Neith: The Mysterious Case of Venus's Moon.

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    Moons are a common feature throughout our solar system, but two of the major planets don't have them, Mercury and Venus. It's easy to figure out why Mercury doesn't have one, it's too close to the sun, but Venus on the other hand is harder to explain. Did our sister planet ever have a moon? If it did, then what happened to it? What exactly were early astronomers seeing that led them to think there was a moon? Was it actually a moon or something else? In this observation we'll attempt to find the clues to help crack the case of Venus's missing moon.

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  • @RooftopsofAmerica
    @RooftopsofAmerica  2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    If you enjoyed this episode make sure to check out the rest of the Rooftops of the Solar System series! th-cam.com/play/PL2d9m95LG0iIerPuipFgNFgH5_XqnCAmK.html

    • @Sennmut
      @Sennmut 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just curious...are you ill, sir? You sound as if you are having breathing trouble throught this vid.
      Cool vid, BTW.

    • @RooftopsofAmerica
      @RooftopsofAmerica  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Sennmut I may have had a cold, I can't recall. I do know I was still using a shotgun style mic at this point and it would pick up a lot of ambient noise. Thanks for watching!

  • @donkeyballs3081
    @donkeyballs3081 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

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    @OGseoulite 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

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    • @RooftopsofAmerica
      @RooftopsofAmerica  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks! It has always been a goal of mine to reach that level. Slowly but surely the episodes are getting there.

    • @OGseoulite
      @OGseoulite 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@RooftopsofAmerica After being visited by Neith the goddess herself I found my way back to this video!!! I was surprised I’ve already been here lol💖💖

    • @RooftopsofAmerica
      @RooftopsofAmerica  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@OGseoulite Welcome back!!!

  • @readingbetweentheframes
    @readingbetweentheframes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I love how you sound just like Neil Tyson. You definitely need some Alan Silvestri in these videos!

    • @RooftopsofAmerica
      @RooftopsofAmerica  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks! That's my first Neil Tyson compliment! I've heard Marty Stouffer and even Neil's Cosmos predecessor Carl Sagan but never Neil Degrasse Tyson before. As for Mr. Silvestri I probably couldn't afford the music rights! Cheers!

  • @steveseale5393
    @steveseale5393 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Really appreciate this one!! Never heard of most of this and have always fancied myself an astronomical enthusiast!

    • @RooftopsofAmerica
      @RooftopsofAmerica  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm glad you liked Steve! It's fun exploring these little oddities of space exploration.

  • @wutntarnation
    @wutntarnation 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    My theory is that like Mar's moon Phobos and its degrading orbit, Neith's orbit recently degraded to the point that it broke apart because of gravitational strain and impacted the surface of Venus at a low trajectory, thus causing huge gouges that over the intervening centuries have filled with magma much like the Siberian traps but on a much larger scale. This could possibly be the cause of the hellish conditions on Venus's surface.

    • @TheSolidsoundwavesif
      @TheSolidsoundwavesif ปีที่แล้ว +4

      💯

    • @JaisalLakum
      @JaisalLakum 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That would mean Venus must have rings…

    • @wutntarnation
      @wutntarnation 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@JaisalLakum
      If the moon broke apart above the gravitational point where debris would not be pulled down to the planet then there would be rings. Also, depending upon the composition of Neith it could survive an eccentric orbit. A moon comprised of mostly iron and nickel would be much more likely to survive higher gravitational stresses than a moon comprised of loosely packed debris.

  • @shotgunsurgeon3849
    @shotgunsurgeon3849 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video. Just found about this whole Neith thing today. Super interesting.

  • @Bazilli
    @Bazilli ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You did a great job on these videos. Wstched each one multiple times now.

    • @RooftopsofAmerica
      @RooftopsofAmerica  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you! More solar system episodes are on the way too!

    • @Bazilli
      @Bazilli ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RooftopsofAmerica Awesome, looking forward to them.

  • @emilyconcannon
    @emilyconcannon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just found your channel and I love it 😊

  • @chriscutress1702
    @chriscutress1702 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    What about the theory that Mercury was once the moon of Venus ?
    This could explain the orbit of Mercury and the slow counter revolution of Venus.

    • @RooftopsofAmerica
      @RooftopsofAmerica  2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Mercury may look like our moon but it is drastically different where it counts...on the inside. Its incredibly dense body, higher density than Venus, and evidence points it was larger at one point. Hard for a body the size of Venus to be able to capture and maintain a body like that in orbit without the destruction of both.

    • @arizona_anime_fan
      @arizona_anime_fan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@RooftopsofAmerica yep, meercury may have been a neptune sized gas giant that just burnt down to nothing in the end.

  • @williamkirk1156
    @williamkirk1156 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Well done and presented. Thank you.

  • @ameliawarfield5637
    @ameliawarfield5637 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm impressed with this informative video about the moon of Venus.

  • @WoodysAR
    @WoodysAR 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is great thanks! It sounds amazing at 1.25 speed.

  • @Panzer_Runner
    @Panzer_Runner 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very nice video, really relaxing and informative

    • @RooftopsofAmerica
      @RooftopsofAmerica  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you! If you enjoyed this one check out the rest of the Rooftops of the Solar System series!

  • @davidsradioroom9678
    @davidsradioroom9678 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    That was really interesting. Thanks!

    • @RooftopsofAmerica
      @RooftopsofAmerica  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You're welcome! Thanks for checking it out!

  • @MatthewOfLondon
    @MatthewOfLondon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Enjoyable video. Thank you.😃

  • @galacticknight55544
    @galacticknight55544 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I hope Neith will somehow turn out to be real. And habitable. Wouldn't that be nice?

  • @alexritchie4586
    @alexritchie4586 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Could it not be the case that Venus did indeed have a moon but due to an unstable polar orbit it was flung away, either into the Sun, or into deep space, sometime around the C18th?
    Wouldn't a large body orbiting a planet perpendicular to its rotation bleed it of angular momentum? Particularly if the orbit isn't aligned exactly with the planet's poles, and is cocked at an angle, like our Moon's 5° orbital deviation from the Solar ecliptic?
    Perhaps it is the case that Venus did have a circumpolar orbiting moon that bled off Venus' rotational inertia, and when Venus was rotating at zero velocity, essentially tidally locked to the Sun, the overall momentum within its system was so sparse that its moon simply drifted away, its final yank at a skewed angle tugging Venus into its current achingly slow backwards rotation.

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    @SB223_06 2 ปีที่แล้ว

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      I appreciate that! I'll admit I could be better at promoting my work.

  • @salty7943
    @salty7943 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    underratted channel

    • @RooftopsofAmerica
      @RooftopsofAmerica  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Perhaps someday it'll breakthrough but right now I'll just keeping put out good content. Cheers!

  • @susancaleca4796
    @susancaleca4796 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Only recently found out about Mars moons

  • @SomeAT-AT
    @SomeAT-AT ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Kinda wonder in a different universe where Earth's sister actually had a moon. What would it look like? Thoughts?

    • @RooftopsofAmerica
      @RooftopsofAmerica  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's a good question, one thing I don't think it would be is the size of our moon. It's an anomaly in its own right. I think it would be smaller in size, probably more like Mimas or Proteus. As for its appearance I think that would be closer to how our moon looks with its craters and mare.

    • @SomeAT-AT
      @SomeAT-AT ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@RooftopsofAmerica Reasonable speculation maybe if it did exist the Russians wouldn't have to see hell first hand! Heh.

    • @thursoberwick1948
      @thursoberwick1948 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe like Phobos and Deimos too. A captured rock.

  • @ReviCat
    @ReviCat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yeah only like 4% of people know Neith existed 4.3 billion years ago. Neith collided with venus forever and there might be people who know about Neith more

  • @MarsTheMartianPlanet
    @MarsTheMartianPlanet ปีที่แล้ว +1

    IM STARTING TO THINK THEIA WAS VENUS'S MOON AND MAYBE EARTH DESTROYED THEIA / VENUS'S MOON MAYBE

  • @Only_God_Is_Allah_SWT
    @Only_God_Is_Allah_SWT ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What about planet Vulcan viewed by astronomers before and after 1800s, for centuries which was placed before Mercury?

    • @RooftopsofAmerica
      @RooftopsofAmerica  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You'll want to check out the Vulcan episode for more details on that!

  • @Alex-vi4ld
    @Alex-vi4ld 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Another mercury suggested merucru had a moon aswell

  • @handledav
    @handledav ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It.

  • @OldSilkRoad
    @OldSilkRoad ปีที่แล้ว

    There is one more intriguing theory as to the current whereabouts of Venus’s lost moon: it is hiding in plain sight. When it was knocked out of Venus’s orbit, it got caught up in the Sun’s hill sphere. It is the planet Mercury!

  • @yasirpanezai5690
    @yasirpanezai5690 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Planets without a spin cannot have moons

  • @tonybatista1928
    @tonybatista1928 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hubble space telescope, and all the modern instruments have not seen anything.

  • @lebanh3304
    @lebanh3304 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Venus might have used to be habitable!

  • @silaskuira9124
    @silaskuira9124 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wouldn't native moons be differentiated from captured moons by presence or absence of tidal locking? (I like the mountain man setup of this video)

    • @RooftopsofAmerica
      @RooftopsofAmerica  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not necessarily, both Phoebe (Saturn) and Triton (Neptune), two suspected captured moons, are both tidally locked. As for the look, since this was a spinoff of sorts of my main serious I decided to keep the general style.

    • @silaskuira9124
      @silaskuira9124 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RooftopsofAmerica That's interesting. Now I'm wondering what scenarios lead to tidal locking and how the other planets got their native moons. Is it similar to our moon's creation with a rocky planet like Mars? As for the gas Giants is it a different process?

    • @NullHand
      @NullHand 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@silaskuira9124 Tides lead to tidal locking. Typically the bodies undergoing tidal locking are elongated from spheres to elipsoids (though not usually visibly) with the pointy ends alligned to the orbiting partner. Any spin in excess of the orbital period tends to try to torque the long axis out of alignement, and the angular momentum of that spin gets bled off as frictional heating (Io), or by transfer into orbital angular momentum (Earth-Moon). Closer in orbits and fluid composition (lava, atmospheres, oceans) tend to accelerate tidal locking, and lighter bodies have less angular momentum and lock sooner. Our Moon locked long ago, and if our Earth-Moon system had 50 billion more years of tides transfering our day length into Lunar orbital distance we would lock to the moon with a day length of about 1100 hours.

    • @silaskuira9124
      @silaskuira9124 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NullHand interesting, that's classic entanglement. I wonder if by extension the entire solar system is slowly synchronizing all motions.

  • @msn4th391
    @msn4th391 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Maybe Mercury is the moon.

  • @thomasdillon7761
    @thomasdillon7761 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That's no moon. It's a space station.

  • @javiercessani.9648
    @javiercessani.9648 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Venus se esta atrayendo a la luna hacia el.

  • @TheGirlHerself444
    @TheGirlHerself444 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Got what I came for, so the goddess neith is associated with Venus

  • @susancaleca4796
    @susancaleca4796 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why couldn't Mercury be the Suns moon

  • @miguelfigueroa2682
    @miguelfigueroa2682 ปีที่แล้ว

    Maybe mercury is Venus moon

  • @randellgribben9772
    @randellgribben9772 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    funny video... why not call venus non missing moon,,, zsaperth,, makes it more ' out there'

    • @RooftopsofAmerica
      @RooftopsofAmerica  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You'd have to take that up with Jean-Charles Houzeau since he originated the name for this hypothetical moon. Glad you enjoyed the video and thank you for watching!

  • @Michael-D.-Williams
    @Michael-D.-Williams 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Interestingly enough, the phrase 'interestingly enough' is one of the most cumbersome, unpronounceable and flat-out boring phrases in any language, and instantly loses the speaker any attention they might have commanded.

  • @luklopskywalk
    @luklopskywalk 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    ads ads ads.

  • @audreninoquenziehendarto5775
    @audreninoquenziehendarto5775 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Earth have 2 moons 1 ITS moon 2 but i can not tell you 😐

  • @markgarin6355
    @markgarin6355 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Standing outside eh? Lame excuse.. and astronomers have been full of crap ever since.