Nah bro, this is a channel for chess DRAMA, you gotta understand the skill dif between 'drama' and 'DRAMA', this is DRAMA, this is C I N E M A, or something like that, idk, I haven't seen the Tourist.
Kramnik is likely just doing this because he feels irrelevant. These streamers gets far more fame than he ever had outside of Russia despite being in his mind likely unworthy due to being worse players. He cant handle that situation nor handle the fact of him losing to younger players due to him no longer being at his peak. Its all about ego and not about protecting chess.
Kramnik makes his analysis videos and then deletes all the comments that are refuting him so that it would seem that everyone agrees with him. Such a clown
Kram just is falling off, newer players go deep into stockfish lines 20 plus or more in certain lines that they are peepared in and know best... its a new age of chess. The edges are sharper and hes aging and from a bygone era
he was over 2800 just 6 years ago, he's hardly a dinosaur. I know in the internet anything over a week ago is ancient history, but Kramnik is still an extremely strong player.
Of course he was a world-class player in his prime and is still very strong today, but that doesn’t mean he understands statistics. It’s very sad to see a player I respected go down this path of delusional paranoia
If there are concerns about players cheating, then fine, have them investigated and deal with them in the appropriate manner. Not go around needlessly trashing a player's reputation in public before that has even taken place. That does no one any favors and doesn't project the entire online chess community in positive light either.
This is not player reputation. The questions about glances are very reasonable. If you would watch original content of Kramnik you might change your mind. I liked Daniel in past. But he really behaved in a bad manner insulting Kramnik personally since the begin. Now Daniel is "playing " a victim.
@@asdkpi6897 _The questions about glances are very reasonable_ - And I agree. My point, is to handle anything like this in an appropriate manner that is fair to everyone.
@channelsixtyseven067 OK, but what manner would be appropriate? Kramnik offered a game and published videos with questions. That's it. What Dan is doing in a response? He recorded a video calling Kramnik "an evil" (a direct quote), made a prank with laptop in his room... sorry, but is this appropriate and fair manner?
@@asdkpi6897 _OK, but what manner would be appropriate_ = That would be up to the site host, but something that is privately and not a public slanging match.
@Chessanddrama God bless the world of chess! Nothing ever happens in sudoku! I heard that cute guy is being scrutinized by Kramnik too, his name is Danya? What's up with that?
Honestly if chess GM’s are going after each other then what does that really say about chess in general!! To spend so much time becoming a GM and then ruin it. Give your heads a shake. Us low level players are laughing at you 😊
Chess people do not want fans to watch chess just because of the drama. If that is the case, then I would rather chess be unpopular, not to be popular for all the wrong reasons.
Yes, in video games there are often creative ways to convict ch3aters using certain methods. In chess the excuse is always "that was intuition and the move cannot be explained". I can only recommend that people watch the biggest scandals in video game history by Karl Jobst or "the biggest ch3ting scandal in track mania history" and so on and then go back to Kramnik and listen to everything. And then you should compare Danya's behavior with that of ch3aters who have already been convicted. Of course you can never be 100% sure. But there is a lot of circumstantial evidence against Danya and it is his reaction to Kramnik's entirely justified criticism that has brought me more into the "Kramnik camp". I am now very sure that Danya is a ch3ater.
"Hmm, this is an interesting position, let's see whether looking around instantly gives me an idea of how to approach this problem. Ah, this is an interesting move."
Lmao u funny asf, but danya's online rapid isn't even 400 point different from his otb classical... assuming u mean blitz, then even Hikaru's online blitz is 500 above his classical, and so is Magnus' online blitz, so are you just accusing everyone of cheating? Be serious bro, and also know the difference between blitz and rapid.
@@КлюевСергей-э5с we can assure you we are not doing anything. Our purpose is to just bring in the news. Maybe there's an issue from your side with the internet or so. Feel free to comment again.
in the end the “norm” is just a mask, in the age of individuality, people continue to get high by huddling together in a collective group to express opinions not their own, but what will benefit them
Guys, with such channel you are killing chess. Kramnik should not be right all the time. But you insult him and provoke cheaters to cheat. Sure, in 1 year Kramnik will lose this fight with such bullet campaign of yours. But in 5-7 years you will see only cheaters playing with each other and the winner will be those one to use the engine the most. 😅
@@asdkpi6897 this channel is just meant to cover drama, not sure what else are you seeing it as. Since the Danya-Kramnik drama was the one recently going on in chess, we are bringing it to people who missed it and wish to watch it again through different ways. We will be covering any sort of chess drama - not only this. Besides this channel is also for sharing best chess games, random chess clips and highlights from the world of chess. P.S - we are not insulting Kramnik. We are just bringing the reactions that top GMs and chess players have had on them. We are not necessarily "supporting" someone, we understand both side of the situation and our job is to bring the news in bits and pieces, that is digestible manner because a lot of things happened in the past week or so. We duly hope that our stance is understandable and what is the goal of this channel.
@Chessanddrama thanks for your reply, guys) Just try to stay objective to take care about the game. To me personally this video was made to make fun of Kramnik and to show how stupid he is. That's why I did not like it. The mission of Kramnik is important for chess (even if he is not right on everything). If other players like Nakamura would support Kramnik in the fight against cheaters instead of insulting him with "f*ck off", then the chess would become cleaner much quicker. What Nakamura is doing? Nothing. So, I don't understand such behaviour. And I don't understand videos promoting such behaviour. Would you make a video checking Kramnik content and his reasonable questions? Would you check the first reply of Naroditsky when he calls Kramnik "an evil"?
And Danya have himself said it was stupid that he did check the engine while waiting for his opponent to resign. He didnt check it to win. Stop making it into something that its not.
@@whooligan1000 if you are being objective, why do you not believe that Danya started the engine to explain the opening to viewers. You really think he needs an engine to beat a 1100 with a +6 advantage
Ah a slightly altered version of the "oh yeah, but what have you done?" that kids throw at each other on the playground which most of us grow out of in our teens when our cognitive abilities improve. .As if professional success supersedes general morality. If that's the case then a lot of succesfull people don't deserve to be in jail as we speak. Hitler probably also had more political power than all of his haters combined.
Interesting how those two things have to be connected for you. Nationalism and which side of an argument is defensible. Kramnik is not accusing yes? it's just a special operation.
@@Reflexzzzz special operation to destroy top talents careers? He even "questions" guys like Nihal, David Navara, Turkish youngsters etc. I am sorry, but Kramnik is a joke at this point
@@AdityaPal_sciencepal He was being sarcastic implying it's like how Putin doesn't call Ukraine invasion an invasion but a special military operation in the same way that Kramnik does not call it "accusation" but only "questioning".
@@AdityaPal_sciencepalwhy are you in every comment desperate to be so right in the allegation scandal. If you had even two brain cells you would know how Kramnik cleanly exposed sus Danya with that logic of reflections and Danyas eyeball movements.
@@LeTzPlaY100 He is correct in his views. That cheating is there and a lot of people close their eyes. Even platforms. Or top GMs. In any other sport if someone shows great results without doping check, you would automatically assume what happened. But in chess, no. He cant be cheating, he is such a good guy. But the way Kramnik does what he does, is wrong, I agree. He just starts calling out dudes without proper base evidence and starts attacking them. Idk, seems weird. He could of done what he does much better. His methods need revision. But his goal is correct I think.
@ of course his goals are correct. No one is disputing that. Everyone's dispute has always been with his methods. If your goal is right but your methods are wrong, that still makes it wrong. So yeah i feel like we're on the same side so i'll leave it at that but to clarify, you just helped prove why kramnik is in the wrong in this situation.
@@theworldofwoo8320 this is mainly chess drama channel and the most recent drama that has happened in chess till now. Will definitely put up something else if it happens, in the meantime definitely planning to upload random chess clips and games. Stay tuned!
He's not crazy in the absolute sense of the word. I always think of a true crazy person to be something like: "their range of actions at any given moment is so big, you can't even remotely predict them." You can't establish a baseline. At any point they can go from having a relaxed chat with you about the weather, to then try to stab you in the gut with a pen they're holding in their hand. That's a truly crazy person. In the loose sense of the word, the way people use it casually, it can fit Kramnik, but I think "delusional" is better. In a vacuum, Kramnik makes some reasonable points, and can be totally correct, so I think it's clear that he can think, and think relatively well. Kramniks problem though, is his ego. He's aware enough to see possible psychological mechanisms and motivations of others, and attempts to analyze them, but he's not aware enough of his own psychological (defense) mechanisms that his mind is constantly using to deal with arguments from others and to solve internal conflicts. That's where he's truly lacking: maturity, and in this way, also wisdom. From this, and the recent (translated) "debate" in Russian, I can reasonably build a personality profile, where I think it's very likely Kramnik rarely, if ever, admits fault, or apologizes. This is a general take, and not specific to chess. I suspect his children will have experienced this side of him. Having had a father myself who never admitted fault or said sorry until I managed to break through to him by sheer persistence (and love, I think the love part was the most important bit), and we both matured together, I can definitely see how easily this could fit Kramnik.
He's a psycho and a lunatic, a wicked and evil person. He sees that he's irrelevant in the world of chess right now, so all he does is create videos where he attacks the new generation of players.
Kramnik was busy deleting the negative comments in his yt channel these days 😅
I appreciate the channels that do analysis so that I don't have to watch Kramnik's streams and therefore give him views.
but they distort what kramnik actually said!
@@scabinicgaming905Kramnik has a distorted world view so it doesn’t mean much.
I'd recommend you to go straight to the source of information.
You all clowns will one day agree with shame Kramnik is 100% right exposing sus Danya
Vlad the Implier
Vey catchy and clever!!
Not a terrible idea for a channel to capitalize on this drama lmao
Finally. A channel for chess drama. I would like to live here
Nah bro, this is a channel for chess DRAMA, you gotta understand the skill dif between 'drama' and 'DRAMA', this is DRAMA, this is C I N E M A, or something like that, idk, I haven't seen the Tourist.
Kramnik is likely just doing this because he feels irrelevant. These streamers gets far more fame than he ever had outside of Russia despite being in his mind likely unworthy due to being worse players. He cant handle that situation nor handle the fact of him losing to younger players due to him no longer being at his peak. Its all about ego and not about protecting chess.
The last 2 words in the video summarize all Daniel had to tell Vlad from the beginning.
Kramnik makes his analysis videos and then deletes all the comments that are refuting him so that it would seem that everyone agrees with him. Such a clown
justice for danya
Dina translating she's always listening is funniest stuff in this drama xD "ona vas slyshy, ona vas slyshy" hahahhaha xD
Kramnik needs to prove that he doesn't have apophenia.
This will become like inception if reactions happen on this video then so on 😅
Holy moly. This drama is still going on that I thought it could become a movie at this point.
Kramnik seems to have stopped putting videos out. The C2 podcast seemed to be the point where he threw the last volley.
Kram just is falling off, newer players go deep into stockfish lines 20 plus or more in certain lines that they are peepared in and know best... its a new age of chess. The edges are sharper and hes aging and from a bygone era
he was over 2800 just 6 years ago, he's hardly a dinosaur. I know in the internet anything over a week ago is ancient history, but Kramnik is still an extremely strong player.
Of course he was a world-class player in his prime and is still very strong today, but that doesn’t mean he understands statistics. It’s very sad to see a player I respected go down this path of delusional paranoia
Real Housewives of Grandmaster chess. 😂
The bok conspiracy theory is the best moment of this video 😂
It is good to mention that Magnus win him with 1...h6 i 3...a6 in first 3 moves, in October 2024.
Kram is aging about as well as cram from fallout
Dina is so brave for doing this ❤❤❤
If there are concerns about players cheating, then fine, have them investigated and deal with them in the appropriate manner. Not go around needlessly trashing a player's reputation in public before that has even taken place. That does no one any favors and doesn't project the entire online chess community in positive light either.
This is not player reputation. The questions about glances are very reasonable. If you would watch original content of Kramnik you might change your mind.
I liked Daniel in past. But he really behaved in a bad manner insulting Kramnik personally since the begin. Now Daniel is "playing " a victim.
@@asdkpi6897 _The questions about glances are very reasonable_ - And I agree. My point, is to handle anything like this in an appropriate manner that is fair to everyone.
@channelsixtyseven067 OK, but what manner would be appropriate? Kramnik offered a game and published videos with questions. That's it. What Dan is doing in a response? He recorded a video calling Kramnik "an evil" (a direct quote), made a prank with laptop in his room... sorry, but is this appropriate and fair manner?
@@asdkpi6897 _OK, but what manner would be appropriate_ = That would be up to the site host, but something that is privately and not a public slanging match.
Its always a sad day when im on hikarus side.
Ah, morning tea! I don't even play chess, I'm a sudoku player, and this shit is so entertaining??
@@messupd welcome to the world of chess! This happens almost every now and then :D
@Chessanddrama God bless the world of chess! Nothing ever happens in sudoku!
I heard that cute guy is being scrutinized by Kramnik too, his name is Danya? What's up with that?
Kramnik needs professional help asap!
Wow kramnik might have been paid to do this!
russian puppet theory vs old man yells at clouds for cheating theory
Do you think Karenmnik was just Putin to attack the western chess org?
Honestly if chess GM’s are going after each other then what does that really say about chess in general!! To spend so much time becoming a GM and then ruin it. Give your heads a shake. Us low level players are laughing at you 😊
I mean without drama who’d watch chess ?
Nerds like me…🙄
Chess people do not want fans to watch chess just because of the drama. If that is the case, then I would rather chess be unpopular, not to be popular for all the wrong reasons.
@@theowalcott102 who are you why are you talking to me ?
A lot of people
@ who is this guy?
Yes, in video games there are often creative ways to convict ch3aters using certain methods. In chess the excuse is always "that was intuition and the move cannot be explained".
I can only recommend that people watch the biggest scandals in video game history by Karl Jobst or "the biggest ch3ting scandal in track mania history" and so on and then go back to Kramnik and listen to everything. And then you should compare Danya's behavior with that of ch3aters who have already been convicted.
Of course you can never be 100% sure. But there is a lot of circumstantial evidence against Danya and it is his reaction to Kramnik's entirely justified criticism that has brought me more into the "Kramnik camp". I am now very sure that Danya is a ch3ater.
Shut up
Shut it
You can't really compare video game cheating to cheating in chess. Kramniks evidence is flimsy at best.
"Hmm, this is an interesting position, let's see whether looking around instantly gives me an idea of how to approach this problem. Ah, this is an interesting move."
hi
@@kek2635 hello
This Cold War chess thing is annoying,plus makes Americans look good cause of some people's paranoia (btw it should have been pronounced paranEa).
"No one is hated more than a honest man"
-Plato
Truth hurts!
No one, not a single sausage can explain Danya's 400 elo point difference between otb classical and online rapid.
Lmao u funny asf, but danya's online rapid isn't even 400 point different from his otb classical... assuming u mean blitz, then even Hikaru's online blitz is 500 above his classical, and so is Magnus' online blitz, so are you just accusing everyone of cheating? Be serious bro, and also know the difference between blitz and rapid.
bro is stupid
“Can you lose so I can catch Hikaru?” th-cam.com/video/0YEsZVZ14_I/w-d-xo.htmlsi=1H5x0rB5MieYK52E
@@КлюевСергей-э5с so Danya is not allowed to joke any more? Kramnik bots shifting focus coz they have clearly lost the cheating battle
Hey guys, are you deleting all the comments contrary to your narrative? Seriously?
@@КлюевСергей-э5с we are not deleting any comments, in case if that was the question to the admin of the channel.
@@Chessanddramawell ok, mine disappeared, in support of Kramnik.
@@КлюевСергей-э5с we can assure you we are not doing anything. Our purpose is to just bring in the news. Maybe there's an issue from your side with the internet or so. Feel free to comment again.
@@КлюевСергей-э5сKramnik right button. All these clowns brainwashed
in the end the “norm” is just a mask, in the age of individuality, people continue to get high by huddling together in a collective group to express opinions not their own, but what will benefit them
Didn't matter how many chess players united against Kramnik back in the day. He dominated them all. He's an all time GOAT.
Guys, with such channel you are killing chess. Kramnik should not be right all the time. But you insult him and provoke cheaters to cheat.
Sure, in 1 year Kramnik will lose this fight with such bullet campaign of yours. But in 5-7 years you will see only cheaters playing with each other and the winner will be those one to use the engine the most. 😅
@@asdkpi6897 this channel is just meant to cover drama, not sure what else are you seeing it as. Since the Danya-Kramnik drama was the one recently going on in chess, we are bringing it to people who missed it and wish to watch it again through different ways. We will be covering any sort of chess drama - not only this. Besides this channel is also for sharing best chess games, random chess clips and highlights from the world of chess.
P.S - we are not insulting Kramnik. We are just bringing the reactions that top GMs and chess players have had on them. We are not necessarily "supporting" someone, we understand both side of the situation and our job is to bring the news in bits and pieces, that is digestible manner because a lot of things happened in the past week or so.
We duly hope that our stance is understandable and what is the goal of this channel.
@Chessanddrama thanks for your reply, guys) Just try to stay objective to take care about the game.
To me personally this video was made to make fun of Kramnik and to show how stupid he is. That's why I did not like it. The mission of Kramnik is important for chess (even if he is not right on everything).
If other players like Nakamura would support Kramnik in the fight against cheaters instead of insulting him with "f*ck off", then the chess would become cleaner much quicker. What Nakamura is doing? Nothing. So, I don't understand such behaviour. And I don't understand videos promoting such behaviour.
Would you make a video checking Kramnik content and his reasonable questions?
Would you check the first reply of Naroditsky when he calls Kramnik "an evil"?
Kramnik was correct that he shouldn't have been using an engine while playing. How can anyone defend that?
And Danya have himself said it was stupid that he did check the engine while waiting for his opponent to resign. He didnt check it to win. Stop making it into something that its not.
@philipberggren1823 if you believe Danya. He shouldn't be using an engine at all during a game - simple. He did and he got busted
It's not that hard to defend when put into context. It was, for all intents and purposes, an unranked instructional game
I'm no Kramnik fan and I'm not trying to make it into anything, I'm just trying to be objective. The fact stands: Danya got caught using an engine
@@whooligan1000 if you are being objective, why do you not believe that Danya started the engine to explain the opening to viewers. You really think he needs an engine to beat a 1100 with a +6 advantage
Kramink had more world championship titles then all his haters combined... And that's just a fact
someone please DM Magnus to see if he hates Kramnik lol
@@Samy-j9h nah
@@怪人-b1x
That sounds like a typical "how dare you?!" Danya response.
Ah a slightly altered version of the "oh yeah, but what have you done?" that kids throw at each other on the playground which most of us grow out of in our teens when our cognitive abilities improve. .As if professional success supersedes general morality. If that's the case then a lot of succesfull people don't deserve to be in jail as we speak. Hitler probably also had more political power than all of his haters combined.
Also my dad can beat Kramnik's dad
Uniting but not giving any arguments whatsoever.
It's not on them or anyone to prove he's not a cheater
i stand with russia , i stand with kramnnik
@@Ps_10_10 kramnik does not even live in Russia any more lol
Interesting how those two things have to be connected for you. Nationalism and which side of an argument is defensible.
Kramnik is not accusing yes? it's just a special operation.
@@Reflexzzzz special operation to destroy top talents careers? He even "questions" guys like Nihal, David Navara, Turkish youngsters etc. I am sorry, but Kramnik is a joke at this point
@@AdityaPal_sciencepal He was being sarcastic implying it's like how Putin doesn't call Ukraine invasion an invasion but a special military operation in the same way that Kramnik does not call it "accusation" but only "questioning".
@@AdityaPal_sciencepalwhy are you in every comment desperate to be so right in the allegation scandal. If you had even two brain cells you would know how Kramnik cleanly exposed sus Danya with that logic of reflections and Danyas eyeball movements.
Guess what he is so right... not crazy....
What was he right about?
@@LeTzPlaY100 nothing
@@AdityaPal_sciencepal i agree but i want to hear from him. You can't just say that something is right then refuse to elaborate.
@@LeTzPlaY100 He is correct in his views. That cheating is there and a lot of people close their eyes. Even platforms. Or top GMs.
In any other sport if someone shows great results without doping check, you would automatically assume what happened.
But in chess, no. He cant be cheating, he is such a good guy.
But the way Kramnik does what he does, is wrong, I agree.
He just starts calling out dudes without proper base evidence and starts attacking them. Idk, seems weird.
He could of done what he does much better. His methods need revision. But his goal is correct I think.
@ of course his goals are correct. No one is disputing that. Everyone's dispute has always been with his methods.
If your goal is right but your methods are wrong, that still makes it wrong. So yeah i feel like we're on the same side so i'll leave it at that but to clarify, you just helped prove why kramnik is in the wrong in this situation.
Can you put on some real content? This kramnik garbage is old. I don't care about these b list streamers
@@theworldofwoo8320 this is mainly chess drama channel and the most recent drama that has happened in chess till now. Will definitely put up something else if it happens, in the meantime definitely planning to upload random chess clips and games. Stay tuned!
He might be wrong, but he’s definitely not crazy
He is pretty much on the border
More like, he might not be wrong, but he's definitely crazy
I'm pretty sure Kramnik is wrong and he is also crazy.
He's not crazy in the absolute sense of the word. I always think of a true crazy person to be something like: "their range of actions at any given moment is so big, you can't even remotely predict them." You can't establish a baseline. At any point they can go from having a relaxed chat with you about the weather, to then try to stab you in the gut with a pen they're holding in their hand. That's a truly crazy person.
In the loose sense of the word, the way people use it casually, it can fit Kramnik, but I think "delusional" is better. In a vacuum, Kramnik makes some reasonable points, and can be totally correct, so I think it's clear that he can think, and think relatively well. Kramniks problem though, is his ego. He's aware enough to see possible psychological mechanisms and motivations of others, and attempts to analyze them, but he's not aware enough of his own psychological (defense) mechanisms that his mind is constantly using to deal with arguments from others and to solve internal conflicts. That's where he's truly lacking: maturity, and in this way, also wisdom.
From this, and the recent (translated) "debate" in Russian, I can reasonably build a personality profile, where I think it's very likely Kramnik rarely, if ever, admits fault, or apologizes. This is a general take, and not specific to chess. I suspect his children will have experienced this side of him. Having had a father myself who never admitted fault or said sorry until I managed to break through to him by sheer persistence (and love, I think the love part was the most important bit), and we both matured together, I can definitely see how easily this could fit Kramnik.
He's a psycho and a lunatic, a wicked and evil person. He sees that he's irrelevant in the world of chess right now, so all he does is create videos where he attacks the new generation of players.