@RaizaS94 I have absolutely no idea how they afford to do it, and multiple events too. I make 126k a year, no way I could just keep going to events back to back lol... mortgage, car, wife 2 kids, groceries alone are the same cost of the hotel for 1-2 nights. I can see like 1 to 2 YCs a year, but still crazy to me to just go like X-2
@@jboyzboas man if you want to spend an arm and a leg to win a outdated console, a shitty handbag and a pointless prize card and all power to you. The amount of time the average yugioh player has to put in to just keep up with the meta game is outrageous.
Just hearing how long these turns last makes the game intimidating and not fun. I loved the game and still have a huge soft spot in my heart for this. I had a Yu-Gi-Oh! tournament for my birthday when I was like 14/15. But seeing how duels against people go? Never playing against actual people.
Its a huge wasted opportunity. The game has a bunch of problems but the community is only focused on negativity. Especially pros are caught up with a bunch of stuff they dont like with alot of it being of course bad. If you find cool people its definitely worth playing in person. Especially underneath the meta bubble lies a ton of fun. If you go hyper competitive and always want to have the new stuff you might find alot of the stuff bothering. But i dont. Which doesnt mean that i dont long for a banlist.
@@user-lg5xu6id5j which could just be people not wanting to play snake eyes format. Also stuff like TCGs have less priority for people in times of Inflation. So there is a huge difference between waiting and quitting. Also judging from your own perspective and extrapolating that is 100% wrong. How many videos are made about random joe joining the game? Right none. Do the tournaments get bigger and bigger? Yes! The YGO channels need money and certain things attract clicks. Its one part as to why you here so much negativity. Just look at the jess stuff surrounding her leaving. The clicks and vids. Although again. There is alot of valid criticism.
The easiest way to see that Yugioh is "dying" is that kids don't even touch the game nowadays. When was the last time you saw a bunch of 12 year olds playing at a locals? The playerbase is shrinking, the price for "meta" is sky fucking high and players are getting fed up with Konami treating its playerbase, especially the top players like second class citizens. At least the OCG is affordable and actually gets interesting products
it's not konami's fault lol they literally just released a whole ass set with all the staples and all the higher priced important cards to deflate the economy and allow people to afford those cards. it's the idiot reseller mentality that ruins it
This is now beyond 12 year Olds honestly. I was around when it first came out. So many people had to be creative then. Not everyone running the same 3 engines because @konami does cash grabs every month.
Also, we, OCG, can play Rush Duel outside of Duel Links. So, childrens here play that instead. Then, they can either stay competitive playing rush, or transition to Master Rule Yugioh when they are ready.
There's a lot of us older players who started to see the early signs of the game becoming what it is now back in 2015-2017 and we got out around then because we didn't want to be a part of that. Lots of players called us crazy. Now they're saying what we've been saying for the last nine years.
@@frosticle6409 that doesnt devalue the core of the argument which stipulates that the game is nothing more but a coinflip simulator. The only difference is that you need to pay hundreds of dollars to participate and you have to watch your opponent jerk off for 5 minutes.
@@HDGaminTutorials that’s how you think. That’s not how things go. There are FTKs, but those are rare and Konami bans most that they can find. Consistency is an issue too.
Cost of cards, new or returning players seeing you HAVE to play 12-15 hand traps to even think of competing and one card combos. It does make it feel like the game is becoming more generic with little creativity but a high entry threshold. And this is something that a banlist can't fix at this point.
The most popular and successful format in any TCG right now is probably Magic's commander because of the ease of access for new players AND the fun of high variance decks. You could see a deck several times and see totally different combos each time. Yugioh's power creep is so insane that games are often 1-2 turns and anticlimatic. Each deck has like half the deck dedicated to the same generically strong cards, and every deck has the same strategy of either going first and setting up a bunch of negates or going second and praying you drew the right hand traps to stop that from happening. Either they negate all your plays or you negate their negates. Duels are incredibly boring and anticlimactic to the average person watching, which makes it difficult to attract new players
@@CallMeAirChaps ive been on commander for years now its fun asf. I stopped playing during the end of Tear format, when kash was about to enter. I was gonna return but the formats kept getting too crazy tbh. My favorite format was 2019
If we’re being honest link summoning ruined yugioh. The fact that you can just take any amount of monsters depending on the link to make a monster was never good for the game. If you look at other types of summons they all had restrictions. Xyz- monsters had to have the same level Synchro- had to be tuner and non tuner and the levels had to add up Fusion- it was typically certain monsters that had to be fused and you needed a spell/trap card Pendulum- (I was never a fan of this one either) but it didn’t ruin the game because you at least had to have different scales on each side Ritual- you needed to have a spell card and usually use certain monsters to summon the ritual monster A lot of the requirements for link monsters are so generic like 2 effect monsters for example like they’re so easy to get out and they extend combos so greatly it’s ridiculous
Plus with pendulums at least your trade-off is pretty much having to dedicate your entire hand to your plays to get anywhere, not to mention being unable to slot many non-pend monsters into your deck since a lot of the time you'll brick and not make scales if you do. People forget a lot that they were pretty terrible on release until Qliphorts came out and were carried by being a once per turn Soul Charge.
The strongest link decks in the past were nothing like Snake Eyes. Snake Eyes simply has the most broken effects in the game that do nothing but extend three different ways on either turn to guarantee they will out resource you, and can abuse the most powerful brand new link 3 in the game that takes advantage of this resource extension.
Facts but xyz was toxic as well because they break the restricion they had starting making strong high level monsters that can be easily special summoned to play broken xyz monsters such as big eye or dracossack
The game is fundamentally broken at this point. Power creep has broken the game, single cards with multiple effects, 90% of the card library is useless, one card combos mean you have to play hand traps, excessive combos make it boring as you’re stuck watching your opponent play with himself and only to continue playing through your turn also. Unlike other card games yugioh doesn’t require resources to play powerful cards so all cards can be effectively used during turn one. Konami intentionally prints broken cards to sell packs further ruining the game. It’s only fun when you play with custom rules like only 5 card activation per turn or any special summons cause LP damage damage or all cards must belong to the same Archetype
A bit late to this, but you're completely right. I like those rules you added, and I used to play similar restrictions with my friends too, especially when MR4 came out. Nobody liked those rules so amongst ourselves we just ignored them 😂 One fun thing you might try is to build a boss deck and do a 3 v 1 like in the anime. In Duel Links they had raid bosses where the boss was OP, with high LP & timed; but still beatable. And the more progress you and rando's made, the more rewards you earned for yourself.
just gonna put it out there since not enough people do. Good on you to diversify your channel again Sam. These more serious discussions are much more interesting than deck profiles 100% of the time
You know what would make this game successful again? Making it a 2 player game again with actual back and forth turns not letting someone play half their deck for 5minutes for a KTO, limiting the amount of copies down to 1-2 per card in decks to diversify the play style instead of relying on a loop to win, making these cardboard cards cheaper than what they actually are now. If those things would change the player base wouldn’t rely on 9 hand trap cards 6 interruption cards and 3 copies of the same monster and respective spell to start their loop. This game will never change if these things aren’t addressed
I think it's a little more than that. I know some of the issues are that the new players don't understand the summoning mechanics because it's too much info to consume. Having the attitude of "If newcomers don't understand this game then it's not for them." Is not gonna fix the game and is only going to drive the game away. I think having multiple formats and actual good support by Konami can fix this game. If we take notes from MTG and why they always do pretty well, people love commander by a vast majority of casual players. What the YGO community needs is our own version of Commander, and it'll be a completely different format because new players aren't going to care about the Snake-Eye meta format that we have going. A 4 player game maybe. It also help if we have formats like goat and Edison, where we have time periods. So new players can play anything leading up to Synchros, or XYZ and so on until Link eera. Small stuff like card text is too small and too much to read are minor issues, I think formatting and user friendly games are what YGO is lacking the most.
@@Nemesis_T-Type guess what? Every single format is official but the player base wants only to play cancer formats like goat and edison, try to play late 2010 with drev and stbl and you will find the funny side of it! 2011/2012 formats are awesome too, 2013 with hat and 2014 with shaddoll BA. Stop blaming konami for everything.
@@bozeman191 It's laughable when you talk about GOAT and Edison that way because they are what could actually "save" Yugioh, if it needs any saving at all. The problem is that no matter how many people enjoy older formats, if Konami doesn't support them properly, it's the same as not being official at all.
@@chaosthegod konami does support every old format if players request them, we got 2011 format tho in some events, guess why? Players were asking for 2011. Konami should do for sure something to make it enjoyable to everyone but we are going to see goat/edison like a standard infinite format if they keep going this way.
@@bozeman191 Dude, the problem is not goat/edison. They're fine alternatives to the insanity post synchro we have in the game. The problem is that even with events on these or other formats, the payoff is pityful. Also, if you don't release products focused on those formats, you're not actually supporting them.
@@chaosthegod insanity post synchro? 😂 it was all good until link monsters imho, edison is the worst month for 2010 imo, i’ll repeat stbl format is way more enjoyable.
True, i used to try it in the past but the tutorial just tell you: Read all those card, learn all mechanic we introduct now, try to understand in 5 minute and play the game. it's too much for most new player.
@minhgiangtuan96 dawg I played from 2003 to 2013 and I don't even understand this game anymore. I'm trying to reestablish my self in thw game and it's been difficult
Exactly dude. I just tried getting into it and I can’t even make it to turn three lmao. Ash, max c, this special summon, this link summon that summons another summon that lets him out two cards in the field from his deck or hand that allow him to special summon another special summon😂 it’s fucking ridiculous
I don’t think multiple summoning mechanics are a problem granted some players will not understand newer mechanics as they come out. New summoning mechanics introduce fresh strategies and content. I think the real problem is power creep and greed. You need newer cards to be relevant every few months and that sucks.
3-4k worth of stuff? I don't think that's worth it. That stuff COULD be worth thousands, but you have to find a buyer for that stuff before you get a return. Until you sell that stuff, doesn't matter if what it could be worth, at present it would be worth nothing.
Worlds and even YCS exclusive merch sells fast and easy. If you top Worlds or YCS you're gonna get offers before stepping outside the venue. Worlds in particular will have people coming to you for the playmats and sleeves in droves and if you're lucky enough to win a Worlds prize card the rich collectors will be coming with cash in hand for it. Whoever wins Worlds gets compensated well but I agree that for the 99.9999% who don't win Worlds get shafted
Im a VERY casual player, so take my thoughts with a grain of salt. Not that itd fix the game, but its insane to me that essentially every handtrap is unlimited but Called By is at 1.
Prizing issue: top 10 players get paid seed (travel, room and food) into next tournament and top 3 players get a case of each pack that is released the following year leading up to the next YCS. SP10
I understand what you guys are saying about how sometimes the opponent opens with a godlike hand, but losing to a single card shouldn't be a thing. That's one of the points Jess mentions in her video. It feels more like an RNG game rather than a game based on skill. Yeah, luck should be a factor, but it should never be so decisive that it prevents the other player from playing.
How can they not open with a god hand when every single card in their deck is a +1 or search ore recicle and every single card is an engine starter that can result in another 15 cards being played starting from that 1 card only?
Different cart art, different playmat for top 64, top 32, top 16, and one of a kind for 2nd and 1st place, booster box of any recent set, prize card, 1k prob in cash would probably be rewarding. For anyone entering the tournament a generic playmat for the event, 3 booster packs - SP-10
Cash wouldn't fly for Konami, It's the main reason Konami got the license to make the game in the first place from Takahashi (which the rights are now with his heirs and Shueisha).
top cut or higher placements giving you "points" that contribute to your "duelist rank" (like master duel ranks but that accumulate for the entire year until the next world championship - master, diamond, plat, gold, silver, etc) a "hall of fame" for winners of different tiers of events exclusive playmats for higher placements (like the UDS black rose dragon one) alt arts for relevant cards exclusive rarities for relevant cards (or even a card of choice for winners) yugioh x *insert brand name here* exclusive merch (that can't be bought) travel compensation credit (via airline sponsorship) accomodation credit (via hotel sponsorship) SP10
I think d best solution would be d time u give yes cause if u give lets say 2 min then ppl wont be doing 1000 special summons and activate 20x efects, cause if u r gonna ban cards so gonna be hard to ban cards AND balance d game
So basically dont play yugioh? Everything takes 10 minutes a turn, and opponent interaction messing with your timer would suck. Stall decks would take your turn for you and so would snake-eye
Yugioh is not intrinsically designed to function with a chess clock, it doesn't matter what you do the game was not designed to have player time "paused" during another players action, especially at competitive levels
Ygo is Pay-to-win, Ko-money wants everyone to play 1 format to buy Fiendsmith or the latest T1 deck. Again and again every format T1 or T0. We need to ban together and make "Heart of the Underdog" type format for casual play like Mtg did to make Commander Format.
I don’t play Yu-Gi-Oh! anymore. I play competitive Lorcana and i’m diving into casual Pokémon. I used to play yugioh in 2019-2020 when Adamancipator was still viable, I spent $800 to build the deck and then three weeks later block dragon was banned. That instantly turned me off from the game, but I’m not saying that’s everyone, just me. I see now more and more pros from other tcgs coming to lorcana, and after watching this from top to bottom, with all your very insightful information on this card game, I can see why people are leaving. I wouldn’t want to invest $800-1200 into a deck, spend $4-500 in travels and then win a 8 year old console and some sleeves with a playmat. I urge anyone with a love for this tcg (YGO) to stay in it and continue to fight for your passion though. Love your content, Sam!!!
I don't know how did I end up here. I played yugioh when I was a child for fun and collected cards. The game must have fallen hard when a pro player is Italian Harry Potter from the dollar store discussing about quitting the game. Harry not even your spells can save yugioh anymore, go home this is not Hogwarts. Konami... What did you do to my childhood?
My friends and I stopped playing competitively due to starting families and the fact that we were not as good as we thought, lol. The game has been pushed towards combo decks to speed up the game but in reality it slows it down. And cards like shifter or dogwood are results of this shift. I agree with Sam that players need to adapt. That is probably the most important advice a player can get.
I dont agree. Players dont have to forcufully adapt to something they dont like. Instead the game has to be adapted to fit its players. We are the ones paying money, we are the customers. As soon as a company doesnt respect me im out. I can spend my money elsewhere. The problem with Sam and all the other yugitubers is that they make a living from that game. They cant quit like we can and they want to prevent others from quitting. Thats their job. If they wouldnt have the mindset to adapt to whatever BS konami throws at them they would need to find something different to earn money and its just normal that they want to continue making a living by producing videos for that game.
Nah, the adaptation should be done by the game that’s bleeding players. People aren’t gonna adapt to a game that isn’t fun for them. This video and this comment is pure cope.
I think the thing that urks me the most is just competitive yugioh isnt why i fell in love with the game, it was watching the show as a kid. Seeing all these DIFFERENT and cool cards and decks made me wanna play so bad. And i get its competition, and not every deck is equal, but Jesus, have some originality.
I agree. Nowadays it seems like people are using the same 40-80 cards in different variations/combos. Like, it’d be more fun if people had an actual style to their decks that required actual skill to work with. Be it the Crystal Beasts, Cyber Dragons, Elemental/Destiny Heroes, the “Roid” monsters (Syrus’s deck), or a deck focused solely on Blue Eyes, Red Eyes or the Dark Magician.
You be happy to know there is a manga series called Yugioh Structure where it sets in a Card shop and 5 characters each rep a typical card player. One of them is the Meta sheep who always plays the top deck and is pretty much the Kaiba. Our MC is the newbie. And for fun, there is the Role Player who acts hurt when he takes life point damage and other stuff.
I started yugioh 3 weeks ago after quitting for 10+ years. And now im gonna “quit” casually, and play other games till a new banlist comes out on master duel. I got up to diamond 3, but the turns take too long with insane combos and it feels like a death sentence if you have to go first. If they can fix the OP power problem, id really enjoy it again. Also the handtrap reliance has become excessive
It’s so pointless now. I just tried getting back into it and it’s impossible. The amount of summons, and traps, spells, monsters like ash, max c, etc. and on top of that I have to unlock all these cards by either playing or paying money😂 I loose every match especially when the other guy goes first. People be putting half of their deck down in one turn while I have a cyber dragon😂
Thats why i play Goat or restricted fromats. My friends and I just dont find 5 minute turns fun; and sometimes its just fun to send beaters after eachother for a duel or two 😂.
@@itsonlythatguy Goat format. The only time you actually care about attacking face down cards lol. NOT MAN EATER BUG! Haven't said that in a long time. Lol
Pak my man. As a chess player that actually watches competitve chess. People do not resign if they think the opponent has a check mate thayt often unless its a forced check mate. It happens a lot in intermediate games but had higher levels the players literally do the 'you better have it and not mess up' because if they do mess up it can easily end in a draw or win when they were in a losing position. I literally hate when people who say general chess statements like that when the other people in the room just nod and say 'ok' because they dont know enough to challenge it.
I think dogwood is only a problem now due to how easy modern decks are able to put up more than 8k damage on the board in one turn. It was bad before because the opponent could summon a few times under it make a 'half board' still live for the game to go back to them and try to still win the game.
I mean to your point, they don’t know enough to challenge it. I’m usually the type to go, “is that true?” But if they affirm it again I’m not gonna argue with them in the moment if it’s not something harmful. Even if I will most likely look it up later.
@@mryupjup2203 yes, it's not often you'll randomly see people resign unless it's like a mate in like 2 or 3 moves. like I said people would rather force a draw than take a loss.
@@Blue-Haku Dragoon has a destruction effect with a burn attached to it, an omni-negate destruction with a discard cost and a permanent ATK boost attached to it, and protection from being targeted or destroyed by card effects. Compare to Dragon Master Magia which is way harder to summon, has a monster effect negate with destruction, spell effect negate with destruction, trap effect negate with destruction, and a float into another monster if it leaves the field
Konami should create a package of staplers with a rarity 'Top Cut' similar to quarter century, something useful and hard to get, kinda easy to sell. Also allow shops to give something from them to players with money refund under a budget depending on attendence reached SP10
17:08 konami needs to make like chess where each players gets their own 30 minutes and when it’s your turn you hit the clock and start playing. When you are done then stop the clock again. That way players can’t abuse other players time
@@fulloffool5925 so I should plan to 2-4 minutes each turn to my opponent basically, as it's not going to be super uncommon for people to think for 15+ seconds when deciding when to respond to thing, add on whose timer goes down while I wait for a judge to confirm that it was infact more than 15 seconds they were thinking and that it should have been on there time. I guess my point is yugioh is not linear like chess, it seems super impractical to flip back and forth on timers if it's not digital.
I understand what you mean but right now too there is a unwritten rule that if you play slow then you get warning or even match lose in worst case. If you watch the tournaments then you will notice that players usually respond within 10-15 sec
@@fulloffool5925 I feel like the response time matter less if it's shared time though. I think the issue is there is not really a easy solution to the issue, we can't go turn 0+X, timers don't work really, going to only 1 game sucks, my preference is go to 2 games, guaranteed to start 1 and go second in 1. Remove side decks probably encouraging more interesting deck building. If you win both you get 3 points, if you win 1 you get 1 point, if you win 0 you get 0 points.
Pak is right, he or his opponent didn’t do their homework or testing enough to be proficient with their decks which is why he lost to ghost sister with 12 mins left 😂
TSX1 can't quit the game because his earnings comes from Yu-Gi-Oh. Also, he won't throw trash to Konami, no matter how bad the game becomes, for the same reasons. I mean, he's still looking for their sponsor. That doesn't take a big brain to understand. Every single pro player and Yugituber that DEPENDS of the game to pay their bills won't quit the game until they find a sufficient replacement.
@marcoipoqlo9294 I stopped comp yugi a long time ago, I just play friends now and even they won't play against me 😅, we've moved over to pokemon now, it's so much easier and more fluid than yugioh (atm) but maybe just cos I'm learning it still
@@marcoipoqlo9294 , oh, well... Some of those pro players and Yugitubers shouldn't quit the OCG/TCG game due to many sponsors which finance their streams, videos, and tournament participations. Some of them SELL PRODUCTS DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE PHYSICAL GAME. Which means that it won't be a good idea to quit the TCG if you're selling deck boxes from those sponsors, for example. How ideal can be to not play the TCG while promoting products for cards? Sounds stupid, right? So, read again and open up your narrow perspective.
@@Timeater one thing has nothing to do with the other jajajajajajaja. So should continue investing in the most expensive Game, without knowing if You Will win something worthwhile? You know that in tournaments there are more than 1000 players and at most 5 of them are the ones Who have royalties from Konami? You know nothing dude 🤣
The chess clock is an interesting concept. Doing so could push players to optimize for combo time over full end-boards. Shorter clocks with no bonus time could lead to simplified outcomes- Konami needs to realize releasing “better cards” is a lose-lose outcome as it dilutes the diversity of the meta… not to mention it reduces the theory-crafting aspect of the game that attracts so many players to yugioh. Until that (or another *major* game mechanic balance) happens, Edison format is the best solution for anyone who’s feeling disillusioned by the current state of the game.
In Hearthstone, when I played, we would say "there is a problem when the deck plays for u and u are not the one who plays the deck" power creeping often leads to that
what happens in yugioh is this they keep making broken unrestricted engines that can slot into the current best deck as a result of this an obscure counter from the past normally comes up to counter it instead of accepting that top players complain that a $2 card beat there $1,000 deck
@anakinsmith4770 that can happen, but when the deck is too strong, the deck plays for itself and the counters that come out are usually fooldgates. When tear ishizu was full power the deck wasnt really easy to play optimally, but lots of times it wouldn't matter because the deck was too strong that miss playing wasnt really a factor and lots of counters were just floodgates like dweller shifter etc and even then the deck had a pretty good chance of winning despite the counters. The same is happening with snake eyes even more with the addition of fiendsmiths. U can t keep printing cards too op
@@iufanboy5970 tear folded alot to zombie world and necrovalley but in saying that tear is incredibly fair without the ishizu cards because it can't be put everywhere
@anakinsmith4770 that s exactly my point, a deck can t be this strong that u need floodgates to even have a chance to play against it. Anyway even tho I still hate tear, it is surely more fair without ishizu
@@anakinsmith4770Tear is never fair. We had to reduce three of its original starters and extenders to limited and take away their level-5 fusion because they would easily gather enough tear cards to fuse into that monster and extend even more to a full-on triple. All of their cards literally floated into brand new boards if you dare play the game properly with raigeki and harpies heavy duster. It made the most broken cards in the game look bad. Not even Snake Eyes was that bad. Quite frankly, Ishizu is more broken than Fiendsmith. It simply got smacked so hard that its unfairly broken effects are harder to set up now.
Kinda wish Speed Duel was more popular. Duel Links is really fun and the physical Speed Duel products feel like a nostalgic throwback since they're cheaper and the power scale is much lower.
If I use maxx c and dogwood and my opponent is still special summoning, my opponent clearly isn't afraid of me having extra resources during my turn. I get the point that some cards are unhealthy but what other option is there especially if you know your deck isn't all that competitive. Maxx c and dogwood gives those semi competitive deck a chance to be respectability competitive
Just drawing the out is never the solution. And if its working its way into even the rogue decks it should be Pot of Greed banned. Just like most of these cards that are in every single deck, even rogues.
@@thewiccandanu1805 Just drawing the out is literally what spawned Yu-Gi-Oh. That is literally the theme of the main character Yami. Also if drawing the out is never the solution then the new image of card games is destroyed by Yu-Gi-Oh player concepts. And drawing the out is the most epic moment (always exciting when it happens )and that is why people fell in love with Yu-Gi-Oh in the first place.
It will only work once or twice but will no longer work afterwards since these are very old formats and the only people that would gladly play it often are mainly nostalgics or those looking for a escape valve A better solution would be basically adding the Domain or Trinity formats but these are unviable outside casual play and don't really fit a competitive setting
I’m just a casual viewer. I’ll watch some pack openings and some clips from competitions on TH-cam and stuff like that. But honestly, thinking that some of the people I watch are spending the same amount of time that they’d spend at work practicing this card game, only to win a game mat feels insane to me. Like, 20 years in the future, when you look back at your career and all you’ve earned is a bunch of mats is ridiculous and unfair.
It stopped being fun awhile ago, i switched to magic the gathering and honestly now like it much better. Far more relaxed and not just 30 minute turn 1 wins each game
I loved Yu-Gi-Oh up to 5Ds. At that time powerful cards actually jad some requirements to summon. Like you'd need for example tribute 3 monsters, Some monsters had more requirements than just 3 monsters. ritual using ritual card, fusion using polymerization, Synchro monsters. At this time the mosters wasn't just ridiculous overpowered and powerful cards required some skill/harder to summon. Nowadays you can summon XYZ,LINK with stupid effects and then keep summoning mosters and drawing cards and summoning more xyz/link all in one turn all with stupid effects. You can easily even summon effect monsters with insane ATTACK/DEF with crazy effects. RECENTLY i saw new fusion cards released and like some of them are soo overpowered and easy to summon. It used to be a fun game until too much overpowered cards came in after 5Ds. Oh and now playing the game they take 5-10 mins per turn and they pretty much playing with their entire deck. DRAW, SPECIAL SUMMON, EFFECT, SUMMON AGAIN, EFFECT, SPECIAL SUMMON FROM DECK, EFFECT, summon xyz, more xyz and then link summon blah blah blah. Boring. My favourite deck used to be elemental hero , cyber dragons and Volcanic.
I listen to a lot of podcasts because I drive around all day for work, this is the first time I've watched the clip of this one and the chemistry was instantly better than 99% of the ones I watch. The topic being Yu-Gi-Oh is just a bonus, instant fan
Anyone played this game since 2004 knows this is yugioh. Konami makes broken shi.. we play with broken shi.. we complain about broken shi.. Konami bans broken shi.. and the cycle continues siimple
As someone who quit yugioh over 15 years ago because I saw this path, there is no solution. The only way to change things is a block format. Konami will continue to print cards and know they are going to create terrible environments for competitive play. UDE did the same thing. Also, wait, in 2012 it was 5 turns for time? I remember it being "time called on players turn" then opponent, then player then opponent, then end...hell I was a level 2 judge as well...wth lol Also another thing that brought Yu-gi-oh down in my opinion, how easy it is to put an engine that has nothing to do with one archetype together with another. If your gonna make these archetype decks so easy to play, they need to be heavily restricted to their type, that way your either discouraged from combining them or force to be creative with the cards available to that archetype.
My biggest criticism above and well beyond any other criticism that there are too many decks that can play through more than one interruption on the first turn and still end on a full board with several negates ready to go. Second biggest criticism is that there are a lot of decks with way too many special summons in one turn. For a casual player it makes it hard to keep up with all of the different effects spamming off and keep track of what’s in the graveyard, what effects are still active, and what “lock outs” are in play and I’m just sitting there waiting for my turn to finally start (it’s boring to watch you spam cards forever especially on master duels). Third criticism is that tonnes of cool/ interesting cards in structure decks will either get removed from the deck you actually play because they just reduce your probability of drawing the engine card you need to start your ideal strategy, or they aren’t used for their unique characteristics/ ability because there are reduced to being material for whatever XYZ or link or whatever summon your decks win condition relies on. It makes the game more one dimensional and makes your deck less interesting. I miss when games involved back and forth a from turn to turn whereas nowadays the back and forth happens all during the same turn. That means your deck has to be hyper efficient at drawing your best cards right away or you won’t be able to actually play since you won’t have the right cards to interact with your opponent on their long ass turn.
NAWCQ was decided by Mulcharmy. EUWCQ was decided by Dogwood. Wow, it’s almost like handtrap lingering effects are broken. I can’t believe it took us this long to realise dog is the best time card ever made. I feel like u need to side Gamma with called by game 3 just to stop it.
The EUWCQ example is a bit harsh. He got Protos Locked for 2 turns. In that example he didnt "cheese" his opponent with Dogwood, it gave him life points so he could continue playing once he wasn't Protos Locked.
What id change for prizing for STARTERS, give them an OLED Switch, there’s no way they giving out 1st gen switches 😂 Jokes aside, get rid of the switches and give them actual money. $1k would be a nice starter and build up from there. Seeing the amazing $1 million prize pool Street fighter 6 gave out was so inspiring to a ton of new players Hearing yugioh tourneys giving winners a switch, like 100 bucks and a trophy after dishing iut $1k+ to build a deck is DISHEARTENING 😭 and that doesn’t even cover the travel expenses, food, hotels etc Things have to change if they want more people to even CONSIDER competing SP10
I've played yugioh for 20 years. Recently quit and went to magic and it is just an objectively better game. Sitting there, watching your opponents combo for 10 minutes and just losing like that, is 0 fun.
For prizing, I think giving rare cards either early or in a higher rarity (like 3 Fiendsmith Engraver, Tract, Reqiuem, and Lacrima in a higher rarity) as a set for everyone who gets top 64 would go a long way. The cards in the different rarity alone would probably be able to cover the expenses of most duelists if they wanted to sell them.
To add to your desire of more hype Pak. Literally your story line of winning the trip to Vegas with Sam and winning a YCS literally Sam and your channel built your hype and one of the largest reasons I still follow competitive Yu-Gi-Oh!
Honestly the thing i would change about prizing would be instead of giving the winner a box or random packs give the winner a custom qcr playset of their choice that has a unique artwork so that no one else would have that besides the winner. SP10!!!
The game has become way too complicated now! They need to reset and go back to more OG style while keeping a few of the new features. Its absolute BULL that a player can make 20+ moves in one go....... 😒
@@easyygo3008 yeah 3 is very limited but i have waited 10 mins for someone to complete a turn or sometimes I get K.O'd without even laying 1 card lately
@@easyygo3008Counter idea, ban any card that allows players to use traps from their hand. So they are back to being used as traps cards that had to be set first.
I was wondering the same, but realised that Pak and Nesh were using green screen, you can see Paks right hand being cut off in some shots, but props to them for making such a good shot for the background, it really looks like they are talking from same place.
For the prizing the best thing I could think if is giving the topcut stamped staples like the once we have on "speed duel" cards put on the cards but instead of "speed duel" like the topcut that they reached like Top 64, Top 32 and so on . Ash Blossom with top 8 rarity something like that so that players will be rewarded with things that you can only get when you top - SP10
I think the biggest problem with Yu-Gi-Oh! especially now adays i think is not just lingering effects, its more so that the meta only has become the same three decks or at least decks that are so obscure that you have no way to stop. Example, just using Master Duel, Floo is a deck that unless you have a way to negate the first card, you're not gonna win or stop it. We also have lots of major decks that while are trying to be diverse, they actually make it impossible to break with Rescue-ACE, Snake-Eyes, and Fire King synergies so well because they all just happen to share a type and have some similar add effects. It becomes a race on who gets the better board first with so many cards that you'd have to have SO many hand traps that you barely have a deck to play. The other problem is that when Konami tries to make the game balanced, they either go overboard in bans and limits, or make very questionable decisions. Its also the matter that the goal of the game is no longer hitting one of the win conditions of devk your opponant out, or take away their LP. Instead the core point of the game is to prevent your opponant from playing either by setting up multiple negates, limiters on their turns, or by just taking an extra turn in the middle of their opponent's turn. Kashtira is the best example of a lockdown that can't be stopped without getting your cards perma deleted and if you let them pop off, then you lockout parts of your opponent's field. Floo would normal summon 3 times during their turn, then when your opponent starts their turn, Floo would Normal Summon 5 times again even before your opponent plays a card. Then you get decks like Labrynth that just avoids handtrap effects because they just set traps from their deck which is a tech that has never been touched. My final point is that most newer cards are too generic with their effects in an attempt to promote custimization, but they can be meshed with Meta decks as well to make insane boards like the triple fire-type i mentioned.
We need more circumstantial hand traps for top players to win. For example, “discard this card to activate x…” which can hinder one OTK “or activate x” to hinder another OTK strategy. This can also work for cards on field against other strategies. This can force relying on intellect than pattern memorization that’s linear. Anyone can lose to a linear match copying a top tier deck and only buy the cards. Snake eyes is an example of a linear play on steroids that simply has a dynamic of defense. Anyone can win with snake eyes. You need decks designed to have choice to consider what to mitigate during their turn or while on your turn. This also would mean a lot more quick effect / quick play cards.
No lie just a Stamped competitive card would be so good for prizing. It’s what they do for one piece and it’s just sick. Like a stamped ash blossom would go crazy. Also SP10
I like some of the duals team APS play, they don't make us or them sit through 5 minute combos. They also bring nostogla and a history lesson using the cards that most people who grew up with it know and love. Cards that are obsolete due to the current 5 minute combo meta.
13:53 Atleast on the local shop where i play, when time is called instead of ending the match there, we implement a "last 3 turn" policy where after time is called, all players can still do a set of back and forth wich combined counting 3 turns. Everything official still applies except that modification to the time rule.
Maybe just make the prizes more unique and keep the population for them very limited. Giant cards and full uncut sheets (side event prizing) usually sell for $2,000 USD or more because the population for these pieces are usually 1 or 2 in existence. It got to the point where Konami stopped giving full uncut sheets as prizes because they were overshadowing the main event prizing (full uncut sheet of ghost rares asking for ~$20,000) and now they just do smaller uncut sheets (like 4x4 uncut starlights). SP10
Expensive things, no prices on tournaments, many games to choose with low price to enter even for competitive formats… I think, they should make something like other games: A format. One kind of format could be something like “you can only play one archetype and cards that mentions that archetype”, and with this, some spice type like “1 joker card of each type (monster/magic/trap)”. This would shift a lots of decks, banlist would completely change, etc. This, in my opinion, should be the shift that changes everything and the change that the game should make so people find more appealing and less devastating for new people
Dragged down into the grave is kind of insane, it can get around a lot of cards since you can discard the card. Your opponent chooses a card for you to discard so it really shines in decks that take advantage of discarding or having cards in the grave in general. I run it in a danger deck
I use to go to my public library where all the kids and teenager would bring their ygo decks instead of going to locals. The public library was a hotspot for younger player. Now no one goes their to play anymore. I do see Pokémon players still.
cash is always king, but if it’s not possible I think tournament-exclusive alt arts or rarities of iconic cards, staples, etc. would be a step up for prizing. they should also offer it to a higher percentage of people who perform outstandingly well, bc Jess’ story of walking out of WORLDS topcut empty-handed is wiiiiild. SP10
Man I was an original yugioh player, I am talking original starter decks, original show player when I was 13 and I played for years until the power creep made the game not fun anymore. I got so tired of going to competitions and facing the same "meta" decks, and this only got worse. I really enjoyed Master Duel, but 1 duel can take so long with people's long drawn-out combos and some essentially locking out their opponents. It got to the point where I would just surrender not to deal with that non-sense. I miss the simpler game play of my youth and wish Konami would release a set of rules separate from the main game to make it more like it used to be.
what i would change in prizing?? making high rarity alternate arts to tournament staples!! Konami is 100% aware, if at least not the Content Creators that work for them, which cards are the most played in their tournaments - additionally, this would easily appeal to more people in the casual/competitive scene imho SP10
I played yugioh back during the yugi Moto era. Where everyone had 1-2 plays per turn. The matches were longer and the plays shorter. I have a solution, limit certain cards and increase the LP at the start of the game. Increase it to 12k. Most people can OTK you with a 2-4 monster combo that can well cost you 8k in LP. At least with 12k Lp you can stay in the fight a bit longer. I feel like people don’t even rely on hand traps anymore because we have all these cards that already offer NEGATE and banishing effects already.
The real fix is like what MTG uses with standard sets. Something to the effect of only the last 2-3 years of cards are tournament legal. That fixes all the power creep and need for these new game breaking mechanics. Konami would also be able to create older style tournaments like MTG does with Modern.
Lorcana prizes include; DLC participation card (alternate art) $60 top 64 Alt art holo Let it go $1,000, top 16 alt art holo Rapunzel $1,500 Top 4-8 Golden Mickey Mouse serialized 15-30k. It’s pretty crazy to be honest.
I'm not sure how to fix prizing exactly, but I think having Konami show that they care more would be beneficial. Giving out more prizes that could possibly offset the costs of travel and time put in to preparing and attending a YCS or higher level competition would be great. Like if you get top cut you should be walking out with more than just a playmat and maybe an exclusive card. There should be boxes and/or packs of products, or more exclusive prizing, more promotion of winners and the events that they attend, having some kind of hall of fame or deck profile or interview of players how make it past a certain point would be cool. Make it more personal for the player, by telling their story, what they did to prepare or over come, get down and dirty with the community as a whole. SP10
no one wants to spend 1-2k on cards,travel,hotel/bnb. just to win rubber and a gen 1 switch
Most of the people spend 1-2k just to go X-2 and drop lol
@@RaizaS94 yet, thousands of people do it all year long? 🤔
@RaizaS94 I have absolutely no idea how they afford to do it, and multiple events too. I make 126k a year, no way I could just keep going to events back to back lol... mortgage, car, wife 2 kids, groceries alone are the same cost of the hotel for 1-2 nights. I can see like 1 to 2 YCs a year, but still crazy to me to just go like X-2
@@jboyzboas man if you want to spend an arm and a leg to win a outdated console, a shitty handbag and a pointless prize card and all power to you. The amount of time the average yugioh player has to put in to just keep up with the meta game is outrageous.
Alongside spending $500 + to play a top deck
It’s not just pros it’s people in droves , it’s to expensive and one turn lasts 5-10 mins while someone combos no one wants to sit through that crap.
Bro in master duel if my opponent is taking 2min to end his turn i just leave. Like bro aint no one got time to sit for 5 mins turns😐
Just hearing how long these turns last makes the game intimidating and not fun. I loved the game and still have a huge soft spot in my heart for this. I had a Yu-Gi-Oh! tournament for my birthday when I was like 14/15. But seeing how duels against people go? Never playing against actual people.
Its a huge wasted opportunity. The game has a bunch of problems but the community is only focused on negativity. Especially pros are caught up with a bunch of stuff they dont like with alot of it being of course bad.
If you find cool people its definitely worth playing in person.
Especially underneath the meta bubble lies a ton of fun. If you go hyper competitive and always want to have the new stuff you might find alot of the stuff bothering. But i dont. Which doesnt mean that i dont long for a banlist.
So many are quitting there used to be 3 places i could go play locally but they are so short on players they cant even host now
@@user-lg5xu6id5j which could just be people not wanting to play snake eyes format. Also stuff like TCGs have less priority for people in times of Inflation.
So there is a huge difference between waiting and quitting.
Also judging from your own perspective and extrapolating that is 100% wrong.
How many videos are made about random joe joining the game? Right none. Do the tournaments get bigger and bigger? Yes!
The YGO channels need money and certain things attract clicks. Its one part as to why you here so much negativity. Just look at the jess stuff surrounding her leaving. The clicks and vids.
Although again. There is alot of valid criticism.
The easiest way to see that Yugioh is "dying" is that kids don't even touch the game nowadays. When was the last time you saw a bunch of 12 year olds playing at a locals?
The playerbase is shrinking, the price for "meta" is sky fucking high and players are getting fed up with Konami treating its playerbase, especially the top players like second class citizens.
At least the OCG is affordable and actually gets interesting products
it's not konami's fault lol they literally just released a whole ass set with all the staples and all the higher priced important cards to deflate the economy and allow people to afford those cards. it's the idiot reseller mentality that ruins it
The whole thing was so bad that Konami had to make Rush duel
Tbf kids are probably using other less expensive avenues to play. They're smart enough to work a sim like Omega or just chill playing modded Link Evo.
This is now beyond 12 year Olds honestly. I was around when it first came out. So many people had to be creative then. Not everyone running the same 3 engines because @konami does cash grabs every month.
Also, we, OCG, can play Rush Duel outside of Duel Links. So, childrens here play that instead. Then, they can either stay competitive playing rush, or transition to Master Rule Yugioh when they are ready.
There's a lot of us older players who started to see the early signs of the game becoming what it is now back in 2015-2017 and we got out around then because we didn't want to be a part of that. Lots of players called us crazy. Now they're saying what we've been saying for the last nine years.
You bring it on the point.
Nah, it was great up until 2022. From that point on, all cards in the meta started to have around 3 effects, which is just too much.
@@DaviRenaniawrong, hand traps, links, 1 card unbreakable combo boards killed the game for me.
Nah i hated synchro level eater days.... whack
Yup
My problem is that traps are essentially useless unless you play a trap that can be played from your hand.
Cap. Labrynth won 4th in UK Nats recently.
my traptrix deck would like to have a word, not a single spell in that thing
@@ChunkyWaterisReal Traptrix is kinda mid.
@@user-fe8gx3ie5vu tryna get on master duel and put it to the test there bud?
When you brick as your opponent plays shuffle solitaire for 10 minutes you know your game has a problem
Only 10 minutes?
@@undeadinside3571 I special summon a GLOCK
Maybe build your deck better lmao
@@SR3TG119 You got a spare $500-$1000? Lol
@@NatureBoi0 for sure I gotchu fam!!! All the secret rares too I got you lmao
Imagine playing a match where the turns are 5-7 mins, everything is just banish, negate, special summon. If you go second, you lost the game.
Wait, you dont want to play a worse coinflip simulator? xD
Completely wrong. Going second is absolutely viable. Tenpai for example. Even Sky Striker is blind-second and effective with the right ratios.
@@frosticle6409 that doesnt devalue the core of the argument which stipulates that the game is nothing more but a coinflip simulator. The only difference is that you need to pay hundreds of dollars to participate and you have to watch your opponent jerk off for 5 minutes.
Going second you are at a significant disadvantage it's very unbalanced handtraps sadly are the only way not to get otked turn 1
@@HDGaminTutorials that’s how you think. That’s not how things go. There are FTKs, but those are rare and Konami bans most that they can find. Consistency is an issue too.
Cost of cards, new or returning players seeing you HAVE to play 12-15 hand traps to even think of competing and one card combos. It does make it feel like the game is becoming more generic with little creativity but a high entry threshold. And this is something that a banlist can't fix at this point.
The most popular and successful format in any TCG right now is probably Magic's commander because of the ease of access for new players AND the fun of high variance decks. You could see a deck several times and see totally different combos each time. Yugioh's power creep is so insane that games are often 1-2 turns and anticlimatic. Each deck has like half the deck dedicated to the same generically strong cards, and every deck has the same strategy of either going first and setting up a bunch of negates or going second and praying you drew the right hand traps to stop that from happening. Either they negate all your plays or you negate their negates. Duels are incredibly boring and anticlimactic to the average person watching, which makes it difficult to attract new players
@@CallMeAirChaps ive been on commander for years now its fun asf. I stopped playing during the end of Tear format, when kash was about to enter. I was gonna return but the formats kept getting too crazy tbh. My favorite format was 2019
I miss the days of making light/dark BLS deck or aggro cyber/monarch beat down.
If we’re being honest link summoning ruined yugioh. The fact that you can just take any amount of monsters depending on the link to make a monster was never good for the game. If you look at other types of summons they all had restrictions.
Xyz- monsters had to have the same level
Synchro- had to be tuner and non tuner and the levels had to add up
Fusion- it was typically certain monsters that had to be fused and you needed a spell/trap card
Pendulum- (I was never a fan of this one either) but it didn’t ruin the game because you at least had to have different scales on each side
Ritual- you needed to have a spell card and usually use certain monsters to summon the ritual monster
A lot of the requirements for link monsters are so generic like 2 effect monsters for example like they’re so easy to get out and they extend combos so greatly it’s ridiculous
the truth
Plus with pendulums at least your trade-off is pretty much having to dedicate your entire hand to your plays to get anywhere,
not to mention being unable to slot many non-pend monsters into your deck since a lot of the time you'll brick and not make scales if you do.
People forget a lot that they were pretty terrible on release until Qliphorts came out and were carried by being a once per turn Soul Charge.
Pendulums are what made spamming possible. THAT is where the game was shot in the leg and they haven’t been able to fix it
The strongest link decks in the past were nothing like Snake Eyes. Snake Eyes simply has the most broken effects in the game that do nothing but extend three different ways on either turn to guarantee they will out resource you, and can abuse the most powerful brand new link 3 in the game that takes advantage of this resource extension.
Facts but xyz was toxic as well because they break the restricion they had starting making strong high level monsters that can be easily special summoned to play broken xyz monsters such as big eye or dracossack
The game is fundamentally broken at this point. Power creep has broken the game, single cards with multiple effects, 90% of the card library is useless, one card combos mean you have to play hand traps, excessive combos make it boring as you’re stuck watching your opponent play with himself and only to continue playing through your turn also. Unlike other card games yugioh doesn’t require resources to play powerful cards so all cards can be effectively used during turn one. Konami intentionally prints broken cards to sell packs further ruining the game. It’s only fun when you play with custom rules like only 5 card activation per turn or any special summons cause LP damage damage or all cards must belong to the same Archetype
A bit late to this, but you're completely right.
I like those rules you added, and I used to play similar restrictions with my friends too, especially when MR4 came out. Nobody liked those rules so amongst ourselves we just ignored them 😂
One fun thing you might try is to build a boss deck and do a 3 v 1 like in the anime. In Duel Links they had raid bosses where the boss was OP, with high LP & timed; but still beatable. And the more progress you and rando's made, the more rewards you earned for yourself.
just gonna put it out there since not enough people do. Good on you to diversify your channel again Sam. These more serious discussions are much more interesting than deck profiles 100% of the time
I absolutely agree🤞🏾
Very true
You know what would make this game successful again? Making it a 2 player game again with actual back and forth turns not letting someone play half their deck for 5minutes for a KTO, limiting the amount of copies down to 1-2 per card in decks to diversify the play style instead of relying on a loop to win, making these cardboard cards cheaper than what they actually are now. If those things would change the player base wouldn’t rely on 9 hand trap cards 6 interruption cards and 3 copies of the same monster and respective spell to start their loop. This game will never change if these things aren’t addressed
Sadly it’s Been like that for the past decade too :/
Back and forth exactly 😊
you would have to Change 90% of decks for this. no deck is build to summon 2 monsters set a card and pass its not duel monsters anymire
Reducing turns to like 1-2min max would help big time.
I think it's a little more than that. I know some of the issues are that the new players don't understand the summoning mechanics because it's too much info to consume. Having the attitude of "If newcomers don't understand this game then it's not for them." Is not gonna fix the game and is only going to drive the game away. I think having multiple formats and actual good support by Konami can fix this game. If we take notes from MTG and why they always do pretty well, people love commander by a vast majority of casual players. What the YGO community needs is our own version of Commander, and it'll be a completely different format because new players aren't going to care about the Snake-Eye meta format that we have going. A 4 player game maybe. It also help if we have formats like goat and Edison, where we have time periods. So new players can play anything leading up to Synchros, or XYZ and so on until Link eera. Small stuff like card text is too small and too much to read are minor issues, I think formatting and user friendly games are what YGO is lacking the most.
A lot of this could be fixed by Konami officializing different formats
@@Nemesis_T-Type guess what? Every single format is official but the player base wants only to play cancer formats like goat and edison, try to play late 2010 with drev and stbl and you will find the funny side of it! 2011/2012 formats are awesome too, 2013 with hat and 2014 with shaddoll BA.
Stop blaming konami for everything.
@@bozeman191 It's laughable when you talk about GOAT and Edison that way because they are what could actually "save" Yugioh, if it needs any saving at all. The problem is that no matter how many people enjoy older formats, if Konami doesn't support them properly, it's the same as not being official at all.
@@chaosthegod konami does support every old format if players request them, we got 2011 format tho in some events, guess why? Players were asking for 2011.
Konami should do for sure something to make it enjoyable to everyone but we are going to see goat/edison like a standard infinite format if they keep going this way.
@@bozeman191 Dude, the problem is not goat/edison. They're fine alternatives to the insanity post synchro we have in the game. The problem is that even with events on these or other formats, the payoff is pityful. Also, if you don't release products focused on those formats, you're not actually supporting them.
@@chaosthegod insanity post synchro? 😂 it was all good until link monsters imho, edison is the worst month for 2010 imo, i’ll repeat stbl format is way more enjoyable.
Yugioh lost this casual player because too many mechanics of summoning were introduced
True, i used to try it in the past but the tutorial just tell you: Read all those card, learn all mechanic we introduct now, try to understand in 5 minute and play the game. it's too much for most new player.
@minhgiangtuan96 dawg I played from 2003 to 2013 and I don't even understand this game anymore. I'm trying to reestablish my self in thw game and it's been difficult
Exactly dude. I just tried getting into it and I can’t even make it to turn three lmao. Ash, max c, this special summon, this link summon that summons another summon that lets him out two cards in the field from his deck or hand that allow him to special summon another special summon😂 it’s fucking ridiculous
@anthonydavenport1841 this is why I'm glad the last deck I ran was twilight dragons which has been serving me well from a pacing stand point
I don’t think multiple summoning mechanics are a problem granted some players will not understand newer mechanics as they come out. New summoning mechanics introduce fresh strategies and content. I think the real problem is power creep and greed. You need newer cards to be relevant every few months and that sucks.
My locals stopped hosting tournaments because people stopped coming.
Take a shot for every time Sam goes “MMMMMMMMM” 😂
Would have been drunk af 😅
Bro I can't unhear it now XD
I enjoy having a liver that functions well
I'm down for it lol. Let's the individual know he's actively engaged in the conversation.
nah bro, that would be alcohol poisoning. lol
3-4k worth of stuff? I don't think that's worth it. That stuff COULD be worth thousands, but you have to find a buyer for that stuff before you get a return. Until you sell that stuff, doesn't matter if what it could be worth, at present it would be worth nothing.
Worlds and even YCS exclusive merch sells fast and easy. If you top Worlds or YCS you're gonna get offers before stepping outside the venue. Worlds in particular will have people coming to you for the playmats and sleeves in droves and if you're lucky enough to win a Worlds prize card the rich collectors will be coming with cash in hand for it. Whoever wins Worlds gets compensated well but I agree that for the 99.9999% who don't win Worlds get shafted
Stop calling them pros they don't get paid they are competitive players
true or expert players. but not professional. Pro = salary for playing a game
And what are you
They get youtube money for it at least
Lot of them have sponsors so you’re wrong.
@@Error50505Cool. They get sponsored to attempt to win a Chipotle gift card.
Im a VERY casual player, so take my thoughts with a grain of salt. Not that itd fix the game, but its insane to me that essentially every handtrap is unlimited but Called By is at 1.
Prizing issue: top 10 players get paid seed (travel, room and food) into next tournament and top 3 players get a case of each pack that is released the following year leading up to the next YCS. SP10
i negate the quitting and summon 5 cards
I understand what you guys are saying about how sometimes the opponent opens with a godlike hand, but losing to a single card shouldn't be a thing. That's one of the points Jess mentions in her video. It feels more like an RNG game rather than a game based on skill. Yeah, luck should be a factor, but it should never be so decisive that it prevents the other player from playing.
How can they not open with a god hand when every single card in their deck is a +1 or search ore recicle and every single card is an engine starter that can result in another 15 cards being played starting from that 1 card only?
@@lucianristache9725 agree. Feels like every card is a one card starter lmao!
Different cart art, different playmat for top 64, top 32, top 16, and one of a kind for 2nd and 1st place, booster box of any recent set, prize card, 1k prob in cash would probably be rewarding.
For anyone entering the tournament a generic playmat for the event, 3 booster packs - SP-10
Cash wouldn't fly for Konami, It's the main reason Konami got the license to make the game in the first place from Takahashi (which the rights are now with his heirs and Shueisha).
“If you let your opponent play the game, you don’t get to play the game.”
The judges seem to get better rewards than the players half the time
top cut or higher placements giving you "points" that contribute to your "duelist rank" (like master duel ranks but that accumulate for the entire year until the next world championship - master, diamond, plat, gold, silver, etc)
a "hall of fame" for winners of different tiers of events
exclusive playmats for higher placements (like the UDS black rose dragon one)
alt arts for relevant cards
exclusive rarities for relevant cards (or even a card of choice for winners)
yugioh x *insert brand name here* exclusive merch (that can't be bought)
travel compensation credit (via airline sponsorship)
accomodation credit (via hotel sponsorship)
SP10
Concerning time rules
Just introuduce Chess Clocks and give 4 minutes a turn
I think d best solution would be d time u give yes cause if u give lets say 2 min then ppl wont be doing 1000 special summons and activate 20x efects, cause if u r gonna ban cards so gonna be hard to ban cards AND balance d game
So basically dont play yugioh? Everything takes 10 minutes a turn, and opponent interaction messing with your timer would suck. Stall decks would take your turn for you and so would snake-eye
3 minute turns
@@undeadinside3571is this really yugioh gimme 3 min turns chess clock an lets T set BABY
Yugioh is not intrinsically designed to function with a chess clock, it doesn't matter what you do the game was not designed to have player time "paused" during another players action, especially at competitive levels
Ygo is Pay-to-win,
Ko-money wants everyone to play 1 format to buy Fiendsmith or the latest T1 deck. Again and again every format T1 or T0. We need to ban together and make "Heart of the Underdog" type format for casual play like Mtg did to make Commander Format.
I don’t play Yu-Gi-Oh! anymore.
I play competitive Lorcana and i’m diving into casual Pokémon. I used to play yugioh in 2019-2020 when Adamancipator was still viable, I spent $800 to build the deck and then three weeks later block dragon was banned. That instantly turned me off from the game, but I’m not saying that’s everyone, just me.
I see now more and more pros from other tcgs coming to lorcana, and after watching this from top to bottom, with all your very insightful information on this card game, I can see why people are leaving.
I wouldn’t want to invest $800-1200 into a deck, spend $4-500 in travels and then win a 8 year old console and some sleeves with a playmat.
I urge anyone with a love for this tcg (YGO) to stay in it and continue to fight for your passion though. Love your content, Sam!!!
I don't know how did I end up here. I played yugioh when I was a child for fun and collected cards. The game must have fallen hard when a pro player is Italian Harry Potter from the dollar store discussing about quitting the game. Harry not even your spells can save yugioh anymore, go home this is not Hogwarts. Konami... What did you do to my childhood?
My friends and I stopped playing competitively due to starting families and the fact that we were not as good as we thought, lol. The game has been pushed towards combo decks to speed up the game but in reality it slows it down. And cards like shifter or dogwood are results of this shift. I agree with Sam that players need to adapt. That is probably the most important advice a player can get.
No one tryin to hear that though
You wanna get cursed out by the mob and get called wrong? 😂
Net decking player not like this wave of truth
Lol 😂@@lionhartcaelum6833
I dont agree. Players dont have to forcufully adapt to something they dont like. Instead the game has to be adapted to fit its players. We are the ones paying money, we are the customers. As soon as a company doesnt respect me im out. I can spend my money elsewhere.
The problem with Sam and all the other yugitubers is that they make a living from that game. They cant quit like we can and they want to prevent others from quitting. Thats their job. If they wouldnt have the mindset to adapt to whatever BS konami throws at them they would need to find something different to earn money and its just normal that they want to continue making a living by producing videos for that game.
Nah, the adaptation should be done by the game that’s bleeding players. People aren’t gonna adapt to a game that isn’t fun for them. This video and this comment is pure cope.
Lacrima burns for game: Aww your so sweet
Spooky Dogwood gains life in game 3: HELLO HUMAN RESOURCES
It's you're* 😒
Ya dude some dumbass did that 2 me the other day. Stupjd life points bs they learn online
I think the thing that urks me the most is just competitive yugioh isnt why i fell in love with the game, it was watching the show as a kid. Seeing all these DIFFERENT and cool cards and decks made me wanna play so bad. And i get its competition, and not every deck is equal, but Jesus, have some originality.
I agree. Nowadays it seems like people are using the same 40-80 cards in different variations/combos.
Like, it’d be more fun if people had an actual style to their decks that required actual skill to work with. Be it the Crystal Beasts, Cyber Dragons, Elemental/Destiny Heroes, the “Roid” monsters (Syrus’s deck), or a deck focused solely on Blue Eyes, Red Eyes or the Dark Magician.
You be happy to know there is a manga series called Yugioh Structure where it sets in a Card shop and 5 characters each rep a typical card player. One of them is the Meta sheep who always plays the top deck and is pretty much the Kaiba. Our MC is the newbie. And for fun, there is the Role Player who acts hurt when he takes life point damage and other stuff.
@@gameofender4463 Thats my thing. The other day I looked this up, there are around 12 thousand cards in this game and only 50 to 100 see any play.
I started yugioh 3 weeks ago after quitting for 10+ years. And now im gonna “quit” casually, and play other games till a new banlist comes out on master duel. I got up to diamond 3, but the turns take too long with insane combos and it feels like a death sentence if you have to go first. If they can fix the OP power problem, id really enjoy it again. Also the handtrap reliance has become excessive
It’s so pointless now. I just tried getting back into it and it’s impossible. The amount of summons, and traps, spells, monsters like ash, max c, etc. and on top of that I have to unlock all these cards by either playing or paying money😂 I loose every match especially when the other guy goes first. People be putting half of their deck down in one turn while I have a cyber dragon😂
Cyber dragon needs better support system in play. I love cyber dragon, but hate that it doesn’t do much against kashtira and tearlaments
Thats why i play Goat or restricted fromats. My friends and I just dont find 5 minute turns fun; and sometimes its just fun to send beaters after eachother for a duel or two 😂.
@@itsonlythatguy
Goat format. The only time you actually care about attacking face down cards lol.
NOT MAN EATER BUG!
Haven't said that in a long time. Lol
Pak my man. As a chess player that actually watches competitve chess. People do not resign if they think the opponent has a check mate thayt often unless its a forced check mate.
It happens a lot in intermediate games but had higher levels the players literally do the 'you better have it and not mess up' because if they do mess up it can easily end in a draw or win when they were in a losing position.
I literally hate when people who say general chess statements like that when the other people in the room just nod and say 'ok' because they dont know enough to challenge it.
I think dogwood is only a problem now due to how easy modern decks are able to put up more than 8k damage on the board in one turn. It was bad before because the opponent could summon a few times under it make a 'half board' still live for the game to go back to them and try to still win the game.
I mean to your point, they don’t know enough to challenge it. I’m usually the type to go, “is that true?” But if they affirm it again I’m not gonna argue with them in the moment if it’s not something harmful. Even if I will most likely look it up later.
Even in classical chess?
@@mryupjup2203 yes, it's not often you'll randomly see people resign unless it's like a mate in like 2 or 3 moves. like I said people would rather force a draw than take a loss.
B.s... if an IM or above blunders a piece, they'll concede the game... it's all board state dependant... sometimes there's no line to a draw...
It’s time for Konami to make the GOAT Yu-Gi-Oh decks top-tier again! Blue-Eyes is on the right track.
HECK YEAH
Dragoon was on the right track
Then generic support came out that made it busted
@@pamoon_ dragoon is only hated because of its protection and negates
Hellooooo, skill drain says hi lmao
@@Blue-Haku Dragoon has a destruction effect with a burn attached to it, an omni-negate destruction with a discard cost and a permanent ATK boost attached to it, and protection from being targeted or destroyed by card effects. Compare to Dragon Master Magia which is way harder to summon, has a monster effect negate with destruction, spell effect negate with destruction, trap effect negate with destruction, and a float into another monster if it leaves the field
@@Prince19912 yuh lmao
People are quitting because it’s not about playing anymore it’s about who draws in to their combo first hand and OTks. That’s not a game
Konami should create a package of staplers with a rarity 'Top Cut' similar to quarter century, something useful and hard to get, kinda easy to sell. Also allow shops to give something from them to players with money refund under a budget depending on attendence reached SP10
17:08 konami needs to make like chess where each players gets their own 30 minutes and when it’s your turn you hit the clock and start playing. When you are done then stop the clock again. That way players can’t abuse other players time
Whose timer is used when my opponent does stuff on my turn
@@mattbell3130 that’s good question. As soon as you ask for response, his/her time will start again if the response takes more than 10-15 sec
@@fulloffool5925 so I should plan to 2-4 minutes each turn to my opponent basically, as it's not going to be super uncommon for people to think for 15+ seconds when deciding when to respond to thing, add on whose timer goes down while I wait for a judge to confirm that it was infact more than 15 seconds they were thinking and that it should have been on there time. I guess my point is yugioh is not linear like chess, it seems super impractical to flip back and forth on timers if it's not digital.
I understand what you mean but right now too there is a unwritten rule that if you play slow then you get warning or even match lose in worst case. If you watch the tournaments then you will notice that players usually respond within 10-15 sec
@@fulloffool5925 I feel like the response time matter less if it's shared time though. I think the issue is there is not really a easy solution to the issue, we can't go turn 0+X, timers don't work really, going to only 1 game sucks, my preference is go to 2 games, guaranteed to start 1 and go second in 1. Remove side decks probably encouraging more interesting deck building. If you win both you get 3 points, if you win 1 you get 1 point, if you win 0 you get 0 points.
Pak is right, he or his opponent didn’t do their homework or testing enough to be proficient with their decks which is why he lost to ghost sister with 12 mins left 😂
TSX1 can't quit the game because his earnings comes from Yu-Gi-Oh. Also, he won't throw trash to Konami, no matter how bad the game becomes, for the same reasons. I mean, he's still looking for their sponsor. That doesn't take a big brain to understand.
Every single pro player and Yugituber that DEPENDS of the game to pay their bills won't quit the game until they find a sufficient replacement.
Quit from competitive yugioh, no the game itself. Learn to understand what you read
@marcoipoqlo9294 I stopped comp yugi a long time ago, I just play friends now and even they won't play against me 😅, we've moved over to pokemon now, it's so much easier and more fluid than yugioh (atm) but maybe just cos I'm learning it still
@@marcoipoqlo9294 , oh, well...
Some of those pro players and Yugitubers shouldn't quit the OCG/TCG game due to many sponsors which finance their streams, videos, and tournament participations. Some of them SELL PRODUCTS DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE PHYSICAL GAME. Which means that it won't be a good idea to quit the TCG if you're selling deck boxes from those sponsors, for example.
How ideal can be to not play the TCG while promoting products for cards?
Sounds stupid, right? So, read again and open up your narrow perspective.
I never got into competitive, an just played with my bros and friends.
@@Timeater one thing has nothing to do with the other jajajajajajaja. So should continue investing in the most expensive Game, without knowing if You Will win something worthwhile? You know that in tournaments there are more than 1000 players and at most 5 of them are the ones Who have royalties from Konami?
You know nothing dude 🤣
The chess clock is an interesting concept. Doing so could push players to optimize for combo time over full end-boards. Shorter clocks with no bonus time could lead to simplified outcomes- Konami needs to realize releasing “better cards” is a lose-lose outcome as it dilutes the diversity of the meta… not to mention it reduces the theory-crafting aspect of the game that attracts so many players to yugioh. Until that (or another *major* game mechanic balance) happens, Edison format is the best solution for anyone who’s feeling disillusioned by the current state of the game.
Pak started playing in 2019 which is still considered “modern yugioh” lol
Don't remind me. Farfa is a questionable individual.
You guys NEED to upload these on spotify!!!
In Hearthstone, when I played, we would say "there is a problem when the deck plays for u and u are not the one who plays the deck" power creeping often leads to that
what happens in yugioh is this they keep making broken unrestricted engines that can slot into the current best deck as a result of this an obscure counter from the past normally comes up to counter it instead of accepting that top players complain that a $2 card beat there $1,000 deck
@anakinsmith4770 that can happen, but when the deck is too strong, the deck plays for itself and the counters that come out are usually fooldgates. When tear ishizu was full power the deck wasnt really easy to play optimally, but lots of times it wouldn't matter because the deck was too strong that miss playing wasnt really a factor and lots of counters were just floodgates like dweller shifter etc and even then the deck had a pretty good chance of winning despite the counters. The same is happening with snake eyes even more with the addition of fiendsmiths. U can t keep printing cards too op
@@iufanboy5970 tear folded alot to zombie world and necrovalley but in saying that tear is incredibly fair without the ishizu cards because it can't be put everywhere
@anakinsmith4770 that s exactly my point, a deck can t be this strong that u need floodgates to even have a chance to play against it. Anyway even tho I still hate tear, it is surely more fair without ishizu
@@anakinsmith4770Tear is never fair. We had to reduce three of its original starters and extenders to limited and take away their level-5 fusion because they would easily gather enough tear cards to fuse into that monster and extend even more to a full-on triple. All of their cards literally floated into brand new boards if you dare play the game properly with raigeki and harpies heavy duster. It made the most broken cards in the game look bad. Not even Snake Eyes was that bad.
Quite frankly, Ishizu is more broken than Fiendsmith. It simply got smacked so hard that its unfairly broken effects are harder to set up now.
Jess the pink haired man quit. What the heck is this world man 😂
Kinda wish Speed Duel was more popular. Duel Links is really fun and the physical Speed Duel products feel like a nostalgic throwback since they're cheaper and the power scale is much lower.
The time rule change should be. Implementing a chess clock to 20 mins each
what about decks that just play on your turn? or just long chains of each player responding to each other?
If I use maxx c and dogwood and my opponent is still special summoning, my opponent clearly isn't afraid of me having extra resources during my turn.
I get the point that some cards are unhealthy but what other option is there especially if you know your deck isn't all that competitive. Maxx c and dogwood gives those semi competitive deck a chance to be respectability competitive
Just drawing the out is never the solution.
And if its working its way into even the rogue decks it should be Pot of Greed banned. Just like most of these cards that are in every single deck, even rogues.
@@thewiccandanu1805
Just drawing the out is literally what spawned Yu-Gi-Oh. That is literally the theme of the main character Yami.
Also if drawing the out is never the solution then the new image of card games is destroyed by Yu-Gi-Oh player concepts.
And drawing the out is the most epic moment (always exciting when it happens )and that is why people fell in love with Yu-Gi-Oh in the first place.
Then cap special summoning per turn
I can understand maxx c, but dogwood is just rule loop abuse.
Lacrima burns for game: Aww your so sweet
Spooky Dogwood gains life in game 3: HELLO HUMAN RESOURCES
All Konami has to do is have Goat and Edison world championships as well. Everyone would jump back in.
That would be no different than here. In Goat 90% of the decks would be Chaos Good stuff and for Edison Tengu Plant yk
@tomkohler919 You know how many new strategies were developed, just this year alone for Edison? And banlists do exist.
It will only work once or twice but will no longer work afterwards since these are very old formats and the only people that would gladly play it often are mainly nostalgics or those looking for a escape valve
A better solution would be basically adding the Domain or Trinity formats but these are unviable outside casual play and don't really fit a competitive setting
@@tomkohler919how about Edison and goat with rotating banlists 🧐
Cash prizes too would be nuts
I’m just a casual viewer. I’ll watch some pack openings and some clips from competitions on TH-cam and stuff like that. But honestly, thinking that some of the people I watch are spending the same amount of time that they’d spend at work practicing this card game, only to win a game mat feels insane to me. Like, 20 years in the future, when you look back at your career and all you’ve earned is a bunch of mats is ridiculous and unfair.
It stopped being fun awhile ago, i switched to magic the gathering and honestly now like it much better. Far more relaxed and not just 30 minute turn 1 wins each game
Answer to dogwood/shifter. Allow called by back at 3
Called by at 3 is insane tho lol
2 is enough hahahha
Called by at 3 could make it harder to combat combo decks. Even two is broken if you open both first turn.
Maybe just ban shifter dogwood and all the fcking 1 card combos
There shouldnt be a world with 3 Called By
Fiend smith should of just been an archtype by itself
Engine time baby. Splash it into everything
I loved Yu-Gi-Oh up to 5Ds.
At that time powerful cards actually jad some requirements to summon.
Like you'd need for example tribute 3 monsters,
Some monsters had more requirements than just 3 monsters.
ritual using ritual card,
fusion using polymerization,
Synchro monsters.
At this time the mosters wasn't just ridiculous overpowered and powerful cards required some skill/harder to summon.
Nowadays you can summon XYZ,LINK with stupid effects and then keep summoning mosters and drawing cards and summoning more xyz/link all in one turn all with stupid effects.
You can easily even summon effect monsters with insane ATTACK/DEF with crazy effects.
RECENTLY i saw new fusion cards released and like some of them are soo overpowered and easy to summon.
It used to be a fun game until too much overpowered cards came in after 5Ds.
Oh and now playing the game they take 5-10 mins per turn and they pretty much playing with their entire deck.
DRAW, SPECIAL SUMMON, EFFECT, SUMMON AGAIN, EFFECT, SPECIAL SUMMON FROM DECK, EFFECT, summon xyz, more xyz and then link summon blah blah blah.
Boring.
My favourite deck used to be elemental hero , cyber dragons and Volcanic.
I listen to a lot of podcasts because I drive around all day for work, this is the first time I've watched the clip of this one and the chemistry was instantly better than 99% of the ones I watch. The topic being Yu-Gi-Oh is just a bonus, instant fan
When a card game turns in a coinflip just for the sake of seeing someone playing solitario you know something is wrong.
not me crying while watching the intro
Anyone played this game since 2004 knows this is yugioh. Konami makes broken shi.. we play with broken shi.. we complain about broken shi.. Konami bans broken shi.. and the cycle continues siimple
As someone who quit yugioh over 15 years ago because I saw this path, there is no solution. The only way to change things is a block format. Konami will continue to print cards and know they are going to create terrible environments for competitive play. UDE did the same thing. Also, wait, in 2012 it was 5 turns for time? I remember it being "time called on players turn" then opponent, then player then opponent, then end...hell I was a level 2 judge as well...wth lol
Also another thing that brought Yu-gi-oh down in my opinion, how easy it is to put an engine that has nothing to do with one archetype together with another. If your gonna make these archetype decks so easy to play, they need to be heavily restricted to their type, that way your either discouraged from combining them or force to be creative with the cards available to that archetype.
Bro has been not playing longer than he played 😂
@@s4ds4d competitive, yes. Casually, I never stopped truly paying attention.
That's what getting to quit? Blanket effect? Nah those aren't even an issue compared to 10 minute turns
My biggest criticism above and well beyond any other criticism that there are too many decks that can play through more than one interruption on the first turn and still end on a full board with several negates ready to go. Second biggest criticism is that there are a lot of decks with way too many special summons in one turn. For a casual player it makes it hard to keep up with all of the different effects spamming off and keep track of what’s in the graveyard, what effects are still active, and what “lock outs” are in play and I’m just sitting there waiting for my turn to finally start (it’s boring to watch you spam cards forever especially on master duels). Third criticism is that tonnes of cool/ interesting cards in structure decks will either get removed from the deck you actually play because they just reduce your probability of drawing the engine card you need to start your ideal strategy, or they aren’t used for their unique characteristics/ ability because there are reduced to being material for whatever XYZ or link or whatever summon your decks win condition relies on. It makes the game more one dimensional and makes your deck less interesting.
I miss when games involved back and forth a from turn to turn whereas nowadays the back and forth happens all during the same turn. That means your deck has to be hyper efficient at drawing your best cards right away or you won’t be able to actually play since you won’t have the right cards to interact with your opponent on their long ass turn.
NAWCQ was decided by Mulcharmy. EUWCQ was decided by Dogwood. Wow, it’s almost like handtrap lingering effects are broken. I can’t believe it took us this long to realise dog is the best time card ever made. I feel like u need to side Gamma with called by game 3 just to stop it.
The EUWCQ example is a bit harsh. He got Protos Locked for 2 turns. In that example he didnt "cheese" his opponent with Dogwood, it gave him life points so he could continue playing once he wasn't Protos Locked.
What id change for prizing for STARTERS, give them an OLED Switch, there’s no way they giving out 1st gen switches 😂
Jokes aside, get rid of the switches and give them actual money. $1k would be a nice starter and build up from there. Seeing the amazing $1 million prize pool Street fighter 6 gave out was so inspiring to a ton of new players
Hearing yugioh tourneys giving winners a switch, like 100 bucks and a trophy after dishing iut $1k+ to build a deck is DISHEARTENING 😭 and that doesn’t even cover the travel expenses, food, hotels etc
Things have to change if they want more people to even CONSIDER competing
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49:07 leave the boy alone lol
I've played yugioh for 20 years. Recently quit and went to magic and it is just an objectively better game. Sitting there, watching your opponents combo for 10 minutes and just losing like that, is 0 fun.
For prizing, I think giving rare cards either early or in a higher rarity (like 3 Fiendsmith Engraver, Tract, Reqiuem, and Lacrima in a higher rarity) as a set for everyone who gets top 64 would go a long way. The cards in the different rarity alone would probably be able to cover the expenses of most duelists if they wanted to sell them.
Honestly these are the same discussions for years. Konami needs to get it head out of its ass...
alot of pro players quited and nobody gave a crap, the trans person quitted and every1 jumped on their toes, in what world we live in thats pathetic
To add to your desire of more hype Pak. Literally your story line of winning the trip to Vegas with Sam and winning a YCS literally Sam and your channel built your hype and one of the largest reasons I still follow competitive Yu-Gi-Oh!
Honestly the thing i would change about prizing would be instead of giving the winner a box or random packs give the winner a custom qcr playset of their choice that has a unique artwork so that no one else would have that besides the winner. SP10!!!
The game has become way too complicated now! They need to reset and go back to more OG style while keeping a few of the new features.
Its absolute BULL that a player can make 20+ moves in one go....... 😒
Limit special summon to 5 being able to infinitely special summon has ruined the game
Setting 3 and passing multiple times per game isn't playing the game either
@@easyygo3008 yeah 3 is very limited but i have waited 10 mins for someone to complete a turn or sometimes I get K.O'd without even laying 1 card lately
@@kevinriddell2011
Play the correct assortment of hand traps. That's how pros beat variance as much as possible, they even say so in this video
@@easyygo3008Counter idea, ban any card that allows players to use traps from their hand. So they are back to being used as traps cards that had to be set first.
limit special summons or the game will die. End of story.
Fenrir Pass Tier 0
I am so confused how they recorded this video...
I was wondering the same, but realised that Pak and Nesh were using green screen, you can see Paks right hand being cut off in some shots, but props to them for making such a good shot for the background, it really looks like they are talking from same place.
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For the prizing the best thing I could think if is giving the topcut stamped staples like the once we have on "speed duel" cards put on the cards but instead of "speed duel" like the topcut that they reached like Top 64, Top 32 and so on . Ash Blossom with top 8 rarity something like that so that players will be rewarded with things that you can only get when you top - SP10
I think the biggest problem with Yu-Gi-Oh! especially now adays i think is not just lingering effects, its more so that the meta only has become the same three decks or at least decks that are so obscure that you have no way to stop. Example, just using Master Duel, Floo is a deck that unless you have a way to negate the first card, you're not gonna win or stop it. We also have lots of major decks that while are trying to be diverse, they actually make it impossible to break with Rescue-ACE, Snake-Eyes, and Fire King synergies so well because they all just happen to share a type and have some similar add effects. It becomes a race on who gets the better board first with so many cards that you'd have to have SO many hand traps that you barely have a deck to play. The other problem is that when Konami tries to make the game balanced, they either go overboard in bans and limits, or make very questionable decisions. Its also the matter that the goal of the game is no longer hitting one of the win conditions of devk your opponant out, or take away their LP. Instead the core point of the game is to prevent your opponant from playing either by setting up multiple negates, limiters on their turns, or by just taking an extra turn in the middle of their opponent's turn. Kashtira is the best example of a lockdown that can't be stopped without getting your cards perma deleted and if you let them pop off, then you lockout parts of your opponent's field. Floo would normal summon 3 times during their turn, then when your opponent starts their turn, Floo would Normal Summon 5 times again even before your opponent plays a card. Then you get decks like Labrynth that just avoids handtrap effects because they just set traps from their deck which is a tech that has never been touched. My final point is that most newer cards are too generic with their effects in an attempt to promote custimization, but they can be meshed with Meta decks as well to make insane boards like the triple fire-type i mentioned.
He* quit, jess got a adams apple yall need to chill
It took me a second to figure it out but I knew something fishy was going on lol
Didn't MBT just make the exact same video
Same topic but this is a much longer and podcast style discussion.
3 musketeers is bigger than MBT. What u on about
yes. all the big yugitubers just copy each others content
Ngl i quit over 2 years ago and moved to mtg
Yeah. Yu-Gi-Oh has lost all it's flavor for me.
> I left my abusive husband for a worse one
Bro why, their are better options.
@@hunterapena
MTG is way better built than Yu-Gi-Oh. Anyone who has played both deeply knows this.
@@jondoe8014 Nah, that's just your opinion and you don't speak for "anyone" but yourself.
@@jondoe8014 yeah but the company is way worse and greedier
We need more circumstantial hand traps for top players to win. For example, “discard this card to activate x…” which can hinder one OTK “or activate x” to hinder another OTK strategy. This can also work for cards on field against other strategies. This can force relying on intellect than pattern memorization that’s linear. Anyone can lose to a linear match copying a top tier deck and only buy the cards. Snake eyes is an example of a linear play on steroids that simply has a dynamic of defense. Anyone can win with snake eyes. You need decks designed to have choice to consider what to mitigate during their turn or while on your turn. This also would mean a lot more quick effect / quick play cards.
No lie just a Stamped competitive card would be so good for prizing. It’s what they do for one piece and it’s just sick. Like a stamped ash blossom would go crazy. Also SP10
Its the same thing over and over again... One Yu Gi Oh content creater complaining again and again... Konami always cared about our wallets...
Jessica is a guy Wake up
I like some of the duals team APS play, they don't make us or them sit through 5 minute combos. They also bring nostogla and a history lesson using the cards that most people who grew up with it know and love. Cards that are obsolete due to the current 5 minute combo meta.
13:53 Atleast on the local shop where i play, when time is called instead of ending the match there, we implement a "last 3 turn" policy where after time is called, all players can still do a set of back and forth wich combined counting 3 turns. Everything official still applies except that modification to the time rule.
Maybe just make the prizes more unique and keep the population for them very limited. Giant cards and full uncut sheets (side event prizing) usually sell for $2,000 USD or more because the population for these pieces are usually 1 or 2 in existence. It got to the point where Konami stopped giving full uncut sheets as prizes because they were overshadowing the main event prizing (full uncut sheet of ghost rares asking for ~$20,000) and now they just do smaller uncut sheets (like 4x4 uncut starlights).
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Expensive things, no prices on tournaments, many games to choose with low price to enter even for competitive formats…
I think, they should make something like other games: A format.
One kind of format could be something like “you can only play one archetype and cards that mentions that archetype”, and with this, some spice type like “1 joker card of each type (monster/magic/trap)”. This would shift a lots of decks, banlist would completely change, etc.
This, in my opinion, should be the shift that changes everything and the change that the game should make so people find more appealing and less devastating for new people
Dragged down into the grave is kind of insane, it can get around a lot of cards since you can discard the card. Your opponent chooses a card for you to discard so it really shines in decks that take advantage of discarding or having cards in the grave in general. I run it in a danger deck
I use to go to my public library where all the kids and teenager would bring their ygo decks instead of going to locals. The public library was a hotspot for younger player. Now no one goes their to play anymore. I do see Pokémon players still.
Dude I think the best way to fix pricing is just give the highest priced card in a certain set for like top 30 players in a nationals. Or smth
cash is always king, but if it’s not possible I think tournament-exclusive alt arts or rarities of iconic cards, staples, etc. would be a step up for prizing. they should also offer it to a higher percentage of people who perform outstandingly well, bc Jess’ story of walking out of WORLDS topcut empty-handed is wiiiiild. SP10
Man I was an original yugioh player, I am talking original starter decks, original show player when I was 13 and I played for years until the power creep made the game not fun anymore. I got so tired of going to competitions and facing the same "meta" decks, and this only got worse. I really enjoyed Master Duel, but 1 duel can take so long with people's long drawn-out combos and some essentially locking out their opponents. It got to the point where I would just surrender not to deal with that non-sense. I miss the simpler game play of my youth and wish Konami would release a set of rules separate from the main game to make it more like it used to be.
You should make a playlist of the Tech Talks or add it to the video title. Love these videos
what i would change in prizing?? making high rarity alternate arts to tournament staples!! Konami is 100% aware, if at least not the Content Creators that work for them, which cards are the most played in their tournaments - additionally, this would easily appeal to more people in the casual/competitive scene imho
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I played yugioh back during the yugi Moto era. Where everyone had 1-2 plays per turn. The matches were longer and the plays shorter. I have a solution, limit certain cards and increase the LP at the start of the game. Increase it to 12k. Most people can OTK you with a 2-4 monster combo that can well cost you 8k in LP. At least with 12k Lp you can stay in the fight a bit longer. I feel like people don’t even rely on hand traps anymore because we have all these cards that already offer NEGATE and banishing effects already.
The real fix is like what MTG uses with standard sets. Something to the effect of only the last 2-3 years of cards are tournament legal. That fixes all the power creep and need for these new game breaking mechanics. Konami would also be able to create older style tournaments like MTG does with Modern.
Lorcana prizes include;
DLC participation card (alternate art) $60
top 64 Alt art holo Let it go $1,000,
top 16 alt art holo Rapunzel $1,500
Top 4-8 Golden Mickey Mouse serialized 15-30k.
It’s pretty crazy to be honest.
I'm not sure how to fix prizing exactly, but I think having Konami show that they care more would be beneficial. Giving out more prizes that could possibly offset the costs of travel and time put in to preparing and attending a YCS or higher level competition would be great. Like if you get top cut you should be walking out with more than just a playmat and maybe an exclusive card. There should be boxes and/or packs of products, or more exclusive prizing, more promotion of winners and the events that they attend, having some kind of hall of fame or deck profile or interview of players how make it past a certain point would be cool. Make it more personal for the player, by telling their story, what they did to prepare or over come, get down and dirty with the community as a whole. SP10