Fireball is also a feature, it is effectively flash bang, discombobulating the target(and the operator), meaning the bullet is in an un-observed state, allowing it fire the two projectiles instead of the single projectile, truly ahead of its time.
The ultimate recce weapon: short so it's easy to maneuver. Short barrel for short range capabilities. High caliber so long range shots are viable. Russian cause why not. And big iron as well. Quintessential
The Obrez isn't cursed, it's just way ahead of it's time... It belongs in the apocalypse. They should make a bunch of those if they ever do another Mad Max movie.
It looks so bad, especially that god awful extended mag and the barrel shroud. Christ, looks like that mosin was dragged through a tacticool shit catalogue
the way the muzzle flash forms briefly forms a vortex/barrel at 1:50 is so cool looking. i would love to see that filmed with a super high speed camera
Imagine a gang of crack sellers tries to fuck with you and you just pull out a fucking pocket Mosin that makes twice the holes compared to ammuniton it fires
I remember when the Obrez pistol was a one shot in battlefield 1 you could also snipe from a considerable distance fun to play with interesting history behind it as well
Historical records from russian civil war states that cut down mosin could hit human sized target somewhat reliably at distance up to 50-100 meters, but those had substentially longer barrel, about 6-8 inches.
Seeing the shock wave followed by the fire rings in the opening cinematic is actually insane, it's cooler than any game trailer or movie scene in the last 5 or so years. Edit: that whole opening is better than any movie or videogame cinematic I can recall, especially the shots where the camera is past the barrel and the whole thing shakes. Cant get enough of that, we need to see this in super-slow-mo
Ive had an Idea. Step 1: remove pistol grip Step 2: atach the obrez to the bottom of any Assault rifle of choice in a way that has the Bolt going up when closed (or atach It to the side in a way that has the Bolt going over the handguard) Step 3 (optional): atach a trigger linkage system on the side of the obrez to make It easier to fire in the underbarrel configuration. End result: underbarrel/sidebarrel obrez.
I can imagine a Lovecraft short story where the part that drives the protagonist insane is that the only gun he has is this. *"Why?!"* he asks himself, but there can never be an answer.
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Obrez literally means "cut", this word is usually used to describe shotgun/rifle with a cut barrel (shorter than the original for close combat I assume). Usually in movies they just take a regular rifle or double barreled one and cut it by hand and go kill zombies, but this thing looks like a Star Wars blaster.
@TorpedoX In Russia they don't know who is Randy Weaver, who killed his family and the guys who saw off shotguns and rifles usually don't give a fuck about the law.
Considering how both the "Completely Ordinary" Mosin, and the Obrez look, I'm realizing that pretty much all sci fi guns like those in Star Wars are little more than extremely cursed regular guns.
A lot of the blaster rifles were Sterlings with doodads on them, Han Solo’s pistol was a Mauser pistol with doodads, and you see various soldiers, both Rebel and Imperial, with MG-42s and Lewis guns. The stun gun the Jawas use is basically an SMLE Obrez with a grenade cup. There’s a Forgotten Weapons video on which actual guns the various props are made from
In mandalorian season 2, during the train-guarding episode they pulled out a bunch of weapons out of a box and it was just stock VSS Vintorezes and painted mosins
The bigger the caliber, the better. 50 cal pipe bolt action pistol with some what the hell legendary effect on it, works just fine. Hardly any barrel lenght/rifling but that's fallout logic for ya
It's a multi-purpose gun, it's both a pistol and a flashbang dispenser. Even if you miss, the enemy will think you are shooting shark teeth with those keyholes.
Obrez was cut with a bit longer barrel approximately 4-7 inches. They didn’t cut it that short. They also used to leave wood of foregrip almost to the end of the barrel. Obrez was popular with bandits mostly as it was easier to conceal and easier to shoot while riding horses.
As russian, i can say that "Obrez" is every cutted weapon in, well, "Rough" way, not like aks-74u. Mosin, TOZ-34, anything, that can be cutted to the every condition: from "Pretty big boi" to "wha", not only mosin. Btw, for russians "Обрез" associated with toz-34, that's mystery for me, why "Obrez" is mosin, but "Обрез" is toz, lol
@@Okuu_Appreciator As a russian, I will strongly disagree! I'm pretty sure, that it was never associated with TOZ. Toz34 was created by N.Korovyakov, who was born in 1937 !!!!! The Obrez has been around since the beginning of the 20th century, mostly from 1917thru 1930's and for every russian it's associated with either Mosin Nagant 1891 or any hunting rifle for that matter of that same era as well, but never a toz, that came out in 1965 as a production model, and at that time ( 1965) there was no need for obrez, as it was mostly the bandit's and rebel's choice of weapon.
You know, looking at the recoil in slow-motion it just occurred to me that fitting that thing with an ergonomic revolver grip would probably make all the difference in the world.
Actually, considering the unstability of this "pistol´s" round, it makes it even more dangerous. It´ll tumble heavily upon impact and would make a lot more damage than just piercing 7.62x54 mm bullet. So from close range this thing would chop down any man. And even when hitting an arm or leg, it´d be "game over" in first shot.
Let's be even more reasonable, you all are broke children who couldn't afford a gun line this let alone be man enough to use it against someone, maybe stupid enough but definitely not man enough.
My great grandpa had a blaster like this that he called his "snake gun." It was a break action 12 gauge single barrel that he manufactured from scratch. no, it wasn't an illegally modified shotgun. it was a scratch build item (and has since been destroyed). it basically had just enough "barrel" to cover the shotgun shell and otherwise looked like this obrez does (minus the bolt). he usually carried shot that was between bird and 00 buck (i forget the exact shot size) and you just had to vaguely point in the direction of a snake to blast it to smithereens. if you are gonna walk the Mojave, you really do need a gun like that which is light, quick to draw, and very reliable. you want to be able to spot a dangerous snake, draw, and shoot in about a second. and yes, my great grandpa would wander the actual Mojave like he was an NPC in fallout new vegas. he was a badass lol. something about killing nazis in WWII turned guys into badasses
That is cool and your grandfather sounds dope but there is no situation that I could imagine that you could get into wherein you would need to quickdraw on a snake to defend yourself lmao
@@fernandocarvallo9135 this gets me back to my 9mm with shot shells. Could I just use a solid bullet, maybe...but snakes are fast and hide under crap, so your reaction time matters a lot when you accidentally intrude on a poisonous one.
I remember when Dice added this weapon to battlefield 1. They basically allowed those armed with smgs and shotguns to carry a shortened rifle as a backup for long distance targets.
There’s just something about a ‘bolt action pistol’ that SCREAMS “Do NOT put your head behind this thing when you fire it… IF you have the stones to even try!”
Perfect Fallout pistol. Jokes aside though, you've got a 181 grain projectile moving at what you said was at least 1400 fps and thus smacking into someone with nearly 800 foot pounds of energy AND tumbling like mad as it does so - that's nearly twice the energy of a .45 and a darned ugly wound track. So while the thing is definitely big, bulky, slow to fire and reload, it's definitely only going to take one hit to remove an opponent from a conflict.
This was the main defense weapon during the Russian Revolution and the Civil War even though the Nagant 1895 is the common sidearm. Most weapons during early rise and establishment of Soviet Russia were often confiscated but for a Mosin Nagant, for self defense, arent going to fit in a winter overcoat than just sidearms that were used in World War 1.
I’ve owned a lot of these guns. In the ‘80’s I bought a case of perfectly unfired MOSINS for $12.00 each. They are great! If you can find the ammo and get the pistol and rifle that were made to be a set…they are fun. Secondary hole is due to the energy preserving cap that they put on the back of the bullet of older rounds. The rifling rips it off, defeating the purpose and it is most often lost far off target.
This makes me wonder what would happen if there was about two full inches of rifling, and the propellant was switched out to something with a faster burn rate. More stability, higher kinetic energy, definitely more recoil...
Some Obrez did (and do) have barrels as long as six or so inches of rifling. If you reload the cases with light bullets and faster powder (H-110, for instance, or the "universal load" of Unique) you can get a gun that's worth actually putting sights on. You'll have similar ballistics to a .30 Super Carry in a 4+1 bolt action that still weighs five or six pounds -- but it'll actually be aimable.
That actually looks like a kind of jury-rigged firearm that the crew of a starship stranded on a habitable planet with no way of getting off of it would build to hunt the local fauna for food while trying to survive.
The sound that thing makes has to be unreal. I've only heard microphones react like that to actual explosives and artillery. Truly the most cursed work of art I've ever seen.
I kinda like the obrez, it has like a rugged mad max kind of charm. The type 94 nambu is the most cursed gun that I know of because it's aesthetically disgusting and is more likely to kill the person carrying it than his enemy.
Interesting fact: weapons like OBREZ was used in times of 1918-1920 civil war in Russia against Reds (communists) and Whites (monarchists). In general obrez was used by farmer resistanse in ambush attacs on times of "prodrazverstka" (expropriation of farmer products for Red Army and cityes population by communists).
Its suboptimal to attack group of people armed with normal mosins with this abomination. In reality obrez mostly used to ambush unarmed people and robbing
So basically what I'm getting from this is when the barrels that short on a 7.62x54r is so unstable it's more like chucking a rock at 1200fps than a proper flight of a projectile......sounds messy
Well it was a "hide under coat, walk next to someone, whip quickly out at point blank range, pull trigger" weapon. Revolutinary political assassinations or criminal thuggery. Hard core revolutionary wouldn't even care about the second shot, unless the first *at point blank range* managed to miss the target. Push the gun to targets chest or ear and pull trigger. Not much chance of missing. The massive shock of that hefty energetic tumble bullet makes sure person is really really dead. Well in case of criminal ganstering, walk next to someone, pull that from under cost, point at their head and say "I have offer you can't refuse, do exactly as I say or I will turn your head to a bloody stump and bunch of brain splatter."
Guy 1: I want a pistol that can crispy skin someone up close Guy 2: Don't worry fam. I got you. Guy 2 pulls out the chopped Mosin Nagant from the secret vault.
1:46 Wow. You can actually see the muzzle flash rotate. I thought at first it was a solid ring, but the flash definitely corkscrews. I assume it's because the barrel is so short relative to the power of the round used.
Say what you want, the Oberez filled a niche that needed filling, by people who lacked the access to better options... It still produces one of the most epic fireball rings ever!!
@@squidy4082 Because slinking around the back alleys of St.Petersburg with a service rifle slung over your shoulder is hardly inconspicous. You need something you can hide inside your coat. The Obrez is a weapon for people who needed pistols but the best they could get was a mosin and a hacksaw.
Never understood the Sig MCX... The round is functionally identical in performance and utility to 7.62 NATO. The rifle is just an expensive AR10 with a short-stroke gas piston and a lot of parts wear issues. The only thing of value from the NGSW program is the fancy optic.
I just bought a Kore belt, and had honestly never heard of them. When he gave them his stamp of approval at the beginning of this video, I was validated like never before. Thanks father Thumb.
Looks easier to fire holding it left handed and operating the bolt with the right possibly using the bolt handle as a horizontal bump fire grip. Edit. Possibly the first plasma gun as the powder charge does most of the damage close range. Looks like a star wars gun
The regular mosin at work ONLY shoots SIDEWAYS. It's pretty hilarious watching it blast giant holes in paper, and then when you flatten the paper out, you see the perfect silhouette of the bullet, which kind of looks like when someone smashes through a wall in a cartoon... I can only imagine what kind of wound that would make...
"It's very stiff to hold up your guns or whatever larping equipment you need." I love those quick jabs he throws at us they just come out of nowhere and I find it hilarious.
I would imagine that wound channel would be really severe, given the instability and tendency of the lower velocity and destabilized round to tumble. Probably would be decent weapon at close range, at least in terms of lethality. Obviously the accuracy suffers, but if you're shooting at shotgun ranges, it'd probably get the job done relatively reliably.
Yep that's the point of these modern lower power shells. Less range so less collateral damage, less chance of 2 from 1 shot (rear bystanders) allows more shots with less recoil and better accuracy. But then when it's fired it's unstable trajectory means a much larger complicated wound. More energy discharged on the target instead of elsewhere
Nice video, as always. As a native speaker I can tell that 'obrez' is literally a 'cutoff', so it can be applied to anything (usually something 12 gauge) and be called the same.
Every time I discover something you make a video about it within a few months. Literally I had a funny thought of sawing off my mosin like a week ago and here it is
Weirdly enough, I’ve only heard of the Obrez after installing the Olde Firearms mod for Unturned. It was weird, and I loved it. Seeing it compared to a regular Mosin, I would have to agree that it looks cursed. And I love it more
In regards to stopping power, I bet that the tumbling effect actually mitigates the loss of energy somewhat as long as you're close enough to actually hit what you're pointing at. It's kind of like a super scuffed hollow point, increasing the surface area of the wound. And lets be honest, without sights you're not hitting anything very far away without a lot of luck even if you did have a stable bullet.
Americans sometimes do strange things. The sawed-off shotgun was the weapon of bandits who had to hide it under their clothes. It was made simply, the buttstock was sawn off and the barrel was sawn off, and the fore-end was almost entirely left. The barrel was three times longer than in the video. The whole gun was about 17-18 inches.
@@BalrogUdun This is if the rifle is made from a smoothbore shotgun that fires buckshot or buckshot. Here a rifle with a rifled barrel is trimmed, loaded with a bullet cartridge, and its accuracy is quite poor, you can only hit very close. In Russia it was the weapon of bandits.
remember it only had to shoot about 10 feet , it was meant for clearing trenches that were to narrow for a rifle. most soldiers used hand weapons grenades sawed of rifles and shot guns that full metal jacket would shoot through more than one german soldier when Pointed at them in a trench
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The AK furniture is class.
You should give them Punt gun.
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The final form of the big Iron on his hip.
A weapon to surpass metal gear
Fireball is also a feature, it is effectively flash bang, discombobulating the target(and the operator), meaning the bullet is in an un-observed state, allowing it fire the two projectiles instead of the single projectile, truly ahead of its time.
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Discombobulate
This quantum discombobulation is just what contemporary physics needs.
Ah I see, the bullet, when unobserved, is in a quantum superstate of hit AND miss simultaneously. Hence one round on target, and one not
There should be more than two holes if it is truly in the quantum state, lol.
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The ultimate recce weapon: short so it's easy to maneuver. Short barrel for short range capabilities. High caliber so long range shots are viable. Russian cause why not. And big iron as well. Quintessential
Imagine the stopping power from it at short range!
Best weapon I’ve seen to perform the Mosin Beak
Common ammo too!
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Quintessential 😆 more like Perfection.
"Let's see how a bullet looks fired through a regular Mosin." Proceeds to pull out a scoped meth lab.
“Jesus wept”
@@GarandThumb "And his tears were Mountain Dew"
'Scoped meth lab'...🤣
Wait till he finds about Vintage Warfare's "Sigma Grindset" variation
I see it and go right to the Godfather "Look how they massacred my boy!"
The Obrez isn't cursed, it's just way ahead of it's time... It belongs in the apocalypse.
They should make a bunch of those if they ever do another Mad Max movie.
It’s more of a mad Marx gun
Tbh, civil war in Russia was the mad max 1919
Legend has it that its serbian batmans weapon of choice
I like this idea
lol when that time russians were.making gun and riffle with same caliber (easier than obrez lol)
It’s funny how the geared up Mosin with the rails and crap looks more ridiculous than the pistol version
I loved that take on it, myself.
It looks so bad, especially that god awful extended mag and the barrel shroud. Christ, looks like that mosin was dragged through a tacticool shit catalogue
It's awesome as fuck lol yall are crazy
"Can you imagine being shot at by this at night?"
No... no I cannot, because the word for "Obrez firing at night" is called "daytime"....
I shit you not I read your comment as he said it on screen. Pretty wild lol
If the tumbling projectile doesn't get you, the fireball will.
@@MichaelDavis-cy4ok fireball???
@@Kaliburrrr its basically a flashbang at close range in the dark
the correct term is "rapid onset sunshine"
I do NOT blame you one bit for double DOUBLE checking that chamber when you were ghosting that trigger.
Yea that would've been real bad that thing going off in your face with no ear pro. 3rd degree burns too.
“Dude, I’m not going to shoot that.” (Already sorting ammunition for it….) yep sounds like every good range trip to me.
the way the muzzle flash forms briefly forms a vortex/barrel at 1:50 is so cool looking. i would love to see that filmed with a super high speed camera
1:45
1:49
@@DurinThe_Deathless as if he didnt saw that bruh
I’m not gonna lie I would really want one of these even tho they are stupid, but the historical neatness is just too much to pass up
In a trench it might work to kill everybody down a line including your mates
O hello you need to get out of that house right now how do you know where I am you're dad and still kill qws
okay little boy go back to class
Oh hey there
Imagine a gang of crack sellers tries to fuck with you and you just pull out a fucking pocket Mosin that makes twice the holes compared to ammuniton it fires
I remember when the Obrez pistol was a one shot in battlefield 1 you could also snipe from a considerable distance fun to play with interesting history behind it as well
Still is
Historical records from russian civil war states that cut down mosin could hit human sized target somewhat reliably at distance up to 50-100 meters, but those had substentially longer barrel, about 6-8 inches.
Still my favorite BF1 sidearm, well tied with auto revolver.
I was scrolling through and I saw your name and thought that it was someone's one word explanation for the Obrez .
@@Dethmeister
You're probably not wrong
Seeing the shock wave followed by the fire rings in the opening cinematic is actually insane, it's cooler than any game trailer or movie scene in the last 5 or so years. Edit: that whole opening is better than any movie or videogame cinematic I can recall, especially the shots where the camera is past the barrel and the whole thing shakes. Cant get enough of that, we need to see this in super-slow-mo
Right? Those rings were badass
All that unburnt powder
One of the slow motion shots literally looked like he fired a space gun
Imagine being on the other end of that fireball. Even if bullet miss, target will feel like getting punched by kangaroo while getting flashbanged.
Ive had an Idea.
Step 1: remove pistol grip
Step 2: atach the obrez to the bottom of any Assault rifle of choice in a way that has the Bolt going up when closed (or atach It to the side in a way that has the Bolt going over the handguard)
Step 3 (optional): atach a trigger linkage system on the side of the obrez to make It easier to fire in the underbarrel configuration.
End result: underbarrel/sidebarrel obrez.
1 the fuck you smoking bruv
2 where can I find whatever you are smoking
3 I now want an underbarrel obrez
oh god no....
Why!?!? For the love of all guns that are holy
So, an M26 MASS but it's a Mosin and doesn't have the optional stock?
Finally, a gun attachment for guns
"Mom, can we get a Desert Eagle?"
"No, we have a Desert Eagle at home"
Desert Eagle at home:
Huh?What?
Ironically I'd take this over a deagle
I can imagine a Lovecraft short story where the part that drives the protagonist insane is that the only gun he has is this.
*"Why?!"* he asks himself, but there can never be an answer.
hey the call of Cthulhu was set in 1891 so its possible
He ends up shooting himself with it
Here comes the metal(s) man.
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Obrez literally means "cut", this word is usually used to describe shotgun/rifle with a cut barrel (shorter than the original for close combat I assume). Usually in movies they just take a regular rifle or double barreled one and cut it by hand and go kill zombies, but this thing looks like a Star Wars blaster.
Its literally the russian language equivalent to "sawn-off"
@@muffininacup4060 обрез
@TorpedoX In Russia they don't know who is Randy Weaver, who killed his family and the guys who saw off shotguns and rifles usually don't give a fuck about the law.
@TorpedoX Well this thing is already produced like this so I would assume it's not illegal. Who knows.
it also means cut as in circumcised
That opening montage was funny, especially the way you completely missed several targets from only about 15 feet away.
Please, one minute of silence to pay respect to the Mosin killed so that monstrocity could exist.
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Ehh there are millions
@@Iron_Soil Every Mosin life counts
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No
Considering how both the "Completely Ordinary" Mosin, and the Obrez look, I'm realizing that pretty much all sci fi guns like those in Star Wars are little more than extremely cursed regular guns.
A lot of the blaster rifles were Sterlings with doodads on them, Han Solo’s pistol was a Mauser pistol with doodads, and you see various soldiers, both Rebel and Imperial, with MG-42s and Lewis guns. The stun gun the Jawas use is basically an SMLE Obrez with a grenade cup.
There’s a Forgotten Weapons video on which actual guns the various props are made from
you JUST figured that out?
In mandalorian season 2, during the train-guarding episode they pulled out a bunch of weapons out of a box and it was just stock VSS Vintorezes and painted mosins
Basically collectors are super angry that there's no Mauser C96 any more because Star Wars fans wanted them to be props for their Han Solo DL-44.
Hence storm troopers.
The world needs more real bolt action pistols, Fallout 4 and 76 has taught us this lesson.
The bigger the caliber, the better. 50 cal pipe bolt action pistol with some what the hell legendary effect on it, works just fine. Hardly any barrel lenght/rifling but that's fallout logic for ya
Considering how bad those games are idk if that’s a good thing to say💀 tho yes… bolt action pistols are awesome.
@@braincube013 agreed. Fallout nv guns> fallout 4,76
@@braincube013 Fallout 76 is not good, but Fallout 4 has some good things
@@heliogonzalezsanchez8227 Without mods ( a lot of them ) I’d just rather play older titles.
It's a multi-purpose gun, it's both a pistol and a flashbang dispenser. Even if you miss, the enemy will think you are shooting shark teeth with those keyholes.
Obrez was cut with a bit longer barrel approximately 4-7 inches. They didn’t cut it that short. They also used to leave wood of foregrip almost to the end of the barrel. Obrez was popular with bandits mostly as it was easier to conceal and easier to shoot while riding horses.
@Zed Kay Ever lived in Soviet Union or been in Russian Military?!
I've read 4 to 8 inches myself. He said they didn't bother crowning the barrel as well. Probably why that one round split in two.
As russian, i can say that "Obrez" is every cutted weapon in, well, "Rough" way, not like aks-74u. Mosin, TOZ-34, anything, that can be cutted to the every condition: from "Pretty big boi" to "wha", not only mosin. Btw, for russians "Обрез" associated with toz-34, that's mystery for me, why "Obrez" is mosin, but "Обрез" is toz, lol
@@Okuu_Appreciator because it's cursed it happened a second time
@@Okuu_Appreciator As a russian, I will strongly disagree! I'm pretty sure, that it was never associated with TOZ. Toz34 was created by N.Korovyakov, who was born in 1937 !!!!! The Obrez has been around since the beginning of the 20th century, mostly from 1917thru 1930's and for every russian it's associated with either Mosin Nagant 1891 or any hunting rifle for that matter of that same era as well, but never a toz, that came out in 1965 as a production model, and at that time ( 1965) there was no need for obrez, as it was mostly the bandit's and rebel's choice of weapon.
With that barrel length the muzzle flash is doing all the damage
I wanna stick a blank in it and see the damage
Cinematic at the beginning was awesome. I want more like that.
finally a left handed pistol
You know, looking at the recoil in slow-motion it just occurred to me that fitting that thing with an ergonomic revolver grip would probably make all the difference in the world.
2 projectiles for the price of 1! This thing reduces net ammo cost back to pre-2020 prices. I'll take 7.
I saw no drawbacks with that lmao I was like "1500 fps? 2 in 1? What's not to love?"
Borderlands series gun:)
Awesome intro! The muzzle flash is beautiful with that ring of fire and massive shockwave.
Actually, considering the unstability of this "pistol´s" round, it makes it even more dangerous. It´ll tumble heavily upon impact and would make a lot more damage than just piercing 7.62x54 mm bullet. So from close range this thing would chop down any man. And even when hitting an arm or leg, it´d be "game over" in first shot.
and let's be reasonable, no one will snipe with this thing. It's more of a conceal and shoot when you are certain to hit.
Who needs a shot gun with this thing around?!
Let's be even more reasonable, you all are broke children who couldn't afford a gun line this let alone be man enough to use it against someone, maybe stupid enough but definitely not man enough.
You are basically flinging shrapnel out of this thing.
7x62x54r being unstable??? It flies very straight. Do you mean the 7.62x39???
Or do you just mean the lack of barrel??
My great grandpa had a blaster like this that he called his "snake gun." It was a break action 12 gauge single barrel that he manufactured from scratch. no, it wasn't an illegally modified shotgun. it was a scratch build item (and has since been destroyed). it basically had just enough "barrel" to cover the shotgun shell and otherwise looked like this obrez does (minus the bolt). he usually carried shot that was between bird and 00 buck (i forget the exact shot size) and you just had to vaguely point in the direction of a snake to blast it to smithereens. if you are gonna walk the Mojave, you really do need a gun like that which is light, quick to draw, and very reliable. you want to be able to spot a dangerous snake, draw, and shoot in about a second. and yes, my great grandpa would wander the actual Mojave like he was an NPC in fallout new vegas. he was a badass lol. something about killing nazis in WWII turned guys into badasses
A 9mm with shot shells kills snakes fine and is utterly legal.
Gigachad grandpa
That is cool and your grandfather sounds dope but there is no situation that I could imagine that you could get into wherein you would need to quickdraw on a snake to defend yourself lmao
@@fernandocarvallo9135 this gets me back to my 9mm with shot shells. Could I just use a solid bullet, maybe...but snakes are fast and hide under crap, so your reaction time matters a lot when you accidentally intrude on a poisonous one.
@@jacobcoles6986 he said nazis not people
I remember when Dice added this weapon to battlefield 1.
They basically allowed those armed with smgs and shotguns to carry a shortened rifle as a backup for long distance targets.
That’s exactly why I use it for the Assault Class lol
@Dr Disconect Try maschinenpistole 1912 P16 and gasser if you want some challenge, shit's always need to reload
@Dr Disconect peacekeeper gaming
@Dr Disconect yes but reload time is awful
Chad's run mosin with mosin
What is that sound effect at 0:53 ?
There’s just something about a ‘bolt action pistol’ that SCREAMS “Do NOT put your head behind this thing when you fire it… IF you have the stones to even try!”
ah yes, the obrez, when you want a realistic reenactment of the renaissance era but you don't have enough money for an arquebus.
Dude, have you *seen* the prices on reproduction matchlocks?!? 🤪
Perfect Fallout pistol.
Jokes aside though, you've got a 181 grain projectile moving at what you said was at least 1400 fps and thus smacking into someone with nearly 800 foot pounds of energy AND tumbling like mad as it does so - that's nearly twice the energy of a .45 and a darned ugly wound track.
So while the thing is definitely big, bulky, slow to fire and reload, it's definitely only going to take one hit to remove an opponent from a conflict.
Putting it like that. That's what we call the "Internal Blender"
Exactly my thoughts on it. It's absolutely stupid, but there's definitely someone running it (or something similar) in Warzone.
I was just thinking a 180 grain 44 mag at 1300fps as a comparison for foot pounds.
Crazy lol.
seems like a fuctional assasination weapon since you only need the one shot making any attempt to stop the assasin useless.
This was the main defense weapon during the Russian Revolution and the Civil War even though the Nagant 1895 is the common sidearm.
Most weapons during early rise and establishment of Soviet Russia were often confiscated but for a Mosin Nagant, for self defense, arent going to fit in a winter overcoat than just sidearms that were used in World War 1.
Battlefield 1 memories.
yes !! I wasn't the only one thinking about bf1 when I saw this video lol.
Same man the good ole days
What Would Mosin Do?th-cam.com/video/UAXL5iP1YWA/w-d-xo.html
I wish that game wasn’t deader than dead
@@yeedbottomtext7563 what platform do you play on? I play on xbox and I can still find games pretty easy...well atleast for certain game modes anyway.
Damn the shockwave coming outta that thing is pretty cool! Gas is way underexpanded in that barrel lol
I’ve owned a lot of these guns. In the ‘80’s I bought a case of perfectly unfired MOSINS for $12.00 each. They are great! If you can find the ammo and get the pistol and rifle that were made to be a set…they are fun. Secondary hole is due to the energy preserving cap that they put on the back of the bullet of older rounds. The rifling rips it off, defeating the purpose and it is most often lost far off target.
What is a "gas check?" I'll take 19th century arms tech for $200 alex.
If I could travel back in time one of those with-hindsight-investements I'd do would definitely crates of Mosins.
underrated comment tbh
12$ 💀💀💀
Yes, That "energy preserving cap", is called a "Gas Check". When I saw the hole I thought, that it might be a Gas Check, it made the most sence.
This makes me wonder what would happen if there was about two full inches of rifling, and the propellant was switched out to something with a faster burn rate. More stability, higher kinetic energy, definitely more recoil...
Some Obrez did (and do) have barrels as long as six or so inches of rifling. If you reload the cases with light bullets and faster powder (H-110, for instance, or the "universal load" of Unique) you can get a gun that's worth actually putting sights on. You'll have similar ballistics to a .30 Super Carry in a 4+1 bolt action that still weighs five or six pounds -- but it'll actually be aimable.
A sore wrist
The painifier
Cursed weapons testing might just be my new fav TH-cam series. Keep dropping fire vids bro!
That actually looks like a kind of jury-rigged firearm that the crew of a starship stranded on a habitable planet with no way of getting off of it would build to hunt the local fauna for food while trying to survive.
The sound that thing makes has to be unreal. I've only heard microphones react like that to actual explosives and artillery. Truly the most cursed work of art I've ever seen.
I kinda like the obrez, it has like a rugged mad max kind of charm. The type 94 nambu is the most cursed gun that I know of because it's aesthetically disgusting and is more likely to kill the person carrying it than his enemy.
Interesting fact: weapons like OBREZ was used in times of 1918-1920 civil war in Russia against Reds (communists) and Whites (monarchists). In general obrez was used by farmer resistanse in ambush attacs on times of "prodrazverstka" (expropriation of farmer products for Red Army and cityes population by communists).
Its suboptimal to attack group of people armed with normal mosins with this abomination. In reality obrez mostly used to ambush unarmed people and robbing
Mosin Nagant: "POP!"
Mic: ...
Cursed Obrez: "THUMP!"
Mic: Oof!
So basically what I'm getting from this is when the barrels that short on a 7.62x54r is so unstable it's more like chucking a rock at 1200fps than a proper flight of a projectile......sounds messy
Well it was a "hide under coat, walk next to someone, whip quickly out at point blank range, pull trigger" weapon.
Revolutinary political assassinations or criminal thuggery. Hard core revolutionary wouldn't even care about the second shot, unless the first *at point blank range* managed to miss the target. Push the gun to targets chest or ear and pull trigger. Not much chance of missing. The massive shock of that hefty energetic tumble bullet makes sure person is really really dead.
Well in case of criminal ganstering, walk next to someone, pull that from under cost, point at their head and say "I have offer you can't refuse, do exactly as I say or I will turn your head to a bloody stump and bunch of brain splatter."
Then you can hit them with it.
Russian accent.
@@aritakalo8011 I'm well aware of what it was used for..... simply a comment on ballistics and flight of the projectile
I love the sound wave “ring” u get when firing the Nagant pistol, it’s more than just muzzle flash.
Guy 1: I want a pistol that can crispy skin someone up close
Guy 2: Don't worry fam. I got you.
Guy 2 pulls out the chopped Mosin Nagant from the secret vault.
"Don't build 40 PSA rifles just to have 40 rifles" ----
I feel personally attacked
You know with that much sight offset you really should have a spirit level under the sight. :)
@6:02 that cut off made me spit out my water💀
1:46 Wow. You can actually see the muzzle flash rotate. I thought at first it was a solid ring, but the flash definitely corkscrews. I assume it's because the barrel is so short relative to the power of the round used.
I've got a modified Mosin, barrel is 16 1/4", and is at best, mildly unhinged. The Oberez is straight out clinically insane.
Say what you want, the Oberez filled a niche that needed filling, by people who lacked the access to better options...
It still produces one of the most epic fireball rings ever!!
But why shorten a normal mosin ?
@@squidy4082 Because slinking around the back alleys of St.Petersburg with a service rifle slung over your shoulder is hardly inconspicous.
You need something you can hide inside your coat.
The Obrez is a weapon for people who needed pistols but the best they could get was a mosin and a hacksaw.
@@mattislindehag3065 ahhhh I should’ve just watched the video lol
Honestly the army should have adopted something similar as the NGSW instead of the Sig MCX.
Kek
Never understood the Sig MCX... The round is functionally identical in performance and utility to 7.62 NATO. The rifle is just an expensive AR10 with a short-stroke gas piston and a lot of parts wear issues. The only thing of value from the NGSW program is the fancy optic.
That secondary hole could have been from a clump of unburnt powder. I doubt all of the powder is able to burn with that short of a barrel.
I just bought a Kore belt, and had honestly never heard of them. When he gave them his stamp of approval at the beginning of this video, I was validated like never before. Thanks father Thumb.
They're pretty popular actually, you like it? I use the black arch belt myself.
Definetely something we would see in the Metro game.
Looks easier to fire holding it left handed and operating the bolt with the right possibly using the bolt handle as a horizontal bump fire grip.
Edit. Possibly the first plasma gun as the powder charge does most of the damage close range. Looks like a star wars gun
The report sounds pretty sick. Also, who needs a "Mozambique" when you have a 180gr projectile tumbling at 1200fps into center mass?
In this case… it’s the Mosin Beak
Also setting the enemy on fire at the same time.
@@williamflowers9435 👏👏
FD did have the period correct camo for the drill
The regular mosin at work ONLY shoots SIDEWAYS. It's pretty hilarious watching it blast giant holes in paper, and then when you flatten the paper out, you see the perfect silhouette of the bullet, which kind of looks like when someone smashes through a wall in a cartoon...
I can only imagine what kind of wound that would make...
The trailing off “thank you ATF” shit had me dying
a weapon to surpass metal gear
9:38 - On quarter speed you can actually see the projectile spinning wildly.
"It's very stiff to hold up your guns or whatever larping equipment you need." I love those quick jabs he throws at us they just come out of nowhere and I find it hilarious.
Not much over penetration, acts as a poor man's flashbang when firing, perfect for home defense
Goes in the body, explodes in the body. Moisins don’t do that, obres supremacy
That thing gives off a nice low frequency thud when it fires
Technically, there is no "the Obrez", there is only "a obrez". It just means sawed-off, as a noun. I didn't even know a rifle obrez was possible.
GT needs to have a library for all his cinematic level intro scores.
DEagle 50: I'm joke for you?
Mosin obrez: Yes, take my beer. 🍺
I’ve always heard everyone say you couldn’t possibly make an Obrez like the one in BF1, but leave it to Brandon to do it himself.
The one in BF1 is just missing the stock and has a Nagant 1895 pistol grip attached. Real examples of it exist
That intro though was worthy of a freaking documentary!
"Do you want to deafen your enemy, set him on fire or blow a large chunk out of him?"
"Yes."
I would imagine that wound channel would be really severe, given the instability and tendency of the lower velocity and destabilized round to tumble. Probably would be decent weapon at close range, at least in terms of lethality. Obviously the accuracy suffers, but if you're shooting at shotgun ranges, it'd probably get the job done relatively reliably.
Yep that's the point of these modern lower power shells. Less range so less collateral damage, less chance of 2 from 1 shot (rear bystanders) allows more shots with less recoil and better accuracy. But then when it's fired it's unstable trajectory means a much larger complicated wound.
More energy discharged on the target instead of elsewhere
I think this is my favorite gun channel now
I love it when Garand goes full cinematic on us.
did you notice the fireball that the ring of fire is actually spiralling the direction of the rifling? that was neat
I love these cinematic ones!
Nice video, as always. As a native speaker I can tell that 'obrez' is literally a 'cutoff', so it can be applied to anything (usually something 12 gauge) and be called the same.
Every time I discover something you make a video about it within a few months. Literally I had a funny thought of sawing off my mosin like a week ago and here it is
imagine getting hit by a sideways 7.62x54 bullet from a gun that is essentially a handheld mortar device at 10 yards
You can probably fit a full grown man fist in the exit hole.
Weirdly enough, I’ve only heard of the Obrez after installing the Olde Firearms mod for Unturned. It was weird, and I loved it. Seeing it compared to a regular Mosin, I would have to agree that it looks cursed. And I love it more
In regards to stopping power, I bet that the tumbling effect actually mitigates the loss of energy somewhat as long as you're close enough to actually hit what you're pointing at. It's kind of like a super scuffed hollow point, increasing the surface area of the wound. And lets be honest, without sights you're not hitting anything very far away without a lot of luck even if you did have a stable bullet.
loved the mosin-bique drill
Finally, a pistol with a great personality.
These intros for these videos have no business being that good.
Dr. Garandthumb is like that guy that tells you what weapon you're using for training, but you can't skip the dialogue before the cutscene.
Americans sometimes do strange things. The sawed-off shotgun was the weapon of bandits who had to hide it under their clothes. It was made simply, the buttstock was sawn off and the barrel was sawn off, and the fore-end was almost entirely left. The barrel was three times longer than in the video. The whole gun was about 17-18 inches.
The shotgun is more so a spray and pray method so it comes in handy when your overwhelmed and not a great shot.
@@BalrogUdun This is if the rifle is made from a smoothbore shotgun that fires buckshot or buckshot. Here a rifle with a rifled barrel is trimmed, loaded with a bullet cartridge, and its accuracy is quite poor, you can only hit very close. In Russia it was the weapon of bandits.
remember it only had to shoot about 10 feet , it was meant for clearing trenches that were to narrow for a rifle. most soldiers used hand weapons grenades sawed of rifles and shot guns that full metal jacket would shoot through more than one german soldier when Pointed at them in a trench
incredibly envious of Garand Thumb’s Rhodesian Brushstroke gear, I must know where he acquired
Check out Americana pipedream. I think they had some recently
That's wild to be able to see the projectile flying through the air.
As we can see, the most powerful part of an Obrez is its muzzle blast.
This is the gun I'd spend my bottlecaps on in the apocalypse
This is some real "Have at thee comrade." Shit right here
This is my new favorite collection of words.
As a left handed lover of bolt actions, I love this gun. I also like how it looks too.
That's the most fallout shit if I've ever seen, that and Brandon's proto ak50
Glad to see General Sam's Silent Whisper had some influence on this haha
Given that 7.62x54r is a pretty stout round, I've never thought that drastically shortening the barrel would affect the recoil.
No barrel, no recoil. Lol