As others have noticed, the framerate is too low with the likes of motion blur when you move your hands or a model quickly. Also the auto-focus frequently 'breathes' causing the image to momentarily zoom in then back out again so it might be worth locking focus. I don't know the resolution you recorded but TH-cam is playing back at 720p for a camera is (almost) capable 4k. The audio quality perfectly acceptable. With some tweaks to the video I think it will be usable but right now your iPhone footage is superior IMHO. Thank you for running through your engine shed.
Yes you’re right. I think it’s good for the price, and the points like macro would make me favour it over other webcams. But for my type of work, quality is key. So the iPhone will be used going forward. I actually record at 4k, but the upload is too long to put it on TH-cam at 4k as our internet is so weak. I think I’d use 4k for special videos, like looking at the finished layout wtc
@@williamsworkshopuk on normal videos I use a microphone plugged into the laptop and overlay it onto the shots. It’s very time consuming but I think leads to better videos
@@GWilliamsonModels it definitely does and I appreciate how much work it is, having tried it on some of my own I go with live commentary for simplicity’s sake!
George… If it’s any help to you, if you really want to make Talyllyn No.3, Chivers Finelines make a white metal kit of Sir Haydn for 009. It uses an Ibertren Cuckoo chassis. I believe they are both good quality!
Thankyou, yes I’ve built a few Chivers Sir Haydn, but I’ll find it annoying if Bachmann release sir Handel with a good looking chassis with big wheels! I’m happy to wait it out
The “macro” is interesting, in that it’s just a loupe. It’s what I use to look at my film up close since it’s small. You basically put the film right up to it. Also interesting that the loupe apparently covers up the microphone.
not going to comment on the camera as my thoughts appeared to have been covered off in better technical terms than I could ever manage. on to the trains fantastic fleet! would appreciate thoughts on the peace/kato motorised chassis and possible scratch build subjects. cheers stu
The frame rate issue could.be because you may need a faster usb port on your laptop..the macro hood gives the ideal distance to focus. The iPhone comparison...well for a start it is far more than just a camera. It also will have heaps more post processing g power. And as for the price...iPhone is priced like that because it is. Not because of cost.
I found the sound noticeably improved when you swapped to the Benq camera. As others have mentioned there was a bit of a delay with focusing with movement. BTW what is the Autoglym product and the blue sprayer on your workbench? I hope you aren't taking Autoglym medicinally for your cold - it could be Windowlene and My Big Fat Greek Wedding all over again.
That’s interesting that the sounds better for you, I found it more distorted, but if I could use my microphone alongside it, it would help. I’m in in the room at the moment, but if it’s autoglym, it’ll be ‘glue and tar remover’ or something like that. I use it to remove old sellotape from plastic models. The blue spray bottle has water in it now. I’ve got a clear one that matches, which I use to spray IPA
@@GWilliamsonModels Thanks for the tip on removing sellotape adhesive from plastic kits. I have had that problem with a couple of second hand kits and hadn't thought of something like that. Good to know it doesn't affect the plastic.
19:00 I'm surprised you don't have the Baguleys, a 3-D print awaiting attention is the only 009 loco I own at present, if i pull my finder out i'll run it on Lawrie's mine at LMM fest
Happy to see Rheneas as there my favirote SR engine! Ive also finally beat you to it on a model! Ive stripped & re-done my Edward Thomas to look more accurate. Id love to show it to you some time.
@@GWilliamsonModels hmm I would have to say maybe talyllyn's body shells and dolgoc (can't spell) as I like both classes of engines, But to be fair all of them look amazing
@@tnpjamesproductions talyllyn is the Bachmann Skarloey, though I’m currently waiting for Westcliff works to release an accurate replacement body for it.. Dolgoch, Edward Thomas and the Corris tattoo are fourdees bodies, Douglas is form westcliff works, and Tom rolt was from shapeways.
FBI Stuff!! Love it George! TBH I think the iPhone does a better job. Focus, quality and sound is frankly better! Movement is a bit scratchy and not as fluid. Hope you all feel better soon!!
Framerate and audio quality appears to be a downgrade (especially with the lens on regarding the latter) compared with the Iphone. However, the close up lens does its job very well!
Thankyou, yes I’d agree with that. Though as I said in the video, it’s a bit harsh to compare a £160 camera to a £1800 phone. For the future I’ll be back on the iPhone, but it was worth a go!
To be honest, I’d say that camera is quite a big downgrade from an iPhone, it’s really designed for zoom meetings etc as a document camera so won’t be very good quality, it also has quite a low frame rate by the look of it, hence the jerkiness. The audio from it sounds quite heavily compressed too. I would stick with the iPhone myself, they have very good cameras and mics. Sorry for being negative but I just don’t think it will do you any favours Do love the models though!
No I really appreciate that. I think I’d agree though, back on the iPhone for the future videos. I was a good idea, but I’ve watched the video back on TH-cam to check it and can’t see it being a benefit for close up work. Thanks for your feedback
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As others have noticed, the framerate is too low with the likes of motion blur when you move your hands or a model quickly. Also the auto-focus frequently 'breathes' causing the image to momentarily zoom in then back out again so it might be worth locking focus. I don't know the resolution you recorded but TH-cam is playing back at 720p for a camera is (almost) capable 4k. The audio quality perfectly acceptable. With some tweaks to the video I think it will be usable but right now your iPhone footage is superior IMHO. Thank you for running through your engine shed.
Agreed with on all points
Yes you’re right. I think it’s good for the price, and the points like macro would make me favour it over other webcams. But for my type of work, quality is key. So the iPhone will be used going forward. I actually record at 4k, but the upload is too long to put it on TH-cam at 4k as our internet is so weak. I think I’d use 4k for special videos, like looking at the finished layout wtc
@@GWilliamsonModels do you record commentary afterwards on a microphone or do you do it live during each shot?
@@williamsworkshopuk on normal videos I use a microphone plugged into the laptop and overlay it onto the shots. It’s very time consuming but I think leads to better videos
@@GWilliamsonModels it definitely does and I appreciate how much work it is, having tried it on some of my own I go with live commentary for simplicity’s sake!
Nice to see the line-up. Thanks.
Cheers for watching
George… If it’s any help to you, if you really want to make Talyllyn No.3, Chivers Finelines make a white metal kit of Sir Haydn for 009. It uses an Ibertren Cuckoo chassis. I believe they are both good quality!
Thankyou, yes I’ve built a few Chivers Sir Haydn, but I’ll find it annoying if Bachmann release sir Handel with a good looking chassis with big wheels! I’m happy to wait it out
@@GWilliamsonModelsyeah, I have also found that the small wheels look a bit unpleasant😅
Thanks for showing off your stable of locomotives, neat!
Thanks! It’s coming on
The “macro” is interesting, in that it’s just a loupe. It’s what I use to look at my film up close since it’s small. You basically put the film right up to it.
Also interesting that the loupe apparently covers up the microphone.
Yes you’re right, I’m not sure why you’d have the microphone somewhere that it would get blocked
not going to comment on the camera as my thoughts appeared to have been covered off in better technical terms than I could ever manage. on to the trains fantastic fleet! would appreciate thoughts on the peace/kato motorised chassis and possible scratch build subjects. cheers stu
Cheers! I actually haven’t tried the peco/kato stuff, but have heard good things about them!
The frame rate issue could.be because you may need a faster usb port on your laptop..the macro hood gives the ideal distance to focus.
The iPhone comparison...well for a start it is far more than just a camera. It also will have heaps more post processing g power. And as for the price...iPhone is priced like that because it is. Not because of cost.
I’ll be sticking to the iPhone I think
I found the sound noticeably improved when you swapped to the Benq camera. As others have mentioned there was a bit of a delay with focusing with movement. BTW what is the Autoglym product and the blue sprayer on your workbench? I hope you aren't taking Autoglym medicinally for your cold - it could be Windowlene and My Big Fat Greek Wedding all over again.
That’s interesting that the sounds better for you, I found it more distorted, but if I could use my microphone alongside it, it would help.
I’m in in the room at the moment, but if it’s autoglym, it’ll be ‘glue and tar remover’ or something like that. I use it to remove old sellotape from plastic models.
The blue spray bottle has water in it now. I’ve got a clear one that matches, which I use to spray IPA
@@GWilliamsonModels Thanks for the tip on removing sellotape adhesive from plastic kits. I have had that problem with a couple of second hand kits and hadn't thought of something like that. Good to know it doesn't affect the plastic.
This year, no. 6 is getting a new pink livery
That would raise some eyebrows!
Every time I see that quarry hunslet my mind wonders to what if Rough Pup from the Talyllyn's museum was regauged and ran their rails haha
That would be an interesting one!
19:00 I'm surprised you don't have the Baguleys, a 3-D print awaiting attention is the only 009 loco I own at present, if i pull my finder out i'll run it on Lawrie's mine at LMM fest
Brooks 3D Baguley is due out soon in TR condition, and I’ll be making them then! The Bachmann RTR offerings are the wrong size for the TR
@@GWilliamsonModels I cannot remember who made the 3D print I have, it was a late night eBay purchase
Happy to see Rheneas as there my favirote SR engine! Ive also finally beat you to it on a model! Ive stripped & re-done my Edward Thomas to look more accurate. Id love to show it to you some time.
Pop it on your channel and I’ll take a look!
I'll try to once I aquire a chassis! & many thanks for doing such!
Great! Why did the macrolens affect the sound, do you think?
Yeah I noticed that. I wonder if the sounds picked up through the front, and the marco lens covered it?
Are we gonna see 2 Bachmann Baugley’s at any point?
Nope, the Bachmann Baugleys are the wrong model for the TR ones. I will be building them from a kit soon though
Do you have the links for the model bodies shell from?
Which one in particular?
@@GWilliamsonModels hmm I would have to say maybe talyllyn's body shells and dolgoc (can't spell) as I like both classes of engines,
But to be fair all of them look amazing
@@tnpjamesproductions talyllyn is the Bachmann Skarloey, though I’m currently waiting for Westcliff works to release an accurate replacement body for it..
Dolgoch, Edward Thomas and the Corris tattoo are fourdees bodies, Douglas is form westcliff works, and Tom rolt was from shapeways.
FBI Stuff!! Love it George! TBH I think the iPhone does a better job. Focus, quality and sound is frankly better! Movement is a bit scratchy and not as fluid. Hope you all feel better soon!!
Yes I’d agree. I’ll stick to the iPhone. Fun to try out though
Camera seems jerky and not always in focus compared to the phone.
Yes it is, and too be fair, whilst the iPhone has anti shake, it’s still not completely smooth. I’m hoping to buy a gimble to sort that
I'm not an expert but as others have said your IPhone is better quality I think.
Yes I agree
16:29 bless you.
Thankyou
25:25 I have been listening . . .
25:26 . . . big ears
Cheers
Do you know 5.5 scale how do you do it
It’s 1:55 scale, half way between 4mm and 7mm, and runs on 12mm track. If you’re on Facebook search for ‘5.5mm railway modellers’
@@GWilliamsonModels thank you
Framerate and audio quality appears to be a downgrade (especially with the lens on regarding the latter) compared with the Iphone.
However, the close up lens does its job very well!
Thankyou, yes I’d agree with that. Though as I said in the video, it’s a bit harsh to compare a £160 camera to a £1800 phone. For the future I’ll be back on the iPhone, but it was worth a go!
Personally I think you should stick with the iPhone, the quality on it seems to be much better… Neat video idea though!!
Cheers, yes i think I will
7:42 did you get married at the Talyllyn? I can see a headboard with Mr & Mrs on. BTW, I think I know Alec from West Cliff Works..
We did indeed. We had no2 when it was in red, with the vintage coaches. Lovely day
To be honest, I’d say that camera is quite a big downgrade from an iPhone, it’s really designed for zoom meetings etc as a document camera so won’t be very good quality, it also has quite a low frame rate by the look of it, hence the jerkiness. The audio from it sounds quite heavily compressed too. I would stick with the iPhone myself, they have very good cameras and mics.
Sorry for being negative but I just don’t think it will do you any favours
Do love the models though!
No I really appreciate that. I think I’d agree though, back on the iPhone for the future videos. I was a good idea, but I’ve watched the video back on TH-cam to check it and can’t see it being a benefit for close up work. Thanks for your feedback
@@GWilliamsonModels good to hear, thanks
Phone camera is certainly far better
Yes I agree