Colonel Rustard :) Love that truck! My 1972 F-250 here in the desert southwest is freaking 99% rust free! Floor and cab corners are perfect... Except, of course the lower fender by the door has a scab, and that is it! And the Best Part... she still has the Lakeland, Co Dealer rear bumper, also in perfect shape :)
Been doing this for awhile. Just finishing up on a 57 F100 using tile board (hardboard) and ABS. I covered the kick panels with black vinyl material with batting. Gives it a plush finish.
I've switched from paper and tape to heavy mill clear plastic, magnets, and a marker. It's far more accurate for me in tight spaces or where there landmarks to keep track of.
I got one of those pretty cheap thermal camera add on modules for my phone. Comes in very handy doing jobs like this and many other jobs around car restoration. Being able to clearly see the heat makes getting jobs right. Can get nice even heat into the plastic, makes job so much easier. Also comes in handy doing things like lead loading, heat treating and diagnosing things like dragging brakes,overheating or non running cylinders,radiator hot and cold spots ,hvac faults etc. Can see where the cold or hot air is leaking in when driving. Best gadget ever!
That heat gun is about to be landfill material. Hard to control the heat. LOVE the idea of the module too! We've thought about getting one of those mobile phone scopes too.
Jeff, I've used 1/8" masonite for door panels. Unfortunately I didn't have the type that had the white coating on one side and only had the uncoated type. After I cut out the panels along with all of the holes, I sprayed them with a couple of coats of clear enamel from a rattle can to give them some form of water resistance. I also used piece of plastic visqueen for a liner. It was a bit thicker than a plastic trash bag, but the purpose is the same. Thanks for all of your work in creating these awesome videos.
The 1/8th inch is what is normally sold but your problem is not with the heat gun. It is plenty, it is the thick bar next to it that is transferring the heat out of the plastic next to the bend. ABS can be sanded on corners with normal shop tools. Plus, it you need a thicker spot for a fastener, clip or screw, you can add a small piece from your scrap say 4x4 or smaller, but wipe the area clean, brush on a thin layer of MEK (Methyl Ethyl Keytone) sold at home improvement stores. Brush on, place the two together and hold for 60 seconds. It is a fast solvent weld. MEK is a thinner for gel coat and polyester resins. Don’t use MEKP as it contains peroxide and become a hardener or catalyst. High head spray adhesive will work great to hold foam strips, spaced 1/4” apart and cover with vinyl to match your seat, but yes, most people will kick it and scuff, but stop short to leave the bottom 1/3 bare. It think the grain side looks better when sprayed with a vinyl paint of a contrasting color like medium to darker brown. That would go with you color theme currently.
Hey there! 🙂 at 8:05 into the video you guys are talking about an overhead console install. I am doing the EXACT same thing to a '93 E350 box truck. Did you guys ever do a video on retro-fitting and installing it? I looked in your library and I just couldn't find it.
I used 1/4 ply for my door cards on wagoneer. Now not sure if I should wrap them or hit with wood stain as they have a decent looking wood grain. Plus I was able to get the speakers I have to fit.
On the edge @ the door, you may want to think about useing tile board trim, in plastic and metal (painted to match) available in the paneling section at most builder supply.
stay away from MDF in high humidity climates unless you seal them or paint them very well . i have had more than one sheet over time start turning green ( mildew? mold ? ) even showed spots of green on a speaker box ( inside , outside was covered ) and the inside of a center console .
Hey, never done one. I assume it will operate something like the Ford bow type stuff. Go check out our Camaro and Mustang headliner videos. There are some good tips there.
Baltic birch all day for custom speaker enclosure. Mdf weighs entirely too much, and swells with humidity and moisture. Too much harmful dust when cutting also.
Do you see any problems in using ABS plastic for sail panels or door panels? My sail panels were attached to the car via a cork strip. Should I just use a heavy gauge staple gun to attach it?
No, the ABS would repel moister better. BUT the ABS needs to be VERY clean to accept glue. We'd recommend trying contact adhesive and or Landau glue. Do this with headliner scraps and scrap ABS. Also, the ABS s way more expensive and if you muck up a door panel (like I do) you are dealing with nearly a half a sheet of ABS gone.
May I suggest you expand the abbreviations, ABS or MDF, at least in the descriptions? Please? Information Technology guy here who is on an anti-abbreviation, anti-acronym campaign.
Well, I'm pretty sure I'd need to go to the Dr. to get my tongue untwisted on the ABS: Acrylonitrile Butadiene Styrene. The MDF is easier: Medium-density fiberboard. Hope that helps.
where can you buy sheets of ABS.? btw cool choice of rims for Col.Mustard. i am going to run Cragar SS on my 67 Ford f-100. the rear tires are BFG Silver towns 285/70R15,s. what year and make did you get that overhead console from.?
Overhead console is out of a 1995 -00 Explorer. Be SURE to get the harness too. When we put it in I might do an episode. As for the ABS, we looked up ABS sheet, Columbia SC. You can get smaller sizes on line and even at the big box stores (Lowes and Home Depot) but it is special order.
thanks for the reply. i went to Home Depot today. they have some stuff in 4x8 sheets that is about a 1/16 thick . its not black but its white. not sure if its ABS or not. it says on the tag its made of some kind of recycled plastic. we have a hobby lobby in the town where i live . i think i will check them out.the Home Depot where i live is not a regular Home Depot. its 1/4 the size of a reg. Home Depot. there are supposedly 13 of them around the U.S.A.
I will be covering that in a future episode on our Galaxie. But the short answer is you can take a small hammer and tap the hole on the back side of the panel to close it up.
@@AutoRestoMod I look forward to your methods. I have a 94 Camry , the door handle on the driver's door broke off. Much to my surprise both sides of the doors handles wouldn't work. Well the door was closed, so how could I remove the door panel to get to the latches. Well I had to go mid evil on that panel. Turns out I can't just go buy another one, so I found your channel to get ideas on making or fixing the panel. The old girl has 30000 miles on her she could use a little interior facelift so to speak.
I'm getting ready to do the door panels in my 67 fairlane, I watched a previous episode of yours about a week ago and you used whiteboard...I was all set to pick some up and this episode popped up and your using hardboard...whats the difference ? Is there a difference ?
The white board is just better for reducing water damage. If you seal the door well with plastic, the regular hardboard will work fine. ABS is pretty expensive and a bit more flimsy (depending on the thickness).
Colonel Rustard :) Love that truck! My 1972 F-250 here in the desert southwest is freaking 99% rust free! Floor and cab corners are perfect... Except, of course the lower fender by the door has a scab, and that is it! And the Best Part... she still has the Lakeland, Co Dealer rear bumper, also in perfect shape :)
Been doing this for awhile. Just finishing up on a 57 F100 using tile board (hardboard) and ABS. I covered the kick panels with black vinyl material with batting. Gives it a plush finish.
I've switched from paper and tape to heavy mill clear plastic, magnets, and a marker. It's far more accurate for me in tight spaces or where there landmarks to keep track of.
I got one of those pretty cheap thermal camera add on modules for my phone. Comes in very handy doing jobs like this and many other jobs around car restoration. Being able to clearly see the heat makes getting jobs right. Can get nice even heat into the plastic, makes job so much easier. Also comes in handy doing things like lead loading, heat treating and diagnosing things like dragging brakes,overheating or non running cylinders,radiator hot and cold spots ,hvac faults etc. Can see where the cold or hot air is leaking in when driving. Best gadget ever!
That heat gun is about to be landfill material. Hard to control the heat. LOVE the idea of the module too! We've thought about getting one of those mobile phone scopes too.
Jeff, I've used 1/8" masonite for door panels. Unfortunately I didn't have the type that had the white coating on one side and only had the uncoated type. After I cut out the panels along with all of the holes, I sprayed them with a couple of coats of clear enamel from a rattle can to give them some form of water resistance. I also used piece of plastic visqueen for a liner. It was a bit thicker than a plastic trash bag, but the purpose is the same. Thanks for all of your work in creating these awesome videos.
The 1/8th inch is what is normally sold but your problem is not with the heat gun. It is plenty, it is the thick bar next to it that is transferring the heat out of the plastic next to the bend.
ABS can be sanded on corners with normal shop tools. Plus, it you need a thicker spot for a fastener, clip or screw, you can add a small piece from your scrap say 4x4 or smaller, but wipe the area clean, brush on a thin layer of MEK (Methyl Ethyl Keytone) sold at home improvement stores. Brush on, place the two together and hold for 60 seconds. It is a fast solvent weld. MEK is a thinner for gel coat and polyester resins. Don’t use MEKP as it contains peroxide and become a hardener or catalyst.
High head spray adhesive will work great to hold foam strips, spaced 1/4” apart and cover with vinyl to match your seat, but yes, most people will kick it and scuff, but stop short to leave the bottom 1/3 bare. It think the grain side looks better when sprayed with a vinyl paint of a contrasting color like medium to darker brown. That would go with you color theme currently.
Did you ever make a video installing the overhead console and showing the custom work with the abs plastic to do so?
I run a strip of aluminum tape across the bottom edge. It last forever. It allows you to wrap/waterproof the edges as well.
Nice idea!
Hey there! 🙂 at 8:05 into the video you guys are talking about an overhead console install. I am doing the EXACT same thing to a '93 E350 box truck. Did you guys ever do a video on retro-fitting and installing it? I looked in your library and I just couldn't find it.
Excellent video. My Ford is missing a few interior panels that need to be replaced.
I used 1/4 ply for my door cards on wagoneer. Now not sure if I should wrap them or hit with wood stain as they have a decent looking wood grain. Plus I was able to get the speakers I have to fit.
So much yes. I gotta build my own console
On the edge @ the door, you may want to think about useing tile board trim, in plastic and metal (painted to match) available in the paneling section at most builder supply.
"Not great with Woodworking" I cannot do stuff in wood to save my life . . Ya stole that quote out of my playbook! LOL
That's a great analogy, I don't like wrapping presents or masking anything.
Thanks
stay away from MDF in high humidity climates unless you seal them or paint them very well . i have had more than one sheet over time start turning green ( mildew? mold ? ) even showed spots of green on a speaker box ( inside , outside was covered ) and the inside of a center console .
I'm sure you ve been doing this a long time and find it doesnt. BUT, won't it warp in a hot car being plastic based?
Man you guy's are awesome great video . Good teachers of doing automotive things I would did not that was abs this thin thanks for the good ideas.
Gotta put in a complete head liner in a 73 Dodge dart swinger any suggestions would be great
Hey, never done one. I assume it will operate something like the Ford bow type stuff. Go check out our Camaro and Mustang headliner videos. There are some good tips there.
Baltic birch all day for custom speaker enclosure. Mdf weighs entirely too much, and swells with humidity and moisture. Too much harmful dust when cutting also.
Does Birch weigh less?
Do you see any problems in using ABS plastic for sail panels or door panels? My sail panels were attached to the car via a cork strip. Should I just use a heavy gauge staple gun to attach it?
No, the ABS would repel moister better. BUT the ABS needs to be VERY clean to accept glue. We'd recommend trying contact adhesive and or Landau glue. Do this with headliner scraps and scrap ABS. Also, the ABS s way more expensive and if you muck up a door panel (like I do) you are dealing with nearly a half a sheet of ABS gone.
May I suggest you expand the abbreviations, ABS or MDF, at least in the descriptions? Please? Information Technology guy here who is on an anti-abbreviation, anti-acronym campaign.
Well, I'm pretty sure I'd need to go to the Dr. to get my tongue untwisted on the ABS: Acrylonitrile Butadiene Styrene. The MDF is easier: Medium-density fiberboard. Hope that helps.
You might want to concentrate your focus on the floor pans before worrying about the kick panels.
Already addressed. Too bad you weren't here to help! Have a great day.
These trucks didn't come with kick panels they were just metal. You can cover them with about anything. I would have cut it from cardboard first. 😊
where can you buy sheets of ABS.? btw cool choice of rims for Col.Mustard. i am going to run Cragar SS on my 67 Ford f-100. the rear tires are BFG Silver towns 285/70R15,s. what year and make did you get that overhead console from.?
Overhead console is out of a 1995 -00 Explorer. Be SURE to get the harness too. When we put it in I might do an episode. As for the ABS, we looked up ABS sheet, Columbia SC. You can get smaller sizes on line and even at the big box stores (Lowes and Home Depot) but it is special order.
thanks for the reply. i went to Home Depot today. they have some stuff in 4x8 sheets that is about a 1/16 thick . its not black but its white. not sure if its ABS or not. it says on the tag its made of some kind of recycled plastic. we have a hobby lobby in the town where i live . i think i will check them out.the Home Depot where i live is not a regular Home Depot. its 1/4 the size of a reg. Home Depot. there are supposedly 13 of them around the U.S.A.
Abs plastics work for headliner?
I wonder if this would work on panles that the screw holes have gotten bigger then the head of the screw.
I will be covering that in a future episode on our Galaxie. But the short answer is you can take a small hammer and tap the hole on the back side of the panel to close it up.
@@AutoRestoMod I look forward to your methods. I have a 94 Camry , the door handle on the driver's door broke off. Much to my surprise both sides of the doors handles wouldn't work. Well the door was closed, so how could I remove the door panel to get to the latches. Well I had to go mid evil on that panel. Turns out I can't just go buy another one, so I found your channel to get ideas on making or fixing the panel. The old girl has 30000 miles on her she could use a little interior facelift so to speak.
If you use mdf you can wax it to make it waterproof or you can buy a product that looks identical called medex it is waterproof
It's for the heads up!
I'm getting ready to do the door panels in my 67 fairlane, I watched a previous episode of yours about a week ago and you used whiteboard...I was all set to pick some up and this episode popped up and your using hardboard...whats the difference ? Is there a difference ?
The white board is just better for reducing water damage. If you seal the door well with plastic, the regular hardboard will work fine. ABS is pretty expensive and a bit more flimsy (depending on the thickness).
Is there a source for panel templates? My Shay was missing the panels in the rumble seat area when I got it.
Best bet would be to paper template them like I did. You can also hit the forums and see if anyone on there is doing them.
Use poster board and a tape measure ..but I'm a 16 year old builder ..what do I know haha
You can do that for sure. If you have the existing panels though....
Rustang