Lockheed L-1011 Tristar - The Most Failed Airplane?
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Here's a little backstory you might find interesting.
(Swiss001 - you may want to mention this on a future video too)
From the beginning, the market for a 3-engine wide-body aircraft was expected to be very small and a huge financial gamble for any company. If there was any competition from a rival company, it meant neither company was likely to make money because they would both have to spend a lot to compete but not be able to sell enough planes to pay for all the development costs. Boeing knew this fact, and so did Convair, North American etc. That;s why they didn't even bother. In fact, In reality, all the major plane makers wanted to do a twin-engine plane... but the engines of the late 1960s didn't make enough power for such a large aircraft.
But that's a whole 'nother story about the A300 and 767 etc. that wouldn't come out until about a decade later.
The fact is, the Lockheed L-1011 was all original, and WAY better engineered than a DC-10. Douglas simply slapped the DC-10 together cheaply in order to compete. And then, to compensate for band-aid engineering, they slashed the price -- and practically gave them away in order to steal the market from Lockheed. Chronologically speaking, the only reason the L-1011 was generally entering service AFTER the DC-10 was because Rolls Royce who made their engines basically went Bankrupt and didn't tell anyone what was happening until they were out of business -- and then it took about 2 years for Rolls Royce to get the brand new engines in production. In fact, many people still think this was the real reason the DC-10 initially sold well in comparison to the L-1011. (You have to admit, 2 years is an eternity to wait for a new product when there's a cheap substitute ready with no waiting.)
American (who basically launched the L-1011 project with their request for a 250 seat mid-range jet) got a bad taste of Karma after they decided to get Lockheed against Douglass's cheaper plane. Initially, American signed up with the DC-10 with a cheaper package deal and saved a little money. And when American changed their order from L-1011s to get DC-10's instead, a few other airlines also went with the DC-10. It worked out for American in the short run. Until People started dying from cut corners and bad engineering choices. That's why the DC-10 got it's cute little nickname; the "Death-Cruiser 10".
It turns out, that while the L-1011 was getting a slow start, the DC-10 was already busy with a string of crashes with American airlines, Turkish airlines, American again, and later on, United airlines. It should be noted that although there were 2 crashes of L-1011's and a few incidents that took place on the ground, ZERO L-1011s ever CRASHED because of a design defect. This is not something that the DC-10 can claim - nor it's descendant the MD-11. (Not even mentioning the regular DC-10 crashes, just look up DC-10/MD-11 landing bounce crashes on TH-cam for example... yikes.)
The critical thing to remember is that Douglass had a better marketing strategy but a crappier product. Even the 2nd generation (the MD-11) failed to live up to design promises and lots of airlines sold their MD-11s in as little as 2 years. Douglas might have produced more planes and forced Lockheed to leave the airline industry, but in the end, their strategy backfired on them too. They couldn't come up with any REAL innovative products or new ideas. They fialed to create new segments or to properly challenge existing products (like the 757, 767, A300/A310/A330/A340 family, ANY regional jets or 747/A380 size aircraft etc.)
In the end, Douglas died a slow death and got bought out by Boeing in the 90s. And although Lockheed doesn't make the L-1011 they DO still exist, as Lockheed-Martin and they're busy making some of the most advanced, futuristic classified aircraft (and even spacecraft) mankind has ever created.
And for the record, if you ask anyone old enough to remember traveling on a DC-10 and L-1011, hands-down, they will tell you there is no comparison. The TriStar was breath of fresh air and it is painfully missed by countless aviation fans around the world. From its endless pioneering technology behind the scenes, it's silky-smooth automatic landing systems its ingenious flight kitchens that were hidden under the main floor, the huge comfortable seats --and most importantly-- the massive, wide-open spacious cabin... NOTHING was as innovative or luxurious back then as the L-1011.
And while the DC-10 had a few fans (aside from the Fed-EX guys, of course) it was definitely not a remarkable product, other than deadly design flaws and happening to get a little more market share of an already overcrowded segment (for the reasons already covered above.)
# TriStars forever!
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Respect tho
Swiss 001 moment: tu 154 is unsafe
Also swiss 001: dc-10 is not dangerous
#copyedfromtheinternet
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Swiss001: ocean man,take me to the... not ocean land.
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Airlines taking about airplanes
Swiss: what ever it is
Swiss 001 types into google : what is the plane that looks like a DC-10 and was a failure
Google: that would be the Lockheed L-1011 tristar
The men are waving at Ocean Man, men of culture
ha ha
L1011= One of the best planes
This is how many people have never flown on a Lockheed L-1011 Tristar before
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Infinite Aviation™ I haven’t
That’s it?
Just 62??
Keep it at 69
F it has 70 likes
Tailfin engine breaks off* Passengers: Hay, we flying spirit airlines now...
Ryanair 2
Yes! yes!😂😂😂😂 “ spirit airlines, the motel 6 of the skies”
*Black smoke*
Swiss001: That does not look eCoNoMyCaLlY friendly
Swiss001: -flys an airplane-
Also Swiss001: *lets go to saint barthelemy.*
The Lockheed L-1011 was actually just ahead of its time
It could land by itself like Autopilot
*plane crashes*
People in hot air balloon: Bye Bye
North Koreans: WOW! We should get that plane!
First american made air koryo
0:16 "this is a plane as you can see here"
me: no, i think that's a boat
Clearly it’s a *flying bus*
Clearly it's actually a flying *PIG*
It's a canoe you wallnut
No one:
Swiss: as you can see this is a plane
I remember Air Canada used to operate this beautiful birds, they were so lovely in the vintage 1963-1992 Red Rondelle Livery. Tough I do prefer the DC-10
0:11 Swiss: The Lockheed L-OneZeroOneOne
ITS LOCKHEED L-TEN ELEVEN TRISTAR AAAAAAA
person: big engines
Swiss001-:THICC rolls royce engines
Actually, the L-1011 is the safest of all the legacy wide-bodies. They are: the 747, DC-10, A300 and A310, and the *L-1011*
and lets not forget one of the first which could land itself entirely, and a safety record which landslides the POS DC-10 no comparison
Most failed? Hardly. What about the Mercure, the Yun10 and the Concorde? The first 2 had a production run of less than 10 planes. The last fared only slightly better with less than 20 copies made. There were 250 Tristars built. Not too shabby considering there was intense rivalry from the DC10 and serious disruption from the bankruptcy of the Tristar's engine supplier, Rolls Royce.
Swiss001: LockHeed Most failed airplane? Me:
*Thinks of Ryanair 737*
3:09 Swiss 001: You know everyone chooses a 747 over this plane
me: I choose the l-1011
“L- one zero one one” mate it’s L-ten eleven.
Orbiter 277 Finally someone of culture lol
Lima one zero one one
Ironically at 1:10, he also says "ten-eleven" 🙄
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The only fail in the Tristar was that too few airlines wanted to pony up for its advancements. The plane was an engineering marvel and had a ridiculous safety record compared to other wide bodies
The L-1011 failed due to Rolls Royce being ass and overpromising and under-delivering and having the engines delayed.
And due to Douglas rushing the DC-10 to market so they snatched all the orders that the Tristar could have got.
I'd love to see Lockheed martin making another airliner, it's kinda stale with just Boeing in the US making airliners
Actually the L-1011 was decently successful. It was a bit more fuel efficient than the DC-10 was. The only problem was it was expensive to maintain due to how many advancements were put into it by Locheed.
The host insults the TriStars. The L1011s were the most-beautiful airplanes of all times. They were the first ones to have autopilots. The host's words are biased and derogatory.
This plane was the safest and most advanced at that time.
In 1977 I took a flight on Eastern's L-1011-1. I was around 14 at the time, and we were heading back from Miami, going back to my hometown in Salt Lake City, Utah. The takeoff was surprisingly quiet, I flew in the md-11, the L-1011 was way quieter. The experience was Comfortable, and more spacious than many other airliners. Even Coach was great. The experience was overall very good! I would prefer it more than modern airliners today.
I Love the Trystar ❤
And swiss001 (ofcource) tooooooo....
Minute:3:20 😂
Du kannst sehr gut singen😂❤👌
Lol ein Deutscher
Pilot: flying normal in reallife
Also Pilot: Drifting a plane in X-Plane 11.....
Swiss 001: This is a plane as you can see right here
Me: Thanks.
I actually flew with this in 1994 to the Caribbean, was awesome ! LTU
L‐1011. Very fine airplane by all knowledgeable accounts. More fuel efficient than rival dc 10‐10 of American & United. Short of range on the DC 10‐30 until L 1011‐500 arrived 6 yrs later. THE plane you want to be flying in poor visibility
Looks like the L-1011 took the *L*
Try using Just cause 4 as a flight simulator
I second this. I used to use just cause 2 as a flight sim. It was surprisingly decent.
@@obsessiveoverthinker5937 Same, it was actually good
WhAt AbOuT fLiGhT sImUlAtOr 1.0
2:29 a lot of cost the plane to break one of them being “Frick you rolsroy”
This is dumb. The L-1011 was a great plane, just expensive and not the easiest airplane to maintain. The DC-10 was a flying coffin.
L1011 was one of the best constructed, technologically advanced airplanes ever built. Their few crashes involved human error and not design error. They were a good sound aircraft and a pleasure to fly on.
3:57 I am more than a bird, I am more than a plane. I am a bird-plane!
Swiss' intro today be like 'heyguyswelcomebacktoswisssszzzzzzz1 video, and today we are in the DC-10 HA HA!!!!!!!!!!!!' Love that high quality content.
Swiss the L-1011 was entirely ahead of its time, the tech in that AC at that time was ahead of all aircraft, and to point out a good amount of crashes was either Wx or pilot error. Homage!
3:58 introducing the Boeing birb plane
Swiss should make a video where he tries to land a airbus beluga on lukla airport
Swiss001:winging
Me:Oh DC bird
Why was the L-1011 called the L-1011?
Because it came after the L-1010.
**Spawns in England**
Swiss: Frick you RR!
England: Say bye-bye to your plane
Plane: Dies
Might be but not always, the l1011 is actually safer with the most advanced autopilot to land by itself, it just that it is too expensive and airline going for the twin engine jets
4:03 looks like star wars
The L1011 was the most technically advanced aircraft for its time....
Swiss001: L-One-Zero-One-One
Me, an intellectual: L-Ten-Eleven
finest plane of all time. only a failure due to RR bankruptcy. far better plane than the dc10
it was a failure because it was late produced because there were twin engines already. but it was one of the most advanced one in that time
The L-1011 is not an engineering failure but a commercial failure, because the companies have more interest for the DC10 so the L-1011 fall in the forgotten
The designer of the better model that used be available has all his items removed for some reason, I wish I knew why...
I was lucky to purchase his B707 before it became unavailable.
TWA, the golden age of flying...until Flight 800
^^^ former employee. Tri-Star was one of my fav. Flown across the pond on TWA 747-SP and ETOPS Tri-Stars. Only complaint was nose up flight attitude. Pilots loved them and had been the first to auto flight.
Lol it's really raining here in SoCal Bomb cyclone
The main thing that mad the L-1011 a commercial failure was the release of the DC-10 a few months before it. Because the two planes occupied pretty much the exact same market, neither had a good chance of being economically successful for their parent company.
TH-cam: 12 Views
Also TH-cam: 97 likes
That "Haha" onthe start... CRIIIIINGE
1:42 TWA L-1011 going Drift mode
That plane is legendary
The L1011 Actually Had a better safety record than its Main Rivals, The Boeing 747, And The DC-10
2:12
Ocean man in a balloon in the ocean.
The L1011 had incidents but most of them we're not fatal.
You really winged this video. :)
*tri-star exists*
Me: that tri-star is the most beautiful plane and NOT *dangerous* AhEm
McDonald’s Douglas dc10: AM I A FRICKING KIDDING TO U
Swiss001: 2:11 *well that didn’t go well* 😂😂 BuTtEr 🧈🧈🧈
Swiss001: *says hello to hot air balloon guy*
Hot air balloon guy: *no response*
your video's are so good i watch them every day
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Tom Wuijster skeet
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You’re officially first!
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*DC-10 Cart Wheels*
*L-1011: Hold My Lounge*
DC-10 is cheap and simple (and a death cigar), L-1011 is advanced premium and lighter plus it had a elevator so that proves them tri jets be extra dummy thicc
Swiss001: Let's use st barthelemy cuz we haven't been there for a long time
Lukla: am I joke to you?
3:16 Swiss001 commits american airlines flight 911
Curiosity:this plane have a elevator in the cabin to the galley
The L1011 was the most fascinating plane of its time. It had elevators, a lower galley, about 5 bathrooms. CHECK OUT THE VIDEO ON MY CHANNEL FOR A FULL TOUR FROM BACK IN 1986! MY DAD FLEW THESE BABYS!!!!
Help, what do I need to do to get a heart from Swiss?
Tristar? More like tried-star!
Swiss001 comedy
i think especially the apperance of the A300 was a contributing factor in the failure of the L-1011.
The plane did not crash a lot, I believe there were two actual crashes neither were at the fault of the plane itself. Both weather related. And it was actually a very good plane from a reliability and piloting aspect. DC-10 was just cheaper and came out first due to the Royce delay. And it was actually the first plane to fly a route completely automated from take-off to landing. It was not common practice and was done once without passengers but it was capable of it
On these small runways instead of rolling and wasting runway while the engines spool up you should hold the brakes while spooling up, so you don't start the takeoff roll until your engines are already at full power.
Swiss001 as a pilot: attention passengers crash with butter all over it we always crash and somehow survive. R.I.P plane✈🛬
Jet engines on space shuttle pls
What a coincidence I was talking about the l1011 yesterday
2:21 they're calling for help, man ..
The l-1011 is NOT THE MOST FAILED PLQNE EVER. It was a great plane
HUH YOU'RE LYING IT WAS A VERY BAD PLANE
@@aparajitaroy1497 , well ok if your a noob at aviation, then you can say that
You got it right it's pronounced "L Ten Eleven"
L 10 11
That is how to say it also it’s my favorite
2:08 instant karma
L - Ten Eleven
Should do the Lockheed Super Constellation
Lockheed knew how to build planes. MCD knew how to sell them. Sales always wins
great vid
The wings where flexing on you😂
Nobody:
Planes at Edinburgh airport:
3:34
Robin Johnston that's why I go to Glasgow airport
I think it’s the failed plane of 1 one engine in the tail is the #md11
1:05, “It never crashed”
Long list of L-1011 crashes: am I a joke to you?
If you are having a hard time calling it 1 0 1 1
Just call it 10 11
Pilot: “Am i in L-1011?” Last words of pilot. Btw need new Last Words
Fun Fact: My Grandad helped design the wings of this plane!
Swiss001: “El Ten Eleven” pls...