Pastor Doesn't Want to Cast the Pearls Before the Swine | Eugene - OR | Talk Heathen 02.32

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  • @TrentTroop
    @TrentTroop 6 ปีที่แล้ว +829

    I get the feeling Eugene hasn't had many conversations with nobelievers where he didn't control the situation. You can see him trying all the tricks that work on his flock and being baffled that they aren't working.

    • @pterafirma
      @pterafirma 5 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Mostly this.

    • @lizd2943
      @lizd2943 5 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      I get the feeling Eugene was drunk.

    • @davidhalldurham
      @davidhalldurham 5 ปีที่แล้ว +86

      You're exactly right. These people have scripts that they depend on. They can't stand it when they're derailed.

    • @mihaicolceriu-nicola7148
      @mihaicolceriu-nicola7148 5 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      @@lizd2943 u know?now that i listen to his voice and the way he's talking again,it might be very plausible he was drunk.i mean he had the guts to claim and say out loud that he raised the dead lmfao :)))))))

    • @ericwood3709
      @ericwood3709 5 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Yep. A lot of people lack the critical thinking tools and education necessary to deal with preachers like this one.

  • @Reno_Slim
    @Reno_Slim 4 ปีที่แล้ว +400

    The saddest part is that the pastor thinks he's casting pearls when they're actually cheap fakes.

    • @mineduck3050
      @mineduck3050 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Its deeper than that. We assign value, we arbitrate beauty. A pearl is ugly to a person who only enjoys dark colors, a pearl is valueless unless it is made an idol of material possession.
      To caste these pearls is to make, and abide by, a shallow assumption. This is what happened here in the vid to prove that.

    • @edwardofhydeiii666
      @edwardofhydeiii666 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      It's just a "Pearl" necklace made out of mints

    • @WhoThisMonkey
      @WhoThisMonkey 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mineduck3050
      Pearls were considered of worth, 2000 thousand years ago due to their rarity, just like other rare metals like silver or gold.
      I'm not sure individual perspective applies to currency? 🤔
      Society applies value, individuals can apply value, but that only effects the individual, not society.

    • @roostermcscratch9060
      @roostermcscratch9060 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      “Beware of imitators such as; not giving a shit, not giving a cunt suck, and Nick Nolte.”

    • @ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095
      @ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      _"The saddest part is that the pastor thinks he's casting pearls when they're actually cheap fakes."_
      Cheap fakes made of fossilised bull crap.
      Did he really say he and his eight congregants raised someone from the dead?
      {:-:-:}

  • @MgtowRubicon
    @MgtowRubicon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +129

    "It's hard to win an argument with a smart person; it's impossible to win an argument with a stupid person." -- Bill Murray

    • @SecondaryHomunculus
      @SecondaryHomunculus ปีที่แล้ว +8

      “NEVER ARGUE WITH STUPID PEOPLE. THEY WILL DRAG YOU DOWN TO THEIR LEVEL AND BEAT YOU WITH EXPERIENCE.”
      -Mark Twain

    • @johnsperry9494
      @johnsperry9494 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      "The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt.” - Bertrand Russell

  • @MsPoliteRants
    @MsPoliteRants 5 ปีที่แล้ว +380

    I am *dying* over here. I laughed so hard I *snorted* . My coworkers want to know what’s going on but once I started with “atheist podcast” they went quiet cause they’re “god-fearing”.

    • @davids11131113
      @davids11131113 4 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      I’m glad I have no fear of some invisible being.

    • @-Me_
      @-Me_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Recommend them a phone number. If you know where I'm going with this

    • @edwardofhydeiii666
      @edwardofhydeiii666 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      I met a guy today that was literally being emotionally abused by god. That "god fearing" part is too accurate, and not for the reasons they suspect

    • @AndRew-vo9bz
      @AndRew-vo9bz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Tannis penne or tagliatelle? My favourite pasta is the twists!!

    • @actionfigure4005
      @actionfigure4005 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Maybe it was cause you were watching videos instead of working and not because they were "God-fearing"

  • @johnnybgoodeish
    @johnnybgoodeish 6 ปีที่แล้ว +429

    Pastor doesn't realise that his "pearls" are actually goat droppings and the "swine" are actually intelligent reasoning humans.

    • @smackfanxion
      @smackfanxion 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Its because he was looking at them upside down that they looked like pigs. he has x-ray vision after all.

    • @Powerlifter83
      @Powerlifter83 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      johnnybgoodeish 💯💯 so fucking dead on

    • @w8m4n
      @w8m4n 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Brilliant 😂

    • @GalapagosPete
      @GalapagosPete 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Bullshit!
      Goat droppings are useful.

    • @twig8523
      @twig8523 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I thought that phrase was about how masturbation was wrong, but the bible was just being coy about it.

  • @name_goes_here1418
    @name_goes_here1418 5 ปีที่แล้ว +298

    "my congregation of 8 people resurrected someone from the dead"
    sounds more like a cult to me lmao

    • @skateraptor12
      @skateraptor12 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      name as the Christians would say, unholy witch craft

    • @leogosrjp4093
      @leogosrjp4093 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      It’s more like - As long as there are absolutely no follow up questions ‘my congregation of 8people resurrected someone from the dead’

    • @mafia5074
      @mafia5074 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      He died for people' sins, he fucked up everything by waking up, he shud have stayed dead.

    • @WhoThisMonkey
      @WhoThisMonkey 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It's necromancy if anyone else did it 🙈

    • @RemnTheteth
      @RemnTheteth 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      All religions are cults.

  • @9finger-frodobaggins198
    @9finger-frodobaggins198 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    I love that Eugene starts off by telling you he can raise the dead and then calls you a pig for asking him how he did it!!! But I must say a good magician never gives away their secrets...

  • @AlexWh1
    @AlexWh1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +181

    Is there freewill in heaven?
    Yes
    Is there evil in heaven?
    No.
    So they can't do evil things in heaven ... but still have freewill ?

    • @carerforever2118
      @carerforever2118 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      According to the Bible, WAR broke out in heaven.
      Revelation 12:7 Then war broke out in heaven.
      l always thought heaven was supposed to be a peaceful place, that nothing bad happens there? LOL 😆
      Well anyway, glad l'm a Atheist now.

    • @UlshaRS
      @UlshaRS 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@carerforever2118 wait you think they actually read the whole book? ;)
      I think most Christians read more of the bible walking down the home decor aisle of a Target and reading the inspirational wall hangings than they have from the book itself

    • @TallSilentGuy
      @TallSilentGuy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Maybe you are able to do evil things in heaven but you get catapulted out at the precise moment of execution?

    • @G_killer_
      @G_killer_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      My apologetic answer is Gods spirit would make you want to only do good things.

    • @WilbertLek
      @WilbertLek 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@G_killer_
      Would make me?
      So.... no freedom of choice in "heaven".....

  • @kaziras342
    @kaziras342 6 ปีที่แล้ว +191

    I saw a man rise from the dead in my church when I was a Christian. He had a heart attack. The paramedics were called, the congregation prayed. The medics shocked him and he raised from the dead. This is still claimed to be a miracle and that God raised him from death twenty years later. God got the credit and the medics never got a look in.

    • @sithguitarist698
      @sithguitarist698 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      The comedian Daniel sloss has a really good bit about this. The bit is titles something like "thanking God instead of doctors"

    • @dionettaeon
      @dionettaeon 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      "If I remember correctly, you came to ME for help, I diagnosed you, and prescribed a treatment. In fact, if I remember even further back, He's the one that gave you cancer. Why? Hmmm, maybe because you're an ungrateful fuck." Loved his expressions in that bit.

    • @peterburgess5974
      @peterburgess5974 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      That always happened in 'Champion the Wonder Horse.'. Rebel, the dog in the TV programme, did all the hard work, arranged the rescue services, generally saved the day and if he was lucky, had a bark or two in the last seconds. The blinking horse who just shook his main, neighed like an idiot (well a horse) and just happened to be in the general area had a whole TV production with his name on it. Oh the injustice! It used to really bug me as a kid and now I see God is doing the same. Naughty chap!

    • @The1980Philip
      @The1980Philip 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Shocks don't actually restart hearts. In fact, they work by stopping a heartbeat-a weird, problem heartbeat, that is. A powerful electric shock can actually CTRL-ALT-DELETE a heart that's pumping irregularly or too fast, in hopes of resetting the heart to its correct rhythm. Only chest compressions can do that (or direct heart compressions if the person is being operated on and the chest is already open.
      The whole shocks restarting hearts thing is actually a fiction.

    • @VestigialHead
      @VestigialHead 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      +
      Kazira S
      Reminds me of this _true_ story:
      Rachel is a very religious woman. One day, a local river bursts its banks and floods her town. The mayor warns everyone to leave. Everyone panics and starts evacuating except for Rachel, who says God will save her.
      Soon, the water has filled her first floor, and Rachel goes up to a second story window. A rescuer passes by in a rowboat and offers to help Rachel leave, but she says no - God will save her.
      Next, the water rises even further and Rachel clambers up on her roof. A helicopter passes and a rescuer offers to take Rachel away, but she refuses, explaining that God will save her.
      Finally, the water rises even higher and Rachel drowns. She goes to Heaven, where she comes face to face with God and asks, “Why didn’t you save me?”
      “I tried,” explains God. “First I sent you an evacuation order from the mayor, but you didn’t listen. Then I sent you a rescuer in a rowboat and you didn’t listen. Then I sent you a rescue helicopter - and still you ignored me!”

  • @TheRonnierate
    @TheRonnierate 6 ปีที่แล้ว +611

    I really wanted to hear how Eugene and his eight buddies raised someone from the dead!

    • @kaziras342
      @kaziras342 6 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      Dale Reynolds.
      I bet it was the paramedics that did it.

    • @N2Otorious
      @N2Otorious 6 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      1 had a defibrillator, the other 7 prayed.

    • @gamebred5x
      @gamebred5x 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Me too!!!!!

    • @bobbyhunsaker8233
      @bobbyhunsaker8233 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      T-Virus.

    • @DemothHymside
      @DemothHymside 5 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      He rolled a natural 20.

  • @JCW7100
    @JCW7100 5 ปีที่แล้ว +141

    "So how do you know the bible is true"
    "Well because of the holy spirit"
    "How do you know the holy spirit exists?
    "Well the bible says he does"

    • @54spatula
      @54spatula 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      A classic circular argument 🤣

    • @imjessietr29
      @imjessietr29 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It amazes me that the Holy Spirit is true yet tells people to believe the Bible but the Bible is wrong.

    • @Julian0101
      @Julian0101 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Richard Arena Bravo, bravo, you certainly destroyed that strawman.

    • @chrissonofpear1384
      @chrissonofpear1384 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I suppose at least HS can COMMUNICATE.
      So, does HS communicate CONSISTENTLY, also?

    • @WilbertLek
      @WilbertLek 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @Richard Arena point to the doll where reality touched you in a bad way.....

  • @stephenland9361
    @stephenland9361 5 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    "I can levitate and fly around the room."
    Wow!! That's something that sounds incredible. Can I see you do it?
    "I can tell that you don't believe me."
    Well, it does sound rather... unusual.
    "So you are an unbeliever. You are not worthy of my time or effort. Be gone."

    • @WilbertLek
      @WilbertLek 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Gary "darth dawkins" Milne... everywhere....

    • @channelfogg6629
      @channelfogg6629 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A friend of my father's who had a beat up old car said one evening he could create a new car with the power of his mind. My father asked why he didn't then, seeing he was driving round in a banger. 'You wouldn't believe me.' It never ends, does it?

  • @Aging_Casually_Late_Gamer
    @Aging_Casually_Late_Gamer 6 ปีที่แล้ว +252

    You know why children lie? Because they don't want to get in trouble. Its called self presveration. Not "sin".

    • @ArtofFreeSpeech
      @ArtofFreeSpeech 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Or they want mommy to pay attention to them.

    • @leephcom
      @leephcom 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      How would lying be a productive way of gaining attention from an adult?
      Unless the lies were in some way fantastical like 'Mummy, I just stabbed Daddy in the back and he's lying on the floor in the basement - come and look!'

    • @haleythered1857
      @haleythered1857 5 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      @@leephcom Negative attention is still attention.

    • @deanreadman3263
      @deanreadman3263 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Exactly and if childern are empowered and raised with love and compassion they may never need to lie.Childern lie because of dysfunctional family systems

    • @themousethatroared3371
      @themousethatroared3371 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@deanreadman3263 Nailed it.
      This caller seems to preach the "Born in sin" doctrine. All children are born evil sinners and need to be purified. Can you imagine what a warped upbringing his kids must endure? To be told that you are bad just for being born and must be "saved". Horrible.

  • @JasperSalem
    @JasperSalem 6 ปีที่แล้ว +214

    With 9 thumbs down at the this time, it appears the good pastor and his flock have all come here to downvote the video.

    • @Godslayer1975
      @Godslayer1975 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      no its us normal people who think these two hosts suck they let pastor get away with everything it was joke why have show to be bitch they did more damage then anything . you are just fanboy of nazi group ACA and cant grasp normal liberals see them as the problem the far fra left scum bags that are finally dying faster then even religious now days

    • @predatorsilver
      @predatorsilver 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Its funny you say that because at this moment it is at 81, he said he had 80 followers, and counting him. How ironic.

    • @vooveks
      @vooveks 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It won't be them, they're not allowed internet.

    • @JoBo0209
      @JoBo0209 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      HellBringer that sentence looks like it was typed by a 6 year old

    • @susanmaggiora4800
      @susanmaggiora4800 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Jordan Bowman 🤣

  • @graemeclifford6358
    @graemeclifford6358 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Both presenters made so many excellent points/arguments that left the pastor absolutely defeated.
    Well done

  • @DubiLLAuntAndre
    @DubiLLAuntAndre ปีที่แล้ว +23

    The Bible: making atheists one reader at a time 😎

  • @aankwenti
    @aankwenti 5 ปีที่แล้ว +119

    I've got this feeling that somewhere in Oregon, there's a mental asylum that's missing 9 patients.

    • @davewilliams5102
      @davewilliams5102 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Great Comment! Mental asylum is located in Salem, Oregon. Just north of Eugene on Interstate 5!

    • @plantsandpoetry3953
      @plantsandpoetry3953 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm dead XD

    • @imvandenh
      @imvandenh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Toughen Up, Fluffy There were a lot more than 9 of them in the "family". 9 convictions related to the Tate and LaBianca murders perhaps.

    • @randomhumanoidblob4506
      @randomhumanoidblob4506 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think there's a morgue missing nine bodies...
      "Goddammit. I'll get it this time. RISE, you bastard. Gnaaaaeeeerghhhh!!!!"

    • @user-qt8ko4gm2k
      @user-qt8ko4gm2k 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's ableist

  • @tylerjames3159
    @tylerjames3159 6 ปีที่แล้ว +102

    I'll say this: The pokemon reference almost went right past me!! XD
    6:05
    Pastor: "Have you ever 'Encountered' a child?"
    Jamie: "Yes, I was in tall grass, a level 5 child appeared, and I captured it."
    Me: "............. HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!"

    • @primordialsky7221
      @primordialsky7221 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      *GASP* Its evolving..............
      You got a lvl 1 theist.

    • @sidepot
      @sidepot 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Tyler James Yes that was clever. Needless to say it went right over the callers head.

    • @WriterBug192
      @WriterBug192 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I laughed so hard when he said that 😂

    • @jonny46ba
      @jonny46ba 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      i did wonder wtf he was talking about. thanks

    • @leogosrjp4093
      @leogosrjp4093 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      My child just learned quick attack, now when we’re at the grocery store and someone’s about to take the last bottle of OJ, ‘child use quick attack’

  • @cicyflame
    @cicyflame 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    I love how this dude opens up with 'Yeah my church brought back the dead' and the wants to just move past that. Bro if you could revive the dead you'd be a global phenomenon, no question about it.

    • @CeezGeez
      @CeezGeez หลายเดือนก่อน

      yeah he thought he was just gonna slide that in and no one would notice

  • @davids11131113
    @davids11131113 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    ‘I can raise the dead and that’s all I’ve got to say about that!’ ..... wait what? 😳

  • @curtbressler3127
    @curtbressler3127 6 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    It's so amazing how unintelligent people can become when they simply don't have, nor exercise, the skill of rational thinking.
    Dogma truly damages the brain.

  • @MartinJames389
    @MartinJames389 6 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    Lying is actually a significant stage in a child's cognitive development. A child's first lie should be celebrated! It indicates that (s)he has acquired a sense of self and agency within reality and is exploring the manipulation of reality. The extent to which this person will amend reality in future and the extent to which they will do so to socially useful or socially destructive ends remains to be developed, of course.

    • @mybuisness5561
      @mybuisness5561 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      There's a big difference between telling a lie and knowing a lie. I tell our janitor at work he does a good job of cleaning, knowing very well he sucks at it. I told him a lie knowing I did.

    • @johnmorris2170
      @johnmorris2170 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      As an ex-Child-and-Youth Care Worker I have to agree.

    • @davids11131113
      @davids11131113 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I have no problem saying I lie today, to save myself....like when a girlfriend says her friend needs help moving Saturday ‘Sorry I’ve got to drive to the next town to pick up work supplies can only do it Saturday’....I have no problem with that I don’t think it’s ‘sinful’....it’s a far bigger sin to ask me to help move! But I don’t even believe ‘sins’ are a thing in the first place.

    • @ginasalinas2731
      @ginasalinas2731 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes! Child development is fascinating right? I had one child who constructed a complicated story pretending his papa had said yes to a popsicle, he opened papas door stick his head in a moment, very quietly shut the door of his sleeping papa and exclaimed"he said yes!"
      He was only 2 and are they just developmentally he should have only been beginning lies of omission.....
      I was so proud
      No one got it

    • @derekardito2032
      @derekardito2032 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lying for Jesus is part of being a christian

  • @xshishxgaming5699
    @xshishxgaming5699 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Eugene totally sounds like he’s overflowing with joy

  • @LUSCIOUSDUNCAN
    @LUSCIOUSDUNCAN 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    i love when you can hear the caller breathing into their phone as if they're just huffing and puffing and pacing back and forth trying to come up with a way to rationalize their belief

  • @karldubhe8619
    @karldubhe8619 6 ปีที่แล้ว +417

    Raising the dead?
    Was he talking about taking Viagra?

    • @dfadden62
      @dfadden62 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Karl Dubhe LOL!!!

    • @rubyh1706
      @rubyh1706 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Dead 😄😄😄

    • @mpendulomahlangu4391
      @mpendulomahlangu4391 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lol!!!😂😂😂

    • @brownsense1
      @brownsense1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lol

    • @Gamer_G33k
      @Gamer_G33k 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Circle Jerk both physically and mentally

  • @aurorafrost288
    @aurorafrost288 6 ปีที่แล้ว +115

    If the Eden myth was real and not just a myth, then sin should have ended with Adam and Eve.
    Punishing billions who had nothing to do with the original "crime", is one of the most evil concepts ever imagined.

    • @Arkloyd
      @Arkloyd 6 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      I agree, punishing the innocent for the crimes of a previous generation is the height of evil.

    • @Spencerwalker21
      @Spencerwalker21 6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      According to Christianity a baby born out of rape is responsive for that crime sick

    • @aurorafrost288
      @aurorafrost288 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Oh yeah. And in addition to the original sin abomination in Jewish and Christian myths, there is also the sins of the father bullshit that is supposed to be passed down for 7 generations or some such nonsense.
      That would be like your grandpa getting convicted of a series of heinous crimes and receiving 8 consecutive life sentences. And since he could only serve one, then your dad would then have to fill in for him for the second sentence, you fill in for the third, and onward until all 8 have been served.
      No one in their right mind would find such a penal system in the real world acceptable. Why the fuckity fuck do they think that is acceptable in their religion? ( to roughly borrow a sentiment from DarkMatter2525)

    • @tryintoreason9738
      @tryintoreason9738 6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      It's even worse than that. According to the Genesis account, God created Adam and Eve without the capacity to understand the concept of sin. They had no "knowledge of good and evil" and yet he killed them and condemned their progeny to eternal torment due to choices they were not even aware they were making.

    • @johnh226
      @johnh226 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      You are not being punished for Adam's disobedience per se. We have just inherited a sinful nature. The punishment any unbeliever receives will be because of their own sin.

  • @beausting
    @beausting 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    *Gets insulted and called swine
    Eric: I just want to say, I ADORE this conversation
    Every..damn..time hahaha

  • @erikvan9582
    @erikvan9582 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I admire these guys patience.I would have lost it with this guys marathon of circular reasoning

  • @danwic
    @danwic 6 ปีที่แล้ว +171

    So the pastor thinks that lying is a sin, yet he's lying through back teeth....

    • @MrXantrias
      @MrXantrias 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      If you have read the bible carefully and still believe in it, you are awful aswell. Maybe not in character, because people who believe can be good, but you may not have understood anything that is written in there at all. @ashleys religious videos

    • @MrXantrias
      @MrXantrias 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @Vincent Roche Where did I say that? I said that many passages in the bible are aweful. Everyone who cares to read the bible unbiased will undoubtely be aware of that fact. If you remain or turn into a believer after reading the bible, you are either awful aswell, or you pick and choose the good passages and only promote those. Either one is not a good reason to become or stay a believer.

    • @nuoiptertermer4484
      @nuoiptertermer4484 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @joshmbrown42 He said they raised the dead at his church. He knows they didn’t raise the dead, so he’s lying about that, at least.

    • @zackman1751
      @zackman1751 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      no, I don't think he's lying, people like the hovinds or ken ham they lie, no this guy is Unfortunately so indoctrinated and blinded by his dogma and his beliefs that he can't see logic or reason. unfortunately I think he is too far gone to be reasoned with its quite sad really

    • @revanche1431
      @revanche1431 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@joshmbrown42 I'd argue that it's a lie to spread an opinion as though it's life-changing truth without verifying it first.

  • @AGrayPhantom
    @AGrayPhantom 6 ปีที่แล้ว +160

    Is this what cognitive dissonance sounds like? When you can justify the lies and genocide committed by an alleged God, but condemn those same actions if done by a person?

    • @davidroberts1689
      @davidroberts1689 6 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      You are correct, Eugene seems to have a bad case of cognitive dissonance. I believe it is because he was abused in his childhood to believe in hell, heaven and a just god that condemns us.

    • @davidroberts1689
      @davidroberts1689 6 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      I believe AGrayPhantom is referring to the genocide committed by the god of the Israelites during the exodus and reconquering of the promised land. Good and evil can be judged by the harm they do or the help they do to others. This is not absolute or objective, just as the morals given from the bible and religion are not absolute or objective. The religious get around the Bible by telling us we are not interpreting it correctly. That is a big cop-out. The Bible says what it says. It is simplistic for a simplistic people working in the bronze age. I hope you've noticed my explanation of good and evil was ontological, showing the relations between the concepts and categories in a subject area.

    • @Gumpmachine1
      @Gumpmachine1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Bluemonsoon newflash christians don’t have the objective moral foundation they think they do either.

    • @charlidog2
      @charlidog2 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Bluemonsoon I'm confused. You're advocating as objective morality things like slavery, torture, holding children responsible for their parent's crimes. The murder of innocent children, not stepping in to stop child abuse, and so much more. Your moral standards are for shit. You don't get to lie and imply they aren't.

    • @crackedhands
      @crackedhands 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Bluemonsoon, drowning an entire generation of innocent infants and children for the misdemeanor of their horrible parents, with foreknowledge that you would do so even before their creation, is genocide. Call it what you wish, forget that it is said to have happened, say that it was a loving thing to do, spin it however you want, it is the definition of genocide.

  • @3X73RM
    @3X73RM หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    "Yeah, he knew we were going to have this conversation and yet didn't provide you with better responses" 😂😂
    That is genuinely S tier roasting 😂

  • @DimiShimi
    @DimiShimi 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    He says that "we all sin" with such a passion that there is no doubt in my mind that his sins are pretty serious.

  • @lukeproud6393
    @lukeproud6393 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Every time someone like this comes on, you can tell by the giddy smiles that they are going to have a field day

  • @kwolf43
    @kwolf43 6 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    So he called the show just to insult the hosts by calling them swine, I thought Jesus was love LMAO.

    • @smackfanxion
      @smackfanxion 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Um... he didnt exactly do that and hesitated to clarify that its what he thought of them even when asked.

    • @user-gb7ji6xy5d
      @user-gb7ji6xy5d 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@smackfanxion Doesn't matter. Slip of tongue is usually the real thought, not self-editing. Especially NOT self-editing AFTER the words are spoken and the damage made. The moment he spontaneously compare other humans to swine for not subscribing to his beliefs, he has proven himself to be an awful human being.

    • @smackfanxion
      @smackfanxion 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@user-gb7ji6xy5d
      This is way to old for me to care about most of it but "Slip of tongue is usually the real thought"
      ...?
      On what planet are you living? 100% or the people Iv known in my life speak more than they think. Myself included. The best of us review what we say and correct etc etc but the reason we correct something we say is because it doesnt accurately reflect our thoughts.

    • @blazerdude89
      @blazerdude89 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@smackfanxion Bull fucking shit.

    • @blazerdude89
      @blazerdude89 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@smackfanxion your thought process is exactly why I don't care about "I'm sorry's" because it doesn't mean shit. If you were truly sorry you wouldn't have done/said it in the first place. Saying sorry is admittance to being a piece of shit and your asking the person to forgive your shitienes.

  • @creativepseudonym9872
    @creativepseudonym9872 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "I know that's not real because a ghost told me." Brilliant, Eugene.

  • @ayokryss
    @ayokryss 4 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Lmaooo “defeated” atheists ...... sure ya’ did, sir

  • @losttribe3001
    @losttribe3001 6 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    I’m playing Final Fantasy 7 and I just raised Tifa from the dead using a Phoenix Down...resurrection happens and I CAN prove it. But seriously, I’m surprised that they let that one slide.

    • @krishnav5122
      @krishnav5122 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Because they knew it only goes back to old arguments of "faith" among other non-sensical roads. At the end, clearly he was cornered about god being an unjust character, he still couldn't answer that honestly. There isn't much point about asking him about resurrection. That would be a wild goose chase.

    • @BaronVonQuiply
      @BaronVonQuiply 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Careful though, for some reason items don't work if you get injured in a FMV cutscene.

    • @bpdmf2798
      @bpdmf2798 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Save the titties as triangular as they are.

    • @Unstottsable
      @Unstottsable 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      😂😂😂😂

    • @ajlawless7937
      @ajlawless7937 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      they arent very good at pinning people against their words

  • @OverlordShamala
    @OverlordShamala 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    My experience of a church pastor or priest "defeating" an atheist is simply preaching at the pulpit & not confronting any at all. Essentially _preaching at the choir,_ lobbing insults & cursing them as the _choir_ applaud or shout utterations like _"Amen!!",_ _"Praise the Lord!",_ or _"Jesus saves!"_

  • @obsidianthurisaz5106
    @obsidianthurisaz5106 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    His answer to the problem of evil is essentially "in order to appreciate all the times I'm not beating you, I need to beat you first."

  • @jiwillis76
    @jiwillis76 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I really commend you all for the way you handled the Pastor. I would not have been so kind and patient.......

  • @nathanduclos5045
    @nathanduclos5045 6 ปีที่แล้ว +145

    this is horrible to watch. . . every time he gets to a point where he doesnt like he goes side way and starts to preach. .

    • @cush6827
      @cush6827 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Religion in a nutshell

    • @kurokoro
      @kurokoro 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      They go into "gibberish mode" as soon as they cant answer,if they cant answer just say it dont start doing a misfit cause you didnt understand it.

    • @Godslayer1975
      @Godslayer1975 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      whats worse is how they do shit they let him walk all over them this show is sad another sponcerd nazi joke put out by nazi scum of ACA.

    • @CaptainKylan
      @CaptainKylan 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@Godslayer1975 How often do people tell you to get psychiatric help?

    • @tonymitchell8563
      @tonymitchell8563 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Baseless assertions. His supporting evidence?
      More baseless assertions.

  • @davesmith7993
    @davesmith7993 5 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    I can't believe Eugene has 8 people who can actually tolerate his droning on with his depressing "we are all pathetic, sick and damaged goods" with a fatal prognosis, of course unless we grovel to his particular unsubstantiated deity in hope of being cured. "Eternal salvation ...or triple your money back."

  • @HarbingerOfBattle
    @HarbingerOfBattle 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    My journey to disbelief started when I was a kid. I went to a Vatican 2 catholic school and had religion classes every day as well as a high grade standard in all subjects including science. One day this little thought popped into my head ‘How do we know Jesus was really the son of god and not just some guy with delusions of grandeur?’ It was funny at the time, but as time went on it started coming up more and more frequently. Once every other year, every year, a few times a year, once a month, so on and so forth. The more I learned in all my other school subjects the more the answer seemed to be ‘nobody knows at all.’ By my sophomore or junior year of high school I suddenly realized I was deconverting...and I didn’t mind.

  • @Tomoose736
    @Tomoose736 4 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    It blows my mind that a person can live their entire lives studying the Bible and they never think to ask these questions.

    • @trailman20
      @trailman20 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      There told since they was very little to never question anything it says

    • @Authenticallyathena
      @Authenticallyathena ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Curiosity is removed by shame very early. Once thats gone its a lot easier to avoid questions. I remember as a kid being told my faith wasn't strong enough any time i had questions. I quit asking but kept my curiosity anyway, so as an adult I started asking again.😊

  • @OCDTraci
    @OCDTraci 6 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Can I just say. I am a "conflicted" Christian (and it scares me to say that, yes) but I greatly appreciate Eric and Jaime's calm, kind demeanors. You two are very relatable and I look forward to more of your content. Subbed!

    • @primordialsky7221
      @primordialsky7221 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      At least your not just listening to preachers and actually going to atheist media to learn, from atheists, their position.

    • @yarnpower
      @yarnpower 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It is a journey to really look at long held religious beliefs critically and logically. Take comfort in the fact that you are not alone.

    • @dearden6680
      @dearden6680 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Hi Traci. I read your comment and wanted to check how you are doing now (since it says you commented a year ago). I hope you have worked through it into a better place.

    • @OCDTraci
      @OCDTraci 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@dearden6680 Hey there, thank you for checking on me! Well I'm definitely not a Christian anymore; but I guess I'd call myself agnostic since I can't quiiiiite let go of the belief in a God. I plan on calling the AXP again one of these sundays! :D

    • @kathryngeeslin9509
      @kathryngeeslin9509 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@OCDTraci Thank you for the update! It's good to hear from you, and to hear good news. I wish you well going forward.

  • @Balthazzarr
    @Balthazzarr 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    16:21 "There must be a balance."
    Thanos...is that you?

  • @like2btree
    @like2btree 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "He knew we would have this conversation, yet didn't supply you with better responses."
    😂😂😂😂😂

  • @aierce
    @aierce 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What a master of changing the subject whenever the conversation gets tough.

  • @markborder906
    @markborder906 6 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I wonder if he knows that Mithras also allegedly rose from the dead after 3 days.

    • @francelaferriere6106
      @francelaferriere6106 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      To be fair, it was on the third day, not 3 days later. So he was actually dead for let's say, a day and a half, maybe?

  • @badatheist9948
    @badatheist9948 6 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    the bible is right because the bible is right

    • @bdDonkey
      @bdDonkey 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Or because it says that it's right?

  • @VoxClementia92
    @VoxClementia92 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    It will never not be sad to hear grown adults talking about magic and invisible friends

  • @Aramakie98
    @Aramakie98 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is a perfect call: the caller's 'don't mean to be condescending' but believes he is talking to the 'swine,' the hosts holding his feet to the fire and making him accountable to his statements, and the challanges given to the caller...

  • @6chhelipilot
    @6chhelipilot 5 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    He wants us all to live in a celestial N.Korea.

    • @denbecr49
      @denbecr49 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      - C.H.

  • @NeoRipshaft
    @NeoRipshaft 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    There was one little moment near the end that made me so happy - when he had a very clear hesitation, where he was seriously entertaining the idea and what follows from it...
    I realize the subsequent affirmation of atrocity took the attention after that, but don't forget that little moment - there was real, substantive thinking happening in that moment.

  • @spyder4201
    @spyder4201 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Whoo! 12:20 "is there anything that someone could do to you that you would subject them to enteral torment? YOU Eugene?" Best line EVER!!!! 13:28 Bring it home. Is the torment worse than hell? "no." Would you wish that on anyone? "no." then you are more moral than your god.
    This is why I still listen to you and continue to find my knowledge with your help.

  • @adolfosalani1
    @adolfosalani1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I really admire how these guys can keep their shit together. infinite patience.

  • @SlicksterUK
    @SlicksterUK 6 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Guys, I absolutely loved this video.
    You both remained patient and calm despite Eugene's clear contradictions and evasiveness. You asked clear, simple questions with an obvious conclusion yet Eugene still avoided that conclusion somehow.
    However, some of his long silent pauses make me hope that Eugene may actually *think* about some of the questions you asked and it is refreshing to come across a Christian who is prepared to reason as Eugene did.
    It would be great to watch more interactions with theists like this one and I've subscribed as I'm really hoping Eugene will call back.
    Love your work guys. Thank you. 👍

  • @jeremykientz
    @jeremykientz 6 ปีที่แล้ว +182

    8 congregates? Really? This guy is the leader of a cult 🙄

    • @megamus3
      @megamus3 6 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      JT all religions are cults dude, check out the definition.

    • @peppertalks6948
      @peppertalks6948 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I’ll bet they are all his family members.

    • @SlXkxmx
      @SlXkxmx 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Compared to all the other christian pastors?

    • @IanD-ut4dy
      @IanD-ut4dy 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly what I was thinking lol

    • @flyingdog1498
      @flyingdog1498 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not a cult a Circle Jerk.

  • @carlpen850
    @carlpen850 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I find it interesting that Eugene considers his turd balls as pearls... a little bit arrogant of him isn't it

  • @SoftBank47
    @SoftBank47 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Take a drink every time Eugene starts a sentence with, "Well..."
    You'll either be drunk or going to the bathroom every 5 minutes by the end of this video. ^_~

  • @michaelmccarthy4077
    @michaelmccarthy4077 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    "I'm a pastor of a small congregation of eight members....raising the dead"
    Isn't necromancy considered witchcraft?

    • @shapeless6755
      @shapeless6755 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Brah sorceries and miralces are TOTALLY diffrent things: Ask Dark Souls

    • @_Somsnosa_
      @_Somsnosa_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@shapeless6755 Lord Gwyn would kick the shit out of Yahweh.

    • @twcnz3570
      @twcnz3570 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@_Somsnosa_ Thor may have. Still got the hammer!!

  • @daviddunlap3968
    @daviddunlap3968 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    That logical argument about free will in heaven made me deconvert. Cool to see it brought up.

  • @DrZZZee
    @DrZZZee 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Caller: you are swine
    Eric: thanks for being kind
    Priceless.

  • @mtnbiker014
    @mtnbiker014 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    After listening to Paster Eugene I understand why his congregation consists of a total of 8 members. I wonder what his day job is since he can’t live off donations from 8 people. Home Depot maybe?

    • @heroinmom153
      @heroinmom153 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      At least Home Depot is honest work, unlike pastoring

    • @francisbawasanta6310
      @francisbawasanta6310 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Makes you wonder (let's say out of the hundreds of candidates for his congregation) what made this crazy 8 decide that Eugene was a thoughtful enough guy and had the expertise to lead them. These 8 must be special... lol. Short bus special.

    • @tranquil2706
      @tranquil2706 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Well, he can depend on always having the eight, because if they die he can bring them back.

  • @peppertalks6948
    @peppertalks6948 6 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I would’ve liked to hear more about the dead people he brought back.

    • @pterafirma
      @pterafirma 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Clearly, his god doesn't raise the brain-dead.

    • @nuoiptertermer4484
      @nuoiptertermer4484 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Pepper Talks There were no dead people brought back. Some Christians resort to lying to try to convert people.

    • @anonymousjohnson976
      @anonymousjohnson976 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      nucipter termer: As well as to further their own agenda.

  • @devimon
    @devimon 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    burning to eternity is JUST... thanks god!

  • @SalisburyKarateClub
    @SalisburyKarateClub 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    If you talk to a theist, once they get called out on something they immediately change subjects. Keep them on topic, don't let them go.

  • @aierce
    @aierce 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like this guy, he really is sincere, polite and mostly honest. I think calling in made him realize a lot of his own logical inconsistencies in his own religious views.

  • @277878277878
    @277878277878 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This video is total entertainment. I have to admit Eugene caused me to feel so sick at my stomach. I was blown away by how Jamie and Eric handled this guy!

  • @Torwyn11
    @Torwyn11 6 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    He can't be anything but just? So, that means he can't be merciful - which is the suspension of justice. So much for heaven.

  • @joerobertson7887
    @joerobertson7887 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Another one in love with the sound of his own voice.

  • @arifsaleem5467
    @arifsaleem5467 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Eternal punishment is not justice, it's revenge.

  • @raymondwalker3839
    @raymondwalker3839 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I know both hosts from my time at the library. They are great. Indeed. And as an atheist listening to their dialogue helps me with my daily talk with theist people. Thanks guys. I've got your back. Take care.

  • @aralitra
    @aralitra 6 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    The very first sentences this guy said and the self-righteous stance, as though he had the right to cast insults in a passive-aggressive because he believes 100% he is a greater person than these guys, could have been written for my him by my father. He tried to argue god with me once, it was highly entertaining.

    • @MrTheclevercat
      @MrTheclevercat 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@arachnipope They do that until you put them in their place. They stop lecturing you on religion when you start giving them a world of shit every time they bring it up. Keep calling their conclusions "retarded" and that you think they might actually be retarded. They'll stop.

  • @johnsperry9494
    @johnsperry9494 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Sin is an artificial disease, made to sell you an imaginary cure.

  • @Xerion1
    @Xerion1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The fiery furnace analogy had me dying because he couldn't be logically consistent 😂

  • @Jeff_Vader
    @Jeff_Vader 6 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    "The argument goes something like this: 'I refuse to prove that I exist,' says God, 'for proof denies faith, and without faith, I am nothing.' 'But, says Man, the Babel fish is a dead giveaway, isn't it? It could not have evolved by chance. It proves you exist, and, by your own arguments, you don't. QED.' 'Oh dear,' says God, 'I hadn't thought of that,' and vanishes in a puff of logic. 'Oh, that was easy,' says Man, and for an encore goes on to prove that black is white and gets himself killed on the next zebra crossing.

    • @sarahhardy8649
      @sarahhardy8649 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Gotta love Douglas Adams.

    • @johnmorris2170
      @johnmorris2170 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Love that Douglas Adams.

    • @jpgduff
      @jpgduff 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You see *that's* a book worth reading. Thank the universe for Douglas Adams 👍

  • @PhrontDoor
    @PhrontDoor 6 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Ah... calling that stuff pearls is like polishing feces.

  • @revanche1431
    @revanche1431 4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    TH: "So how do you know the bible is true"
    Pastor: "Well because of the holy spirit"
    TH: "How do you know the holy spirit exists?
    Pastor: "Well the bible says he does"
    2 minutes later
    Pastor: "What I'm saying is Dishonesty, Deception, Bearing False Witness; these are sins."
    You're a hypocrite, pastor.

  • @josephine4s
    @josephine4s ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really wish that our hosts gave him the time to try to further explain how athiests are blocked from Belief by sin while he, while someone who sins, is somehow immune.

  • @dickenya3278
    @dickenya3278 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I've always felt like God is a narcissist. It's like, if you don't love me and believe in my book, I swear I'll burn you forever! Yet these people call him a loving God? Surely none of us would burn someone forever, right? So if we're made in the image of God, why is he more violent than we are? This has always baffled my mind.

  • @stevevallance6326
    @stevevallance6326 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You guys are doing a great job. I really believe open information will help the next generation reject these silly myths

  • @brandonobaza8610
    @brandonobaza8610 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sounds like he's talking through clenched teeth. "Jezhush Chrisht izh rizhen from the djead."

  • @Sekhubara
    @Sekhubara 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Im still waiting for the answer to the question: "If you claim that we all sin, why does my sin cause me to not believe while your sin doesn't?"

  • @matthewclark1006
    @matthewclark1006 6 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    This is almost sad

    • @derwolf9670
      @derwolf9670 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Almost?

    • @georgeforeman9666
      @georgeforeman9666 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      MandelbrothFractal Killer
      Not all of America is this dumb. That becomes more prevalent as you get into the Bible Belt where in-breading has brought IQ's to a Dangerous low.
      And I don't think it is as much ignorance as it is arrogance. And that is sad

  • @gyrperegrine
    @gyrperegrine 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    great job guys, what a tap dancer.
    They sure like their poetry.

  • @justincredible.
    @justincredible. ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "....but he loves you" -George Carlin.

  • @MrDANGitall
    @MrDANGitall 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You dudes (people) are doing an OUTSTANDING service to humanity, and I fully appreciate it!!!
    Theists have dominated human thinking for many centuries! The problem is that non-theists don't have any sort of background reasoning to resort to when dealing with these indoctrinated people! Many thank-yous! Many....MANY thank-yous!!

  • @megamus3
    @megamus3 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Wilful ignorance is definitely a sin , so the pastor is right whenever he calls himself a "sinner". If you notice the religious are always very quick to call themselves sinners and this is because they NEVER fully follow their own holy books commands, so they have to drag everyone else to their hell with them, makes them feel better.

  • @thebitplanes8188
    @thebitplanes8188 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Actually, listening to this conversation start to finish leads me the the following conclusion. If Eugene's god exists and knows the outcome because it created all reality, the true goal of this god seems to be sending "souls" to some kind of eternal fuel processing facility. Needing to grow and then creating rules to harvest a resorce is really the most fitting explanation for the way Eugene says his God is operating.

  • @stevenwilhite4026
    @stevenwilhite4026 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You two make a great pair for talking to the delusional christians. You play off each other very well. I love the way you trip up these callers. Keep up the good work! 😊

  • @davids11131113
    @davids11131113 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ‘How did you encounter a dead body to pray over and resurrect in the first place?’
    ‘I will not cast pearls before swine, sir!’
    Wait, what??

  • @Expert1911
    @Expert1911 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I hope Eugene calls back. It sounds like these are the first few conversations where he is facing some of the logical problems he didn't notice. To his side, it is very hard to notice these when you grow up in an echo chamber that supports these ideas. It really is hard to notice these problems from the inside. Thanks for your time Eugene!

    • @digbycrankshaft7572
      @digbycrankshaft7572 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah thanks cult leader for leading people into lies and ignorance

  • @chubbyhippy
    @chubbyhippy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "You won't believe me because of your sin" 😆🤣😂

  • @KitPhuket-ix1en
    @KitPhuket-ix1en หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    " you're a sinner, im a sinner too. Your sin is keeping you from believing in gawd of the bable." Well he whooped two more atheist with that sound logic.

  • @ffsno9078
    @ffsno9078 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I'd like to see these 8 followers of his...are 7 of the 8 especially young looking females who may or may not have a missing posters somewhere...clothing that is uniformish....glazed expressions from drinking some holy koolaid maybe...I'm just saying, this guy's given off some Jim jones/David koresh vibes.

  • @belgarath6388
    @belgarath6388 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Jesus: Let me in
    Me: Why?
    Jesus: Because i'm here to save you.
    Me: From what?
    Jesus: From what i'm going to do to you unless you let me in.
    Not mine but sums it up pretty well i think.

    • @equinoxproject2284
      @equinoxproject2284 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not mine either, but I use it too. The classic mob boss Jesus.

  • @jeanetteyork2582
    @jeanetteyork2582 6 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    This reminds me of my previous life in a city by that name... Eugene is a city that's changed a lot over the past 30 years. The Baptist fundamentalists from the old near-separate state of Jefferson have moved up into Lane County...for one thing. Fundamentalism in Eugene is alive and well apparently...I disagree with the "pastor"...He claims all people "sin"...no. I don't. This is a claim that went unchallenged in the discussion. Sin is often defined as an offense against a presumed "god". If the pastor cannot demonstrate the existence of a "god", there is no "sin". Men like him threatened me as a child...until I learned that it is impossible to inherit responsibility for wrongdoing.
    BTW the bible states clearly that the "deity" invented evil.
    So the public can know it is not all ignorance, darkness and unthinking reliance on ancient literature in Lane County, there is also an excellent University of Oregon, in Eugene (sic) and the good Lane County Historical Society, among many others. I am a native of Klamath Falls and a fortunate graduate of the U of O.

    • @micahbinns2740
      @micahbinns2740 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I hate the "sin" word its soooo political....

    • @donmiller2908
      @donmiller2908 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you Jeanette. I found your comment insightful.

    • @anonymousjohnson976
      @anonymousjohnson976 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jeanette: Doesn't sin mean a breaking of the law? I don't believe in sin either. I believe in right and wrong and striving to do what is right and make wise choices.

  • @kellyrestiaux9846
    @kellyrestiaux9846 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When Eugene starts a reply with "Well,..." - you know he's stuck & working up a dodge.

  • @osmosis321
    @osmosis321 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Are you prepared to give the reason for the joy that you have found in your heart?"
    BAAAHHAHAHAHAA!! Good one.