I think “soulless” is a better word than “ugly.” Lots of nineties cartoons were ugly, but the art styles were used to give the shows their tone and identity.
Fr it looks so soft and comfortable. Everything 3D now looks more like plastic than the nightmare fuel short about the baby and toy solider from Pixar. Like one of their first.
@@Birchlead sir why did you just try to put out my nightmares by pouring more nightmare fuel on them? Sir! (No clue if you are a sir or not) but really, Sir!
Eh disagree- there are lots of 3D styles that do a good job at capturing the charm while maintaining the appeal- it’s just a matter of effort- these shows are made super cheaply which caused the quality to suffer as a result
Even though they're "made for kids" these shows are just so lazy and uninspired. Spongebob was so popular because it was absurd, original, and creative. Just taking the characters and putting them in a different show doesn't mean that it's any good. While I don't watch it really, Gumball is pretty funny and original. It seems to connect with kids more than these soulless reboots ever will Edit: There are plenty of great cartoons nowadays, I'm specifically referring to these cheap reboots. The only reason I picked Gumball was because it has a very modern sense of humor and would be what I'd consider the next generation's spongebob
I don’t think I’ve watched enough cartoons made after 2012-ish to have much of a strong opinion, but I will say that there is some charming stuff out there. I’m always plugging the Japanese-English subbed animes (see username) but some other animated shows I’ve seen over the last several years that have great animation/story: -Infinity Train -Amphibia -The Owl House -Steven Universe -Milo’s Murphy Law (Phineas and Ferb spin-off sorta) -Voltron other than the last few episodes lol I haven’t seen the entire series other than Infinity Train, Voltron, and Milo, but I did see 5 or more episodes of the others I listed. Some of these shows aren’t exactly new but they weren’t around in the 2000s when I was a cartoon-watching drone. It gives me hope that there are fewer stereotypes and more LGBT+ rep in many popular cartoons. .I hope this continues to improve along with higher quality animation
Really feels like any reboot is usually doomed. Just cash grabs trying to monetize from another shows popularity. Sort of makes sense because mostly any reboot will involve a whole new set of writers and everything in between never getting the feel of the original show just right
I agree with Scott that this isn't *made for* adults... it's just, at the same time, it's so blatantly indicative of the cynical business-first decision making that went into rebooting these properties into an inferior form. Me, I'm like, why reboot the original Rugrats cast but in the 2020s instead of the 1990s? Why not let the babies grow all the way up, become parents of their own children, and make a show about those new babies? Kids today have no attachment to the older characters, so why are you baiting millennials with nostalgia only to make a product with nothing for them? It doesn't make any sense to me, consarnit!
I'd actually watch a show about the babies' kids. I'd be so curious about their lives -- jobs, partners, parenting styles, etc. Such a missed opportunity.
So many of these reboots/spin-offs tend to seem like they don't know their audience. They try to show it as "your childhood but new/modern!", but anyone whose childhood did have these characters isn't likely to watch it and if they do they most likely aren't going to like the changes. On the other side, the children who are currently having their childhood most likely don't know who these characters are aside from maybe youtube skits that took their likenesses or those "Nick coloring books!" with lots of 90s shows in them and stuff like that. Having your idea of the original Rugrats grew up (technically continuing All Grown Up too) and raising their own kids, that could appeal to both the new children who need something to watch and the parents who grew up on the original watching with them or saying "i recognize this my child can watch it". I think the new Blues Clues and You show passed the torch nicely, it recycles a lot of the old episodes that children now most likely haven't watched but will enjoy and also gave a nod to their parents/adults who grew up on it with Steve and Joe saying hi and talking to them and Josh. My younger siblings haven't watched as much of that show but from what I saw with them it did this well, so good on them. The bad version of this has gotta be the new FoP live action series, it looks and sound like they needed another Schneider series but couldn't afford the risk of hiring him so they took an existing IP and tried to mix them, when FoP just isn't fit for a live action setting. You can't add "The old characters you knew and loved!" to a new show a decade or more after the original audience grew up, they just won't watch it either out of disinterest or near disgust at the changes, and the new audience has no ties to them so they rely on the show itself which is catering to someone else, leaving them with something less than average. I'm not gunna really throw a fit and say it has to be made for me even though I won't watch it either, but I will be annoyed at how they market and then wonder why they flop and give kids dumb shows that don't stick lol
The thing about original Spongebob and other old shows is that parents can watch them *with* their kids and actually enjoy them. These new shows just have nothing to draw adults in and it feels as if they’re just made so you can let them take care of your kids for a few hours while also melting their brains
I honestly don't understand how Spongebob has somehow become such a hallmark of kids cartoons. While I also watched it, and enjoyed it a ton as a kid, I feel like it teaches terrible lessons. It glorifies being annoying and dragging people into stupid things they don't want to do. It glorifies being a public nuisance. Krabs rarely actually ever suffers a lasting consequence for his greed. Overall, I think the show is actually a terrible influence on kids. When I look at the people pulling shitty pranks on people in public, being a clown in public where people just want to get on their day, Tiktokers and Gym recorders etc etc, and generally people having no regards for anyone in their surroundings, I can't help but think shows like Spongebob are why people grow up like that. Like in hindsight, why are we glorifying an adult, working fast food, who has never grown up past being a fucking 6 year old.
I think it would have been better if Ms Puff and Mr Krabbs kept getting into comedic situations that prevented them from ever seeing and meeting each other.
well i feel like when 2d cartoons are changed to a 3d style, the juxtaposition of the more realistic rendering next to the cartoony proportions can tap into the uncanny valley if it’s not done right. on the other hand, recent 2d animation has seemed consistently appealing imo, like on cartoon network shows for example.
Yeah, as a 3d artist myself they are shooting themselves in the foot by going for a semi realistic render with stylized models and textures. There are so many interesting things you can do with a render that in many cases are quicker to render than a realistic scene that would look so much better. Studio Orange regularly makes amazing looking 3d animated anime that really lean into mimicking the 2d style while taking advantage of the 3d aspects, and love death and robots has some really great looking scenes with a whole host of styles.
The last time I enjoyed a 3D tv show was penguins of Madagascar, I think it was reruns at that point but I remember thinking, “how can they make so many high quality episodes?” Every episode was like a new movie
I'd like to mention that one skylanders cartoon on Netflix, I don't see many people mention it, but I enjoyed it alot even as someone who didn't like skylanders that much.
The 90s was a beautiful time to be a child, because it was the first (and I'd say only) window of time when the entire country started to orient itself around children (thus the "think of the children" memes arriving out of this time period). For instance, McDonald's heavily marketed Happy Meals, to get kids to ask their parents to go there, and I think we all remember "Nickelodeon Magazine... _please_ !" Multiple channels of television were catering to the interests of children, movie studios were producing films for the sole purpose of child consumption, there were game shows specifically for the participation of and consumption by children, restaurants all had some perk or something special for kids, clothing stores for the tastes of boys or girls and _not_ their parents sprouted like wildflowers, and toy advertisements made up 75% of daytime commercials. The guilt of the first major wave of divorce in world history, and the power of harnessing that guilt by directing kids to ask their parents for things, is what got us the 90s.
Since Blues Clues & You is specifically billed as a children’s educational program it must meet certain criteria. Preschool television is highly regulated and run vastly different than the regular animated shows you mentioned. It feels different than the other money-grabs because it’s been legally mandated to be so lol
As a mom to a special needs 4 y/o who has had to spend a lot of time indoors due to his health difficulties & Covid risks, we've watched a lot of different kids TV. How I wish more shows were as good as Blue's Clues. They did so well at keeping it authentic, he loves watching Steve too! He only likes shows that make him immersed in the world &/or ones that talk directly to him like Blue's Clues. Too many are just eye candy with nothing for him to latch on to with his delays, & are completely plastic feeling.
When characters are designed with traditional animation in mind, traditional animation is going to be where the designs work best and it will never be possible to translate them to 3d without losing something.
I think that things definitely (obviously) change, but don’t always lose something 🤷 honestly I haven’t watched watched any 3d cartoons except for a few episodes of Kamp Koral, and like Scott, I changed my mind after seeing the animation in motion. I just hope they’re paying their crew well
Designs will especially change based on a budget. I'm sure that's why a lot of movies with stylized 3d have made it so appealing, Captain Underpants comes to mind, they put a lot more time and money into making sure it looks good for 3d.
Fucking bingo! Translating 2D characters to 3D only works well when the 3D is heavily stylized using 2D principles (go figure), like in The Peanuts Movie or Captain Underpants. And even when done well, they still shine the best in 2D because they were designed around that medium
ehh i would have to disagree.. i think the main problem is the nostalgia people have for these shows really do blind them.. the rugrats example is a great one.. i'd argue that the facial animation is far smoother compared to the 2d original style..
The thing that annoys me about these reboots and spin offs is like… just make a new show. Kids don’t have nostalgia for these shows so why keep milking the ips
Right? And as a millennial parent, I'm honestly going to prefer showing my kid the version I grew up with. The only good reboot IMO has been Daniel Tiger's Neighborhood, because they took one character from the original Mr Rogers Neighborhood (Daniel Striped Tiger) and made the new series based around his son. Same kinds of principles, lessons, etc but totally refreshed. Trying to essentially recreate the show though, like they did with Blues Clues, sucks. Even my kid lost interest in the new version and just wanted to watch Steve. It just lacks the heart when you're trying to essentially retrace lines. Write a new show.
Honestly it be kinda funny if Grandpa Lou was going through a "delayed midlife crisis" and that's what brought all the hippy stuff on, and it be better than a random personality change Also I know Scott probably didn't mention this because he may feel it's not his "place" to speak on it, but they also made the Twins' mom a lesbian, and it comes off as really playing into stereotypes, when in the old show she seemed meant to be subversion of them. A masculine athletic feminist woman whose married to a more calm gentle man who handles the household, that's still a very progressive dynamic. But it feels now like they have played into the "aggressive and individual woman absolutely has to be a butch lesbian" stereotype
There's no problem making progressive characters, the problem is making them either progressive for the sake of being progressive or worse: at the expense of the character.
Wait, then what about the twins' dad? I always thought it was nice that he was the softer, more "motherly" one between them. As a little girl who had a lot of frustration about how society expected me to act, I t made me feel better about wanting to be the potential "pants wearer" in a relationship to see how well they balanced each other :( Is he even in the show?
I was watching Blue's Clues with my young nephew and it honestly is great. You see Steve and Joe help Josh out from time to time, and they add a lot more to the show.
It's funny, because as bad as a lot of today's cartoons seem, I also think there are a lot of good ones out there too that are much higher in quality than some of the stuff I grew up with in the 80s and 90s. I recently re-watched an episode of Goof Troop for instance, and it sucked! It was so poorly-written and the plot was incoherent. But then when I visit my friends with kids, and catch a glimpse of something like "Hilda" I find myself blown away by the quality.
@@halwilche4366 I'm responding to this person's comment about going back and realizing Goof Troop wasn't as good as they remember. I'm not replying to the video. Calm the fudge down before you go white knighting in comments.
You should talk about the disappearing line of cartoons for teenagers, Cartoon Network used to have Adventure Time, but that ended. They used to have Infinity Train, but they cancelled that. They have Ninjago, but that show has been dumbed down in its dark themes to be more kiddy. Everything is Cocomelon on CN now, I feel like that would make for a very interesting video.
Gravity Falls sort of straddled the line, especially as it progressed and started focusing almost exclusively on the conflict between Stan Pines and Bill Cypher, sort of pulling a reverse of what happened to Ninjago. Alex Hirsch has told a bunch of stories about butting heads with the higher ups at Disney over what they'd allow to be broadcast.
What was the last season of Ninjago you've seen? It's still pretty dark. I wish they'd make a more anime style reboot/retelling of it though. I like Legos, but seeing it in normal human animation with them also having a clear idea of where the story is going and having the time to further flush out characters? I'd pay good money for that.
@@dragonninja3655 the last season I saw was the latest one, I’m still awaiting the next batch of episodes. While the show is dark still, I just kinda miss the season 8-10 era, those seasons were extremely dark. It was the era of Ninjago where I was actually on the edge of my seat if a character was gonna die or not. And while Seabound was also pretty dark, I just wish we could return back to the same level of darkness the show had in season 8-10. Those seasons were intense.
I couldn't agree more. There are SO MANY TV shows for little kids who don't understand what quality media is and will eat up anything, therefore the writers don't have to put that much work into the writing, and less and less quality content that appeals to older kids or a wide array of ages. (I.E., Invader Zim, my favorite show of all time, tied with Bob's Burgers)
something that bothers me is that kids deserve good entertainment, stuff that makes them laugh and has actual good story I just don't feel like with all the corporate greed, that good entertainment is being made
@@TheBiggestMoronYouKnow same bro teen titians,avatar, Naruto,dragon ball, power puff girls, kids next door,batman the animated series,Spiderman the animated series,justice league,the grim adventures of billy and Mandy,adventure time,regular show,Ed edd and Eddy, fosters home for imaginary kids,ninja turtles holy fuck so many good shows what happened to current kid shows.
I feel like in terms of animated shows, Disney and Netflix definitely have some of the most beautiful shows out there, like The Owl House, She-ra, Amphibia, kipo and the age of wonderbeasts, carmen sandiego and so on. I think it's not that cartoons are ugly now but it's Nick not giving a crap about the quality
Amphibia and the owl house are amazing. I’m not a kid and I love those shows. Definitely not mind melting like a lot of other modern shows. A lot of thought was put into them.
I like the way the Jimmy Timmy Power Hour series did things. It looked a bit weird seeing the characters in a different style at first, but they look like they fit with the universe they were in.
i know this doesn’t work with the corporate need to make everything as cheap as possible, but if i were to make a 3-D animated Spongebob, i think it would ROCK as claymation instead of computer graphics. it would keep the homemade, rough-around-the-edges heart that the old show had, and i think claymation works way better with the absurdist humor that most people loved Spongebob for
All Grown Up defined my pre-teenhood lmao I was their same age when I watched it and could relate to their struggles so much. Being an only-child, it meant a lot to me.
Same, I think my favourite aspect is how they took Dil who was a pretty uninteresting character in the original and gave him a new and unique personality
I feel that most of the highest quailty shows are more marketed towards pre-teen to young adult rathered than kids. Particularally since teens have a much better understanding of what makes a good show. See Owl House or Amphibia and other shows like them.
Yeah, the budget difference between shows for little kids and shows for like 10-13+ is probably pretty big. Since little kids will watch almost anything, as long as its done in a way that will keep their attention, they don't need to spend lots of money on "good" animation or writing, and then they can use that money on shows that appeal to older audiences who need things like interesting plot, good comedy, decent acting/animation, etc to actually watch a show.
I agree. I know as a little kid I'd be glued to the screen if a cartoon was on regardless if it was good or not. I think also part of the dip in quality has to do with how now apps and streaming services favor quantity over quality, and also I feel like parents aren't quite as in control of what their kids watch now a days. Back when I was little (late 90s early 2000s) my family didn't have cable or internet, and because we lived on the opposite side of the region's TV broadcast tower, we couldn't even get the basic channels. So a lot of what we watched was VHS tapes, which my parents would either buy, they were given to us, or we rented. If my mom hated a show, she'd secretly throw the tape out, but if she thought a show was good she'd buy more of it. We were a bit older we got satellite TV. There were only a limited amount of shows though on the few kids channels, and they only played at certain times, and because of this I feel like networks had a bit more quality control (although there were definitely still really terrible shows, but if my mom got too annoyed by them she'd just tell us not to watch that one). Now a days on youtube kids and kids sections of streaming services its just a constant barrage of "click on this video!" "click on this video!" one after another after another. Companies know that little kids will click on them regardless of if they are garbage or not, so might as well cut down on costs by making them garbage. And because of this it's harder for parents to monitor what kids watch/ even if what they are watching is annoying as long as its not harmful it will be over in a few minutes anyway before their child finds something else. And I'm not trying to barrage the parents here; I don't have kids, but I often watch my toddler nephew and he has boundless energy plus is always getting into something that could hurt him, and many times the only way you can catch your breath is to pull up a terribly animated youtube video for a few minutes. My sister herself has stated many times that she absolutely hates Blippy, but sometimes she just needs her son to sit down in one place for a bit so that she can make dinner without him sneaking up and trying to pull hot pans off the stove.
These new cartoons upset me because the kids who are watching these shows deserve better. Young children aren’t out here watching stranger things or breaking bad. They’re going to watch fast pace brightly moving cartoons. More often than not their first role models outside of their parents are going to be a cartoon character. Think about how many adults you know that are so attached to batman or Pokémon because they grew up watching their Saturday morning cartoons. Good content breeds good content. When we give children smart writing and expressive animation we’re developing a very creative side to them. If this is the standard of current animation then I’m afraid of what the next generation will create. Instead of seeing cartoons made from genuine passion they’re growing up with cartoons made from corporate greed. If the foundation of your creativity is influenced by corporate greed than what kind of product can you expect. Think about how many of your own personal projects are influenced by things you’ve watch as a child. I don’t want kids to think these soulless cash grab projects are okay. It is not a matter of things being 3D or 2D it is a matter of passion and the state of current childrens programing lacks it severely.
@@Lightning-gg5iu yea there are good cartoons today. every generation is gonna have good cartoons but Most of what we considered "good cartoons" have serialized narratives that 10+ kids are going to be watching. That's around that age most kids start to observe story structure and stuff so it makes sense the quality of those shows are going to be better. These rehashed shows that Scott's talking about are aimed at such a younger audience. These shows aim to tell self contained stories within their episodes which is way easier for younger kids to follow vs a season long narrative. So it's important that we give them strong visuals and good story telling since this is going to be their foundation of content before they start watching these more complex cartoons (i.e what we would consider good) But even the good cartoons that are being produced today are suffering from network executives canceling the shows early or giving them shit airing times. It's just unfortunate all around.
this is random and i never leave comments, but im so impressed with the clips youre able to pull up the clip of the grandpa in the original rugrats talking about hippies really was so fitting idk who your editor is or if its you but i just wanna say youre doing a great job the attention to detail is paying off
@@ScottCramer W editor. Never stop making your amazing vids! I’ve been watching for like 3 years, I believe it was the oddly specific music video. Keep it up, you got a fan forever!
I feel like if a cartoon was designed in 3D it looks fine in 3D. if it was designed for 2D, leave it in 2D. the first show that comes to mind is Httyd Race to the edge- I was designed in 3D and it looks pretty good tbh. and when you think about it- shows based on movies that are 3D and move to 2D are fine. that's because they stylize the 3D. if they try to stylize the 2D into 3D maybe it would work
I disagree. 2D characters can be made into 3D and have it look good. Look up the 3D Looney Tunes shorts that came out in the 2010s. They look amazing. But they had more money and effort put into them.
@@joevictor53 I agree it can work but I think it has to be done by people who know what they're doing and actually care about making it look good. But that's just kinda how I see it
I agree entirely with this video, definitely wish for more diversity in animation now, like the 90s-2000s. I have found some kids shows that are still really good, but it's sadly a lot more rare. And sometimes beautiful animation isn't needed for a great show, as long the heart and soul is still there and not just corporate garbage.
I know Butch Hartman is basically canceled, but he said a while ago something to the effect of "there have always been bad cartoons, but it does feel like the bad cartoons these days are REALLY bad", and I agree. At least the bad cartoons when he was growing up had the excuse of having a budget of like $1 and a bowl of a soup.
yeah, i typically always prefer 2d animation bc of the style and creativity they are able to put into it- but i try not to automatically judge stuff just based off of art style anymore bc animation in general isnt easy and sometimes great stories can come from unlikely places. some of my personal favorite 3d cartoons off the top of my head are things like 2012 tmnt and transformers prime. i think 3d animation can rly help in cartoons with heavy action, but even stuff like code lyoko managed to pull off both styles just bc i was so invested in the story as a kid. but changing a media from 2d to 3d and vice versa is where things can get weird if not done correctly. interesting video scott!
i am a 3D expert. the reason 3D shows may often look ugly even if they design the show specifically to be 3D , is that your brain is naturally more sensitive to 3D content. and therefore is more critical of its flaws. this in return creates a much stronger uncanny vally effect when your 3D content does not meet those standards . 3D simply needs so much more effort and care then 2D in order to look as good and be a true "wow" show . with 2D those standards and the need for more detail is not present which leaves the artist/studio more headroom to do things with less budget. 3D is in fact MORE difficult then 2D and more expansive.. if you want to make a good looking show. but studios often abuse the animation advantage of 3D to reduce the budget. but even if you cut 20% of the quality you will fail at making good 3D. now imagine reducing it to less budget then a 2D show would have.. JUST NO , ABSOLUTLY NOT. cheap 3D will never look good like that. then you add the fact that they directly rip off 2D designs with no effort or care for adapting them to a 3D environment. some designs just dont work in 3D due to the hard limitations on perspective and the harder limitations on framerate. finally we have lighting and contrast. in 2D your mind wont care much for lighting quality.. but 3D is ALL lighting. .. you cant have dull environments with simple shadows and no direct sun like 2D Does. good 3D requires high contrast or dynamic lighting that highlights the characters better . i could talk more but this comment is simply too long already
one thing i absolutely love about old spongebob episodes (when they used animation cells) is the fact that the lineart had different colors that contrasted with the fill colors in a really nice way. like it just looks really cool. its something ive noticed and adopted into my art as a result. i think the newer 2d spongebob episodes do it as well, but its a lot less noticable than in the older episodes due to the thinner more uniform line weight as well as the lineart colors themselves being more muted.
The only way I could justify it in my brain is saying that camp Coral takes place in an alternate universe then the normal SpongeBob. And I don't think that's too far off considering basically every franchise is putting some multiversal stuff into their movies or TV shows lately
I think Stephen would’ve not been against a well done spin-off, but Kamp Koral is such an obvious cash grab… Changing the storyline the creator was a part of is so rude. And just animation in general, back when it took longer to make and it was hand drawn, you felt more connected to it. Everything just seems so sterile and the storylines are lazy/repetitive. I think these new shows are trying to compete with stuff like Cocomelon and TH-cam. But TV shows are meant to take time and have more complete storylines! It’s a different medium. I mean, I watch anime still and see a lot of these problems there too lol Viacom also sucks ass in general lol Cartoon Network has been pretty consistent with good cartoons (minus Teen Titans Go!) compared to Disney and Nick.
I promise you there are loads of new cartoons with amazing animation like The Owl House, Dead end, Amphibia, Bluey, Hilda and so many more they arent just making these shows for a money grab they are making shows to help with representation and learning for kids and im so glad my children are gonna grow up with these
You are perfecting your craft! The ad roll, the transitions between different characters of yourself, editing, and genuinely the content you put out where you don’t find one thing to review and run that into the ground. Plus a bunch of other things that make you my favorite commentator channel. Thank you!
I’m 20 and I still watch cartoons on the occasion (but if I’m honest with myself the older I get the more anime I watch so I guess I never really graduated from cartoons) but none of these truly bother me as much as fairly odd parents. I just don’t understand how they could reasonably make such an unrealistic magical show into a real person show. I just don’t understand…
Glad to see you're doing more collabs with Scott Kramer, his side comments really add a balanced point of view and his questions are always moving the commentary forward. Plus he's got a cool-guy toothpick
I also feel like there's a ton of amazing cartoons out there that have been coming out as well. Like are these cartoons bad and look bad? Yes. Should these shows be a judge of all cartoons as a whole of this era? No. Disney for example, they had 2 amazing cartoons that started airing in 2019-2020, owl house and amphibia, both of which are amazing shows that are well animated and tell very compelling stories with good diversity that kids need more of! Infinity train is another kids show that is amazing and worth watching that started airing in 2019! Cartoon network also has some really well animated shows currently or recently started airing, shows like Craig of the creek, Elliot from earth, we baby bears, etc. I think every era of cartoons has bad cartoons and as someone who loves animation, I've seen the bad in every era and I don't think this is the worst era of cartoons. I think most people just have nostalgia for old cartoons and don't want to think about how their childhood also had some really bad cartoons.
Ive been rewatching spongebob lately, I swear the shows first seasons only get funnier the older you get. Jimmy nutron is a close second though. even though the 3d animation is super weird looking (some may even call it ugly) I think the writing and overall creativity is what saved the show. Animation doesnt necassarily need to be great to have a great show.
Animator here, yeah the 3D change is a loop of cheaper to do > Makes it more common > out of touch execs see it's everywhere and assume it's popular > the cycle continues. 3D can be done very well but you need to budget well and stylize accordingly. A lot of these shows also get produced in tight turnarounds which might make it look cheaper than it was intended. There are a lot of good cartoons out there today though, especially for kids! They might be a bit harder to find because there is just so much being produced nowadays that it just overwhelms the market, but genuinely I think there are some stellar shows being made by extremely passionate and talented people. I see a lot that's around and am happy kids of today get to grow up with it! The art is still here!
thank you for this! i’m hoping to work on cartoons myself someday and it’s always so difficult to look at comments on these kinds of videos because most people don’t keep up with the field and think that animation stopped being good whenever they grew up. there are always failures and successes in every era, it’s just harder to notice the wins now due to streaming
You know my daughter loves both of the Boss Baby shows and movies. That means I’ve watched everything all the way through at least 10 times at this point. But thankfully I actually think it’s a great and pretty funny show, and it will make you emotional at some points, especially the series finale of the first show. I know it sounds ridiculous but I’d love to see Scott review it.
While there is a lot of low quality content out there now when it comes to cartoons. I would like to call out that there are still some absolute all stars that can go toe to toe with the best cartoons of the 90s and 00s. Craig of the Creek, Bluey, Amphibia, Hilda, The Amazing World of Gumball, and Gravity Falls (those last ones finished up a couple years ago), all of those shows are fantastic and should be checked out if you have any interest in animation. Ducktales is also one that has evolved into something that is really impressive, its changed its visual style, but kept a lot of the heart while adding to its characters.
Remember: If you’re only rebuttal is to say that Scott’s inexperience in making cartoons invalidates his thoughts then you should close TH-cam, get off the internet, and go to sleep. You have a big day at elementary school tomorrow.
For anyone who still uses Webkinz, have you SEEN the "new and improved" version of the game? It is HORRIFIC compared to how cute the original 2D animation is. And for anyone who doesnt, still go look at it, it proves Scott's point again.
They animate them differently now too which is probably why there's more 3d stuff because it's easier to make them move. Before they would animate each thing by hand, or rather make a story board like an animatic and then ship it off to an overseas sweatshop where they would animate it one frame at a time. Now a really popular thing is to animate with rigging. It's like if you had character models for each segment of the body for like hands and arms and then you would have a base that you programmed to move a certain way, then you would plug in all those separate limbs to make it look like the character. This can make the cartoon look soulless in my opinion, but it can also be done very well like the Cuphead show for instance was done with rigging and it does not look bad! I am not a professional this is just the knowledge I've accumulated from around the internet and I don't know where I got it all from lol
The quote was actually that he didn’t like the idea of spinoffs because he just wanted nickelodeon to continue doing SpongeBob but I’m one of 11 viewers so I don’t know maybe you’ll get more comments about this but you do great work
They did this Arthur but kept it 2D instead of 3D (thankfully I guess). They changed from the orginal style to flash animation in the later seasons and it just looks so weird. All the characters move so stiffly and awkwardly, literally look flats. That flash animation style just doesn't look good and feels so...off and lazy, if that makes sense.
I think that also was the case with newer TFOP episodes, at some time, I think 1-2 season before the show ended the animation looked so weird compared to the older seasons. But I've stopped watching the show around the time Sparky (the dog) was added so I'm not exactly sure when they switched to Flash xD
I think the difference between good and bad animated children’s cartoons now a days is how authentic they really are. Some shows are clearly continuing the same core messages and themes while slowly adapting to technological advancements in animation. While other shows are clear cash grabs with no heart behind them. If you want to look at quality children’s entertainment now I think 2D shows like big city greens, Hilda, the owl house (rip), miraculous ladybug (to a degree) and more are trying to tell creative and new stories that fascinate children and inspire adults!
Last cartoons I watched and thoroughly enjoyed as an adult we're Gravity Falls and Star vs the Forces of Evil. Both seem to have held onto that old school feel, and the stories are intense and heartfelt. If I ever had kids, I'd show those to them.
I get that this video is just to goof on some bad shows, but I would like to tell people about some really good and (mostly) fun cartoons. • Infinity train You follow a new main character every season, while they try and solve their problems on an interdimensional train. • Over the garden wall Two brothers end up in a forest called the Unknown and try to find a way back home. • The owl house Luz ends up in a place called the demon realm and learns how to become a witch. • Amphibia Anne and her two friends end up in a world inhabited by amphibians. It might be difficult to get started with this one, but I promise you it's all worth it. • DuckTales An amazing reboot of the original show Of course there are many more amazing shows, but these are some of my favorites. If you have any other cartoons, please tell me. I'm always looking for new shows to watch. Also, I get that the video was about 3D animated shows and these are all 2D, but I just wanted to take this opportunity to recommend some amazing shows.
I'm glad you came around on the Spongebob Animation. I don't know anything about how good the shows content is, but I always thought the 3D animation and visuals were nice, They do look genuinely animated with some artistic intent. The Rugrats does have that coldness of template animations though, like there's not much actual work put into it, just rendered models in a 3D environment.
I think the main reason we feel so upset is the generation before didn't have their cartoons remade to this extent. The shows we grew up with never technically ended, just recycled it a way that is trying to appeal to a new audience.
That transition to the ad may be the smoothest I’ve ever seen. Almost as smooth and beautiful as 90s & early 2000s cartoons and animation. It’s okay to cry about it, my man. We had the best cartoons.
ok yes i fucking love the variety available for western animation. i will always be a sucker for 2D animation because you can do so much with it. think of adventure time, steven universe, gravity falls, rick and morty, etc. imagine how odd it would look in 3D; it’s too “clean.”
As someone who's done 2d animation and 3d animation, I know that once you model the characters and sets for a 3d animation and you get the lighting perfect it becomes a little easier to animate. If they put more effort into the models I would have no problem with that but if they don't, 2d animation will clearly take more time and effort to make. Therefore the quality would be better in 2d animations because the animators can't become lazy when animating without making something completely unwatchable.
The thing about Rugrats is…it’s always been ugly. It’s ugly in 3D, it’s ugly in 2D. And anyone who says differently has their nostalgia filter on, because that’s by design. The character designer said he wanted the characters to be strange instead of cute.
Jellystone is good example of a remade cartoon that is pretty good, I really like it :) It's not 3d tho (thankfully) but almost every character has a different design style and I think that's pretty cool
That grandpa guy in Rugrats didn't even really match the voice acting. It felt like the admittedly pretty decent voice acting sounds like it's coming from speakers in the same room as the character, rather than actually being the voice of the character himself
I've never watched too much 3D animation, mostly just miraculous. And hey, that show is a giant pile of writing Dumpsterfires but at least it (mostly) looks really really good, especially the specials, and the movie's gonna go CRAZY hard with the artstyle
I know literally everyone else in the comments is adding to this but I also had a few shows to recommend, kind of delving into the stuff you brought up: In terms of 2D, The owl house, Amphibia, Hilda, Gravity Falls, Craig of the Creek, Mao Mao, The Ghost and Molly Mcgee, Kipo, and Centaurworld are all very stellar shows For 3D, although a bit more limited, the dragon prince, Miraculous, and Jurassic World Camp Cretaceous I find to be pretty decent watches. And for reboots, Ducktales, Animaniacs, Rise of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, and She ra do their original works justice by a long shot I’ve also heard that Arcane, Bluey, Paranormal Park, Monkey Kid, and Wander over Yander are good watches too. Sorry for the long comment, but I really adore some of the cartoons of this generation!! I get a handful of people think animation has gone completely downhill, but frankly, I think this generation has some of the best storytelling in cartoons, well, ever! To anyone reading this, if you’ve got nothing else to do, maybe give some of these a shot :D
Honestly 2d animation is much better, there’s just something about taking a character designed to be 2d and making them 3d that looks wrong, but then I also see things animated in 3d that just look terrible even if the characters were designed to be 3d. but that’s my opinion of course. I also agree that taking an animated show and making it live action almost never works. You go from a medium that allows you to do anything and make it look real in the context of the world, now contrast that with live action and the second a character needs to fly or lift something extremely heavy you need to go to cgi, or wires, or use props and they often feel flat and hollow despite being live action. obviously it’s possible to make a good live action remake but I don’t think you can capture everything, some stories just have too many things that are impossible to make look good and something has to be cut, but nobody wants to plan a live action show with the mindset that it will be lacking elements compared to the original.
I've seen many videos talking about kamp koral, and they always talk about the looks or the general feel of the first episode. I however, have never seen a video talking about how the show pushes genuinely harmful lessions onto kids. the 2nd episode says that strangers are trustworthy and have candy that makes you feel good and are just generally super cool. the 3rd episode incorporates full on , realistic trucks as playthings that should be climbed over and stab. you can watch the show for yourself if you want, it's super blatant.
As for Grandpa on the Rugrats, it’s technically a reboot, so they’re essentially rewriting his origin story. In the 90’s it made sense to make him a war vet, but in 2020 (or whenever the reboot started) they decided to make him more of an anti-Vietnam protester/hippie. As for the art style, I don’t really pay much attention since I’m not the demo for that show. I’m just glad my niece and nephew can grow up with the Rugrats like I did.
Ooof, oh my sweet summer Scott. Fierce is what my high school hallway smelled like. I’m fairly certain there’s still a bottle in My parents bathroom. Graduated 08’ for year reference.
Big City Greens honestly feels more like the Simpsons than modern Simpsons does Also Mao Mao Heroes of Pure Heart, Rise of the TMNT, DC Superhero Girls ...theres a lot.of good animated series that get less focus than the big ones right now
I think the Grandpa Lou change is a lot more to do with time passing. It's been 30 years since the original show started. The parents are millennials now, so the generation their parents are from has changed as well. It's been like 6 months since I watched, but I actually kind of liked what I saw of the new show, animation aside. They left in the subplots about the parents, for one thing, and they can be more forward with some of the issues like Chuckie and his dad having anxiety. I was all set to hate it, too, because I didn't like All Grown Up, and Rugrats is one of the shows that was a huge part of my childhood. Only show I know of with a Passover special (not counting Shalom Sesame), and a Channukah special that felt like it was made for me instead of to educate my peers about me. Actually one of very few cartoons I watched as a kid. Edit: I say I didn't like All Grown Up--I think I may have enjoyed it as a kid, but didn't watch regularly enough to have a solid opinion not heavily influenced by my parents. I don't remember hating it last time I watched it, but I think I didn't like some of what I saw and there were a few things that really put me off, even if they might have seemed small to others.
growing up, i was right in the transitional phase between some really good shows (regular show, adventure time, amazing world of gumball, ect;) into the ones you're talking about and honestly? i did get bored. even when i was 8 or 9 i would try to watch new cartoon network shows and i hated them. they felt boring and cookie-cutter to me.
It's one thing to do remakes to squeeze money out of adults. It's another to not provide kids with original, stimulating content just because it follows the guide a studio follows to maximize profit. Kids need to see originality for their growth
The new Rugrats literally looks like the PlayStation 1 Rugrats Studio Tour game from 1999 😫 On a positive note, I don’t know what it is about your channel but I don’t laugh this hard on other channels. I’ll laugh quite a bit but never these huge belly laughs all throughout. Even the All Grown Up theme song at the end did it to me. Your humor style hits hard. You rock Scott.
I love the part of this video about Grandpa Lou's transformation. The change is bizarre to those who used to watch Rug Rats... but it sort of makes sense. I would watch Rug Rats in late 90s early 00s, and I think a lot of ~5year olds at that time had or knew of a grandpa that was a "grumpy old war vet who said crazy sh*t". It was relatable. Now people my parents age are becoming grandparents... and they look like the new Grandpa Lou... new Grandpa Lou might be actually be "relatable" for a current 5 year old. New Rug Rats was made for a new generation of kids with soft spoken, tie dye wearing, weed smoking grandparents.
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I think “soulless” is a better word than “ugly.” Lots of nineties cartoons were ugly, but the art styles were used to give the shows their tone and identity.
true bro
Backyardigans was a 3D kids show from 2004 and it still manages to look better than most 3D kids shows today.
Fr it looks so soft and comfortable. Everything 3D now looks more like plastic than the nightmare fuel short about the baby and toy solider from Pixar. Like one of their first.
Jimmy neutron was from 2001 and it was also so amazing
@@Birchlead sir why did you just try to put out my nightmares by pouring more nightmare fuel on them? Sir! (No clue if you are a sir or not) but really, Sir!
@@noahclaycameron LOL did you look it up??? It’s so bad but there’s a charm. I love the old man playing chess and the snow globe shorts too.
Yes!!! I had younger siblings and then went on to be a nanny and that show was one of the few I enjoyed, the rest were assaults to the eyes and ears!
I feel like 3D-ifying 2D animated characters completely soils the charm that the original character had.
This is bait for me to repeatedly type "soiled it" in all caps
Eh disagree- there are lots of 3D styles that do a good job at capturing the charm while maintaining the appeal- it’s just a matter of effort- these shows are made super cheaply which caused the quality to suffer as a result
2D isn’t meant to be turned into 3D
@@kenn_k lol
@@lioedevon4275 yeah.
I have been grieving the fall of old-school animation. The almost claymation look creates a creepy uncanny valley vibe.
I WISH they were claymation.
actually legitimate claymation is less hideous.
plus it's respectable as a unique and challenging art form even if you despise its looks.
Amen 🙌
I couldn't agree more!
Whatever this new animation is... It's the stuff of nightmares 😂
we should be giving our children quality and mentally stimulating content. respect our kids not just trying to distract them.
Have you ever tried sitting down with your kids, turning off the TV, *and HITTING THEM.*
- Bender Bending Rodríguez
Even though they're "made for kids" these shows are just so lazy and uninspired. Spongebob was so popular because it was absurd, original, and creative. Just taking the characters and putting them in a different show doesn't mean that it's any good.
While I don't watch it really, Gumball is pretty funny and original. It seems to connect with kids more than these soulless reboots ever will
Edit: There are plenty of great cartoons nowadays, I'm specifically referring to these cheap reboots. The only reason I picked Gumball was because it has a very modern sense of humor and would be what I'd consider the next generation's spongebob
If I had the chance to change that I would
I don’t think I’ve watched enough cartoons made after 2012-ish to have much of a strong opinion, but I will say that there is some charming stuff out there. I’m always plugging the Japanese-English subbed animes (see username) but some other animated shows I’ve seen over the last several years that have great animation/story:
-Infinity Train
-Amphibia
-The Owl House
-Steven Universe
-Milo’s Murphy Law (Phineas and Ferb spin-off sorta)
-Voltron other than the last few episodes lol
I haven’t seen the entire series other than Infinity Train, Voltron, and Milo, but I did see 5 or more episodes of the others I listed.
Some of these shows aren’t exactly new but they weren’t around in the 2000s when I was a cartoon-watching drone.
It gives me hope that there are fewer stereotypes and more LGBT+ rep in many popular cartoons. .I hope this continues to improve along with higher quality animation
Regular show was the fucking best
I agree, regular hit different. Plus Gravity Falls was pretty funny
Really feels like any reboot is usually doomed. Just cash grabs trying to monetize from another shows popularity. Sort of makes sense because mostly any reboot will involve a whole new set of writers and everything in between never getting the feel of the original show just right
SpongeBob really fell off when they decided to animate it in GoAnimate
I thought it was weird when they bragged about hiring a koala bear to do it too, like don’t they know humans are better at that kind of stuff??
@@ScottCramer I heard they hired a far sighted baboon to do it as well.
Koala is superior
@@ScottCramer it was probably a diversity hire
Someone explain this to me
I agree with Scott that this isn't *made for* adults... it's just, at the same time, it's so blatantly indicative of the cynical business-first decision making that went into rebooting these properties into an inferior form.
Me, I'm like, why reboot the original Rugrats cast but in the 2020s instead of the 1990s? Why not let the babies grow all the way up, become parents of their own children, and make a show about those new babies? Kids today have no attachment to the older characters, so why are you baiting millennials with nostalgia only to make a product with nothing for them? It doesn't make any sense to me, consarnit!
You are a corporate genius /j
I'd actually watch a show about the babies' kids. I'd be so curious about their lives -- jobs, partners, parenting styles, etc. Such a missed opportunity.
@@CreatEr1n lol you’re right that would literally appeal to millennials more
So many of these reboots/spin-offs tend to seem like they don't know their audience. They try to show it as "your childhood but new/modern!", but anyone whose childhood did have these characters isn't likely to watch it and if they do they most likely aren't going to like the changes. On the other side, the children who are currently having their childhood most likely don't know who these characters are aside from maybe youtube skits that took their likenesses or those "Nick coloring books!" with lots of 90s shows in them and stuff like that. Having your idea of the original Rugrats grew up (technically continuing All Grown Up too) and raising their own kids, that could appeal to both the new children who need something to watch and the parents who grew up on the original watching with them or saying "i recognize this my child can watch it".
I think the new Blues Clues and You show passed the torch nicely, it recycles a lot of the old episodes that children now most likely haven't watched but will enjoy and also gave a nod to their parents/adults who grew up on it with Steve and Joe saying hi and talking to them and Josh. My younger siblings haven't watched as much of that show but from what I saw with them it did this well, so good on them. The bad version of this has gotta be the new FoP live action series, it looks and sound like they needed another Schneider series but couldn't afford the risk of hiring him so they took an existing IP and tried to mix them, when FoP just isn't fit for a live action setting. You can't add "The old characters you knew and loved!" to a new show a decade or more after the original audience grew up, they just won't watch it either out of disinterest or near disgust at the changes, and the new audience has no ties to them so they rely on the show itself which is catering to someone else, leaving them with something less than average.
I'm not gunna really throw a fit and say it has to be made for me even though I won't watch it either, but I will be annoyed at how they market and then wonder why they flop and give kids dumb shows that don't stick lol
No cap
The thing about original Spongebob and other old shows is that parents can watch them *with* their kids and actually enjoy them. These new shows just have nothing to draw adults in and it feels as if they’re just made so you can let them take care of your kids for a few hours while also melting their brains
I honestly don't understand how Spongebob has somehow become such a hallmark of kids cartoons. While I also watched it, and enjoyed it a ton as a kid, I feel like it teaches terrible lessons. It glorifies being annoying and dragging people into stupid things they don't want to do. It glorifies being a public nuisance. Krabs rarely actually ever suffers a lasting consequence for his greed.
Overall, I think the show is actually a terrible influence on kids. When I look at the people pulling shitty pranks on people in public, being a clown in public where people just want to get on their day, Tiktokers and Gym recorders etc etc, and generally people having no regards for anyone in their surroundings, I can't help but think shows like Spongebob are why people grow up like that.
Like in hindsight, why are we glorifying an adult, working fast food, who has never grown up past being a fucking 6 year old.
@@TenjinZekkenbruh shut up 😂
@@Liquexoxo Found one of the people I was talking about.
I think it would have been better if Ms Puff and Mr Krabbs kept getting into comedic situations that prevented them from ever seeing and meeting each other.
Kind of like Anakin and Grievous in Clone Wars
well i feel like when 2d cartoons are changed to a 3d style, the juxtaposition of the more realistic rendering next to the cartoony proportions can tap into the uncanny valley if it’s not done right. on the other hand, recent 2d animation has seemed consistently appealing imo, like on cartoon network shows for example.
I agree many of the Cartoon Network 2d shows have some really good and unique animation styles
Yeah, as a 3d artist myself they are shooting themselves in the foot by going for a semi realistic render with stylized models and textures. There are so many interesting things you can do with a render that in many cases are quicker to render than a realistic scene that would look so much better. Studio Orange regularly makes amazing looking 3d animated anime that really lean into mimicking the 2d style while taking advantage of the 3d aspects, and love death and robots has some really great looking scenes with a whole host of styles.
@@sirforcer not just that- but with camp coral the lighting is very cheap which makes everybody look dead
for real! Shows like Steven Universe have such a unique art and animation style, as well as fantastic backgrounds and color palettes
I want Disney to put out another cartoon movie in 2D
The last time I enjoyed a 3D tv show was penguins of Madagascar, I think it was reruns at that point but I remember thinking, “how can they make so many high quality episodes?” Every episode was like a new movie
And How To Train Your Dragon too, that shit is lit, even with reusing scene
I loved that show and Kung Fu Panda and Riders of Berk. And Jimmy Neutron. So some were good! But had heart. These....do not lol
I'd like to mention that one skylanders cartoon on Netflix, I don't see many people mention it, but I enjoyed it alot even as someone who didn't like skylanders that much.
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The Amazing World of Gumball actually had an incredibly unique art style. It was funny and original, too, with likable characters. Hard recommend.
One of the best shows of its era by far.
Gumball is /amazing/. 10000% agreed, would recommend. Especially if you're around your 20s alot of adult-humor/references. Great great show 👌
Cartoons mixed with real life pictures in the background 🤯 actually pretty cool
Overall it’s one of the very few good modern cartoons.
Sad that the movie's fate is on limbo though...
I love how he said in that interview response that “a show with Patrick by himself might be a bit much” and now we have the Patrick Star Show 🙃
The 90s was a beautiful time to be a child, because it was the first (and I'd say only) window of time when the entire country started to orient itself around children (thus the "think of the children" memes arriving out of this time period). For instance, McDonald's heavily marketed Happy Meals, to get kids to ask their parents to go there, and I think we all remember "Nickelodeon Magazine... _please_ !" Multiple channels of television were catering to the interests of children, movie studios were producing films for the sole purpose of child consumption, there were game shows specifically for the participation of and consumption by children, restaurants all had some perk or something special for kids, clothing stores for the tastes of boys or girls and _not_ their parents sprouted like wildflowers, and toy advertisements made up 75% of daytime commercials.
The guilt of the first major wave of divorce in world history, and the power of harnessing that guilt by directing kids to ask their parents for things, is what got us the 90s.
Since Blues Clues & You is specifically billed as a children’s educational program it must meet certain criteria. Preschool television is highly regulated and run vastly different than the regular animated shows you mentioned. It feels different than the other money-grabs because it’s been legally mandated to be so lol
As a mom to a special needs 4 y/o who has had to spend a lot of time indoors due to his health difficulties & Covid risks, we've watched a lot of different kids TV. How I wish more shows were as good as Blue's Clues. They did so well at keeping it authentic, he loves watching Steve too! He only likes shows that make him immersed in the world &/or ones that talk directly to him like Blue's Clues. Too many are just eye candy with nothing for him to latch on to with his delays, & are completely plastic feeling.
When characters are designed with traditional animation in mind, traditional animation is going to be where the designs work best and it will never be possible to translate them to 3d without losing something.
I think that things definitely (obviously) change, but don’t always lose something 🤷 honestly I haven’t watched watched any 3d cartoons
except for a few episodes of Kamp Koral, and like Scott, I changed my mind after seeing the animation in motion.
I just hope they’re paying their crew
well
Designs will especially change based on a budget. I'm sure that's why a lot of movies with stylized 3d have made it so appealing, Captain Underpants comes to mind, they put a lot more time and money into making sure it looks good for 3d.
Fucking bingo! Translating 2D characters to 3D only works well when the 3D is heavily stylized using 2D principles (go figure), like in The Peanuts Movie or Captain Underpants.
And even when done well, they still shine the best in 2D because they were designed around that medium
this is such a bad take. watch lupin III:the first
ehh i would have to disagree.. i think the main problem is the nostalgia people have for these shows really do blind them.. the rugrats example is a great one.. i'd argue that the facial animation is far smoother compared to the 2d original style..
The thing that annoys me about these reboots and spin offs is like… just make a new show. Kids don’t have nostalgia for these shows so why keep milking the ips
Right? And as a millennial parent, I'm honestly going to prefer showing my kid the version I grew up with.
The only good reboot IMO has been Daniel Tiger's Neighborhood, because they took one character from the original Mr Rogers Neighborhood (Daniel Striped Tiger) and made the new series based around his son. Same kinds of principles, lessons, etc but totally refreshed.
Trying to essentially recreate the show though, like they did with Blues Clues, sucks. Even my kid lost interest in the new version and just wanted to watch Steve. It just lacks the heart when you're trying to essentially retrace lines. Write a new show.
Honestly it be kinda funny if Grandpa Lou was going through a "delayed midlife crisis" and that's what brought all the hippy stuff on, and it be better than a random personality change
Also I know Scott probably didn't mention this because he may feel it's not his "place" to speak on it, but they also made the Twins' mom a lesbian, and it comes off as really playing into stereotypes, when in the old show she seemed meant to be subversion of them. A masculine athletic feminist woman whose married to a more calm gentle man who handles the household, that's still a very progressive dynamic. But it feels now like they have played into the "aggressive and individual woman absolutely has to be a butch lesbian" stereotype
big agree
I agree. Makes total sense
There's no problem making progressive characters, the problem is making them either progressive for the sake of being progressive or worse: at the expense of the character.
@@Fay7666 they’re doing both, it’s unfortunate
Wait, then what about the twins' dad? I always thought it was nice that he was the softer, more "motherly" one between them. As a little girl who had a lot of frustration about how society expected me to act, I t made me feel better about wanting to be the potential "pants wearer" in a relationship to see how well they balanced each other :( Is he even in the show?
I was watching Blue's Clues with my young nephew and it honestly is great. You see Steve and Joe help Josh out from time to time, and they add a lot more to the show.
It's funny, because as bad as a lot of today's cartoons seem, I also think there are a lot of good ones out there too that are much higher in quality than some of the stuff I grew up with in the 80s and 90s. I recently re-watched an episode of Goof Troop for instance, and it sucked! It was so poorly-written and the plot was incoherent. But then when I visit my friends with kids, and catch a glimpse of something like "Hilda" I find myself blown away by the quality.
Phineas and Ferb for the win
Nostalgia goggles play a huge role. Everyone has always thought their cartoons were better than whatever is on now.
How’s Canada
We watched your videos in Social Studies this school year lol
@@halwilche4366 I'm responding to this person's comment about going back and realizing Goof Troop wasn't as good as they remember. I'm not replying to the video. Calm the fudge down before you go white knighting in comments.
You should talk about the disappearing line of cartoons for teenagers, Cartoon Network used to have Adventure Time, but that ended. They used to have Infinity Train, but they cancelled that. They have Ninjago, but that show has been dumbed down in its dark themes to be more kiddy.
Everything is Cocomelon on CN now, I feel like that would make for a very interesting video.
Gravity Falls sort of straddled the line, especially as it progressed and started focusing almost exclusively on the conflict between Stan Pines and Bill Cypher, sort of pulling a reverse of what happened to Ninjago. Alex Hirsch has told a bunch of stories about butting heads with the higher ups at Disney over what they'd allow to be broadcast.
Right! Remember My Life As a Teenage Robot and The Adventures of Billy and Mandy? Those were so much better. As Told By Ginger?
What was the last season of Ninjago you've seen? It's still pretty dark. I wish they'd make a more anime style reboot/retelling of it though. I like Legos, but seeing it in normal human animation with them also having a clear idea of where the story is going and having the time to further flush out characters? I'd pay good money for that.
@@dragonninja3655 the last season I saw was the latest one, I’m still awaiting the next batch of episodes. While the show is dark still, I just kinda miss the season 8-10 era, those seasons were extremely dark. It was the era of Ninjago where I was actually on the edge of my seat if a character was gonna die or not. And while Seabound was also pretty dark, I just wish we could return back to the same level of darkness the show had in season 8-10. Those seasons were intense.
I couldn't agree more. There are SO MANY TV shows for little kids who don't understand what quality media is and will eat up anything, therefore the writers don't have to put that much work into the writing, and less and less quality content that appeals to older kids or a wide array of ages. (I.E., Invader Zim, my favorite show of all time, tied with Bob's Burgers)
something that bothers me is that kids deserve good entertainment, stuff that makes them laugh and has actual good story
I just don't feel like with all the corporate greed, that good entertainment is being made
I don’t think most kids are really watching these shows. They probably spend their time watching TH-cam and TikTok.
100% agree. ‘Why do you care? Its for children’ yeah,so? They deserve good shows and movies…
These shows try to bank of nostalgia to lure people in.
If I have kids, they’re gonna be rewatching a lot of my childhood shows
@@TheBiggestMoronYouKnow same bro teen titians,avatar, Naruto,dragon ball, power puff girls, kids next door,batman the animated series,Spiderman the animated series,justice league,the grim adventures of billy and Mandy,adventure time,regular show,Ed edd and Eddy, fosters home for imaginary kids,ninja turtles holy fuck so many good shows what happened to current kid shows.
I feel like in terms of animated shows, Disney and Netflix definitely have some of the most beautiful shows out there, like The Owl House, She-ra, Amphibia, kipo and the age of wonderbeasts, carmen sandiego and so on. I think it's not that cartoons are ugly now but it's Nick not giving a crap about the quality
Amphibia and the owl house are amazing. I’m not a kid and I love those shows. Definitely not mind melting like a lot of other modern shows. A lot of thought was put into them.
I like the way the Jimmy Timmy Power Hour series did things. It looked a bit weird seeing the characters in a different style at first, but they look like they fit with the universe they were in.
i know this doesn’t work with the corporate need to make everything as cheap as possible, but if i were to make a 3-D animated Spongebob, i think it would ROCK as claymation instead of computer graphics. it would keep the homemade, rough-around-the-edges heart that the old show had, and i think claymation works way better with the absurdist humor that most people loved Spongebob for
agreed! the stop motion specials they did for christmas a while back looked really cute
@@fusetunes yesss i was trying to remember where i’d seen claymation spongebob!!
@aaa There's literally not enough people on Earth crazy enough to make a Spongebob claymation for more than an episode or two.
@@MK_ULTRA420 i think it could be possible if it was produced like moral orel. or maybe using clay looking models in a 3d program
I really loved All Grown Up. It was fun seeing the crew a little older. Their personalities stayed the same.
Same! My cousins and I still enjoy rewatching it just like when we were little girls.
I loved it too! I wish more shows did that.
All Grown Up defined my pre-teenhood lmao I was their same age when I watched it and could relate to their struggles so much. Being an only-child, it meant a lot to me.
Same, I think my favourite aspect is how they took Dil who was a pretty uninteresting character in the original and gave him a new and unique personality
Yes! Especially when you were growing up with them!!!
I feel that most of the highest quailty shows are more marketed towards pre-teen to young adult rathered than kids. Particularally since teens have a much better understanding of what makes a good show. See Owl House or Amphibia and other shows like them.
Yeah, the budget difference between shows for little kids and shows for like 10-13+ is probably pretty big. Since little kids will watch almost anything, as long as its done in a way that will keep their attention, they don't need to spend lots of money on "good" animation or writing, and then they can use that money on shows that appeal to older audiences who need things like interesting plot, good comedy, decent acting/animation, etc to actually watch a show.
Hot Take: I didn't care for Owl House OR Amphibia. The premise alone just DID NOT hook me in. The Ghost and Molly McGee, on the other hand...
@@JamesMSmithsDeadTH-camChannel Valid, I also liked The Ghost and Molly McGee
I agree. I know as a little kid I'd be glued to the screen if a cartoon was on regardless if it was good or not. I think also part of the dip in quality has to do with how now apps and streaming services favor quantity over quality, and also I feel like parents aren't quite as in control of what their kids watch now a days. Back when I was little (late 90s early 2000s) my family didn't have cable or internet, and because we lived on the opposite side of the region's TV broadcast tower, we couldn't even get the basic channels. So a lot of what we watched was VHS tapes, which my parents would either buy, they were given to us, or we rented. If my mom hated a show, she'd secretly throw the tape out, but if she thought a show was good she'd buy more of it. We were a bit older we got satellite TV. There were only a limited amount of shows though on the few kids channels, and they only played at certain times, and because of this I feel like networks had a bit more quality control (although there were definitely still really terrible shows, but if my mom got too annoyed by them she'd just tell us not to watch that one). Now a days on youtube kids and kids sections of streaming services its just a constant barrage of "click on this video!" "click on this video!" one after another after another. Companies know that little kids will click on them regardless of if they are garbage or not, so might as well cut down on costs by making them garbage. And because of this it's harder for parents to monitor what kids watch/ even if what they are watching is annoying as long as its not harmful it will be over in a few minutes anyway before their child finds something else. And I'm not trying to barrage the parents here; I don't have kids, but I often watch my toddler nephew and he has boundless energy plus is always getting into something that could hurt him, and many times the only way you can catch your breath is to pull up a terribly animated youtube video for a few minutes. My sister herself has stated many times that she absolutely hates Blippy, but sometimes she just needs her son to sit down in one place for a bit so that she can make dinner without him sneaking up and trying to pull hot pans off the stove.
Infinity Train is also a good example of this
These new cartoons upset me because the kids who are watching these shows deserve better. Young children aren’t out here watching stranger things or breaking bad. They’re going to watch fast pace brightly moving cartoons. More often than not their first role models outside of their parents are going to be a cartoon character. Think about how many adults you know that are so attached to batman or Pokémon because they grew up watching their Saturday morning cartoons. Good content breeds good content. When we give children smart writing and expressive animation we’re developing a very creative side to them. If this is the standard of current animation then I’m afraid of what the next generation will create. Instead of seeing cartoons made from genuine passion they’re growing up with cartoons made from corporate greed. If the foundation of your creativity is influenced by corporate greed than what kind of product can you expect. Think about how many of your own personal projects are influenced by things you’ve watch as a child. I don’t want kids to think these soulless cash grab projects are okay. It is not a matter of things being 3D or 2D it is a matter of passion and the state of current childrens programing lacks it severely.
Bro there’s still good cartoons today
@@Lightning-gg5iu yea there are good cartoons today. every generation is gonna have good cartoons but Most of what we considered "good cartoons" have serialized narratives that 10+ kids are going to be watching. That's around that age most kids start to observe story structure and stuff so it makes sense the quality of those shows are going to be better.
These rehashed shows that Scott's talking about are aimed at such a younger audience. These shows aim to tell self contained stories within their episodes which is way easier for younger kids to follow vs a season long narrative. So it's important that we give them strong visuals and good story telling since this is going to be their foundation of content before they start watching these more complex cartoons (i.e what we would consider good)
But even the good cartoons that are being produced today are suffering from network executives canceling the shows early or giving them shit airing times.
It's just unfortunate all around.
this is random and i never leave comments, but im so impressed with the clips youre able to pull up
the clip of the grandpa in the original rugrats talking about hippies really was so fitting
idk who your editor is or if its you but i just wanna say youre doing a great job the attention to detail is paying off
Thank you! My editor is me, I’ll give him a raise!
@@ScottCramer W editor. Never stop making your amazing vids! I’ve been watching for like 3 years, I believe it was the oddly specific music video. Keep it up, you got a fan forever!
I feel like if a cartoon was designed in 3D it looks fine in 3D. if it was designed for 2D, leave it in 2D. the
first show that comes to mind is Httyd Race to the edge- I was designed in 3D and it looks pretty good tbh.
and when you think about it- shows based on movies that are 3D and move to 2D are fine. that's because they stylize the 3D. if they try to stylize the 2D into 3D maybe it would work
I disagree. 2D characters can be made into 3D and have it look good. Look up the 3D Looney Tunes shorts that came out in the 2010s. They look amazing. But they had more money and effort put into them.
Wait is dragons race to the edge not 3d!?
@@joevictor53 I agree it can work but I think it has to be done by people who know what they're doing and actually care about making it look good. But that's just kinda how I see it
@@astrowolvez no it is 3D. I was saying how it looks good in 3D because it was SUPPOSED to be 3D from the beginning unlike Spongebob
@@joevictor53 that's what I was saying in the second part of my comment
I agree entirely with this video, definitely wish for more diversity in animation now, like the 90s-2000s. I have found some kids shows that are still really good, but it's sadly a lot more rare. And sometimes beautiful animation isn't needed for a great show, as long the heart and soul is still there and not just corporate garbage.
I know Butch Hartman is basically canceled, but he said a while ago something to the effect of "there have always been bad cartoons, but it does feel like the bad cartoons these days are REALLY bad", and I agree. At least the bad cartoons when he was growing up had the excuse of having a budget of like $1 and a bowl of a soup.
@@FrenkTheJoy problematic people can say agreeable things sometimes. This is one of those times
yeah, i typically always prefer 2d animation bc of the style and creativity they are able to put into it- but i try not to automatically judge stuff just based off of art style anymore bc animation in general isnt easy and sometimes great stories can come from unlikely places. some of my personal favorite 3d cartoons off the top of my head are things like 2012 tmnt and transformers prime. i think 3d animation can rly help in cartoons with heavy action, but even stuff like code lyoko managed to pull off both styles just bc i was so invested in the story as a kid. but changing a media from 2d to 3d and vice versa is where things can get weird if not done correctly. interesting video scott!
I have seen some really good 3D that was Dora the Explorer level story.
i am a 3D expert. the reason 3D shows may often look ugly even if they design the show specifically to be 3D , is that your brain is naturally more sensitive to 3D content. and therefore is more critical of its flaws. this in return creates a much stronger uncanny vally effect when your 3D content does not meet those standards . 3D simply needs so much more effort and care then 2D in order to look as good and be a true "wow" show . with 2D those standards and the need for more detail is not present which leaves the artist/studio more headroom to do things with less budget. 3D is in fact MORE difficult then 2D and more expansive.. if you want to make a good looking show. but studios often abuse the animation advantage of 3D to reduce the budget. but even if you cut 20% of the quality you will fail at making good 3D. now imagine reducing it to less budget then a 2D show would have.. JUST NO , ABSOLUTLY NOT. cheap 3D will never look good like that. then you add the fact that they directly rip off 2D designs with no effort or care for adapting them to a 3D environment. some designs just dont work in 3D due to the hard limitations on perspective and the harder limitations on framerate. finally we have lighting and contrast. in 2D your mind wont care much for lighting quality.. but 3D is ALL lighting. .. you cant have dull environments with simple shadows and no direct sun like 2D Does. good 3D requires high contrast or dynamic lighting that highlights the characters better . i could talk more but this comment is simply too long already
How do you decide how many spaces to put between each 2 sentences?
@@timmiller1 i have ADHD . i use long spaces to read faster
@@ali32bit42 *cough* *cough* proof *cough cough*
The Chuckie cancelled part absolutely SENT me 💀😂
one thing i absolutely love about old spongebob episodes (when they used animation cells) is the fact that the lineart had different colors that contrasted with the fill colors in a really nice way. like it just looks really cool. its something ive noticed and adopted into my art as a result.
i think the newer 2d spongebob episodes do it as well, but its a lot less noticable than in the older episodes due to the thinner more uniform line weight as well as the lineart colors themselves being more muted.
The only way I could justify it in my brain is saying that camp Coral takes place in an alternate universe then the normal SpongeBob. And I don't think that's too far off considering basically every franchise is putting some multiversal stuff into their movies or TV shows lately
It's basically an AU fanfiction hahaha
yeah i think it’s a separate storyline
I think Stephen would’ve not been against a well done spin-off, but Kamp Koral is such an obvious cash grab… Changing the storyline the creator was a part of is so rude. And just animation in general, back when it took longer to make and it was hand drawn, you felt more connected to it. Everything just seems so sterile and the storylines are lazy/repetitive. I think these new shows are trying to compete with stuff like Cocomelon and TH-cam. But TV shows are meant to take time and have more complete storylines! It’s a different medium. I mean, I watch anime still and see a lot of these problems there too lol
Viacom also sucks ass in general lol Cartoon Network has been pretty consistent with good cartoons (minus Teen Titans Go!) compared to Disney and Nick.
Steven universe owl house and amphibia rule
@@ashleyhowerton1080 >SU
I'm sorry but you've been groomed
@@ashleyhowerton1080 steven universe mid
BRUH KAMP KORAL IS A PERFECT SHOW ITS THE BEST SPINOFF
@@ashleyhowerton1080 No they suck
I promise you there are loads of new cartoons with amazing animation like The Owl House, Dead end, Amphibia, Bluey, Hilda and so many more they arent just making these shows for a money grab they are making shows to help with representation and learning for kids and im so glad my children are gonna grow up with these
You are perfecting your craft! The ad roll, the transitions between different characters of yourself, editing, and genuinely the content you put out where you don’t find one thing to review and run that into the ground. Plus a bunch of other things that make you my favorite commentator channel. Thank you!
4:09 that's my video 😳
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I’m 20 and I still watch cartoons on the occasion (but if I’m honest with myself the older I get the more anime I watch so I guess I never really graduated from cartoons) but none of these truly bother me as much as fairly odd parents. I just don’t understand how they could reasonably make such an unrealistic magical show into a real person show. I just don’t understand…
No one will ever have more smooth and creative sponsor segment segues (say that ten times fast) than Scott
Glad to see you're doing more collabs with Scott Kramer, his side comments really add a balanced point of view and his questions are always moving the commentary forward. Plus he's got a cool-guy toothpick
I also feel like there's a ton of amazing cartoons out there that have been coming out as well. Like are these cartoons bad and look bad? Yes. Should these shows be a judge of all cartoons as a whole of this era? No. Disney for example, they had 2 amazing cartoons that started airing in 2019-2020, owl house and amphibia, both of which are amazing shows that are well animated and tell very compelling stories with good diversity that kids need more of! Infinity train is another kids show that is amazing and worth watching that started airing in 2019! Cartoon network also has some really well animated shows currently or recently started airing, shows like Craig of the creek, Elliot from earth, we baby bears, etc. I think every era of cartoons has bad cartoons and as someone who loves animation, I've seen the bad in every era and I don't think this is the worst era of cartoons. I think most people just have nostalgia for old cartoons and don't want to think about how their childhood also had some really bad cartoons.
Ive been rewatching spongebob lately, I swear the shows first seasons only get funnier the older you get. Jimmy nutron is a close second though. even though the 3d animation is super weird looking (some may even call it ugly) I think the writing and overall creativity is what saved the show. Animation doesnt necassarily need to be great to have a great show.
Animator here, yeah the 3D change is a loop of cheaper to do > Makes it more common > out of touch execs see it's everywhere and assume it's popular > the cycle continues. 3D can be done very well but you need to budget well and stylize accordingly. A lot of these shows also get produced in tight turnarounds which might make it look cheaper than it was intended.
There are a lot of good cartoons out there today though, especially for kids! They might be a bit harder to find because there is just so much being produced nowadays that it just overwhelms the market, but genuinely I think there are some stellar shows being made by extremely passionate and talented people. I see a lot that's around and am happy kids of today get to grow up with it! The art is still here!
thank you for this! i’m hoping to work on cartoons myself someday and it’s always so difficult to look at comments on these kinds of videos because most people don’t keep up with the field and think that animation stopped being good whenever they grew up. there are always failures and successes in every era, it’s just harder to notice the wins now due to streaming
Also an animator and want to add to this thread, that one preschool show that is really great is Bluey!
Execs aren't "out of the loop", they know exactly what they're doing. It's an easy cash grab, little kids will watch anything.
YES Bluey is one the most visually-appealing cartoons out there rn
You know my daughter loves both of the Boss Baby shows and movies. That means I’ve watched everything all the way through at least 10 times at this point. But thankfully I actually think it’s a great and pretty funny show, and it will make you emotional at some points, especially the series finale of the first show. I know it sounds ridiculous but I’d love to see Scott review it.
I love the full character arc Scott takes here.
And hugely appreciate adding the theme song at end, hell yeah
Also in July 2021 there was a SpongeBob spinoff released called “The Patrick Star Show” and it was made off of another character.
it has to be so much harder to translate 2D into 3D than the other way around. shout out to the jimmy timmy power hour specials fr though.
Scott legit always posts when I start binging his content again and I couldn't be more thankful lmao
I forgot about his channel ngl
@@Kaiden-9226 same then a notif popped up and I was like oh
While there is a lot of low quality content out there now when it comes to cartoons. I would like to call out that there are still some absolute all stars that can go toe to toe with the best cartoons of the 90s and 00s. Craig of the Creek, Bluey, Amphibia, Hilda, The Amazing World of Gumball, and Gravity Falls (those last ones finished up a couple years ago), all of those shows are fantastic and should be checked out if you have any interest in animation. Ducktales is also one that has evolved into something that is really impressive, its changed its visual style, but kept a lot of the heart while adding to its characters.
YES!!! Bluey is amazing!!
Gumball is returning with a new series and a movie
Steven Universe, The Owl House, Over the Garden Wall,,,
Edit: She-Ra!
Dude I accidentally flipped through channels once and found bluey and it was surprisingly good lol.
Kipo and the Age of Wonderbeasts was also really great, and while I've personally never really been that into TMNT, I really enjoyed Rise of the TMNT.
“patrick by himself might be too much”
introducing the patrick star show
I think a lot of people forgot about the Patrick spin-off that literally everyone forgot about 3:20
Remember: If you’re only rebuttal is to say that Scott’s inexperience in making cartoons invalidates his thoughts then you should close TH-cam, get off the internet, and go to sleep. You have a big day at elementary school tomorrow.
For anyone who still uses Webkinz, have you SEEN the "new and improved" version of the game? It is HORRIFIC compared to how cute the original 2D animation is.
And for anyone who doesnt, still go look at it, it proves Scott's point again.
why is it the sims 4 graphics but worse :^(
They animate them differently now too which is probably why there's more 3d stuff because it's easier to make them move. Before they would animate each thing by hand, or rather make a story board like an animatic and then ship it off to an overseas sweatshop where they would animate it one frame at a time. Now a really popular thing is to animate with rigging. It's like if you had character models for each segment of the body for like hands and arms and then you would have a base that you programmed to move a certain way, then you would plug in all those separate limbs to make it look like the character. This can make the cartoon look soulless in my opinion, but it can also be done very well like the Cuphead show for instance was done with rigging and it does not look bad! I am not a professional this is just the knowledge I've accumulated from around the internet and I don't know where I got it all from lol
The quote was actually that he didn’t like the idea of spinoffs because he just wanted nickelodeon to continue doing SpongeBob but I’m one of 11 viewers so I don’t know maybe you’ll get more comments about this but you do great work
He thought that spin-offs would not work with SpongeBob. Plus he knew about Kamp Koral before he passed away
They did this Arthur but kept it 2D instead of 3D (thankfully I guess). They changed from the orginal style to flash animation in the later seasons and it just looks so weird. All the characters move so stiffly and awkwardly, literally look flats. That flash animation style just doesn't look good and feels so...off and lazy, if that makes sense.
I think that also was the case with newer TFOP episodes, at some time, I think 1-2 season before the show ended the animation looked so weird compared to the older seasons.
But I've stopped watching the show around the time Sparky (the dog) was added so I'm not exactly sure when they switched to Flash xD
Get woke, go broke.
I think the difference between good and bad animated children’s cartoons now a days is how authentic they really are. Some shows are clearly continuing the same core messages and themes while slowly adapting to technological advancements in animation. While other shows are clear cash grabs with no heart behind them. If you want to look at quality children’s entertainment now I think 2D shows like big city greens, Hilda, the owl house (rip), miraculous ladybug (to a degree) and more are trying to tell creative and new stories that fascinate children and inspire adults!
This.
The best animated shows are ones with actual heart behind them.
Last cartoons I watched and thoroughly enjoyed as an adult we're Gravity Falls and Star vs the Forces of Evil. Both seem to have held onto that old school feel, and the stories are intense and heartfelt. If I ever had kids, I'd show those to them.
Please tell me you have watched Amphibia and The Owl House if you have not then please do. I think you would like them.
@@Nella_nova I have not. But I'll definitely check them out. ✌️
Oh! I also just remembered We Bare Bears. That show has no right to be so adorable. 💜
star vs the forces of evil sucks bad imo. Just boring relationship drama
I get that this video is just to goof on some bad shows, but I would like to tell people about some really good and (mostly) fun cartoons.
• Infinity train
You follow a new main character every season, while they try and solve their problems on an interdimensional train.
• Over the garden wall
Two brothers end up in a forest called the Unknown and try to find a way back home.
• The owl house
Luz ends up in a place called the demon realm and learns how to become a witch.
• Amphibia
Anne and her two friends end up in a world inhabited by amphibians. It might be difficult to get started with this one, but I promise you it's all worth it.
• DuckTales
An amazing reboot of the original show
Of course there are many more amazing shows, but these are some of my favorites. If you have any other cartoons, please tell me. I'm always looking for new shows to watch. Also, I get that the video was about 3D animated shows and these are all 2D, but I just wanted to take this opportunity to recommend some amazing shows.
I'm glad you came around on the Spongebob Animation. I don't know anything about how good the shows content is, but I always thought the 3D animation and visuals were nice, They do look genuinely animated with some artistic intent. The Rugrats does have that coldness of template animations though, like there's not much actual work put into it, just rendered models in a 3D environment.
I think the main reason we feel so upset is the generation before didn't have their cartoons remade to this extent. The shows we grew up with never technically ended, just recycled it a way that is trying to appeal to a new audience.
"Subjectively, of course"
You know what? No! You are totally right without question. These new shows are garbage and they need to stop!
Animation peaked with Scooby Doo Zombie Island and X-Men Evolution and no one can convince me otherwise
The reason the animation quality has dropped is likely because nobody watches television anymore so they had to cut some corners to save money.
True!! I mean it’s all streaming these days
Grandpa is supposta be from an era 30 years later per the age of the show. But honestly they could have still made him a disgruntled war vet.
That transition to the ad may be the smoothest I’ve ever seen. Almost as smooth and beautiful as 90s & early 2000s cartoons and animation.
It’s okay to cry about it, my man. We had the best cartoons.
Nickelodeon I feel like went from being extremely creative to just recycling shows from that time
ok yes i fucking love the variety available for western animation. i will always be a sucker for 2D animation because you can do so much with it. think of adventure time, steven universe, gravity falls, rick and morty, etc. imagine how odd it would look in 3D; it’s too “clean.”
agreed
When the world needed him most, he returned.
when the world needed him most, he returned
As someone who's done 2d animation and 3d animation, I know that once you model the characters and sets for a 3d animation and you get the lighting perfect it becomes a little easier to animate. If they put more effort into the models I would have no problem with that but if they don't, 2d animation will clearly take more time and effort to make. Therefore the quality would be better in 2d animations because the animators can't become lazy when animating without making something completely unwatchable.
The thing about Rugrats is…it’s always been ugly. It’s ugly in 3D, it’s ugly in 2D. And anyone who says differently has their nostalgia filter on, because that’s by design. The character designer said he wanted the characters to be strange instead of cute.
It's painfully obivous that none of the terminally online twitter users actually even clicked on this video before they got mad at it 💀
Jellystone is good example of a remade cartoon that is pretty good, I really like it :) It's not 3d tho (thankfully) but almost every character has a different design style and I think that's pretty cool
That grandpa guy in Rugrats didn't even really match the voice acting. It felt like the admittedly pretty decent voice acting sounds like it's coming from speakers in the same room as the character, rather than actually being the voice of the character himself
What's the difference between a mechanic and an animated show?
One tunes cars while the other cartoons
I've never watched too much 3D animation, mostly just miraculous. And hey, that show is a giant pile of writing Dumpsterfires but at least it (mostly) looks really really good, especially the specials, and the movie's gonna go CRAZY hard with the artstyle
I know literally everyone else in the comments is adding to this but I also had a few shows to recommend, kind of delving into the stuff you brought up:
In terms of 2D, The owl house, Amphibia, Hilda, Gravity Falls, Craig of the Creek, Mao Mao, The Ghost and Molly Mcgee, Kipo, and Centaurworld are all very stellar shows
For 3D, although a bit more limited, the dragon prince, Miraculous, and Jurassic World Camp Cretaceous I find to be pretty decent watches.
And for reboots, Ducktales, Animaniacs, Rise of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, and She ra do their original works justice by a long shot
I’ve also heard that Arcane, Bluey, Paranormal Park, Monkey Kid, and Wander over Yander are good watches too.
Sorry for the long comment, but I really adore some of the cartoons of this generation!! I get a handful of people think animation has gone completely downhill, but frankly, I think this generation has some of the best storytelling in cartoons, well, ever! To anyone reading this, if you’ve got nothing else to do, maybe give some of these a shot :D
Honestly 2d animation is much better, there’s just something about taking a character designed to be 2d and making them 3d that looks wrong, but then I also see things animated in 3d that just look terrible even if the characters were designed to be 3d. but that’s my opinion of course. I also agree that taking an animated show and making it live action almost never works. You go from a medium that allows you to do anything and make it look real in the context of the world, now contrast that with live action and the second a character needs to fly or lift something extremely heavy you need to go to cgi, or wires, or use props and they often feel flat and hollow despite being live action. obviously it’s possible to make a good live action remake but I don’t think you can capture everything, some stories just have too many things that are impossible to make look good and something has to be cut, but nobody wants to plan a live action show with the mindset that it will be lacking elements compared to the original.
I love how he “vehemently opposes” it in the most nonchalant way
The bigger sin of Rugrats is downgrading Stu from a crazy inventor to just a gamer
wow idk how i still know all the words to the "all grown up" theme song but i fully jammed out at the end of this video. thank you
I've seen many videos talking about kamp koral, and they always talk about the looks or the general feel of the first episode. I however, have never seen a video talking about how the show pushes genuinely harmful lessions onto kids. the 2nd episode says that strangers are trustworthy and have candy that makes you feel good and are just generally super cool. the 3rd episode incorporates full on , realistic trucks as playthings that should be climbed over and stab. you can watch the show for yourself if you want, it's super blatant.
Back in the Barnyard is an example of good 3D animation
As for Grandpa on the Rugrats, it’s technically a reboot, so they’re essentially rewriting his origin story. In the 90’s it made sense to make him a war vet, but in 2020 (or whenever the reboot started) they decided to make him more of an anti-Vietnam protester/hippie.
As for the art style, I don’t really pay much attention since I’m not the demo for that show. I’m just glad my niece and nephew can grow up with the Rugrats like I did.
This professional competitive ripsticker is a fairly competent TH-cam content creator...
You're right, the new Blue's Clues is sick. My son loves it.
Ooof, oh my sweet summer Scott. Fierce is what my high school hallway smelled like. I’m fairly certain there’s still a bottle in My parents bathroom. Graduated 08’ for year reference.
Big City Greens has a cute animation style!
And the owl house and amphibia!
@@nickl2854 Yes!! Amphibia is so cute!
Big City Greens honestly feels more like the Simpsons than modern Simpsons does
Also Mao Mao Heroes of Pure Heart, Rise of the TMNT, DC Superhero Girls ...theres a lot.of good animated series that get less focus than the big ones right now
I think the Grandpa Lou change is a lot more to do with time passing. It's been 30 years since the original show started. The parents are millennials now, so the generation their parents are from has changed as well.
It's been like 6 months since I watched, but I actually kind of liked what I saw of the new show, animation aside. They left in the subplots about the parents, for one thing, and they can be more forward with some of the issues like Chuckie and his dad having anxiety. I was all set to hate it, too, because I didn't like All Grown Up, and Rugrats is one of the shows that was a huge part of my childhood. Only show I know of with a Passover special (not counting Shalom Sesame), and a Channukah special that felt like it was made for me instead of to educate my peers about me. Actually one of very few cartoons I watched as a kid.
Edit: I say I didn't like All Grown Up--I think I may have enjoyed it as a kid, but didn't watch regularly enough to have a solid opinion not heavily influenced by my parents. I don't remember hating it last time I watched it, but I think I didn't like some of what I saw and there were a few things that really put me off, even if they might have seemed small to others.
Dual commentary Scott is back!!
I’d love to see you react to/talk about the SpongeBob Theories Alex bale makes the videos!
it brings me great comfort that blue's clues is holding up
growing up, i was right in the transitional phase between some really good shows (regular show, adventure time, amazing world of gumball, ect;) into the ones you're talking about and honestly? i did get bored. even when i was 8 or 9 i would try to watch new cartoon network shows and i hated them. they felt boring and cookie-cutter to me.
It's one thing to do remakes to squeeze money out of adults. It's another to not provide kids with original, stimulating content just because it follows the guide a studio follows to maximize profit. Kids need to see originality for their growth
Don't ask questions just consume product and get excited for next product
The new Rugrats literally looks like the PlayStation 1 Rugrats Studio Tour game from 1999 😫 On a positive note, I don’t know what it is about your channel but I don’t laugh this hard on other channels. I’ll laugh quite a bit but never these huge belly laughs all throughout. Even the All Grown Up theme song at the end did it to me. Your humor style hits hard. You rock Scott.
I love the part of this video about Grandpa Lou's transformation. The change is bizarre to those who used to watch Rug Rats... but it sort of makes sense. I would watch Rug Rats in late 90s early 00s, and I think a lot of ~5year olds at that time had or knew of a grandpa that was a "grumpy old war vet who said crazy sh*t". It was relatable. Now people my parents age are becoming grandparents... and they look like the new Grandpa Lou... new Grandpa Lou might be actually be "relatable" for a current 5 year old. New Rug Rats was made for a new generation of kids with soft spoken, tie dye wearing, weed smoking grandparents.