Ancient Music Genres Explained | by Lina Palera and LyreAcademy.com
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Music [...] gives a soul to the Universe, wings to the mind, and life to everything.
― Plato
Have you ever thought about why some melodies sound more... "ancient" to you? Have you ever heard about the three genres of ancient Greek music? Or, more specifically, about the most mysterious and controversial of them all?
Lina Palera, Head of Music Programs at LyreAcademy.com, discusses the concept of Aristoxenus' tetrachords and the three genres of the ancient world, combining theory with practice while explaining why the enharmonic genus was the "highest and most difficult for the senses"!
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🖋 Title: Decoding the Music Genres of Ancient Greece
⏱ Duration: 7min
🎬 Film d'auteur: Nikolaos Koumartzis
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I saw a guy, I think it was Brian Kay strumming a lyre like a guitar with mutes and tonal melody notes, and now I hear the enharmonic and even uses of harmonic minor for a chromatic effect. This is most heavy metal instrument ever. No one is talking about this 🤯. Awesome lesson though! Thank you for this! This brings me new ideas!
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This is so amazing. I read Proclus' Timaeus commentary recently and was really lost in the part where he was explaining the metaphysics of musical modes, and I feel like this has improved my understanding. The instrument sounds phenomenal. 💞
Thank you, Kaye, for your heartwarming words! Lina is a gifted lyre instructor, and she is doing an amazing work along her colleagues at LyreAcademy.com (lyreacademy.com/).
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Thank You Very Much for making the reference to Proclus' Commentary on Timaeus! Would it be possible to give a reference to a paragraph number or page. I have th e whole book and it is a great reading undertaking.
The 1/4 tone recommended by the clip seems to be off the mark...1.because it sounds unpleasant when applied to melos/melody 2.the micro tone used in Arabic music is rather 1/3 of a tone.Arabic theory , is a direct inheritor of Ancient Greek Music according to Al Farabi whose writings are shown in Dictionaire du Conservatoir Delagrave Paris 1922. I have Proclus' writings and I will attempt to find the material you mentioned...although there are other ancient sources that give a wealth of information.
😳 ohhhh my what is the tune during the end of the video it is exquisite!!! Soooo beautiful if I could play it
Thank you Beloved Brother!
You can find one like the one in the video at www.luthieros.com !
Thank you so much 🥰
3:35 Could be just me, does it sound akin to black metal to anyone else too?
For us, Greeks, is a very common modern traditional sound. So, we guess it has to do with the music experiences that each one of us has in the past. :)
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This is a wonderful presentation of the genres - clear concise explanations with playing to demonstrate. Thank you!
Glad you enjoyed it, Mary! More explanatory videos from the LyreAcademy.com team will premiere soon, so stay tuned! :)
I just started to learn about Aristoxenus' music theory and this video is much helpful!! Thank you so much💕
So glad you find this video helpful!
Amazing! I have been using LyreAcademy for a while and it's amazing. Adding information like this makes learning the Lyre so much more exciting!
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Beyond beautiful!
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Thank you, this is super interesting!!!!
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Great Tutorial!🤩🤩🤩
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This music is really beautiful.
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The frenquency measurements for the pitches on the tanbur some say are rather 1/3 of a whole tone. This Whole Tone is Pythagorean and is made up of 9 Pythagorean Commas. The tanbur is that used in classical Ottoman music and Rauf Yekta Bey wrote in the 1800s that the markings on the neck allow playing the pitches of Byzantine music as well. Byzantine music modes HXOI are based on Ancient Modes that comprise the Lydian and the Phrygian, both of which are from the two Anatolian populations whose ruins and inscriptions can be seen by visitors. Byzantine music served as basis for Ottoman theory. The tanbur itself is most likely of Anatolian origin. It has a very long and thin neck with 3 pairs of strings and one drone unpaired string. It is marked with 34 divisions on the first octave. Evgenios Voulgaris in Greece plays the bowed tanbur.
Thanks for the great details, Alex.
EYXAPICTW PARA POLY for showing the 3 Genres in a simplified Way! I am very curious to learn to.use them on a Celtic lever harp...i hope the harp will stay in tune.
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Thank you Lina xx
Thanks for tuning in! :)
"Ancient Greek Blues" isn't it?
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can anyone point me toward more melodies using the enharmonic genus?
Hi, Evander. You can find more information about the Enharmonic genus by ready the work of Aristoxenus of Tarentum, the Greek Peripatetic philosopher, and pupil of Aristotle. You can find his work under the title "The Harmonics of Aristoxenus. Elementa harmonica" or "Elements of Harmony / Harmonics"!
hello which lyre is this? thank you
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@@SEIKILO thank you I hesitate to buy the Aphrodite or Hermes lyre, I would love to have a video from each one to decide , thank you
I saw a bad attempt at transforming a usual accordion to an Egyptian accordion[as heard mainly in the Arabic music played in Egypt]by lowering certain pitches by exactly 1/4 tone using an electronic tuner with a minutely calibrated readout. It was a disaster that ruined the instrument. If it is done it s done by ear. Quantum Leap Ra software has a virtual instrument collection and several Arabic tunings, and Persian tunings. Each of these tunings is used for a number of modes. To play most of the modes all these tunings must be available. On the oud there are no frets and some pitches are played by a short glissando going thru the right pitch quickly. If each used pitch would be marked on the oud s short neck the spaces would be terribly small for a finger. That is Why the tanbur with a very long neck can have most of the necessary pitches with markings wide enough for a fingertip. There are more accidentals in Byzantine or Ottoman music than in Arabic music[ and in Persian music less than in Arabic music].
Thanks for the information, Alex.
@SEIKILO that interval of 1/4 of a tone is rather 1/3 ...as shown by Hertz meter measurements taken from mideast instruments...Al Farabi wrote that some of the Makams of Arabs come from Ancient Modes whose names are given. This material was reproduced in Dictionaire du Conservatoir, Paris Editions Delagrave 1922. Moreover Raouf Yekta Bey wrote that on the Ottoman tanbur the markings[ligatures]allow the playing of Byzantine music. Mr Evgenios Voulgaris who plays the bowed tanbur[yayli tanbur] can provide explanations.The Byzantine modes[HXOI] are the hypo forms of some of the Ancient Modes as shown by Bourgault Ducoudray in Etudes sur la Musique Eccesiastique Grecque, Hachette, Paris 1877.
@@SEIKILOthe Ottoman Makams are direct inheritors of Byzantine modes, but there are makams that have intervals based on units such as the Herder comma. The Pythagorean comma is generally used to mark the whole tone interval[9 commas]and the 4 accidentals used in the Ottoman system. There would be a need of 13 different tonal spacings/tunings/temperaments/keyboards for the whole Byzantine repertoire to be played. The different kinds of units for building up the accidentals or intonations of some makams stems from Modes coming from different cultures...