How to connect an amp without preouts. Pioneer receiver and Russound
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- Here we review the Pioneer VSX 834 received, an excellent budget receiver and the Russound ADP 1.2 adapter. That allows you to connect an external amplifier to a receiver without preouts.
thank you ! Without your video I would have not been able to figure out how to open these snap connectors. I tried it but was afraid that I would break them. Definitely delicate.
My pleasure. Thanks for watching.
Thank you for this.I have the Sony str-dh740 and I think I get about 90 watts per channel, which seems to be underwhelming for my fronts (definitive technology pro towers 400) and the center (infinity beta c360). With this adapter, I can now add an amp for those channels.Thank you for the video.
You’re welcome. Thanks for watching and commenting. We have a giveaway this month for passing 1k subs. Be sure to subscribe to win.
I used that device on an old 1993 JVC 5.1 / 120 WATT AND USED A NEW EMOTIVA 2 CH. AMP. Great sound with todays electroncs. I will deffinately upgrade the AVR.
Glad to hear that. Thanks for watching and commenting
Using the inter-connects, what’s the connection from the receiver to the amp?
@@wesc.8289 speaker wire connects into the adpater's terminals and into the speaker terminals on the back of your AVR
Great video I was looking for the video about how to connect a Pre amp thx for this great awesome video😄😄😄😄😄😄
You’re welcome. Thanks for watching
I absolutely need one of these but no one ships them to Australia.
nice job bro! I have golden ear super-sub x & I put the SVS SoundPath Isolation & a better power code that makes it sounds much better.
Henry47 thanks. The sub x is the only GE sub I don’t have. I’m quite sure it’s amazing.
I don't know why they stopped putting preouts on recievers. I just picked up a Onkyo txnr 696 and for 600 bucks was surprised no preouts! Thank you for this video
I agree. You’re welcome. Thanks for watching
You have to spend around $1,100 on a reciever just to get pre outs. That's a little irritating.
Agreed 👍
Excellent video man, I thought I was going to have to purchase a new receiver with pre outs. I have the pioneer vsx-lx301 elite. I’m looking to use these adapters along with crown xls2505 amp to push 2 crewing Vega xls215. I hope they work I seen the adapters handle 250w rms 500w max. Thanks for the video.
You’re welcome. I use mine a lot at 200 wpc rms, no problems at all. Thanks for watching
My dood, 100% same receive and same issue. Did this fix meet your needs?
@neilkarella1191 yes it did. Thanks for watching
You missed a few things I was wondering about that Russound - ADP-1.2 Speaker to Line-Level Adapter. Do you have it running in parallel with your speakers? Also if you turn up the vol on the Pioneer amp does that screw with the line out of the ADP? I have the Pioneer VSX 933 updated version from what you have and I was thinking of running a few VU meters on all the channels using a few of those but still run my speakers at the same time.
Also what's the Ohm rating from positive to ground on say left channel of that device?
No I don’t have it in parallel. I was only using two speakers and it designed for two speakers so I didn’t feel the need to. Also it doesn’t have any problems turning the volume up on the pioneer, the Russound is designed with attenuation. I’m not sure what the ohm rating is I’m not sure the little manual that came with it mentioned anything about that ohm rating. As far as speakers go I have had 4 ohm speakers hooked up but my amp takes care of that it’s stable down to 2 ohms. Thanks for watching
That’s is exactly what I was looking for but I couldn’t find it. Thank you very much!
You’re welcome. Thanks for watching. If you check out my updated version of this video I show a better connection set up.
I subscribed to your channel, and I can see that you have updated version. Thanks again! Cheers!🍻
@@fransoa72 appreciate your support
I'm in the same boat as you, this video saved me a ton of money. Can you notice a sound difference at all from the connected speakers when using this adapter?
You're a lifesaver! My Denon only has subwoofer pre-outs so I really thought I didn't have any other options for hooking up an external amplifier until I saw this video! I pretty much ordered this immediately lol. Can you hear any sound differences using this adapter? Side note: check out Fosi v3 mono amplifier that just came out. It's around $100 and is putting high-end amps to shame, especially at its price!
You’re welcome, no difference in sound for me. I have seen the Fosi but haven’t looked into it, thanks for the tip. I’ll check it out. I’ve been waiting for something new to review. Thanks for watching
Best video I’ve seen on this product
Thanks I did a follow up video with a bit more detail if you want to check out that vid too
red Speakers, how cool! Nice video.
Thanks. I just did an updated version of this video showing a better connections. Feel free to check that out if you want. Thanks for watching and subscribing 👍
Thanks for the video 👍 my ADCOM GFA 555 MK2 also miss 12 volt trigger.
You’re welcome. I have an updated version of this video if you’d like to see a more in-depth view of the set up. Thanks for watching and commenting
Perfect solution for my Marantz PM6006 Integrated. Thank you!
You’re welcome. I just added another one to my set up for all 5 channels. Thanks for watching
Can you guys please help me out lol. So I have a Sony Dnh790 7.2 4K receiver that I really like, sounds amazing for 400 dollars, but I would like to get a little more juice to my front right and left tower speakers. I’m running a 5.2.2 setup with Polk s55 towers, s35 center, and 2 s15 surrounds, and 2 little Sony Dolby atmos speakers up on the very top corner of my walls. Sounds great but it clan always sound better. My question is if I do this process with the Sony reciever with an outlaw 5000 5 channel amplifier to just give my front towers extra my power, how does the amp know it’s connected to the receiver? I can turn the amp on/off manually which is fine with me. But I’m not sure how the amp and receiver will know to work together to put out the same music/movie. Also will adjusting the volume in reciever still adjust the volume of my towers as well?
@@JH-gd4qv the adapter acts like preouts on a receiver. It’s the same circuit engineering inside a receiver, it takes the audio signal and redirects its path to the rca preouts instead of the speaker terminals. So your amp will get the audio signal from the output of the adapter to its rca inputs. Yes your receiver will still control the volume, +-db, and channel setting to your speakers. As far as turning off and on if your devices both have trigger inputs and outputs that is what will turn your amp on and off.
@@Audiolympian ok I think I understand. So since all my other speakers are still connected. It’s still getting signals to the amp that way I guess. It’s all kind of confusing. I’m still new to all this. I don’t even really need the amp yet but will be buying it if I get a bigger room if we move in a few years. My Sony dnh790 receiver doesn’t have a 12v trigger input/output. So would this still work without the trigger? I would just need to turn the amp on/off by hand?www.sony.com/image/73e7d1990c5cb6a4b61812b6dcb56133?fmt=pjpeg&wid=1200&hei=470&bgcolor=F1F5F9&bgc=F1F5F9
@@Audiolympian thanks for responding, there isn’t any other videos on this topic at all on TH-cam to help, your the best. You would think people would make videos about something as common ads this. Because when you are fist getting into home theatre and have kids especially, you can afford 1k plus dollars receivers with dedicated pre outs. I eventually want to buy a 9.2 receiver with pre outs for an amp to power my front 3 and surround speakers but that will have to be once my kids are out of the house lol
Thanks for the video, it,s given a new idea to me.
Thanks for watching
Just want ive been looking for thank you
You’re welcome. Glad to help and thanks for watching
Hey I was wondering, if you use this it still runs the internal amp in the av receiver right? I push loud volume so I’ve been having a hard time finding a stereo with a good internal amp so I recently got a 12 channel amp that will do up to 150W rms. But if I were to crank up the av receiver would it not still get hot and go into protection mode as the internal amp is still pushing power? Thank you!
Yes it still runs the internal amp for other channels. I originally had it set up for just my front mains and my center and rears ran off the receiver still. As far as a I know the receiver should be fine cranked up with the amp connected, like you said the power is coming from the amp but I guess any amp or receiver can shutdown if it gets pushed too much but I’ve ran mine pretty loud and for a couple hours and no issues. Hope that helps and thanks for watching and commenting.
So, if your fronts are hooked up to the preamp and they're hooked up to the receiver, will receiver still distribute the signal regularly in surround sound?
Yes it will or at least it should I know some older receivers (12yrs and beyond) may shut down the other channels but in every situation I’ve used and others told me the channels stay active. Thanks for watching
If I were to connect this to a 2 channel receiver, would I still be able to power 4 speakers no problem or would there be less power going to the speakers?
As long as your using an external amp with it and depending which kind it shouldn’t break down the power too much. So you should be good. Thanks for watching
Is this the only adapter I could use or could I use a line level converter for a car as long as one end has speaker wires and the other end has rca jacks?.
I’ve had a few others ask that question before. It seems possible but my concern would be car audio devices are designed for 12v not 120v. I think it would fry up. But it may be possible I’ve never tried it. Thanks for watching
I finally purchased another Golden Ear super sub xxl, now I have 2 they sound incredible.
Christopher Smith awesome. Lucky you. I bet it rocks
Great video and thank you. I really thought I had to but another receiver with the needed pre outs. On the receiver what is that metal piece going into the "Speakers Front" around the 11:45 video mar. I am not an expert and still learning.
Those are called banana speaker connectors. Those connect into the speaker terminals better than bare wire. Thanks for the question and for watching.
What will happen if you plug high current things like a space heater or a refrigerator or a table saw or a microwave into the 120 volt outlets into the back of the av receiver.
Well a space heater will definitely blow a fuse. However the reason receivers have outlets on the back is because years ago devices didn’t always come with trigger inputs for power and to turn on so you could plug into them and another device, CD player or amp will power on. But I wouldn’t use them today and it’s probably not a good idea to plug any high current devices. Thanks for watching
Hi! I am having issues with scrolling comments so sorry if this is already asked...what gauge speaker wire are you using? I got one in today and I am struggling to get the wires in the adapter without strands not going in and causing shorts. Is there an adapter for the speaker inputs that you are aware of? Like teeny tiny banana clips or such? Thanks! Great video! I'm hoping to pull off exactly what you have done.
He Emmmanuel. Unfortunately we are forced to use a high gauge wire so it will fit like 18 or higher. Another option, and this is what I did, is to use solid core wire like the wire used in electrical work and I kept that wire as short as possible and used longer interconnect cables. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching
Yes you could use the pin connector. Just not sure if it would fit in the adapters connection. If it does then that would be a good source. Thanks for watching
i have 2 atmos recievers can i use this to connect them? and could i power my subs with one and surrounds with the other?
I don’t think it will work for what you’re trying. These adapters just allow you to connect an external amplifier for more power.
Can you hook up two receivers to combine the power of both to your speakers?
I haven’t tried that but I’m sure you could. Thanks for watching
I thought the idea of a pre out on a receiver is that the user can bypass the (usually) junk power amplification of the cheap receiver and use a real separate power amp. The solution presented in this video takes the signal of the built in power amplification and knocks it down to line level. So the power amp of the receiver is still in the signal chain doing its thing. Did I get this completely wrong?
No. You’re right. This video was for those that want to use a separate amp but the receiver doesn’t have preouts. So in that scenario this device transfers the signal without down grading the signal so the external amp can power the speaker. With capacitors and resistors in the device that helps the signal to not degrade. Thanks for watching and commenting
As well, great video. Thank you
Appreciate the compliment. Thanks for watching
I was wondering if you knew whether or not this would also work on a regular 2 channel receiver? If so then this could be what a lot of people who want more power for bigger speakers are looking for. Myself included.
Yes it works on a 2 channel receiver. I agree with you which is why I did the video thanks for watching
@@Audiolympian Thanks I will give it a shot when I can get around to it.
So...i listen to alot of music. I have an 80wpc pioneer elite. Does adding a 100 watt 2 channel amp make a big difference in sound, or just volume levels?
It Depends on the amp. A good amplifier amplifies sounds not just volume. So you should be able to hear more ambient sounds along with extended volume. For music the instruments should sound more clear and present in the sound stage. And the vocals should be more robust and lively as if the singer is in the room. A 100 watt amp should be a noticeable difference over the receiver. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching.
Brilliant video, i have a question. Can i use this to run an active subwoofer from the speaker wire to my passive subwoofer. My current set up is a Harman Kardon BDS 635 5.1 thanks man and keep up the good content 👌🏻
Thank you. Yes you can use this adapter for a sub. The thing to keep in mind is the signal is not a dedicated lfe signal it’s a full range signal but the sub will give some added bass. Thanks for watching
Thanks for the reply man appreciate it 👍🏻
@@cameronbaillie87 no problem.
Saved me from spending a good chunk of change! What covers did you order for these?
Glad to hear that. I order some covers on parts express. Thanks for watching
@@Audiolympian Could you link me to the covers, please?
@@jorge10928 sure
@@jorge10928 here is the cover I used. It’s not ideal but it serves its purpose
Partsexpress.com
metra 99-9000 universal radio housing.
Hi .can I use this adapter with denon avr-x1600h. Pls suggest me
Yes. This adapter will work with any receiver that has speaker terminals. Thanks for watching
Does this work for a subwoofer ? I have an amp with no sub out and a sw with no speaker inputs.
I assume so. The only thing would be the speaker signal is not a dedicated lfe signal but should still work and add bass to your overall sound. Hope that helps and thanks for watching
i have a question, if you want to hook up a receiver without preout to an amp do you nee3d to change the signal voltage to microvolts or simply just have the rca adapters. i have some speaker wire to rca connection adapters that dont do anything to the signal strength, can I simply use the adapters to plug into my amp or do i need to change the signal voltage as well? is that what the adapter youre using does or is it simply just a connection fitting adapter? thank you, great video btw, i found it very helpful
You just need the rca adapter. You shouldn’t need to change any voltage at all. I haven’t used any other device so I can’t say for sure it would work but others have told me they used car adapters that worked so it could work for you. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching
thank you, i super appreciate your help and advice. @@Audiolympian
@@erisrising4016 you’re welcome my friend
Does using a line level converter take load off of the AVR?
No. Because it uses the existing signal to the speaker. It just reroutes it to an amp.
Can you still use subwoofer on receiver and regular speakers on amp and hear them all?
Yes you can. But you may need to adjust the settings in the receiver to have good balance. Thanks for watching
Can we use line level converter which we use for car audio
Some people have said that works. I haven’t tried it so I’m not sure. Seems like it would work, just don’t know how good. Thanks for watching
What housing did you finally use for these?
I had two. One, I ordered a basic housing from parts express and the other I made from thin pieces of pine wood. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching.
Is there any other alternative than russound . Thanks for your amazing video
I haven’t come across anything different so far. If I do I’ll certainly make a video on it. Thanks for watching.
yes an AVR with preouts to all channels,lol
Does the converter "care" about the speaker impedance (e.g. 4 ohm vs. 8 ohm )?
Yes but when I called on it they told me they are compatible down to 4 ohms. And I did confirm that using them with my Sonus Fabre speakers. Thanks for watching
@@Audiolympian OK, thanks. BTW someone recommended a PAC SNI-35. They are transformer based (which is better than using just resistors - distortion wise) and they are inexpensive on Amazon.
@@Enigma758 thanks. I’ll look into those.
@@Audiolympian Just be sure it meets your needs. Considerations include speaker impedance and whether or not a remote wire is supported. Some are intended more for car rather than home stereos. Take care!
@@Enigma758 thanks for the tips
Does a line out converter device works the same?
Technically yes. I think the difference will be in the resistors and capacitors the devices use. Thanks for watching
thank you, very helpful. actually, i was looking for something like this. i am in dhaka, bangladesh.
You’re welcome. Thanks for watching
im running 5.1 if I wanted my front stage to get more juice but my older Yamaha doesnt have preouts how would I use this product because it looks like its only 2 channels
Correct, one adapter is for two channels. For a 5.1 you’ll need 3 adapters and just don’t use one of the channels. That’s how I have it on my system. Hope this helps and thanks for watching
@@Audiolympian gotcha. one more question where would I plug the 3 into my receiver?
@@aneedkassim9727 you just use plain speaker wire to connect the adapter to the speaker terminals on the receiver. Then on the other side of the adapter use an rca cable to the amplifier. I’ve got another video coming showing a better diagram of the hookup and using multiple adapters
It worked well on my dennon 960h
Awesome! Glad to hear that.
Can you think of practical drawbacks to using this instead of buying a receiver with native preouts? Thanks!
Good question. Maybe the only drawbacks would be the adapters are not in a case or chassis. And the speaker terminals on the adapter are small so you are limited on the gauge of the speaker wire you use to connect. Other than that nothing else I can think of. Thanks for watching
I know this comment is old. With this method (or any line output converter), the receiver's internal amplifier is still being used to output audio. The adapter uses resistors to attenuate the signal.
The pre outs on a receiver pulls the signal from the preamp stage of the internal circuit instead of the power stage. Hence the term "pre out" refers to preamp output. Using an avr with pre outs puts no load on the amplifier stage. This allows the avr to run cooler. Reducing the risk of thermal shutdown. The avr then becomes a processor only. Of course, you can still connect speakers to channels that are not routed through the pre outs. LCR pre outs to an external amp for those channels and run surrounds off the avr. More flexibility options.
You could split out of the phones jack too
Hooked up my basx A5 using the adapters for main stage and surround backs. Surround sides stay connected to the reciever but now i cant hear them
You’ll definitely need to go into your settings and adjust the DB for your speakers, if your receiver allows that. Your basx must be a lot stronger than your receiver.
@@Audiolympian can I just get a 2 channel to run those alos
@@albertgomez6855 yep
So can I use these to adapt powered studio monitors to my reciever since I don't have pre outs? Would like to use studio monitors for my surround sound system.
Good question. I would think so, a powered monitor is basically a speaker and amp together. I’d say yes this would work for you. Thanks for watching
@@Audiolympian one more question if you don't mind, because there is four speaker wire ports and 2 rca outs does that mean I could power two monitors by plugging in the speaker wire ports into front l and front r on reciever and 1 rca to each speaker? Thanks alot for the replies.
@@bpalf8379 yep one adapter is for two speakers so you can use set for L and R
@@Audiolympian awesome! Thanks so much for the reply. Ive ordered one for myself and am excited to hear the end product.
@@bpalf8379 cool, happy to help. I’m sure you’ll enjoy your set up.
Good day. Can you tell us the name of the enclosure you bought for this adapter.
I apologize, I don’t remember. It was just a housing unit I bought from parts express.
I just realized if you connect the adapter to the speaker outputs in the back of the AVR, it already went through the internal amp of the receiver. Then you connect to the adapter then to the input of the external amp. If I am wrong please correct me
Yes you’re correct.
@@Audiolympianbut then that’s not how preout means. Preout means it bypasses the internal amp so you can connect to an external amp
@@toai2 correct.
Which speaker wires do you connect
Not sure what you’re asking. But for the adapters I use basic 16 gauge speaker wire because the input connection on the adapter is small. So speaker wire goes from the receiver to the adapter then an rca cable to the external amp. Then, more speaker wire from the amp to the speakers. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching
did you use it for the center channel too?
Yes I did. Thanks for watching this video too.
Question: I have tried to connect everything according to the video and still nada 🙁.
Speaker wire from receiver to the white and green, speaker into the red and black, rca Jack's from the input to the part.
Does that sound right?
Sounds right. What amp are you trying to connect?
@@Audiolympian Amp - Pyle PT390AU.5
Receiver- Sony STR DH510
@@gilbertorivera2011 oh yeah for some reason I’ve been told the Pyle amps have some difficulty with connections. Some guys have told me they got it to work but I don’t know how they made it work. I’ve used them with Emotiva, Sunfire, carver, Parasound, Rotel, and Marantz amps. They’ve always worked for me.
@@Audiolympian 🙁 that is what I get for buying a so so product. It's the first and last time I but anything from Pyle
@@gilbertorivera2011 sorry it’s not working out for you. But when you upgrade I think you’ll be satisfied
Where does the adapter get connected to? I’m kind of new to this? Do the cables on the adapter go to the amp or the receiver?
Hi Jason. Happy to help.
The speaker cables go from the receiver to the adapter front. Then from the adapter rear, the rca cables go from the adapter to the amp. Hope that helps. I have a part 2 of this video on my channel that shows a better set up if you’d like to watch that also. Thanks for watching
I just saw your updated video…thank you so much….just subscribed to the channel!!!!
@@jasonkrueger8585 thank you. Appreciate the support
Hi there...I liked your video... i have a query .....I have onkyo nr656 7.1 channel av receiver and i am running all 7.1 and i feel that my central channel klipsch rp440c need more power. so can i use same adapter to make pre out for my central channel. also please advise if i can use power amplifier or integrated stereo amp to increase power for my central channel.
Hello. Thanks for watching. Yes you can use this adapter for your center channel. I’m not sure about the use of an integrated amp. It’s possible through the use of the rca cable. But I haven’t tried it. Good luck. If you try it I’d like to know the results
@@Audiolympian Thanks for quick response, so i can use power amp and volume control done by my av receiver.
@@RahulSingh-vn1bv you’re welcome. yes you can.
Sir , can I use car speaker level to line level adapter on my home theatre setup
A few people have asked that before. I would say yes you possibly can but I can’t say how well it works because I’ve never done it. The biggest concern I always have with car products is they are not designed for 15amp / 120 volts and 1500watts. Just designed for car voltages. I don’t recommend using them but they could work though
@@Audiolympian is there any other way because this product is not available in Pakistan ☹️
@Rhim302 sorry to hear that. To my knowledge there isn’t another way, however some people have mentioned that they tried using a car amp converter. I don’t typically recommend them because they are not designed for the voltage and wattage and may not be the best option but perhaps it could be a short term solution.
Thanks. I'm going to buy the line converter.Where did you find the enclosure to fit it?
I got mine from parts express. They have a lot. I got a big one because I knew I would get more in the future. Thanks for watching
But you loose the power from the reciever?
Wanting to bi amp.
Reciever running the high end and external amplifier running the low end. Don't look possible with this device. Once you run your speaker wire out from your reciever? Or could you use the B channel for this device and still get sound out of the A channel. I have questions. Anybody got some out there?
No you don’t lose the power from the receiver. It’s just redirected. As far as bi-amping, I think your best bet is using b channels. I haven’t used b channels in a while the only issue that might be there is if your going for true Atmos or Dolby, the b channels might shut off or not allow for true surround sound. But I think it’s an interesting concept you got there. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching
Iam confused how are you running the wire . You got a wire coming into the speaker and Reciver plus this ?? Can make a another video showing the viewers step by step ??I wanted to see how you connect it . I know the other cable goes into the Amp into preout section.
Maybe I can give you a better explanation, speaker wire goes from the receiver to one end of the adapter, then you connect the rca cable from the adapter to the amplifier, from there you connect speaker wire from the amplifier to the speakers. Hope this helped.
Where from receiver is the question?
As an electronics tech , shoot man I could build this! On E-Pray I enlarged the pic and got all of the resistance values.. hahahahaha
Hey, Then you can sell them my guy. I did notice it’s a pretty simple and basic device. Thanks for watching
What is the link of the adapter please? Thank you.
I have an updated video for 2021 I did. I have the link in the description there for the adapter.
can it be used with 8 ohns speakers ?
Yes it can.
Ok, so I don't have preouts on my Sony str-k700, but I don't have rca inputs on my QSC audio RMX 1450, so now what do I do?
I’m not familiar with that amp, so I looked it up and it seems to be more of professional audio gear rather than home theater gear. You’re right, no rca input. There is always going to be difficulty blending the two types of gear together. Sorry the best I can recommend is purchase an actual home theater amp. Crown makes a home theater amp very similar to the qsc and they’re fairly inexpensive
Thanks for watching
Well I've got these yamaha speakers that will handle 500 watts rms each, so is there a receiver that you can recommend that it will adapt to them?
@@brianbekken6439 wow those are good speakers. I’d first suggest an amp but to answer your question, of course Denon and Marantz receivers do well. Personally I’m more of a fan of Anthem, Sunfire, Rotel, Emotiva and Yamaha makes a good receiver as well. Also depends on your budget. Hope that helps.
Do you connect the blue RCA cable to the preout on amplifier?
Yes, to the input on the amp
Which input?
@tacumentary9046 depends on how many inputs your amp has. But anyone would work, as long as everything is else is connected to the same channel
Would a regular automotive Line Output Converter work for this, they are about the same price and already come in a nice box.
In theory I think it could. Other people have asked that question but I think one of the problems that might come up, is the automotive converter in designed for 12 volts not 120 v. It might fry. But I haven’t tried it so I couldn’t say for certain
@@Audiolympian I have one that doesn't need external power 12v or 120, it just connects to the high level output and converts it to low level, I'm going to try it out this weekend to see if it works out🙏
@@dropped5310 cool. Let me know how it works out.
No the cR ones sound awful
Can I get the purchase link of the product?
Here is a link to my other video on this topic. In the comments I pinned an eBay link to purchase it
th-cam.com/video/0OzPOIPp_ZE/w-d-xo.htmlsi=baIj7qgP9HG5Dex-
@@Audiolympian thanks a lot
@@ParvathyKapoor you’re welcome. Thanks for watching
My Reciever Yamaha RX V 581 turns off when I connect using the Russoind Adp1.2
Make sure all your connections are correct. (Which I’m sure you did) what amp are you connecting?
@@Audiolympian crown xls 2502
@@Joeluv999 hmmmm. You not the first to tell me the crown amps seem to be a bit twitchy with this adapter. Although it shouldn’t be. I’ve used it with about 4 different amps and they’ve all worked. Emotiva, Sunfire, rotel, ps audio. Let me see what I can find for you.
So the pioneer sounded better than the onkyo?
Yes. I was quite shocked, I didn’t expect that. Thanks for watching
The thing is a want to connect my graphic equalizer to a plus recoiever I just bought about 2 years ago I doesn’t have pre outs
Oh I see. That would be difficult being an equalizer usually requires the signal of the source first like a cd player or turntable then to a receiver or stereo. Sorry I couldn’t help you more.
Hi! Now I am a bit confused? Use of the ADP 1.2, as per peter SZ's comments from a year ago, mean that despite hooking u a separate amp to an AVR that does not have pre-outs that the power from the separate amp is not used? Or is it only used to drive the front mains/center channel while the AVR drives the rear surrounds? I have older Yamaha AVR's (HTR-6130 and HTR-5063) so am hoping I can use the ADP 1.2 to connect an external amp since neither of those HTR's have pre-outs? Thanks.
You’re correct, the adapters and external amps will run the speakers connected to them. And the receiver will run the rest of the speakers.
@@Audiolympian Ok so then I don't really understand what PeterSZ talks about 1 yr ago on this page. Anyways: yesterday u replied to a question and recommended Parasound as an external amm. There is a Parasound P/SP-1000AV Processor/amplfier for sale near me for $300 Cdn? I am also looking at gettting the Denon AVR-2802ci as, I think, it has pre-outs for separate amp hook-up.....price is $175 Cdn. Thoughts? Thanks.
@@andrewborbas9356 if you only going to run stereo or maybe 5.1 and 7.1 and they are good condition those work well together. I have the denon 2802 as well, still works great. I always ask for $10 less, never hurts and the worst is they say no.
@@andrewborbas9356 but between the two I’d go with the denon.
@@Audiolympian so the parasound is not an external amp?
Can I use the adapters used for car stereos? Tq
Good question. I’m not sure. The biggest difference I can think of is car audio equipment is designed to handle 12 volts where home equipment is designed for 115 volts. So a car adapter might burn out being it wouldn’t have strong enough capacity. But you certainly can give it a shot. Thanks for watching
@@Audiolympian further update. Car LL converter works! In Malaysia, it cost less than USD2. Have been using for a few days now. Hope it last
@@paddyfeeny4518 very cool. That’s good to know. Thanks for the update
Great video..Are these any good will they hurt the receiver in any way
Thanks. They shouldn’t. I use 5 of them in two different systems and they’ve all worked great for me. However I have had some people tell me when they hooked them up receivers or amps went in to protection mode but I don’t the details of their wiring, receivers or amps and speakers. But nobody ever said their systems were damaged just that it didn’t work but again I’m not sure how they hooked it up, could have crossed something. Thanks for watching
@@Audiolympian wow thats funny I hooked it up twice to my onkyo 6500 using a marantz mm9000 and same thing happened to me went into amp check then it went into speaker check and then powered off and I thought it was me but I'm positive I hooked it up right. So I was thinking of buying a different amp and trying it again but I really didn't wana go thru the whole return policy thing sending the amp back taking 5 days and waiting 10 days for a refund on a credit card. Hmmm maybe I'll just pass on it.
@@bigguy1403 that sucks man. The only thing I think can cause that is the receivers are not capable of handling a different ohm load from the amp, thus no amp preouts. Im gonna do some testing to maybe see what can cause this.
@@Audiolympian that would be awesome bro thank you...hope to hear back from you..and it's funny when I called onkyo tec dept they say they never heard of the russound system I'm like really bro...
@@bigguy1403 haha. That’s strange. The Russound company has been around for a long time.
I actually own a Pioneer VSX 523 and it looks to be very similar to the one you have there in the video. I heard you mention that you're able to change this setting for the OHM....... Would you be able to tell me exactly how is it that you do that?
Sure. Use the remote and go into the menu then to speaker configure, there it has an option to pick your ohm setting. It should show it at the default setting which is usually 8
@@Audiolympian ok cool I will have to try that and see. I did purchase this receiver recently off of marketplace and unfortunately it has no remote so I have to buy one on eBay. I should be fine as it is because I'm running two duel 4 ohm 15" Legacy subwoofers wired to 8 ohm in a vintage MTX home audio box that has the mids and tweeters in it from the original. I just replaced the subs as they were old and starting to go out. The subs are duel 4 ohm like I said and have the wired to take an 8 ohm load with a factory crossover inside to protect the mids and highs. The subs actually read as 3.5 ohm per voicecoil for a total of 7 ohm on each sub but no subwoofer is EVER going to read its exact stated ohm. So with that said I'll probably just keep it at 8 ohm as you will actually lose power by dropping down to 6 ohm from all the forums I read. And I was going to ask you, with your Pioneer receiver do you notice how you have to turn the volume up to about 50 before you really start to hear the music at a decent level? Maybe its because I'm just running the two main front L and R instead of having the complete 5.1 surround plugged in with it? Just was gonna ask your take on that.
@@thomasfitzgerald2595 sounds like you got a cool set up. Yes I do have to turn my pioneer receiver volume up to get good sound but the sound is pretty fantastic when I do, better than my Onkyo.
@@Audiolympian well I'm still in the process of obtaining a few more things but when all is done yes I hope to have a very nice setup that any audiophile would appreciate. My main receiver is my Marantz SR7005 and all my speakers are Premier Acustic.
I have another question that I thought you may be able to answer??
How did you intall pre amp chip...
You didn't show where you plugged it in...
I show a more detailed version in this video. Thanks for watching. th-cam.com/video/0OzPOIPp_ZE/w-d-xo.htmlsi=u1Z8wffGP_5VU5Fa
Hi
I have yamaha receiver rxv385b 5.1
I don't think it has preamp. Can I use this option? What preamp do you recommend?
Yep any receiver that has speaker outputs can use this adapter. There are many good preamps out there you really can’t go wrong with any Option. But to answer your question I’d go with a used Denon or Marantz because they have better processing than other models at all price points and most of the time they come with more features. Thanks for watching and subscribing
@@Audiolympian thanks for your response.
Just got a question: i have yamaha rxv385b 5.1 I would like to add another subwoofer using RCA splitter. Is this a good idea? Is it possible?
@@mkhaudio oh yeah splitters work well for hooking up two or more subs. I have a few like that in my systems now.
@@Audiolympian Yamaha Subwoofer Speaker with Twisted Flare Port - NSSW050B (Black)
What's you opinion on this sub? I'm on low budget
@@mkhaudio sorry. I’m not that familiar with that sub. However I have had a couple Yamaha subs a long time ago and they were pretty good sounding for the price and at only 100 watts. I would imagine their technology is better today. I did read a review on that sub and a pretty good review showing for budget subs. The only down side it said was the lack of controls on the back. Other than that it was fairly solid. Thanks for watching
RCA cables from adp 1.2 adptr to wat input on amp??
To the normal rca input on the amp. In my case my amplifier has the rca inputs listed as fronts, center and rears. So my initial set up was just to my front left and front right inputs until I got two more adapters. Thanks for watching
@@Audiolympian RCA cables into Phono, tape, aux input.. which??
@@M0D60 seems like your using an integrated amp or receiver, I’m not sure how that would work. Regular solid state amps don’t have input options like phono or cd. However in your case I’d try the auxiliary input. And see if that works
@@Audiolympian I appreciate your response & knowledge. Tq
I was looking up the adaptor and in the description it says "not for use with digital amplifiers", how do I know what a digital amp is
Yes. It says that because most digital amplifier don’t have rca connections, that’s why. Most of your class D amps are digital and the common digital amp used for home stereo or theater is Crown. As long as the amp has rca has interconnects it will work with it.
@@Audiolympian I was thinking of getting a crown xls1002 and connecting it to a Onkyo tx-nr6100 or a Onkyo tx-8140.
To power Bic rtr1530 speakers
@@c0uchsl0uch it may not work with that amp.
@@Audiolympian luckily the xls1002 has 3 different types of input methods, xrs, banana & rca and speakon, rca output connectors
@@c0uchsl0uch ok. Then you should be good.
Can I use that device AV receiver to connect PA speakers
Probably. Just not sure if the pa speaker would require a lot more gain and voltage and burn out the adapter. As long as you don’t over drive it I think it should work. Thanks for watching
@@Audiolympian because I read to run PA speakers to AV receiver you need pre-out zone 2 on AV receiver
@@Texas059 right. I think it should work
Your setup seems alot like mine. Just blew 160$ based on your recommendation, really hope the russound ADP-1.2 are worth it.😅
Haha. Me too. Joking aside they’ve workers well for me for a few years now. Thanks for watching
@Audiolympian bro your suggestion got my Amp to work! But now I have a problem where the Amp works fine for 15min but then cuts out for 3 seconds with no sound and then just works fine for another 10 min and it gets more frequent when the volume gets higher. Any idea how I can fix this?
Googling I see it's something about grounding , what do I have to do to fix that?
@@MA_KA_PA_TIE glad it helped. yep it sounds like a grounding issue. I’d try to change your amp power cord if you can to a more heavy duty cable. If not add some kind of power conditioner or a cheap, but not the best solution, if your amp power cord is 3 prong add a 3 prong to 2 prong adapter. This solution bypasses the ground in the cord and allows the hot and neutral signals flow better but again not the best solution but I have used it before and it worked for me. Hope that helps and thanks for watching.
@Audiolympian People like you are the internets redeemer! Thanks for the quick reply I've been trying everything to no avail. Will try your suggestions! Just subbed too. Thanks!
@@MA_KA_PA_TIE thanks for the support my friend appreciate it.
Any other alternative? Greetings
I haven’t found any good alternatives. Sorry couldn’t help. Thanks for watching
Info on housing for adapter
Sorry. I haven’t really found a good housing for it. I made mine from some scrap wood I had laying around.
Question..I seen zone out and pre out Jack's on back of receiver..they won't work for amp ???
For some reason those outputs don’t work that good specifically the zone 2 preout. Not sure why. But the regular preouts should work connecting directly to an external amp. Hope that helps and thanks for watching
@@Audiolympian I bought a crown xli 2500 and can't seem to find any receiver to hook up to.. the latest is Denon avr-s960h
@@terryratliff7960 yeah that receiver will need an adapter to connect an amp
@@Audiolympian that makes since..lol..is that adaptor easy to hook up ? Do I hook up both front speakers then connect rca from amp to that piece ?
@@terryratliff7960 yes it’s quite easy. And yep you described it perfectly. That’s exactly how it connects
I want to connect PA speakers pioneer stereo receiver but I don’t think doesn’t have pre-out do I need a special device connected to my receiver and then connect to speakers
Yes you’ll need an adapter of some kind
Thanks for watching
Do you know which adopter do I need connect my passive pa speakers
My stereo receiver does not have pre-out only has audio in
@@Texas059 as long as it has speaker terminals this adapter will work.
Would I need another adopter for center speaker
Yes you would. And it doesn’t matter if you only use one channel on it, still works fine. Thanks for watching
@Audiolympian does my receiver need the trigger cus it doesn't have it I've seen 9.2 receiver with it
@@albertgomez6855 nope. That’s the good news because it just uses the actual speaker signal.
@@Audiolympian ok got it thanks
@@albertgomez6855 you’re welcome
Any help out there
Wow man sorry to hear that. I would have imagined that the adapter would have blew before the amp. What kind of amp did you use?
You need only one ADP 1.2 per system?
Depends on how many speakers you have in you system. 1 adapter is for 2 speakers. Thanks for watching
@@Audiolympian My Denon AVR540 is loaded with a Bose Cube 5.1 w Surround. In addition I want it to add a pair of 401Bose speakers and a pair of small pioneer. I have no preout so I want to get me an amplifier so I can add this other 2 pair of speakers. So I will need two ADP?
@@panasalsa if only looking to add 2 speakers you’ll only need one adapter
How do I connect 2 adps to 1 amplifier?
If you go to my channel I have another video that shows how to hook up multiple adapters. With better details
@@Audiolympian I did and found 2 videos but no explanation. What is the title of the video you mention? Thank you for helping.
@@McL0VINNN th-cam.com/video/0OzPOIPp_ZE/w-d-xo.htmlsi=JhEyYQr60VRUhwkx
So I already bought it so you think it won't work
Honestly not sure. You certainly can try it. But the device is designed for amps. But maybe you can find a new use for it. Keep me posted, I’d like to know
Too much "waffling". If you're teaching, 1. Introduce the topic 2. Speak on the outcomes of the topic 3. Teach the topic (including demos) 4. Wrap up Then finally, 5. Close out. In that whole video, you only spoke showed the connection point for a whole minute; then spoke on all the equipment you own. Very frustrating..
Sorry to disappoint. Thanks for watching
Know your topic and facts as well ...bring it or don't bring it at all but good job
Thanks for watching
Look both uh yall need ta get da fuck out the way and stop tryna discourage this man on his channel. Cause yo ass miserable you lookin for a team ta join you. Go do sumn positive wit chaself. Done talking 😢😅
Realistically, your video gets the point across, it's not your fault others are impatient and frustrated. Thanks for the entertaining and informative video 😁 @@Audiolympian
Did anybody out there have trouble with this I hooked this up exactly exactly the right way and and it blew out the right side channels of my amp. Does anybody have any comments
I hope you were able to resolve your situation. Sorry the read what happened.
Where do you get the converter , cant find it on ebay
eBay , Amazon or crutchfield
@@Audiolympian will this work from my receiver to a 1000rms plate amp for subwoofer
@@jadeerechillin it should. The only thing I would say is the signal may not be solely low frequency unless your sub output allows for speaker wire not just RCA cable. But if your ok with that then it should work. Hope that helps, thanks for watching
@@Audiolympian my receiver is only high level out and the plate amp is for sub with low pass frequency control and only rca input , so will it be OK for low bass as don't want high frequency coming through sub , thanks for reply
@@jadeerechillin if your receiver has a high level sub output you should be ok 👌
Good lord 30 centuries passed in a ten minute video
Holy crap. 30 centuries. You must be very old now. Tell me, what is the audio future like 300 years from now? Hopefully I’m not still doing TH-cam vids because I know I’m not that good at it.
it's an 80 watt receiver @ 8 ohms
Thanks for watching
Bought it and when I put up the volume it skips like a hiccup
That sounds like a cable issue. Could be the rca cables or the speaker wires. I always try to use some decent quality cables to help with transference and minimize interference. Also depends on the age of the receiver and type of amps.
Why can’t you just cut of the rca’ from others side and just twist speakerwire and rca wire together instead of using that adapter.
In a manner of speaking you probably could do that but the adapter does provide some filtering, grounding and load resistance so nothing is damaged.
Thanks for watching
I just have an old Sony 5.1 receiver but has no lines out just aux in
@@Dansthebest1 gotcha. This is the situation for the adapter.
The draw back that I have is it doesn't have an enclosure.
Yeah. I get that. I made my own from wood
please show hook up for both devices. showing the bach of units for better connecting for next vidio please
Here is the other video I did showing a better connection. th-cam.com/video/0OzPOIPp_ZE/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for watching
this helped alot thank you@@Audiolympian
@@larrywood1201 my pleasure
The video starts at 545
Thanks for watching
FFS that was painful. AudioParalympian?
Thanks for watching