Make Some Transfer Screws
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 พ.ย. 2017
- How to make some transfer screws on the mini-lathe using some set-screws / grub screws and an old hex key. Transfer screws are useful for transferring the position of blind bolt holes to a matching plate.
This is an easy and fun simple project for the lathe. A great tool to have in your toolbox too! - แนวปฏิบัติและการใช้ชีวิต
Hello John. The last transfer screws we made were for a new back plate for the addition of a 5C collet holding lathe chuck made three of them but really just for a single function these you are making will come in handy as we love the WONT GET LOST handle carry case wrench kit. Cool sound effects on the quenching after fire. You installed your three to your chuck just like we did for the 5C Collet Chuck transfer.
Brilliant idea. I will be making some sets this summer. Thanks so much for sharing and saving me a ton of money.
Very well done. I am trying to get my older Taiwan made ENCO 1340 lathe set up now. This will definitely be one of my first projects.
That was a pleasure to watch, love your work John.
I would not have thought of that/this solution, perhaps in the future I will. I think I may have done marking out and then ended up making a mistake. This works well, so well done John. Cheers from John, Australia. Thumbs up!
I like your method. Great way to make transfer screws for the more unusual thread sizes.
Great technique for making the pieces Thank you
John I really liked this project i have an ER32 collet holder which i need to mount on a back plate for my lathe. I wanted transfer screws however I balk at the really prohibitive Global shipping costs to Australia which more than double an already expensive price. I will use your method. Thankyou
Very useful video, thanks!!
Very clever, thanks for sharing.
Finally got around to watching this as I need some transfer screws. Nice video John.
Nice, well done!
Thanks for watching Stefan!
I'm addicted to silver soldering now I have it mastered!
It's so much fun when it works properly.
Nicely done and very neat. Another project to do.
Very handy! Nice job John!
Thanks for watching Ian!
In a galaxy far far away we have chipmunks that share their knowledge with the rebel alliance. May the nuts be with you!
Cool tool, thanks for sharing.
Excellent !
Another job for my to- do list !
If it's like mine, it is only limited in length by my wife's memory! :P
so far I only have a small set like 10/24 and thought if I needed one for a 3/8 hole I would use a 3/8 bolt thread and tap it for my 10/24 transfer screws, you did a great job on the build
I'll probably never use them again, but it was a fun project anyway.
Thanks for watching!
"This thing needs a handle to stop it spinning": Joe Piezinsky made a set of handles for his tail stock die by machining the head of a longish hex head bolt to remove the hex (for comfort) and machined the threaded part short (to fit the holder) and just screwed them in. Very good job, so is yours. I must make a set of these up - your design is fantastic; it means I could make up a full set (whatever that may be) of transfer screws (metric and imperial) and and I can repair them if necessary, so: full marks to you!
Great Job. Very Correct. I'm going to do this project
wow great job mr.john
Excellent. I will make some of these....Thanks
Very cleverly done. The US producer went out of business. Your design is a very clean setup and fills a void in the market for DIY home shop players. Thank you.
The design is different to Alexander's (or Nielsen) as they imprint the size of the hole ... There is a set like this for various metric, but the shipping costs, as alluded to above, would be horrendous. I gave some hex brass - now I have a use for it! I will to get some smaller hex brass for the smaller sizes.
Thanks John.
great job John.nicely done
Thanks for watching Phil!
Emma just told me off for not using my tap follower!
You can't get away with anything these days!!
lol
Great stuff thanks for sharing
Nice work. One interesting thing about lathing videos is that on vintage machines one could guess from which country it is just looking at the type of the QCTP. Italy, Switzerland, UK and the US, each country had a leading maker. I suppose that Australia has mostly the UK type.
Very good. Nice job.
I like it, another project to add to the ever growing list.
I know!
Every job I finish seems to lead to two more I want to do!!
Thanks for watching Steve!
Great job.
Very well detailed video.
Thankyou for watching. It's really exciting to get feedback.
Really nice job john👍👍
Thanks for watching James. I'm glad you enjoyed it! I hope it ends up being useful.
Great setup
Well done. I like it. Guess i will have to make some.
Thanks for watching Randy.
You could add them to your product range!
They wouldn't take long to do on your turret lathe.
Wish I new how to machine. Love to watch machining vid’s . This one gives me an idea how to do transfer’s.
Very useful, I'll try making some :)
Well done John.
Thanks Marcel, I'm glad you enjoyed it.
Thanks for watching!!
Very Nice, thanks for sharing!
I'm glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching!!!
this is what i needed super idea
And now that timing is less critical than for my previous post, I really like this project. It's the kind of tool I need once in a while but am too cheap to just buy.
J.D. Luke
Wonderful!!!
Very nice and comes with its own presentation case. If you need someone to gift it to 😊
That's a really neat project- very clever using a socket head screw as the driver. Machine Nut Del sent me here by the way!
Oh did he! That’s very nice of him.
first i need to make gravers now these today is full of things i need lol thanks for sharing :)
Noway Jerk - me too!
If you haven't seen it, Metal Tips and Tricks have a very interesting video on how to use gravers also.
It's probably about a year back I think.
nice work thanks
I made mine by making a fixture to chuck them up and cut the hex with an index head, then turned the point with a lathe. All one piece that way and by using socket head cap screws to start they are good and tough. Have lasted for years. I did not make the holder as I already had some made commercially that I utilized. I did make several sizes and lengths and keep everything in a plastic case. Very worthwhile project.
I was thinking of doing it that way initially also.
Thanks for watching!
Brilliant
Nice work! Im a bit lazier so always trying to save some time. My current plan is to use some aluminum hex stock I have here along with extra 8mm bolts turned down to a point and parted off. Then drill & tap the hex stock 1/3 the length of the 8mm threaded bolts I just tapered and parted and screw them into the hex stock then put the assembly in my mills vice and make a flat, turn to next side of the hex stock and make another flat and so on. Should be quicker and stronger(though it probably wouldnt matter) than braising plus my hex keys will be safe!
Chris Hax good luck!
I’ve made a couple of different sets now and they are surprisingly quick to make.
I always seem to have plenty of random hex keys kicking around.
Nice project John 👍🏼
Thanks for watching.
You have a really cool channel. Subscribed!!!
Thanks John!, I appreciate ya! 😊
Hello there Sir John from a Protea and a Springbok.
This is so very noice, practical and perfect for the job. ( Hope we got the "phonetics" right :-)) Brilliant. One of those......"now why didn't I think of that" projects. I made a couple previously, they worked rather clumsily, got the job done fairly satisfactorily and were stashed. However, these U made were absolutely classic with the Wench to go with !!! Oooops !!! Wrench, Sire.
Thanks a zillion for showing and sharing. Much appreciated as we have subscribed with a hefty Thumbs up.
ATB
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aR M thanks so much for the lovely comment!
Hi John, here from South America, just I was needing, I was looking for a precise way to transfer screws to a disc adapter so I can use my new 4 jaws chuck in my new_old Hobbymat MD65 desktop mini lathe that I just got. I bought a 1988 Hobbymay MD65 mini lathe, east germany made (PROXXON west Germany sister company now reuned since 1990), but 100% new, well stored for years, so not used at all. Lucky me. So, thanks a lot for your so clear, precise and intelligent solution that you are sharing, I love it !!!. The chemical products you used to clean up the parts to solder them, is kind of complicate to me to find them here, so I will do an installation with interference tolerance, I hope it will work. Mario.
Hi Mario, as long as the parts are clean you should be able to braze them ok. I think interference fit would be ok or if not you could just add some epoxy or loctite. Thanks for your comment.
Nicely done...!!! ;)
Thankyou Pierre! As you can see from my videos I use your hammer all the time!
One of my favourite tools!!
Noticed...!!! It really pleases us to see it being used and appreciated, this was the whole idea behind all the trouble of making a upper grade tool... ;)
Great job
Thanks for watching Steve!
I'm building a metal homebuilt airplane. I often need to transfer screw hole locations on to panels. This will be brilliant! Thank you.
That sound like quite a project! Sounds like it would be a great youtube channel!
Ingenious!
Nicely done! Could use some right now. Bit late for a STICKAA........
Good video there Alvin,lol. I'm going to look for some Stay Silv seems easy to use.
Yeah it's great. I found it on Amazon. Much better than the white stuff.
that is so bad ass.
Great project...just added to my list...bob
I recently saw someone who did it by just making a little hardened point that fits in the hex socket. They used a magnet to remove it.
I still like mine but it’s a quicker solution.
I like yours as well...they are identical to the ones I already have (I bought them years ago)...no need to break up the set (: ...bob
did you ding the side of your brand new tool while you were demoing it on the grub screw?
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I'm going to have to make something like this now.
It’s a fun little project!
love the Chipmunk commentary... lol
I'm back - just a thought: when you machine the handle/transfer screw, you could machine it to get your 1 mm depth (perhaps don't take off quite so much off the handle) when you screw the transfer screw in to the part to be drilled and tapped...
That’s a good idea!
We make a tool to make a tool. Lol. Great work and well thought out.
Very nice, one question, at about 6:10, how did you manage to play the harmonica and operate the lathe at the same time LOL.
greg wood LOL!
I think that’s my son practicing his sax 🎷
I am really keen to make a few sets of these, it really looks great. I see you say you solder the allen keys into the grub screws. Was it silver solder or normal lead solder?
Silver solder
That was great , I have a questions.
Did you put solder into the hex with the flux or did you apply it to the side when hot?
It's a long time ago, but probably I put a little bit in the hole with the flux. What normally happens with that kind of stuff is that the flux boils and blows the part you are trying to solder out of the hole and then the part falls over and the solder rolls off the bench and lands in your sock.
Are you grinding the hex key and braising into a threaded socket head because there’s no bolt steel that would be hard enough to make a good transfer tip? I mean, I love and appreciate the work put into this but wonder if you can just take some slotted insert bolts and make em pointy.
You need to be able to get them out from the front.
Just curious: how did you manage to heat the silvered assembly to red hot without melting the silver and screwing up the alignment of the parts?
Eros Nicolau the tip is small and heats up quickly. Also the Allen key is quite a snug fit even before brazing. So I don’t think it would be much of a problem.
I like the extraction tool, mine are just grub screws with a point on them, sometimes hard to get out
Thanks Hal, I came up with the idea myself so I don't know if it's been done before. Probably! Theres nothing new under the sun!!
Grind two small "flats" to improve the grip with a small spanner or pliers.
Exactly! Good thinking John.
Nice work John!
(Are you in NW Sydney by any chance? Planes overhead sounds a lot like my place!)
Yeah pretty much. I never notice them but they seem to come very often in the videos.
Non Directional Beacons (NDB's) are navigational aids for aircraft.
It's fun standing outside and telling people, "Watch that plane, I guarantee it's next move will be a left hand turn in 3,2,1 or whatever the usual turn is at that NDB.
Have a look at this site below and see where there are beacons near your home and then observe the behaviour of aircraft within range of them. It's like an intersection in the sky. It helps you understand why a plane went that way or that way.
The code under the heading, "ICAO", refers to the airport it services.
For example, the Glenfield NDB services YSSY, which in ICAO language means Sydney Kingsford Airport.
vk6ysf.com/nbd_freq.htm
Have fun.
How do you harden steel that is soldered in place with silver solder? Things must move about?
So how did you you do the octagon milling?
You can buy hexagonal brass bar. I had some lying around so that's what I used.
very cool subscribed for more.
Did that degreaser give you a handy rash in your left palm?
Drew Hamilton no.
I don't understand it, but if Creasey says it helps to talk like a chipmunk, by Jove I'm gonna try it.
Great! Now I have coffee all over my desk!!
@@CreaseysWorkshop Whoa!
nice
Why not make precision pins to measure PCD since angle spacing is known?
It's hard to measure because there are 3 bolts, but yes you could do it that way. Also you would be assuming they were drilled on center and tapped on center.
Making those transfer screws and wrench was too much work. I see you have a rotary table and a milling machine. It would have been easier to find the radius of the 3 hole bolt circle on the chuck and drill the holes on the backplate 120 degees apart using your rotary table.
use ammonia ( eg toilet bowl cleaner ) to remove the black oxide on the hex keys before brazing or soldering or welding.
Baikal IZH35M I will try that next time. It brazed very nicely in any case.
Very tidy
Thanks for watching Super Grover :D
Wood idea!!!
You do have a mill and a rotary table?!
Why would you need to transfer the holes?
Apart from that, nice work.
I have an S-12D Wisconsin engine that has holes around the casting around the output shaft), that I would use to fit a plate for rubber mounts. Fitting the plate around the shaft, cuts down the torque effect on the mounts.
This idea of Johns would be fantastic, as I can get the holes just right! And, no. I don't have a mill (megabucks) or rotary table (hundreds of bucks) ... ! I just have to machine the plate to clear the SAE casting, which I can do on my (relatively) small lathe.
Hey dude, are you the John Creasey that Abom79 mentioned in his latest TH-cam.
I have been searching for Australian content for a while but have not found anything that tickled my fancy.
I love watching Abom79, Mr Pete222, Joe Piecyznski, Steve Summers and several others. Unfortunately they are all in the good old USA. I’ve done woodwork for the last 40 odd years and have finally decided to turn my hand to metalworking. Whilst I love the guys mentioned above I would love to be involved with real Oz content.
Join the TH-cam machinists Facebook group. Lots of aussies there!
didnt you have a tap follower??
Yeah, I don't know why I didn't use it. I was in a hurry probably.
GIMME DA STICKAA
J.D. Luke LOL. pm your address!
John Creasey at a concert but will, thanks!
Went with email, it was easier to do that on phone than figure out PMs
I like da sticka on principal. Excellent work, need exactly same to install a chuck on my lathe. Thanks.
He means Chipmunk.
peebee143 yes I spelled it wrongedly.
I've seen much werse wronginess than that, John ;)
Nice work. Be careful when you brush your teeth again!
LeoCascao Lol, if my wife ever watches I will be in trouble!!! 😍
Use a tooth brush to clean the metal shavings
My memory is hazy. But did we go to school together?
Ian Coulston we did!
Sometimes I can't help to think machinists over think things to solve their problems other times I think its to keep away from doing house hold work......
Yes, they overthink complex solutions to problems requiring merely easy solutions.
Or you could buy a set of 200 cone point set screws for twenty bucks on Amazon (B073M14FTD).
Where were you 4 years ago?
Seems an awful lot of work, for something you can buy (in a set of 4 sizes - 6 each of M6, M8, M10 and M12), for £26 from Amazon.
BedsitBob the skills they cant sell :)) i agree on the cost though
If you don’t mind waiting a month for them to arrive.
"Global Priority shipping is available in about 2 - 6 business days."
BedsitBob and how much does that cost to Australia 🇦🇺
Anyway I love to make stuff and this video will also make me lots of money 💰. Which I also quite enjoy 😉
So probably up near a hundred dollary-doos once you include postage and at least a week to get to Australia or make them himself with material he's already got in a couple of hours. Yeah, lets buy them, that makes sense.
Better than watching porn.
GIMME DA STICKAA
Sorry you were not the first.
Thank's for watching!