Jamie and Matt seem to have completely opposite ways of talking to people which is fairly interesting. Matt goes straight to calling out the bullshit and Jamie wants to circumnavigate the bullshit to make them realize it’s bullshit.
They react to your presence, often to you speaking to them. They also are good when cooked, boiled, grilled, baked, roasted etc etc etc. Now, a tasty God is a great improvement over the current state of affairs with most Gods.
I have to say this guy is trying his best to be honestly open. But every minute a new apologist is born that thinks that "Its like the wind, you cannot see it but you can feel it"... And then they call Matt 😅... And want to give him "homework". If there's anything supernatural is Matt's patience after all this years.
The point at which I lost all respect for Juan is after Matt went into his whole heated yet candid explanation of why that homework was bullshit & why Lee Strobel is an ass, & Juan is just like "yeah I was just gonna say to watch that". He hadn't listened to any of it; he was just waiting for his turn to talk.
@@noracola5285 I think he was talking to the audience, not to Matt, at that point. He didn't care what Matt had to say, he just wanted to get the name out to get people to look at it.
@@noracola5285 I totally agree, organized religion is very dangerous. Being set free from religion and the lies of the enemy only comes from knowing the truth (Jesus Christ), being born of the Spirit (Holy Spirt) and sharing the Spirit of truth. There is only one Spirit of truth and to know him is to have/know hope. Atheists offer no hope, this world offers no hope, only death. No religion is needed to know Jesus Christ (truth). Just faith (believing), faith plus nothing. Without faith it is impossible to please God. The God of all creation.
Matt the fool! Mental matt the fool leading the foolish , I mean fearless atheist leader leading other atheist fools to hell! Jesus saves sinners! Now use that brain God gave you!
I would like to talk about MY relationship with Jesus for a bit. First of all, the guy's never home. He doesn't clean up or even help cleaning up, he doesn't do the dishes or help doing them, nothing of that sort. He doesn't even say when he's home so I could talk to him about the rent he's supposed to split with me. All in all it's a complete disaster. He has a lot of issues he has to work through until he's ready for a fully commited relationship, I think.
One of my old coworkers said (online) Jesus was really testing her patience, and someone else said "Well god works in mysterious ways, you have to trust he's testing you for a reason." She replied "Jesus is my 3yo toddler"
Mocking God and savior Jesus won't help your sad situation ! But reading the holy Bible and watching dean odles biblical flat earth presentation which is destroying atheists and globe beliefs will help you! Time for mental matt and atheists to get a new gig. Jesus saves sinners and fools like you!
A wife can love and feel loved by her husband who is plotting her murder. If someone can feel love that isn't there, they can feel loved by someone who isn't there as long as they believe they are.
Young children have a personal relationship with Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy. They even have hard evidence, presents on Christmas morning and money in place of a baby tooth.
“To someone with faith, no explanation is necessary. To someone without faith, no explanation is possible.” -- Thomas Aquinas. (Translation: If you’re gullible, you’ll believe it. If you require evidence, too bad, there isn’t any.)
I had a rich prince in South Africa use the same line when I said I wanted some evidence that he had 50 million dollars that he needed me to help him smuggle out of his country.
@@technomancermagus8357 … and yet there are real Nigerian princes. They usually do not ask you to do illegal things and try to suck all the money they can out of you, though, that’s more pretend princes …
"I don't go by any canon denomination or religious law, I just like to believe what I want and what I FEEL is right, and I pinky swear I know what Jesus is telling me, even if it it different from what he might say to other people". Come on
@@advorak8529mocking God and savior Jesus won't help your sad situation, but reading the holy bible and watching dean odles biblical flat earth presentation which destroys atheist beliefs and globe beliefs will save your soul if you repent. !Time to use your brian God gave you
Juan: "I've been touched by God!" Also Juan: "You can't physically test a spirit!" So, like, which is it, man? Either you can touch him or you can't. 🤣😂🤣😂
When are atheists going to demonstrate the prebiotic chemistry required for life? Just make carbon, nitrogen, oxygen, hydrogen, sulfur and phosphorus form a single protein or gene so I can be an intellectually satisfied atheist. Believe a human with X&Y chromosomes can get pregnant. Love includes men exchanging bodily fluids with other men...
What Matt went through with his parents and Lee Strobel is very similar with what I go through with mine. Instead of having honest and coherent conversations from both parties, they go to a priest every so often or on the weekends. And I know this because they’ll come back at me with irrational things that of which they couldn’t think for themselves otherwise and make our previous conversations pointless. I understand Matt’s frustration
welcome to my world. Here is what you need to do. Read the book with a critical mindset and even bookmark it to make it easier for you. Find all the horrible things that are said and make notes for yourself asking why....? Honestly, you don't have to actually read it these days. you can go online and find all the inconsistencies in your book. I was sat down in front of a priest and I had my ducks in a row. I started asking him the uncomfortable questions, to the point that I was told point blank that I should not be there if I think suck horrible things. I had to clarify every time telling him it wasn't I that thought that it was his book. He would try and tell me it was an allegory or that i didnt understand the context or something like that. Then I would put it on him asking why should I believe his interpretation over other people/religions who claim to be told by god that its different. LOL. I was kindly told that I should leave. you don't have to go to my extreme and go straight to the priest. but every time your parents say something, ask them to explain why their book says (insert horrible thing from the bible that directly contradicts whatever they tell you).
@@dj_menyo839 If only they gave logically honest responses to genuine questions. All I get is "That's demonic" and "I rebuke that". Even when it's from their own book.
My siblings and I spent our lives in catholic schools, not because we were catholic, but because the public schools in Detroit were awful (and particularly dangerous for white kids.) Nearly everybody in my school treated the god beliefs as a total joke. Most of the parents did not believe either, but the Moms enjoyed Wednesday Bingo, and the Dad's enjoyed the Friday night drinking bash. If asked the right questions, nearly all of these folks would realize that they are/were atheists. 40-50 years later, many of these folks still force their children through communion and confirmation, though none of them actually believe the fairy tales.
I cannot praise reality because of all the sh…t that happens in reality. But at least reality is consistent and the experiments are repeatable. Fantasy is much more fun, but alas, they all disagree with each other.
I understand having a strong desire or need for a daily escape from reality. That's why I play simulation games & build my own virtual worlds how I want them. What I don't understand is when people add another layer of escape and put churches into theirs. Also, mine isn't a permanent replacement for reality.
We come into the world godless, wordless, and totally amoral. We acquire these as inherited biases: someone else’s gods, someone else’s language, someone else’s expectations - passed on to us, without alternatives, while we were yet incapable of discrimination.
Hello, listen closely! The holy bible and dean odles biblical flat earth presentation destroys atheist beliefs and globe beliefs! Time to wake up atheists and fools! Time to get a new gig mental matt and atheists !Jesus saves sinners! Use the brain God gave you!
The monumental arrogance of a twenty three year old is just crazy. He literally gets on a phone call with a guy that is a professional debater who's been a public figure in this debate space for 20 years and thinks he doesn't know Lee Strobel and his work? I know I was probably this arrogant at that age but I hope I wasn't that dumb.
The moment he said he didn't know if Matt had ever had faith was the point where I knew exactly where this call was going to go. Trying to give out homework without having done his own in the first place before calling into a counter-apologetics show with an activist as steeped as Matt... Not a good idea. My inner NastyBastard wants to suggest he next try and engage Aron Ra about creationism and biology, but that would be too cruel. Funny, but cruel.
@@Mewse1203 Forrest on Evolution is great value for money. Forrest in general is great value for money. I've been giggling internally at his 'try not to laugh' vids all day today.
I am not convinced that God exists, and I am also not convinced that God does not exist, because I have not seen any convincing evidence to support either proposition. The reason I’m an Atheist rather than Theist is that, with my knowledge of Science and the Natural world, I have found that God is not necessary to explain anything. God is superfluous.
And yet da religious decepticons believers may never care and believe anyway guz fee fees or reality lol y iz it everytime I play videos like dis one a religious church preacher ad keeps popping up??? How longer will da bloody transformers war 🔴⚛️⚔️✝️☪️🟣 go still in dis generation??? Another day today at still war with these people ✝️☪️🟣🟣🟣🟣
@@blond7899exactly, that’s why the idea of gods were created in the first place. But what you’re doing is called the god of the gaps fallacy. Just because we don’t know doesn’t mean a god did it.
Poor little sucker thought the all great and powerful would never make him look like a poor little dishonest trick. Probably thinking a Apologist might not be such a great idea in the future but they are all the same dishonest ... Being a believer for 30 years and my faith is becoming 1half of Zero after this.
"Oh, but there's evidence for Gods existence! There are so many things!" “There's...... uhh......... I have feelings, saw God’s face and I talk to him!” Every fucking time. GMAFB
I got nothing. That's right. You got nothing. Well, I have feelings. That's right. That's what they are. My feelings are real. That's right. But they're not reality.
Can feelings create the universe, earth and everything we see ? No they can not. Can feelings even exist absent of a mind ? no they can not. Can a mind exist absent of a brain ? no it can not. Theres no part of any claim around god that conforms to reality.
The Jesus story just happened to have that magic element that fits the psychological trap that is so easy to fall into, like the guy said, it was based on emotion, many many people really really want to beleive in the God delusion and all you have to do is fall for it, abandon logic and reason and live in an emotional fantasy where Gods or Christs or prophets love you, you get a massive feeling of not being alone in life and that you are special but its imaginary.
They always show up with such confidence, probably believing the spirit of their God will speak wisdom that the hosts have never heard; only to realize their arguments aren't new and have long been rationally refuted.
Oh boy, I tagged the exact same moment. It was hilarious that none of the three people involved even bothered to mark this turning point in the conversation.
Also, this isn't a good cop bad cop scenario. This is a very patient cop trying to tug very lightly on the leash of a cop ready to blow his top because he's had to do this same thing too often and is sick of having his time wasted. It's pretty clear that the two of them know who's in which role and that adds to their dynamic. If only this caller had done a little homework, such as watch a few previous shows before calling in.
If someone in any sphere of life claimed to have a relationship with an imaginary friend who talked to them, they would be put in a mental institutution, unless they were religious.
not exactly. i have imaginary friends and i do not have schizophrenia and i haven't been put in a mental institute. its a coping skill i developed out of trauma. but its the same idea as a god. believing in a god is not schizophrenic, it isn't hearing voices, it's playing pretend as a grown up. it's a coping skill. it takes courage to live choose to recognize when you're playing pretend and choose to live in reality instead. the religious choose to continue to play pretend and hide it from themselves because they lack the courage and belief in themselves that they can handle reality alone.
I'm pretty sure I don't want to worship a God that needs to kill an innocent man, no matter how long, in order to forgive multitudes of guilty men, and somehow believes that's just.
Saying that you have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ is like a stalker saying that they have a personal relationship with a fictional celebrity. But what I want to know is why so many Christians are against gay marriage and polyamory when they all are supposedly in a relationship with Jesus.
lol well done Matt on the Lee Strobel section, look, these guys are like me putting out a reward for a guitar i had stolen years ago, and them turning up to claim the reward just by telling me what kind of guitar it was! ;)
If I had a relationship with my wife like this guy "has a relationship" with Jesus - she would divorce me because I would never share my feelings with her, share how my day is going, tell her what I am doing tomorrow, directly bring her flowers, do anything as a couple with her and anyone else, take out the garbage, do any house work, call her on the phone, send her cards, tell her she was heard etc. - and she would be justified.
"I will help you have faith. Then you must listen to me and do everything I tell you to do and never question me or my motives. You must hate those people that I hate and love only those people that I say you can love. You must live your life only in those ways that I give you permission to do. All this in the name of my god. And most important, you must give me some of your money. This is the religion I have faith in and what I want you to have also."
I have non reciprocal non tangible relationship with a guy that was nailed to two sticks a couple thousand years ago because he helps me find my car keys. 🙄
I remember when I looked forward to Sundays, because of the original hosts of Talk Heathen and Atheist Experience. Then a new generation took over. Now I'm once again as excited about Sunday as when I was a Catholic kid😪
How to find your faith again: 1. Go to the last place you'd look its probably there 2. Check under the couch 3. Find wherever lost socks go and check there
"I have no evidence for Jesus, it is impossible to have evidence, and I only believe that I have a relationship with Him on faith" "Oh, and here is homework that will convince you of the evidence for Jesus"
Surely these callers must have looked at the show and watched it closely, never seem to take on board listen to the answers provided in previous shows.
@@skindred1888 He wasn't mean and loud.... just really, really, dumb. I literally gave the guy a wall of text trying to explain a really, really, simple instruction, and I basically realized I was talking with someone who evolution failed..... badly.
Thanks, Matt, for making this episode worth watching. I enjoy the ones where we don't get bogged down for hours on the audience proselytizing. I think Taylor Swift would love you, Matt, because she is reasonable, and that's a reasonable conclusion.
Jamie Boone is really nice, I think Matt has been doing this for too long and is already tired of it. Having said that I always have a crack watching him getting so upset
Damn I feel for this guy, because he has somehow managed to believe in God with the idea that he has sufficient evidence rather than actually having sufficient evidence BUT he was either dishonest or what I think its actually his case, he is too far indoctrinated that he is the type of person to say "just believe & believe & have faith until you believe again". That or he is too thick & cannot ever listen to the other side, he just hears them. I hope he can re-listen to this conversation when he is actually in a spot in his life where he no longer has special pleading & had the ability to actually process what Matt & Jamie are saying. Best of luck to all, stay happy & smile, be nice to others because it costs nothing & last of all enjoy life, learn more & don't waste the time we have whilst alive on this beautiful planet :)
When a person says, ‘I believe the Bible is true and was written by the people who lived through those events’, I’d have to ask, “are you aware that even the Bible/Church don’t make the claim that any version of the Bible was actually written by Jesus or any of the Apostles, even though some of the Testaments are attributed to them? So frustrating to hear these people who call in saying they’re going to give “evidence” to prove to a rational skeptic, of the existence of a God, and they proceed to spend 30 minutes talking about faith and feelings and hypotheticals and scripture, and all the BS, none of which, by their own eventual admissions, constitutes “evidence”!!!
"I have a feeling what proves to me that god is real." "For other people to accept that god is real needs to have that feeling too." With this effort, i can replace god in both sentences with anything i want.
@@schmetterling4477 Yes, it is simple, people believe in anything if they think that in return they get what they desire. The more they desire something, the easier it is to convince them to believe in something and promise them that they get what they desire. It works in all age groups. Basiacally politicians and priests are both promising something and their job is to convince people that for supporting their agendas people get their wishes granted. If an adult can belive that a politician is a honest representative of the interest of the voters without realizing that the real interest of the voters is not represented by any politicians then we should not be surprised that people can be convinced to believe in anything.
@@schmetterling4477 I can make you pretend to belive that Santa Claus will bring you a pony when you are with your 4 years old child and wife and we have a conversation and your wife tells you that dont crush the hopes of your child because your child will be motivated to act good if he/she believes in Santa Claus. God, Santa Claus, the president, they dont have to be real to inspire people to act good, they just need to represent values.
@@LordLemoncake I was approx. 4 years old when my Dad told me that he had been on a field research trip to the Amazon where he was wresting with a boa constrictor. My Dad won the fight, of course. No snakes were hurt in the making of that tale. My reaction was "Dad, you are a liar.". It's one of my first memories. Not all children are as stupid as you were when you were 24. ;-)
"I don't want this to turn into some kind of back and forth where we cut each other off...." Guess what....if you refuse to answer the simple and direct questions that have been put to you.....and instead try to move past the question by constructing a new statement or new argument that rests entirely upon a fallacious premise.....you gonna get cut off. Moreover, once you've admitted there CAN BE NO EVIDENCE for god then what else is there to say? You've just admitted you have no good reasons for thing you say you believe.....
this is so bizarre. If I said I have a personal relationship with Santa, or the easter bunny, or more succinctly zeus or shango, what would be the christians's response use. I would guess they would be skeptical or say I was flat out delusional. Well?
I usually point out to them that if I claimed that my neighbor Lorry Hunstetter resurrects people two or three times a week, then they would either ask me for evidence or call me crazy. I then tell them that I am merely returning the favor in case of their Jesus. I have not gotten a rational response to that even once. People mostly go radio-silent or they break out in random bible quoting madness. ;-)
Let's face it - most people's religious beliefs are cultural rather than rational. People tend to believe what their family and community believe. Once individuals start to examine their beliefs rationally, they tend to become atheists. Community and family pressures to conform are strong but are not a path to reality.
I can see now why Matt needed to move onto his own show. Not enough people are hard-line skeptics. This specific episode is the evidence of his reasons and need.
So do I. God told me in a church that he wasn't there when I was eight years old. Haven't seen him since. Not that I have seen him before, either. I had only seen weird old people who kept talking about him in strange ways. It always seemed a bit surreal. ;-)
They come with the arrogance "I am going to help you to find your faith again" and then,they go down in flames, because iti is probably the first that their believes are trully challend.
In the words of The Austin Lounge Lizards "I can't go back to Nashville Tennessee 'cause that's a place that I've never been." Since I am a life long atheist, I've never been anything else, so this guy will have a very hard time bringing me back where I've never been.
Our family has been extremely fortunate to grow without any pressure to believe in “gods”. Both my wife’s parents and grandparents were strongly atheist. I’m Norwegian born, my wife Swiss ~ both highly secular countries. In Norway, only a small part of the population is christian. Except for muslims, only some 3% of our population, mainly the elderly, attend any kind of religious gathering as regularly as once monthly. Both I and our Norwegian born young daughters were/are protected from being exposed to religious indoctrination at school. It’s been a crime for over 30 years here to expose children to the bible in their schools. Finding anyone of Norwegian ancestry under the age of 35 who believes in “gods” would be like searching for hens’ teeth. Never having been indoctrinated either as child or adult, I find the arrogance of Juan,in boasting that he can introduce anybody to his imaginary sky fairy, to be staggering. I for one have no interest whatever in his delusions.
Get this. My mother is Norwegian, born in Trondheim in 1954, came to the US in 1971 where she met and married my father (they're still alive and married to this day, though my father has had enough of her), had 3 children . She's like every other Norwegian I've ever met or known in most respects except when it comes to Christianity. She is a ZEALOT. A firm believer in the God of Abraham and an unquestioning member of a Wisconsin synod Evangelical Lutheran church. She raised us children to believe and follow the same and sent us to Lutheran schools, insisted upon it. She was not influenced by the prolific nature of Christianity in America, she brought her extreme zealous faith in God and Jesus from her home country. Which I find bizarre, as Norway is not a heavily religious country and was not especially religious when she lived there. I met a Lutheran minister in Norway once who told me he was atheist
@@imvandenh In the pre enlightenment days prior to the religious indoctrination of our children in our schools was made a crime, belief in imaginary sky fairies was as common here as anywhere. Indoctrination affects some people more severely than others. I find nothing remarkable in christian clergy admitting to being atheist. In our experience, it isn’t rare. I too find it bizarre that she would become a zealot in Trondheim, especially given her young age when she left. I’ve never met a native Norwegian who could be described as a zealot. Your mother left a long time before my wife or I were born.
We never got to hear how this chap believed he was going to bring the presenters back to God but I'm guessing it was along the lines of, "Pray the Sinner's Prayer with an open mind and God will answer it and you will feel what I feel". I prayed that prayer over and over again over the course of forty years and I never felt the presence of God. Why, then, would my experience be less valid than his?
I became atheist in a church during a late afternoon mass when I was eight years old. The priest was going through the motions, the three old ladies who were there with me had nothing else in their lives and an eight year old boy had an epiphany that god wasn't there. It was just a cold, empty building and a meaningless magic show.
Honestly he was a really nice guy 😄. All of us ex believers probably relate with him on some level when we used to evangelize. Unfortunately awkward conflict is inevitable if you call into an atheist show, especially to a smart guy like Matt, he probably should have anticipated that better
I absolutely despise Christians saying they have a personal relationship with Jesus. No, they have, at best, a personal relationship with an idea. I can say all day I have a personal relationship with Emily Blunt. But that would be a lie. I have never met her. And no Christian alive in the last 1900 years ever met Jesus.
Good luck bringing me back 😂😂😂. Ive never been a Christian, grew up in a secular country and a secular household. There's nothing to bring me back from cos I've never believed in any deities.
This guy references the case for christ totally oblivious to how unreasonable thay is, its amazing, i kinda think he is a troll cause who would reference fucking lee strobel to matt, its wild, but he also seems pretty genuine, its really sad if he is for real
He's young, he's basically just opened the door to the outside world, everything is new to him & so far he's seen no reason not to assume it's all just as new to everyone else.
The fact that this guy never used Reddit is evidence that he has indeed been blessed by God.
😂
That is the best evidence for God that has ever been presented on this channel and it has me dying 🤣 💀
Lmao goddamn
Lucky bastard
😂😂
“I came here to bring you back to faith.”
(a few minutes later)
“I have the slight feeling that my ideas were bulldozed.”
Just in case you were hoping: I did read that parenthesis section with the SpongeBob voice
You can't bulldoze assertions and unfounded claim's.
Well he is a " Jesus Stalker" 😅
Matt’s reactions are priceless. His frustration is very relatable
Jamie and Matt seem to have completely opposite ways of talking to people which is fairly interesting. Matt goes straight to calling out the bullshit and Jamie wants to circumnavigate the bullshit to make them realize it’s bullshit.
When you listen to believers push the same PRATT's for years anyone would get frustrated.
@@Pikkabuu lol so true. Matt is who Jamie will be in a couple decades lol
Ive had really good experiences by pouring out my heart to cows. They are really good at listening.
Me too! With evidence they care! Lol
They react to your presence, often to you speaking to them.
They also are good when cooked, boiled, grilled, baked, roasted etc etc etc. Now, a tasty God is a great improvement over the current state of affairs with most Gods.
_mooooooo_
"Hmmm yes i see."
_chomp on grass_
"You got all the answers bertha"
Theres some evidence cows exist
Lay down still, eyes closed in a cow field for a five minutes. Then open your eyes. Cows are awesome.
I have to say this guy is trying his best to be honestly open.
But every minute a new apologist is born that thinks that "Its like the wind, you cannot see it but you can feel it"... And then they call Matt 😅... And want to give him "homework".
If there's anything supernatural is Matt's patience after all this years.
The point at which I lost all respect for Juan is after Matt went into his whole heated yet candid explanation of why that homework was bullshit & why Lee Strobel is an ass, & Juan is just like "yeah I was just gonna say to watch that". He hadn't listened to any of it; he was just waiting for his turn to talk.
@@noracola5285 I think he was talking to the audience, not to Matt, at that point. He didn't care what Matt had to say, he just wanted to get the name out to get people to look at it.
@@fang_xianfu Exactly.
@@noracola5285 I totally agree, organized religion is very dangerous. Being set free from religion and the lies of the enemy only comes from knowing the truth (Jesus Christ), being born of the Spirit (Holy Spirt) and sharing the Spirit of truth. There is only one Spirit of truth and to know him is to have/know hope. Atheists offer no hope, this world offers no hope, only death. No religion is needed to know Jesus Christ (truth). Just faith (believing), faith plus nothing. Without faith it is impossible to please God. The God of all creation.
Matt the fool! Mental matt the fool leading the foolish , I mean fearless atheist leader leading other atheist fools to hell! Jesus saves sinners! Now use that brain God gave you!
That 5 seconds of silence after you demolish his belief system was heavenly.
I would like to talk about MY relationship with Jesus for a bit.
First of all, the guy's never home. He doesn't clean up or even help cleaning up, he doesn't do the dishes or help doing them, nothing of that sort. He doesn't even say when he's home so I could talk to him about the rent he's supposed to split with me.
All in all it's a complete disaster. He has a lot of issues he has to work through until he's ready for a fully commited relationship, I think.
And his stupid friends keep coming over uninvited at the worst possible times.
One of my old coworkers said (online) Jesus was really testing her patience, and someone else said "Well god works in mysterious ways, you have to trust he's testing you for a reason." She replied "Jesus is my 3yo toddler"
Mocking God and savior Jesus won't help your sad situation ! But reading the holy Bible and watching dean odles biblical flat earth presentation which is destroying atheists and globe beliefs will help you! Time for mental matt and atheists to get a new gig. Jesus saves sinners and fools like you!
A wife can love and feel loved by her husband who is plotting her murder.
If someone can feel love that isn't there, they can feel loved by someone who isn't there as long as they believe they are.
Excellent point
1st agreed 2nd wha??
Young children have a personal relationship with Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy. They even have hard evidence, presents on Christmas morning and money in place of a baby tooth.
Same with me and almighty purple unicorn creator
As a child, I never believed in those but ironically I believed in my parents on the same evidence. /trauma dumping
Oh yeah- well then WHO put that quarter under my pillow- wise guy?
Checkmate, atoothfairyists!
@@theunknownatheist3815 yo mum 😏
Hundreds of books on SC to back up the believe.
“To someone with faith, no explanation is necessary. To someone without faith, no explanation is possible.” -- Thomas Aquinas. (Translation: If you’re gullible, you’ll believe it. If you require evidence, too bad, there isn’t any.)
I had a rich prince in South Africa use the same line when I said I wanted some evidence that he had 50 million dollars that he needed me to help him smuggle out of his country.
@@technomancermagus8357I thought that was a Nigerian prince.
@@advorak8529 What? Everybody knows THOSE are scams. Heh...
Crazy people believe anything written down
@@technomancermagus8357 … and yet there are real Nigerian princes. They usually do not ask you to do illegal things and try to suck all the money they can out of you, though, that’s more pretend princes …
"I don't go by any canon denomination or religious law, I just like to believe what I want and what I FEEL is right, and I pinky swear I know what Jesus is telling me, even if it it different from what he might say to other people". Come on
Boutique Religion.
Mix Your Own God sweets bar.
All You Can Believe God-Menu.
@@advorak8529 each cocktail unique and bespoke to the drinker. The god that never changes my a$$.
@@hazok4351 least the nuts are free
@@advorak8529mocking God and savior Jesus won't help your sad situation, but reading the holy bible and watching dean odles biblical flat earth presentation which destroys atheist beliefs and globe beliefs will save your soul if you repent. !Time to use your brian God gave you
Juan: "I've been touched by God!"
Also Juan: "You can't physically test a spirit!"
So, like, which is it, man? Either you can touch him or you can't. 🤣😂🤣😂
Moses saw his butt!!! checkmate atheists!!!!
Or both baby ohhhhhh yaaaaaa
Assertion = truth ...
Possibly all theist arguments when broken down.
Nah, just their own, everyone else's get auto-noped.
When are atheists going to demonstrate the prebiotic chemistry required for life? Just make carbon, nitrogen, oxygen, hydrogen, sulfur and phosphorus form a single protein or gene so I can be an intellectually satisfied atheist. Believe a human with X&Y chromosomes can get pregnant. Love includes men exchanging bodily fluids with other men...
What Matt went through with his parents and Lee Strobel is very similar with what I go through with mine. Instead of having honest and coherent conversations from both parties, they go to a priest every so often or on the weekends. And I know this because they’ll come back at me with irrational things that of which they couldn’t think for themselves otherwise and make our previous conversations pointless. I understand Matt’s frustration
welcome to my world. Here is what you need to do. Read the book with a critical mindset and even bookmark it to make it easier for you. Find all the horrible things that are said and make notes for yourself asking why....?
Honestly, you don't have to actually read it these days. you can go online and find all the inconsistencies in your book.
I was sat down in front of a priest and I had my ducks in a row. I started asking him the uncomfortable questions, to the point that I was told point blank that I should not be there if I think suck horrible things. I had to clarify every time telling him it wasn't I that thought that it was his book. He would try and tell me it was an allegory or that i didnt understand the context or something like that. Then I would put it on him asking why should I believe his interpretation over other people/religions who claim to be told by god that its different.
LOL. I was kindly told that I should leave.
you don't have to go to my extreme and go straight to the priest. but every time your parents say something, ask them to explain why their book says (insert horrible thing from the bible that directly contradicts whatever they tell you).
@@dj_menyo839The Sceptic’s Bible - google.
@@dj_menyo839 If only they gave logically honest responses to genuine questions. All I get is "That's demonic" and "I rebuke that". Even when it's from their own book.
My siblings and I spent our lives in catholic schools, not because we were catholic, but because the public schools in Detroit were awful (and particularly dangerous for white kids.) Nearly everybody in my school treated the god beliefs as a total joke. Most of the parents did not believe either, but the Moms enjoyed Wednesday Bingo, and the Dad's enjoyed the Friday night drinking bash. If asked the right questions, nearly all of these folks would realize that they are/were atheists. 40-50 years later, many of these folks still force their children through communion and confirmation, though none of them actually believe the fairy tales.
@@CycocelVocalistthen, just ask incredulously "You rebuke the bible?:
I like how the background crew laughed when Matt read out the topic. 😂
I prefer a relationship with reality. I personally believe that reality is reality. Reality be praised.
I cannot praise reality because of all the sh…t that happens in reality.
But at least reality is consistent and the experiments are repeatable. Fantasy is much more fun, but alas, they all disagree with each other.
@@advorak8529almighty purple unicorn creator iz da ultimate truth
I understand having a strong desire or need for a daily escape from reality. That's why I play simulation games & build my own virtual worlds how I want them. What I don't understand is when people add another layer of escape and put churches into theirs. Also, mine isn't a permanent replacement for reality.
@@noracola5285 yo wha haz a wha when who now????
@@mistylover7398 gesundheit
We come into the world godless, wordless, and totally amoral. We acquire these as inherited biases: someone else’s gods, someone else’s language, someone else’s expectations - passed on to us, without alternatives, while we were yet incapable of discrimination.
Wow... great comment! I'm gonna remember that. Thanks!
Hello, listen closely! The holy bible and dean odles biblical flat earth presentation destroys atheist beliefs and globe beliefs! Time to wake up atheists and fools! Time to get a new gig mental matt and atheists !Jesus saves sinners! Use the brain God gave you!
@@SusanDerrickhi Susan, remember this Jesus saves sinners! Now use the brain God gave you
. Now Susan remember this. Jesus saves sinners and fools like you! Now use that brain God gave you!
@@SusanDerrickIf you don't know what a sinner is, look in the mirror! Jesus saves sinners
The monumental arrogance of a twenty three year old is just crazy. He literally gets on a phone call with a guy that is a professional debater who's been a public figure in this debate space for 20 years and thinks he doesn't know Lee Strobel and his work?
I know I was probably this arrogant at that age but I hope I wasn't that dumb.
The moment he said he didn't know if Matt had ever had faith was the point where I knew exactly where this call was going to go. Trying to give out homework without having done his own in the first place before calling into a counter-apologetics show with an activist as steeped as Matt... Not a good idea.
My inner NastyBastard wants to suggest he next try and engage Aron Ra about creationism and biology, but that would be too cruel. Funny, but cruel.
@@tehspamgozehere or Forrest on Evolution 😂
Sadly, I was that dumb at 23. But I was questioning & eventually reason sunk in by the time I was 28.
Why do we have all the answers before we know the questions? 🤔
@@Mewse1203 Forrest on Evolution is great value for money. Forrest in general is great value for money. I've been giggling internally at his 'try not to laugh' vids all day today.
I am not convinced that God exists, and I am also not convinced that God does not exist, because I have not seen any convincing evidence to support either proposition. The reason I’m an Atheist rather than Theist is that, with my knowledge of Science and the Natural world, I have found that God is not necessary to explain anything. God is superfluous.
I find God as an answer to things people want answers to and are uncomfortable or scared of having the answer of “we aren’t sure.”
And yet da religious decepticons believers may never care and believe anyway guz fee fees or reality lol y iz it everytime I play videos like dis one a religious church preacher ad keeps popping up??? How longer will da bloody transformers war 🔴⚛️⚔️✝️☪️🟣 go still in dis generation??? Another day today at still war with these people ✝️☪️🟣🟣🟣🟣
I think not holding an anti-theist idea in the modern age is dangerous. At this point religion is threatening peoples rights in places like america.
@@blond7899exactly, that’s why the idea of gods were created in the first place. But what you’re doing is called the god of the gaps fallacy. Just because we don’t know doesn’t mean a god did it.
Poor little sucker thought the all great and powerful would never make him look like a poor little dishonest trick. Probably thinking a Apologist might not be such a great idea in the future but they are all the same dishonest ... Being a believer for 30 years and my faith is becoming 1half of Zero after this.
Matt is actually being super patient here.
That's because the caller is honest, respectful and actually listens to what the hosts say
Matt right now in life 🤓🧐🤬😆
Matt after he passes away:🔥🔥 😖🔥🔥
The demons when they see Matt arrive: 😈🍆❤🔥❤🔥❤🔥 😈🍆❤🔥❤🔥❤🔥 😈🍆❤🔥❤🔥❤🔥
@@NaliTikva You should seek professional help
@@eldritchwulfe why?????
@@eldritchwulfe Why?
"Oh, but there's evidence for Gods existence! There are so many things!"
“There's...... uhh......... I have feelings, saw God’s face and I talk to him!”
Every fucking time. GMAFB
I got nothing.
That's right. You got nothing.
Well, I have feelings.
That's right. That's what they are.
My feelings are real.
That's right. But they're not reality.
Even when you're dealing with real people, just because you have a feeling doesn't mean the person is responsible for that feeling.
Can feelings create the universe, earth and everything we see ? No they can not. Can feelings even exist absent of a mind ? no they can not. Can a mind exist absent of a brain ? no it can not.
Theres no part of any claim around god that conforms to reality.
I like my feelings to be at least rooted in reality. That's why I exhibit so few of them.
The Jesus story just happened to have that magic element that fits the psychological trap that is so easy to fall into, like the guy said, it was based on emotion, many many people really really want to beleive in the God delusion and all you have to do is fall for it, abandon logic and reason and live in an emotional fantasy where Gods or Christs or prophets love you, you get a massive feeling of not being alone in life and that you are special but its imaginary.
Exactly. Too bad da gawd fantasy belief idea haz got quite da religious suckers
I love seeing how/when matt just loses the chill. Sometimes soon, sometimes later
They always show up with such confidence, probably believing the spirit of their God will speak wisdom that the hosts have never heard; only to realize their arguments aren't new and have long been rationally refuted.
Years ago I heard this wise nugget - “Feelings, Faith & Fact sat on a wall, Feelings & Faith fell off, but Facts remained”
I literally got a ad for a bible app before this video started 😭😂
"How many other batshit beliefs do you have?"
"I think this is the only one." (19:30)
Oh boy, I tagged the exact same moment. It was hilarious that none of the three people involved even bothered to mark this turning point in the conversation.
Whoop-there it is!
"faith is not rational"
Gotta love that.
Matt goes straight to the point. No B.S.
He is the best
Sometimes I pour out my heart to the guy in the mirror and I can see he understands. I love that guy....and he's totally a god!!!!
Also, this isn't a good cop bad cop scenario. This is a very patient cop trying to tug very lightly on the leash of a cop ready to blow his top because he's had to do this same thing too often and is sick of having his time wasted. It's pretty clear that the two of them know who's in which role and that adds to their dynamic. If only this caller had done a little homework, such as watch a few previous shows before calling in.
If someone in any sphere of life claimed to have a relationship with an imaginary friend who talked to them, they would be put in a mental institutution, unless they were religious.
not exactly. i have imaginary friends and i do not have schizophrenia and i haven't been put in a mental institute. its a coping skill i developed out of trauma.
but its the same idea as a god. believing in a god is not schizophrenic, it isn't hearing voices, it's playing pretend as a grown up. it's a coping skill.
it takes courage to live choose to recognize when you're playing pretend and choose to live in reality instead. the religious choose to continue to play pretend and hide it from themselves because they lack the courage and belief in themselves that they can handle reality alone.
I'm pretty sure I don't want to worship a God that needs to kill an innocent man, no matter how long, in order to forgive multitudes of guilty men, and somehow believes that's just.
Saying that you have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ is like a stalker saying that they have a personal relationship with a fictional celebrity.
But what I want to know is why so many Christians are against gay marriage and polyamory when they all are supposedly in a relationship with Jesus.
Bart Ehrman blows the scriptures out of the water.
lol well done Matt on the Lee Strobel section, look, these guys are like me putting out a reward for a guitar i had stolen years ago, and them turning up to claim the reward just by telling me what kind of guitar it was! ;)
If I had a relationship with my wife like this guy "has a relationship" with Jesus - she would divorce me because I would never share my feelings with her, share how my day is going, tell her what I am doing tomorrow, directly bring her flowers, do anything as a couple with her and anyone else, take out the garbage, do any house work, call her on the phone, send her cards, tell her she was heard etc. - and she would be justified.
You, sir, need to clone yourself!
Simp comment.
"I will help you have faith. Then you must listen to me and do everything I tell you to do and never question me or my motives. You must hate those people that I hate and love only those people that I say you can love. You must live your life only in those ways that I give you permission to do. All this in the name of my god. And most important, you must give me some of your money. This is the religion I have faith in and what I want you to have also."
Once again, Lee Strobel rides to the rescue...on his horse's ass.
I also talk to myself, even out loud sometimes. And you know? I'm always right somehow. 😂😂😂
The Lee Stroble rant by Matt was highly entertaining. Thank you and cheers from Saskatchewan.
Great call! This is the reason I listen.
I have non reciprocal non tangible relationship with a guy that was nailed to two sticks a couple thousand years ago because he helps me find my car keys. 🙄
22:07 That homework part gave me a good laugh. 🤣
😂😂
I remember when I looked forward to Sundays, because of the original hosts of Talk Heathen and Atheist Experience. Then a new generation took over. Now I'm once again as excited about Sunday as when I was a Catholic kid😪
How to find your faith again:
1. Go to the last place you'd look its probably there
2. Check under the couch
3. Find wherever lost socks go and check there
How can you have a relationship with a fictional character?
Easy. I already haz one with almighty purple unicorn creator lol
by having a fictional sense of self
@@mistylover7398I have a personal relationship with a rainbow giraffe named Lisa.
There are people who are in love with Cartoon characters….so anything’s possible 😂
@@Ben-no4lz I'm one of them lol. More real than gawd
"I have no evidence for Jesus, it is impossible to have evidence, and I only believe that I have a relationship with Him on faith"
"Oh, and here is homework that will convince you of the evidence for Jesus"
Faith is irrational, therefore Gawd!
Yup lol
HOLY FUCKING SHIT!!! He cusses at god?!! Now I’ve heard everything
[whisper] Hasa diga eebowai.
Much like the old joke. "I don't drink, I don't smoke, I don't swear... Ah fuck, I left my smokes at the pub."
Ya, I never did that when I was a believer and not because I thought I might get smotted.
Jesus!
@@Leith_Crowtherya gotta belt that one out to the skies! Sing your heart out!
I feel he is wrong!! He feels he is right. He won't stop to consider how he could be wrong.
Surely these callers must have looked at the show and watched it closely, never seem to take on board listen to the answers provided in previous shows.
They don't even listen to what's directly said to them between their desperate excuses.
The only time I communicated with someone on Reddit, I spoke to someone who was so intellectually limited that I became disgusted with the platform.
Every thread is different.
You'd be surprised how many nice folks are on it.
It just gets bogged down by the louder voices
@@skindred1888 He wasn't mean and loud.... just really, really, dumb. I literally gave the guy a wall of text trying to explain a really, really, simple instruction, and I basically realized I was talking with someone who evolution failed..... badly.
Back to Facebook maybe??
@@Olyfrun Oh, god no.
@@skindred1888 Yeah. Maybe I shouldn't have been irritated, and instead just felt sorry for him. I mean.... lord, was he just not bright.
Apologists have a real problem with actually answering a question (much worse than politicians), I wonder why that is?
I will give the caller credit for politeness.
Thanks, Matt, for making this episode worth watching. I enjoy the ones where we don't get bogged down for hours on the audience proselytizing.
I think Taylor Swift would love you, Matt, because she is reasonable, and that's a reasonable conclusion.
I’ve been touched by god, I hope he was of legal age!
Theist will NEVER understand our position. If they did, they would be forced to realize they hold the same view.
16:17 I always giggle a bit when Matt says omg.
Jamie Boone is really nice, I think Matt has been doing this for too long and is already tired of it. Having said that I always have a crack watching him getting so upset
Damn I feel for this guy, because he has somehow managed to believe in God with the idea that he has sufficient evidence rather than actually having sufficient evidence BUT he was either dishonest or what I think its actually his case, he is too far indoctrinated that he is the type of person to say "just believe & believe & have faith until you believe again". That or he is too thick & cannot ever listen to the other side, he just hears them. I hope he can re-listen to this conversation when he is actually in a spot in his life where he no longer has special pleading & had the ability to actually process what Matt & Jamie are saying. Best of luck to all, stay happy & smile, be nice to others because it costs nothing & last of all enjoy life, learn more & don't waste the time we have whilst alive on this beautiful planet :)
When a person says, ‘I believe the Bible is true and was written by the people who lived through those events’, I’d have to ask, “are you aware that even the Bible/Church don’t make the claim that any version of the Bible was actually written by Jesus or any of the Apostles, even though some of the Testaments are attributed to them?
So frustrating to hear these people who call in saying they’re going to give “evidence”
to prove to a rational skeptic, of the existence of a God, and they proceed to spend 30 minutes talking about faith and feelings and hypotheticals and scripture, and all the BS, none of which, by their own eventual admissions, constitutes “evidence”!!!
Matt's intolerance for BS is always amazing to witness😂
I love when Matt blows his top. There was an episode recently where Matt was co-hosting with Aron Ra, who cracked up every time Matt got sore.
"I have a feeling what proves to me that god is real."
"For other people to accept that god is real needs to have that feeling too."
With this effort, i can replace god in both sentences with anything i want.
Yes, but can you make anybody believe in Santa Claus that way who is more than five years old? ;-)
@@schmetterling4477
Yes, it is simple, people believe in anything if they think that in return they get what they desire.
The more they desire something, the easier it is to convince them to believe in something and promise them that they get what they desire.
It works in all age groups.
Basiacally politicians and priests are both promising something and their job is to convince people that for supporting their agendas people get their wishes granted.
If an adult can belive that a politician is a honest representative of the interest of the voters without realizing that the real interest of the voters is not represented by any politicians then we should not be surprised that people can be convinced to believe in anything.
@@LordLemoncake Please go ahead and promise me that Santa will bring me a pony. Let's see how that goes down. ;-)
@@schmetterling4477
I can make you pretend to belive that Santa Claus will bring you a pony when you are with your 4 years old child and wife and we have a conversation and your wife tells you that dont crush the hopes of your child because your child will be motivated to act good if he/she believes in Santa Claus.
God, Santa Claus, the president, they dont have to be real to inspire people to act good, they just need to represent values.
@@LordLemoncake I was approx. 4 years old when my Dad told me that he had been on a field research trip to the Amazon where he was wresting with a boa constrictor. My Dad won the fight, of course. No snakes were hurt in the making of that tale. My reaction was "Dad, you are a liar.". It's one of my first memories. Not all children are as stupid as you were when you were 24. ;-)
"I don't want this to turn into some kind of back and forth where we cut each other off...."
Guess what....if you refuse to answer the simple and direct questions that have been put to you.....and instead try to move past the question by constructing a new statement or new argument that rests entirely upon a fallacious premise.....you gonna get cut off.
Moreover, once you've admitted there CAN BE NO EVIDENCE for god then what else is there to say? You've just admitted you have no good reasons for thing you say you believe.....
this is so bizarre. If I said I have a personal relationship with Santa, or the easter bunny, or more succinctly zeus or shango, what would be the christians's response use. I would guess they would be skeptical or say I was flat out delusional. Well?
I usually point out to them that if I claimed that my neighbor Lorry Hunstetter resurrects people two or three times a week, then they would either ask me for evidence or call me crazy. I then tell them that I am merely returning the favor in case of their Jesus. I have not gotten a rational response to that even once. People mostly go radio-silent or they break out in random bible quoting madness. ;-)
Let's face it - most people's religious beliefs are cultural rather than rational. People tend to believe what their family and community believe. Once individuals start to examine their beliefs rationally, they tend to become atheists. Community and family pressures to conform are strong but are not a path to reality.
I can see now why Matt needed to move onto his own show. Not enough people are hard-line skeptics. This specific episode is the evidence of his reasons and need.
Even if God were real, God doesn't keep his word. That's why they want you to have blind faith.
Exactly, so many religions...
It's unfortunate that Juan doesn't realize his faith justifies all faiths, including the very negative ones.
Who is the host other than matt? I really love their style, and I'd like to listen to more
Jamie Boone. His name is literally written on the screen under him...
@MatthewVanston omfg. Nice mb. Thanks
My relationship with Jesus:
Me and the lord...we've got an understanding.
So do I. God told me in a church that he wasn't there when I was eight years old. Haven't seen him since. Not that I have seen him before, either. I had only seen weird old people who kept talking about him in strange ways. It always seemed a bit surreal. ;-)
As a catholic I appreciate this show! It’s a great way to help you question your faith.
You weren't questioning your faith after the first flesh eating session? What are you? A necromancer? ;-)
The power of his god creature compelled him.
I'm a young kid I'm 23 years old, 😬Geezus... I have a 15-year-old toddler
They come with the arrogance "I am going to help you to find your faith again" and then,they go down in flames, because iti is probably the first that their believes are trully
challend.
In the words of The Austin Lounge Lizards "I can't go back to Nashville Tennessee 'cause that's a place that I've never been." Since I am a life long atheist, I've never been anything else, so this guy will have a very hard time bringing me back where I've never been.
I can’t remember what I did yesterday why would I believe anything that was in some book from two thousand plus years ago.
He actually admits that his belief is irrational....
I couldn't care less about some clown writing about jesus resurrection in the 21st century.
Caller- " I am not sure.. if I understood the quest..
Matt- how many batshit believes you have that Are not supported by evidence"😂😂😂
Our family has been extremely fortunate to grow without any pressure to believe in “gods”. Both my wife’s parents and grandparents were strongly atheist. I’m Norwegian born, my wife Swiss ~ both highly secular countries. In Norway, only a small part of the population is christian. Except for muslims, only some 3% of our population, mainly the elderly, attend any kind of religious gathering as regularly as once monthly. Both I and our Norwegian born young daughters were/are protected from being exposed to religious indoctrination at school. It’s been a crime for over 30 years here to expose children to the bible in their schools. Finding anyone of Norwegian ancestry under the age of 35 who believes in “gods” would be like searching for hens’ teeth. Never having been indoctrinated either as child or adult, I find the arrogance of Juan,in boasting that he can introduce anybody to his imaginary sky fairy, to be staggering. I for one have no interest whatever in his delusions.
Get this. My mother is Norwegian, born in Trondheim in 1954, came to the US in 1971 where she met and married my father (they're still alive and married to this day, though my father has had enough of her), had 3 children . She's like every other Norwegian I've ever met or known in most respects except when it comes to Christianity. She is a ZEALOT. A firm believer in the God of Abraham and an unquestioning member of a Wisconsin synod Evangelical Lutheran church. She raised us children to believe and follow the same and sent us to Lutheran schools, insisted upon it. She was not influenced by the prolific nature of Christianity in America, she brought her extreme zealous faith in God and Jesus from her home country. Which I find bizarre, as Norway is not a heavily religious country and was not especially religious when she lived there. I met a Lutheran minister in Norway once who told me he was atheist
@@imvandenh In the pre enlightenment days prior to the religious indoctrination of our children in our schools was made a crime, belief in imaginary sky fairies was as common here as anywhere. Indoctrination affects some people more severely than others. I find nothing remarkable in christian clergy admitting to being atheist. In our experience, it isn’t rare. I too find it bizarre that she would become a zealot in Trondheim, especially given her young age when she left. I’ve never met a native Norwegian who could be described as a zealot. Your mother left a long time before my wife or I were born.
I MUST HAVE HAD A JESUS!, cracks me up!
We never got to hear how this chap believed he was going to bring the presenters back to God but I'm guessing it was along the lines of, "Pray the Sinner's Prayer with an open mind and God will answer it and you will feel what I feel". I prayed that prayer over and over again over the course of forty years and I never felt the presence of God. Why, then, would my experience be less valid than his?
I became atheist in a church during a late afternoon mass when I was eight years old. The priest was going through the motions, the three old ladies who were there with me had nothing else in their lives and an eight year old boy had an epiphany that god wasn't there. It was just a cold, empty building and a meaningless magic show.
Jamie....you spoilt that call..
jesus is like that girl friend that nobody has met and lives in another state
19:30 Pure gold.
Honestly he was a really nice guy 😄. All of us ex believers probably relate with him on some level when we used to evangelize. Unfortunately awkward conflict is inevitable if you call into an atheist show, especially to a smart guy like Matt, he probably should have anticipated that better
You can't discount that many people like to be humiliated. That's part of their psychodrama.
0:30 did you check under the couch. My faith fell under there one time and I couldn’t find it for years.
It's under the middle cushion.
Dont know who Matt is with here (not in description) .... but he knows his shit and should return.
I absolutely despise Christians saying they have a personal relationship with Jesus. No, they have, at best, a personal relationship with an idea. I can say all day I have a personal relationship with Emily Blunt. But that would be a lie. I have never met her. And no Christian alive in the last 1900 years ever met Jesus.
This kid is so sad.
"I´ll be honest with you guys, I cuss at him sometimes"
What has "being honest" have to do with it? Poor poor kid.
Good luck bringing me back 😂😂😂. Ive never been a Christian, grew up in a secular country and a secular household. There's nothing to bring me back from cos I've never believed in any deities.
Question about feelings: what exactly stops us to consider feelings totally imaginary? Why do we consider them something "real"??
Ah... I relate so much to this xD
I utterly piledrive someone's useless excuses. And they then show up a week later with the same excuses and amnesia.
This guy references the case for christ totally oblivious to how unreasonable thay is, its amazing, i kinda think he is a troll cause who would reference fucking lee strobel to matt, its wild, but he also seems pretty genuine, its really sad if he is for real
He's young, he's basically just opened the door to the outside world, everything is new to him & so far he's seen no reason not to assume it's all just as new to everyone else.
Just curious - why do so many Americans say 'based off off' when that is not correct and they could just say 'based on'?