it's so weird seeing karen and georgia speak like... with their bodies... after listening to the podcast for so long i think i disconnected their voices from any kind of actual bodies
they still do a great job but, you also have to remember Karen is a writer and Georgia was an actor if im not mistaken so they are really good and have a lot of experience.
I honestly believe women are more interested in murder because of fear having it happen to them and wanting to hold knowledge how to avoid it, what we always hear about when we hear about murder is serial killers going after young girls so women naturally feel like that's going to happen, even though it's not statistically prominent. But I feel like men kind of aren't as interested in it because of being interested it is seen as creepy. Also if you're like "oh hey I love murder" to like a girl she's gonna be like "oh shit got avoid you" because she scared that you're going to be a murderer. Sometimes when they're trailing cases for murder one of the things they use against you is your search history so if you've been looking up serial killers they use that against you. They say that you have a fascination with murder enough to want to kill someone and to want to experience the thrill for yourself. So I feel like a girl being interested in it isn't as taboo as a man because we assume a man interested in it will act upon this interest.
Kaitlyn Benoit This makes a lot of sense, but what leaves me dumbfounded is that so many women praise serial killers like Ted Bundy and show irregular obsession with them. it's strange, but interesting to think about.
Yeah, being a horror movie fan back in school was like waking up as that guy from con air, everyone just waiting for you to snap. I never got into fights or freaked out or anything, but i was always getting pulled aside by teachers to make sure i was ok. At one point i heard that myself and few of my friends were on some sort of school shooter watch list. If you want to know more about killers people assume its because you identify with them, not because the're freaking scarry and you want to know what to look out for. More then a decade later and it still bugs me.
Men also (generally) are more interested in action movies than thrillers or mysteries. They are drawn to results, the booms, not process. In a horror flick, men like the gore more, while women like the scare, the suspense. Again, generally (maybe even only a plurality). Women are generally more engaged cerebrally, men visually. Fewer men care as much about the how or why. I think those trends also contribute to any demographic contrast that may exist between men and women's attraction to serial killer stories. Finally, as you touched upon, more men are serial killers. It isn't as much of an alien curiosity to men. Violence, and man's (sometimes perceived) duty to inflict it, is socially ingrained at early ages, with military, football, old west films, insecure perceptions of masculinity.
Ricky Miguel Theboraise is weird, but I think the intellectual curiosity/stimulation is similar to being drawn to Shark Week and behaviors alien to humans/women/civilization. Ratchet it up beyond the animal kingdom if you identify something very relatable in the subject serial killer. I still dont know why it would rise to praiseworthy, except from the perspective of law enforcement assessing difficulty of the challenge. There is a difference between the intellectual appreciation and moral appreciation, or there should be.
Coroner: He was stabbed 36 times, most of them are on his back. Officer: So... we calling this a suicide? Coroner: 36 times! IN THE BACK! Officer: Well, we hear he was pretty depressed. Coroner:
Actually it would’ve been the coroners decision to rule it as suicide since it’s an elected position. Most likely the medical examiner(who would have 8+ years of training) would be facepalming at the conclusion
Seriously. It's a show about the most heinous things people can do to one another but the word "shit" is somehow more offensive to the ignorant and backwards people among us. If they do it to protect children, they're stupid. Kids know the words and use themfrom a young age. All they're really trying to do is curtail the content to appeal to advertisers who are subservient to the crazy religious people who insist on controlling the world around them for random fantastical reasons.
It's interesting how they bleep out the swear words, which really aren't that offensive when you think of it, but don't bleep out the 'blasphemy' (like "Jesus christ!") And no, I'm no a Christian but you'd think that would offend more people than just the f word
Scotland got around that only getting one chance to prosecute someone in an interesting way. When a verdict comes in it can be "Guilty", "Not Guilty", or "Not Proven". If it's not proven, the case can be continued if more evidence comes to light
Denni Wintyr That's great. I really don't like how in the US if there's not extremely solid evidence to prove guilt, you're deemed "not guilty." There is a difference between probable innocence and probable guilt that can't be proven with admissable evidence in a court of law, yet they're called the same thing. Super cool that your government recognizes the difference.
The problem is that it can lead to harassing prosecution of innocent people, as law enforcement can have tunnel vision, become convinced of guilt, and refuse to research other possibilities. So, an innocent person can be tried over and over and over. Not good. It's better that ten guilty people go free than one innocent be convicted, that's the premise of our justice system, the reason there has to be a lot of proof of guilt. I understand how hurtful it could be for an acquitted killer to later be shown guilty, but I'd still take that over any innocent's life being destroyed by multiple prosecutions.
“Fuck Politeness” is the most valuable lesson I have ever learned in my life, and it was from Karen and Georgia. It has saved me from abusive and toxic situations, harassment, and potentially assault. If you’re uncomfortable or scared, tell someone to leave you alone, or leave the situation yourself. I know that this isn’t always possible, due to safety concerns, but if you can ever leave a situation safely, just get out. It’s so much easier to apologize for leaving or being rude than to heal from abuse or trauma. Love you ladies.
wanna hang out? I am a fun loving guy that has absolutely no interest in committing murder.Let's have a nice evening together(and rest assured that the evening will end up with you back at your house, safe and sound)come and have fun in my magical world of not killing anybody, least of all you.
My grown daughters laugh now because they remember me constantly telling them "never pick up a hitchhiker when you're grown because all hitchhikers are serial killers, unless you're hitchhiking, in which case, the person who stops will be a serial killer." And their friends are shocked by the very matter-of-fact way they have active contingencies for the possibility that someone you meet could mean to do you grave harm. But having divorced when they were still very young and always viewing the world from the standpoint of three females on our own, it only seemed logical and necessary to be aware and informed about things like serial killers and other dangers.
while I do like that you taught your daughters to defend themselves, I have to note that if you look into it there is an equal opportunity chance that a woman or man will either be a killer or be killed by someone. I personally am pretty helpful to my neighbors and might help out say an aging clown that is trusted by the community XD lol whoops there I am dead by John Wayne Gacy's hand if I had lived near him. Or I might give a friend and his girlfriend a place to stay... what's that? they murdered me in my sleep after the girlfriend convinced my "friend" to do it? (I like to believe I am a better judge of character than that poor man) My point is that both genders need that same healthy knowledge of self defense and that no one should think it's only their specific group.
Jedidiah McCain so....this is a year later, but they labeled them wrong. Georgia is on the left, Karen on the right if they don't clear it up haha. But yes, they do sound different, especially Karen I think.
what? that's terrifying. the worst thing that happened where I went to school was in the 80's a bunch of girls stabbed another girl to death. three serial killers is just terrifying.
Sure, I'm not gonna give the name of the school but it's in England and you could look it up - and I can't find a link on any info on the third one but there was: - John George Haigh (who went to the school in 1920), known as "The Acid Bath Murderer", who killed between 6 and 9 people (evidence says 6... but he claimed it was 9) by shooting or battering them and them dissovling the bodies in sulfuric acid - Stephen Griffiths (who went ot the school in 1970): we're not sure how exactly he killed but only parts of the bodies of his 3 victims have been found, and in court he gave his name as "The Crossbow Cannibal". So. Um. It's weird that they attended 50 years apart - maybe it's cursed?
I found the school (not posting the name) but I am disappointed though not shocked that I can't find any reference to the serial killers nor the third. It would be more worrisome if they committed their killings while attending but seeing as it's been open for hundred of years statistically it would have the odd serial killer or at least murderer. Many schools most likely do as well just statistically speaking.
Hehe, when she told about her parents and school getting mad at her for checking out a book on Bundy, and knowing how interested she went on to become in the subject, I could only think of my own experience. When I was 9 I got a science book for my birthday. My mom caught me looking at the pages that had line drawings of male and female anatomy. I don't recall her saying much about it, she just took the book and tore out those two pages. That ignited in me a burning passion for learning absolutely everything which exists about human sexuality. It's just as alive today as ever. Everything from the history and sociology of sex to the medical angle to evolutionary biology, if it has even a tangential relationship to human sexuality, I'm all over it. If you want to make something enticing to a kid, just try to quash a curiosity.
Oh my god, at 22:02 “serial killers and how to spot and avoid them” the dude in the audience legit looks at the camera with just his eyes and away quickly, almost like he’s been caught. I imagine it’s a complete coincidence but damn if that isn’t some insanely creepy timing!
i do feel sorry for not-creepy guys who want to know more about murder and serial killings if i'm reading a book on serial killers, people are probably gonna be like "uh okay kinda weird", but if a guy is reading that same book everybody is going to be like "that guy is absolutely going to murder somebody" *sad trumpet noise*
This is basically the Cracked team trying to get their murder stories featured without having to compete with the rest of the emails. I see what you did there. :-P
I love how Karen always advocates for the murderers etc. as being victims in some point in their life (mental illness, abuse...). There is a reason for every behaviour!
I kind of felt like it was shitty when they talked about bad childhood experiences and how it was understandable that people would become murderers or serial killers. It's the the shit that happened to the people that caused it. Some people are born with a bomb inside them and sure, different things can trigger the bomb, but the abuse and horror won't put a bomb there on its own. I come from some real terror, was even obsessed with fire as a child like they talked about, and never killed any of my pets. I actually became a vegetarian at age 9 because I loved animals and living beings so much. I would never kill someone. To use my childhood experiences as an excuse for other people's evil is an insult and I hate it.
@@Cordy712 almost every episode I've listened to they point out that kids get abused all of the time and don't become serial killers. They're not excusing it or painting traumatized kids as future serial killers.
I cannot write youtube comments without a constant stream of jarring internal critique. This is attempt two, and all I'm even trying to communicate is that I think you guys are sweet and clever and I super enjoy what you do.
Im always working on the " live " dates. Now, I know what they look like and Thank you! The humor keeps me going and I know who is who and can laugh at a horrible incident. You guys are amazing and, again, thank you.
6:15 I used to play with fire when I was young not because of molestation but because I just genuinely thought the way it disintegrated things looked pretty
It's not that interest in fire itself is the issue, it's just that psychologists and criminal justice professionals over the years have noticed that a lot of mentally ill people prone to murder have a lot of fundamental things in common. Abuse or some other trauma during childhood, obsession with fire or arson (the second being much more worrisome), animal abuse, morbid curiosity of death and/or dead bodies, social isolation, anger management issues... not all of these things are necessarily bad in and of themselves, it's just that if an individual shows one or more of these characteristics, statistically they're more likely to have violent outbursts.
I feel like they could have gone further into the reason why women are interested in murders. The truth is at a very young age we are told that men are monsters and princes. They can at any given moment be one or the other if given the opportunity to do so. Its a scary reality to deal with as you are also being told that in society you also have to fit certain norms in order to be successful. One if those norms is to look good and be sweet. The very things that are "triggers" or atractive to those monsters. So, the empowering thing to do is be educated on those issues.
I was running out of room above. That's is why my rule book is way different from what it would have been if I was a man. I cannot afford to be alone in public and day dream. I have to be constantly aware of my surroundings and even when I go out to drink I don't get shit faced; if I plan on doing more than normal I make sure I have a buddy with me. I have to watch my own drinks as well. I was taught at a very young age on how to defend myself and once I got older I was given a weapon as well as other items to carry at all times. Sure, there was a time when I felt like I could have done anything; mostly because I was for the longest time taller than all the boys and a more bad ass than them. Things quickly changed once you realize that you are not the biggest fish and surprise, you're the bait.
NightingaleSpica, I totally agree with you, and wanted to tell you how eloquently put it was. I feel what I wanted to say was covered by your comments, so I can move on to a new video now! Haha! I bet you are, or would make a wondeful writer...
@@NightingaleSpica Thing is, the bit about men being both princes and monsters is completely true. Men, especially young men, have a huge amount of strength, agility, and competitive energy. If you don't find ways to get young men to discipline themselves and positively channel that energy towards doing good, things can go downhill extremely fast. The fact that 16-25 is the age of peak male criminal activity AND peak male creative productivity is not a coincidence. I don't think the male and female rulebooks are that different though. I mean it's good that you are sensible with regards to your safety, but that behaviour shouldn't be exclusive to women and we can't afford to let anyone think it should. Sensible men should also do all those same things because in many ways they are more at risk than women in terms of being beaten up or murdered. And if we keep saying that women live in a world of terror and danger that men cannot understand, there is a danger that people begin to assume that that means men don't get in _real_ danger like women and so don't _really_ have to look after themselves or each other. No matter how much stronger you are (or think you are) the prepared person always wins.
@@English_Thespian well said. I will agree that there will parts that simular for both sex; only because we are fortunate enough to live in western countries where women have gained so much in equal rights in comparison to other countries. Still the differences do tend to fall down to nature and nurture concept between the genders. I tend to fall along the idea that there will always be core nature dictation between the genders that will always be around, which will explain certain trends or statistics. I have noticed within the last few years is males tend to have to tackle egos more when it comes to terms of physical activity or strength. This ego of them being "strong", while the idea of thinking things through or using their brain to tell them other wise; is lost to them. Of course not all men or boys but it does help explain why men are more likely to be victims of violent crime. As well as why they are less likely to successfully completed parole than women. Women are naturally the weaker sex, so we are more aware of the physical danger that men can do. So, the above statements apply. I can admit; probably deep down we are all "jelly" with a few things that the opposite sex can do/ get away with.
13:23 when he's talking about the Girl Scout murders and he says someone stole all their donuts and an audience member yells "that bitch" Funniest thing ever
Christ I've had Karen and Georgia's faces switched around in my head the WHOLE TIME I've been listening to the podcast, and this is the first time I realized it. Watching any video with them is gonna be so weird now holy shit.
In a town close to my hometown in Illinois, there was a man who came out of a cornfield, walked through the back door of a house, tied up the family, and stabbed them all to death. Only one of the family members survived and that's because she jumped from her window and hid in the cornfield. There was also a guy who robbed a grocery store in my hometown who, after he finished his sentence, killed the witnesses who testified against him and the witnesses' families and the cops who arrested him. This was when my mom was about ten years old and both she and my grandma saw the robbery. My grandma was going to testify in court but a cop who was a friend of the family stopped her. The cop ended up being one of the murder victims. Then the guy on his deathbed told them where he hid the bodies. He couldn't remember the exact point, but he gave them a general three mile area to search. The search party realized "holy shit, there is a highway covering the entire search area." And that's the story of how there's a highway in central Illinois built over a serial killer's body dump.
holy shit, I am seriously in the biggest shock of my life. I seriously have only seen pictures, and I always pictured the voices coming out of the opposite person. I don't know how to continue living my life. I was picturing it wrong THE WHOLE TIME.
I watched a documentary about this nature/nurture-debate and they essentially already discovered a killer-gene, but it only gets activated in some people due to childhood traumatic experiences. So it's actually a combination of nature and nurture that makes a lot of killers. There are probably a lot of people walking around with a killer-gene, who never kill anybody, because their childhood was great. And a lot of others, who's childhood was awful, but don't have a killer-gene, so they also never end up killing anybody.
I am also from Monmouth County NJ and I was SOOO CLOSE to sending MFM the Beigenweld story for Hometown murders lol. One of his victims was picked up at the boardwalk near my house.
This blew my mind. I had never seen the two of them talking in a video but knew what they looked like, and the voices were switched in my mind. So this whole time listening I had the faces and voices mixed up and I just cant handle it so Im sticking with what my brain decided and never watching a video of them again.
So let’s just cover some basics about the homicidal or MacDonald triad. Fire-setting, chronic bed wetting (particularly after a certain age), and animal cruelty. Two of these (first two) are also indicative of sexual abuse. Which leads me to my next point (opinion obviously because even professionals disagree) which is that, almost always, serial killers ARE made. Point 1: research suggests there may be a genetic predisposition to being anti-social. But a genetic predisposition to something doesn’t mean it will be expressed and doesn’t predict HOW it will be expressed. Point 2: our biopsychosocial environment has a MAJOR effect on brain development and brain chemistry (read anything by Dr. Gabor Mate, he explains this concept quite well). Or refer to the Rat Park experiment. Point 3: There are three types of trauma/traumatic experience. Primary (think of this as acute) when a major trauma happens directly to you; secondary (think of this as chronic) when there’s sort of consistent, lower level trauma happening around you (you constantly hear your parents fighting and your dad hits your mom; or you live in a high-crime neighborhood and there are shootings, home, invasions, murders, stabbings, etc happening around you but not to you all the time); and finally, complex trauma, which is having consistent secondary trauma with periods of primary trauma happening as well. Childhood trauma is the single biggest recurring theme in basically all serial killers. The vast majority of them endure sexual trauma (likely why two of the three triad predictors are also indicators of sexual abuse). AND the majority of them also suffered a head injury. These things combined are what took someone who had a predisposition to being anti-social and made them a serial killer. If you have this genetic predisposition and a normal environment, it is much less likely for you to be one. If however, you take someone predisposed to being anti-social, and you expose them to an environment that cultivates a hatred of and disregard for others (abuse, neglect), cultivates a need for power and control (abuse, ESPECIALLY sexual in nature - one of the biggest effects a sexual trauma has is by someone taking away your power, your inviolable right to the control of your own body, by someone exerting completely their power and will over you, and therefore creating a need for control in the future in the form of addiction, self-harm, eating disorders, anxiety disorders, OCD, etc etc etc but when combined with other things, potentially serial killing), encourages a focus on oneself and one’s own needs being met at the expense of all else (neglect, abuse, poverty), and promotes lying, sneaking, manipulation (neglect, abuse, poverty), etc… then that predisposition is very likely to be expressed in someone as being a serial killer or some other predator. Oh also I’m not saying “poor people are bad and criminals and lying thieves,” I’m just saying, poverty is a traumatic, demoralizing experience that heavily affects people in a multitude of ways, and is just one potential factor alongside several others, and would not necessarily, on its own, create a serial murderer. It IS likely though that through early childhood trauma, this predisposition (this word seems meaningless now) or something else caused them to respond to that trauma by severing their connection to their emotional state. They then grow up not knowing how to feel, not knowing how to respond to or control their feelings, seemingly cut off from them and unable to empathize with the feelings of others. Rather they learn to mimic feelings to those around them to be normal and accepted, possibly even thinking that others are doing this as well and aren’t really feeling much of anything, hence a disregard for them. And possibly their emotional expression can only come out in severe bursts of rage and/or violent impulse. Add brain damage from a head trauma to all that and if you don’t end up with a serial killer, it’d be a miracle.
I found out about the girl scout one about a year and a half ago and it still shakes me up, it's one of the most sad and brutal murder stories I've ever come across. The girls who were not instantly murdered would have been terrified in their last moments.
It also says a lot that men view crime shows that focus on the murderer, while women watch more victim-centered programs. Women are also more likely to watch shows that allow them to try to solve for a sense of control. Women should not have to watch murder shows for survival tips. Damn society, you are bleak.
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When Karen talks about Israel Keys taking hikers from the back of their group, it makes me think of Missing 411 stories that have that exact situation happen!🧐
Just started (and finished) listened to Up and Vanished about the disappearance of Tara Grinstead. You should talk about that investigation, pretty crazy story too.
Brandin Estes it shouldn't be hard to figure out. Find the cost for a couple of large garbage bags like those ones you see in the Home Depot for big clean ups, zip ties, knifes (pocket /hunter's ), latex gloves, standard 2-3 yards of nylon rope, medium duffel bag, duck tape, and military trench shovel.
I'm sure they have or are watching and potential ones as well..... Just stay alert at all times and don't trust anyone and never ever go with them to where they want you to go, Georgie and Karen said it best that it's better to take the bullet on the street then hop in the car cuz the chances of u surviving after that go way down.
Yep, and particularly if there is a group of you do not let them tie you up. Pretend to cooperate then fight and/or run. They are only tying you up as they know they cannot control you or all of you. Examples include Richard Speck, the Lake Berryessa killing, the Manson La Biancas, the Joseph Duncan case where he tied up the family and took the two kids, the Keddie cabin murders. They tell you they won't hurt you just to get you helpless. Also the Original Night stalker and the Clutter family. Unfortunately, all may not live if you fight and refuse to cooperate with being bound, but if you do it without resistance, all very well may die. Having said that, it's always a case by case judgment on who you are dealing with and their motive for doing it.
Somewhat related...have you ever noticed that a high percentage of detectives/police officers are left handed? Wonder if there has been any studies on it? Awesome program
William Edward "Billy" Cook Jr. (December 23, 1928 - December 12, 1952) was an American spree killer who murdered six people on a 22-day rampage between Missouri and California in 1950-51. Cook was the inspiration for the ida lupino film the hitch hiker. cook also made a big impression upon jim morrison. morrison made a film entitled HWY. in it he was to play a serial killer named billy. as the project evolved this narrative was dropped. cook's influence upon morrison continued with his lyrics to the doors song riders on the storm.
I'm just confused why these dudes are reading Karen and Georgia murders... like that's the point of their podcast. It's like they're trying to say "look we can do it too" and also they're so much more boring!
I love when the subject of childhoods shaping adults and if it contributes to becoming a serial killer. If you wonder this, please do yourself a favor and research the difference of narcissism, sociopath, and psychopath. It’s astounding the things that a traumatic childhood can breed.
They closed the girl scout camp after the murders, but the one just down the road to it was kept open. My troop camped there not all that long after. The dads made us pitch tents super close together rather than spread out and stood guard all night. They shot a coyote during the night, but that was it.
Right before you guys talked about Bundy the image of him in a green shirt with white trim gesturing for someone to come over popped into my head on a sunny day it was so vivid... I swear these bastards have powerful spirits... everytime they get brought up it seems like they're around again. After all its only 4 days after his execution date.
Daniel O'Brian is the most mansplainy, interrupty dude I have had the displeasure of listening to lately. There were so many moments where I was interested in what Karen or Georgia were saying and that guy would not stop talking. They created an incredibly popular podcast about this. Ask your question, keep it short and open-ended, and then let them respond, at length, with insight. They had to quip in an effort to be heard.
it's so weird seeing karen and georgia speak like... with their bodies... after listening to the podcast for so long i think i disconnected their voices from any kind of actual bodies
Jeddie Biggers yeah it feels weird to me watching them speak
Same!!!! It’s so strange!
Their names are switched at the beginning - Karen is on the right.
I thought the thin one was Karen for so long. It was weird seeing and hearing them speak.
I just came here to say the same thing. It’s so weird. I know their voices SO well, but not their bodies at all. 😂 so weird
im here trying to associate their voices to their faces
Same. I listened for months before this though, so I had them completely switched in my mind! Trying to get it straight now 😵
@@jamiesession Yeah, I thought the one with the raspier voice was Karen, but apparently thats Georgia
@TakeMyOxygen3 Their names are switched on here! Georgia is in yellow and Karen is in black
@@sunstar37 Ohhh ok. Lol I hate when they switch the names like that.
You identified the elephant.
My favorite part is where Karen and Georgia switched bodies.
When
@@Banananana402 i'm assuming it's a joke because they got their names middled up at the start :)
I noticed that too, haha.
Also their voices don't match :) it messed up my listening of the podcast, but I'm nearly over it.
Omg I just freaked out thinking I have the girls identities wrong!!
I didn’t realize how good of a job Georgia and Karen do until I listened to these dudes try to read of a piece of paper.
they still do a great job but, you also have to remember Karen is a writer and Georgia was an actor if im not mistaken so they are really good and have a lot of experience.
0:27 you introduce them the wrong way round, Georgia is on the left
Pixiekiller Ein I thought I was losing my mind like maybe I had it wrong all along
Thank you! I thought I was going crazy, too. It's taken me months to learn to differentiate between their voices...
shamelesslykristen me too )))
Can you say correction corner? Or corner corner corner!!!!
Oh, gosh I was having this confused crisis about having had their voices backwards this whole time...
I honestly believe women are more interested in murder because of fear having it happen to them and wanting to hold knowledge how to avoid it, what we always hear about when we hear about murder is serial killers going after young girls so women naturally feel like that's going to happen, even though it's not statistically prominent. But I feel like men kind of aren't as interested in it because of being interested it is seen as creepy. Also if you're like "oh hey I love murder" to like a girl she's gonna be like "oh shit got avoid you" because she scared that you're going to be a murderer. Sometimes when they're trailing cases for murder one of the things they use against you is your search history so if you've been looking up serial killers they use that against you. They say that you have a fascination with murder enough to want to kill someone and to want to experience the thrill for yourself. So I feel like a girl being interested in it isn't as taboo as a man because we assume a man interested in it will act upon this interest.
Kaitlyn Benoit This makes a lot of sense, but what leaves me dumbfounded is that so many women praise serial killers like Ted Bundy and show irregular obsession with them.
it's strange, but interesting to think about.
Ricky Miguel that's just tumblr, not aged grown ass women
Yeah, being a horror movie fan back in school was like waking up as that guy from con air, everyone just waiting for you to snap. I never got into fights or freaked out or anything, but i was always getting pulled aside by teachers to make sure i was ok. At one point i heard that myself and few of my friends were on some sort of school shooter watch list. If you want to know more about killers people assume its because you identify with them, not because the're freaking scarry and you want to know what to look out for. More then a decade later and it still bugs me.
Men also (generally) are more interested in action movies than thrillers or mysteries. They are drawn to results, the booms, not process. In a horror flick, men like the gore more, while women like the scare, the suspense. Again, generally (maybe even only a plurality). Women are generally more engaged cerebrally, men visually. Fewer men care as much about the how or why. I think those trends also contribute to any demographic contrast that may exist between men and women's attraction to serial killer stories. Finally, as you touched upon, more men are serial killers. It isn't as much of an alien curiosity to men. Violence, and man's (sometimes perceived) duty to inflict it, is socially ingrained at early ages, with military, football, old west films, insecure perceptions of masculinity.
Ricky Miguel Theboraise is weird, but I think the intellectual curiosity/stimulation is similar to being drawn to Shark Week and behaviors alien to humans/women/civilization. Ratchet it up beyond the animal kingdom if you identify something very relatable in the subject serial killer. I still dont know why it would rise to praiseworthy, except from the perspective of law enforcement assessing difficulty of the challenge. There is a difference between the intellectual appreciation and moral appreciation, or there should be.
The phrase "high school women" activates my fight or flight instinct bc those are girls. Children.
So horrible 😢
Yep! My daughter is 16 & going into 11th grade and she’s still just a kid! “High school women” SMH
Coroner: He was stabbed 36 times, most of them are on his back.
Officer: So... we calling this a suicide?
Coroner: 36 times! IN THE BACK!
Officer: Well, we hear he was pretty depressed.
Coroner:
The scary thing is this shit has really happened!!!
sounds like a police cover up
LOL LOL your commentary is very funny .
There was a case where a man was shot five times in the chest with a bolt action .22 rifle. Coroner ruled it a suicide.
Actually it would’ve been the coroners decision to rule it as suicide since it’s an elected position. Most likely the medical examiner(who would have 8+ years of training) would be facepalming at the conclusion
Thank you for bleeping the swearing; it would have been pretty scary to listen to.
Name of the Rose lol
Gore is infinitely more palatable.
The censorship is just stupid. The subject matter is adult, the language should be too.
I think it's funnier with the bleeps, most of the time at least. sometimes it quite jarring
Seriously. It's a show about the most heinous things people can do to one another but the word "shit" is somehow more offensive to the ignorant and backwards people among us.
If they do it to protect children, they're stupid. Kids know the words and use themfrom a young age.
All they're really trying to do is curtail the content to appeal to advertisers who are subservient to the crazy religious people who insist on controlling the world around them for random fantastical reasons.
Totally.
First time on youtube?
It's interesting how they bleep out the swear words, which really aren't that offensive when you think of it, but don't bleep out the 'blasphemy' (like "Jesus christ!") And no, I'm no a Christian but you'd think that would offend more people than just the f word
Scotland got around that only getting one chance to prosecute someone in an interesting way. When a verdict comes in it can be "Guilty", "Not Guilty", or "Not Proven". If it's not proven, the case can be continued if more evidence comes to light
That's really interesting. I'm cautiously a fan of using "Not Proven."
Denni Wintyr That's great. I really don't like how in the US if there's not extremely solid evidence to prove guilt, you're deemed "not guilty." There is a difference between probable innocence and probable guilt that can't be proven with admissable evidence in a court of law, yet they're called the same thing. Super cool that your government recognizes the difference.
Is that different than elsewhere in the UK?
The problem is that it can lead to harassing prosecution of innocent people, as law enforcement can have tunnel vision, become convinced of guilt, and refuse to research other possibilities. So, an innocent person can be tried over and over and over. Not good. It's better that ten guilty people go free than one innocent be convicted, that's the premise of our justice system, the reason there has to be a lot of proof of guilt. I understand how hurtful it could be for an acquitted killer to later be shown guilty, but I'd still take that over any innocent's life being destroyed by multiple prosecutions.
Oh that’s smart
“Fuck Politeness” is the most valuable lesson I have ever learned in my life, and it was from Karen and Georgia. It has saved me from abusive and toxic situations, harassment, and potentially assault. If you’re uncomfortable or scared, tell someone to leave you alone, or leave the situation yourself. I know that this isn’t always possible, due to safety concerns, but if you can ever leave a situation safely, just get out. It’s so much easier to apologize for leaving or being rude than to heal from abuse or trauma. Love you ladies.
stay sexy
don't get murderd
Ona Doe Hi
Ona Doe mkay
I think you mean mur-diddly-erd-lerd.
wanna hang out? I am a fun loving guy that has absolutely no interest in committing murder.Let's have a nice evening together(and rest assured that the evening will end up with you back at your house, safe and sound)come and have fun in my magical world of not killing anybody, least of all you.
i guess what they say about the youtube comment section is true
Isn't Georgia on the left and Karen on the right?
Carlos Montenegro yep
yeah I can’t believe this isn’t the most popular comment
Yes
My grown daughters laugh now because they remember me constantly telling them "never pick up a hitchhiker when you're grown because all hitchhikers are serial killers, unless you're hitchhiking, in which case, the person who stops will be a serial killer." And their friends are shocked by the very matter-of-fact way they have active contingencies for the possibility that someone you meet could mean to do you grave harm. But having divorced when they were still very young and always viewing the world from the standpoint of three females on our own, it only seemed logical and necessary to be aware and informed about things like serial killers and other dangers.
Stay out of the forest, fuck politeness, stay sexy, and don't get murdered! #youredoingitright
while I do like that you taught your daughters to defend themselves, I have to note that if you look into it there is an equal opportunity chance that a woman or man will either be a killer or be killed by someone.
I personally am pretty helpful to my neighbors and might help out say an aging clown that is trusted by the community XD lol whoops there I am dead by John Wayne Gacy's hand if I had lived near him. Or I might give a friend and his girlfriend a place to stay... what's that? they murdered me in my sleep after the girlfriend convinced my "friend" to do it? (I like to believe I am a better judge of character than that poor man)
My point is that both genders need that same healthy knowledge of self defense and that no one should think it's only their specific group.
I've never seen Karen or Georgia's faces until today. They're not at all what I pictured in my head.
Jedidiah McCain so....this is a year later, but they labeled them wrong. Georgia is on the left, Karen on the right if they don't clear it up haha. But yes, they do sound different, especially Karen I think.
Alexis Conklin haha I was about to say the same thing
I was actually pretty close lol I’m normally not and patted myself on the back for this one😂
I know I'm readjusting perceptions I feel olddd
Karen is exactly how i pictured her tbh
I go to an all-girls school and the corresponding all-boys school has had three serial killers, one of who used a fucking crossbow.
oh my GOD please submit that to mfm as your hometown murder what the fuck
what? that's terrifying. the worst thing that happened where I went to school was in the 80's a bunch of girls stabbed another girl to death. three serial killers is just terrifying.
Maddie Barraclough Sorry to bring it up, but can we get more on this?
Sure, I'm not gonna give the name of the school but it's in England and you could look it up - and I can't find a link on any info on the third one but there was:
- John George Haigh (who went to the school in 1920), known as "The Acid Bath Murderer", who killed between 6 and 9 people (evidence says 6... but he claimed it was 9) by shooting or battering them and them dissovling the bodies in sulfuric acid
- Stephen Griffiths (who went ot the school in 1970): we're not sure how exactly he killed but only parts of the bodies of his 3 victims have been found, and in court he gave his name as "The Crossbow Cannibal". So. Um.
It's weird that they attended 50 years apart - maybe it's cursed?
I found the school (not posting the name) but I am disappointed though not shocked that I can't find any reference to the serial killers nor the third. It would be more worrisome if they committed their killings while attending but seeing as it's been open for hundred of years statistically it would have the odd serial killer or at least murderer. Many schools most likely do as well just statistically speaking.
Hehe, when she told about her parents and school getting mad at her for checking out a book on Bundy, and knowing how interested she went on to become in the subject, I could only think of my own experience. When I was 9 I got a science book for my birthday. My mom caught me looking at the pages that had line drawings of male and female anatomy. I don't recall her saying much about it, she just took the book and tore out those two pages. That ignited in me a burning passion for learning absolutely everything which exists about human sexuality. It's just as alive today as ever. Everything from the history and sociology of sex to the medical angle to evolutionary biology, if it has even a tangential relationship to human sexuality, I'm all over it. If you want to make something enticing to a kid, just try to quash a curiosity.
Dustin Rodriguez lmaooooo yeah same
I would definitely watch a film about the girl scouts hunting down the real killer and taking their revenge, sounds badass!
Phoenix Dresden they got the badge!!! Lol
Buffy the Vampire Slayer. “What if a young, beautiful girl walked into an alley and a monster followed her in… and only the girl walked out?”
Oh my god, at 22:02 “serial killers and how to spot and avoid them” the dude in the audience legit looks at the camera with just his eyes and away quickly, almost like he’s been caught. I imagine it’s a complete coincidence but damn if that isn’t some insanely creepy timing!
Kae P AHHHH
You know, the Golden State killer attended a public safety meeting warning the neighborhood he was preying on......
Whooooaaaaaaa
Try 8:09 They're thinking of a specific clandestine grave.
O_O I have been getting Karen and Georgia's voices backwards this whole time
Y2Ksnowglobe ME TOO!!!
No they literally labeled them backwards. Your ears were right lol.
no not their names, their faces. i expected them to have the opposite voices and when they started talking i was so weirded out
OMG the same
I’m glad I’m not the only one!
i do feel sorry for not-creepy guys who want to know more about murder and serial killings
if i'm reading a book on serial killers, people are probably gonna be like "uh okay kinda weird", but if a guy is reading that same book everybody is going to be like "that guy is absolutely going to murder somebody"
*sad trumpet noise*
Arc Winchester thats why podcasts are great, we can keep it on the dl - those that want to, anyway
@J G Which part of Sexism City is your villa
This is basically the Cracked team trying to get their murder stories featured without having to compete with the rest of the emails. I see what you did there. :-P
It's freaking absurd how much funnier Karen and Georgia are than Jack and Daniel.
i wouldn't go that far
i would.
Hence, why they have a bang up podcast!
1969Vanessa G I found my way to mfm because I heard Karen on the podcast “ the crab feast “ and she was so freaking funny lol
@@melaniekaweck3433
I know, right!
I love how Karen always advocates for the murderers etc. as being victims in some point in their life (mental illness, abuse...). There is a reason for every behaviour!
chrisquisha a reason yes but not an excuse.
Laree Bennett absolutely not an excuse. BUT, understanding the cause might help in preventing the actions
I kind of felt like it was shitty when they talked about bad childhood experiences and how it was understandable that people would become murderers or serial killers. It's the the shit that happened to the people that caused it. Some people are born with a bomb inside them and sure, different things can trigger the bomb, but the abuse and horror won't put a bomb there on its own. I come from some real terror, was even obsessed with fire as a child like they talked about, and never killed any of my pets. I actually became a vegetarian at age 9 because I loved animals and living beings so much. I would never kill someone. To use my childhood experiences as an excuse for other people's evil is an insult and I hate it.
Profilers count on it.
@@Cordy712 almost every episode I've listened to they point out that kids get abused all of the time and don't become serial killers. They're not excusing it or painting traumatized kids as future serial killers.
The camp counselor who dismissed the note is the girl scout equivalent of the mayor from Jaws
We just rewatched Jaws. You are totally right!
oh man this makes me so happy. I love the girls.
I cannot write youtube comments without a constant stream of jarring internal critique. This is attempt two, and all I'm even trying to communicate is that I think you guys are sweet and clever and I super enjoy what you do.
Rich Boxhead, I get you man; I'm the same way.
what the fuck? who hurt you? there are good, qualified people out there ready to help. you don't have to live like that
INFP
Karen: Diet Coke, Georgia: Bud Light. Classic.
So this got me addicted to My Favorite Murder! Thanks!
Im always working on the " live " dates. Now, I know what they look like and Thank you! The humor keeps me going and I know who is who and can laugh at a horrible incident. You guys are amazing and, again, thank you.
A combination of two of my favourite things! Love you all, you adorably awkward, thoughtful and interesting people
6:15 I used to play with fire when I was young not because of molestation but because I just genuinely thought the way it disintegrated things looked pretty
Gay Edits it's when it's paired with animal abuse and bed wetting that it's normally a cause for concern
It's not that interest in fire itself is the issue, it's just that psychologists and criminal justice professionals over the years have noticed that a lot of mentally ill people prone to murder have a lot of fundamental things in common. Abuse or some other trauma during childhood, obsession with fire or arson (the second being much more worrisome), animal abuse, morbid curiosity of death and/or dead bodies, social isolation, anger management issues... not all of these things are necessarily bad in and of themselves, it's just that if an individual shows one or more of these characteristics, statistically they're more likely to have violent outbursts.
Pixiekiller Ein I love fire, I wet the bed when i was a child but i would kill for my dog not kill her
There's a big jump from "playing with fire" to "burning stuff down"
+Pixiekiller Ein don't forget getting hit in the head by a swing...
I feel like they could have gone further into the reason why women are interested in murders. The truth is at a very young age we are told that men are monsters and princes. They can at any given moment be one or the other if given the opportunity to do so. Its a scary reality to deal with as you are also being told that in society you also have to fit certain norms in order to be successful. One if those norms is to look good and be sweet. The very things that are "triggers" or atractive to those monsters. So, the empowering thing to do is be educated on those issues.
I was running out of room above. That's is why my rule book is way different from what it would have been if I was a man. I cannot afford to be alone in public and day dream. I have to be constantly aware of my surroundings and even when I go out to drink I don't get shit faced; if I plan on doing more than normal I make sure I have a buddy with me. I have to watch my own drinks as well. I was taught at a very young age on how to defend myself and once I got older I was given a weapon as well as other items to carry at all times. Sure, there was a time when I felt like I could have done anything; mostly because I was for the longest time taller than all the boys and a more bad ass than them. Things quickly changed once you realize that you are not the biggest fish and surprise, you're the bait.
NightingaleSpica, I totally agree with you, and wanted to tell you how eloquently put it was. I feel what I wanted to say was covered by your comments, so I can move on to a new video now! Haha! I bet you are, or would make a wondeful writer...
@@NightingaleSpica Thing is, the bit about men being both princes and monsters is completely true. Men, especially young men, have a huge amount of strength, agility, and competitive energy. If you don't find ways to get young men to discipline themselves and positively channel that energy towards doing good, things can go downhill extremely fast. The fact that 16-25 is the age of peak male criminal activity AND peak male creative productivity is not a coincidence.
I don't think the male and female rulebooks are that different though. I mean it's good that you are sensible with regards to your safety, but that behaviour shouldn't be exclusive to women and we can't afford to let anyone think it should. Sensible men should also do all those same things because in many ways they are more at risk than women in terms of being beaten up or murdered. And if we keep saying that women live in a world of terror and danger that men cannot understand, there is a danger that people begin to assume that that means men don't get in _real_ danger like women and so don't _really_ have to look after themselves or each other. No matter how much stronger you are (or think you are) the prepared person always wins.
@@NightingaleSpica well said! especially the "cant afford to be alone in public and daydream/aware of surroundings" - its some bullshit.
@@English_Thespian well said. I will agree that there will parts that simular for both sex; only because we are fortunate enough to live in western countries where women have gained so much in equal rights in comparison to other countries.
Still the differences do tend to fall down to nature and nurture concept between the genders. I tend to fall along the idea that there will always be core nature dictation between the genders that will always be around, which will explain certain trends or statistics.
I have noticed within the last few years is males tend to have to tackle egos more when it comes to terms of physical activity or strength. This ego of them being "strong", while the idea of thinking things through or using their brain to tell them other wise; is lost to them. Of course not all men or boys but it does help explain why men are more likely to be victims of violent crime. As well as why they are less likely to successfully completed parole than women.
Women are naturally the weaker sex, so we are more aware of the physical danger that men can do. So, the above statements apply.
I can admit; probably deep down we are all "jelly" with a few things that the opposite sex can do/ get away with.
i love mfm! so happy they're on the cracked podcast
13:23 when he's talking about the Girl Scout murders and he says someone stole all their donuts and an audience member yells "that bitch"
Funniest thing ever
Christ I've had Karen and Georgia's faces switched around in my head the WHOLE TIME I've been listening to the podcast, and this is the first time I realized it. Watching any video with them is gonna be so weird now holy shit.
Me too. We aren’t the only ones... fascinating how we decided who had the rasp and who didn’t!?
It’s throwing me off so bad!!! I don’t like the switch! lol
You can really tell what commenters listen to the podcast and witch ones don't
This was awesome! I wish I could go to a live show, but it was great actually seeing Karen and Georgia like this.
11:12-11:14is like every Murderino laughing for the 1st time during an MFM podcast and immediately feeling like a terrible person lol 😂
I know it’s there podcast, but it would’ve been a shit load more interesting if they had let them talk!
Seeing the names mixed up truly bothers me... my girls deserve more 🖤🖤🖤
I'm loving the look Karen and Georgia exchange at 19:17 in response to the question "Do you have more male or female fans?"
These ladies are awesome and interesting. Definitely gonna check out their podcast!
Why have I never heard of this podcast!? I love this sort of thing, all the analysing of the criminals mind and so on
its alright
In a town close to my hometown in Illinois, there was a man who came out of a cornfield, walked through the back door of a house, tied up the family, and stabbed them all to death. Only one of the family members survived and that's because she jumped from her window and hid in the cornfield.
There was also a guy who robbed a grocery store in my hometown who, after he finished his sentence, killed the witnesses who testified against him and the witnesses' families and the cops who arrested him. This was when my mom was about ten years old and both she and my grandma saw the robbery. My grandma was going to testify in court but a cop who was a friend of the family stopped her. The cop ended up being one of the murder victims. Then the guy on his deathbed told them where he hid the bodies. He couldn't remember the exact point, but he gave them a general three mile area to search. The search party realized "holy shit, there is a highway covering the entire search area." And that's the story of how there's a highway in central Illinois built over a serial killer's body dump.
You need to write that story in! Love to hear the details
I swear to god I thought she was gonna say "As we all know, Fire bad"
it’s so weird seeing their faces while they talk
This is great, but seriously, do something about the censoring. The beeps make it hard to even follow the conversation some of the time.
Kobbe I think the beeps are funny:)
+Cameron Sipka Same
It's so fucking obnoxious and so fucking unnecessary in this fucking day and fucking age. Shit cock etc, etc.
Also, I'm born and raised in Fucking Lancaster PA.
holy shit, I am seriously in the biggest shock of my life. I seriously have only seen pictures, and I always pictured the voices coming out of the opposite person. I don't know how to continue living my life. I was picturing it wrong THE WHOLE TIME.
nothing brings me more joy than seeing karen laugh and slap the table
I imagine Daniel calling home and saying "Mom, we're doing a thing about the serial killer from our town." and her saying "which one honey?"
In the words of Jena Friedman: "Women don't watch true crime... we study it. To make sure we don't end up on it."
My first true-crime book, when I was a 13/14yo girl, was Helter Skelter, although I'd been reading Agatha Christie murder mysteries for years by then.
Georgia is tipsy and I'm here for it!
I watched a documentary about this nature/nurture-debate and they essentially already discovered a killer-gene, but it only gets activated in some people due to childhood traumatic experiences. So it's actually a combination of nature and nurture that makes a lot of killers. There are probably a lot of people walking around with a killer-gene, who never kill anybody, because their childhood was great. And a lot of others, who's childhood was awful, but don't have a killer-gene, so they also never end up killing anybody.
I am also from Monmouth County NJ and I was SOOO CLOSE to sending MFM the Beigenweld story for Hometown murders lol. One of his victims was picked up at the boardwalk near my house.
People are still doing life in prison for non violent drug offenses, but rapist and muderers and arsonists are getting released for "good behavior".
Oh, pre-coronavirus, I miss you. Look at that beautiful crowd of people in a theatre.
This blew my mind. I had never seen the two of them talking in a video but knew what they looked like, and the voices were switched in my mind. So this whole time listening I had the faces and voices mixed up and I just cant handle it so Im sticking with what my brain decided and never watching a video of them again.
So let’s just cover some basics about the homicidal or MacDonald triad. Fire-setting, chronic bed wetting (particularly after a certain age), and animal cruelty. Two of these (first two) are also indicative of sexual abuse. Which leads me to my next point (opinion obviously because even professionals disagree) which is that, almost always, serial killers ARE made. Point 1: research suggests there may be a genetic predisposition to being anti-social. But a genetic predisposition to something doesn’t mean it will be expressed and doesn’t predict HOW it will be expressed. Point 2: our biopsychosocial environment has a MAJOR effect on brain development and brain chemistry (read anything by Dr. Gabor Mate, he explains this concept quite well). Or refer to the Rat Park experiment. Point 3: There are three types of trauma/traumatic experience. Primary (think of this as acute) when a major trauma happens directly to you; secondary (think of this as chronic) when there’s sort of consistent, lower level trauma happening around you (you constantly hear your parents fighting and your dad hits your mom; or you live in a high-crime neighborhood and there are shootings, home, invasions, murders, stabbings, etc happening around you but not to you all the time); and finally, complex trauma, which is having consistent secondary trauma with periods of primary trauma happening as well. Childhood trauma is the single biggest recurring theme in basically all serial killers. The vast majority of them endure sexual trauma (likely why two of the three triad predictors are also indicators of sexual abuse). AND the majority of them also suffered a head injury. These things combined are what took someone who had a predisposition to being anti-social and made them a serial killer. If you have this genetic predisposition and a normal environment, it is much less likely for you to be one. If however, you take someone predisposed to being anti-social, and you expose them to an environment that cultivates a hatred of and disregard for others (abuse, neglect), cultivates a need for power and control (abuse, ESPECIALLY sexual in nature - one of the biggest effects a sexual trauma has is by someone taking away your power, your inviolable right to the control of your own body, by someone exerting completely their power and will over you, and therefore creating a need for control in the future in the form of addiction, self-harm, eating disorders, anxiety disorders, OCD, etc etc etc but when combined with other things, potentially serial killing), encourages a focus on oneself and one’s own needs being met at the expense of all else (neglect, abuse, poverty), and promotes lying, sneaking, manipulation (neglect, abuse, poverty), etc… then that predisposition is very likely to be expressed in someone as being a serial killer or some other predator. Oh also I’m not saying “poor people are bad and criminals and lying thieves,” I’m just saying, poverty is a traumatic, demoralizing experience that heavily affects people in a multitude of ways, and is just one potential factor alongside several others, and would not necessarily, on its own, create a serial murderer. It IS likely though that through early childhood trauma, this predisposition (this word seems meaningless now) or something else caused them to respond to that trauma by severing their connection to their emotional state. They then grow up not knowing how to feel, not knowing how to respond to or control their feelings, seemingly cut off from them and unable to empathize with the feelings of others. Rather they learn to mimic feelings to those around them to be normal and accepted, possibly even thinking that others are doing this as well and aren’t really feeling much of anything, hence a disregard for them. And possibly their emotional expression can only come out in severe bursts of rage and/or violent impulse. Add brain damage from a head trauma to all that and if you don’t end up with a serial killer, it’d be a miracle.
I found out about the girl scout one about a year and a half ago and it still shakes me up, it's one of the most sad and brutal murder stories I've ever come across. The girls who were not instantly murdered would have been terrified in their last moments.
It also says a lot that men view crime shows that focus on the murderer, while women watch more victim-centered programs. Women are also more likely to watch shows that allow them to try to solve for a sense of control. Women should not have to watch murder shows for survival tips. Damn society, you are bleak.
Up until about 2015 Cracked was the best podcast on the planet and hasn’t been surpassed since.
I love Karen’s laugh so much
Kill Kits for sale!!
Just leave 50 dollars in a tightly sealed box in the woods next to the highway. Do not leave your box in the woods next to the cemetery or next to the abandoned mineshaft. They will come by and exchange it for your murder kit. If your package has not replaced your money by the time you have turned around, please be advised that you have, unfortunately, been selected by the providers.
They will find you.
They're always watching.
Thank you for your cooperation or R.I.P
Yours, Notsurethisjokewasfunny inc
Coming back to rewatch this after getting into MFM is the best!
0:27 - Great job getting their names reversed with your overlays. Killin it!
that coyote joke gets me everytime
Their names are wrong at 0:26! They should be switched!
I grew up in monmouth county and it really is a great place to grow up
When Karen talks about Israel Keys taking hikers from the back of their group, it makes me think of Missing 411 stories that have that exact situation happen!🧐
I totally thought the voices were opposite! I had them completely mixed up! but looking at them in person I got it now & it makes total sense now!
Just started (and finished) listened to Up and Vanished about the disappearance of Tara Grinstead. You should talk about that investigation, pretty crazy story too.
Last time I was this early....
I was never this early. I deserve a reward.
I am obsessed with Karen’s voice I just had to see what she looked like 😂
This is how I found out about mfm. I always was a murderino and I didn’t even know it! SSDGM
I watch these independently and now they’ve mixed them!!!
No but seriously how much are kill kits? Asking for a friend.
oh... kill kits... that makes so much more sense than kill kids, which was what I understood. like a secret killer agency that only consists of kids.
Brandin Estes mine cost me $55.95. It might be cheaper on Amazon...
Brandin Estes you could probably rent one. Ask your local law enforcement if they have any to rent.
Kill kit? Is that what they were saying? I heard kill kids.
Brandin Estes it shouldn't be hard to figure out. Find the cost for a couple of large garbage bags like those ones you see in the Home Depot for big clean ups, zip ties, knifes (pocket /hunter's ), latex gloves, standard 2-3 yards of nylon rope, medium duffel bag, duck tape, and military trench shovel.
Um you guys know you got their names mixed up. Karen is the one in black.
Imagine one of the people who did one of these murders was watching this
I'm sure they have or are watching and potential ones as well..... Just stay alert at all times and don't trust anyone and never ever go with them to where they want you to go, Georgie and Karen said it best that it's better to take the bullet on the street then hop in the car cuz the chances of u surviving after that go way down.
Yep, and particularly if there is a group of you do not let them tie you up. Pretend to cooperate then fight and/or run. They are only tying you up as they know they cannot control you or all of you. Examples include Richard Speck, the Lake Berryessa killing, the Manson La Biancas, the Joseph Duncan case where he tied up the family and took the two kids, the Keddie cabin murders. They tell you they won't hurt you just to get you helpless. Also the Original Night stalker and the Clutter family. Unfortunately, all may not live if you fight and refuse to cooperate with being bound, but if you do it without resistance, all very well may die. Having said that, it's always a case by case judgment on who you are dealing with and their motive for doing it.
Karen and Georgia are labeled wrong in the beginning!
I love you guys!! Keep it going!!!!!!
Well...I don't really feel like leaving the house on a dark cloudy day, to a remote area where no one will be around, to go to a money drop box.
Somewhat related...have you ever noticed that a high percentage of detectives/police officers are left handed? Wonder if there has been any studies on it?
Awesome program
Me: "Oh my god they namedropped my hometown!"
Also me: "WRONG WRONG WRONG it's LAN-kiss-ter not Lang-CAS-ter"
William Edward "Billy" Cook Jr. (December 23, 1928 - December 12, 1952) was an American spree killer who murdered six people on a 22-day rampage between Missouri and California in 1950-51. Cook was the inspiration for the ida lupino film the hitch hiker. cook also made a big impression upon jim morrison. morrison made a film entitled HWY. in it he was to play a serial killer named billy. as the project evolved this narrative was dropped. cook's influence upon morrison continued with his lyrics to the doors song riders on the storm.
Hmm I wonder what sort of soda she is drinking, they blurred it sooooo well it's impossible to tell XD
I'm just confused why these dudes are reading Karen and Georgia murders... like that's the point of their podcast. It's like they're trying to say "look we can do it too" and also they're so much more boring!
Emily Davidson I agree, I wanna hear Karen and Georgia talk, they're the guests
Omg yes
John G “what the girls do” - they’re both -adult- women known for their comedy outside of their podcast. Plus... It’s a comedy murder podcast.
I agree, it is like they were mansplaining murder to the mfm women. Ugggh
Men🤷🏻♀️😒🙄
Ah, a fellow jersey person! Nice! Keep these up, guys, I like these!
Karen’s laugh is infectious I love them! #ssdgm
I am a simple woman, I see Karen and Georgia and I click :33c
Karen is me 20 years from now. YASSSSS love y'all and this podcast
Holy Shit. I was a graduate of Monmouth Regional High School Back in 97'. Small world.
"i was real into murder as a kid", like what XD
I love how the diet coke is blurred like we don't know its a diet coke Karen
I love when the subject of childhoods shaping adults and if it contributes to becoming a serial killer.
If you wonder this, please do yourself a favor and research the difference of narcissism, sociopath, and psychopath. It’s astounding the things that a traumatic childhood can breed.
They closed the girl scout camp after the murders, but the one just down the road to it was kept open. My troop camped there not all that long after. The dads made us pitch tents super close together rather than spread out and stood guard all night. They shot a coyote during the night, but that was it.
Right before you guys talked about Bundy the image of him in a green shirt with white trim gesturing for someone to come over popped into my head on a sunny day it was so vivid...
I swear these bastards have powerful spirits...
everytime they get brought up it seems like they're around again.
After all its only 4 days after his execution date.
Daniel O'Brian is the most mansplainy, interrupty dude I have had the displeasure of listening to lately. There were so many moments where I was interested in what Karen or Georgia were saying and that guy would not stop talking. They created an incredibly popular podcast about this. Ask your question, keep it short and open-ended, and then let them respond, at length, with insight. They had to quip in an effort to be heard.