“The car was probably taken to the track”, dude, you realize your trying to buy a used type r, how do you think anyone is going to drive it? There was nothing wrong with that car
It has the reputation as being the best sports car you can buy in it’s class it beat older r35 gtrs on a track. With that rep people are going to drive it hard. It’s like an sti which are also typically beat on. You don’t want a used one if you can avoid it.
Absolutely agree at 1st u was like new type r wow but after a sit back and reflect I feel it's to in your face and ott with cosmetic features and just over designed on the car amongst some down falls in side the cockpit
Dont settle cameron, I wanted a black 2020 si sedan with the black rims for no more than 28k I found mine at less than 26k 96 miles away. Keep searching man you'll find it
I was on the market for a 2020 si but the dealers near by were marking them up close to 30k I offer 27 and they said no, so I picked up a 2020 Wrx for 27 instead.
@@Saenz95111 After my 200 mile roadtrip to get my type R, I changed those tires out shortly after. I bought it in November and I live in PA. They are summer tires and you can't use them in colder weather or they will crack for sure. I still have them in my basement and they have less than 300 miles on them.
The tire and alignment shouldn’t matter. The stock tires have about a 10k life and alignment are usually just done by dealers for free. The rotors and brakes are the weird parts
Totally agree. I got 9500 out of mine with normal driving as the stock conti’s are really soft. Had an alignment check done as a matter of course when new tyres were fitted. I’m now at 11800 and discs are mint and pads are half worn. Sounds like the car you tested was tracked.
Tires brakes and rotors go quick on this car. The maintenance you mentioned is normal. High performance = high maintenance. The rear brakes go quick because the ecu uses the vsa to brake individual rear tires to rotate the car while turning. Good luck
When you do go to buy one, go at the end of the month. Car dealerships are so much more likely to work on a deal at the end of the month than any other time (unless there's some sales promotion going)
When it comes to buying sports cars like Type R’s, it may be better to get it brand new. This way, you won’t have to worry about it being abused or having mods you don’t like. These are the types of cars that people abuse like a red headed stepchild.
Mine has 18,662 miles, new tires and new brakes and alignment. Completely stock 2017 never tracked, original owner. All that is normal for the type r it has summer tires that last about 12,000 miles says on the window sticker. Also performance brakes that create a lot of dust and wear quick. I also resurface rotors when replacing any brake pads all normal maintenance..17 year Honda technician. I would be more worried about the transmission than anything else, make sure their is no gear lockouts. By the way i put a 2019 radio in my 2017 swapped right in.
You did the right thing CAM, the best way to buy is always stating that your not ready to buy today even after they've lowered their offer, then, as you tell them your leaving they usually ask what you want to pay, or they come with their best and final. Good job!
Most R’s have small ridges in the rotors after minimal miles. Mine has them with 18k. Work fine if you don’t mind how they look. Surprised someone resurfaced cross drilled rotors. Most shops won’t because they don’t want to damage their equipment.
Normally for a type r the rear brakes go first, and the factory 20inch tires don’t last long at all. If they put new tires on it why not get an alignment. As a type R owner this is all normal. Comparing an Si to a TypeR isn’t fair.
Agreed rear brakes are used with the stock VSA and stability control they go pretty quick never tracked mine 12k on the odo and the are in the yellow. Tires if you get anything past 15k on the stock tires is pure luck. Now in order to buy a preowned type R you do have to be cautious because not everybody buys them to baby sit them
@@jeffj1588 well with any honda performance car even Si you have to be careful he is just been extra cautious. I absolutely don’t blame him a blown motor on a type r is pretty expensive
@@joesautospa5736 wouldn’t the engine come with at least a 5 year warranty from new. I have a 2017 R and it’s still on warranty, and it wasn’t extended. Engine still runs perfect and I do beat on it. It’s build to take it. But that’s my 2 cents lol
Yup! Good Job walking out. I highly recommend if you can get a 2019 Type R the head unit is faster and you have a volume knob instead of a touch screen.. Idk if you like the 2020's with all the extra accessories and safety features I would consider those as well.. The Type R wheels are 20" wheels btw! I know crazy on a civic. That is weird that the rotors were resurfaced but.. It makes sense that the tires were replaced because the stock tires only last 10k miles depending on how you drive. It says that on the window sticker. Yes, for the Type R with the rear pads it's common to change around close to 20k miles.. Its the way abs works for the car.. It uses the rear pads in cornering by itself.. its weird.. It works amazing.. The different mods does effect the suspension dampening but it also affects the throttle and the boost! I would say this... The Type R Stock has no characteristics.. What I mean.. Its hard to hear you running through the gears and hearing the pssh sound letting off the gas.. Every time you mod the car you unlock a characteristic of the car and the car gets better and you start to see why the car is so special and the potential it has.. When you mod the car with an K&n filter or aftermarket intake You will notice.. Comfort - There is barely any spool sound and the psi is turn down/hp cut and you only hear the engine noise and its better for gas mileage.. Sport - default mode every time you start the car.. You can hear the spool sound and its like a middle range power band... suspension a little tighter R+ mode - The suspension gets tight and the steering is very direct.. The engine and the boost sound gets louder and your in the full potential of all the power the Type R produce and this unlock the trq that the car has.. When you drive the car do this.. start at 3k rpms roll into the gas slowly to like 3,400 rpms and floor it.. You will fly back into your chair.. It's a little bit different on how you drive the type r but you get use to it.. When you mod the car it builds characteristics and has drama that you wont get when the car is stock.. That's why so many people mod the type r.. One of my Subscribers let me drive his type r with a tune and exhaust and intake and I fell in love... Bought a Type R... When I got the car stock... I was disappointed.. It was very restrictive with no drama and characteristics.. Now I love it with all the mods I've done to the car so far. *Heads up* The Type R gas tank is not big.. its only a 12.5 gallon tank.. You will be at the gas station more but its cheaper fill ups.. Remember don't always drive in R+ mode if you want to save gas because it turns up the boost and unlock the potential etc.. I hope all this info helps! I love to support our Honda/Acura creators on TH-cam as I am myself. I can't wait to see when you get a Type R and what vision you have for it. Keep up the videos! 🔥*My bad for the long paragraph I hope this helps* If you want to buy a new Type R for msrp! Just keep looking! They're out there! Trust me
None of those things are weird for a CTR. They boost 21psi stock. Rear pads are early wear. Tires have to be replaced 10-12k. I feel like I learn less every time I watch one of these videos.
@@Camhill182 it means be humble, car has swirls? Guess what your Si clear coat is destroyed. The dealer is going to buy your car and sell it to someone else it’s a cycle and you need to be in it.
Stock tires last 10k for most and when you put on new tires you should get alignment. Nothing wrong with turning brake rotors. Unless you’re getting advice with Type R owners everything is hearsay.
My 2018 type r never tracked and daily driven needed rear pads around 17k miles - and I got an alignment at 10k miles after stock tires wore out and got new tires put on ... seems legit to me
Hey Cameron, have you driven a lightweight, balanced, mid-ship, pure RWD sports car focused on handling and response? Ex. ND Miata, BRZ/FR-S/86, S2000, Lotus Elise, Porsche Cayman, Mazda RX-8?
Hey man, enjoyed the video regardless. Super excited for you to get the Type R whenever that may be. Once you find the right one, you’ll know. Keep it up!
Was in the same dilemma Cameron!! Ended up biting the bullet and buying a new one but thankfully I found it for $500 over MSRP here in NJ! Keep up the search, I know you’ll find the perfect one ✊🏾
Cold call every dealership in states outside of Cali, for instance, I called PA dealerships Bc va all had markup. I googled dealership in pa and went down the list calling all of them. Even if they did or didn’t have one I said I saw a type r on ur site, still available? If so what price? Then they told me yes and at this price. Or one coming tomorrow, etc.. got me my 21 for msrp at valley Honda in PA
Just google Honda Nevada and call all of them. Or Oregon honda dealerships , etc.. Most important thing is calling all of them and saying u saw one on their site. The ones I called in PA were surprised I knew Bc they were hiding it from online and acted surprise. Worth a shot as it worked for me
36 k is a bit overpriced for sure. the type R is amazing. the 6 speed trans is smoother than any other manual trans ive driven. and it has torque down low in pretty much every gear. has a great steering feel as well. the only thing that needs to be changed is the 20s need to be replaced with 19s with a little more tire because the 20s ride rough with such a small wheelbase
I have a friend who has a type R and they have had the tires replaced 3 times already and the breaks twice, the problem are the big ass wheels it has and the thing profile
Try buying one brand new for msrp It’s hard but the are out there Thats your best bet i own a type r and i beat the shit out of it like most people do For some reason the rear brakes always wear out first and the oem tires last about 10k if you are lucky...i also had to get an alignment twice because of potholes 🤷🏻♂️
100% you did the right thing. It’s exciting buying a “new car” and you can justify it up and down all day if you really want too. Walking away is always the best strategy. Worst case the car sells the next day. Who cares. There will be other Type R’s. What it does do is give you time to think. Chances are when you get home you’ll be thinking a little more clear about everything. Also, in my experience they will usually call you back. The price may not come down a ton but you’d be surprised what they will give you at times to move the car. And if they don’t then keep looking for someone else that will. It took me years learning the hard way. It’s always disappointing not getting it especially driving all that way, but I promise you you’d be way more disappointed if the car had issues and you’re stuck with a 600 dollar a month pmt! You’ll find the right car. Great insight with the process though!
Cam I'm going to look at a new 2020 blue Si sedan tomorrow, wish me luck. I've been waiting like 2 years to get an Si. Hope you get the car you want too.
I agree. The alignment shouldn’t be too much of a concern. The roads are bad which can definitely affect the alignment pretty quick. The stock tires wear fast. The brakes, replace them.
Traded a '17 Si (bought w/300 miles on it) in on my new '18 Type R. Never looked back. Drove both on the track as they are performance cars. Thirty minutes to black out the red stripe on the ground effects. 19" forged light weight NSX wheels. Sticky factory tires can wear out in 10,000 miles (who would have guessed?). Funny thing is i had to drive 600 miles to Northern California of all places to get a decent deal.
Just put deposit down on a 2021 Champion White, will go get that next weekend. Si to Type R, hope I will not miss my red 2015 Si coupe. Love your video man!
@@Camhill182 Good luck! The dealer in Cleveland I called is 6hrs away from me, with some factory add up about $1000 and a “paint detailing package” for $900, 40k is what they offer me and I’m already happy to take that. Hope you can find a better deal!
It was definitely tracked, and the rear pads probably needed replacement because the owner probably used the parking brake after beating on it at the track (when the pads are hot and you use the parking brake, the rear pads + rotors can get stuck together)
I appreciate the feedback. I was trying to be transparent. Im not entitled at all. Grew up in a middle class family and worked many jobs. I’m just not going to pretend to my subscribers that this car is perfect and should be on a pedestal is all. I do like it and am excited to buy one!
Yeah can’t stand the stock 20” wheels and the stock tires last less than 10k miles. I swapped mine out within the month for a nice set of 18”s and a longer lasting tire.
I have a 2020 type r paid over sticker price but anyways I normally dont comment on videos but the tires only last like 10,000 miles nd i got 6500 so far they almost need to b replaced even i never race my car or track it on the window sticker it tells u tires last less then 10,000 miles good luck
Got it! Thank you for the info! A lot of type r owners have commented the same thing. I should have consulted with you guys before going to look at it. Do you think I should go back and buy it?
Tbh if u have a Doubt about tht car in your mind tht it been beaten up nd the car is still about 35k for 4k more u can get a brand new car nd end of the day u know everything about a brand new car if u can find one at msrp i paid 6k over msrp I didn’t handle tht right soo c if u can find one quick or buy tht 2018 still under factory warranty so u good!!
As long as demand for these cars outweigh the numbers, and they wear an R badge, just assume it's been used for its purpose people. Not that it's gonna bother the car anyway. I also think the wheels are an inch to big on these things visually, also way to easy to damage a wheel.
Yeah they’re slow in a straight line in stock form. They’re like 14 second cars in the 1/4 mile. But with some bolt ons and e85 you can easily get it into the 12’s but they handle great at a track and around corners.
@@ZFA1738 Like Cameron said I was talking about the head unit, I do agree with you that the Type R shines on the corners more because of its handling. I have a 2019 Type R and it's awesome, gas mileage really surprised me too lol. A friend of mine actually taught me how to drive manual on his Subaru WRX and I gotta say, I almost bought one but I wanted the trunk space of the hatchback
@@Camhill182 Oh I forgot to mention, I believe it was the right choice for you to leave the dealership, two people who had the car already; you don't know what they did to the car. Plus, you already have multiple backup plans to get a Type R and that's awesome! Can't wait for you to get one and see what you do with the car! Also, there are a few things that I think would annoy you about the car and just wanted to let you know beforehand. The breaks get very squeaky because I believe they are track brakes, a lot of people switched the brakes to street brakes and it doesn't squeak anymore. There will be a ton of brake dust too, also, if the wheels you want to get are backordered and you still have the stock wheels on, putting on 255/35/20 tires helped a lot because the ride quality does get better, the titan 7s I want is out of stock so I decided to get bigger tires and they don't rub or anything
That is normal on the tires and brakes btw. Don't expect the stock contis to last very long, for some reason this car will go through rear pads sooner than the fronts and if people sit on the hot brakes at a light or use the brake hold feature a lot it can warp the fronts a bit. I bought a used blue CTR coincidentally with similar miles and the dealership threw new tires, and brakes on it. Car has been good to me
Type r rear brakes always wear out fast since it uses it normally during cornering, the grooved rotors are all normal on any pre 2020 type r. Tires lasted me 8k city driving with no track. That 2018 R is completely normal. I wouldn’t have machined the rotors though just get an aftermarket set.
Supposedly the type R rear brakes wear more than the front ones and that’s normal on those specific cars. The shop I bring mine to that specializes in Honda/Acura’s relayed that to me
You driving around there brings back good and bad memories,I loved the weather there,but screw that traffic,I lived in San Jose then Stockton,I say don’t buy a used one,save your money get your own
Awesome video. I was glad you walked. Was definitely tracked a couple times When I bought my 2015 grand Cherokee in 17. I started to look in Reno area and was able to save 4-5k or even Oregon. If you get it at a dealer you can have them add our tax percentage to the loan.
I bought a used 2018 Type R. According the forums and Facebook groups. The rear brake get eaten up pretty fast due to how invasive the traction control is. Some people go through rear brakes in 5K.
Type R also eats through tires, I destroyed my front tires within 7000 miles of street driving before I even did any track days. That was just from hard driving on backroads. I did 3 track days on existing rear tires (rotated to front) and those are nearly trashed as well. Be ready to replace at least front tires at 10000 miles if you drive the car hard. I recommend replacing the front 2 tires (which will be the first to go) and rotate those to the rear....and repeat the process when the front tires go bad again... this way you only have to replace 2 tires at a time. Anyway, good luck with getting a Type R, I recommend you go for the 2019 Type R instead of 2018, 2019 you get climate control buttons.... not a huge deal but improve things.
Most of the Type Rs had alignment issues from factory. Look into it. The rear pads only last about 15-20K miles I think the main cause is because of the VSA especially if you take it to the track.
If it's around the same price for a new one, I'd say buy a new type r at of course msrp unless money ain't an issue. I got mines for 36k new with 4 miles. Might have to search further out of your area but it'll be an awesome adventure trip. You'll be able to break in the car on your way back home if bought new. Another source of help is joining a few civic type r facebook group if you haven't. Give you lots of info between questions and answers, buying and selling, builds, common problems, and everything else. Good luck!
I bought my type R new, I don't track the car, I drive it as a daily, at 20k miles? The rear brake pads were gone. I had to get my rear brake pads replaced too.
Patience, I was looking for a type R at msrp for awhile - finally found one in Louisiana, a 2020 - bought it at msrp - I live in Miami Florida - had it shipped to me for 600 - just have to be patient and look around
Have you taken a look at the RODO app? Great negotiation tool, I use to own a Honda Hatchback but traded that in for a Kia Stinger GT. Good luck finding the Type R everything will fall in its place.
Recently got a 9th gen si sedan same color as yours. Luckily mine wasn’t involved in a shooting lol. But good luck on your search for the right type-R. I’m debating on getting one later down the line.
Had to change my rear pads on my Type R at 15k miles and front tyres at the same time. I'm sure I read somewhere that's the rear brakes wear quicker if you have adaptive cruise control and use it quite often which I did
@@Tool0GT92 i have friends in neveda that says they have no sales tax. Everything is sold as price listed. I still dont believe it even if others have said so
@@harryl8234 montana has a loophole where if you register the car to a montana llc then you dont pay the sales tax check it out its everywhere. Thats how supercar owners get away with not paying taxes on their supercars.
@@Stormtrooper-oc4vn don't know about Montana, but in California if a person tries to register a car to a llc, then no sales tax to the car. But to to have a California llc will cost $800/year.
it’s your money and car so you can be as picky as you want, but you also have to realize everyone doesn’t drive the same. some people use the brakes more frequently and aggressive than others. Also I’ve had people come into my shop with less than 500 miles on their new car and get new tires because they didn’t like the way a certain tire rides 🤷🏽♂️ just throwing that out there brother.
Fam did u go to school in upstate new jersey? I went to kittatinny high and you look just like this dude I used to go to school with. Great call BTW wait it'll be worth it
My goal is to buy a typeR in 2 to 3 years, I always liked the Nissan Z but being front wheel it doesn't work in snow season, i had the money for it but, i went with a honda civic manual transmission. With my budget I found some Hondas si around my area but they were either rebuilt and salvage title, so i chickened out and didn't go for it.
I got 7500 miles out of my stock tires. Four new Indy 500s 255/35/20 with full alignment that were about 55% worn when I just traded it in at 14k miles. Car was barely out but we fixed it. Dealer gave me $31k for it. One front set and two sets of pads in 13k miles. That is normal. I bought my 2019 PMM FK8 in Oct 2019. 700 miles on my 2021 BB FK8 today. This car is extremely heavy in maintenance when pushed at all. If you're buying a Type-R to drive it around and say "I own a Type-R". It's not for you.
Don’t let them pressure you bro. I walked out of a dealership last week, after them not budging on a deal I wanted. Next day they called me to come back for the deal I requested. So for the inconvenience of going back. I even got a better deal. They were very upset 😠 when I drove off with truck.
I think you should wait and look for any Type R with aftermarket parts and wheels out there instead of stock Type R. I saw one Nice 19’s Type R with a lot of performance parts and 18’ Titans wheels sell for $36k from Hot Rides Texas but it already sold it out so fast! The dealer told me that guy trade Type R for Mustang.
“The car was probably taken to the track”, dude, you realize your trying to buy a used type r, how do you think anyone is going to drive it? There was nothing wrong with that car
It has the reputation as being the best sports car you can buy in it’s class it beat older r35 gtrs on a track. With that rep people are going to drive it hard. It’s like an sti which are also typically beat on. You don’t want a used one if you can avoid it.
Smart choice. Never rush a car purchase. I've done it a few times and it's backfired every time.
Absolutely agree at 1st u was like new type r wow but after a sit back and reflect I feel it's to in your face and ott with cosmetic features and just over designed on the car amongst some down falls in side the cockpit
In that position rn 😫
Can confirm, it backfired every time
Honestly the 34k for the 17k miles is pretty good. The hardest thing about searching pre-owned type Rs is the fact that they often get beat on
Exactly
If I was gonna own a Type R for 34k miles I would beat the balls off it.
It doesn't matter really if its low miles but been beat on a little. Thats what they're made for. Along as that oils been changed on time
@@xxfilthydxx1273 I would be more worried about the previous owner not letting it warm up first
Feel bad for anyone buying Camerons old Si that car got trashed.
Dont settle cameron, I wanted a black 2020 si sedan with the black rims for no more than 28k I found mine at less than 26k 96 miles away. Keep searching man you'll find it
I was on the market for a 2020 si but the dealers near by were marking them up close to 30k I offer 27 and they said no, so I picked up a 2020 Wrx for 27 instead.
@@lucian7182 solid choice bro. I’ve got a 2018 limited rex. Stage 2 with maperformance. Fun cars!
Can’t compare your si with the type r, the type r continental tires last about 10k miles.
Yep window sticker said that the tire only last 10k miles depends on how you drive
Facts, I can confirm this.
@@Saenz95111 After my 200 mile roadtrip to get my type R, I changed those tires out shortly after. I bought it in November and I live in PA. They are summer tires and you can't use them in colder weather or they will crack for sure. I still have them in my basement and they have less than 300 miles on them.
to each their own, i personally like the red pinstriping and the wheels
Me too
And it’s free on the CTR. It was a $700 option on a GT3!
@@roypeterka wow really that sucks
I don’t know if the type r is for you man...literally more complaints than anything.
I’m allowed to be honest
He doesn't have to fanboy over it like most people. Better to be honest like he is.
The tire and alignment shouldn’t matter. The stock tires have about a 10k life and alignment are usually just done by dealers for free. The rotors and brakes are the weird parts
Totally agree. I got 9500 out of mine with normal driving as the stock conti’s are really soft. Had an alignment check done as a matter of course when new tyres were fitted. I’m now at 11800 and discs are mint and pads are half worn. Sounds like the car you tested was tracked.
Tires brakes and rotors go quick on this car. The maintenance you mentioned is normal. High performance = high maintenance. The rear brakes go quick because the ecu uses the vsa to brake individual rear tires to rotate the car while turning. Good luck
When you do go to buy one, go at the end of the month. Car dealerships are so much more likely to work on a deal at the end of the month than any other time (unless there's some sales promotion going)
When it comes to buying sports cars like Type R’s, it may be better to get it brand new. This way, you won’t have to worry about it being abused or having mods you don’t like. These are the types of cars that people abuse like a red headed stepchild.
You have the perfect mentality when buying a car. No matter how much you like the car always walk in trying to talk yourself out of buying it.
Thank you! Thats the best way to put it
Mine has 18,662 miles, new tires and new brakes and alignment. Completely stock 2017 never tracked, original owner.
All that is normal for the type r it has summer tires that last about 12,000 miles says on the window sticker. Also performance brakes that create a lot of dust and wear quick.
I also resurface rotors when replacing any brake pads all normal maintenance..17 year Honda technician. I would be more worried about the transmission than anything else, make sure their is no gear lockouts. By the way i put a 2019 radio in my 2017 swapped right in.
Thanks, Chuck!
@@Camhill182 No problem, can’t wait for u to get a type r.
You did the right thing CAM, the best way to buy is always stating that your not ready to buy today even after they've lowered their offer, then, as you tell them your leaving they usually ask what you want to pay, or they come with their best and final. Good job!
Most R’s have small ridges in the rotors after minimal miles. Mine has them with 18k. Work fine if you don’t mind how they look. Surprised someone resurfaced cross drilled rotors. Most shops won’t because they don’t want to damage their equipment.
Fly to Kentucky, one-way. Grab the white CTR for 33k an drive 'er home! :)
Normally for a type r the rear brakes go first, and the factory 20inch tires don’t last long at all. If they put new tires on it why not get an alignment. As a type R owner this is all normal. Comparing an Si to a TypeR isn’t fair.
Fair enough. It still didnt feel right
Agreed rear brakes are used with the stock VSA and stability control they go pretty quick never tracked mine 12k on the odo and the are in the yellow. Tires if you get anything past 15k on the stock tires is pure luck. Now in order to buy a preowned type R you do have to be cautious because not everybody buys them to baby sit them
@@joesautospa5736 I agree, it seems like he’s taking advice from people that don’t even own a type R.
@@jeffj1588 well with any honda performance car even Si you have to be careful he is just been extra cautious. I absolutely don’t blame him a blown motor on a type r is pretty expensive
@@joesautospa5736 wouldn’t the engine come with at least a 5 year warranty from new. I have a 2017 R and it’s still on warranty, and it wasn’t extended. Engine still runs perfect and I do beat on it. It’s build to take it. But that’s my 2 cents lol
Yup! Good Job walking out. I highly recommend if you can get a 2019 Type R the head unit is faster and you have a volume knob instead of a touch screen.. Idk if you like the 2020's with all the extra accessories and safety features I would consider those as well.. The Type R wheels are 20" wheels btw! I know crazy on a civic. That is weird that the rotors were resurfaced but.. It makes sense that the tires were replaced because the stock tires only last 10k miles depending on how you drive. It says that on the window sticker. Yes, for the Type R with the rear pads it's common to change around close to 20k miles.. Its the way abs works for the car.. It uses the rear pads in cornering by itself.. its weird.. It works amazing..
The different mods does effect the suspension dampening but it also affects the throttle and the boost!
I would say this... The Type R Stock has no characteristics.. What I mean.. Its hard to hear you running through the gears and hearing the pssh sound letting off the gas.. Every time you mod the car you unlock a characteristic of the car and the car gets better and you start to see why the car is so special and the potential it has..
When you mod the car with an K&n filter or aftermarket intake You will notice..
Comfort - There is barely any spool sound and the psi is turn down/hp cut and you only hear the engine noise and its better for gas mileage..
Sport - default mode every time you start the car.. You can hear the spool sound and its like a middle range power band... suspension a little tighter
R+ mode - The suspension gets tight and the steering is very direct.. The engine and the boost sound gets louder and your in the full potential of all the power the Type R produce and this unlock the trq that the car has.. When you drive the car do this.. start at 3k rpms roll into the gas slowly to like 3,400 rpms and floor it.. You will fly back into your chair.. It's a little bit different on how you drive the type r but you get use to it..
When you mod the car it builds characteristics and has drama that you wont get when the car is stock.. That's why so many people mod the type r..
One of my Subscribers let me drive his type r with a tune and exhaust and intake and I fell in love... Bought a Type R... When I got the car stock... I was disappointed.. It was very restrictive with no drama and characteristics.. Now I love it with all the mods I've done to the car so far.
*Heads up* The Type R gas tank is not big.. its only a 12.5 gallon tank.. You will be at the gas station more but its cheaper fill ups.. Remember don't always drive in R+ mode if you want to save gas because it turns up the boost and unlock the potential etc..
I hope all this info helps! I love to support our Honda/Acura creators on TH-cam as I am myself. I can't wait to see when you get a Type R and what vision you have for it. Keep up the videos! 🔥*My bad for the long paragraph I hope this helps*
If you want to buy a new Type R for msrp! Just keep looking! They're out there! Trust me
Hey! Wow, thank you for all the info. I really appreciate that. I will also check out your channel! Always nice to discover another small youtuber
@@Camhill182 Np! Keep up the videos! I wish I had the Cali Weather.. The East Coast 30 degrees weather sucks.. Hopefully moving to Florida soon..
Damn didn't realize the states give so much power to the dealerships!
None of those things are weird for a CTR. They boost 21psi stock. Rear pads are early wear. Tires have to be replaced 10-12k. I feel like I learn less every time I watch one of these videos.
You’ll regret it, that’s gone after the weekend
Doesn’t want a beat car, yet he’s going to trade a beat ass hell Si.
What, does that mean I should only buy a beat up Type R?
@@Camhill182 it means be humble, car has swirls? Guess what your Si clear coat is destroyed. The dealer is going to buy your car and sell it to someone else it’s a cycle and you need to be in it.
@@AshKetchhum I didnt complain about the swirls.. i think you’re punching thin air right now man
@@Camhill182 No matter what I’ll keep seeing your vids and support you with likes.
@@AshKetchhum thank you
those are 20in wheels wrapped in rubber bands lol will bend as soon as you hit a pothole
How much do you owe on the si? Curious
18.5
Stock tires last 10k for most and when you put on new tires you should get alignment. Nothing wrong with turning brake rotors. Unless you’re getting advice with Type R owners everything is hearsay.
My 2018 type r never tracked and daily driven needed rear pads around 17k miles - and I got an alignment at 10k miles after stock tires wore out and got new tires put on ... seems legit to me
yea im seeing a lot of this. I shoul have asked you Type R owners about this before going.
Hey Cameron, have you driven a lightweight, balanced, mid-ship, pure RWD sports car focused on handling and response?
Ex. ND Miata, BRZ/FR-S/86, S2000, Lotus Elise, Porsche Cayman, Mazda RX-8?
No, but I plan on having something like that on the channel someday!
@@Camhill182 yeah man did you see the patent images of the GR86 front bumper?
Glad you didn’t buy it from that dealership, I went there trying to buy a Jeep Grand Cherokee & they tried to screw me on the price.
Good to know
bro..... autocorrect got you. Stealership*****
These cars make stupid power when tuned even on stock turbo
i cant wait!
20 inch rims stock not 19
I had a 2019 with 31k miles, only work done was oil change and fuel pump recall, now I changed for a 2021 boost blue, msrp no mark up
Go on Vroom.com man. They have Type R’s for about $36k with 9,000 miles, that being 2019-2020 cars
I was looking at the reviews of them the other night. All i can say is, iffy to try them
Saw one for 32k today. I'm not too sure about the mileage because I was looking for a hatchback sport so I skipped right over it.
Hey man, enjoyed the video regardless. Super excited for you to get the Type R whenever that may be. Once you find the right one, you’ll know. Keep it up!
Was in the same dilemma Cameron!! Ended up biting the bullet and buying a new one but thankfully I found it for $500 over MSRP here in NJ! Keep up the search, I know you’ll find the perfect one ✊🏾
I’m not sure how good Carvana is but have you checked with them ?
They wont give me jack shit for my si, which is why i cant buy from them
Rear OEM brake pads on Type R’s are only good for about 15k - 20k miles. I just replaced mine.
I now know this! I just ordered a 2021 for MSRP yesterday
Congrats man! Happy for you! Excited to see the content on it!
Cold call every dealership in states outside of Cali, for instance, I called PA dealerships Bc va all had markup. I googled dealership in pa and went down the list calling all of them. Even if they did or didn’t have one I said I saw a type r on ur site, still available? If so what price? Then they told me yes and at this price. Or one coming tomorrow, etc.. got me my 21 for msrp at valley Honda in PA
Just google Honda Nevada and call all of them. Or Oregon honda dealerships , etc.. Most important thing is calling all of them and saying u saw one on their site. The ones I called in PA were surprised I knew Bc they were hiding it from online and acted surprise. Worth a shot as it worked for me
Wow, thanks!!! I will certainly try this!!
36 k is a bit overpriced for sure. the type R is amazing. the 6 speed trans is smoother than any other manual trans ive driven. and it has torque down low in pretty much every gear. has a great steering feel as well. the only thing that needs to be changed is the 20s need to be replaced with 19s with a little more tire because the 20s ride rough with such a small wheelbase
I have a friend who has a type R and they have had the tires replaced 3 times already and the breaks twice, the problem are the big ass wheels it has and the thing profile
Mad respect for your patience.
I just bought. Fell in love immediately.
I think Flagstaff or Prescott, AZ has been known for selling Type Rs at MSRP if you're willing to travel
Thanks!
What about the insurance costs?
its listed just as a hatchback. not a sports car. itll be cheaper than the si
Try buying one brand new for msrp
It’s hard but the are out there
Thats your best bet i own a type r and i beat the shit out of it like most people do
For some reason the rear brakes always wear out first and the oem tires last about 10k if you are lucky...i also had to get an alignment twice because of potholes 🤷🏻♂️
Only type r owner know it.
He never own type r and he tried to compare it to the si.
Si is sport car.
Type r is race car.
What tires did you rewrap the wheels in when the originals were done with?
@@RelaxAndSmokeMeth yokohama advan v601 265/35 on 9.5/18 inch wheels
@@100PorsientoBoricua thanks dude!
You’re si does not have rubber band tires and brembo brakes . Tires do not last long or brakes .
100% you did the right thing. It’s exciting buying a “new car” and you can justify it up and down all day if you really want too. Walking away is always the best strategy. Worst case the car sells the next day. Who cares. There will be other Type R’s.
What it does do is give you time to think. Chances are when you get home you’ll be thinking a little more clear about everything. Also, in my experience they will usually call you back. The price may not come down a ton but you’d be surprised what they will give you at times to move the car. And if they don’t then keep looking for someone else that will.
It took me years learning the hard way. It’s always disappointing not getting it especially driving all that way, but I promise you you’d be way more disappointed if the car had issues and you’re stuck with a 600 dollar a month pmt! You’ll find the right car. Great insight with the process though!
Cam I'm going to look at a new 2020 blue Si sedan tomorrow, wish me luck. I've been waiting like 2 years to get an Si. Hope you get the car you want too.
Dude! Let me know how it goes! May The Force be with you
@@Camhill182 just finished episode seven 🥸 lol
@@Camhill182 picked up the new Si today I love it. Thanks for all the videos it made buying it an easy choice.
Type r is a go should have grabbed
I might go back
I agree. The alignment shouldn’t be too much of a concern. The roads are bad which can definitely affect the alignment pretty quick. The stock tires wear fast. The brakes, replace them.
Traded a '17 Si (bought w/300 miles on it) in on my new '18 Type R. Never looked back. Drove both on the track as they are performance cars. Thirty minutes to black out the red stripe on the ground effects. 19" forged light weight NSX wheels. Sticky factory tires can wear out in 10,000 miles (who would have guessed?). Funny thing is i had to drive 600 miles to Northern California of all places to get a decent deal.
Just put deposit down on a 2021 Champion White, will go get that next weekend. Si to Type R, hope I will not miss my red 2015 Si coupe. Love your video man!
Congrats! Im going to walk in to a dealership tomorrow and try to pitch a deal to them on a white one myself!
@@Camhill182 Good luck! The dealer in Cleveland I called is 6hrs away from me, with some factory add up about $1000 and a “paint detailing package” for $900, 40k is what they offer me and I’m already happy to take that. Hope you can find a better deal!
It was definitely tracked, and the rear pads probably needed replacement because the owner probably used the parking brake after beating on it at the track (when the pads are hot and you use the parking brake, the rear pads + rotors can get stuck together)
The nitpicking and complaining in this video seemed a bit entitled.
I appreciate the feedback. I was trying to be transparent. Im not entitled at all. Grew up in a middle class family and worked many jobs. I’m just not going to pretend to my subscribers that this car is perfect and should be on a pedestal is all. I do like it and am excited to buy one!
@@Camhill182 Understood. I still think your dislikes could've been highlighted differently, but I get you.
AWE touring exhaust sounds great on the type R.
I actually just purchased the track edition for my civic si coupe. It’s a really distinct exhaust from the rest. Can’t wait to put it on.
Ordering the touring for my 2020 CTP PM
Awe touring edition is by far my favorite and it has the anti drone technology
@@juancisneros1733 I ordered the MAP street exhaust, right before AWE released theirs. Should have waited. MAP sounds good too though. 👍
@@juancisneros1733 I got the touring on my Si. Love every second of the drive now.
Yeah can’t stand the stock 20” wheels and the stock tires last less than 10k miles. I swapped mine out within the month for a nice set of 18”s and a longer lasting tire.
I have a 2020 type r paid over sticker price but anyways I normally dont comment on videos but the tires only last like 10,000 miles nd i got 6500 so far they almost need to b replaced even i never race my car or track it on the window sticker it tells u tires last less then 10,000 miles good luck
Got it! Thank you for the info! A lot of type r owners have commented the same thing. I should have consulted with you guys before going to look at it. Do you think I should go back and buy it?
Tbh if u have a Doubt about tht car in your mind tht it been beaten up nd the car is still about 35k for 4k more u can get a brand new car nd end of the day u know everything about a brand new car if u can find one at msrp i paid 6k over msrp I didn’t handle tht right soo c if u can find one quick or buy tht 2018 still under factory warranty so u good!!
When he said “this is way too much” on the amount of red the interior has i laughed cause the the 2023 models have even more red now 💀
I have a 19 Type R with 19k and I had to replace tires, brake pads, and alignment as well. I do drive it pretty hard but I don't track it.
As long as demand for these cars outweigh the numbers, and they wear an R badge, just assume it's been used for its purpose people. Not that it's gonna bother the car anyway. I also think the wheels are an inch to big on these things visually, also way to easy to damage a wheel.
The 2019 version comes with buttons for the infotainment system and its better but, unfortunately, it is still pretty slow
Yeah they’re slow in a straight line in stock form. They’re like 14 second cars in the 1/4 mile. But with some bolt ons and e85 you can easily get it into the 12’s but they handle great at a track and around corners.
He was saying the head unit is slow
@@Camhill182 ah. Apparently I can’t read.
@@ZFA1738 Like Cameron said I was talking about the head unit, I do agree with you that the Type R shines on the corners more because of its handling. I have a 2019 Type R and it's awesome, gas mileage really surprised me too lol. A friend of mine actually taught me how to drive manual on his Subaru WRX and I gotta say, I almost bought one but I wanted the trunk space of the hatchback
@@Camhill182 Oh I forgot to mention, I believe it was the right choice for you to leave the dealership, two people who had the car already; you don't know what they did to the car. Plus, you already have multiple backup plans to get a Type R and that's awesome! Can't wait for you to get one and see what you do with the car! Also, there are a few things that I think would annoy you about the car and just wanted to let you know beforehand. The breaks get very squeaky because I believe they are track brakes, a lot of people switched the brakes to street brakes and it doesn't squeak anymore. There will be a ton of brake dust too, also, if the wheels you want to get are backordered and you still have the stock wheels on, putting on 255/35/20 tires helped a lot because the ride quality does get better, the titan 7s I want is out of stock so I decided to get bigger tires and they don't rub or anything
That is normal on the tires and brakes btw. Don't expect the stock contis to last very long, for some reason this car will go through rear pads sooner than the fronts and if people sit on the hot brakes at a light or use the brake hold feature a lot it can warp the fronts a bit. I bought a used blue CTR coincidentally with similar miles and the dealership threw new tires, and brakes on it. Car has been good to me
Type r rear brakes always wear out fast since it uses it normally during cornering, the grooved rotors are all normal on any pre 2020 type r. Tires lasted me 8k city driving with no track. That 2018 R is completely normal. I wouldn’t have machined the rotors though just get an aftermarket set.
good to know. A lot of people (I assume Type R owners) have been saying exactly that. I might go back and buy it if they go down to $35k
Supposedly the type R rear brakes wear more than the front ones and that’s normal on those specific cars. The shop I bring mine to that specializes in Honda/Acura’s relayed that to me
If it's a dealer.. they should be able to get the paint corrected. No problem.
You can easily fly out to the East Coast for $50 nowadays then drive back to the west coast and save thousands of dollars.
You driving around there brings back good and bad memories,I loved the weather there,but screw that traffic,I lived in San Jose then Stockton,I say don’t buy a used one,save your money get your own
Awesome video. I was glad you walked. Was definitely tracked a couple times
When I bought my 2015 grand Cherokee in 17. I started to look in Reno area and was able to save 4-5k or even Oregon. If you get it at a dealer you can have them add our tax percentage to the loan.
Ill open up my search radius!
Well man I just fallowed ya insta and it looks like you got the type R !! Congrats man
Thanks!!
I bought a used 2018 Type R. According the forums and Facebook groups. The rear brake get eaten up pretty fast due to how invasive the traction control is. Some people go through rear brakes in 5K.
I changed mine at 23K
Good to know. Thanks!
Type R also eats through tires, I destroyed my front tires within 7000 miles of street driving before I even did any track days. That was just from hard driving on backroads. I did 3 track days on existing rear tires (rotated to front) and those are nearly trashed as well. Be ready to replace at least front tires at 10000 miles if you drive the car hard. I recommend replacing the front 2 tires (which will be the first to go) and rotate those to the rear....and repeat the process when the front tires go bad again... this way you only have to replace 2 tires at a time. Anyway, good luck with getting a Type R, I recommend you go for the 2019 Type R instead of 2018, 2019 you get climate control buttons.... not a huge deal but improve things.
Most of the Type Rs had alignment issues from factory. Look into it. The rear pads only last about 15-20K miles I think the main cause is because of the VSA especially if you take it to the track.
If it's around the same price for a new one, I'd say buy a new type r at of course msrp unless money ain't an issue. I got mines for 36k new with 4 miles. Might have to search further out of your area but it'll be an awesome adventure trip. You'll be able to break in the car on your way back home if bought new.
Another source of help is joining a few civic type r facebook group if you haven't. Give you lots of info between questions and answers, buying and selling, builds, common problems, and everything else. Good luck!
I bought my type R new, I don't track the car, I drive it as a daily, at 20k miles? The rear brake pads were gone. I had to get my rear brake pads replaced too.
Patience, I was looking for a type R at msrp for awhile - finally found one in Louisiana, a 2020 - bought it at msrp - I live in Miami Florida - had it shipped to me for 600 - just have to be patient and look around
what dealership? help a brother out
@@Camhill182 Richard's Honda in Baton Rouge - Durell was the salesman, awesome dude - ask for him - tell him George Pino sent you - good luck
Based on my research rear brakes last around 12k miles. So what you found out on the maintenance records is considered normal on a CTR.
Yea, thats what a lot of people have been telling me in the comments here. I told the salesman if he can do $35k Ill go back and buy it
Portland and salem both had CTR for sale. Portland had one with $2k upcharge
Salem had one at MSRP
Thanks!
Have you taken a look at the RODO app? Great negotiation tool, I use to own a Honda Hatchback but traded that in for a Kia Stinger GT. Good luck finding the Type R everything will fall in its place.
Ive never heard of it but i will try it out! thanks
@@Camhill182 Cheat codes to real life 👌🏼😁
Awesome videos bro got a 9th gen si myself gona wait till 11th gen type r comes out too get
Recently got a 9th gen si sedan same color as yours. Luckily mine wasn’t involved in a shooting lol. But good luck on your search for the right type-R. I’m debating on getting one later down the line.
Lol thanks and congrats on your purchase!
Love it!
Don't sweat it. 35-36K is a lot of money. Get the most pristine R you can find for your buck or walk away
I’ve worked at Honda everything wears on that car fast but nothing you can’t fix in the aftermarket
I will fix that stuff when mine comes in!
stock tires last about 10k....rotors and brake pads probably been tracked. and stock wheels are 20' good luck finding one
I will never pay more than MSRP for a car. I hope you get the right Honda Civic Type R 🙏😔
thank you!
get a 2020+ model, the amount of upgrades vs previous year is worth the extra money
Had to change my rear pads on my Type R at 15k miles and front tyres at the same time. I'm sure I read somewhere that's the rear brakes wear quicker if you have adaptive cruise control and use it quite often which I did
I heard nevada has no taxes. Not sure but doesnt hurt to try out there since it is cheaper then California.
You pay taxes in the state you live in.
@@Tool0GT92 i have friends in neveda that says they have no sales tax. Everything is sold as price listed. I still dont believe it even if others have said so
You paid sales tax where the car is registered.
@@harryl8234 montana has a loophole where if you register the car to a montana llc then you dont pay the sales tax check it out its everywhere. Thats how supercar owners get away with not paying taxes on their supercars.
@@Stormtrooper-oc4vn don't know about Montana, but in California if a person tries to register a car to a llc, then no sales tax to the car. But to to have a California llc will cost $800/year.
it’s your money and car so you can be as picky as you want, but you also have to realize everyone doesn’t drive the same. some people use the brakes more frequently and aggressive than others. Also I’ve had people come into my shop with less than 500 miles on their new car and get new tires because they didn’t like the way a certain tire rides 🤷🏽♂️ just throwing that out there brother.
Thanks! Im trying to keep an open mind. But i also don’t want to get screwed
@@Camhill182 that’s completely understandable. Better safe than sorry.
How much was he asking cause msrp for type r in 18 I think was 36,000 or 37,000
Which one? The black one i mentioned at the end?
Fam did u go to school in upstate new jersey? I went to kittatinny high and you look just like this dude I used to go to school with. Great call BTW wait it'll be worth it
I just got a 2019 with 10k instead of new! Bc couldn't find blue without mark up
My goal is to buy a typeR in 2 to 3 years, I always liked the Nissan Z but being front wheel it doesn't work in snow season, i had the money for it but, i went with a honda civic manual transmission. With my budget I found some Hondas si around my area but they were either rebuilt and salvage title, so i chickened out and didn't go for it.
I had my sport touring hatch delivered in the back of a truck like 700 miles to me it was used
I got 7500 miles out of my stock tires. Four new Indy 500s 255/35/20 with full alignment that were about 55% worn when I just traded it in at 14k miles. Car was barely out but we fixed it. Dealer gave me $31k for it. One front set and two sets of pads in 13k miles. That is normal. I bought my 2019 PMM FK8 in Oct 2019. 700 miles on my 2021 BB FK8 today. This car is extremely heavy in maintenance when pushed at all. If you're buying a Type-R to drive it around and say "I own a Type-R". It's not for you.
SOOO glad you waited to get the black one...MUCH prettier car! ;-)
Don’t let them pressure you bro. I walked out of a dealership last week, after them not budging on a deal I wanted. Next day they called me to come back for the deal I requested. So for the inconvenience of going back. I even got a better deal. They were very upset 😠 when I drove off with truck.
What the hill, you have to get a 2020 typeR white
Maybe!
@Ernie Uchiha white with red interior 🔥👌🏽
I think you should wait and look for any Type R with aftermarket parts and wheels out there instead of stock Type R. I saw one Nice 19’s Type R with a lot of performance parts and 18’ Titans wheels sell for $36k from Hot Rides Texas but it already sold it out so fast! The dealer told me that guy trade Type R for Mustang.
A month later you bought a brand new one!
Yes sir!
TW: video is actually 15:44 long.
You know, if you can't find a CTR. There's always the MK7/7.5 GTI / R ;)
They didn’t go with you because of social distancing, we do it here too