YES I WOULD AGREE THAT IT IS NEVER WRONG TO LOVE BECAUSE LOVE IS SUPREME ABOVE ALL..HOWEVER, LOVE SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT OBJECT AND GOD HAS SOMETHING TO SAY ABOUT THAT..
The basic message of God and Christ is to love one another. Yet there are so much negativity among the comments posted here. We are all sinners and get off your high horse. At the end of the day, you know who you are and God knows you all too well. Christ never judges you nor condemn you. No human is perfect or God like. You do the best you can to be better and treat one another with respect.
1 Corinto 6:9-10 Magandang Balita Biblia (MBBTAG) 9 Hindi ba ninyo alam na ang mga makasalanan ay walang bahagi sa kaharian ng Diyos? Huwag ninyong dayain ang inyong sarili! Ang mga nakikiapid, sumasamba sa diyus-diyosan, nangangalunya, nakikipagtalik sa kapwa lalaki o kapwa babae, 10 nagnanakaw, sakim, naglalasing, nanlalait ng kapwa, o nandaraya, ay walang bahagi sa kaharian ng Diyos.
There is Nothing wrong if you are gay kasi marami naming gay people ang pinanindigan Kung ano sila nung ipinanganak . But to engage in the act of being gay ang problema.
Look!!! Gay people halos lahat na ng rights nakuha nyo na. Bakit kailangan pang mag pakasal? Pls naman respetuhin nyo naman ang kasal tulad ng pag respeto namin sa inyong kasarian.
OMG! What is this pastor talking about! I can not really see a clear cut of what he is advocating. The questions were vaguely answered that u will not learn neither understand. This episode just disappointed me so much. I thought Roman collared people were all sensible if not all smart. With this Pastor I am sorry to say but he is not giving justice to his uniform. Better go back to school review your doctrines and ponder on it...deeply...
@357archangel Yeah you're right man...I'm happy to know that somebody here courageously stands for the truth..keep it up my friend...don't mind this @zeppiafy..yes kulang lang sya sa pansin.
“wla kaming nilabag na batas sa estado and da tao” yang sabi mo, pano sa Dios?? At bakit Hindi ka nag sabi “wla kaming nilabag sa Dios” diba?? Your answer is out of the topic and not biblical. You don’t even know what romans said, you just a like this and like that but I think Hindi ka nag babasa ng Bible mo.
Ang kasal ay ginagawa ng mga taong tagasunod ng bibiliya, bawal baguhin at tanging alagad lng ng diyos ang pwedeng gumawa. mali na Abogado, mali rin pag Mayor.. Magpagawa ng lang kyo ng contract for life sa abogado, magcelebrate, magpainom. Wag panghimasukan ang mga bagay na pagaari ng simbahan at di nila kyo pakikialaman. Batas ng tao ang gamitin nyo at pwed nyo pang gawin lahat ng gusto nyo basta ayon sa pinagkasunduan nyo. Wag nyo lng tatawaging KASAL.
They are reading the Bible on a Gay Perspective... wow... We cannot interpret the Bible or the Word of God by our own perspective, kung lahat basta na lang mag interpret nyan, lets say ako bilang LALAKI, ei malamang may sarili rin akong interpretasyon... Tao sila at I respect them of who they are and what they are, I can treat them as my friends and walk along with them, but on SAME SEX MARRIAGE issue... I DISAGREE... I DISAGREE... I DISAGREE...
Pinas has a looong way to go to civilization. Can we just be accepting? Marriage is not only for between opposite sex BUT Between love and love. Poor pastor, I cant judge him but doing he's doing his best to represent what he believes.
@olumorador he has been ordained in MCC, a registered church in the Philippines. The word or homosexual was not even invented during Biblical times. Please make your research before commenting. If you want to quit from such, it means you don't know how to love. Love is for everyone unconditionally. You're not following God if you don't know how to love your neighbor.
if bible ang grounds syempre bawal pero pls lets consider hindi lahat ng pinoy christian. some are atheist and they deserve the same right as every filipino. why can't we all just get along.
People are judgmental :) Well that's life. The supreme being is the only one who has the right to say what is wrong and what is right. hmm Keep on criticizing, are you perfect people? IT IS NEVER WRONG TO LOVE! Spread love! :)
1 Corinto 6:9-10 Magandang Balita Biblia (MBBTAG) 9 Hindi ba ninyo alam na ang mga makasalanan ay walang bahagi sa kaharian ng Diyos? Huwag ninyong dayain ang inyong sarili! Ang mga nakikiapid, sumasamba sa diyus-diyosan, nangangalunya, nakikipagtalik sa kapwa lalaki o kapwa babae, 10 nagnanakaw, sakim, naglalasing, nanlalait ng kapwa, o nandaraya, ay walang bahagi sa kaharian ng Diyos.
@357archangel There is no law in the Philippines banning homosexuals, relationships among them, or marriage neither a law supporting it. It is about rights of individuals same way as you are given rights to worship to whoever god you believe, build your place of worship, use of public place for worship or gatherings.
...ano ngayon ang masasabi ni Bishop Bacani at sa mga homophobic na eto about the issue sa mga pari at obispo that received money and cars for their own personal use...di ba mas nakakadiri ito kesa sa same sex marriage...to think na ang pera ay galing sa PCSO na ang mga mahihirap ang dapat makinabang...at yung isa talagang humingi pa ng montero as a bday gift...mas higit silang imoral...haizzzttt! PWEEE!!!
@357archangel :) I think your source is from wikipedia, isnt it? "This finding was replicated in two studies in the United States but not in several others, including a study performed by researchers at the University of Western Ontario in Canada;meta-analysis indicated Xq28 has a significant but not exclusive effect", I think you interpreted this by mistake, it says Xq28 has a significant, but NOT exclusive effect. meaning, Xq28 play importaNT role in homosexuality but there are also others.
It is very disappointing to see a very ugly ways of exchanging ideas in this thread. But I guess there is one idea that stand out here, RESPECT other people's beliefs and don't push down on their throat what you believe. If Christian god doesn't like same sex marriage then so be it for his followers but not for the rest who don't have the same faith. Philippines is a democratic country respecting the rights of its people. problem is this sect is also christian i think
Just because in the eyes of the homosexual community it is right and your promotion of loving and responsible homosexual relationship, plus you said too that pre marital sex is morally neutral. it doesn't mean that in the eyes of Jesus it is right too.
@357archangel Is homosexuality or homosexual relationship a crime in the Philippines? Answer: No. Non-commercial, homosexual relations between consenting adults in private are not a crime. Although sexual conduct or affection that occurs in public may be subject to the "grave scandal" prohibition in Article 200 of the Revised Penal Code.
sure ako na wala talagang makakapunta ng langit na mga bakla at tomboy kasi hindi ginawa ng diyos ang mga bakla at tomboy.if we read in the bible having a relationship with the same sex its really really a BIG SIN in the eyes of our LORD and we cant change what He's telling in the bible in we can prove it in Genesis1:27says that "GOD created man in his own image".male and female GOD created them.its really a abomination from the word of GOD... its not in the eyes of man but in eyes of the LORD.
OMG His a pastor yet? I mean it's not easy not to judge but I wonder what kind of gospel he's teaching to his church? I think what he believes is not at all in the Bible. We're all the sons and daughters of God, but not all good things are God things.
I think gusto sana ni karen defend nya ang mga lgbt base on bible... Pero parang wala makukuha sa pastor na to.. palagi na lang sinasabi na para sa amin (lgbt) bla bla bla.........
Sumakit ulo ko sa Pastor nato, he's not even sure about his statements.Nakakalungkot na may mga ganitong tao well I am not condemning him as a person but then naiinis ako sa mga pinag sasabi niya. May God forgive this person.
@357archangel (homo contd) As noted by Rice et al. (2), there is substantial evidence from family and twin studies, such as those reported by Pillard, Bailey and colleagues (9), that sexual orientation is genetically influenced. Rice et al. also argued, however, that “there would be strong selective pressure against such a gene.”
@MrJaylolo , I suggest you scan through the threads, or do Ctrl-F to find the word, "god" and "religion", then tell me why I'm here. Then use Google or Webster's dictionary to find out the word "dysfunctional" and evaluate yourself if it matches against your words and deeds and the people around you. Have a nice day!
@macmaccanonoy19 what does the Lord wants us to act? Is it not love one other as ourselves? And how do we love others? By understanding them, right? have you tried understanding the LGBT community before making your judgements? Wala naman sinabi sa Bible na opposite sex lang ang mahalin natin
@357archangel (homo contd.)Linkage analysis of a single locus on a limited number of families can show no such thing. Moreover, there are many plausible evolutionary scenarios whereby a gene that predisposed some individuals toward homosexuality could survive or even increase in the population - sciencemagazine, published 1999). now, Can you pls. refer a study of your claim?
you cannot make white black and black into white . black is black , white is white , wrong is wrong , right is right . :) God is Love but also God is God of purity and righteousness and Truthfulness :)
What?? With due respect, all his answers are all wrong! Sin is sin and is abominable to God.
YES I WOULD AGREE THAT IT IS NEVER WRONG TO LOVE BECAUSE LOVE IS SUPREME ABOVE ALL..HOWEVER, LOVE SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT OBJECT AND GOD HAS SOMETHING TO SAY ABOUT THAT..
God bless you Ms. Karen Davila...:)
B STRONG PASTOR--THERE ARE BILLION QUESTIONS AND JUDGEMENT WILL COME..
you should NOT wear a Roman collar if you are NOT a Catholic priest! also DO NOT, DO NOT BAD mouth the CATHOLIC CHURCH...may GoD have mercy on you!
wala syang rights magsoot ng ganoon na damit! sa mga pari lng yan.
The basic message of God and Christ is to love one another. Yet there are so much negativity among the comments posted here. We are all sinners and get off your high horse. At the end of the day, you know who you are and God knows you all too well. Christ never judges you nor condemn you. No human is perfect or God like. You do the best you can to be better and treat one another with respect.
1 Corinto 6:9-10 Magandang Balita Biblia (MBBTAG)
9 Hindi ba ninyo alam na ang mga makasalanan ay walang bahagi sa kaharian ng Diyos? Huwag ninyong dayain ang inyong sarili! Ang mga nakikiapid, sumasamba sa diyus-diyosan, nangangalunya, nakikipagtalik sa kapwa lalaki o kapwa babae, 10 nagnanakaw, sakim, naglalasing, nanlalait ng kapwa, o nandaraya, ay walang bahagi sa kaharian ng Diyos.
The things you are saying is out of the bible.
Magaling pa si Karen sa kanya
Ang mga demonyo Yong mga taong mapanghusga. Sa kapwa, God knows
Im watching this because it big helps on my Position Paper and i need to defend it
I'm part of the LGBT community but.... the way he presented his views are not convincing and even confusing. Hay... disappointed.
i am amirican men and my partner is filipino we are got MCC marrage last year help at manila philippines.
Ms. Karen is such a good host. The man should read the bible...He doesnt have basis on wht he is saying... the man ins very wrong
There is Nothing wrong if you are gay kasi marami naming gay people ang pinanindigan Kung ano sila nung ipinanganak . But to engage in the act of being gay ang problema.
you are still living in flesh.... magsisi ka , blasphemy !!! saan sa bible yan sinabi mo.
Look!!! Gay people halos lahat na ng rights nakuha nyo na. Bakit kailangan pang mag pakasal? Pls naman respetuhin nyo naman ang kasal tulad ng pag respeto namin sa inyong kasarian.
OMG! What is this pastor talking about! I can not really see a clear cut of what he is advocating. The questions were vaguely answered that u will not learn neither understand. This episode just disappointed me so much. I thought Roman collared people were all sensible if not all smart. With this Pastor I am sorry to say but he is not giving justice to his uniform. Better go back to school review your doctrines and ponder on it...deeply...
Sabi daw "bonggang bongga". Kulit nung pastor.
@357archangel Yeah you're right man...I'm happy to know that somebody here courageously stands for the truth..keep it up my friend...don't mind this @zeppiafy..yes kulang lang sya sa pansin.
Grabe. Wala alam..kakatakot
“wla kaming nilabag na batas sa estado and da tao” yang sabi mo, pano sa Dios?? At bakit Hindi ka nag sabi “wla kaming nilabag sa Dios” diba?? Your answer is out of the topic and not biblical. You don’t even know what romans said, you just a like this and like that but I think Hindi ka nag babasa ng Bible mo.
Ang kasal ay ginagawa ng mga taong tagasunod ng bibiliya, bawal baguhin at tanging alagad lng ng diyos ang pwedeng gumawa. mali na Abogado, mali rin pag Mayor.. Magpagawa ng lang kyo ng contract for life sa abogado, magcelebrate, magpainom. Wag panghimasukan ang mga bagay na pagaari ng simbahan at di nila kyo pakikialaman. Batas ng tao ang gamitin nyo at pwed nyo pang gawin lahat ng gusto nyo basta ayon sa pinagkasunduan nyo. Wag nyo lng tatawaging KASAL.
you are not a pastor, you are a pastor who leadeth people into the wrath of GOD
They are reading the Bible on a Gay Perspective... wow... We cannot interpret the Bible or the Word of God by our own perspective, kung lahat basta na lang mag interpret nyan, lets say ako bilang LALAKI, ei malamang may sarili rin akong interpretasyon... Tao sila at I respect them of who they are and what they are, I can treat them as my friends and walk along with them, but on SAME SEX MARRIAGE issue... I DISAGREE... I DISAGREE... I DISAGREE...
Pinas has a looong way to go to civilization. Can we just be accepting? Marriage is not only for between opposite sex BUT Between love and love. Poor pastor, I cant judge him but doing he's doing his best to represent what he believes.
thank u
@olumorador he has been ordained in MCC, a registered church in the Philippines. The word or homosexual was not even invented during Biblical times. Please make your research before commenting. If you want to quit from such, it means you don't know how to love. Love is for everyone unconditionally. You're not following God if you don't know how to love your neighbor.
Don't change words of sins is not bad ,what are the 7 capital sin . that is oppose to God you know , inverted brain that's evil doings
i think walang na kakaalam kung anu ang itatanung ng Diyos sa aten pag dumating na ang paghuhukom
if bible ang grounds syempre bawal pero pls lets consider hindi lahat ng pinoy christian. some are atheist and they deserve the same right as every filipino. why can't we all just get along.
People are judgmental :) Well that's life. The supreme being is the only one who has the right to say what is wrong and what is right. hmm Keep on criticizing, are you perfect people? IT IS NEVER WRONG TO LOVE! Spread love! :)
1 Corinto 6:9-10 Magandang Balita Biblia (MBBTAG)
9 Hindi ba ninyo alam na ang mga makasalanan ay walang bahagi sa kaharian ng Diyos? Huwag ninyong dayain ang inyong sarili! Ang mga nakikiapid, sumasamba sa diyus-diyosan, nangangalunya, nakikipagtalik sa kapwa lalaki o kapwa babae, 10 nagnanakaw, sakim, naglalasing, nanlalait ng kapwa, o nandaraya, ay walang bahagi sa kaharian ng Diyos.
nakakalungkot may mga ganitong pastor bading pa talaga..
Wag naman po taung manglait ng kapwa tao.
@357archangel
There is no law in the Philippines banning homosexuals, relationships among them, or marriage neither a law supporting it. It is about rights of individuals same way as you are given rights to worship to whoever god you believe, build your place of worship, use of public place for worship or gatherings.
...ano ngayon ang masasabi ni Bishop Bacani at sa mga homophobic na eto about the issue sa mga pari at obispo that received money and cars for their own personal use...di ba mas nakakadiri ito kesa sa same sex marriage...to think na ang pera ay galing sa PCSO na ang mga mahihirap ang dapat makinabang...at yung isa talagang humingi pa ng montero as a bday gift...mas higit silang imoral...haizzzttt! PWEEE!!!
@357archangel :) I think your source is from wikipedia, isnt it? "This finding was replicated in two studies in the United States but not in several others, including a study performed by researchers at the University of Western Ontario in Canada;meta-analysis indicated Xq28 has a significant but not exclusive effect",
I think you interpreted this by mistake, it says Xq28 has a significant, but NOT exclusive effect. meaning, Xq28 play importaNT role in homosexuality but there are also others.
It is very disappointing to see a very ugly ways of exchanging ideas in this thread. But I guess there is one idea that stand out here, RESPECT other people's beliefs and don't push down on their throat what you believe. If Christian god doesn't like same sex marriage then so be it for his followers but not for the rest who don't have the same faith. Philippines is a democratic country respecting the rights of its people. problem is this sect is also christian i think
How about the story of Sodom and Gomorrah???...
Just because in the eyes of the homosexual community it is right and your promotion of loving and responsible homosexual relationship, plus you said too that pre marital sex is morally neutral. it doesn't mean that in the eyes of Jesus it is right too.
@357archangel Is homosexuality or homosexual relationship a crime in the Philippines?
Answer:
No. Non-commercial, homosexual relations between consenting adults in private are not a crime. Although sexual conduct or affection that occurs in public may be subject to the "grave scandal" prohibition in Article 200 of the Revised Penal Code.
Paano to nagig Pastor? Nagbabasa ba talaga to ng Bible?
sure ako na wala talagang makakapunta ng langit na mga bakla at tomboy kasi hindi ginawa ng diyos ang mga bakla at tomboy.if we read in the bible having a relationship with the same sex its really really a BIG SIN in the eyes of our LORD and we cant change what He's telling in the bible in we can prove it in Genesis1:27says that "GOD created man in his own image".male and female GOD created them.its really a abomination from the word of GOD... its not in the eyes of man but in eyes of the LORD.
Do what you want, your Free that's your Life
Wow! Take note: NO BIBLICAL BASIS. *SLOW CLAP*
By telling this, you clearly shows YOUR TRUE IDENTITY, REV. CEEJAY AGBAYANI
Ha ha ha matino daw siya niyan
so sad.T_T me pastor na pala na ganito ang tinutoro?
Hindi po yan pastor sa mata ng bible karen.
OMG His a pastor yet? I mean it's not easy not to judge but I wonder what kind of gospel he's teaching to his church? I think what he believes is not at all in the Bible. We're all the sons and daughters of God, but not all good things are God things.
Defective moral values! Hmmmm
I think gusto sana ni karen defend nya ang mga lgbt base on bible... Pero parang wala makukuha sa pastor na to.. palagi na lang sinasabi na para sa amin (lgbt) bla bla bla.........
Sumakit ulo ko sa Pastor nato, he's not even sure about his statements.Nakakalungkot na may mga ganitong tao well I am not condemning him as a person but then naiinis ako sa mga pinag sasabi niya. May God forgive this person.
Si satanas dumating sa para manira,at linlangin ang tao
Pre marital hindi kasalanan? Hindi kasalanan? 🤦
ang babaw ng theology mo boy! patse,patse ka pa ha?
@357archangel (homo contd) As noted by Rice et al. (2), there is substantial evidence from family and twin studies, such as those reported by Pillard, Bailey and colleagues (9), that sexual orientation is genetically influenced. Rice et al. also argued, however, that “there would be strong selective pressure against such a gene.”
omg HND ako believe
@MrJaylolo , I suggest you scan through the threads, or do Ctrl-F to find the word, "god" and "religion", then tell me why I'm here. Then use Google or Webster's dictionary to find out the word "dysfunctional" and evaluate yourself if it matches against your words and deeds and the people around you. Have a nice day!
Hindi ka pastor.
Sakit sa ulo nito.
Pastor wala pong wisdom
THE WAY U TALK KA DIRI KA
if being a gay is a choice, then when did you decide to become straight or a heterosexual?
Pastor? Pari?? Whaaaattt??!
correct ka Karen u can be gay without practicing homosexuality
@macmaccanonoy19 what does the Lord wants us to act? Is it not love one other as ourselves? And how do we love others? By understanding them, right? have you tried understanding the LGBT community before making your judgements? Wala naman sinabi sa Bible na opposite sex lang ang mahalin natin
@MrTotoDoc its funny how you think you are not adressing religion...
PASTOR KA BA TALAGA
hala sya? pastor ng ano ba to? sa pula o sa puti?
Lev.20:13 kaawa awa ang mga kaluluwa nito,pastor pastoran lang yan.kabaliktaran ng katotohanan.Juan 10:10 satan is a Liar..
@357archangel (homo contd.)Linkage analysis of a single locus on a limited number of families can show no such thing. Moreover, there are many plausible evolutionary scenarios whereby a gene that predisposed some individuals toward homosexuality could survive or even increase in the population - sciencemagazine, published 1999). now, Can you pls. refer a study of your claim?
Pastor, wit daw!! Hahaha!!
@357archangel really? then cite one study from scientific community.
"Pak! Rampa! Tomoh! Wit! Keme! Bonggang bonga!" - Pastor
Watch this! It's funny somehow. . . Lol. . .
rev.? reaaly?
agree
Preach! I love you! :)) hahaha
you cannot make white black and black into white . black is black , white is white , wrong is wrong , right is right . :) God is Love but also God is God of purity and righteousness and Truthfulness :)
mas maganda siguro kung mag[akabakla ka muna.