"Tim Duncan Was Harder To Guard Than Kevin Garnett" Kenyon Martin Breaks Down NBA Hall of Fame Class
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- Kenyon Martin battled two of the greatest power forwards in the NBA, and now hall of famers, Kevin Garnett and Tim Duncan. However, Kenyon Martin says he could manage KG, but Tim Duncan was his biggest challenge. Watch “No Chill with Gilbert Arenas” every Monday night at 8pm ET / PT on fuboTV or stream it FREE at fubosportsnetwork.com
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Why Gilbert look like the powerfoward now 😂
He does Mike Bibby workouts
Man....living good eating good 😂😂
I been thinking that same thing. Maybe it’s the camera angle but he looks way bigger than 6’3 on here all the time lol
I knew something looked wrong 😂😂😂
@@pandabear1576 them lil ass chairs 😆😆😆😆
Duncan had Martin in foul trouble every game in that finals. Could not stop him and he was a good defender
He faced PRIMETIME Tim Duncan. Not just prime tim Duncan. But Tim Duncan at his physical and technical peak.
Rasheed can guard Duncan no problem lol
@@Pimping9167 cap
@@Pimping9167 super cap
@J F Duncan couldn't score on sheed in that series to be honest
K-Mart still playing hardnosed defense... every sentence he speaks, he cuts himself off.
Lmmfao bra chill 😂😂😂😂
naturally he has a stutter. so it takes an extreme amount of brain power to overcome it, hence the "cutoffs".
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Boi you wild!!
STOP 🛑 ✋ 😂
This comment is🔥🔥💯💪😁
Tim was too big for that guy. KG was tall but he didn’t have quite the base that Tim had. Tim basically was a damn center.
He just Fundamentally sound
That's what also makes Shaq's comments on Tim Duncan not being a real big man even more dumb.
Tim ruin the NBA. He made big men hide and be PF.
Made the NBA weak.
Went from Barkley to bosh and Dirk
@@stephaniewin9072 i dont know those players u called weak are all champions and barkley who you call a real big even tho he is 6'5, is not.
@@lebronsburner5496 championships are a TEAM accomplishment.
Kevin Garnett averaged 20.4 points, 12.2 rebounds and 4.4 assists in 22 games versus Kenyon Martin in his career
Kenyon Martin was never appreciated as he should for his defense and effort that man was tough!
And he had BUNNIES
@@lionelsheja6381 bruh 😂😂😂
@@dellis4320 That's not what I meant 😂😂😂. I meant he could pull off a highlight reel dunk.
@@lionelsheja6381 oh he had hops 😂😂😂😂
How the hell you knew what I meant??? 🤔
@@dellis4320 your reaction?? 👀👀🙄😅
Kenyon was a damn good player , the type of dude you wanted in the trenches with you
No question
Not to mention, Kenyon used to have a major stuttering problem. To hear him speak now shows how hard this dude works at everything he does.
Facts
If he didn’t have Jason Kidd he would’ve been the first number 1 pick to work in McDonald’s 3 years later
3-23 in the finals nah
Man it is cool to hear big time players talk about their matchups vs legends. Martin was a damn good player in his prime.
Best in his crappy draft class for sure
@@jaron312 that might be the worst all time
Lol he was okay at best
I wouldn’t call Kmart a big time player. He was an above average player. He never averaged over 16 ppg only had a double digit rebound season once. In today’s league he’d be a poor man’s Al Horford, and I wouldn’t Al a big time player either
@@therealjayz8036 fair enough
This dude looks the exact same as he did when I last seen him play lol
Iui
Beige don’t Age
Black don’t crack my guy facts!!!
Really looks like he can still go!!
Dark skin always win.
Jason Kidd wasn’t the only reason the nets went back to back finals ..... Martin was that guy
Yep and Kmart Jefferson and kittles
Just played in a era where PF where Goated
Facts
If only Vince Carter joined them earlier.
Those Kidd to Martin highlights were a sight to see.
Kenyon also knew u could out muscle kg and force him into settling for long jumpers. TD was about 30-40 pounds heavier than kg and could not only take the physicality and had more in his bag than kg. Kenyon was one if the very rare players that could literally guard 1-5 at a high level. 1 of the most versatile defenders ever
40 pounds heavier than Garnett? 🤣
Kenyon could guard 5-3 guards would make him look silly
@@Trillbandok at least 30 lbs if not 40 lbs, when Tim first came in league, they said he was a solid 260. KG, came in at 217, but that was out of high school as we know. They listed him at 240 later on though, but like him being taller than 6-11, he was probably less than 240.
Out muscling kg would backfire. First, he's athletic so he could counter it easily like Hakeem did with Shaq. Second, Garnett was strong. There's a reason he played pf and Center when he came of age. I doubt Kenyon Mart is beating KG in an arm wrestling match.
Funny they average the same point against Kmart thi
Much respect! Love the break down of Martin praising Duncan’s game. Real recognize real.
As a Spurs fan, I know how good Kenyon was. He BATTLED.
Hell yea k-mart was str8
as a spurs I knew its bbq chicken when kmart was the opponent
He just seemed a little slight against many ,as a opposing team ,it was apparent against Detroit.many times him & even Reggie Miller always seem to have daylight but someone on Detroit would deny the shot....emphatically.
@King King Mutumbo and Collins
Early in his career Kenyon Martin use to have a really bad stuttering problem. I don’t know what therapy or medication he took but the improvement is amazing. Another example of what money can do
I had it too. Therapy and improving helped me out. Gotta get back to it tho
Doesn't take much money to search studdering tutorials on youtube
@@BrokeMalone that probably wasn't a thing back in the day
Money doesn’t help more like acknowledgment that you have the problem and getting therapy helps
Yea he’s come along way man for him to be in the media now that is definitely applaudable
According to Timmy Kenyon Martin is the best defender he played against
Rasheed Wallace could defend Tim
Kenyon was okay no rings no hall of fame
@@jmoney9914 rings are overated
@@HipHop-wj8yo not really ask Lucky shot Bob.
@@B.Piercesports yup i have seen it
Duncan jumps once, twice, three times, four times defending the basket.
While other defenders his height can only jump once or twice.
Duncan was extremely fit and athletic in his defense. He can move in many directions so quickly.
He was a good passer too.
Are you seriously trying to say Duncan was athletic? He was a decent player, definitely not athletic relative to NBA players.
@@fanboy98 you must not have followed Duncan’s career since the beginning. Duncan was incredibly athletic. Obviously later his career that went away but up until like 2007, he could move. Nobody is saying he’s Westbrook so chill.
@@fanboy98 2 time MVP in the regular season so yes he was athletic. Not to mention being drafted into the NBA in the first round.
@@THE_BEAR_JEW I watched him in college and as a rookie until his retirement. He sure didn’t look that athletic to me. Obviously relative to NBA players. An athletic big would be someone like his teammate, David Robinson.
I wouldn't necessary contribute the defense and jumping to his athleticism, he was called the big fundamental for a reason. Dude's footwork was immaculate. Bill Russel called him the best defender he'd ever seen!
Tim Duncan hands down the most underrated athlete not just basketball player but athlete to ever exist.
He's not underrated.. plus not a good athlete..unathletic as hell..
Tim is only underrated as a ball player by non NBA fans. Any fan that actually followed the league back then knows that Tim was a silent assassin. He didn't talk trash. He wasn't a loud guy. He just got shit done on both sides of the court and won championships.
@@airkuna I take it you're a Clippers fan in the early 2000 😂 So many athletic beasts in the NBA who never had the brains, the IQ, the production and the accolade of Tim Duncan. Sports is about efficiency and output, athleticism can win you a slam dunk contest but it won't get you 5 championships and multiple MVPs.
He was hell at Cincinnati. He balled out in the nba. K.Martin was freakishly long. Great defender
Kenyon didn’t get hurt in 2000 they were winning the NCAA with cincy. But my Spartans took it home.... I didn’t forget Kenyon.
Yeah you’re right, I remember that ugly break.
You own the Spartans talking about my
I remember that. They were the undisputed best team in college that year before he got hurt.
so sad mateen couldn't make it at the NBA level. He was a monster at STATE.
agreed. mateen was an all-time great leader in college. tbh, he was the reason MSU basketball became what it is today.
Your son is a high potential player, great father to have. Respect🤘🏻🙏
Gil gotta bring Kwame onto the podcast now 😂
There is no way Gill will do that. Gilbert is a lover not a fighter.
@Raf why lol
@@damarimoland1613 just type in “Kwame Brown” on google and TH-cam and you’ll see why Lmaoo
@@howardbrammer4871 Gilbert has actually been trying to talk to him but Kwame ain’t having it 😂😂
I agree 😂😂😂
K-Mart is one of the most underrated defenders in history.
So why did he decline to guard Shaq in the 2002 Finals?
@@mytowntrill5441 Cause Shaq is Gigantic and K-Mart didn't play his position.
@@mytowntrill5441 How would he possibly defend Shaq?
Ain't that the truth
@KINGBLVD "neither did rodman" What? That's not a sentence.
This man know Kg gave him work!
This is 1 of the best basketball podcast the internet has to offer rite now its really for the fans
Not according to Kwame Brown lol
@@JCMthebrand I challenge you, to name one person who cares what Kwame Brown thinks
@@dayonjohnson1882 His mom. What I win?
@@adgee5401 A dinner with Kwame Brown. Congratulations! 🎉
@@JCMthebrand Becky with the good hair!
J Kidd and K Mart were my favorite lob city
Vincanity was wild with that Nets team too. Even RJ was catching a few bodies with them. That was such an underrated team. The Pistons had their number though.
I started watching the NBA around the end of that era. Kidd to K-Mart was gold.
@@m_js5709 the Nets beat the Pistons in 02 & 03 the Pistons got Rasheed in 2004 that was the difference than people like Kenyon and others had contracts coming up so moves and trades had to be made
@@slickeddy2000 You right Nets beat Pistons bad especially in 03. Pistons needed Sheed to hit that next stride though and that put them over the top.. At least until Bron started knocking Detroit out the playoffs lol
2003 nets best NBA video game team EVER.
He *should* say Duncan after getting a quad-double dropped on his head in the '03 Finals.
For all the talk about game 6, peep his game 1. 32 pts, 20 rebs, 7 blks, 6 asts, 3 stls.
LOL Kenyon was a pretty decent player but both KG and Duncan busted his ass regularly. He is talking as if he was neck and neck with them during the era. Stop
Where did you get your numbers from
@@NoSpinster0909 kg busy his ass on the regular, just look it up
@@fkdonaldtrump7194 I tried to I couldn’t find any information that’s why I asked,where did you find the numbers at
You must have not actually watched that era. Talking out of your ass
KG says himself Kenyon could stop him. Clearly KG thought he was neck and neck if he singled him out as one of the best defenders
Why did he fire Rory from the JBP
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joe budden would throw away all them amiri hats if he had that hairline
😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@Ebdawinner that’s too right
Adored Kenyon insight. Really respected his opinion cause he has battled both players. And at one point he was one best defensive players in the league.
The way he described that match up is what makes the game special and also what's missing in todays brand of basketball. Being a great athlete is different than being a great basketball player and Tim was a great player. When the game is played at that level it's fun to play like Kenyon said but it's fun to watch.
watch jokic
What with the Mic/Audio ?
Loved that nuggets squad with him Melo Iverson jr smith NENE....
If their big men could have been healthy for the playoffs it's no telling how far they would have went
Marcus Camby
Rasheed gave them both PROBLEMS.....FACTS.
Rasheed who was outscored, outrebounded, outassisted, outblocked by TD somehow gave him problems?
@psa2016 😂😂 facts and Duncan has a way better record against Wallace and garnett
"Tim Duncan Was Harder To Guard Than Kevin Garnett"......well...Nobody doubted that !
I mean duncan has more weight and power
In their prime
Duncan 260lb
Kg 240lb
K Mart was one of my favorite players back then. Along with AI, KG. Back when it was still a physical, intense, trash talking, fighting (sometimes) era. ‘Hip Hop Runs The World!’ 🔥💪🏾
Kenyon Martin is the Joe Budden of the NBA
This killed me 🤣🤣
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Facts 🎯🎯🎯
dont know if its a compliment or an insult😂
Lmao look like it 😂😂
As a Jersey native I have to salute Jason Kidd and Kenyon Martin for reaching those 2 finals with The Nets. I'm actually still pissed off at Byron Scott. The first finals against the Lakers the Nets had no chance, especially with Jason Collins guarding Shaq in the post. But the Nets could've beat the Spurs. The Nets had Dikembe Mutombo on the team, but Byron Scott had a personal issue with him and hardly played him.
So instead of putting 7'1 Mutombo who was a known shot blocker and very clumsy on Tim Duncan and keeping him on Duncan until Mutombo fouled out, Byron Scott had Kenyon and 6'9 Aaron Williams guarding Duncan. Duncan was abusing Aaron Williams in the post and Scott still refused to put Mutombo on him. That was one of the most boneheaded coaching decisions that I've ever seen. It also didn't help that Richard Jefferson was ice cold on many important possessions. Salute to Jason Kidd though. That Nets fast break from those 2 finals years was must see tv.
Wow they had Mutombo during thst finals? I don't remember him ever being on that Kidd nets team. He wouldve been perfect to put on Tim. Averys a buffoon for that one.
Byron scott is a laker. New jersey should have declared him as a traitor
kevin garnett averaged 20 pts, 12 reb and 4 assists against kenyon Martin all career long while Martin had 15 pts, 6,7 reb and 1,2 assist :)
K MART was the most dunk focused guy Ever man he wanted to dunk all day everyday
He was the number 1 pick for a reason.
@@Obstakill he was a viscous dunker man and his energy level was crazy
Dominique Wilkins had entered the chat
Naw...Shaq...lol....
Vince has entered the chat
and that’s why KMART WAS NOT PART OF THE HOF CLASS🤣🤣🤣🤣
I think KG's on-the-court trash talk got in the heads of these True Tough guys like Kmart and UD... Several yars after he retired, they're still salty about the on court collisions. Guys like Dirk and Duncan faced it too but they knew it was just in-game competitiveness. The tough guys who were ready to fight and risk 73 game suspensions are now exposing how emotionally soft they are to podcasts and reporters
I'm going to take it one step further with the praise of Duncan. To me Kobe was NOT the best player of the last generation, it was Tim Duncan. It's just Kobe is more marketable than Duncan is🤷🏾♂️
And Shaq was more dominant than both of them.
What? 2008 Western Conference Finals is enough to say Kobe is the best of 2000s era
@@minato808 Shaq in his prime is the most dominant player of all time. Even b4 he died Kobe said if Shaq had his mentality that Shaq would have been the greatest player to ever play basketball
Never seen KG try that bully stuff with KMart lol he knew how to pick his battles
Still dropped 30-10 on him he was ass Kmart was average
He did. It worked too. Kg is in K marts head to this day. He's s always throwing shots at Kg. Kg always dogged him too and K mart was actually a great defender.
Y is ppl asking k mart there was better PF than him
KG was fake tough it’s video of him running backwards from McDyess 😂😂😂
Cause KG bullied Kmart by dropping a 25 and 10 on his ass every game they met. 🤣🤣
Kenyon tried to guard kobe in 2009 wcf he got blazed bad
I mean Kobe Cooked everybody tho that’s not fair
Real talk: KG (while a historically great defender) was more of a high-end role player on offense. This became clear in 2008, when Pierce was Boston's alpha dog during their title run.
For sure he was getting asked to score too much on ball in minni. Once he got to Boston and he could go all out on defence he was ridiculous
Man won MVP 03 season prime kg. Higher end role player boy stop, would Timmy have those rings if he wasn't with spurs his whole career,same Coach and system?
@@raystaples9107 KG won MVP in '04, not '03. And even then, he was deferring to Cassell and Sprewell in crunch time during the playoffs. He was a great 2-way player, but not at the level of a Duncan or Pierce as a go-to scorer.
@@ej11481 you are on crack .. go look at their careers if kg was drafted by the spurs he would be the best of all time im sorry … kg came from highschool and lead a team … Tim Duncan had pop his whole career as well as the admiral and hella of other hofs/ great role players to assist
@@michaelbishop2561 People like you are what suck about talking sports on social media. Fanboys who are bent on gassing up their favorite teams/players and get angry when anyone does anything besides give them unqualified praise.
KG, like Pippen, is probably a top-25 all-time player thanks to his elite defense and versatility. But like Pippen, he wasn't an elite scorer and needed the help of one to win a title.
Also, while Duncan got a lot of help during some of his championship runs, he flat-out carried the '03 Spurs to a title. The Admiral was well past his prime at that point, and TP and Manu hadn't yet reached their primes.
Let’s not forget that in the infamous Quad double game, Duncan also held Kenyon Martin to one of the worst finals games ever, made him shoot 3-23
Kenyon was just a dunker & rebounder he couldn’t shoot
@@clarkjonathan702 It doesn’t matter what type of player he was he shot 13% in that game. Duncan is one of the 3 greatest defenders ever whilst also carrying the weakest offensive roster ever to a title in 03
BBQ Chicken!
@@hardwoodthought1213 Timmy was a great defender but top 3 stop it 😂😂
@@dcraneis2bad Most All-Defensive selections ever, 1 first team away from most first teams ever, led the league in defensive win shares 9 times, no other player led the league more than twice, was top 3 in defensive rating 14 times, had perfect positioning on Defense, was the best rin protector in the NBA for 15 years. Was the best defensive player on 5 title teams.
How is it not possible he is top 3?
Kenyon was a Dawg he was a light skin KG but Timmy D owned them both with no style but plenty of grace lol
KG is a puppy according to K-Mart
@@pwimetime6687 kmart is a nobody compared to KG
@@arizonaFIREent kg is mighty overrated.
Garnett used to shit all over Kenyon Lmao bro wtf is this clown talking about? Like how he said he kept KG below his scoring average? Kg actually averaged more against him lmao.
Right.,. This man is crazy
He never said anything about keeping KG under his scroring average you capping 🧢 he said they both were legends but tim was personally hard for him to guard
@@lavelle3000 Was in the podcast were he said the puppy comment...KG averaged more points vs Martin and also averaged more points than Duncan had vs him...Think Kenyon be clout chasing to some degree...Prime KG was harder to guard than Duncan...Ask Karl Malone LoL
Duncan vs KG like Pac and Big it's only an comparsion in people heads. KG stats don't add up Duncan on no levels
Love Kmart but man had a personal issue with KG biased a bit.. I think that KG was better than Duncan but many would argue against and it would be a valid argument. not to mention Duncan was more of a five than a four. KG played the SF when he entered the league.
Preach
Kenyon looks like a taller version of Joe Budden
Gotta respect Kenyon for those comments 💯
Duncan is the best PF ever. Malone was close but I’ll take Tim and his resume all day.
Malone wasn't close. KG and Dirk both are better. So were Barkley and McHale
Kenyon staying in great shape wow good for him
Tim don't get enough Love, ppl quick to call him greatest PF. Yet in my opinion he's one of the best players all around PERIOD
Man I miss that era of basketball
Yeah, that era and the era before that one. This current era leaves much to be desired, and I do mean MUCH, at least in MY opinion. No one plays position. Everybody wants to be a ball-handler and/or a three-point shooter. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE to see a person who can do more than one thing on the court. It makes him a beast. But positions were created for a reason, and the game looks so beautiful when the positions work together PLEASE, let's get back to positional basketball?!!!
Anyone who thought kg and Duncan are on the same level of ‘greatness’ don’t know nothing about basketball… never watched the game… never even read the stat sheet. 🙄🙄
Fix the audio before releasing the full version Gil sound like he on the loud speaker 🔊
He sounds like he in a cave in another room
Asking former players which player was tougher to guard is like asking them which player they respect more. It's not always the truth that come out of their mouths.
KG torched this man
Timmy is a bad guy. Casual fan always bring up system brought championship to Timmy. It was the other way around. Pop made a system around Timmy's post up and passing. Plus his defense was anchored by him and Bowen with washed up Admiral. Timmy never backed down from any series. It was always him on offense and defense. KG was a talent but sometimes, fades out when needed the most.
Gilbert be looking 6’9 on the podcast
This is no surprise, Duncan's way better. 😂
Was thinking same thing. Who recommend this.
Loved Kenyon Martin. One of the only guys I saw watching the playoffs that would pump up the crowd and then walk by and high five all the nobody’s in the front row. Love this guy in Denver.
K-Mart & Sheed were 2 of the best defensive big men of that era, who didn't get recognized for their defense, bcuz it didn't show up on the stat sheet.
Get Kwame on the pod. Tell em’ to stop being sensitive 😂
That man been through hell that ain’t being sensitive that’s standing up for himself!
And good hair Becky
imagine only remembered as a bonafide scrub...
@@mookshowdagoat1664 Facts... He roasted all they tap dancing ass into civil conversations lol... Podcast should be called *Ducking Smoke* 😂
Tim Duncan was just better than KG plain and simple
Tim is the best PF ever and honestly KG aint even top 5 imo
Funny that he couldn’t guard either one. But talks like he can.
K mart was decent but he wasn’t like that kg & Duncan have him buckets why he never made an all defensive team I’ll wait
KG is just a rah rah guy, but Timmy is a quiet thinking guy..
NJ nets k-mart was a Beast!!!!
Timmy is way underrated and KG is way overrated. One speaks too little hence underrated, the only words speaks a lot hence make ppl thinks he greats. Look at stats, kg is way overrated
his battle with Jeremy Lin was probably the toughest tho
kenyon martin was a beast salute bro ur not forgotten
Finally some respect for Timmy
Greatest era of power forwards. Timmy so underrated. I would take him over some of y'all greatest. He never played with another superstat
Kenyon was a badd dude!! Blessed with heart and talent.
Him and b Roy were my favorite players growing up
And that's why he has five rings to KG's one
Incorrect.
Tim was surrounded by hall of Famers and the best coach of all time his entire career.
Bull. Tim was drafted to a playoff team, David Robinson missed the 96-97 season with injury but the year before he was MVP and they were the number 1 seed. He had David Robinson, Sean Elliot Avery Johnson Mario Elie... Loaded with vets Duncan was drafted to a playoff team.
The wolves were an expansion team they had jr Rider and we're awful kg took them from trash to the playoffs and conference finals.
Duncan team were stacked he had David Robinson Manu ginobili tony Parker Stephen Jackson then they added Robert horry and Michael Finley. After fading they add kawhi leaonard.
Kg gets with Paul and Ray and they instantly win
If Kg came up under Pop, was taken in by David Robinson, and played with the other hall of famers and great role players that Timmy had we would be saying even better things about Kg than Duncan. Kg is all around the best power forward to play the game.
@@readytodie116 You guys really need to stop with these what if BS. KG does not have the same skill set as Duncan. There is no way KG and Robinson gets by Shaq and Kobe twice. Only a dominant player could do that.
@@readytodie116 lmao you fucking wish. Duncan is one of the best all around big men of all time. KG aint shit compared to Duncan.
Fubo Sports hope y'all fix the acoustics/audio in general before releasing this on Gil's channel!
Guess this is what Gil's talking about on All the Smoke about his team.
Lol it’s make sense Kenyon was an elite athlete Duncan sheer size and crisp fundamentals made it harder
yeah people keep calling him a power forward but he was bigger than all of them lol. just call him a big m an stop this power forward non sense it was annoying . those guys could not deal with him in the post he was either taller or heavier
@@ryanr20091 Yea dude was 6'11 and like 270. He was always built like a Center and played like one, especially on defense.
@@nostalgicbliss5547 Tim Duncan wasn’t no damn 270. That’s heavy as hell. He was usually around 250, by the end of his career I remembered he was talking about how he dropped down to 235 to take pressure off his knees.
@@trevb2311 Wade at his heaviest was 230 at 6'3. You want me to believe 6'11 Duncan with a massive frame was just 5 pounds heavier? Everyone carries their weight different, but there's no way Duncan was the light.
@@nostalgicbliss5547 Duncan was never 270 lol
Much Gratitude
I don't think this is controversial at all. Of course Martin is speaking from personal experience, and Garnett was never an elite #1 option on offense in the playoffs like Duncan was. Even though his stats were less gaudy, Garnett's peak was in Boston when he could be the #2 or #3 offensive option and contribute through his defense, etc. Garnett is a no-brainer as a HOF, but Duncan was truly dominant on both ends for multiple championship teams.
You’re crazy if think kg peak was in Boston also tim was surrounded by a much better cast which would allow him to score more effectively
Dude u tripping
Prime KG(Minnesota) is better than Giannis.
Watch "Thinking basketball Kevin Garnett" on TH-cam, his greatest peak was with the Wolves, a great video to get insight on.
Kg peak was with twolves theyre west finals run
Excellent breakdown K - Mart!
I’d easily take KG over tim Duncan 💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
Good for you, and I'd pick Tim over KG. Guess it evens out lol
@@Terminator879x11 good for me? Thanks???
I didn't know you hated winning.
@@natebaxter9551 Tim had David Robinson, manu, Parker and coach pop… (amongst other good role players) of course winning was happening… KG didn’t get nearly that much help. No shade towards the big fundu but KG was more skilled
@@robertriojas2639 old David Robinson and a bunch of people you would never talk about if Duncan never existed. If Duncan and Garnett switched teams he'd have at least 2 rings.
Obviously, Tim's supporting cast was much better than KG's outside of a couple years in Boston.
So, the quality help D for Tim was better and more prevalent.
But, KG vs Kenyon in 22 games went.
KG 20.4/12.2/4.4
Kenyon 15.0/6.7/1.7
And Tim vs Kenyon in 26 games went
Tim 20.3/12.0/1.7
Kenyon 10.8/6.2/1.6
So, I think that a large part of what Kenyon was feeling was that his and KG's DAWG mindset were similar, so he didn't have to go anywhere else in his head to play him. Just try to meet his DAWGedness.
While Tim's game plan and thought process was different, so it made him come out his A-typical shell. Which was harder.
Cause Timmy had more overall skill over Garnett, Prime or not.
Nope. Overall SKILL?! Nope, ever saw timmy as a point forward? Ever saw timmy lead the spurs in assist? NO. TD had the better career, but not skill. Go see your facts. TD had the better team and organization but KG was better with overall skill. But nonetheless TD is the best PF of all time.
@@markbaque3633 exactly
Whenever tough guys like Kenyon Martin say "youknowaimsayn" .. and if you don't shake your head or acknowledge for 2-3 straight consecutive times, you'll be put to sleep.
*Nods nods nods* yea so um Yea, that's crazy how good Tim was. Alpha don't let no one phase him.
Lowkey obi toppin could be the next k -Mart
Could be better!
Stop it 😂
As A Knicks Fan Not Defensively His Feet Too Slow
No
Not even close lol Kenyon Martin Jr is better than Obi 😂
That man was a damm good defender 💯
I'm so glad the Rockets picked up his son. Dude has been swatting 7 footer's shots to the stands.
lol, Duncan went 24, 17, 5, 5blks 50% fg in the 2003 finals.... Also, that was an overall looooow scoring series with probably a really low pace: Only 1 game had a team score over 100 points.
Whereas, Martin shot 34% from the field, rofl.
I commend you for even guarding either of those guys 👏
K mart should talk about the time Timmy torched him in the finals with almost a quad double and a sweep.
What if Kmart never leave NJ?Then they get VC. Jkidd VC RJ KMart Kristic. Legit Contender
Cus they didn’t want to give Kmart 65 million
I think VC would've paired perfect with the Phoenix Suns with Nash, Marion, and Stoudemire
KG seemed to settle if not outright like the occasional 15foot baseline J. Timmy wasn't shooting that if he could help it. He wanted that banker and he was gonna get that banker. Self-confidence and pride vs. efficiency. I'm sure Duncan had similar pride in his ability and skillset but I'd suggest he had more restraint and control.
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shouldve asked who was harder between Duncan KG and Dirk. Cause I think Dirk was probably way more frustrating for Kenyon to guard than KG, maybe Duncan
Good ol days
Lol yea Tim was 5 masquerading as 4 lol K Mart was a actual 4 who could guard 5s. Tim & KG already kinda seen where the game was goin. Even playin with Shaq they knew they couldn't be him.
Martin sounds just like my uncle talking about playing! It's cool how relatable he is
He’s that uncle that’s was in prison. Super cool and down to earth. He could say something that probably didn’t happen but you’re too scared to challenge him on it💯😅