive modules or ships that hardly no one can afford. Thank you !
While exploring a wormhole today, I saw a person collecting gas as shown in the video. Apparently there were slippers, but they didn't attack. I wanted to know how to do it and eventually found this video. Thank you for the great video!!
Nice explanation, thx for the upload!! Vast and Bountifull works aswell (the Bountifull is right at the edge). The Ordinarys you can do if you burn a ping at 100+ km from the towers in a tanky ship (Buffer Moa works well), heared some pppl saying you even can do it for other sites beacause the aggro ranage of the rats is lower but never tested. If the rats are already spawned you can just warp 100km make a bm, warp out and rewarp that bm at 100 and so on to get in a position where youi are out of aggro range to burn a ping uncloaked.
this is the way how people farm anomalies with carriers that has other capitals in them with max dps and range fit in eve echoes. sitting outside of agro range. If AI works the same like in echoes than even if they agro you if you go 250km+ away from their spawn location than they might deagro and go back to that location where they spawned. With this technique you can be very imaginative to farm NPCs that would normaly overpower you.
No not at all, you can daytrip in from K-space. There will be a bit of work required scanning through chains to find a C5/6 with the right site, but definitely a viable option
sounds like a bug from the old days... i'm honestly not sure if 250km was the max lock range, no matter what, back a few years ago but it sounds right with my memory. (correct me if i'm wrong pls)
80 minutes to fill that mining hold of 12500 m3. I don't need D-Scan bc i'm not staying for it. Ninga, Jedi, chameleon huffing. How do you call the one where you orbit an asteroid while rats try to kill you?
Once i find a cloud i bring my huffers into system and leave them cloaked. Then i send my scan ship to zero and start burning up if the rats have not spawned yet. Then i warp the huffers to zero to suck up the small cloud before the rats spawn. Scanner places a bookmark at 270ish from beacon and warps out. Once the small cloud is gone the huffers warp to the bookmark. If im worried about another parrty in system i will not worry about the small cloud. The only threat when on the bookmark is combat scanners so as long as you are d scanning like a mofo you will be fine.
@waddenderas7774 2-3 prospects but I use faction scoops so my cycle times are 22 Seconds with no boosts. And some times the rats spawn before its gone and I just warp them up to the 270 km bookmark and huff that. If I'm lucky the connection with be good after down time and I'll go back and get the rest.
this is great but for this type, i wouldnt get a covetor, i would get a retriever. itll hold like 35k. you can sit there without warping back and forth so often. ill pass you video on to my friends in a c5. i would love to bring my 3 covetors and porpoise and try this. =) boosts and compression is nice. its like 400m3 every 60 seconds per cov. disgusting.
Thank you for sharing pal! Yeah agreed, if you're going to solo, Retriever would be most efficient. If you've got a porp in there with compression though, Covetors all the way!
This method does not appear to work anymore, rats engage pretty much instantly at 230 km and one shot you, the cloud can become too small and not allow you to huff.
No, the most efficient method is to be part of a wormhole corp. The corp will need to maintain a scanned chain. Therefore, people will be happy to bookmark gas sites and pop rats for the gas huffers. You also get comms intel, the quality of which depends on the number of people who are online.
Great video with one exception. There is no such thing as a gank anywhere outside of high sec. A gank is literally suiciding a number of ships to kill a target that can’t fight back and then being killed by concord.
No that's a suicide gank. Why are PVP's always trying to justify themselves. Blowing up defenceless much weaker ships is always a gank irrespective of what security, just own it.
Gank has NEVER only meant a suicide gank and certainly is not "literally" what you said. Are you like 12 years old and new here? That's precisely why why "suicide gank" exists as a qualifier added onto "gank." It'd be redundant to say otherwise. Ganking is an umbrella term that refers to ANY killing in a video game where the target is far weaker, unable to fight back, caught unawares, killed by a much larger group, or otherwise killed in an underhanded way, etc. A gank can include one or many of these general conditions. This definition applies to EVE too. Always has. Like dude above me said, just own the fact that a gank is a gank and that's fine. It's only shameful if you feel ashamed that you've done it.
Shoutout to Chloroken for having shown the world this technique in his A Nomad's Tale series, fantastic way to both be safe and be able to huff a full cloud.
Thank you! Pinned the comment and I will check him out.
Fantastic series, highly recommended
@@waddenderas7774 I called this nomad scooping, since it's primarily useful for caravan nomads who boost, since they're often solo. But your name is cool too. You can watch me sort out this technique in episode 10 of my series at 28:22, but I've been shown some compelling evidence that a few others knew of this even before I figured it out.
Also, side note, but you can indeed spin (jedi) every single gas site in Anoikis, not just ICRs. And in my experience spinning is indeed safer in every capacity against players, even with camo (another technique in my series).
@@chloroken Nomad Scoping, I like it! I have no doubt others have found this technique before me.
I'm looking forward to starting your Nomad's tale series from the beginning. From spinning of the lower value gas sites, it's sig tanking in that case right? You can't keep out of their range because the clouds simply aren't large enough?
And for sure on it being safer against other players, if you're going to sit still for long periods you're very exposed!
@@chloroken the legend himself
So far the best video about Eve Online I have seen. Everything is explained clearly , no hidden implants or super expensive modules or ships that hardly no one can afford. Thank you !
Thanks very much for you comment! It means a lot and I'm glad you find my content helpful!
The reason they don't aggro you is because you have the high ground, they wouldn't try..
Awesome vid!
Of course! It all makes sense now
While exploring a wormhole today, I saw a person collecting gas as shown in the video. Apparently there were slippers, but they didn't attack. I wanted to know how to do it and eventually found this video. Thank you for the great video!!
I'm glad you managed to find it!
That is an awesome video and massive props to you for sharing this “secret” with us day-trippers!
I hope you are able to make use of it :D
@@waddenderas7774 I certainly did only last week huffed nearly 20k before a roaming gang swung by but I had plenty of time / room to escape
I love all these colorful naming schemes. Can't wait what the next one will be.
The creativity of the Eve player base... it's something to marvel :D
So damn cool man. Thanks so much for sharing. This never occurred to me.
I hope you're able to make use of it!
Works for C32 in vast as well, I can confirm it since I am doing it as we speak and sleepers are at 280 km.
Nice explanation, thx for the upload!! Vast and Bountifull works aswell (the Bountifull is right at the edge). The Ordinarys you can do if you burn a ping at 100+ km from the towers in a tanky ship (Buffer Moa works well), heared some pppl saying you even can do it for other sites beacause the aggro ranage of the rats is lower but never tested. If the rats are already spawned you can just warp 100km make a bm, warp out and rewarp that bm at 100 and so on to get in a position where youi are out of aggro range to burn a ping uncloaked.
For the Ordinarys, do the sentries only have a 100km range?
@@waddenderas7774 yes, its about 6 months ago since i checked the last time so be carefull.
Does sig radius effect how far they can see your from? Would ECCM scripts work to make you more secure, and harder to scan down?
Is a miasmos capable to put gas in its ore hold? That would make it a one stop shop.
Thanks for informative video
Works for C32 in C3 Wormhole (Vast Frontier Reservoir)
If you have a fleet you can probably clear the smaller cloud before the rats spawn. Looks like a fantastic technique.
Maybe...
If you're fleet is big enough, for sure!
What kind of resolution do you play at? You seem to have so much room in your UI. Did you scale down the UI? I love it! Nice video!
Would this theoretically work with a venture as well?
It works perfectly with a venture!
this is the way how people farm anomalies with carriers that has other capitals in them with max dps and range fit in eve echoes. sitting outside of agro range. If AI works the same like in echoes than even if they agro you if you go 250km+ away from their spawn location than they might deagro and go back to that location where they spawned. With this technique you can be very imaginative to farm NPCs that would normaly overpower you.
What would be a good ship to clear C1-C2 wormhole gas sites / combat sites as well as T2 abyss?
Nice! that's the issue with HS gas sites - you have to sit so close to the cloud that I end up using D-scan as if I was in NS anyway.
Are there any HS gas sites at all? I can't find any whatsoever
@@gettinfr0stii823 All the time. You have to scan them down, but they exist. They will be 2-3 smaller clouds with about 1000 units to harvest per
Do you need to live in WH space to do this?
No not at all, you can daytrip in from K-space. There will be a bit of work required scanning through chains to find a C5/6 with the right site, but definitely a viable option
This method can be done on the bountiful and vast resevoir as the clouds are big enough
sounds like a bug from the old days... i'm honestly not sure if 250km was the max lock range, no matter what, back a few years ago but it sounds right with my memory. (correct me if i'm wrong pls)
why does your ship have 12,500 mining hold whereas my covetor only has 9000? am i missing something?
hes using a prospect in the video
Just depends on the ship you're flying! The small mining hold is a limitation of the covetor
still actual or ccp fixed the rats agro?
Will this work in null too?
I don't believe rats spawn on k-space gas sites, so you shouldn't need to worry
That is an awesome video Sub'd
80 minutes to fill that mining hold of 12500 m3. I don't need D-Scan bc i'm not staying for it.
Ninga, Jedi, chameleon huffing. How do you call the one where you orbit an asteroid while rats try to kill you?
always use the ship that sleeprs ignore to do the setup
Which ship do sleepers ignore?
@@waddenderas7774that would be the Zephyr, handy in a home system for site set up at best.
@@waddenderas7774 sorry missed your comment butita a special addition shuttle called a zephyr
@@fenrir-star I did not know this! I'll have to check it out
Yeah it was a special gift ship with the Apocrypha expansion way back when.
Put in my application for the corp, like what you guys are doing and hoping to get involved. Marius Titanborn
Having to kill the rats or speed tank is what stopped me from huffing. this is amazing
Watch out for those pesky players though!
isnt fullerite one of the worst gasses isk wise?
Does this still work?
It should do!
god what a fuckin legend, instant reply on a year old video. Thanks @@waddenderas7774
Superbowl!
Once i find a cloud i bring my huffers into system and leave them cloaked. Then i send my scan ship to zero and start burning up if the rats have not spawned yet. Then i warp the huffers to zero to suck up the small cloud before the rats spawn. Scanner places a bookmark at 270ish from beacon and warps out. Once the small cloud is gone the huffers warp to the bookmark.
If im worried about another parrty in system i will not worry about the small cloud.
The only threat when on the bookmark is combat scanners so as long as you are d scanning like a mofo you will be fine.
How many huffers do you use to clear the small cloud before the rats spawn?
@waddenderas7774 2-3 prospects but I use faction scoops so my cycle times are 22 Seconds with no boosts. And some times the rats spawn before its gone and I just warp them up to the 270 km bookmark and huff that.
If I'm lucky the connection with be good after down time and I'll go back and get the rest.
The hardest part about gas huffing is surviving long enough to scan probe the site and finding a gas sight in general. Very time consuming
surviving long enough to scan should be very easy if you just create a safe
@@elecbaguette for me if i'm searching for gas, i only get relic, if i'm going explo, i only get gas... Not very lucky jajaja
Well, that's a subscribe.
we have named this scuff huffing, found u about 4 months ago
Quickly guys get huffing before CCP drops the nerf hammer on h to his shit..! :P
P.S. this is f*cking awesome ..!
i tried doing this kind of stuff with ore sites and stuffs aggro soon i tag rock no matter distance :S
oh fuck, that's right, they increased the clouds! both their size and quantity! ccp did an oopsie
this is common practice
this is great but for this type, i wouldnt get a covetor, i would get a retriever. itll hold like 35k. you can sit there without warping back and forth so often. ill pass you video on to my friends in a c5. i would love to bring my 3 covetors and porpoise and try this. =) boosts and compression is nice. its like 400m3 every 60 seconds per cov. disgusting.
Thank you for sharing pal! Yeah agreed, if you're going to solo, Retriever would be most efficient. If you've got a porp in there with compression though, Covetors all the way!
This method does not appear to work anymore, rats engage pretty much instantly at 230 km and one shot you, the cloud can become too small and not allow you to huff.
Damn if ccp fix the rats aggo I gonna blame you lol
This video would be much better if it was less that 1/4 as long.
To bad I just found this CCP must have as well as these clouds are now only 240km at zero
No, the most efficient method is to be part of a wormhole corp. The corp will need to maintain a scanned chain. Therefore, people will be happy to bookmark gas sites and pop rats for the gas huffers. You also get comms intel, the quality of which depends on the number of people who are online.
Great video with one exception. There is no such thing as a gank anywhere outside of high sec. A gank is literally suiciding a number of ships to kill a target that can’t fight back and then being killed by concord.
No that's a suicide gank. Why are PVP's always trying to justify themselves. Blowing up defenceless much weaker ships is always a gank irrespective of what security, just own it.
Gank has NEVER only meant a suicide gank and certainly is not "literally" what you said. Are you like 12 years old and new here? That's precisely why why "suicide gank" exists as a qualifier added onto "gank." It'd be redundant to say otherwise. Ganking is an umbrella term that refers to ANY killing in a video game where the target is far weaker, unable to fight back, caught unawares, killed by a much larger group, or otherwise killed in an underhanded way, etc. A gank can include one or many of these general conditions. This definition applies to EVE too. Always has. Like dude above me said, just own the fact that a gank is a gank and that's fine. It's only shameful if you feel ashamed that you've done it.
Please delete the video! lol