2016 GMC Canyon Duramax Diesel takes on the Extreme Ike Gauntlet Towing Review
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Andre wins the quote of the year..."It's like a big truck but small". Classic!
Yup, Andre's quote is gonna go viral. Lol. Good one!
Yeah, he aint the sharpest. Mr truck is.
Mine is now 4 yrs old. Excellent milage and plenty of power.
I absolutely love my Canyon Duramax. Had it little over a week, and put over 600mi on it and have averaged 25mpg with mixed city/rural driving. Wish these trucks would have been produced years ago.
madden
Do you sill have the truck? How do/did you like it?
Yeah but aren't they way more expensive than the regular Canyons? So whatever you can save on Diesel goes out the window.
The v6 was a minute faster, but I'm still really impressed with the diesel. The gas one spent basically the whole run at 6000 rpm and got like half the gas mileage. I don't think the V6 is going to last very long running 6000 rpm. The diesel just hummed along at 2500 -3000 rpm. I really want one of these trucks.
The 2.8 diesel really demands a tune. Very underpowered from the factory. Should be making power closer to the 3.0l found in BMW which is 260hp/420ftlb
Tyler Padgett do you know a company that offers tunes or parts for these?
@@husky701rider9 Seems like there is a couple, including Duramax Tuner (www.dieselworldmag.com/diesel-technology/minimax-upgrades/). Guessing this engine could really be helped by the 20-30 extra horsepower these tunes provide. Though then the GM warranty would be at risk.
@@jimsomerville3924 the dsp4 tune actually provides approx 60hp and 80ft lbs on full power. With my upgrades I'm pushing 300hp and 500 ft/lbs.
I have the 2017 GMC Denali Duramax and I drive 36 miles to work each day. I get between 36 to 39 mpg commuting at 65 mph on cruise control. My best commute was 42.4 mpg. I love this truck.
4x4 or 2w drive? Seriously looking at these
There is no way in hell you are getting that mileage.....
Come September, this will be my next truck, In Denali trim!
My son and I bought 2 2016 GMC Canyon Diesel and we love them, great video! Thank you so much
wow, thats incredible for a little 4 diesel. seriously great truck.
When this engine was first released in Brazil, back in 2013, it also had 180HP. But after a year or so they upgraded it to 200HP. I never heard of any major issues with this engine, and the Chevy Colorado (we still call it S10), has always being the best selling truck here.
I have been waiting for this episode! Good job GM, (Once again).
My Full Size 2005 GMC Crew Cab Fully Loaded with a 5.3 Got 11MPG at 60mph Pulling a 10,000 Trailer from Minnesota to Florida and even saw 15MPG at times. I paid $10,000 for it in 2009.
the canyon in green is GORGEOUS
britton forest metallic green.
That split view was pretty cool
Hey tfl, great video as always. Thank you guys and your crew for finally getting around to running this truck up the ike.
I hope the aftermarket embraces this engine like they do the bigger diesel engines. Ive seen other videos oversea's with this truck with a tune on a dyno and its really not that bad. This engine once apon a time was here in the U.S.A in the Jeep liberty and it didn't last to long I belive due to sales. The price is a little high and I agree with the added gadgets in it to make it worth being a 43k truck. Great job to GM for having a set of you know what and bringing it here to the states. I seen nissan frontier videos with a 4TB Cummins style diesel in development and would love to see it become a reality. Its a great time to be a truck / muscle car guy!
that is a really nice truck. I had one for a week as review and I drove nearly 400km with it. IT was a nice little truck. Even when driving like a complete maniac, the fuel ecenomy is outstanding and you can still have fun with it in the snow if you force 2WD(RWD).
It would be nice at the end of the video you show us a current running of all the trucks in the class for a comparison
Great idea. We have done this with some other videos. This year, the only competitor was the 2016 Toyota Tacoma.
The Fast Lane Truck
Nissan Frontier...?
The Fast Lane Truck what is the song @ 0:16
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Dumb azz... Does it matter what's the song? It's about this little truck.
Can't wait for the ZR2 real off road package comming next year. This crew cab+ diesel +ZR2 would be perfect. In the meantime I'll stick to my 2007 3.5 i5 canyon thats been trouble free.
Should be getting mine this week! Pretty excited as i'm not a big truck guy, but this midsize should be what I need for good daily driver mpg and more than capable at towing my track car.
+Tom Jones An outback XT could tow your race car. Why buy a big expensive truck?
+headcas620 Maybe he just wanted to buy one, and not a Subaru..
+headcas620 and bc out backs are a piece of shit that are too long
Ivan Ascencio Too long? They're shorter than a truck...
+headcas620 they're really not lmao, they're longer than most full size suv's, so how can they be shorter than a truck lol.
Thanks guys great video Keep Up The Good Work✌️👍
Nice review guys. I've been waiting to see how the little Duramax turns out. I do have a question though about your scoring system. How was 6 mpg determined for the fuel mileage benchmark? You have have answered that before already and I missed it. Anyways, keep up the great reviews.
Kent's metric for the dimensions of a truck: can I get in with my hat on? 😂
I like my 19 SLE V6. It is a very confident tow vehicle.
TFLTruck, Thanks for another review.. I was anxious to see this one as I own an ECODIesel (Big Horn 4x4). Looks like it's a nice truck and you can't go wrong with a Duramax power plant, but IMO this vehicle is way over priced compared to what you can get a full-sized one for. I know I paid quite a bit less than for my RAM than what that truck costs. I did wanted to point out that you need to keep in mind when mention pricing on the ECODiesel option that the cost depends on what model you purchase. If buying some models (HFE) the ECODiesel is standard. In the Big Horn HEMI is standard, so cost only $3120, if you get a Outdoorsman, then $4270. Keep the reviews coming,ThanksJZ
It would be great to see you guys do this with one of these tuned, engine and trans.
My gf bought a 2017 with 15k kilometers on it...Z71 package n loves it
Great review. What size length and width is the trailer you guys are using on this test? Thank you!
Pretty interesting stuff; maybe GM will offer more axle options for the diesel if it becomes popular enough. I've heard there's a ZR2 being spotted in the wild lately as well. I'm interested in what they have decided to use to power that platform. I'm hoping for a V8 or supercharged V6 at least.
Awesome little (rather midsize ) truck!
This segment /size pickup is very popular in Mexico. Nissan sells the np300 with a strong little diesel engine
Hi guys. I watch a lot of your videos and am usually very happy with them. I have a question. When are you going to take a Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk with the 3.2L V6 and factory tow group up the Ike Gauntlet? It is Jeep's best selling model (the Cherokee) and a lot of people like me tow with it. Thanks for considering my suggestion. Keep up the great videos.
Ready to see if the 2018 with the 8 speed is much better
Now that I have put a bunch of miles on my 2018 Colorado I think I know why it slowed down on the Ike.....
Long hill has caused high EGTs and the computer has reduced power.
I tow heavy with mine and the little diesel is very impressive.
I hate towing with a gas engine and an automatic transmission. All you get is a screaming engine.
Are there different segments for the golden hitch awards? I love how the rating for this is so much higher than the F150 and Silverado. I love my '08 Canyon.
Great stuff, you guys rock! Im happy i picked a winner :)
Needs a good 8 speed transmission, that locks in 7th and 8th gear for direct drive, no torque converter losses. Coming soon, in 2017 in the Denali version.
Full-sized truck pricing on a mid-size pickup is crazy to me..
+Jay Smith your looking at about $92k for that up here in Canada. big differnce between the two trucks.
+snooplikesbacon that's because Canadian money is worth a lot less
+Bailey O. that has nothing to do with it? lol. vehicles up here have always been more expensive then in the U.S. it's just how it is.
***** huh?
The price for diesel is crazy. North America is the only place in the world where diesel is a $$$ option. Everywhere else it's an option with no extra charge. Regardless, I still want the Canyon diesel because it's so cool.
Can you please put up a link for the backup camera? I've looked high and low for that exact camera but haven't come across it yet. There's a similar one with out the large monitor I see in this video.
You guys better be doing an MPG test!!! Towing and unloaded, please? :)
mine gets average of 29.2 on the highway and if you keep it around 67 mph I can get 31.7 but it is on pretty flat ground. 26 in town
Ok just imagine this. That GM finished development and brought to market, the 4.5 DuraMax they were working on before the troubled times! Then go an use that 4.5 as an optimal option in the Canyon/Colorado twins! With the 8 speed and 3:42 gears. Wow something like 300 hp and 420 lbs. ft. Tq! That would be an amazing truck I would pay over 40k for willingly!
Test the 5.7 Hemi vs 6.4 Hemi 0-60 with & without trailer just on flat surface.
Those that are bashing the speed going up the hill, don't forget, the diesel Canyon is pulling about 700 more lbs up the hill than the gas Canyon and the diesel is not designed for speed, but for torque.
One thing to remember, when you pay extra for a diesel up front, you also get more at trade than a gas when you resell. I look at it as an investment for mpg and towing that I get something back from. If you look at a diesel's up front cost only as fuel savings, it will take forever to get your money back compared to a gasser. But when you sell that diesel and get more than a gasser back, then look at your total cost of ownership, a diesel will usually win, even with higher costs for oil changes.
Very cool. The diesel already appears to be paying off on MPG. I was surprised when you said the truck felt quick at the start of the uphill portion. This is an expensive package, but at the same time this is a lot of truck considering it's maxed out. It still may not tow as much as the gas half-tons, but it'll win on MPG every time.
Sounds like this truck holds onto the diesel tradition of being the better overall haulers, with better road manners compared to their gas counterparts.
+danturbo316
agree..unless your hauling very heavy loads a gas will do the job for your average 5th wheel or conventional. But it's definitely a preference. I paid $8000 more for my 6.7 powerstroke plus maintenance over five years is $4000. $12000 is a lot of gas.
danturbo316
Depends on the customer. Some will use it enough to make up the cost; others will buy it because it's a diesel. The diesel and its features can be optioned onto a 4x2 Colorado for an MSRP of about $35,200, and that even has a few options, so businesses can get into that truck for not much more than they spend already for a full-size. Also, if the diesel version has the capability to get between 8 and 14 MPG better than the gas V6 without a load attached, the mileage gap will close faster.
The only thing that can be done right now is to see how the market responds to this offering.
+SurelyYewJest
You nailed it.
I sure like the fact that it is an in line motor
The way I'm seeing this truck is that it's the ultimate road trip vehicule... think about it : it has the most storage (with 6 foot bed) and the best mileage period. If you drive a lot 15k + miles per year, this is the ultimate ride you can get...
Rudy Desjardins agreed. I live in Southern California and I do fishing trips to Baja that are roughly 450 miles each way. it's nice to have a long fuel range in these trucks and they are pretty comfortable too
i wonder how this truck would do on the ike gauntlet with a bigger turbo and a nice tune.
What is the make and model of the trailer rear camera you mentioned? I've tried googling it but can't seem to find one that looks like that.
That's a great score. A little slow but it makes up for it everywhere else. I'm sure once the tuners get to it, they will bump the HP to +240 with probably 450+ ftlb. Biggest complaint is that it's too expensive to buy brand new. Best to wait 3-year with 40,000 miles.
+Quang Nguyen what pushes you up a hill is hp not torque. horsepower = torque x rpm so thats why diesels, reving only until 4000rpm, have that much torque but not that much hp.
The benefits of diesels are in normal situations where having lots of torque means you don't need that much rpm to produce the power needed.
@@genisandreu3059 Torque absolutely helps you up the hill. The more torque you have the less you have to rev your engine out for power.
So saying "torque isn't what pushes you up hills" is just not accurate.
although the time was longer than expected, I believe that the diesel engine will last much longer doing this type of work then the gas 6 cylinders. The torque should limit wear and tear on the engine where as the gas relies a little more on it's horsepower. That's just my 2 cents! I love the idea of these diesels. I would love if more manufacturers used diesel. I said I would love if you could get a Volkswagen tiguan with the diesel!
If I were pulling a maximum load up a steep incline, I would have used the manuel mode for the transmission. This avoids " gear searching" and wasting gas when the torque converter is used instead of locking up the transmission. For most driving the tow mode would be fine.
Huh?
I have a 2015. Would you recommend pulling a 23’ camper at about 4000 lbs dry weight?
I like the split view
How did it tow that trailer where it's flat? I'm down in FL where it's flat but will be towing a similar trailer and hoping to get 70mph cruising speed without having to kill the motor.
If someone was going to tow a 7000 pound trailer once a month, would you have any reservations about using this truck for that? Would you recommend stepping up to a half ton for regular towing within 1000 lbs of the Colorado's max rating?
What was the average transmission temperature during the test?
Does the Denali come with turn signal indicators and courtesy lights?
These trucks respond well to a tune. Night and day deference
$44,000 for a mid-size truck?!? I actually yelled out at the monitor "GTFO". Wife asked what happened.
lmao that's what I said
Thinking about it I would say the way they are giving out financing so easy these days, why not, Its just like the housing bubble. Remember how crazy the prices of homes went up. Stop buying and financing and the prices will drop on all vehicles.
I paid $35000 for a new 4x4 Ram Ecodiesel. It gets 30 mpg at 60mph, 21mpg towing 7000lbs.
there junk. sell it.
It's just about fully loaded!.
2.7 became HISTORY 😢
I'm really curious: what kind of camcorders are you using in the Canyon's cab? They don't look like GoPros.
Sony ActionCam
In my experience any diesel truck actually performs better, speed & power (torque), under a load rather than without. Just my experience
The jeep they hated finished in 8:53 with 15.3 mpg, the duramax, 8:55 and 6.7 mpg.
Thoughts about transmission temperature?! Or differential temp? My 2016 canyon v6 struggled to pull a 4,000lb camping trailer up any incline with the transmission temperature climbing over 220 degrees! After my trip I took it to the dealer to get fresh transmission fluid and filter. I’m selling my trailer because the canyon doesn’t pull it. I like the idea of the Diesel engine for this truck. I don’t understand why they can’t put a bigger diesel motor in it though. Any thoughts about that?!
I’ve pulled 14k with my 2.8 Diesel
Anyway you guys can get your hands on a Ram eco-diesel? While they are different sized trucks I think would be diesel buyers are comparing Ram and GM baby diesels. Very similar MPG and price point.
We tested an EcoDiesel on the Ike last year, but with a different trailer.
i was 5 seconds off from my time guessed in the forum. Looking forward to the 5 liter eater
Posted two days ago?
you can watch them before they are publicly viewable on youtube from their forum
12:45 "You can't find much wrong with it", great truck with lots of useful towind features (as standard!) and yet only 19 points from Kent? Did I miss something?
+sic22l Kent mentioned: he wanted to see more power, and the price of this truck is relatively high.
The Fast Lane Truck But that's still pretty low score for a truck that have been praised as impressively safe and controllable going both ways.
Same here. His score didn't match his truck chubby.
How much of a difference do Y"All think it would make if they brought the hp up to 200?Would that be enough or does it need more?
its the pricing
I really like the green color of this truck. But I'm a Ford Truck guy.
Do you guys film the downhill portion before or after the climb? I know its shown at the beginning of the video but with editing you never know.
Downhill is filmed first.
+The Fast Lane Truck Would it help much if they boosted hp up to 200 but kept same torque?
T Ritchie check out Duramax tuner for their tuning of the 2.8dmax. impressive stuff and it's only the beginning
Do these Duramax diesels start ok when it's extremely cold? Do they have an engine block heater that you have to plug in?
the lowest temps i have started my truck is around 0F. they have engine block heaters, but have to be ordered. mine does not have it and had no problems starting.
Does anyone think the price they charge to option 4wd is a bit high? It's about 7 grand, more than any of the full size trucks by the big 3. Seems like it pushes this into the full size truck price. When you factor in the mark downs that are done around March, it makes this more expensive than a full size optioned in a similar manner. Seems like this is for people who will pay whatever to have exactly what they want vs someone who wants to buy a truck but still do it when it's a good value.
I'd like to see you re-test the v6 at 51mph and see what the mpg is
Why don't you guys run the Ike Gauntlet with large 5th wheels or travel trailers? That would better represent towing ability with frontal area on the trailer and sway control on the truck.
Can you Do an Ike gauntlet with a cummins with a 6 speed manual
What is that Orange thing on the windshield above the driver?
That's great when are you guys gonna do the Ridgeline
They test trucks. The ridgeline is a unibody car.
its a unibody truck
+Howard King no, it's a car with a truck bed.
What do you do when your going down this hill do you put it in low? Towing mode? Some brake thing you were talking about?
+James Stencil It has a Tow Haul mode, in which activates the exhaust brake system
+manorin oh, thank you
Probably pretty similar to my airstream sprinter 3.5 diesel. Faster than big rigs at least. Hard to find with an extended cab optioned-out. If they are trying to appeal to gen xers we are now empty-nesters that's for 30-somethings with kids to me. I need to haul stuff not child seats
I just wish you could order the diesel on the lower models with extended cab. You can only order it on the top end model with crew cab.
I'm pretty sure the Duramax Colorado starts at just under 30k.
Jonathan Roberson I'm not talking price, I'm talking trim level and cab size. So far as I see it's only available in the Z71 package and only in crew cab starting at 35,735.00.
I would love to see the jeep wrangler unlimited run the course it would be interesting to see how it does
Nobody should buy a Jeep for towing.
smudgeone what if you own a jeep and a bass boat it is right around the same payload it's not buying it for towing it's the capability of it to do so
Squid. I'm still reeling sticker Shock from full size prices from 55 to 77k? after that 44K sounds better but I agree. I have been prices out of new trucks for years. I'm poor!
I think it just needs a bigger turbo for that elevation? Why does the GM 1500 2.7t gas do better than a 2.8t diesel? Just because the massive turbo?
Where are the results of ALL the trucks scored so that we can compare them against each other? And where is the Ford 5.0L??
They already did it
what pushes you up a hill is hp not torque. horsepower = torque x rpm so why diesels, reving only until 4000rpm, have that much torque but not that much hp.
The benefits of diesels are in normal situations where having lots of torque means you don't need that much rpm to produce the power needed.
+Genís Andreu Rabaña Indeed. After all, if you assumed a mythical drivetrain with zero friction loss, horsepower at the wheel would equal horsepower at the engine. Regardless if the engine is spinning fast and getting that torque multiplied a lot in the transmission, or a more torque-rich engine spinning slower and having it multiplied less, if the engine horsepower is the same in both cases then the equation demands the wheel torque be equal as well provided the same friction loss.
The turbodiesel and turbo gas engines do particularly well in towing because of the torque curve; they tend to make much more torque at low engine speeds. When it gets slowed by a heavy load at higher engine speed, as the rpm go down, the torque goes up, and horsepower doesn't fall all that much. Or another way of looking at it: as the truck slows down, the rpm of the wheels go down, but the torque at the wheel goes UP, so it can match and overcome the increased load.
A normally-aspirated gas engine with a flat torque curve and a linearly-rising horsepower curve can be quick when the rpm is held high and that torque is multiplied in the drivetrain. However, in any given gear, the gas engine makes about the same torque at the wheel at all rpm. That means that if the wheel torque isn't sufficient to maintain speed at a high rpm, then it's certainly not going to be as it slows down (it's essentially staying the same), and the truck will continue to slow until the load is reduced or a transmission downshift multiplies the engine torque more.
irohnic stuff what I was trying to say is that if the vehicle could keep the rpm in the top hp figure all the time (maybe in a cvt) without frictions on the transmission, a 300hp gas and 300hp diesel would be equaly fast, no matters the difference in torque.
+Genís Andreu Rabaña Also correct. Horsepower is horsepower, no matter watt it is coming out of. (sorry, my jokes are not very punny.)
torque gets you there, hp keeps you there
remember this truck is a 4 cylinders diesel 2.8 liters. and yes diesel trucks produce more power and torque. or if this truck is to small for you try to buy a v8 diesel 6.7 power stroke - duramax or cummins. the price will be up to 70000 dlls. or more depends on the model and trim package. you're all welcome.
Would love to see this run your MPG loop. Please!
We did run the towing loop with it, mashed up against the F-150.
Thanks I did see that as well. Was just very curious what the real world highway mileage of this diesel is.
Is this the 4x4 or the 4x2? Not really specified & if it was would it matter? Not sure! (Edit, appears to be 4x4!) Why did MrTruck give a 19 - he didnt mention any negatives...
Lol one year later. Sorry you got so worked up about it
and... seems the diesel market is tiered now to be roughly: $40k for mid; $50k for 1500 full [eg nissan]; and $60k for 2500 HD ?
TFL, in your opinion is the price of the canyon diesel worth that price over the ram ecodiesel after testing both? For that price on the canyon I cannot believe it doesn't come with a keyless ignition, sunroof or wireless charging. I know a bunch of people don't care about any of those options. My point is paying that price for a lack of these. GM I think you went to the grocery store hungry when everyone knows you eat before you go, so you don't spend more money then planned.
+Jeremy m It really depends on if you need a mid-sized truck or a full-sized truck. They both offer exceptional MPG, towing power and an exceptional price tag. Which one would you rather park in your garage..that's a very personal buying decision.
+The Fast Lane Truck Don't you get sick and tired of driving up this bloody hill ? You must wake up some mornings and think, " Oh, sweet Jesus, I've got to drive up the sodding Ike Gauntlet, again ! ".
+MrKeyboardCommando Actually we look forward to it. We have a great little restaurant we have lunch at in Silverthorne, Colorado. We get out of the office and into the beautiful mountains in brand new trucks. It's great day! What get's old is all of the prep before we head up into the mountains and the hard work of editing these videos. All of the logistics and setting up the trucks and trailers in the cold and snow. That's the hard, unseen and crucial part of these IKE videos.
Ram eco diesel is a horrible engine nothing but problems with those engines there junk Ram does not know how to make a deisel thats why they use cummins
+Jeremy m That is so bitch made.
Did GM discontinue the baby Duramax for the Canyon and Colorado??
Yes
yeah man
Do the Ram Rebel
Pricey!! I can get a full size truck with that price, even a full size diesel for a couple more $$$. I wish Toyota made Tocomas diesel #Gameover
Danny Yee that made no sense. a comparable Tacoma isn't that far off in price, yet you wish it would have a diesel which would inevitably come at a premium cost putting it at or over the twins price. so how that a solution to your price complaint?
Jesse Hernandez I was saying the canyon is so over priced thst you can buy a full size truck and for a couple more thousand, you can even get a 2500. I like tocomas, but I can only imagine how expensive they would be if they were diesel. I guess tocomas are just to expensive overall.
Toyota still has drum rear brakes that suck.
They go out of adjustment within 200 miles.
Harsh ride that sucks and it's pricey too.
I remember the first time I heard about the 2.8 litre "Baby Duramax" diesel engine. I remember thinking "at last. A small diesel engine that can fit in most smaller trucks." Why should people who need or want lots of horsepower and torque have to settle for a huge full-sized truck? Not everyone needs *that much* truck, not everyone needs a Chevy/GMC 2500 or 3500. For some people, a medium sized truck is *all they need.* So a small four cylinder diesel should be *all one needs* to have. I just hope this engine catches on. It may not be as popular as the big boys, but so what? You can't please *everyone.* But as long as people can afford to buy it, and that there are places all over North America to keep the engine running. I'd buy the GMC Canyon, just for the Baby Duramax diesel engine. :)
Jason Carpp
you are 100 pct right.
I hate full size trucks.
If I wanted to drive a school bus I would buy one.
Small ones a lot more fun to drive.
I bought a base 4x4 extra cab v6 for 25k. Love the thing.
I hear ya. Larger displacement (6.6 litre) Duramax diesel engines are fine for larger vehicles. Larger trucks, Class A and C Motorhomes, Fire Trucks, School Buses, etc.. But for smaller vehicles, like small/medium sized trucks, smaller motorhomes, most small and medium sized cars, then you want/need a small displacement diesel. It's unforgivable that for the longest time, diesel engines weren't available for drivers of smaller vehicles. I've heard some say that not enough people want small displacement diesel engines. I'm like *"really?!"* I'm sure there are plenty out there who do, car makers just don't want to listen to what we the car buyers say we want. That's bullshit.
I *so* agree. A 6.6 litre Duramax diesel would be fine for larger vehicles. But for small(er) vehicles, the 2.8 litre turbo diesel engine would be the perfect engine. Maybe not *everyone* would want to buy the 2.8 litre Duramax, but I'm sure there are those who *would* want and/or need one, and *should* be allowed the option. :)
I hope ya'll have the f-150 5.0 V8 in the IKE Gauntlet because its been so long to have the V8 from ford. And when ever you get tow or max tow package they should include towing mirrors with the package.
agree..tow package should automatically include max payload. .brake controller. .LT rated tires. .hitch. .and tow mirrors.
+Shackles
And proper coolers
+Shackles And hopefully it will have a diesel engine with the 10 speed automatic transmission.
+Dalton Smith
let's not get carried away. .but isn't it ok to dream.
+Shackles Have you ever seen the video that the f-150 diesel engine on TH-cam.
new from Chevrolet, introducing the Colorado Z77 RAMPAGE, featuring all new long travel lifted suspension, 33" all terrain tires and a robust twin turbocharged 4.3L V6!. just a concept idea, let me know what yall think. please no trolling...
+Collin Favor
There's a ZR2 offroad version coming in 2017 with 30'' all terrans but it wont have a 4.3 in it
Well there we go, throw a turbo 4.3 in that, and some fox shocks, and youv got an awesome little desert runner
I like it.
I wouldn't pay anything over 30K for a mid size truck. For 40K, you can get a full size truck.
Well done guys, pretty solid truck.
👉🏽GM did the homework with the Canyon & Colorado platform.
You can get yourself a truck optioned for Serious Offroad "sle/zr2/z71" or a work horse "2.8l Baby Duramax".
👉🏽All done in a smaller truck package.
* Note: I would still cross shop a - Fullsize at this price point.
Nice, but crazy expensive for this small truck. The Colorado is slightly cheaper, but I still think with options this is a bit rich. The Tacoma is cheaper, but the Canyon is nicer and the Colorado is about the same. Or if you don't care about MPGs and want something bigger, there's always the F150.
Great little truck. I just wish GM didn't go with a 3.42 rear end. I think with a 3.55 or 3.73 rear end and another 25-50 HP, this truck would fair much better, and I don't think it would change the fuel economy too drastically.
Also as far as the scoring system is concerned, I know you lose points for failing to meet the standards. But do you gain points for exceeding the standard?
You can only gain points for exceeding the MPG standard.
I agree with you opinion on a lower gear option from GM would be great. It would be quicker off the line and would definitely get up and go quicker.
The problem with that is fuel mileage! All the manufacturers are in an MPG war so they lean toward gearing for the best possible fuel economy and leaving just enough room for the truck to still seem impressive when looking at their numbers. GM could care less about what us, the customers want, they have to accommodate the Govt. regulators and get best possible MPG's. Lower gears would throw the fuel mileage rule out the window.
PaLEOjd
Absolutely. Dodge did the same thing with the Ram EcoDiesel. They went too safe in terms of fuel economy and what they produced was an absolute slug of a truck that can't haul anymore than a mid-size and runs 0-60 in 11 seconds.
The reason I bought my EcoBoost was because it pulls harder than anything else in the class and it still gets 18-21 MPG for the driving I do. Mine also happens to be tuned and will run 0-60 in 6 seconds or less and easily tow over 10k.
+unitedgray :
Well, diesel is not really about acceleration and high speed. I want capability, control, and holding power at speed: I doubt very much I would go past 65mph when towing 6k# in such a small truck. This gmc is highly attractive, but over priced.
But you are correct imho; USA engineers do not choose the correct tranny nor diff to optimise a diesel drive train. The rear ratio should be as you say, and the tranny should be 8 gears. This would give a super low 1st gear for mud/snow, and a decent top gear for cruising: and the rpm band would likely be optimum at say 1000 rpm [eg 1500 to 2500] for all conditions. This would optimise mpg and could increase the capacities. The truck is pretty heavy already, and capable, so no need to increase frame etc for more weight: but a bump up in haul/tow to say 1500/8000# would be nice to have.
Rob Grune
The main issue holding them back is the use of 3.42 and 3.55 in the rear differential. I've even seen some GMC trucks with 3.23 and 3.08 gears which are absolutely gutless.
they need to put in a small v8 AND a v6 turbo Diesel in the GM Midsize trucks !!!
It will get better MPG towing over the v6 and i4 Turbo Diesel.