People tend to forget how awesome Tim Duncan was. He was never flashy, but he always got the job done. What I noticed watching them play against each other is that the majority of the time Duncan took Garnett right to the hole, while Garnett shot mostly jumpers against Duncan.
He and his teammates get the job done, not he alone, he not dominate like wilt or shaq, or even hakeem, i still prefer how garnett played. He just didn't have solid teammates until he arrived at boston
But it's also why the talk about Duncan being less agile or athletic was more on the BS side since Duncan absolutely had the agility to drive the rock on a supposedly quicker Garnett...
Great matchup. I remember KG discussing how he could not get into Duncan's head with trash talk. I feel Duncan is really a center, and KG is a oversized SF
While i am looking this video, i was about to post same comment. I did not realized till know how much they play differently and how much tim is stronger physically
I love how when Duncan posted up he had eyes in the back of his head. Always knew his angle to the basket and always had a sense for where every defender was around him
The two best PFs of all time, honestly (TD 1, KG 2) It *is* tempting to consider Giannis over Garnett, because Garnett's biggest claim to fame was being the most versatile player in the world in the early 2000s, and Giannis today is even more versatile. However, Giannis is not the dominant rim protector or post presence that Garnett was, so I still prefer Garnett.
Anyway Giannis is also a beast, have dominant rim attacking ability, can post 30+10+5 every night, and just like what you said, is very versatile. I thought many people will put Giannis at #2, but I have no opinion on your pick, bro. Garnett is just one of the best of all time.
@@DecemberSkyfire JUST LIKE DUNCAN NEVER CAN STAY INFRONT LUIS SCOLA. GARNETT BRING GOLD FROM OLYMPICS BECAUSE HE IS GREAT PLAYER. DUNCAN IS WAGON IN SUPERTEAM OF ADMIRAL.
This video collects the early years TD vs KG every 1-on-1 plays available in TH-cam. Those 1-on-1 plays did not only include basic matchup plays, But also some offensive rebounds grabbed during matchup, or some open shots due to missed rotation during their match up etc. But mostly are actually TD vs KG. It did not include TD vs KG plays after 2005. Credit to: LamarMatic All-Around NBA Jessie 89 spursfans746 Hope you all like that video, thanks a lot.
@@zhugelianges I noticed you haven't done a marbury video.Would you do it please bro? Great channel ideas and highlights I love Baron Davis but it is one of your latest videos could you do marbury ? Thanks bro
Obviously the public sentiment nowadays is that TD is the best PF of all time, so great that he's often considered around top 5 of all time (even though many still weirdly argue that he's the most underrated player ever😂), but videos like this is so valuable in that unlike stats, it gives us the the how and why these players are great. From eye test alone, they are on par with each other. TD had better fundamentals, KG was more skilful.
Yes, many argue he's the most underrated because he's often left out of top 5s, when he should be a no brainer in the top 5 and most likely top 3. Personally, I'd go Wilt, Duncan, Kareem.
@@chipshead3079 4 and 5, in either order. Big men are WAY more impactful than guards. LeBron was dominated by Duncan-led teams over his career. Jordan didn't win anything until the truly great teams with size in the 80's got old.
Loved both of them but KG my favourite, always loved the Black n Green T-Wolves jersey, and the Blue one too, but yeah Tim had the play style of a Centre, KG was like a big Small Forward, he was more Versatile as a PF
Thanks for your comment, mate. Do you mean 2K23 rating? I guess no real NBA fans would really care those rating. KG's footwork is phenomenal, probably because Kevin McHale coached him really well when the Big Ticket was young.
Timmy benefited from having hall of famers around him hes whole career, making the game so much easier for him; while Garnett was surrounded by scrubs. The couple of times he had decent squad he made WCF and won a championship. I remember when Gasol destroyed Duncan in 2008 wcf and then KG making Gasol looks like a joke in the Finals it should tell you something.
Obviously, Kevin Garnett is the better player vs Tim Duncan. But, if you ask people will say it's the other way around. KG has better offensive skills, faster, quicker, jumps higher, so, if you are going to coach KG or Tim it's going to be different results. If you will play them like in NBA 2k or nba live you will see the difference is attributes. For me, KG is the best PF of all time.
Agree with you, timmy's most all defensive selections is quite overrated. He didn't won defensive player of the year unlike KG, and timmy's performance in his last 3 championship is less than kobe's performance in his first 3 championship with shaq. Timmy played like a role player in his last 3 rings while kobe played at an allstar level all in his 5 championship runs. Also, garnett is a better shooter than timmy, KG had the range and skills. The big difference between the two PF's was that timmy always had a better supporting cast and a great coach
Cool video to my eye they are suprisingly on par considering how td is everyone's goat pf! Dam kg had mad skills. So did they ever go at it 1v1 in the gym?
“Summary of what the eyes see”: NEITHER could guard the other! Here’s the differences… KG skillfully beats Duncan generally in one move/play Duncan usually feasted on KG in the paint since he was Durant before Durant and light in the ass but it typically took Duncan more effort to score on KG 1 on 1. MIN would double Duncan often whereas Duncan generally guarded KG 1 on 1.
No1 and no2 pf’s to ever do it. Duncan was better because of post bag and leadership. Him and pop were like Brady and belicheck. Duncan is top 5 all time…
My only knock on KG was that he just wasn't selfish enough offensively. He had such an array of offensive moves he should have been more selfish. Especially playing in MN where they refused to put other HOFs around him. TD could afford to be unselfish in San Antonio because of the sheer greatness he was surrounded by. KG could not afford to do that. Thats also why KG was so successful in Boston when he went because he could afford to be unselfish. People forget those Boston years and how they went. That Boston team should have won 3 in a row. They were by far the best in the league pre KG knee injury in 2009. '08 far and away the best and KG was DPOY and should have won MVP. 2009 they were the leagues best team and then KG shatters his knee and is never again the same player. Lost all his athleticism and elite lateral movement. Yet in 2010 they still went to Game 7 in the NBA Finals against the Lakers when Kendrick Perkins tore his ACL in Game 6. If not for a Ron Artest miracle 3 the Celtics take it home. But thats the way life goes, I suppose.
Kg had the game and size and mind to be a top 10 all time player . If he had a teammate like truth and Allen - the way Duncan had teammates and Kobe did - and say he had five rings as they do. he d have surpassed both in terms of greatness . His game is just unselfish , complete , intense , an all time game they would be great in any era. U talk about unicorns and aliens/ kg was and will always be the original prototype freak, alien , unicorn . When he came there was no one like him before. I’d say a guy like Robinson or Coleman moved like a guard but they really didn’t. He did . Now the league is full of players who have been made from his mould that he cast. He was the original big guy who could move like a guard. Really. and all other s are based off his original design .
Ridiculous comment. Versatility doesn’t trump dominance. Marc Gasol was more versatile than Shaq, did that make him better? You know how many 30+ point playoff games KG had? 7 😂 Duncan had 40. KGs offensive game didn’t translate in the playoffs. Relying on the 18 footer led to tougher shots, more one shot possessions and no double teams, all things that Duncan didn’t allow by simply planting his ass down low. Hence why he won titles almost doubling the PPG of his next best scorer whilst KG never won a playoff series unless he had 2 near 20 PPG scorers Try again
@@hardwoodthought1213 Kg never won cause he was with the timberwolves bro come on the timberwolves ruin damn near every star they get same thing happened with rudy gobert
All your arguments is a guesswork. Popovich gained the most of his popularity after creating a dynasty, of which Tim was a key part. No one can say exactly if he could do the same with the KG, doubtly, coz we all know that he was too impulsive and aggressive to be a good leader. What prevented the wolves from building a dynasty around Garnett? They had a good enough coaches with all the potential and among his teammates were quite good role players, like Sam or Latrell.
My Grandmother's House by Kamala Das There is a house now far away where once I received love……. That woman died, The house withdrew into silence, snakes moved Among books, I was then too young To read, and my blood turned cold like the moon How often I think of going There, to peer through blind eyes of windows or Just listen to the frozen air, Or in wild despair, pick an armful of Darkness to bring it here to lie Behind my bedroom door like a brooding Dog…you cannot believe, darling, Can you, that I lived in such a house and Was proud, and loved…. I who have lost My way and beg now at strangers' doors to Receive love, at least in small change?
Timmy is more planted like a true center, KG is more versatile but that versatility worsened as his career went on his shot in late career looks horrendous 😅
of course they do... are u kidding? by a lot. tim would wreck every big man in the league right now. hes best PF ever. KG isnt far behind. u kids with ur modern nba 🤣
Who's the best/greatest NBA PF? Garnett had to move to another team to get his ONE pitiful ring; Duncan never had to leave the Spurs to gain FIVE well-deserved rings. Duncan is the PF GOAT! Nuff said.Who's the best/greatest? Garnett had to move to another team to get his ONE pitiful ring; Duncan never had to leave the Spurs to gain FIVE well-deserved rings. Duncan is the PF GOAT! Nuff said.
JUST LIKE DUNCAN NEVER CAN STAY INFRONT LUIS SCOLA. GARNETT BRING GOLD FROM OLYMPICS BECAUSE HE IS GREAT PLAYER. DUNCAN IS WAGON IN SUPERTEAM OF ADMIRAL.
People tend to forget how awesome Tim Duncan was. He was never flashy, but he always got the job done. What I noticed watching them play against each other is that the majority of the time Duncan took Garnett right to the hole, while Garnett shot mostly jumpers against Duncan.
He and his teammates get the job done, not he alone, he not dominate like wilt or shaq, or even hakeem, i still prefer how garnett played. He just didn't have solid teammates until he arrived at boston
@@aeriskabkr1110KG come playoff time didn’t impact close to as much as Duncan, and that was largely because of his playstyle
U guys are blind.
But it's also why the talk about Duncan being less agile or athletic was more on the BS side since Duncan absolutely had the agility to drive the rock on a supposedly quicker Garnett...
He was a machine. And never shied in the big moments.
Great matchup. I remember KG discussing how he could not get into Duncan's head with trash talk. I feel Duncan is really a center, and KG is a oversized SF
Thanks!
KG was over size SF. He wasn't able to stay in front of certain guy especially great ones high level one like Pip . Who have him KG work
While i am looking this video, i was about to post same comment. I did not realized till know how much they play differently and how much tim is stronger physically
That’s pretty much what a pf is lol
Well said
I love how when Duncan posted up he had eyes in the back of his head. Always knew his angle to the basket and always had a sense for where every defender was around him
Yall say you love it now but Spurs finals did not get good ratings.
This is An amazing compilation of work/ show this guy appreciation for putting this together for our enjoyment
GOATED channel( Timmy was quick asab before the 2000 injury )
Thanks again for the high compliment, bro!
thank you very much for putting this together
No problem, thanks for your appreciation too, man
Two legendary players.
Thanks, appreciate the comment and love them both, man
@@zhugelianges you're welcome absolutely my pleasure 🤗🤗🤗
The two best PFs of all time, honestly (TD 1, KG 2)
It *is* tempting to consider Giannis over Garnett, because Garnett's biggest claim to fame was being the most versatile player in the world in the early 2000s, and Giannis today is even more versatile. However, Giannis is not the dominant rim protector or post presence that Garnett was, so I still prefer Garnett.
Anyway Giannis is also a beast, have dominant rim attacking ability, can post 30+10+5 every night, and just like what you said, is very versatile. I thought many people will put Giannis at #2, but I have no opinion on your pick, bro. Garnett is just one of the best of all time.
Garnett was never a dominant post player, which is part of the reason for his playoff failures. Soft. Talks a lot. Soft.
以上的言論誰強不強 等他退役進名人堂再說吧 現在討論何意義？才打幾年？不要鬧了你們
假奶😂幾個年度防守第一隊？
跟他比防守 別鬧了 他是全能的
說他軟 那貴先生呢 能打橋下的籃球比賽就能吹很久啦😂
@@DecemberSkyfire JUST LIKE DUNCAN NEVER CAN STAY INFRONT LUIS SCOLA. GARNETT BRING GOLD FROM OLYMPICS BECAUSE HE IS GREAT PLAYER. DUNCAN IS WAGON IN SUPERTEAM OF ADMIRAL.
@@DecemberSkyfire THATS WHY GARNETT WON OLYMPIC GOLD AND DUNCAN LOST MOST GAMES IN USA HISTORY. U DERANGED
This video collects the early years TD vs KG every 1-on-1 plays available in TH-cam.
Those 1-on-1 plays did not only include basic matchup plays,
But also some offensive rebounds grabbed during matchup, or some open shots due to missed rotation during their match up etc.
But mostly are actually TD vs KG.
It did not include TD vs KG plays after 2005.
Credit to:
LamarMatic
All-Around NBA
Jessie 89
spursfans746
Hope you all like that video, thanks a lot.
Godly work done here. I'm so happy your posting!!!
@@jeebs9 Thanks bro! Appreciate it!
@@zhugelianges I noticed you haven't done a marbury video.Would you do it please bro? Great channel ideas and highlights I love Baron Davis but it is one of your latest videos could you do marbury ? Thanks bro
@@QankoIvanov Ya sure why not, bro I will do it for you next week, thanks for your support!
@@QankoIvanov Done, plz check
th-cam.com/video/TS1rI6g2YCI/w-d-xo.html
Thanks
Once again, you are the MF'n man! Great upload of two of the greatest PF's of all time
Glad that you love it, man, appreciate!
Gotta love the VHS tracking !
Obviously the public sentiment nowadays is that TD is the best PF of all time, so great that he's often considered around top 5 of all time (even though many still weirdly argue that he's the most underrated player ever😂), but videos like this is so valuable in that unlike stats, it gives us the the how and why these players are great.
From eye test alone, they are on par with each other. TD had better fundamentals, KG was more skilful.
Yes, many argue he's the most underrated because he's often left out of top 5s, when he should be a no brainer in the top 5 and most likely top 3. Personally, I'd go Wilt, Duncan, Kareem.
wilt duncan kareem top3? wheres bron n mj@@DecemberSkyfire
@@chipshead3079 4 and 5, in either order. Big men are WAY more impactful than guards. LeBron was dominated by Duncan-led teams over his career. Jordan didn't win anything until the truly great teams with size in the 80's got old.
@@DecemberSkyfire duncan never led team parker and ginobili were leaders. shall i call luis scola to xplain something ??
ROFL Duncan was the unquestioned leader on every championship team he ever played on. Absolutely zero debate.@@PIP...33
Totally right
Timmy the greatest PF
BUT
KG is my favorite
Loved both of them but KG my favourite, always loved the Black n Green T-Wolves jersey, and the Blue one too, but yeah Tim had the play style of a Centre, KG was like a big Small Forward, he was more Versatile as a PF
4:22 🤯🤯🤯
Even though KG's ratings have dropped a lot, he's the best defender ever. His lateral footwork and experience is amazing.
Thanks for your comment, mate.
Do you mean 2K23 rating? I guess no real NBA fans would really care those rating.
KG's footwork is phenomenal, probably because Kevin McHale coached him really well when the Big Ticket was young.
@joceja23 BEST FOOTWORK : RODMAN, HAKEEM, GARNETT AND PIPPEN PRE spinal injuries.
Timmy benefited from having hall of famers around him hes whole career, making the game so much easier for him; while Garnett was surrounded by scrubs. The couple of times he had decent squad he made WCF and won a championship.
I remember when Gasol destroyed Duncan in 2008 wcf and then KG making Gasol looks like a joke in the Finals it should tell you something.
thank you!
Obviously, Kevin Garnett is the better player vs Tim Duncan. But, if you ask people will say it's the other way around. KG has better offensive skills, faster, quicker, jumps higher, so, if you are going to coach KG or Tim it's going to be different results. If you will play them like in NBA 2k or nba live you will see the difference is attributes. For me, KG is the best PF of all time.
Agree with you, timmy's most all defensive selections is quite overrated. He didn't won defensive player of the year unlike KG, and timmy's performance in his last 3 championship is less than kobe's performance in his first 3 championship with shaq. Timmy played like a role player in his last 3 rings while kobe played at an allstar level all in his 5 championship runs. Also, garnett is a better shooter than timmy, KG had the range and skills. The big difference between the two PF's was that timmy always had a better supporting cast and a great coach
Cool video to my eye they are suprisingly on par considering how td is everyone's goat pf! Dam kg had mad skills. So did they ever go at it 1v1 in the gym?
4:20
“Summary of what the eyes see”:
NEITHER could guard the other!
Here’s the differences…
KG skillfully beats Duncan generally in one move/play
Duncan usually feasted on KG in the paint since he was Durant before Durant and light in the ass but it typically took Duncan more effort to score on KG 1 on 1.
MIN would double Duncan often whereas Duncan generally guarded KG 1 on 1.
No1 and no2 pf’s to ever do it. Duncan was better because of post bag and leadership. Him and pop were like Brady and belicheck. Duncan is top 5 all time…
I’ll take KG
Young Timmy was unstoppable.
My only knock on KG was that he just wasn't selfish enough offensively. He had such an array of offensive moves he should have been more selfish. Especially playing in MN where they refused to put other HOFs around him. TD could afford to be unselfish in San Antonio because of the sheer greatness he was surrounded by. KG could not afford to do that. Thats also why KG was so successful in Boston when he went because he could afford to be unselfish. People forget those Boston years and how they went. That Boston team should have won 3 in a row. They were by far the best in the league pre KG knee injury in 2009. '08 far and away the best and KG was DPOY and should have won MVP. 2009 they were the leagues best team and then KG shatters his knee and is never again the same player. Lost all his athleticism and elite lateral movement. Yet in 2010 they still went to Game 7 in the NBA Finals against the Lakers when Kendrick Perkins tore his ACL in Game 6. If not for a Ron Artest miracle 3 the Celtics take it home. But thats the way life goes, I suppose.
People who look down on other people don't end up being looked up to
Kg had the game and size and mind to be a top 10 all time player . If he had a teammate like truth and Allen - the way Duncan had teammates and Kobe did - and say he had five rings as they do. he d have surpassed both in terms of greatness . His game is just unselfish , complete , intense , an all time game they would be great in any era. U talk about unicorns and aliens/ kg was and will always be the original prototype freak, alien , unicorn . When he came there was no one like him before. I’d say a guy like Robinson or Coleman moved like a guard but they really didn’t. He did .
Now the league is full of players who have been made from his mould that he cast.
He was the original big guy who could move like a guard. Really. and all other s are based off his original design .
hey old pal. you are still making these
hey bro, long time no see.
Glad to see you again, bro!
You got Michael REDD ?
Duncan may have the strength but KG is waaaay better as a scorer because he's more versatile... KG all day
Thanks for your comment!
Ridiculous comment. Versatility doesn’t trump dominance. Marc Gasol was more versatile than Shaq, did that make him better?
You know how many 30+ point playoff games KG had? 7 😂 Duncan had 40. KGs offensive game didn’t translate in the playoffs. Relying on the 18 footer led to tougher shots, more one shot possessions and no double teams, all things that Duncan didn’t allow by simply planting his ass down low. Hence why he won titles almost doubling the PPG of his next best scorer whilst KG never won a playoff series unless he had 2 near 20 PPG scorers
Try again
@@hardwoodthought1213 Kg never won cause he was with the timberwolves bro come on the timberwolves ruin damn near every star they get same thing happened with rudy gobert
@@jokb1613 😂😂😂😂
@@hardwoodthought1213 Duncan is a better scorer but your argument is so disingenuous LOL
KG > Duncan anyday. KG just didn't have the luck to be coached by Gregg Popovich and wasted his majority of career in a shit Minnesota team
All your arguments is a guesswork.
Popovich gained the most of his popularity after creating a dynasty, of which Tim was a key part. No one can say exactly if he could do the same with the KG, doubtly, coz we all know that he was too impulsive and aggressive to be a good leader.
What prevented the wolves from building a dynasty around Garnett? They had a good enough coaches with all the potential and among his teammates were quite good role players, like Sam or Latrell.
KG don't miss shot?😂They keep upload TD miss and don't collect KG miss shot part😂😂😂
My Grandmother's House
by Kamala Das
There is a house now far away where once
I received love……. That woman died,
The house withdrew into silence, snakes moved
Among books, I was then too young
To read, and my blood turned cold like the moon
How often I think of going
There, to peer through blind eyes of windows or
Just listen to the frozen air,
Or in wild despair, pick an armful of
Darkness to bring it here to lie
Behind my bedroom door like a brooding
Dog…you cannot believe, darling,
Can you, that I lived in such a house and
Was proud, and loved…. I who have lost
My way and beg now at strangers' doors to
Receive love, at least in small change?
Timmy is more planted like a true center, KG is more versatile but that versatility worsened as his career went on his shot in late career looks horrendous 😅
Garnett the better player
am i right if i say kg and tim duncan gave better post moves than embiid and gobert!!! how is that possible?
of course they do... are u kidding? by a lot. tim would wreck every big man in the league right now. hes best PF ever. KG isnt far behind. u kids with ur modern nba 🤣
Kevin Garnett > Tim Duncan
牛逼😂
謝謝兄弟!
Who's the best/greatest NBA PF?
Garnett had to move to another team to get his ONE pitiful ring;
Duncan never had to leave the Spurs to gain FIVE well-deserved rings.
Duncan is the PF GOAT! Nuff said.Who's the best/greatest?
Garnett had to move to another team to get his ONE pitiful ring;
Duncan never had to leave the Spurs to gain FIVE well-deserved rings.
Duncan is the PF GOAT! Nuff said.
JUST LIKE DUNCAN NEVER CAN STAY INFRONT LUIS SCOLA. GARNETT BRING GOLD FROM OLYMPICS BECAUSE HE IS GREAT PLAYER. DUNCAN IS WAGON IN SUPERTEAM OF ADMIRAL.
popovich need to sit admiral so duncan can have superteam ferom day 1 u deranged
whats the matter deranged u cant show me gold ??DUNBCAN HAS SUPERTEAM FROM DAY 1 WHILE KG HAD TROY HUDSON U DERANGED
NUFF SAID THAT U R DERANGED !! LUIS SCOLA > DUNCAN !!! DENY MY FACTS U DERANGED
Duncan doesn't had to leave spurs because he already had a good teammates
Barkley was better than both!
With zero rings
@@king2025-i that's a team achievement! Neither of them can hold Barkley's jock strap..
You sure ?
Terrible video quality
SO GO POST YOURSELF BETTER Q THEN
@@PIP...33 I don’t have the resources nor interest to do so. Merely stating my observations, take care
@@jksezhey1 U DERANGED
@@PIP...33 ok narco lol
@@PIP...33the whole video doesn’t lag, only segments most likely because of copyright issues, KG the Goat 🐐
Kg was a dog 🐕
Tim > KG from start to finish. But KG is probably more popular among fans because of his pompouse and loud-mouthed behavior, which some call charisma.