EVF vs OVF: What's the Difference? Mirrorless VS DSLR Cameras

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  • @256k_
    @256k_ ปีที่แล้ว +8

    they should make a DSLR that also has a EVF popup like how they do on the fuji Xpro hybrid viewfinders, you get the best of both worlds of through the lens composition and real viewing as well as all the advantages of a EVF at the flick of a switch. i think ditching DSLR is a great tragedy as there is a lot of benefits to DSLR over a mirrorless

  • @mleachphoto
    @mleachphoto 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Once I got into EVFs I couldn't look back. Really helps for lowlight/concert photography. I remember shooting a wedding with both and I just couldn't do OVFs anymore lol. Six to one!

  • @danehill9346
    @danehill9346 5 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Thanks, Jared. I wasn't entirely clear on everything about EVF vs OVF but now I am. It was very helpful.

    • @zaidenmayson879
      @zaidenmayson879 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      pro trick: watch series on Flixzone. I've been using it for watching a lot of movies lately.

    • @edisondean6635
      @edisondean6635 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Zaiden Mayson Definitely, I've been using Flixzone for months myself :)

  • @freestylebagua
    @freestylebagua 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    First time I've watched Jared, completely awesome personality and very entertaining with good information. The fro knows photos.

  • @Bighami
    @Bighami 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow! Finally someone explained EVF and OVF thoroughly in the best possible way; Thank you for this amazing video.

  • @gregangelus1
    @gregangelus1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Jared! Thanks for showing me the LCD Loupe! I was just starting to get into "Live View" and this is exactly what I need to really bring it all home. Game changer, for me. Thanks for all you do!

  • @TheElocto
    @TheElocto 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Omw, that might explain why my photos are always a stop or so underexposed on the Sony, i always have the evf and lcd set to the brightest settings (even in bright light or dark scenarios, so basically always) and I've gotten so lazy i hardly check the histogram or exposure, so when i get back to lightroom i often find the pictures are underexposed. Great tip Jared and I'll definitely consult the histogram and light bar more often when shooting manual.

  • @danielgolder3469
    @danielgolder3469 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome Jared, appreciate your tutorials, sold on the EOS R

  • @CorvusOscen
    @CorvusOscen 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very Useful advice Jared! Thanks!

  • @KatieEmmaNZ
    @KatieEmmaNZ 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    i picked up the full sony a7r iii set up only to find the evf made me motion sick.... going back to ovf once i manage to return the camera

  • @sanneterlouw
    @sanneterlouw 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You explain it so clearly! Thanks a lot.

  • @rachaelk359
    @rachaelk359 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    SO helpful!! Thank you!!!

  • @Cazak69
    @Cazak69 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I keep reading posts about how OVF is more “immersive”, “You're losing the connection to the atmosphere you want to capture” with an EVF.
    I went on a photo walk with a friend and we saw a bird sat on a branch, we had just walked from a bright daylight shot to a shot now in shadows. I adjusted my shot though the EVF before I took the shot and captured the bird first time. My friend took a shot, preview mode, adjust settings, took shot, preview mode, adjust settings, missed shot because the bird flew away.
    If you want atmosphere and emersion then go for walks without a camera, if you want a photograph of the moment then take a camera with the best tools for the job.
    Photography is about capturing the moment, preserving the memory. If a Gimmick as some of you are calling EVF helps you capture the moment then its no longer a Gimmick it’s a tool.

    • @factsnchill168
      @factsnchill168 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Its amazing how photographers were professional before EVF?

    • @troy5568
      @troy5568 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@factsnchill168 Even those professionals did find a very hard time nailing a shot in one go. The fact that you don't even get to have any preview of what the exposure of the photo would look like after it's taken is already a massive hindrance to capturing once-in-a-lifetime moments.
      No wonder why modern day images of flying birds in the wild look better in terms of exposure than those that were captured with DSLRs because the photographers already see the close preview of the final image, and they could also be tracked down in burst really well because of no blackout happening.
      Capturing fast-moving subjects and making them as still as rock was even better with mirrorless that could freeze motions up to 1/32000s shutter speed, compared to 1/8000 on most DSLRs of the past.
      If it's just being able to see the live scene from my naked eyes, then I'd rather take my camera off my eyes and see it all by myself without any equipments right in front of my eyeballs.
      If DSLRs were really still that good, then Canon and Nikon shouldn't have stopped making them and still released as many models of those type of camera to compete with Sony's mirrorless lineup.

  • @Lon1an
    @Lon1an 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I recently held a nikon crop camera in my hand and tested it out (nikon D500) and noticed how dark the viewfinder looked compared to my FX camera (D750). I can see how a crop camera user would parhaps like the image more out of a electronic viewfinder.

  • @Jasonadinatadentistrytoronto
    @Jasonadinatadentistrytoronto 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I shoot macro photography with studio strobe lighting on a A7III. In order to have everything in focus I am shooting at f20ish. However, since it is such a small aperature and very little light is going into the camera I feel like it is very difficult to focus. If I want to keep my aperature at f20 Is there any way around this besides increase the amount of ambient light shining on the object?

  • @lllaaaiii2002
    @lllaaaiii2002 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    very helpful video, very precise and easy to understand, it will help a lot of photographers. the camera is only the tool to take picture, you still have to have good knowledge to be a good photographer. In the meantime, most of the people buying mirrorless regardless how to take better pictures, because its a new technology and its much lighter to carry around. that's the advantages to attract buyers.

  • @thomasottvideos
    @thomasottvideos 5 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    What's up with the THUMBS DOWN votes??
    1. This man is giving us his valuable time.
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    3. He clearly states when he is sharing an "opinion vs "fact."
    Wow, I am taken back by the unwarranted cynicism, as well as the public's fear of learning from successful people.

    • @mylordtakemeaway
      @mylordtakemeaway 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      wow. it is just a video. there's people being killed and being oppressed. this. is. just a. video. man.

    • @PaavoLammikko
      @PaavoLammikko 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I just gave it thumbs down and only because of your comment.

  • @murculago
    @murculago 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I personally use both because I own two different cameras and there are advantages and disadvantages to both tbh. But live view with the electronic view finder is very nice!

  • @jimbo33
    @jimbo33 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good and helpful video, thanks!

  • @maxvain
    @maxvain 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really Great Tutorial

  • @JerseyBubbba
    @JerseyBubbba 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    What you explained was helpful. The eff actually showing the exposure is the reason I am thinking of switching to mirrorless. Just can't decide between Canon and Sony

  • @abdullakaisar2319
    @abdullakaisar2319 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was waiting for more details about the EVF in some other vlogs but, I haven't found those information which I have found in your vlog as cristal clear. Thanks alot and looking for more detailed volgs.

  • @SonnetGomes
    @SonnetGomes 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very informative video. Thank you.

  • @shayanmollahosseini8221
    @shayanmollahosseini8221 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I do have a Nikon d750 and love it :)

  • @MrHookee
    @MrHookee 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks JP. Good stuff

  • @00Skyfox
    @00Skyfox 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I got used to an electronic viewfinder by using a Powershot S5IS for 4 years in all sorts of locations before stepping up to a DSLR. The viewfinder (and screen) resolution was nowhere near what they're capable of making them with these days, but it still worked very well for both photography and videos. I still have the S5IS and other than having an intermittent lens issue I need to get repaired, it still works great and makes a nice backup camera for my purposes.

  • @tymb278
    @tymb278 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very useful presentation

  • @buf67
    @buf67 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you. is one better for glasses wearing photographers?

  • @Havanai
    @Havanai 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    On EVFs, could you explain what it meant by "magnification factor"?

  • @kerder8660
    @kerder8660 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thx so much nice explanation...

  • @RebeccaKowalskyPhoto
    @RebeccaKowalskyPhoto ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi. Thank you for this video. It helped me understand. I can't get to the free 11 day course. Is that unavailable? Thanks

  • @timjourdanmedia
    @timjourdanmedia หลายเดือนก่อน

    Question: if I see spots through the electronic viewfinder, is the dirt on the sensor or on the front/back of the lens? Talking about a mirrorless camera

  • @raghavaggarwal5420
    @raghavaggarwal5420 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Jared, Kindly help me understand how did you record the OVF of a DSLR camera?

  • @joyindeeamornchai754
    @joyindeeamornchai754 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have the Canon 90D and the OVF AF hits and misses all the time but the LiveView AF is always spot on, I read that the main reason for this is that when using the OVF it uses a AF sensor that next to the image sensor but when shooting in LiveView the AF sensors are literally built into the image sensor itself which explains it's better AF accuracy, what's your thoughts about that?

  • @Ariadni_Heart
    @Ariadni_Heart 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi and greetings from Greece. You think the Canon M50 or the A6000 is a better camera for photography to buy?

  • @pawanbhandari2791
    @pawanbhandari2791 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What camera you using for this great video. So nice and clear.

  • @jacobf.bryant7471
    @jacobf.bryant7471 5 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    One big difference is seeing more dynamic range through the OVF - especially for someone shooting something like landscapes. During a sunny day or bright sunrise or sunset, your eye and ovf will be able to see more shadows and highlights then the EVF can show you. Not a big deal in most situations and wont affect the final image but it can make the experience better

    • @nikhilchandra9258
      @nikhilchandra9258 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      What is photography if not the experience. EVF certainly is less immersive but for certain situations, it certainly is beneficial (especially with video being a huge component nowdays in these cameras)

    • @jacobf.bryant7471
      @jacobf.bryant7471 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Because the EVF is basically just showing a JPEG preview not what would be recoverable or at least close to recoverable!

    • @nikhilchandra9258
      @nikhilchandra9258 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Its a marketing gimmick. I remember when DSLR video revolution began in 2009 (and I was part of it), one of the things that went AGAINST dslr video was that you cant see through the viewfinder when recording is on. The analogy that was used was "imagine as a photographer, when you look through the OVF, all you can see is the live view", and now the same thing is propelled as. "revolutionary". Sure its good for video/hybrid. Sure it has its own place and sure people will benefit from it. But as a photographer, ovf is simply more "hands on" and immersive.

    • @jacobf.bryant7471
      @jacobf.bryant7471 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      100 Percent agree!

    • @2406ab
      @2406ab 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      whats the point of seeing more dynamic range? whats the point of having a clearer, better, more real life view? if i want to enjoy the landscape i put the camera down and see it with my eyes. when i see through the viewfinder, the point is to make a correct composed and exposed image and thats way easier with an EVF, because in the EVF you see in fact your image, in an optical viewfinder you see just "real life".

  • @marians8772
    @marians8772 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    So I shoot events in dark locations professionally.
    ...And I never managed to make an EVF work for me. All I could see through EVFs was noisy grainy laggy wrong colours. And the camera really struggled when it was hit by a dancefloor-light. To be fair, I never had the chance to test one of the highest end Mirrorless, but given how the whole system works, I don't think EVFs work for my niche.
    Two things you also missed:
    1.Battery Life. On my D3s I can shoot 500 pictures, leave it on for a week, shoot 1000more and the battery still has juice left. Or I can walk around with it dangling around my neck all day, and it is always ready. Absolutely crucial to Street-Photography. "Off" on a Pro-DSLR is more like a "Lock Buttons".
    2. Dust, Dust, Dust! Mirrorless sensors get dirty soooo quickly. I change lenses a lot in the field, and my buddies with Sony cameras always have to blow out their sensors when they change lenses. While they do that, I am already back in the field taking pictures.

    • @troy5568
      @troy5568 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Then you never really have tried using the best mirrorless cameras, yet you still compared them to the best DSLRs, which were out for longer now, and have developed much further already compared to mirrorless. That's definitely not right, I'd say.
      Your EVF is showing you a noisy and laggy composition because it's displaying exactly what the sensor is seeing, and that's really what you need to have, since you need to make sure that everything is perfectly adjusted before taking the picture. An OVF is not gonna do that.
      While you're seeing a perfectly fine composition in an OVF, with no grain and very realistic motions, you're rather clueless about what the final photos would look like, which are most likely too far from what you saw in the OVF, at least that's what would happen if you're absolutely clueless in photography). Still, the OVF isn't exactly what the final results are going to look like, and there can be times when your exposure is gonna be really off.
      EVF, on the other hand, is already giving you the almost exact, perhaps even the exact result already on the preview, along with the help of a histogram, to ensure that you get the proper settings correctly before taking the shot, and not having to re-take it because your exposure was all over the place.
      To each his own, perhaps, but I don't really see OVF really that good anymore. It's basically just a preview of what my eyes are seeing, but not what my camera sensor is seeing, and when taking a picture, it's supposed to be my camera that I should be concerned about, since it's who will take and save an image, and not my eyes.
      As for battery life, yes DSLRs really have the advantage there, but that's mainly because their system isn't as advanced as mirrorless cameras do. For instance, mirrorless cameras can shoot up to 1/32000s shutter speed, compared to most DSLRs maxing out at 1/8000s, and that surely would consume more power as well.
      Even then, mirrorless cameras have come quite a long way as well already, and this problem has been vastly improved, if not entirely fixed already. Some mirrorless cameras can already go up to 800 shots in one battery pack already.
      Having dust on the sensor is already more of the user's responsibility. Even so, it's fairly easy to remove them, as even blowing them with mouth can solve such a simple problem. Then again, some mirrorless cameras also now have sensor protection built in, like the newest Canon mirrorless ones, so that's no longer an issue here.
      The rest, most obviously mirrorless cameras are so much better already, and they wouldn't be considered as the future of digital cameras for no reason.

    • @ramimxss
      @ramimxss 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      use bright monitoring on sony mirrorless

  • @patrickmulligan3522
    @patrickmulligan3522 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for this info. I'm thinking of changing over to Sony cause my gf shoots that so just makes sense. I shoot portrait and getting more into live sports. Which Sony mirrorless would you recommend for that? I know a thousand things go into it so just a quick link to a video or anything would be great. Thanks

  • @louieanderson2847
    @louieanderson2847 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Super helpful. I go with ML's.

  • @robgale1676
    @robgale1676 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I do have a question regarding the mirrorless cameras. Sometimes I do studio work and I tend to do either medium or low key lighting. Most of the time I shoot at 1/125 of a second and I range my aperture around f8, f11, or f16. Technically the light meter and histogram will show an underexposed image but I know by doing proper lighting technique my photographs will come out just the way I want them. Now, if I use a EVF with a very small aperture in a low key studio lighting setup would the image in the viewfinder be very dark? Will I even see anything in the viewfinder?

  • @peepers4763
    @peepers4763 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Helpful! I want an EVF big time but for now OVF is what I have . Better idea of what I’m missing

  • @speecher1959
    @speecher1959 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I look forward to having EVF given it's advantages, but I think with wildlife that I will always miss the OVF. I want them both!

  • @jasontlouguy5739
    @jasontlouguy5739 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about cutting out ambient light for flash photography?
    in an OVF you can increase the shutter speed and F-Stop to cut out ambient light and still see and focus on the subject clearly through the OVF.
    But when I try this with my M50 even when looking through the EVF the camera is too dark and I cannot find my subject to focus and compose my shot.
    Is there a way around this issue?
    So far I crank up the ISO about 2 stops, Focus and compose, then while trying not to move, lower the ISO back down then quickly take the shot.
    it would probably be a little easier with a tripod but constantly lowering and increasing the ISO between each photo just to compose and maintain focus really slows down the shoot.

  • @ES-qt7jv
    @ES-qt7jv 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm new to photography and trying to understand. Dslr vs mirrorless. Which one should i go with as a novice. I also want to be able to record live shots and be wifi/bluetooth capable and preferably 8k but will settle with 4k. I've seen folks out doing documentary where they have a microphone and lights connected onto a camera. Please help. Thanks!

  • @77appyi
    @77appyi 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    i had a fuji EX-2 an did not find WUSIWUG much benefit as the camera sensor had much more DR than the VF can display ...but what was very good in determining exposure was the hysterogram overlay coupled with your thumb on the EC dail

  • @4sixdy4
    @4sixdy4 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    so should you be able to get the settings right in ONE shoot?

  • @hyperclearphoto6573
    @hyperclearphoto6573 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    What Brand of Loupe is that? Also awesome video!!! Keep going Jaried

  • @cfagil
    @cfagil 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Enjoyed your video. Many Thanks. I wonder if the latest EVF has caught up with OVF in terms of VF lag; especially for fast action, i.e. "What you see is what you get"? What I meant was a dancer was facing you when you pressed the shutter but the resulting photo showed you the back of her neck? (Assuming that you have the right shutter speed) Sorry, Sony A7 II shows you the side and the Panasonic GX9 was definitely the back. Love to hear your insight especially I am considering if a Sony A7 III can replace my Nikon D3s for indoor sports event with fill flash?

  • @majalkitab
    @majalkitab ปีที่แล้ว

    What is the best camera to take pictures of my 11x17 art work?

  • @conkview1795
    @conkview1795 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I’m just here waiting for the A7S3 release. 🙌🏼
    Great comparison video dude. 👌🏼

    • @MrDan1509
      @MrDan1509 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      You'll hear about one about to hit the market as soon as the next barge of trash leaves the US headed overseas..

    • @duckyduckduck2192
      @duckyduckduck2192 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      🚬

  • @Otokichi786
    @Otokichi786 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    To test this X vs. Y question, I began with two trailing edge "compact digital" cameras. The Canon PowerShot G15 has an optical viewfinder, which (mostly) works except at the long end. Having to look at the rear screen to see ISO, shutter speed, aperture, etc. is a bit of a drag. The Fujifilm X-30 has a pretty good Electronic View Finder which displays all of the above plus modes and so on. Which one is better? That's hard to say, because this senior citizen's midrange vision is going soft, so I can (sorta) read some of the information in the EVF. I use both cameras from time to time, preferring the Canon when visiting sketchy parts of town. (This is easier to replace if stolen or damaged) The Fuji X-30 is for visiting "safe places" for semi-serious photography. (Not as easy to replace due to lower sales and premium prices for used Fuji cameras)

  • @manashgonewild
    @manashgonewild 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Helpful video 📹.... TFS

  • @noneyanoneya5829
    @noneyanoneya5829 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What cameras are you showing? Thank you

  • @niidogo9315
    @niidogo9315 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good bye Excel! Hello "MyGearVault" app...about to try it out now...Thank You.

  • @shawnshing614
    @shawnshing614 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dear Jared Polin.
    Please make a video of what kind of device that record ur evf in camera, I have watched ur video every single days and really like ur vlog.

  • @ckons89
    @ckons89 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I need to turn on the evf from sleep when I press the shoot button while it is on sleep mode... Not waiting until I place my eye at the viewfinder.. any ideas?

  • @blagovestzaimov3455
    @blagovestzaimov3455 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    For an SLR user, it was hard to imagine shooting on digital, but now almost everybody shoots on DSLR. The same is with EVF. 10 years for now, everyone will shoot with mirrorless and evf and that will be taken as usual.

  • @lq1044
    @lq1044 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am landscape guy. I use circular polarizer heavily. I use them so much that I bought three (3) 77mm for each of my most use lenses so I don't have to swap them in the field. I might as well weld those CPs to my lenses. I tried out my CP with my friend's Sony. With EVF, I have a very hard time fine tuning the polarization to the degree that I need. I can the sky getting darker. But I cannot see the reflection on the leaves or grass blades going away as subtle as I see in OVF. And Lightroom cannot remove reflection on green leaves or water. On my recent trip to Utah, I found that most of the time I don't need to go full polarization or the sky would look unnaturally dark blue. How do I fine tune this quickly with EVF? I turn off the automatic light compensation of the EVF. I have to zoom in every time. This would really slow me down.

  • @user-vf5ei9zg6o
    @user-vf5ei9zg6o 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    watch this the sec time well done manythanks from THAILAND

  • @eviltechnology
    @eviltechnology 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    what do you see when you do a long exposure settings? there is no way it will show you 30 sec exposure live.

  • @andrewbakker7640
    @andrewbakker7640 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Have you ever considered Siri shortcuts with My Gear Vault, like being able to ask Siri to list your kit to you. I’m not 100% sure what you would be able to do but still a useful thing to do

  • @ashutosh.ap03
    @ashutosh.ap03 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey man my Tamron sp90mm f2.8 is not working in Nikon z7
    Please help

  • @b.g.4277
    @b.g.4277 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My current camera is an 80D. I came close to getting an XT2, but the EVF was the show stopper. I was shooting my son's football games then and the EVF was very distracting, specifically when tracking and panning. Even in the store, if I just panned while shooting a burst it was very choppy. With a OVF you get extremely quick blackout and it was a better experience for me personally since the mirror does not lag behind. That said EVFs keep improving and I agree with the pros you listed. The only one that blew me away though was the A9 which has zero blackout when shooting and doesn't use the gimmick of showing the last shot to give the illusion that there is no blackout. This is what made panning/tracking during a burst feel choppy XT2.
    The main point I am trying to make is yes many mirrorless cameras claim there is zero blackout, but it is not true except for the A9, at least for ones I actually had my hands on. If you are taking static shots, an EVF is great. If you are shooting bursts on moving subjects than I still prefer an OVF for now.
    Also one thing that was not mentioned was sensor readout speeds. Yes you can shoot silently, but if you are using an electronic shutter then you may have some distortion on a moving subject, again the A9 is the exception here and believe the EM1 Mkii does well. It will vary from camera to camera. Sony used a golf swing as an example when launching the A9 to show case it's speed.
    I have seen odds images with birds in flight shot on some cameras where the wings get distorted since the readout isn't fast enough. Limited cases where this can be an impact, but think worth mentioning. Shooting with a flash or certain types of lighting may cause issues as well, but I can't really speak to it. These are not show stoppers though since the fix is usually just switching to mechanical shutter. Basically know the camera, it's limitations and you will be fine.

    •  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have the Fujifilm X-H1 and with 8fps I can shoot almost silent and without blackout.

  • @arminf.1195
    @arminf.1195 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    One big difference between DSLR and mirrorless is DSLR gives you an excuse to flex your muscles while holding your camera in live view. 4:28

  • @anthonyshepard9606
    @anthonyshepard9606 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Outstanding commentary: 🐢📷🐢📷🐢📷

  • @sebastiantorresserviciosin557
    @sebastiantorresserviciosin557 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am a Nikon shooter with my D610 and I am considering going mirrorless mainly to reduce size and weight in lenses. I currently have these lenses: Sigma art 35, Nikkor 50 and 85 1.8G, Tokina 17-35 and Nikkor 24-120.
    Photography is a serious hobby but not my job. I do mainly studio, portrait and real estate photography. I am tempting to switch to the new fuji x-t3. Would I loose quality going to Fuji? I also considered Sony A7iii but lenes are too expensive and Z6 does not attract me by the reviews I have seen.

  • @giandeguzman6402
    @giandeguzman6402 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great information. I guess evfs are the future really, less mistakes and more accurate outputs

  • @soundchecked123
    @soundchecked123 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like to put effort into adjusting my exposure it fun to go thru the process

    • @WuschelofDespair
      @WuschelofDespair 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm adjusting the exposure with an EVF as well, I just get it right the first time and that helps me to get more good pictures. I know people that like fixing their Linux every week but when I made the switch from Linux to a Mac I loved that my OS just worked and I could spend the time on more productive tasks

  • @Digmen1
    @Digmen1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Jared good to see this video
    So many people say mirrorless is the way to go without talking much abour the EVF,
    I have a Nikon D5500 and would like to go mirrorless.
    But what will lthe long term trend be, now that most manufacturers seem to be concentrating on Mirrorless.
    Some of your viewers say they still prefer an OVF
    What do you prefer now? EVF or OVF

  • @msbrownbeast
    @msbrownbeast 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It would be great if they improve the response time on the EVF, my Canon EOS R, as much as I like it, I just find the EVF response not good for panning shots.

  • @Hofsaedter
    @Hofsaedter 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    is i managable to add a histogram to SLR ? Don´t think it is impossible, is it ?

  • @karnleksoontorn1914
    @karnleksoontorn1914 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really hope that fro brings the rapid photo critique back...

  • @agiwojcik4513
    @agiwojcik4513 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    just to mention that usually both have diopter correction for people with not perfect eyesight but if you are looking through an evf for a long time your eyes will tire faster since it’s like looking at a small tv screen from really close distance.

  • @chrismi008
    @chrismi008 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    How does an EVF work in the studio. With the selected exposure the image is black when you look through the EVF. At the moment when the studio flash is firing the image is exposed correctly. But before and after the flash you have black screen.
    With the OVF you still can see your subject with the modelling light.
    How would it work with the EVF?

    • @mick2d2
      @mick2d2 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Christoph Meier - Not sure about the cameras he's talking about, but the Fuji cameras (I have an X-T1) have a feature called "PREVIEW EXP./WB IN MANUAL MODE" which allows you to see properly in this situation.

  • @dog95917
    @dog95917 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    For Wedding Photographer, D850 or Z7?

  • @alexshdvideo
    @alexshdvideo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you… thinking of moving up from my old D300s to a D610 used (cheap) or a used Z6 or new Z6II. Hobbyists and using primarily vintage manual focus lenses and modern Lensbaby and future some Lomgoraphy lenses for my own work. So the whole Z6 slow eye AF is interesting but not a big issue with me. The older DSLR’s are apparently easier to ballpark exposure on old lenses and the green dot in the lower left for contrast sharpness where I place my black box in my OVF is fine.. in fact I’m fairly fast at it.. certainly as fast as a generic 2000 era AF lens…. (Meaning they are slow hunters.. and frankly I’m faster). But are these newer say Nikon Z series still able to meter like older DSLR’s with older MF lenses? Anyway, yeah Z9 looks great.. but I’m a long way from earning money from a camera purchase the price of a decent used car. A used full frame D610 for $450 seems far more appealing, but never know, maybe a used Z6 for $1,100 might be a stretch…. Anyway love your videos. Maybe in 2022 I’ll sign up for your “Critique session” where you review for 15 minutes the photographers best 15 pics. Happy New Year!

  • @DethronerX
    @DethronerX 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks, this helped me a lot. I have a DSLR and my friend has a mirrorless who keeps preaching me about it to shift there, but this video helps me decide I can stay with Optical view.
    Now, one issue I would like resolved is focus lines (Peak), that I don't have on my Cannon 60D, yes it's an old camera, but that's what I could afford with a stupid kit lens, but will upgrade gradually. While my friend has red focus lines on his mirrorless, that help get the focus where you want. How do I get it on 60D? I Know there is some hack and it gives you white focus lines maybe, so please do help. Im tired of zooming in to find the focus because zooming in gets you in the center, when my subject of focus could be on the side, which is irritating because your composition has to be reset
    Thanks

    • @emptylikebox
      @emptylikebox ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i also use an old dslr (because that's what i can afford) but i moved away from the kit lens and have been using prime lenses which makes taking pictures with the old dslr a better shooting experience, imo.

    • @DethronerX
      @DethronerX ปีที่แล้ว

      @@emptylikebox Youre right, its been two years since my message hahah I did end up buying the starting lens, which is 50mm 1.8 STM and 7 Artisan's 35mm and 50mm 0.95, a CCTV lens 25mm 1.4, Helios 44 and a couple of other vintage ones. All of these were cheap, except of course 50mm 1.8 STM, but like you said, lenses make a difference, especially primes.
      As for focus peaking, i found out about Magic Lantern, but havent installed it yet.
      I do want to upgrade to Panasonic Lumix for full frame, because im bored of cropped

  • @jaknology5549
    @jaknology5549 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Helpful

  • @victorcolon3222
    @victorcolon3222 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is better choice to save battery in mirroless. Take the picture with the screen or with the EVF?

    •  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have my Fuji X-H1 set too evf with eye sensor. That means that the back screen is off and the evf turns on when I put my eye too the eye cup. I can shoot about 1000 images on one battery that way.

  • @AnthonyBurnsSydney
    @AnthonyBurnsSydney 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Fro, As a full time corporate event and headshot photographer I own DSLR"s and now a mirrorless. The main difference for me is that I shoot a room full of people as couples etc in manual.
    The standard go to at night is 125sec F5.6 I lock them in and then theI SO 3can be set to give the room a little ambiance, so between ISO 1600 and 4000 . Then I use a manual fill flash at 1/16 power that will reach 6" or 2 meters in front of me.
    A mirrorless struggles compared to the DSLR because the DSLR is always set to its largest aperture, say F2.8, untill you press the shutter button. Then the mirror goes up and the aperture ring goes to F5.6. So my point is the DSLR can see a far brighter room than the mirrorless which makes everything easier.
    Sure the mirrorless can shoot at 125 and 5.6 but you really have to raise the ISO to see anything, then noise is a problem.
    I use the mirrorless in bright situations or when I really need to be silent, like in a board meeting.
    I shoot with a Nikon D5, D800e and Fujifilm XT-3, all are great cameras depending on what I am doing.

    • @ocaly
      @ocaly 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      So in low light (or using flash), the DSLR's are better.

  • @PioSoesetio308
    @PioSoesetio308 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How do you use speedlight with manual controls with an evf, can't you see anything in the evf?

    • @ObelixCMM
      @ObelixCMM 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      There is the setting you change for studio work, where EVF acts as OVF

    • @PioSoesetio308
      @PioSoesetio308 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Is the setting built in the camera?

  • @desmundlighten3603
    @desmundlighten3603 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Seeing Jared use a Sony and a Nikon side by side warms my heart. At one point mirrorless got zero love on this channel, but they have progressed and earned the respect of the fro with Sony pushing the entire industry forward

    • @ceddo2511
      @ceddo2511 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Camera snobs still manage to put Sony down at every opportunity, highlighting minor perceived weaknesses as if they were major deal breakers, while falling over themselves to praise the new Canon and Nikon mirrorless as if they were somehow innovative, while blatantly ignoring huge omissions in spec, looking at you McKinnon and Northrop with your recent Canon whitewashes. I was 100% Nikon for twenty years, the last five all Sony and no complaints at all and love the smaller size with the particular lenses I use.

    • @tcolondovich2996
      @tcolondovich2996 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Meanwhile Canon has the best EVF displays on their mirrorless cameras, compared to any I've seen. If I didn't just look at a Canon EOS M50 in a store, I wouldn't be here. I also looked at a few other brands of camera to compare. I'll admit, this is 8 months after the comment above was written. Things are still progressing pretty quickly when it comes to EVF displays. The M50 has a very high refresh rate, OLED display which looks awesome, and is 2.36mp, so just above 1080FHD.

    • @jnd2415
      @jnd2415 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ceddo2511 Camera snobs? Sony “Fanbois” are the worst kind. Fact.

  • @pearks4994
    @pearks4994 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How to focus using evf bcoz on mirroless cameras ee can focus by touching the screen but while viewing through evf we can not focus... How this limitation can be overcome

  • @omarsolyman7948
    @omarsolyman7948 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does the EVF transmit infrared spectrum?

  • @NBWDOUGHBOY
    @NBWDOUGHBOY 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great vid

  • @mrg6424
    @mrg6424 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is Jared “Fro Knows Photoooos” Polin, cross eye dominant?

  • @johnnysilveira8591
    @johnnysilveira8591 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We have to think about of whats the effect of de EVF on eye healt because of the blue light of the LED!!!

    • @gmcubed
      @gmcubed 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Blue light is not this cancer some like to make it out to be, you get way more blue light from the sky than a tiny screen.

  • @MarkWildweddingdjglasgow
    @MarkWildweddingdjglasgow 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You get a lot of negative critique Mr. Polin sir, but I have to say your teaching style is on the money imho. I was a little bit in the dark to this comparison never having even used a mirror less camera, but not now! Thanks man ✌🏼

  • @xiangtang9121
    @xiangtang9121 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Question: does this mean the CMOS for an EVF camera is constantly exposed to light and is constantly turned on as opposed to OVF cameras which cmos is only exposed to light when shutter is pressed?

    • @skyscraperfan
      @skyscraperfan 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes and that bothers me a lot. In the DSLR age I learned that the sensor gets warm at long exposures and that introduces noise. For we it seems like a waste to use valuable sensor time just to compose a photo.

  • @marinosvafeiadis2655
    @marinosvafeiadis2655 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So THAT's why I cannot see what is the autoiso value through the viewfinder ?

  • @vokso11
    @vokso11 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    OVF for me ! DSLR remain my thing ! moreover DSLRs battery life is far superior vs Mirrorless.

    • @nikoulph
      @nikoulph 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      100% with you,
      I'm still waiting for a nice small format (light weight), full frame and OVF. The Fuji X-PRO3 if it had the Full frame could have been... But nope Fuji had something else in mind....

    • @matt79hz
      @matt79hz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I hear canon will not make ef lenses anymore.. no option for mirrored cameras in the near future.
      Or, now.

    • @tridinh1011
      @tridinh1011 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@matt79hz the lineup of lenses now isnt enough for you? Srsly?

    • @matt79hz
      @matt79hz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tridinh1011 what on earth are you talking about ? I made no mention of that.

    • @tridinh1011
      @tridinh1011 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@matt79hz "no option for dslr in the near future or now"

  • @xraydog2011
    @xraydog2011 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I personally own a mirrorless Panasonic g85,but I love the optical view finder of my friend's cannon 60D

  • @The_Bo
    @The_Bo 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Here's the question (50D user here). Since EVF simulate exposure and such... How usable and how much drops the refresh rate when you are taking pictures at night or very very dark environments (very long exposure)?

    • @johnv6586
      @johnv6586 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      it doesn't drop

  • @Latiosx123
    @Latiosx123 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    just got a used a6000 started photography. what is the purpose of using a view finder, i mean i can see through the live view. I know is an amatuer question.

    • @kentbergstrom3020
      @kentbergstrom3020 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      You keep the camera a lot steadier with using viewfinder, and it's easier to compose the image.

  • @sledgehammermessiah
    @sledgehammermessiah 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    whats wrong with having both, hybrid viewfinder please.

  • @CuongNguyen-cf2it
    @CuongNguyen-cf2it 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love 6D Mark ii😍

  • @raksh9
    @raksh9 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Shot with DSLRs for years. Went to micro four thirds, Fuji X100 and a few other EVF cameras. I can't go back to a DSLR viewfinder, it's just not as clear and bright, even the 5D Mark II. Not being able to see an exposure preview is annoying, too.

  • @twoscoops2
    @twoscoops2 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    love your posing :)

  • @Mysticlambo
    @Mysticlambo 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would make the argument that earlier generations EVF were not high enough resolution compared to OVF to give you the most precise focus when shooting low F and manual focus, such as a 2.4F macro where the mere motion of breathing can bring a small subject into and out of focus. I photograph reptiles and many shots can be cropped dramatically in from the original shot before printing or posting. I am currently debating making the switch to an M50 or a T7i , and the EVF is one of the things I am very interested in whether it will become a problem trying to get things as crisp as the camera could ever physically achieve..