A sport coupe with the 6M transmission would be a better car for this test. I have one and had Hotchkis sway bars installed front and rear with a dramatic improvement in handling.
0:15 When you said "forty-eight thousand-pound Audi", I first thought "That is one heavy car". Then, I later realized that you're talking about price. Lol.
Lmfao I was like I think u mean 48 hundred pound but then I was like that still seems heavy. Lool I didn’t realize he meant money till I came to the comments to see people trolling his mistake... I’m dumb
Happy TTRS owner here! I'm always surprised by how easily I can toss the rear end out, but as it's AWD, does snap back quite abruptly. Still an amazing and versatile car, especially on the street, I would pick it over the other two any day.
I dont understand why only 2 of the 3 are convertibles with a weaker chassis. And the 370Z is the automatic version?? A cayeman s and 370Z coupe nismo would be much more correct. You people always say convertibles fave more flex ... I dont understand how you can choose this lineup.
Welp the z was a auto convertible and if you wanted to match the price of the other two cars you could probably get a nismo in there, idk why they'd choose that lineup either...
bibibi mimimi...shut the fuck up. When you're doing a car shootout like this in Britain, you do it with cars that are available to you on the same day, preferably when it's not raining. You can have everything set up ideally in your dreams, but not in the real world.
@@psycheevolved1428 it is pure understeer dressed in a more stylish body than an RS3. It is not a sports car. The Z on the other hand is about handling
3 cars with 3 different gearboxes lmao. TT had a manual Boxter had a PDK 370Z had a torque converter auto Doing Gymkhana and track-days with an automatic gearbox... :-P
So basically its not showing us which car is better and faster but which driver sucks more? If you wanted a nice comparison maybe you should have done it differently. The way it is, its a show and a not comparisson.
Having owned both the 370Z and the Audi, the Audi is noticeably quicker but the 370Z steering is much more precise. However on the whole I prefer the Audi.
Unless VW drops the terrible anti-sport anti-oversteer FWD biased Haldex AWD system from their Golf platform-based small cars, I'd advise against any sporty Audi model based on this platform.
I think Audi TT RS cabriolet vs Porsche Boxster S vs Nissan 370Z or Audi TT RS vs Porsche Cayman S vs Nissan 370Z would be more fair since convertibles have weaker bodies (I know this was for fun).
Yeah I could hear he didn't know what the hell he was doing in that Z. You can't run those with low Rs!!!! You have to push them up in the high6s or into 7 to get the best action out of the car especially around corners and I could hear he was being lazy with the engine and DEFINITELY was quirky with his shifting of it which he admitted in one of the contests. As an owner of the Z and someone who economically updated it I can tell you I could have given those guy a real run for their money on the drifting and the flying run race. Notice as well they did not do a race from a dead stop, VERY SUSPICIOUS as the Z is really quick off the line. This was more about how those guys drive than the cars they did. JUST SAYIN!
Disagree with the low revs, my Z has been dyno'd and the lbs/ft figure is pretty linear through the rev range. This is for the HR that redlines at 7.5k
@@nicholascrichton3394 mine was set up with dual cold ram air, stage 2 clutch, lightweight flywheel and headers with a dual catback exhaust. It was better performing in the higher rpm ranges around cornering especially , I don't know how you had yours set up. Love those cars, they are so much fun at the track
The 370z Nismo should've been brought in this line up not the regular convertible version; however, even the regular convertible version still beats the Porsche and Audi. Nissan 370z Wins 👍
More like your opinion wins. I've driven the Nissan back then and now the Porsche Cayman (basically a none convertible boxster), and the Porsche feels much more like a quality product than the Nissan
Down-voted because of the inexplicable choice of a non-Nismo Z. Could've used a Nismo and STILL been cheaper (and more reliable) than the other cars. If the convertible Z was still this competitive, imagine a Nismo: lighter, more powerful, stiffer, more aerodynamic, bigger tires, better suspension, bigger brakes, Ricaro-seated (wouldn't impact performance much, but surely the driver would've had good things to say), yet still less expensive than the others. No contest.
but much better; top gear = stupid Englishisms, a bit of pointless shock n awe spiel and then wanking over a man in a Spacesuit and maybe a 50 year old Bentley at the end
I bought a 2019 Nissan 370z sport coupe with the 6 speed manual transmission new and have done a few moderately priced modifications. I installed stiffer anti-roll bars, a more efficient cold-air intake, a free flowing exhaust and a dynamometer tune. The car handles significantly better than stock and has gained about 55 peak crankshaft horsepower. All of this was done for less than $4k and my car has the performance abilities of a Porsche 911 Carrera S. The car also turns heads and gets complimentary comments from people who see it, as it is a black car that has seen multiple stages of polishing and had a double ceramic coating put on it. All of this has been done for a total car cost of under $40k.
In such expensive company it would have been much more appropriate to take a manual transmission Nismo. a automatic convertible Z is the least appreciate choice straddled with the extra weight. Even a base with the manual would have been better But of course that would have magnified the price difference to absurdity.
and in the real world where it rains somewhat, the Audi is still accelerating into the 4 wheel drive horizon, while the Porsche and Nissan are pulled out a ditch. P.S I am a Porsche fan BTW
I like the Audi tt its more versatile with its hatchback n seats folded down .and its aluminium so no rusting. The ttrs is so fast your gonna get points so i would go for a tts a little slower but still quick.
All three cars are nice. But what does that TBT abbreviation stand for and they put it on all their video titles? Has anyone figured it out after all these years?
Down-voted because of the inexplicable choice of a non-Nismo Z. Could've used a Nismo and STILL been cheaper (and more reliable) than the other cars. If the convertible Z was still this competitive, imagine a Nismo: lighter, more powerful, stiffer, more aerodynamic, bigger tires, better suspension, bigger brakes, Ricaro-seated (wouldn't impact performance much, but surely the driver would've had good things to say), yet still less expensive than the others. No contest.
Audi the easiest to live with, super cruiser on motorways when needed and brilliant enough for country roads, the Porsche and nissan are extremely loud for long journeys
I dont understand why they wont allow the nissan driver to get more than one try on anything, the drift bit was especially annoying, obviously the porsche drivers review was bias he was talking shit about his drifting which was definitely better than the porsche.
I dont get it. Why there is 1 coupe and 2 convertibles. And they also gave the Nissan the automatic gearbox. It was so down on price and they picked the 2 worst options to make it even slower. It should had been an cayman manual and a nissan coupe manual vs that tts coupe manual
I think if anyone believes that Ben is a bad driver they should take a look at his career. Top Gear didn't pick him to hammer supercars around a rough track for nothing. He's in the heaviest car which is, unlike the other two, mated to an auto box - not a manual or DCT. Would Fifth Gear mind if an ex Top Gear member were to look outclassed on what the masses considered an outclassed show?
Did anyone happen to notice just how far off he was when describing the curb weight of the cars at the beginning of the video? I did not quite believe my ears when I heard the presenter say a 48,000 pound Audi TTRS, a 43,000 pound Porsche Boxster, and a 36,000 pound Nissan 370Z. The weird thing is that it got past the producers of the show. I do enjoy the show, but I have never heard a mistake like that from them. I would have expected that from the Top Gear hosts.
go under the German cars and see how much leaks you'll find :) also make sure the light bulb works on check engine light, could be burnt from staying on :)
Not to mention why the $%@# is this guy using a convertible Z? The convertibles are loads slower than the hard top based on aerodynamics alone, not to mention the weight.
Audi TT....why? because you can get it in AWD/Quattro....What's the point of buying an expensive sports car you can't drive in the winter?....All wheel drive ALWAYS wins....and the audi looks better....the others look uglier than sin.
This is when motering shows were good Tiff Nedel was a proper ex racing driver this was by far much better then TopGear The TT was the better looking car but the Porsche came out on top
So you guys use a hard top Audi TT RS, against a heavier 370z convertible...why not the 370z Nismo hardtop,?? RS against Nismo would be a fair comparison.
Audi wouldn't do as good if it was convertible as well. It would be heavier and slower. I'm a big Porsche fan and glad it won but second place could be Nissans
nissan wasnt the best 370z that is not fair but was audi tt rs and porche boxter s and nissan wasnt nismo version the last from 370z garbage show like always
An automatic convertible Z every one knows thats not going to work..... A manual nismo Z would be much more fair
Fair? Going slower shifting manually is now fair? Are you from US or sth?
It’s crap
@John Gordon But they are crap and boring
A sport coupe with the 6M transmission would be a better car for this test. I have one and had Hotchkis sway bars installed front and rear with a dramatic improvement in handling.
370Z automatic is substantially faster than the manual.
0:15 When you said "forty-eight thousand-pound Audi", I first thought "That is one heavy car". Then, I later realized that you're talking about price. Lol.
I started to think the same thing
Lool frrrrr
Lmfao I was like I think u mean 48 hundred pound but then I was like that still seems heavy. Lool I didn’t realize he meant money till I came to the comments to see people trolling his mistake... I’m dumb
Ahhahhahahahahahhahah
Happy TTRS owner here! I'm always surprised by how easily I can toss the rear end out, but as it's AWD, does snap back quite abruptly. Still an amazing and versatile car, especially on the street, I would pick it over the other two any day.
Got a TTS, amazing driver focused cars
How’s the steering? I’ve heard it’s vague compared to a Porsche.
I dont understand why only 2 of the 3 are convertibles with a weaker chassis. And the 370Z is the automatic version?? A cayeman s and 370Z coupe nismo would be much more correct. You people always say convertibles fave more flex ... I dont understand how you can choose this lineup.
EXACTLY! And they didn't even mention it at all!
So for you the cayman does not bare any resemblance to the boxster...hmmmm... Not the brightest of people then...
Welp the z was a auto convertible and if you wanted to match the price of the other two cars you could probably get a nismo in there, idk why they'd choose that lineup either...
Caymans faster than a boxster. The cayman would absolutely smash the other cars
So he uses a convertible Z with traction control on and an automatic?! This was rigged to make the Z fail. Also how about comparing prices?
Typical Europeans hating on Japanese quality.
Not sure what most of this testing proved.
4.5 seconds my asshole.
porsche was automatic also
bibibi mimimi...shut the fuck up. When you're doing a car shootout like this in Britain, you do it with cars that are available to you on the same day, preferably when it's not raining. You can have everything set up ideally in your dreams, but not in the real world.
how could you compare a audi tt rs to a convertible z. This was aweful
Totally agree
Z in general, nowhere near the level car that the TTRS is
@@psycheevolved1428 it is pure understeer dressed in a more stylish body than an RS3. It is not a sports car. The Z on the other hand is about handling
What about the boxter? The boxter has less horsepower than both of them lmao
3 cars with 3 different gearboxes lmao.
TT had a manual
Boxter had a PDK
370Z had a torque converter auto
Doing Gymkhana and track-days with an automatic gearbox... :-P
So basically its not showing us which car is better and faster but which driver sucks more? If you wanted a nice comparison maybe you should have done it differently. The way it is, its a show and a not comparisson.
I agree this is not a fair test.
Bora Markovic This is an entertainment show, not a review magazine.
Yes!
Bora Markovic yeah
low drive ability
damn, Jason pulled off some sick drifts in that Porsche
Having owned both the 370Z and the Audi, the Audi is noticeably quicker but the 370Z steering is much more precise. However on the whole I prefer the Audi.
Each to their own :-)
Unless VW drops the terrible anti-sport anti-oversteer FWD biased Haldex AWD system from their Golf platform-based small cars, I'd advise against any sporty Audi model based on this platform.
some how I like Z .. I don't care wich one is faster
I like the 370z nismo
Me to😃
You're pretty much guaranteed to have it in the shop less..........and come out w/lower repair bills.
@@SanobumLD50 Yes, sir.......you are correct. Even the Nismo version is less expensive.
The Z aged well, although it’s pretty slow by today’s standards.
I think Audi TT RS cabriolet vs Porsche Boxster S vs Nissan 370Z or Audi TT RS vs Porsche Cayman S vs Nissan 370Z would be more fair since convertibles have weaker bodies (I know this was for fun).
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Yeah I could hear he didn't know what the hell he was doing in that Z. You can't run those with low Rs!!!! You have to push them up in the high6s or into 7 to get the best action out of the car especially around corners and I could hear he was being lazy with the engine and DEFINITELY was quirky with his shifting of it which he admitted in one of the contests. As an owner of the Z and someone who economically updated it I can tell you I could have given those guy a real run for their money on the drifting and the flying run race. Notice as well they did not do a race from a dead stop, VERY SUSPICIOUS as the Z is really quick off the line. This was more about how those guys drive than the cars they did. JUST SAYIN!
Disagree with the low revs, my Z has been dyno'd and the lbs/ft figure is pretty linear through the rev range. This is for the HR that redlines at 7.5k
Agree with the rest of what you said 👍🏻
Not to mention they brought in a roadster which is the heaviest version of the 370Z.
@@GuyX2013 very good point!
@@nicholascrichton3394 mine was set up with dual cold ram air, stage 2 clutch, lightweight flywheel and headers with a dual catback exhaust.
It was better performing in the higher rpm ranges around cornering especially , I don't know how you had yours set up. Love those cars, they are so much fun at the track
The 370z Nismo should've been brought in this line up not the regular convertible version; however, even the regular convertible version still beats the Porsche and Audi. Nissan 370z Wins 👍
👍
No, the Porsche won :P
More like your opinion wins. I've driven the Nissan back then and now the Porsche Cayman (basically a none convertible boxster), and the Porsche feels much more like a quality product than the Nissan
Bo Al-sharef this was like 6 years ago...
Aaaaaand my choice .... the TTRS 🙂
However, I think the Nissan has the most glorious engine sound of all 3. So one win goes to Ben :)
LOL, you gotta be kidding. It's the boxer 6 of Porsche has the best engine note. Checking your hearing !!!
You need to hear that 5 Cylinder audi in real life it is amazing
Alex Chavez I agree the Audi sounds nicer too... the porsche was not as nice as the 911, the 370z is pretty good too
Seems like a really nice show... geniune car lovers... great energy...!!!
It’s an old show, ex racing drivers, Tiff Needel, the older guy was in Top Gear many years ago too.
One of them was also the stig
370Z all day every day
fuck yeah, fuck the german pos
Japanese cars are reliable, fast, fun and cost less than German pos
FUK YAAAAAH IS DA Z SHET IS DA Z SHET
Down-voted because of the inexplicable choice of a non-Nismo Z. Could've used a Nismo and STILL been cheaper (and more reliable) than the other cars.
If the convertible Z was still this competitive, imagine a Nismo: lighter, more powerful, stiffer, more aerodynamic, bigger tires, better suspension, bigger brakes, Ricaro-seated (wouldn't impact performance much, but surely the driver would've had good things to say), yet still less expensive than the others.
No contest.
what year Boxster is that
2010, so it’s a 987.2
The TT-RS 5cylinder reminds me of a gallardo revving to 6k (TT-RS redline)
Ttrs redline is not 6k. Its 6800
I'd still have the 370Z
So two convertibles vs a hard top? We can see this is already bias
In Australia Cayman s is $90000 aud more , than a Base model 370z .
370z all day. It just looks stunning.
Looks like a mutated beatle
looks like me and you are related
As soon as it showed it was a convertible and automatic Z, I lost interest.
This is like an awkward top gear...
Except Tiff is better than the Stig, er, Collins.
+Caleb Sålstrom i thougt myself the exact same thing just before seing your comment.
but much better; top gear = stupid Englishisms, a bit of pointless shock n awe spiel and then wanking over a man in a Spacesuit and maybe a 50 year old Bentley at the end
That is very true
So true😂
I bought a 2019 Nissan 370z sport coupe with the 6 speed manual transmission new and have done a few moderately priced modifications. I installed stiffer anti-roll bars, a more efficient cold-air intake, a free flowing exhaust and a dynamometer tune. The car handles significantly better than stock and has gained about 55 peak crankshaft horsepower. All of this was done for less than $4k and my car has the performance abilities of a Porsche 911 Carrera S. The car also turns heads and gets complimentary comments from people who see it, as it is a black car that has seen multiple stages of polishing and had a double ceramic coating put on it.
All of this has been done for a total car cost of under $40k.
as an owner of the tt who now has a boxster, the Porsche feels more solid, grounded and simply exciting to me.But the TT was more comfortable.?
The Porsche is a Porsche the name says it all
In such expensive company it would have been much more appropriate to take a manual transmission Nismo. a automatic convertible Z is the least appreciate choice straddled with the extra weight. Even a base with the manual would have been better But of course that would have magnified the price difference to absurdity.
Yeah, figured the Box would get it. Wonderful, wonderful cars those Box’s are! And cheap. So buy one and you too will be a believer in the Box.
Porsche...Audi...? No way gimme the Datsun!
+Eric Gruntfuttock nissan tard
+GTR R35 NISMO TOP ! Hahaha idiot
😂😂😂😂
Says it all really !
Why are we comparing roadsters to a coupe? Should be a Cayman and a hard top 370.
The Z is tens of thousands cheaper and also slightly heavier/less powerful so I think it makes sense it's slightly behind these 2.
Actually it's only a thousand maybe 2 cheaper so it's nowhere near tens of thousands cheaper
In Canada one is 35k, the other two are over 60
Wow that's shocking! Here in the UK they are very similar in price
three convertibles or three normal cars...not mixed. thats not fair
Not sure why they didn't get the fixed top 370 Nismo, it seems they've got the top end version of all the other cars... strange comparison.
All this car testing footage really got in the way of the ads.
and in the real world where it rains somewhat, the Audi is still accelerating into the 4 wheel drive horizon, while the Porsche and Nissan are pulled out a ditch. P.S I am a Porsche fan BTW
I'm going Nissan before the video is finished!!!
I like the Audi tt its more versatile with its hatchback n seats folded down .and its aluminium so no rusting. The ttrs is so fast your gonna get points so i would go for a tts a little slower but still quick.
that means weaker buddy
370z is a hatchback dingus
Is that the stig/Ben collins?
All three cars are nice.
But what does that TBT abbreviation stand for and they put it on all their video titles? Has anyone figured it out after all these years?
TBT stands for ‘throw back to’ therefore referring to this being an older video
how come they are using the old model 987 not the 981 which has been out since 2012
How much bhp a car has means absolutely nothing when compared to how it handles and feels to drive, great video!!
Down-voted because of the inexplicable choice of a non-Nismo Z. Could've used a Nismo and STILL been cheaper (and more reliable) than the other cars.
If the convertible Z was still this competitive, imagine a Nismo: lighter, more powerful, stiffer, more aerodynamic, bigger tires, better suspension, bigger brakes, Ricaro-seated (wouldn't impact performance much, but surely the driver would've had good things to say), yet still less expensive than the others.
No contest.
Audi the easiest to live with, super cruiser on motorways when needed and brilliant enough for country roads, the Porsche and nissan are extremely loud for long journeys
Silence suits Ben Collins more than the alternative.
We should make a show with him in it. But he doesn't say anything. Think it might work.
Porsche all the way
Yep.
Alex Taylor never
I have Porsche Boxter S 2007 best car i ever had
Michael svensson i have the RS60. Best car I have ever had as well.
Porsche and Audi*
They are having so much fun this is awesome
Ben can drive for shit! Guy in the Audi seemed like the best technical driver.
Dude in the Audi is an ex race and rally car driver. Tiff Needell.
I dont understand why they wont allow the nissan driver to get more than one try on anything, the drift bit was especially annoying, obviously the porsche drivers review was bias he was talking shit about his drifting which was definitely better than the porsche.
I dont get it. Why there is 1 coupe and 2 convertibles. And they also gave the Nissan the automatic gearbox. It was so down on price and they picked the 2 worst options to make it even slower. It should had been an cayman manual and a nissan coupe manual vs that tts coupe manual
370z top ! ...2. tt a this porsche never !!! mega uuuugllyyy !
Boxster S owner here grinning from ear to ear. Was there ever any doubt?
just noticed the z is a touring model, so it has a convertible top.
2:37 "sweet as custard" - thanks Mr P! - PHer
I think if anyone believes that Ben is a bad driver they should take a look at his career. Top Gear didn't pick him to hammer supercars around a rough track for nothing.
He's in the heaviest car which is, unlike the other two, mated to an auto box - not a manual or DCT. Would Fifth Gear mind if an ex Top Gear member were to look outclassed on what the masses considered an outclassed show?
It’s Ben Collins the OG stig!
There is "No Substitue"
370 looks the best. fact you aint driving like this on uk roads tells me what car id have.
Of course TT 😻
I don't know does anyone knows it or not but the guy who came out last is the top gear's sting.
One hardtop. Nuff said.
audi sounds great 4:51
5 ads served in under 10 mins.. awful youtube.. theres advertising then theres ruining content WTF
Did anyone happen to notice just how far off he was when describing the curb weight of the cars at the beginning of the video? I did not quite believe my ears when I heard the presenter say a 48,000 pound Audi TTRS, a 43,000 pound Porsche Boxster, and a 36,000 pound Nissan 370Z. The weird thing is that it got past the producers of the show. I do enjoy the show, but I have never heard a mistake like that from them. I would have expected that from the Top Gear hosts.
Eric C this is the UK, it was currency they were talking about, not weight. They were saying how much they cost in British Pound
Thank you for the clarification.
Makes me happier on my purchase of a TT
@Cantdothis212 Such a Bullshit😂
@Cantdothis212 Cars are a matter of taste! Let People Drive what they want, no matter what sex or age they are.
No es justo el del 370Z no sabe conducir :c
El del 370 es el que era el stig pedazo de imbecil.
Had a 370Z before, and have a Boxster GTS now. I'll take the Porsche any day.
Yes I agree
go under the German cars and see how much leaks you'll find :) also make sure the light bulb works on check engine light, could be burnt from staying on :)
Never thought I'd see this team so far down the pecking order
Its to bad they didnt have any good drivers. I'd like to see the showdown with actual racecar drivers.
Not to mention why the $%@# is this guy using a convertible Z? The convertibles are loads slower than the hard top based on aerodynamics alone, not to mention the weight.
These guys are way to competent at driving for this to be entertaining.
They really used an Automatic, non-nismo, convertible 370 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️ smh
Audi TT....why? because you can get it in AWD/Quattro....What's the point of buying an expensive sports car you can't drive in the winter?....All wheel drive ALWAYS wins....and the audi looks better....the others look uglier than sin.
This is when motering shows were good Tiff Nedel was a proper ex racing driver this was by far much better then TopGear The TT was the better looking car but the Porsche came out on top
Jason plato, Tiff Needell and.... Some guy on the left....
If the Z HAD A PROPER DRIVER..COULD OF WON OR AT LEAST 2ND....PLACE.
It’s not the driver. It’s the fact they used an automatic, convertible Z
I dont know if Im the only one, but in 6 Minutes I had 4 adverts...
So you guys use a hard top Audi TT RS, against a heavier 370z convertible...why not the 370z Nismo hardtop,?? RS against Nismo would be a fair comparison.
Why the fuck would you ever take the roadster 370z to do battle with....
Fifth Gear lol in this you said smoke doesnt mean anything.. in actually drifting ttournaments smoke scores points
Not fair to Nissan. Try the test with a manual Coupe and we'll talk again.
so the 370z has less hp and above that you choose the way heavier open top? why did you killed it?
I'd never buy a second hand car from Tiff lol
Ttrs sounds good but it's understeer city, 370Z never really liked that car that much, so I guess I'll take the Porsche
I can't believe I'm saying this but the Porsche seems to be the best value for money here.
Oh my Budda Sting with you Stiff , nice safe safe 👍
Audi wouldn't do as good if it was convertible as well. It would be heavier and slower. I'm a big Porsche fan and glad it won but second place could be Nissans
370 won round two it was human error he left traction control on
first of all the Porsche and Nissan are convertibles so they are much heavier than a couple model. so it's not fair at all
This is stupid. Driving skill should have nothing to do with it. It should be exactly same for all 3 cars. Scientific like.
The Boxster S was always going to win.
This video is about the skills of drivers nothing to do with Cars specs.
If you can’t drift a 370z then no one can help you 😂🤦🏻♂️
nissan wasnt the best 370z that is not fair but was audi tt rs and porche boxter s and nissan wasnt nismo version the last from 370z garbage show like always
it's the Stig!
That's really a shame you couldn't get a Cayman S. Bet you tried, though.
No one can match technology used in audi even Ferrari
You should have included the new Renault Alpine in that match as it is better then the Nissan.
In 2010?
@@s559tja More like 2014 but the Alpine was not ready. Lets redo this test then.
I mean I love the lads of fifth gear but the tests are pretty pointless to determine the best car.