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I would love to move to Bend.. Mark Waters (backcountryrecumbent) is where i bough my Etrike.. He is a good friend. but the elevation is so high i would get stuck in a snow drift.. I rely on my trike to shop. Medford or Ashland has better weather for cycling. but that is probably going to be in Oregon.. I have had my name on a waitlist there.. but that takes 3-5 years.. When i get an inheritance, (hopefully not soon, i like my dad) i will give you a call to set up some viewings.. I 'm visually impaired, i need ground floor, no steps (to trip on) and a garage for my trike with an opener, would eventually like a garden area, it's own sewer and well. I grew up in Idaho. My dad has a successful irrigation business where he produces Kbox and bubblescreen. If i could see the ban saws, i would be working there. LOL..
That's funny, neither Oregon or Washington would entertain such nonsense. It's ridiculous, that people want to move state lines, instead of packing up and moving themselves.
@troywest7045 you do realise that state lines have been redrawn for reasons like this before. It can and should be happening. If the state becomes corrupt and despotic Than it aught be reprimanded and punished by its citizenry for its failings and abuses. A state losing territory is inevitable, attempting to gridlock the nation and deprive people of their right to self determination will inevitably lead to explosive tension. The state is no monolith for us to revere, but a tool to bend into shape. The state is not some benevolent religion deserving of faith, but a dangerous corporation with a monopoly on violence.
People don't want to move from where they've lived most of thier life they just dont want Seattle and Portland and Sacramento cramming their Marxist agenda down the throat of the rural county's which is most of the county's in the state.
I live in Oregon near Eugene. I would end up in Oregon still after the change. I have empathy for the people who want to be in Idaho. Oregon is extremely leftist in its government. Since mail in voting was made law, the Democrats have taken power and always have enough votes in the big cities on the interstate 5 corridor. People who live in the east look at the legislation of Oregon's recent history as backwards and non-sensible. If the change happens where I live would still be Oregon. I would be abandoned by the biggest part of the state where people have a more firm grounding of realities. If I lived in the part that wants to be Idaho, I would vote for it,
The issue ultimately comes down to representation: Residents of many of the rural areas in Eastern Oregon/Washington are not represented by the states, which are predominantly controlled major urban centers in Seattle, Portland, Eugene, Olympia, etc. It's not even about team red/blue divide, per se, either... It's more about almost all policies intended to solve urban issues being applied to rural residents (as the majority of WA/OR voters live urban/suburban regions). Demanding all these rural residents to simply move to Idaho is also absurd and a bit delusional... If the vast majority of a population in Western Texas is not being served by their state government, would it not be the democratic thing to do to allow them to join with, for example, a more aligned New Mexico government?
@@AniwayasSong Then why did so many of the same counties involved foist their sometimes hopeless highway maintenance issues on the state for the last 20 years? Understand: I went and drove ALL of them. I am of the opinion that you’re just upset we don’t throw more money at you.
@@movingtobendoregon That very "small population" also voted to be part of Idaho rather than stay with a state heading in the direction the people of the I5 corridor are taking Oregon
@@ryker900travels7 So… what concerns you about this direction? There is a Portland TV report regarding “Greater Idaho” that, to most of the people given a voice, never gave more specifics than “leave us alone.” And I don’t think this is an editing issue (ownership of the conglomerate that includes KGW shall not be considered left wing for MANY reasons). There’s something disingenuous about this movement. So explain what you mean. Not that this is going to happen… the people who are taking over in Washington next year are more interested in legalizing their grift. So I think you’re outvoted regardless. But please try to explain our direction. And have you been watching Idaho recently?
The worst thing that happened to Prineville is the Facebook intrusion here , the people of Prineville were lied to, the building never stops, Facebook pays no taxes, and brought in people unruly to country living
Maybe...this movement can include the entire western half of California (including Orange County). Imagine...one state that reaches from the Mexican boarder, all the way to Canada. ;)
@@movingtobendoregon Actually, I made a slight mistake. I meant to say "Eastern" half of Ca. Because, if you look at the voting map of 2024, the entire eastern half went red. Either way, Greater Idaho would probably pick up 30~40 seats in the House. :)
@movingtobendoregon : Just telling the truth freind . Nobody in idaho is interested in changing our state . An Oregon conservative and, an Idaho conservative are not the same thing .
You have a large volume of people interested. Otherwise, the story wouldn’t keep popping up in the headlines. “Rep. Barbara Ehardt, R-Idaho Falls, said there is no reason not to consider adding such a giant expansion of land to Idaho. Ehardt said she and Rep. Judy Boyle, R-Midvale, have been working on the issue actively for two years.”
I would like to see a greater Iowa movement to swallow Central Illinois. I don’t live there anymore but it’s sad to see the soil being so mistreated by Chicago politics.
It would cost Idaho billions of dollars to take on the sale and/or transfer of all the assets (land and buildings) and take on debt related to eastern Oregon. Everyone’s for it until it costs them money.
@@WillCookYourFood Once we get rid of statewide mail in voting, all the illegals, and require voter ID, then we can vote her out. Our voting system has been corrupt for a very long time.
The rest of Oregon would have to agree also. Imagine the reasons they might not want to do that, not the least of which would include the largest prison in the state, and a grundle of state owned land. Don't think it'd be wise to bet the farm on it just yet. And do these folks have no imagination?.... 'Greater Idaho' is the best they can do???
Do you people not understand how any of this works? I swear, people are getting dumber by the day. This doesn't have a snowball chance in hell of ever happening.
Under no circumstances will i vote for this. If you want to move to idaho, nothing is stopping you, fn move! I will not give up the best part of my state to Idaho. Fn spud heads leave!
Funny how the "if you don't like the country, move out" argument dies as soon as you think you could just take it with you! I guess Eugene should just take some of springfield because the river separating them is in the wrong spot. Hell, Newport might as well just take Waldport because some people would prefer that, and that's all that matters . Maybe we can trade puerto rico for greenland! Or just declare the panama canal sucks and needs to be ours. If we talk loud enough, we'll just get whatever we want! Y'all ain't goin' anywhere until you pack up and leave. Not saying I want you gone at all.
moving over state line (former Oregon to Idaho) 1: car licensing, tabs, drivers license and 4% tax on the value of your car will have to be paid, insurance adjustments need to be made.. 2: Property tax, Insurance etc need to be adjusted. Some insurance is only for oregon so you will need to find new insurance. 3: anyone with a business will have to have property value appraised for Idaho Tax. and any Licenses will need to be changed (involves passing test ..again). Teachers need to get an Idaho license.. Real estate, hair cutting, restaurants have different licensing requirements. This is going to be very expensive for all involved. There will need to be programs to defer or eliminate some of this expense of many will go out of business in this bad economy.. maybe tax credits for everyone transitioning.
@@dansmith3507totally agree. I lived in seattle years ago, now in portland.. both are corrupt today.. I jokingly call them "sister cities: Sodom and Gomorrah". once your out of Oregon, don't look back.. LOL
I would say you need to do your homework. 1st, there is no sales tax on a vehicle you own. 2nd title and registration are $14.00 for title, and for my truck, which has the equivalent of a T plate (over 10k gvw), is 80 bucks a year, including Idaho parks pass. If you are unfamiliar with that no day use fees at state parks. Licensing is take a written test and you are squared away. I lived in Oregon for most of my 53 years and the best ting I ever did was leave Oregon. I was able to expand my business and live in a place where common sense rules are how things are done. I pay less in tax even with a sales tax than I did in taxes in Oregon.
@@raycharters6723 no sales tax in Oregon.. I moved from Idaho in the 1980s to washington with a 1 year old car, Washington required me to pay the appraised value of my car.. i had to pay washington's 10% tax to license my car in Washington, even though i had already paid the Idaho sales tax of 4%.. it has to do with the value of the car when you change states..
If people could afford to buy, in Idaho, a similar property they would have to selling in Oregon, they would. If you own a large track of land with improvements on it in Oregon its likely something akin to it in Idaho does not exist or is to expensive.
Yes, because everyone, but ESPECIALLY generational ranchers/farmers, can just pack up their pick-ups and uproot their families so easily. Try harder if you're going to enter into a mature, adult conversation. Otherwise, don't say anything at all.
@@ryker900travels7 Um, if you’re hoping to sell a plot in Ukiah and buy in Sun Valley, good luck with that. My sister owns on the east side of Portland and could easily move to Boise (where that rush of two years ago already crested). Sun Valley, maybe, maybe not. Somewhere like Gooding or Jerome? C’mon. I lived in Idaho for 15 years and I know most of the state would be easy access… and what isn’t. So I’m curious which apples and oranges you’re comparing.
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I would love to move to Bend.. Mark Waters (backcountryrecumbent) is where i bough my Etrike.. He is a good friend. but the elevation is so high i would get stuck in a snow drift.. I rely on my trike to shop. Medford or Ashland has better weather for cycling. but that is probably going to be in Oregon.. I have had my name on a waitlist there.. but that takes 3-5 years.. When i get an inheritance, (hopefully not soon, i like my dad) i will give you a call to set up some viewings.. I 'm visually impaired, i need ground floor, no steps (to trip on) and a garage for my trike with an opener, would eventually like a garden area, it's own sewer and well. I grew up in Idaho. My dad has a successful irrigation business where he produces Kbox and bubblescreen. If i could see the ban saws, i would be working there. LOL..
@ oh wow. Thanks for sharing your thoughts
If Greater Idaho happens, I'm moving to an Oregon county that joined.
Good idea
Me too
You can all just fuckin' move to Idaho now. 😆
@ hahaha. Someone feisty.
I heard talk of Eastern Washington wanting to join the greater Idaho movement also.
Nice
That's funny, neither Oregon or Washington would entertain such nonsense. It's ridiculous, that people want to move state lines, instead of packing up and moving themselves.
@troywest7045 you do realise that state lines have been redrawn for reasons like this before. It can and should be happening. If the state becomes corrupt and despotic Than it aught be reprimanded and punished by its citizenry for its failings and abuses. A state losing territory is inevitable, attempting to gridlock the nation and deprive people of their right to self determination will inevitably lead to explosive tension.
The state is no monolith for us to revere, but a tool to bend into shape. The state is not some benevolent religion deserving of faith, but a dangerous corporation with a monopoly on violence.
People don't want to move from where they've lived most of thier life they just dont want Seattle and Portland and Sacramento cramming their Marxist agenda down the throat of the rural county's which is most of the county's in the state.
@@troywest7045
I am in 6months after my daughter graduates.
I'd prefer just kicking out portland to eugene from oregon, they can do their own thing.
Hahaha
I would move to Idaho! Fingers crossed.
Okay 👌
GFY! move to idaho if you don't like it!
@@tj7870 there ya go
People in Eastern Washington are sick and tired of the democratic regime!! Would be great to join Idaho!!🤗
Why are they not talked about more?
@@Robert-o2x nothing is stopping anyone from moving to idaho! Join today!
I live in Oregon near Eugene. I would end up in Oregon still after the change. I have empathy for the people who want to be in Idaho. Oregon is extremely leftist in its government. Since mail in voting was made law, the Democrats have taken power and always have enough votes in the big cities on the interstate 5 corridor. People who live in the east look at the legislation of Oregon's recent history as backwards and non-sensible. If the change happens where I live would still be Oregon. I would be abandoned by the biggest part of the state where people have a more firm grounding of realities. If I lived in the part that wants to be Idaho, I would vote for it,
Appreciate your thoughts on this
State of Jefferson!
Ditto-Washington
The issue ultimately comes down to representation: Residents of many of the rural areas in Eastern Oregon/Washington are not represented by the states, which are predominantly controlled major urban centers in Seattle, Portland, Eugene, Olympia, etc.
It's not even about team red/blue divide, per se, either... It's more about almost all policies intended to solve urban issues being applied to rural residents (as the majority of WA/OR voters live urban/suburban regions).
Demanding all these rural residents to simply move to Idaho is also absurd and a bit delusional... If the vast majority of a population in Western Texas is not being served by their state government, would it not be the democratic thing to do to allow them to join with, for example, a more aligned New Mexico government?
Great points
They are represented, proportionately. People are represented, people vote -- not dirt, not cows.
Burns will be a boom town if it were to succeed
@@txduck haha. How about that thought 💪💁♂️
I'd be curious if Idaho could financially maintain the roads and other infrastructure gaining such a large area with a relatively small tax base.
Good question! That's a big topic for sure.
You'd be amazed at how CHEAP highway maintenance is, vs all the extra tax $$$ Idaho would be shoveling into that States' coffers.
@@AniwayasSong Then why did so many of the same counties involved foist their sometimes hopeless highway maintenance issues on the state for the last 20 years?
Understand: I went and drove ALL of them. I am of the opinion that you’re just upset we don’t throw more money at you.
Interesting 🤔
Appreciate that thought
The movement only received 10,000 votes total to date… which demonstrates how thinly populated most of the counties that voted for this proposal are.
Very small population
@@movingtobendoregon That very "small population" also voted to be part of Idaho rather than stay with a state heading in the direction the people of the I5 corridor are taking Oregon
@@ryker900travels7 So… what concerns you about this direction?
There is a Portland TV report regarding “Greater Idaho” that, to most of the people given a voice, never gave more specifics than “leave us alone.” And I don’t think this is an editing issue (ownership of the conglomerate that includes KGW shall not be considered left wing for MANY reasons). There’s something disingenuous about this movement.
So explain what you mean.
Not that this is going to happen… the people who are taking over in Washington next year are more interested in legalizing their grift. So I think you’re outvoted regardless. But please try to explain our direction. And have you been watching Idaho recently?
The worst thing that happened to Prineville is the Facebook intrusion here , the people of Prineville were lied to, the building never stops, Facebook pays no taxes, and brought in people unruly to country living
I can understand that.
How many locals do they employ?
@ good question
@@mattrich1081 that's the free market for ya! Shit has to go somewhere!
@@mattrich1081 my daughter lives in Prineville and I saw how massive that FB building was! It’s beyond ridiculous. I was very sad to see it.
I’m in Crook County and all for it!
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I like how the GI is a giant middle finger.
Hahaha it would be 😆
Yep 😆
Maybe...this movement can include the entire western half of California (including Orange County). Imagine...one state that reaches from the Mexican boarder, all the way to Canada. ;)
Great idea 🤣
@@movingtobendoregon Actually, I made a slight mistake. I meant to say "Eastern" half of Ca. Because, if you look at the voting map of 2024, the entire eastern half went red. Either way, Greater Idaho would probably pick up 30~40 seats in the House. :)
Lol essentially the Pacific Crest Trail
@@Lilllingstoner Hahaha
@@manchaug Interesting thinking
Don’t forget Washington
Noted
The thing about this is neither of the parties want to change house or senate seats.
Likely
Eastern Oregon folks would have to get used to marijuana being illegal again. Not that that stops anyone in Idaho.
Haha
Changing state lines would require approval of the Oregon legislature and Trump can't do anything about that.
Yes true
😂 TDS
@@Lilllingstoner haha
Folks from Oregon and Washington need to understand, this guy is wrong.
The vast majority of Idahoans do not support greater Idaho .
Hahaha hey don’t shoot the messenger pal 😆
@movingtobendoregon : Just telling the truth freind . Nobody in idaho is interested in changing our state .
An Oregon conservative and, an Idaho conservative are not the same thing .
You have a large volume of people interested. Otherwise, the story wouldn’t keep popping up in the headlines.
“Rep. Barbara Ehardt, R-Idaho Falls, said there is no reason not to consider adding such a giant expansion of land to Idaho. Ehardt said she and Rep. Judy Boyle, R-Midvale, have been working on the issue actively for two years.”
The movement would take a whole lot of people saying yes to succeed, and who will never say yes.
Agreed
I wish weld county in Colorado would move to Wyoming
@@rizerchris starting to realize this idea exists in many places. Thank you for sharing your thoughts.
Bend and the adjacent area has been a mecca for retirees from California, and brought their philosophy and politics along with them.
@@timmoore9736 some truth in there
I would like to see a greater Iowa movement to swallow Central Illinois. I don’t live there anymore but it’s sad to see the soil being so mistreated by Chicago politics.
@@pinballpsycho interesting. Didn’t realize a similar sentiment existed in Illinois
It would cost Idaho billions of dollars to take on the sale and/or transfer of all the assets (land and buildings) and take on debt related to eastern Oregon. Everyone’s for it until it costs them money.
@@ryanscott2626 true!
will greater idaho also have the 4% sales tax..? This will also give idaho more delegates, and oregon less delegates..
@@rdkuless doubt that they get that far to even consider it
I know!!! Put the “move” back in “Movement” if you want to live in Idaho. It’s so Mepublican - kick and scream until you get your way.
Haha
I like the state of Jefferson better since I am on the south coast in Oregon. I don't want to be under the rule of Kotek.
Has Jefferson ever gained any real traction?
@@chateauxdelarogue1034 vote her out, then.
@@movingtobendoregon No, Not really, unfortunately.
@@WillCookYourFood Once we get rid of statewide mail in voting, all the illegals, and require voter ID, then we can vote her out. Our voting system has been corrupt for a very long time.
The rest of Oregon would have to agree also. Imagine the reasons they might not want to do that, not the least of which would include the largest prison in the state, and a grundle of state owned land. Don't think it'd be wise to bet the farm on it just yet. And do these folks have no imagination?.... 'Greater Idaho' is the best they can do???
Haha guess so
I live in Jefferson County and I voted yes for Idaho because I am sick of the leftist loons!
How many votes in Jefferson county?
Not gonna happen!
Please add eastern washington
Seems like it would make sense
Do you people not understand how any of this works? I swear, people are getting dumber by the day. This doesn't have a snowball chance in hell of ever happening.
@ I think most already understand that Troy
Oregon would lose the Snake River and half of their Columbia River frontage and bargaining power, they'd be pretty dumb to agree to that willingly.
Never thought of that
Under no circumstances will i vote for this.
If you want to move to idaho, nothing is stopping you, fn move!
I will not give up the best part of my state to Idaho.
Fn spud heads leave!
Appreciate you sharing your position
Not gonna happen...
The Daily Show covered this.
You are probably right
Interesting!
Will never happen...
Okay 💁♂️
And can us in western Washington please join Canada
🤔
Funny how the "if you don't like the country, move out" argument dies as soon as you think you could just take it with you! I guess Eugene should just take some of springfield because the river separating them is in the wrong spot. Hell, Newport might as well just take Waldport because some people would prefer that, and that's all that matters . Maybe we can trade puerto rico for greenland! Or just declare the panama canal sucks and needs to be ours. If we talk loud enough, we'll just get whatever we want!
Y'all ain't goin' anywhere until you pack up and leave. Not saying I want you gone at all.
I don’t the this movement occurs. Seems far fetched. Thank you for commenting
moving over state line (former Oregon to Idaho)
1: car licensing, tabs, drivers license and 4% tax on the value of your car will have to be paid, insurance adjustments need to be made..
2: Property tax, Insurance etc need to be adjusted. Some insurance is only for oregon so you will need to find new insurance.
3: anyone with a business will have to have property value appraised for Idaho Tax. and any Licenses will need to be changed (involves passing test ..again). Teachers need to get an Idaho license.. Real estate, hair cutting, restaurants have different licensing requirements.
This is going to be very expensive for all involved. There will need to be programs to defer or eliminate some of this expense of many will go out of business in this bad economy.. maybe tax credits for everyone transitioning.
Great points. It doesn’t just magically happen.
Still worth every penny to be out of Oregon. I know it won't ever happen but I hope it does
@@dansmith3507totally agree. I lived in seattle years ago, now in portland.. both are corrupt today.. I jokingly call them "sister cities: Sodom and Gomorrah". once your out of Oregon, don't look back.. LOL
I would say you need to do your homework. 1st, there is no sales tax on a vehicle you own. 2nd title and registration are $14.00 for title, and for my truck, which has the equivalent of a T plate (over 10k gvw), is 80 bucks a year, including Idaho parks pass. If you are unfamiliar with that no day use fees at state parks. Licensing is take a written test and you are squared away. I lived in Oregon for most of my 53 years and the best ting I ever did was leave Oregon. I was able to expand my business and live in a place where common sense rules are how things are done. I pay less in tax even with a sales tax than I did in taxes in Oregon.
@@raycharters6723 no sales tax in Oregon.. I moved from Idaho in the 1980s to washington with a 1 year old car, Washington required me to pay the appraised value of my car.. i had to pay washington's 10% tax to license my car in Washington, even though i had already paid the Idaho sales tax of 4%.. it has to do with the value of the car when you change states..
Cowlitz ,Lewis , eastern washington join Idaho. Clark county can join portland. Nw washington can become their own state.
Haha there ya go
Let's join Canada instead!
🤣
Silliness. Time for adults to put their big boy/girl pants on and discuss political differences.
@@benbiggs5815 there ya go
Some may wish. I don't care to live in Idaho
@@neilsunn probably ain’t happening
Don't want to live in oregon? Simple just move to idaho.
Yep
If people could afford to buy, in Idaho, a similar property they would have to selling in Oregon, they would. If you own a large track of land with improvements on it in Oregon its likely something akin to it in Idaho does not exist or is to expensive.
Yes, because everyone, but ESPECIALLY generational ranchers/farmers, can just pack up their pick-ups and uproot their families so easily.
Try harder if you're going to enter into a mature, adult conversation.
Otherwise, don't say anything at all.
@@ryker900travels7 Um, if you’re hoping to sell a plot in Ukiah and buy in Sun Valley, good luck with that.
My sister owns on the east side of Portland and could easily move to Boise (where that rush of two years ago already crested). Sun Valley, maybe, maybe not. Somewhere like Gooding or Jerome? C’mon.
I lived in Idaho for 15 years and I know most of the state would be easy access… and what isn’t. So I’m curious which apples and oranges you’re comparing.
@@ryker900travels7you think so?
Bet the pot smokers in Bend are not too jazzed about that possibility..........LOL
Ha! Bend would stay in Oregon 😆👌
I moved to Bend because it’s a blueish city in a blue state! I don’t want to live in Idaho! I hope it takes many years and/or Bend stays in the west.
@@elysewright9205 I don’t see it happening any time soon.
what part of California did you flee from?