The Legendary Pokémon Problem (and How to Fix It)

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  • @Kirbosmith
    @Kirbosmith 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2634

    Ok, everyone knows that the only reason that Mewtwo qualifies as a legendary is because nobody is stupid enough to make a second after what happened with the first.

    • @nousername191
      @nousername191 3 ปีที่แล้ว +215

      Also, you'd have to get your hands on Mew DNA or worse in the original game that was changed, an actual Mew and impregnate it with its clone.
      Does that mean that technically Mewtwo is the Phione case done through science but stronger?

    • @Kirbosmith
      @Kirbosmith 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@nousername191 I guess?

    • @urdeadnotbigsuprise7439
      @urdeadnotbigsuprise7439 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      @@Kirbosmith so does that mean Mewtwo is Mew's long lost son?

    • @Kirbosmith
      @Kirbosmith 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@urdeadnotbigsuprise7439 uhhhhhhhhhh

    • @urdeadnotbigsuprise7439
      @urdeadnotbigsuprise7439 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@Kirbosmith what's the matter? I can roll with that

  • @abcmegalovania5227
    @abcmegalovania5227 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3379

    Pokemon: Is strong, and has a backstory.
    Micheal: "There is another."

    • @charliemcfadden5882
      @charliemcfadden5882 3 ปีที่แล้ว +82

      This took me a minute but goddamn it's an underrated comment

    • @Alex-gr9eu
      @Alex-gr9eu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@charliemcfadden5882 it wont be underrated if it gets 1 more like

    • @dogefan12349
      @dogefan12349 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@charliemcfadden5882 Not really imo

    • @dogefan12349
      @dogefan12349 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      "Micheal"

    • @Awoken0
      @Awoken0 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@charliemcfadden5882 Yet another person who doesn't know what underrated is.

  • @waffelz_
    @waffelz_ ปีที่แล้ว +1273

    “That’s just amateur bird watching.” Probably one of my favorite quotes along with “That’s not a legend, that’s just questionable corporate activity.”

    • @johnsummers2943
      @johnsummers2943 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      That’s not a legendary pokemon its a starter is a good one too.

    • @benjaminrichard4632
      @benjaminrichard4632 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@johnsummers2943 as somebody who really likes poipole, I really hate that quote

    • @Castformsupremacy
      @Castformsupremacy ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@benjaminrichard4632 um why do you hate it
      Poipole really is a starter

    • @kingteddieP4
      @kingteddieP4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@benjaminrichard4632 why? It literally is canonically a starter

    • @Sir-gacha-magic.555
      @Sir-gacha-magic.555 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Here is what I keep saying about the one of kubfu and urshifu:
      That’s not lore of how you came to be, that’s just being kung fu panda

  • @metakirby
    @metakirby ปีที่แล้ว +294

    So here’s my theory with Urshifu. In legends Arceus, we had strong style and agile style for moves. Urshifu could be the last modern Pokemon to be able to use these, single strike for strong and rapid strike for agile. Kubfu’s evolution could simply be it mastering the style.

  • @riol2_
    @riol2_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5558

    “That’s not a legend, that’s just questionable corporate activity.” Another amazing quote.

    • @NeonWasInUse
      @NeonWasInUse 3 ปีที่แล้ว +100

      couldn't the same go for Mewtwo as well?
      Why were they even cloning Mew to the make "Perfect Pokémon" in the first place!?

    • @riol2_
      @riol2_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +151

      @@NeonWasInUse he explained the difference with mewtwo in the video, and they wanted to make a perfect pokemon because...humanity is stupid or something idk

    • @killuazoldyckfan9428
      @killuazoldyckfan9428 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      th-cam.com/video/ILxFzd58woo/w-d-xo.html

    • @slevinchannel7589
      @slevinchannel7589 3 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      Any Idiot knows how to fix most of Gamefreaks Problems.
      They dont even put as much money as they should into this Important Franchise of theirs,
      so even the most simple ideas like "Put more money into it" will work.
      Let alone stuff a 6-Years old can think up.
      Let alone stuff a 10-Years old can think up.
      Tutorial-Skip for example? 20 Years ago, games had these already.
      Way to go, Gamefreak.
      Not gifting Legendarys, not making them worthless and uninteresting? Yeah,
      dont defend it: It's objectively a fact that Little Kids know this is not right to do.
      I even have prove, cause i have seen 6-Years old literally say this - and no, i did not bias them
      beforehand. Nope.

    • @kaytedids6058
      @kaytedids6058 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Why are your comments a hour apart like did you watch twice or think of it later?

  • @chrispna3041
    @chrispna3041 3 ปีที่แล้ว +964

    When he said “legendary zoo” all I thought was a legendary Pokémon petting zoo, and there’s a little five year old girl petting the god Pokémon

    • @potato1094
      @potato1094 3 ปีที่แล้ว +105

      Who's a good God of creation and literally created the universe, you are, you are.

    • @sanscipher435
      @sanscipher435 3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      @@potato1094 *purrs a star to death*

    • @cosmictoast7615
      @cosmictoast7615 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      i just looked at this comment and saw that it has a funny number of likes

    • @runiqe
      @runiqe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      Imagine Yveltal being petted, and he likes it so much, that he curls up into an egg.

    • @pos2260
      @pos2260 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I can only remember of Rusty and all the bone types he created

  • @cromwellthesecond9079
    @cromwellthesecond9079 ปีที่แล้ว +1141

    Definitely shouldn't have discounted pokemon based on battle frontier usage. I feel Regigigas canonically is only one. It doesn't make sense if the regis were made by multiple regigigases

  • @thatmtgnerd
    @thatmtgnerd ปีที่แล้ว +489

    I wouldn't count the battle frontier personally, it seems like a what of scenario where you can go once regular trainers in the world are not strong enough and you can get a challange.

    • @AurelGel
      @AurelGel ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yeah, same

    • @AlfredAAwe
      @AlfredAAwe 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      Yea. Frontier is more like lategame content for fun. Shouldn't count

    • @justinhutchins3335
      @justinhutchins3335 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      Yeah like an area where you could imagine the other trainers as legitimate trainers who’ve completed the game same as you. So they would have encountered the legends on their play through. I picture it was an idea of battle frontier trainers were previous players who’ve beat the game.

    • @silentprotagonist3786
      @silentprotagonist3786 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Anything battle that doesn't give Pokémon Currency (hence Battle Frontier, or the similar stuff in the later games such as Battle Tree of Sun and Moon) don't count as "canon" battles, and hence their teams don't count as well

    • @xtrem5428
      @xtrem5428 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Same. Plus it makes little sense to have so many trainers stronger than the Champion. I just see it as non-canon post game content.

  • @nathoghazi5026
    @nathoghazi5026 3 ปีที่แล้ว +673

    “And when everyone is legendary, nobody will be.”
    -Syndrome

    • @cintronproductions9430
      @cintronproductions9430 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      RIP Syndrome. You were taken away from us way too soon. 😭

    • @themostbritishpersonalive868
      @themostbritishpersonalive868 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Charizard is a legendary now-gamefreak

    • @reversehavoc720
      @reversehavoc720 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Technically he said Super, not legendary, but point still stands

    • @mrgears3045
      @mrgears3045 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@reversehavoc720 he literally just changed the quote, have you not seen the amount of “when everyone’s___” where super is changed into something to fit the joke?

    • @reversehavoc720
      @reversehavoc720 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      First off, I said the point still stands, second, no, I haven't

  • @mr.sheeppeehs4204
    @mr.sheeppeehs4204 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3918

    Considering Argenta has so many legendaries, she’s probably a main character

  • @LukaLaurent
    @LukaLaurent ปีที่แล้ว +357

    I think the criteria are definitely pretty solid, however I think using the Battle Frontier and similar places to rule Pokemon out of contention is a bit pedantic. They're really a bit out of place with the journey you've just taken.
    But hey, your video, so your rules! At least you stuck to your guns.

    • @slicedoxy8048
      @slicedoxy8048 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Today I learn what the word pedantic means

    • @abubakartariq88
      @abubakartariq88 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      love your profile pic used to be my ps4 one

    • @angeloa.lapizar8139
      @angeloa.lapizar8139 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      But he missed the biggest and most important part of being a legendary, which is representing something, or embodying something, like sea, land, space, time, emotions, intellect, philosophy, technology, ideologies, mischief and etc you get the point

    • @angeloa.lapizar8139
      @angeloa.lapizar8139 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      All legendaries represent something in the pokemon family tree

    • @matthewbarabas3052
      @matthewbarabas3052 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      he didnt. he pretended it didnt exist in johto.

  • @adamrathosky1441
    @adamrathosky1441 ปีที่แล้ว +370

    Zygarde is debatable because in sun and moon they mention that the cells are invisible to people who don’t own the zygarde cube so it’s possible that there are zygarde still roaming Kalos

    • @talagaqui6282
      @talagaqui6282 ปีที่แล้ว +71

      Yeah but lorewise all the zygarde cells are all one zygarde but divided to watch kalos, then if therw is a problem one of the cells alert the others so they can form the "real zygarde"

    • @adamrathosky1441
      @adamrathosky1441 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@talagaqui6282 if you think about it there are 50 cells undiscovered by the player so it’s possible there are more core cells(Zygarde cell leaders) and 5 of them are core cells so it’s possible that there could be 5 10% zygardes

    • @amazingsuperabdia1372
      @amazingsuperabdia1372 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@adamrathosky1441 Or the zygarde 100% isn't really 100
      Maybe there is more

    • @adamrathosky1441
      @adamrathosky1441 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@amazingsuperabdia1372 Good point!

    • @BoraCM
      @BoraCM ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I think the 100% Zygarde is the only one that is legendary, since there can only be one of it, whereas there can be 10 10% versions and 2 50% versions.

  • @siragon756
    @siragon756 3 ปีที่แล้ว +490

    The video in a nutshell :
    Long ago, the legendaries lived together in harmony
    Then, everything changed when the Battle Frontiers were built

    • @DeltaDiggs796
      @DeltaDiggs796 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Honestly yeah, okay but what if, arceus just copy/pasted new ones for the sake of humans feeling special. No that wouldn't work cuz of the regi's storyline

    • @justaotter2085
      @justaotter2085 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@DeltaDiggs796 yep arceus the goat

    • @DeltaDiggs796
      @DeltaDiggs796 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@justaotter2085 THE GOAT- oop, what if like it is true, also technically solgaleo and lunala are everywhere because they are the sun and moon, so it makes since that they aren't that rare

    • @mixmasterisboredlol4376
      @mixmasterisboredlol4376 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      this is surprisingly accurate

    • @sir.zermaroon3894
      @sir.zermaroon3894 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@DeltaDiggs796 Arceus: "Welp, why is my save file full??"
      Giratina: "Maybe because you have *100 birds??*

  • @bluekanz9817
    @bluekanz9817 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1167

    "That's just amateur bird watching."
    "That's just questionable corporate activity."
    "That's just a common meet up point."
    This is the best.

    • @Pvaultingfenderbass
      @Pvaultingfenderbass 3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      I was half expecting him to say “That’s not Pokemon, that’s just slavery with extra steps”

    • @randomaccount2880
      @randomaccount2880 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      Also” An angry magma spider”. 🤣

    • @catherineling5437
      @catherineling5437 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I thought he would say for mewtwo before he says he’s legendary
      That’s not legendary that’s just intense cloning

    • @angellexgamer5416
      @angellexgamer5416 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Heatram an Angry Magma Spider.

    • @xiaozhonghe9992
      @xiaozhonghe9992 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That was the best MandJTV said EVER

  • @ryane5281
    @ryane5281 ปีที่แล้ว +120

    By these criteria, in Scarlet and Violet, the ruin legendaries are still legendaries but the box legends are now just alternate forms of Cyclizar

    • @CrownedRex
      @CrownedRex ปีที่แล้ว +32

      That's exactly what they are lol

    • @footman77
      @footman77 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      I mean, they're really just strong paradox pokemon

    • @macemierisch6363
      @macemierisch6363 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      They were never legendary. It doesn’t make much sense for cyclizar to go from legendary to normal back to legendary through time. They are only legendary because of their importance in the story.

    • @LanzagranadasM79
      @LanzagranadasM79 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Well, yeah. Koraidon/Miraidon are Paradox Pokémon, not legendaries. I mean, Koraidon could have been considered legendary if there were records and stories of it from ancient times. But it's impossible for Miraidon or anything that literally comes from the future to be a legend.

    • @jaybee946
      @jaybee946 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@macemierisch6363 That part is totally possible. Natural selection could have made them smaller and weaker but more numerous. But then pushed them into a different niche where they're again more rare and more powerful. Evolution has caused plenty of animal species to get smaller and weaker, and then caused them to become larger and stronger again.

  • @GamingRabbit17
    @GamingRabbit17 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    The Legendary Criteria excludes Koraidon and Moraidon
    - 2 of them in each game
    - lore pretty much outright states they are past and future forms of a pokemon that is common to the region, and would probably be common themselves in their own time

    • @robertlupa8273
      @robertlupa8273 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But what if the time machine (that brought the past/future mons to present) isn't what it seems?

    • @GamingRabbit17
      @GamingRabbit17 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@robertlupa8273 I don't doubt it, we might get more answers in the DLC.
      personal theory: not past/future, but alternate timelines, perceived as past/future due to the pokemon looking like past/future forms of pokemon we know.

    • @-BenGaming-
      @-BenGaming- 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Dude how could the box art legendaries not be legendary 😂😂😂😂

    • @GamingRabbit17
      @GamingRabbit17 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@-BenGaming- Hey, this is all just a theory

    • @RetroLiminal99444
      @RetroLiminal99444 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@-BenGaming-exactly. The Pokémon company says they are legendary so that’s that.
      Plus it looks like they will get Tera forms or states of some kind (there is a Tera symbol on their Pokédex picture which is the same as Ogerpon’s picture)
      So these guys have more to offer.

  • @Hunterr_____
    @Hunterr_____ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +387

    “We’re having legendaries shoved down our throat”
    *Me imagining people choking on a Regiggigas*

  • @jackdavis98
    @jackdavis98 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1592

    “How do you have identical people in different places? It’s not real!”
    Nurse Joy enters the chat.

    • @mortorchi1884
      @mortorchi1884 3 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      The nurse Joy’s and officer Jenny’s are sisters to each other. Go watch the anime!

    • @jackdavis98
      @jackdavis98 3 ปีที่แล้ว +71

      @@mortorchi1884 anime’s a slightly different universe, but also…same exact scenario? 😂

    • @TheStigHCE09
      @TheStigHCE09 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@mortorchi1884 Cousins*

    • @mortorchi1884
      @mortorchi1884 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@TheStigHCE09 check your facts before you say something, most of them are sister’s, some of them are cousin’s.

    • @mortorchi1884
      @mortorchi1884 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@TheStigHCE09 like I said MOST of them are sisters which is why I said sisters

  • @KappaDeKappa
    @KappaDeKappa ปีที่แล้ว +92

    Has it ever been explicitly stated that Legendaries were, or were supposed to be, singular creatures? I thought that was only true for Mythicals.

    • @Joker-fq6yx
      @Joker-fq6yx ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Fun fact: there have been multiple mewtwos in Kalos. Lore wise, Mega stones are from pokemon killed by the Ultimate Weapon, and since there are 2 mewtwo mega stones, there was a mewtwo in the war, maybe two, or maybe even more, and that’s alongside the mewtwo that’s actually in the game

    • @KappaDeKappa
      @KappaDeKappa ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I think most people are confused about MewTwo. Yes it was 'created', but not from scratch. It was a forced evolution if anything. If a Mew *wanted* to, it could probably evolve into a MewTwo.

    • @cateila
      @cateila ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Its not even true for mythicals, There was billions of mew before they migrated into other pokemon like Kyogre and Groudon.

    • @cateila
      @cateila ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@KappaDeKappa Mew can't evolve into a MewTwo, mew doesn't evolve they slowly migrate into other creatures like Kyogre and Groudon. Mew ≠ Mewtwo

    • @cateila
      @cateila ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@KappaDeKappaMewtwo was cloned from dna from mew after countless failures (ditto), he’s artificial

  • @NotifyYT
    @NotifyYT ปีที่แล้ว +125

    Fun fact: starters are actually quite rare

    • @arnaldomadrid6402
      @arnaldomadrid6402 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Charizard: and I took that personal

    • @Kytchu_soundslike_kyju
      @Kytchu_soundslike_kyju 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Then, how did a random guy in the battle tower somehow get his hands on all three Gallar starters

    • @NotifyYT
      @NotifyYT 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      @@Kytchu_soundslike_kyju Random Npc luck = 📈
      Player luck = 📉

    • @Kytchu_soundslike_kyju
      @Kytchu_soundslike_kyju 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      *Confused Akoos noises*

    • @Raytheharbinger0
      @Raytheharbinger0 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@Kytchu_soundslike_kyju Rare doesn't mean impossible to get.

  • @kiyanyacoob4181
    @kiyanyacoob4181 3 ปีที่แล้ว +573

    “Leon had a kubfu at one point, but couldn’t get to the tower” he got lost on the way didn’t he.

    • @Cam-rz4zd
      @Cam-rz4zd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Underrated comment

    • @ultmewtwo
      @ultmewtwo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It might end up with mustard

    • @jacobkohr7243
      @jacobkohr7243 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      yup
      Mustard himself says that's what happened.

    • @d.s8679
      @d.s8679 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He was looking for Mustard/mustard

    • @theblublade
      @theblublade 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yessss

  • @bradleighwilliams4527
    @bradleighwilliams4527 3 ปีที่แล้ว +864

    Idk why but the delivery of "Poipole's not a legendary Pokemon, it's a starter!" Made me laugh so hard

    • @sivaprakasamshanmugam7676
      @sivaprakasamshanmugam7676 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Man I wonder what are the other starters

    • @BeckyBaluga
      @BeckyBaluga 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@sivaprakasamshanmugam7676 it could even have a 3rd form in its home world that people on earth can not achieve and the other starters might be other ultra beasts with evaluations that people can not find for the same reason

    • @alfawulf3540
      @alfawulf3540 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Ngl, i'd love to start with a poipole... would be an interesting challenge to start with a pure poison type rather than a fire/water/grass starter

    • @kerrywien6775
      @kerrywien6775 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I love calyrex and calyrex is an amazing pokemon and calyrex is a majestic rabbit jackrabbit pokemon but tbh, calyrex looks more like a mythical pokemon rather than a legendary pokemon due to its role as a king pokemon and it’s design and even more, calyrex shares a same typing in psychic/grass with another mythical pokemon and
      calyrex possesses the time travel/ability to see the past, present and future similar with another mythical pokemon that is the same typing with calyrex, calyrex is obviously planned to be a mythical pokemon, but was made a legendary pokemon instead to add more legendaries in the DLC. And calyrex is among the best legendary pokemons. Like, calyrex is a overpowered pokemon once calyrex is fused with his steeds, you need to run for your life because calyrex will have you & your pokemons for breakfast.

    • @yummydragon8533
      @yummydragon8533 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Maybe the other starters are grass type and ground type, and their second evolutions add a dragon typing

  • @aaroncallahan119
    @aaroncallahan119 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    I love how the lore about Cosmog boils down to the citizens witnessing a Lunala and Solgaleo getting freaky and making more baby Cosmogs.

  • @InquisitorThomas
    @InquisitorThomas 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    I think Scarlet and Violet proves an alternative to this theory, I don’t think the issue with Legendaries isn’t necessarily that there are too many, its that legendaries are kinda Samey, you can only have so many “Stoic embodiments/guardians of the natural world that nobly wait for you to catch them after fighting the villainous team leader for the final time” before it gets old, and man has it gotten old. But I love Miraidon and Koraidon, and recently Ogrepon and heck even the Loyal Three because these legendaries feel like actual character and creatures that I’m invested in instead of a really big not quite dragon thing at the back of a 11 x 7 cave.

    • @sheridathompson7091
      @sheridathompson7091 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Wait the lousy three are legendaries?

  • @A_Random_Rat
    @A_Random_Rat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +433

    I don’t think the battle frontier is canon. They put some legendaries in there to make it harder for the player.

    • @Eric-py8yy
      @Eric-py8yy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      True

    • @talonqueenzulia313
      @talonqueenzulia313 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Ah so barry has no dad

    • @Eric-py8yy
      @Eric-py8yy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@talonqueenzulia313 i mean that the legendary that they have arent cannon

    • @mr.preston1632
      @mr.preston1632 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@talonqueenzulia313 makes sense

    • @talonqueenzulia313
      @talonqueenzulia313 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@Eric-py8yy that would make more sense. I like to think when they use legendary mons its apart of a simulation. Its dumb but pokemon has done worse

  • @PhineasOyna
    @PhineasOyna 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3102

    As an amateur bird watcher, I can confirm that I see flying Pokémon every time

    • @DHC189
      @DHC189 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      XD

    • @inovotny1412
      @inovotny1412 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Hmm, yes you do

    • @guyvingelli9046
      @guyvingelli9046 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      I see, someone taking their time to spy on government drones. Noble work. Also that’s a pretty nice amount of likes. Whoops not anymore.

    • @xcoyotezetax4636
      @xcoyotezetax4636 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Aw just show me

    • @RyzenLine
      @RyzenLine 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      XD 🗿

  • @Foyay_Red
    @Foyay_Red ปีที่แล้ว +22

    “They took the battle frontier, and pushed it somewhere else.” - Micheal “let’s take bikini bottom, and push it somewhere else.” - Patrick

  • @stammesbruder
    @stammesbruder ปีที่แล้ว +57

    I don't see why legendaries should only exist once "per region". Either there exist multiple, or there is only one. If only one exists, it should only be found in one region. If there are multiple, then they might as well show up in the same region. Additionally, just because has written legends about it, doesn't mean it is the one of its kind. Take unicorns and dragons - legendary creatures for sure, but there are multiple stories of different dragons (and dragon slayers mind you), while unicorns are being spoken of as protectors of multiple regions.
    I would argue instead, that no more than one should be accessible to the player.

    • @johnsummers2943
      @johnsummers2943 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I like this.

    • @saturniidmoff
      @saturniidmoff ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Once per region because it’s for player access. I mean in Oras the legends are appearing via hoopa rings so they are probably just being taken from the other region

    • @danielwoody6582
      @danielwoody6582 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If they made 2 mewtwos, is it’s origin and legend really any different?

  • @aydenraine470
    @aydenraine470 3 ปีที่แล้ว +156

    Groudon be like:
    When in doubt...
    start the drought
    Kyogre be like:
    When it's not beneficial...
    Start the drizzle
    Rayquaza be like:
    When Kyogre and Groudon are being mean...
    Start the freaking Delta stream

  • @MegaBebb
    @MegaBebb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2873

    Personally, I would discount any scenario where multiple legendary show up as a result of battle towers/frontiers/factories. They seem to me to only exist as an extra post-game challenge

    • @bonkregulator5237
      @bonkregulator5237 2 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      yes

    • @dennisdexter5602
      @dennisdexter5602 2 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      Yea I think so too

    • @ChangedMyNameFinally69
      @ChangedMyNameFinally69 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      But do they exist in universe then?

    • @dennisdexter5602
      @dennisdexter5602 2 ปีที่แล้ว +173

      @@ChangedMyNameFinally69 battle frontier is basically an AI PvP simulation for post game fun

    • @ChangedMyNameFinally69
      @ChangedMyNameFinally69 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      @@dennisdexter5602 I mean Annabel pops up in SuMo, so they do exist. And she has Raikou

  • @lentao81
    @lentao81 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    I had no idea the kubfoo line was considered legendary. I definitely agree with cutting them out 😹

  • @d-anca3491
    @d-anca3491 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    In the time that video was made Pokémon Sol and Luna where the only ones with the box pokémons not counted as legendaries, now we have Violet and Scarlet too.

  • @camillekalaw7627
    @camillekalaw7627 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1279

    But what about the ACTUAL legendary Pokemon: Arcanine 👀
    Edit: Omg I didn’t expect this to blow up! To make things a little more clear on why I made this comment: Arcanine’s actual Pokedex entry says it’s the “Legendary Pokemon.” I know that there’s multiple of them and what not 😅

    • @whymustyoulookhere7112
      @whymustyoulookhere7112 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Theres a lot, no lore, not Strong enough.

    • @utubeiskaren7796
      @utubeiskaren7796 2 ปีที่แล้ว +189

      @@whymustyoulookhere7112 bUt ThE pOkÉdEx SaYs It Is LeGeNdArY sO iT’s LeGeNdArY

    • @wayneaaron4410
      @wayneaaron4410 2 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      Yeeeesss! I love this. Its all about the true legendary pokemon Arcanine

    • @ThatOneRedBoi
      @ThatOneRedBoi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +79

      no.
      the real legendary Pokémon is bidoof

    • @ItsYou195
      @ItsYou195 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      You all are forgetting Magicarp

  • @hebislay
    @hebislay 3 ปีที่แล้ว +520

    “ The game series has been there for 25 years”
    Well.... I’m an old woman.

    • @Inconsolable_Weeb
      @Inconsolable_Weeb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Zoras live for a long time.... GRANDMA!!! :3

    • @jakk9560
      @jakk9560 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Hi I'm a 21 year old man lol

    • @hebislay
      @hebislay 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@jakk9560 I’m 159

    • @realjooj1296
      @realjooj1296 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Inconsolable_Weeb ew

    • @alleyoliver3315
      @alleyoliver3315 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      As someone born in the year Pokemon first released... I feel you.

  • @matchi457
    @matchi457 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    For the regi trio, id like to think that they ARE legendary, its just that because of their descent of non organic material, trainers are able to 'copy' or make an inorganic version of them, just for battles like the battle frontier and as rentals. Although no excuse for the other pokemon like that lmao

    • @lokikinnaird2739
      @lokikinnaird2739 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      F the battle frontier the reason it exists is to give you a challenge

  • @ayylmaoowatnext6748
    @ayylmaoowatnext6748 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    "That would be like someone on an alien world calling Tyrannitar legendary."
    I guess ten year old me was from an alien world lmao.

    • @Amelia4111
      @Amelia4111 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      THERE SHOULD BE ONLY ONE N IN TYRANITAR!

  • @gandalfdergraue6005
    @gandalfdergraue6005 2 ปีที่แล้ว +762

    I never really thought about it but I think I always instinctively classified the Battle Towers, etc. as non-canon.
    I mean isn't it just fan service so we can have some awesome fights against Pokémon we usually only encounter once?!

    • @theendersmirk5851
      @theendersmirk5851 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Second option: what if all the Pokemon are simulated?

    • @5thar
      @5thar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Exactly, it also gives Mons past gen 4 an advantage as if gen 5 had a fronter they would totally use the genies and sword of justice😅😅

    • @susear5939
      @susear5939 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Barry just went fatherless in your thoughts🙁

    • @secretlysaber5654
      @secretlysaber5654 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@susear5939 just like everyone in pokemon

    • @cuddlebug9699
      @cuddlebug9699 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes but they are canon in stuff like the anime and manga right?

  • @the_godbodor7026
    @the_godbodor7026 3 ปีที่แล้ว +431

    Mikey: “That’s like someone from another world calling Tyranitar a legendary”
    My brain: “Shove as many Garbodor through portals to other worlds as possible”

    • @silasmeinardus9831
      @silasmeinardus9831 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Garbodor is my favorite legendary by far

    • @arajesh5
      @arajesh5 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@silasmeinardus9831 lol

    • @connormoffat7348
      @connormoffat7348 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Ultra beasts(besides poipole) are pseudo legendary pokemon and thats it

    • @connormoffat7348
      @connormoffat7348 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      My brain: snom

    • @connormoffat7348
      @connormoffat7348 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      But yes garbodor

  • @sethporter9066
    @sethporter9066 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    So, by this logic, you could say that in Scarlet and Violet, Koraidon and Miraidon are not legendaries either.
    Test #2: Their backstory is that they came from the future/past. Sure there are the stories in the Scarlet/Violet Books, but they also describe the Paradox Pokemon which, in a similar situation as the Ultra Beasts, are just versions of present day Pokemon from the past or future! Heck, even Arven and/or Professor Sada/Turo (forget who said it) remarks that Koraidon/Miraidon looks like a prehistoric/futuristic Cyclizar, a common Pokemon in Paldea!
    Test #3: Following the line of thinking above, there are definitely more than one of each. The second Koraidon/Miraidon that injures the first one we encountered. We even fight the second one at the end of the game and can catch it post-game!
    Koraidon and Miraidon are not legendary, just Cyclizars from different time periods.

  • @AstraViolet
    @AstraViolet ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Unknown are legendary, they literally have a book of legends about them. and its not like they just roam the world they're only located in mythical temples or whatever

    • @Cheeseman826
      @Cheeseman826 ปีที่แล้ว

      They’re are multiple

    • @jorgeoquendo7514
      @jorgeoquendo7514 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@Cheeseman826 There are multiple of many legendaries, that is objectively not a good criteria and it was even an issue in his video

    • @quiteslayer4067
      @quiteslayer4067 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jorgeoquendo7514 I think the idea behind it was many legendary creatures of our world are often depicted as just 1 individual, while others like dragons and unicorns are definitely rare and special, but most times are just that, a rare species that sometimes has special properties, but so do electric eels so that’s definitely not legendary. The only time when this is not the case is when like a dragon is also a god, which in that case there is only 1 of it (as far as I’m aware of at least).

    • @maxthommesen9315
      @maxthommesen9315 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Cheeseman826 Entai is a legend and every time a vulcano errupts one is born

  • @bradwyant2993
    @bradwyant2993 3 ปีที่แล้ว +223

    Micheal: all mythics are legendary anyway.
    Meltan: *nervous laugh*

    • @ChomperkaGregnant
      @ChomperkaGregnant 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Zarude: *climbs a tree*

    • @joestarjester6011
      @joestarjester6011 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Type null:legendary.exe has stoped2 working

    • @plushytv5295
      @plushytv5295 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Mew: *Teleports away*
      Because you can get one for 20$

    • @mew2921
      @mew2921 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@plushytv5295 there were tons of them before they turned into every other pokemon

    • @weirdoticmakekrookodileimp4160
      @weirdoticmakekrookodileimp4160 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Arceus: covers self with arms

  • @SiddharthShenoy
    @SiddharthShenoy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +302

    The Non-Legendary Legendary Pokémon: **exist**
    Everyone: *"We will watch your career with great disappointment."*

    • @slevinchannel7589
      @slevinchannel7589 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Any Idiot knows how to fix most of Gamefreaks Problems.
      They dont even put as much money as they should into this Important Franchise of theirs,
      so even the most simple ideas like "Put more money into it" will work.
      Let alone stuff a 6-Years old can think up.
      Let alone stuff a 10-Years old can think up.
      Tutorial-Skip for example? 20 Years ago, games had these already.
      Way to go, Gamefreak.
      Not gifting Legendarys, not making them worthless and uninteresting? Yeah,
      dont defend it: It's objectively a fact that Little Kids know this is not right to do.
      I even have prove, cause i have seen 6-Years old literally say this - and no, i did not bias them
      beforehand. Nope.

    • @SiddharthShenoy
      @SiddharthShenoy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@slevinchannel7589 Agreed.

  • @MoochMoment
    @MoochMoment 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    A reminder that literal God is not considered Legendary but Heatran is

    • @Sielnt_Mateo
      @Sielnt_Mateo หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I mean it's Mythic. That's above legendary.

  • @tanujsiddanati2070
    @tanujsiddanati2070 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    This video was somthing that is a fact, pokemon should just have made the " sub legendarys and legandarys( fake ones) a whole diffrent catagory while the mythical pokemon saty mythical

  • @Neo-iu6mx
    @Neo-iu6mx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +162

    "God, How did she get a hold of all these legends. My God Argenta" that one got me

  • @Jasdenvideos
    @Jasdenvideos 3 ปีที่แล้ว +223

    "All mythical pokemon fit all the criteria anyway"
    Meltan, which is definitely not a unique Pokémon to it's home region in any way

    • @Archtik
      @Archtik 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      also a lack of backstory

    • @dr.swaggy6962
      @dr.swaggy6962 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      And meltan is weak

    • @BradKarmour
      @BradKarmour 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What region would that be...?

    • @knowhatnot347
      @knowhatnot347 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I know some Pokémon are just like this but why do meltan amd melmetal exist

    • @knowhatnot347
      @knowhatnot347 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Well it is from “unknown origins in Pokémon home in let’s go the go park complex so Kanto and the anime ashes just somehow evolves he didn’t even give it candy so in the anime Alola

  • @Unknown_user6969
    @Unknown_user6969 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    This video makes a lot more sense now with the past paradox Pokemon in Scarlet and Violet. It's highly possible that many of these legendary Pokemon are simply members of ancient species that survived until the modern day and is far stronger than most modern Pokemon as a result.

  • @davyunwashington3613
    @davyunwashington3613 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    If I remember correctly for every volcano that is formed a heatran is born ?

    • @Amelia4111
      @Amelia4111 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      VOLCANO DOES NOT END WITH AN E!

    • @davyunwashington3613
      @davyunwashington3613 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Amelia4111was a small mistake

  • @nch2711
    @nch2711 3 ปีที่แล้ว +271

    “It’s not a legendary pokemon, it’s a starter!!”
    That had me laughing.

    • @Amber_Scarlet
      @Amber_Scarlet 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What's the difference?

    • @sparecreeper1580
      @sparecreeper1580 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Amber_Scarlet legendarys break out of every ultra ball you throw at them, while starters do not

    • @Amber_Scarlet
      @Amber_Scarlet 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@sparecreeper1580 Ah, I see. So that Bulbasaur was a legendary then.

    • @kingj8748
      @kingj8748 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@sparecreeper1580 Ah ok so that's why I couldn't capture Joey's ratata he must have a barrier protecting him

  • @-Retired-
    @-Retired- 3 ปีที่แล้ว +364

    Honestly I never considered any of the battle frontiers canon... Especially for this reason

    • @KaiMCGRPS
      @KaiMCGRPS 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Agreed

    • @Zacharieishigh
      @Zacharieishigh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      I think that the battle frontier isn't canon too, it's just a fun side thing and there are legendaries in it because they are decent pokemon

    • @xanderm3890
      @xanderm3890 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Yeah and tbh you CAN’T say the person who created legendary pokemon(regigigas) isn’t legendary

    • @justinalicea1590
      @justinalicea1590 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      If you ignore that Emerald, the game that introduces the Battle Frontier, doesn't treat it as a side gig at all. It's introduced very early on by meeting Scoot right after Wally catches his first Pokémon and he is seen several times throughout the game before finally bringing the player to the Battle Frontier as a reward for becoming the Champion. So the Battle Frontier is in fact a part of the narrative of Emerald. This extends to Platinum, where Barry's father is a Frontier Brain.

    • @tommybaez3219
      @tommybaez3219 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@justinalicea1590 Great point

  • @d0rkl0rd92
    @d0rkl0rd92 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    gonna extend this to include gen 9:
    the Paradox Cyclizars: not legendary. plenty strong, but basically no lore and there's 2 of each (in the present, they're supposedly abundant in their home times)
    Treasures of ruin: still legendary. very strong, theres the whole tale with the king of paldea, plus theres only 1 of each

  • @Tiagx
    @Tiagx 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    "Poipole's not a Legendary Pokémon,
    IT'S A *S T A R T E R* !"
    this lone got me XD

  • @phyrexiannewborn7104
    @phyrexiannewborn7104 3 ปีที่แล้ว +767

    Cubone's Mom is Legendary.

    • @feliperivas1382
      @feliperivas1382 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      How is marowak a legendary?

    • @benjaminwu100
      @benjaminwu100 2 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      @@feliperivas1382 It's a joke.

    • @hachinkun2220
      @hachinkun2220 2 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      It's a joke because that Marowak fits all three of the criteria.

    • @benjaminwu100
      @benjaminwu100 2 ปีที่แล้ว +81

      @@hachinkun2220 To expand on that:
      1. It's strong
      2. Lore behind the skull
      3. There's only one because you cant find it in the wild except for the skull
      Also, the reason why it is a joke is because when you hatch a Cubone egg, it already has the skull of it's mother.

    • @UselessAccountt
      @UselessAccountt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Press (X) to doubt @@feliperivas1382

  • @wesleybaldwin1999
    @wesleybaldwin1999 2 ปีที่แล้ว +501

    The battle frontier is a poor inclusion in cannon. It's a post game "what if" battle challenge

    • @xanderm3890
      @xanderm3890 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yep

    • @Arcaninos
      @Arcaninos ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Frontier battle, battle house and the like are not canon, I agree.
      Use this argument to invalidate Latios and Latias when the Pokédex says this in Emerald about Latias: "They make a small herd of only several members. They rarely make contact with people or other Pokémon. They disappear if they sense enemies."
      In addition it would make uniqueness to Azelf, Mesprit, Uxie and Regigigas who have no reason not to be unique due to their very strong and important tradition. As much as the Regi have temples in many regions and are just materials that can be reproduced by their creator, as much Regigigas has a high mobility (according to legends he is responsible for continental drift and cannot be recreated).
      Oh and Entei is canonically not unique according to Argent's Pokedex: "A Pokémon that races across the land. It is said that one is born every time a new volcano appears."
      Then Heatran is just a gendered beast that haunts volcanoes with no role (certainly not unique).

    • @LaprasTrainerLiam1031
      @LaprasTrainerLiam1031 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Arcaninos Seriously, I've never heard anyone but him try to say that the Battle Frontier is cannon! That's insane! Also, I have to share these thoughts of mine, otherwise I might go crazy!
      Ahem...
      This is one of the most painful Poketuber videos I've ever watched... Seriously?! You're using the non cannon battles with the Battle Frontiers to justify why a ton of these Pokemon don't count as Legendaries?! Also, the double standards with stuff like the Legendary Beasts & Legendary Birds make me want to drink bleach! He gets onto the birds case because they don't have much backstory, even though Pokemon just started as a franchise, so you expecting super deep backstory for why something isn't a legendary is petty IMO. And yet the Legendary Beasts don't have much of a backstory ether, since all that happened was that they died and came back to life, they do nothing for the region after that happens! Look, I get that we all have our opinions, but if he has to stretch THIS MUCH to make his arguments, then that's just pathetic in my eyes... 😮‍💨

    • @Arcaninos
      @Arcaninos ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@LaprasTrainerLiam1031 In any case Legendary is a title for at least extremely rare Pokémon, sometimes with associated myths (but this point is not mandatory)
      This means that all the Pokémon in the video are either primary or secondary Legendary Pokémon (with the exception of the Ultra-Beast which are common in their world and not recognized as Legendary on The Pokemon Company's communication, although the codes make them specials close to secondary legendaries, probably for balancing reasons as they have high stats and are inspired by invasive species but pushed to the interdimensional)
      That said, some of them are still unique whether by logic in their lore and function, or because nothing implies that there are more than one. This is the case for Mewtwo, Ho-Oh, Lugia, Kyogre, Groudon, Rayquaza, Uxie, Mesprit, Azelf, Dialga, Palkia, Regigigas, Giratina, Cobalion, Terrakion, Virizion, Tornadus, Thundurus, Reshiram, Zekrom, Kyurem, Landorus, Xerneas, Yveltal, Zygarde-Complete, Tapu Koko, Tapu Lele, Tapa Bulu, Tapu Fini, Necrozma, Zacian, Zamazenta, Eternatus, Calyrex and Enamorus.
      Calyrex's mounts may be questionable, but I don't think they are unique, especially since there is no unique horse in the canon, it seems to be interchangeable and taking on the same function. It's not like duos like Palkia and Dialga who each have a different function and are not mutually exclusive. And maybe Cresselia ?
      Special mention for Solgaleo and Lunala, even if they are not unique on a world scale, are special cases because they can literally travel at the speed of light and transcend dimensions. I mean, if we assume that all planets that could support life in the universe were to be terraformed by a Weather Trio, there would be several (but not on Earth), the difference being that they don't travel at the speed of light and don't change dimensions.
      As Solgaleo and Lunala are light regulators (one is the embodiment of sunlight and changes night into day and the other is the embodiment of moonlight and can change day into night), there will be as many as there are worlds and there are billions of stars in the universe (not to mention other universes).
      Cosmog (nebula) -> Cosmoem (proto-star) -> Solgaleo/Lunala (star/solar system), this is just symbolically the formation of the stars. They're just a reflection of something as complex and vast as themselves unlike the other legends.

    • @Ashlevon
      @Ashlevon ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Battle Frontier, apart from it just existing, shouldn't be counted as canon in any way. Its roster of possible pokemon are largely the same as the player's. If legendaries appear there, then no pokemon is unique, because you can link battle with someone else that also has a legendary. Oh, you think that Mewtwo is unique? Well, my friend has one, and so do I, and you can catch one too, and we can all battle each other. Not a very unique pokemon anymore, is it? So yeah, arguments in favor of the Battle Frontier being canon doesn't track well. The entire Battle Frontier concept is basically just competitive pokemon battling in singleplayer mode.

  • @killersugar6816
    @killersugar6816 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    In Gen 1 & 2, I always considered all the Pokémon you could catch only one of, as legendary. This included Snorlax, Lapras, Hitmonchan, Hitmonlee, and the two fossil Pokémon.

    • @PogChimp
      @PogChimp 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      but you can catch two snorlaxes? the one blocking cycling road and the one blocking the routes south of lavender town

    • @Raytheharbinger0
      @Raytheharbinger0 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hitmonchan and Hitmonlee as well as Lapras and Snorlax aren't legendaries. Way too many exist in the world sam with the fossil pokemon.

  • @hulky333
    @hulky333 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    You shouldn't count battle towers or battle frontiers.
    What?!! If you gonna count Regidraco and Regieleki as Legendaries, the you gotta count the others ones too.

  • @lordkroak9468
    @lordkroak9468 3 ปีที่แล้ว +167

    Regeileki/Regidrago: Yes!! We made it into Legendary status!
    The other Regie’s: *B O I*

    • @dragonfireforever2749
      @dragonfireforever2749 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Then regigigas makes more to just so they are no longer legendary

    • @Airkong423
      @Airkong423 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      *Regidrago

    • @lordkroak9468
      @lordkroak9468 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Airkong423 Ok thanks I will edit it

    • @a_random_lizard
      @a_random_lizard 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Remember, Regigigas only build the dragon head for Regidrago cause he ran out of materials, so that means Regidrago is the one AND ONLY

    • @rocketeer9183
      @rocketeer9183 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Regigigas making more regis and not finishing them is such strange lore lol. Did it get sealed away before the galar regis could be finished?

  • @maxim_beatbox
    @maxim_beatbox 2 ปีที่แล้ว +508

    I never considered ultra beasts legendary because they’re just normal Pokémon from another dimension. There are MANY multiples of them in the games and anime. I completely agree with you

    • @Chickoboy
      @Chickoboy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      i think that ultra beasts aren't even considered pokemon, they are complerely different beeings

    • @championboy4782
      @championboy4782 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Chickoboy #slavery

    • @FoxGalahHasMovedToNewAccounts
      @FoxGalahHasMovedToNewAccounts 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Me too

    • @Chickoboy
      @Chickoboy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@championboy4782 ?

    • @srmlkj
      @srmlkj 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Chickoboy nah they can be catch by PokeBalls but only when they reach our universe

  • @crosshair47
    @crosshair47 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    fun fact, there are canonicaly more than one dialga and palkia. in the games it shows arkoos making dialga/palkia eggs.

    • @Amelia4111
      @Amelia4111 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      *IT'S ARCEUS, NOT F*CKING ARKOOS! SAY IT RIGHT!*

    • @crosshair47
      @crosshair47 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@Amelia4111 bro calm down its something about the channel jesus

    • @crosshair47
      @crosshair47 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@Amelia4111 the last 2 comments u poseted were shouting at people in capitals about misspelling why are u hating on so many people for no reason?

  • @senseironingaming6074
    @senseironingaming6074 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Only thing about the criteria I have a problem with is 1.has to be strong, I don’t think a legendary Pokémon has to be strong it can be legendary for other reasons like being one of its kind making it so rare that people might believe it don’t exist making it a “legend” or it could have lore like , the legendary ( blank ) is legend for its ability to deceive or some other reason

    • @dreamdevil6666
      @dreamdevil6666 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I also agree. Cosmos is weak and DEFINITELY NOT STRONG. But Solgaleo and Lunala are strong.And does BST Really make a difference? If so how much is considered WEAK. What we think is weak might not be in the Pokemon Universe. Also I want to point out that Regigiggus may SUCK in battle but CANONICLY It's one of the strongest legendary pokemon. Go watch JPR Poketrainer98's video on "How strong is every legendary pokemon canonicaly?" For more information.

    • @your.mom69395
      @your.mom69395 ปีที่แล้ว

      I also agree that legendary pokemon shouldn't be strong. i mean irl legends, the myrmecoleon aren't strong plus fairies are (sometimes pictured as) multiple of them. So the strong and there can be only one are false, the only thing that classifies legendaries as legends is if they have an interesting story with them.

  • @gddisplay_name_error7150
    @gddisplay_name_error7150 3 ปีที่แล้ว +289

    “Are they found only once?”
    *Laughs in resets.*

    • @neecocarbrerrah1266
      @neecocarbrerrah1266 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      It's also funny how your pfp is sans from undertale with resets being a very important part of the storyline

    • @RSA91
      @RSA91 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Well the timeline and everything also reset so it is still one pokemon

    • @cometcal7387
      @cometcal7387 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@neecocarbrerrah1266 lmao

    • @TadpoleTail
      @TadpoleTail 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ribbit!

    • @wet0wl
      @wet0wl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      *Laughs in trading from other save files*

  • @floqui3300
    @floqui3300 2 ปีที่แล้ว +165

    "that's just amateur bird watching!"
    the now birds: oh okay.....

  • @tylarsentance2303
    @tylarsentance2303 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Zapdos is the creator of thunder and storms
    Articuno creates cold weather and blizzards
    Moltres provides warmth meaning all have the legend of weather

  • @deltapenguin78
    @deltapenguin78 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    So with the Regis I personally think the lore behind them only applies to the Regis you find in the sealed caves and the ones that the battle frontier uses are ones that get created later by Regigias. That's my personal headcanon

    • @Raytheharbinger0
      @Raytheharbinger0 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The 3 regis should just be pseudo legendaries. Pseudo legendaries like Dragonite and Metagross have multiples that can be obtained. Still respectable pokemon but not quite on the same level as a full on legendary. Regigias should be a legendary since only 1 is ever obtained legitimately.

  • @deoxysoverlord8710
    @deoxysoverlord8710 3 ปีที่แล้ว +616

    I like how in Sun and Moon, you just casually travel to an alternate universe.
    Edit: For those who don't know what I'm talking about, I'm talking about how on Pokemon Sun/Moon or USUM, you travel through a portal found in the Altar of Sunne/Moone, and you end up in an alternate version of Alola. The region is almost exactly the same, and you can even talk to all of the NPCs, and your mom, as if nothing ever happened. Although technically those are alternate versions of the characters, and that is an alternate version of your mom. And the game stays like that until you travel back through the portal.
    (But if you're like me and you forget to travel back, then you'll be living in an alternate version of Alola forever.)
    And the reason I say you "casually" travel to that alternate universe, is because it's so subtle, and literally no one talks about it. But it's very interesting to think that you're in an alternate reality now. Especially with those like me who are fans of the Mandela Effect, and alternate realities.

    • @hoopynaena3
      @hoopynaena3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      “Oh these are some pretty cool banana- AAAAAahHhH”

    • @eriklazo5499
      @eriklazo5499 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      man that really killed legendary's for me instead of going to a temple and having a mini adventure were you will able to find the legendary pokemon (like mewtwo in pokemon fire red) all you have to do is go to a alternate universe and walk a straight path

    • @kerrywien6775
      @kerrywien6775 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I have a fun fact for You:I 💯% believe that
      necrozma is a dragon 🐉 and its base form has a torso of a dragon’s head 🐉 and that’s why its torso predicts the ultra burst 💥 form of ultra necrozma but necrozma should’ve been a dragon type in all of its forms because it is the third legendary pokemon of generation 7 and every single third legendary pokemon is a dragon 🐉 type in all of their forms except for regular necrozma but once again, regular form necrozma is a dragon 🐉 but just the dragon’s head and torso and why it’s still pure psychic type until necrozma has enough light to return to its original form and becomes the original dragon 🐉 of light 💡 ultra necrozma. This to me makes necrozma my favorite dragon 🐉 type pokemon and yes, necrozma is a dragon 🐉. I also like how necrozma gave light 💡 to alola and creates the islands of alola and ultra necrozma has a cool badass design and it’s easily one of my favorite dragon 🐉 type pokemons and I also love how ultra necrozma saves poipole and poipole’s world from a meteorite and that’s something heroic a legendary pokemon would do.

    • @robertoriveragierbolini7068
      @robertoriveragierbolini7068 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Sun and Moon: *Dimension Hopping*
      This is fine.

    • @Splatoob
      @Splatoob 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just a casual day at the office

  • @yoboikaydenyt3893
    @yoboikaydenyt3893 3 ปีที่แล้ว +108

    "It is possible that the galarian birds are just seprate and got their names because of the resemblance"
    Thats exactly what it is

    • @TomasM30
      @TomasM30 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Didn't he say himself before that they aren't the same and the galarian birds are completely different

    • @insanitycrafter8553
      @insanitycrafter8553 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I thought it was official in the pokedex.

    • @BearWith_You
      @BearWith_You 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Dex entries state how they got their name. That's it. If you name a Spot and I name a dog Spot, that looks similar to your Spot, it could be the same breed of dog, that's how genetics work. They could be brothers. But if they AREN'T the same species, than what makes every other regional form the same species? Especially when Kantonian Meowth can't become Purrserker. And Kantonian Mr Mime can't become Mr Rime. I look at it that maybe these birds came to Galar and changed like any other regional variant. Maybe they were granted new forms from those berries. Then humans found them, and may not of heard of the Kantonian ones, also came up with the names

    • @adrianmcbride1666
      @adrianmcbride1666 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BearWith_You common ancestry but innabbility to interbreed usually means seperate species.

    • @cocomon3403
      @cocomon3403 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The pokedex says they are different

  • @cav3sp1d3rgam1ng
    @cav3sp1d3rgam1ng ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The birds are legendaries because the Let’s GO games are not canon, they’re Kanto games but there are dark and steel types, and you get access to Alolan Variants which is BS. The birds are legendary my theory is a while back, they were very common, but they got into a great battle with only one of each species of bird survived. Lugia grants the birds immortality, like Ho-Oh did with the beats, but there were 3 more alive again one of each. The 3 who didn’t get immortality dont know about the other 3, and they hide in Galar eventually adapting. Zapdos lives in the wild area, and needs to defend itself, so it becomes fighting. It hides in bushes, and loses the ability to fly after sticking to the ground so flying taxis don’t spot it. Moltres moved to the Isle of Armor, and adapts to be darker to hide in its surroundings, gaining the dark type. Last but not least Articuno moves to the Crown Tundra since it has lots of snow, but trainers there use fire types to keep warm, and beat wild ice types so Articuno becomes a psychic type, and turns into a darker shade like Moltres did.

  • @zacdixon-fleming2173
    @zacdixon-fleming2173 3 ปีที่แล้ว +135

    Pokémon: is about to be legendary
    Amateur bird watchers: hello there

    • @slevinchannel7589
      @slevinchannel7589 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Any Idiot knows how to fix most of Gamefreaks Problems.
      They dont even put as much money as they should into this Important Franchise of theirs,
      so even the most simple ideas like "Put more money into it" will work.
      Let alone stuff a 6-Years old can think up.
      Let alone stuff a 10-Years old can think up.
      Tutorial-Skip for example? 20 Years ago, games had these already.
      Way to go, Gamefreak.
      Not gifting Legendarys, not making them worthless and uninteresting? Yeah,
      dont defend it: It's objectively a fact that Little Kids know this is not right to do.
      I even have prove, cause i have seen 6-Years old literally say this - and no, i did not bias them
      beforehand. Nope.

    • @Hmmm777
      @Hmmm777 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Obi wan kenobi?

    • @wiskful1558
      @wiskful1558 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@slevinchannel7589 What are you going on about

    • @dyjhjfrtt6607
      @dyjhjfrtt6607 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bonjour

    • @theatomicbob9067
      @theatomicbob9067 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wiskful1558 A lot of what Gamefreak does is stupid.

  • @riol2_
    @riol2_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +515

    In my opinion, the battle frontier should not count. I don’t think that they are canonical appearances, just there for cooler battles and game balance.

    • @zeroglitch1310
      @zeroglitch1310 3 ปีที่แล้ว +68

      Yeah, he mentioned that legends like Ho-oh or Lugia appearing in games like Ultra Sun and Moon is more for the players enjoyment and accessibility to them, then actual lore. That's how I feel about the battle frontier and such. It's a cool place to do after the main game. But should not be considered canonical to the story of the videogames. It's just for the player.

    • @slevinchannel7589
      @slevinchannel7589 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Any Idiot knows how to fix most of Gamefreaks Problems.
      They dont even put as much money as they should into this Important Franchise of theirs,
      so even the most simple ideas like "Put more money into it" will work.
      Let alone stuff a 6-Years old can think up.
      Let alone stuff a 10-Years old can think up.
      Tutorial-Skip for example? 20 Years ago, games had these already.
      Way to go, Gamefreak.
      Not gifting Legendarys, not making them worthless and uninteresting? Yeah,
      dont defend it: It's objectively a fact that Little Kids know this is not right to do.
      I even have prove, cause i have seen 6-Years old literally say this - and no, i did not bias them
      beforehand. Nope.

    • @zeroglitch1310
      @zeroglitch1310 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      @@slevinchannel7589 chill.
      This is at its core. A kids game. And not a directly owned product of Nintendo. It is Game Freak and the Pokemon company. But Nintendo can't shower it with money like they could Metroid or Mario. (One could argue the Metroid point is bad because Metroid Prime 4 but I digress.)
      This video isn't a debate on fixing Pokemon. But I think Michael has a video about that somewhere.

    • @slevinchannel7589
      @slevinchannel7589 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@zeroglitch1310 It's naive to say about this whole subject 'Its just a kids game'.
      It's about people's life already, that's how big it is.
      People live on it.
      Fans pay money for it.
      And whatnot else.

    • @MagicalBread
      @MagicalBread 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@slevinchannel7589 you still need to chill out though. You’re taking this way to seriously.

  • @ternodons3090
    @ternodons3090 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Maybe the difference between legends and sub-legends is the sub-legends are the non-box art legends (Legendary birds, beasts, etc.) and legends are the box art legends (Ho-oh/Lugia, Palkia and Dialga, etc.)

  • @Gem-wi4lm
    @Gem-wi4lm 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You can even find a Cosmog/Neby in Galar, in an npc's house

  • @Kalebed
    @Kalebed 3 ปีที่แล้ว +349

    Zygarde: Has 99 siblings.
    Michael: You are a Legend.

    • @claine89
      @claine89 3 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      They are one of a whole though. Zygarde Cell isn't technically considered a Pokemon.

    • @Runedrace
      @Runedrace 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@claine89
      there are 5 zygarde cores though and the cores think differently if you go by what the anime showed us.
      while the 5 cores in the sun moon game only teaches zygarde special moves and help make power construct zygarde

    • @erikkesler5234
      @erikkesler5234 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      @@Runedrace Anime doesn't count and also they are still parts of one true whole

    • @atommidas2002
      @atommidas2002 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Let’s just talk about the legendary on your profile pic icy wind

    • @Kalebed
      @Kalebed 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@atommidas2002 Haha yes! Vanilluxe is the best legend, It's strong and unique!

  • @Ace-in8qr
    @Ace-in8qr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +165

    I feel like there's a running theme in regards to Pokemon not being unique, and that's the Battle Frontier. I feel like for the Regis and the Lake Trio, their lore insinuates that there's only one of each. That's why I definitely think the battle frontier teams are exclusively there for gameplay purposes and are non-canonical. Also let's consider the fact that it doesn't make any sense for there to be multiple copies of the Lake Trio and the Regis. Especially Regigigas.

    • @KyogresHideout_Vegito2121
      @KyogresHideout_Vegito2121 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Exactly

    • @runiqe
      @runiqe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Okay, the prume Regi example:
      Og regies: not legendary
      Weather trio: three buff dudes who fly and can control weather (Rain Dance, Sandstorm, and Sunny Day exist) are, of course, legendary

    • @Fernandanatac
      @Fernandanatac 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      I can accept that all the Regis beside Regigigas are not legendary, just rare. I can imagine Regigigas creating multiple of them across the eras.
      But Regigigas should be unique.
      The Lake Trio also should be unique, 100% agree with you.

    • @courtney4919
      @courtney4919 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      The thing is, there a lot of things that exist solely for gameplay but don't make sense, lore-wise (starting with 'hi i'm a 10 yo from an irrelevant town and I captured the God of Time, Space, Antimattier, Land, Sea, Sky and the creator of universe in balls that now obey to me and battle against Youngsters and their Rattatas under my orders just like that random Zigzagoon I got solely for the Pokedex and fill my team on route 1 used to do! :)'). So I definitely agree with this.

    • @FlamezOFate
      @FlamezOFate 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I think it makes sense for there to be multiple regis with the exception of regigigas since he's the creator- after all the regular regis have their own caves and rooms dedicated to them multiple regions like hoenn, unova, and now in galar

  • @EJthemad7174
    @EJthemad7174 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Actually, regarding every "non-legendary" from Sinnoh, there was only one of each in Legends Arceus. So the ones in the Battle Frontier were probably brought over from another region.

    • @shardtheduraludon
      @shardtheduraludon 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well this video was made *before* PLA came out so…

    • @EJthemad7174
      @EJthemad7174 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@shardtheduraludon 🤓

  • @hyun-shik7327
    @hyun-shik7327 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This really puts a "you captured an endangered species and used it for your own enjoyment" spin on things.

  • @OthEdden
    @OthEdden 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1114

    Theory: the battle factory uses dittos to make it's rentals. They are just pre-transforming them to what was ordered. Argenta is rich and has influence so can rent whatever she wants.This includes research grants to Pokemon professors, data from Bill's box system and Slyphco's pokeball technology

    • @MysteriousMagick
      @MysteriousMagick 2 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      yes. so they get the exact pokemon and force the dittos to transform.

    • @Mas-cm6cy
      @Mas-cm6cy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      you know, that makes a lot of sense

    • @tesladrew2608
      @tesladrew2608 2 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      It IS called a factory

    • @harrisonschannelofeverythi6229
      @harrisonschannelofeverythi6229 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Everything he's saying is true

    • @ocemagnus6553
      @ocemagnus6553 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@harrisonschannelofeverythi6229 nope

  • @anthonytv7311
    @anthonytv7311 3 ปีที่แล้ว +321

    "Not Articuno" Thumbnail Twice in a row....
    .
    My Brain: "Not ArticDos"

    • @anthonytv7311
      @anthonytv7311 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ArticTres

    • @camazimi8591
      @camazimi8591 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@anthonytv7311 lol

    • @camazimi8591
      @camazimi8591 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@anthonytv7311 Articquanto

    • @AlphaDumb
      @AlphaDumb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@anthonytv7311 Articinco

    • @AxoLunar
      @AxoLunar 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That lost pun

  • @senseironingaming6074
    @senseironingaming6074 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Battle Frontier should not be counted here , it’s just a post game challenge

  • @kailenosborn3524
    @kailenosborn3524 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    fun fact: the 3 type: nulls have already been shown in game:
    1. with gladion
    2. sun and moon player
    3. sword and shield player

  • @jameshoppe1417
    @jameshoppe1417 3 ปีที่แล้ว +127

    There is a Birdkeeper who mentions three illusionary birds in Gen 1 and that he bets they're birds of prey. Also according to Entei's Pokedex entry from Gen 2 a new Entei born when a new volcano is created. So in that case more than 1 Entei is likely to exist

    • @jeremycocciolone9223
      @jeremycocciolone9223 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Id say the entei case is reincarnation. As if how Ho-oh gives them the immortality. Should an Entei die, a volcano is just created and an entei is shot out?

    • @julianzarco6403
      @julianzarco6403 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      But it's the Pokédex, the same one that says that Gardevoir creates black holes and that Magcargo is hotter than the damn sun. So I wouldn't pay much attention to the Dex

    • @antagonistdan95
      @antagonistdan95 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      His reasoning for why the 3 beasts are legends makes no sense. Where the Battle Frontier is located has no connection to whether or not there are more than 1. If there's 1 in Johto and 1 in Sinnoh there's still multiple of them, making them not legendary.

    • @ipacklunches
      @ipacklunches 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@julianzarco6403 The black hole thing could be Gardevoir using Shadow Ball and who recorded the info is just slightly incompetent
      Edit. Just realized that pretty much furthers proves your point lol

    • @moxie7650
      @moxie7650 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@antagonistdan95 Then none are legendary because every legendary is in the crown tundra and usum

  • @WebbedManiac
    @WebbedManiac 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Honestly, I wouldn't count stuff like Battle Frontier, and just limit the criteria to main story + post-game story which is canonical. Although I do agree that Pokémon's legendary and mythical classifications are messed up in general. There are some things I'd like to add.
    1) Cresselia should be classified as a mythical because it is Darkrai's counterpart. It and Darkrai are a pair. It makes no sense to me that one Pokémon in a pair is a mythical, while the other which specifically counters it is not.
    2) Similarly, I hope the games establish a connection between Lugia and the Kanto birds just like the movie did. My logic being that Ho-Oh and Lugia are counterparts, and as I said, counterparts should get equal treatment. It makes no sense that Ho-Oh gets three subordinates while Lugia gets the short end of the stick.

  • @tscream80
    @tscream80 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    MandJ: "There's a [third] Type: Null out there somewhere.
    Those who've played Sword & Shield: "Yeah, it apparently ended up in Galar..."

  • @tribalewok2485
    @tribalewok2485 3 ปีที่แล้ว +187

    You're forgetting Fire Red's Entai dex entry "A Pokémon that races across the land. It is said that one is born every time a new volcano appears." A new one every time a volcano appears? Sounds like there's a good chance there is more than one

    • @ElHarmonyV
      @ElHarmonyV 3 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      I wouldn't put too much faith in Pokedex entries considering it states that Magcargo is hotter than the surface of the sun, Shedinja stealing your soul if you look at it's back (which you always do when you have one in battle), Gardevoir creating black holes, etc.

    • @tribalewok2485
      @tribalewok2485 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@ElHarmonyV True, but they ARE considered lore

    • @notvex3987
      @notvex3987 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@tribalewok2485 yeah.
      But tbh i dont think most pokedex entries should count
      Otherwise everyone on earth would be fucking dead

    • @prasannabhat1997
      @prasannabhat1997 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@tribalewok2485 Pokedex data is written by 10 year old children so that is not always accurate

    • @KGuy00700
      @KGuy00700 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It means that they are like one time use teleportation spots pretty much entei could be like I wanna be in alola and boom! he disappears and alola gets their volcano and entei come sprouting out like a shooting star!

  • @nikoashgallala2271
    @nikoashgallala2271 3 ปีที่แล้ว +195

    My main way to go to tell if it's a legendary is: "Is this pokemon immortal?"

    • @skaionex
      @skaionex 3 ปีที่แล้ว +75

      Ash is legendary confirmed

    • @silverdemon1530
      @silverdemon1530 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@skaionex fax👏

    • @zarnox3071
      @zarnox3071 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      I'd base my definition on how notable they are in their society, such as if a member of their species has done something in the past that made people regard it as a being of legend? If they are literally spoken of in legends and myths, they are fitting of the title.
      But really that's all it is: just a title. They're living creatures just like any other pokémon (or human). They may be stronger, or have strange abilities, but they are just as much a part of the ecosystem as any other creature.

  • @invertedLOL
    @invertedLOL 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Paldea:
    Koraidon, Miraidon and the other paradox pokemon don’t count
    The chaos quartet or whatever does count
    Don’t know if anyone thinks this but Gholdengo definitely doesn’t count
    Ogerpon does count
    The loyal three do count
    Terapagos counts
    I think pecharunt is mythical so he doesn’t count

  • @solstice_soda701
    @solstice_soda701 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    My personal identification of legendary pokemon is whether they personify some kind or natural power or greater concept since they're basically stand-ins for gods. It's incredibly subjective and can be debated for hours, but also incredibly fun. Like Arceus, Palkia, Dialga, and Giratina are time/space creation/ destruction. If Crescelia is a legendary then Darkrai is too, they're counterparts, do not separate.

  • @detrilogue3174
    @detrilogue3174 3 ปีที่แล้ว +166

    “Poipole is a starter Pokémon” was *not* what I expected to hear going into this.

    • @sparkyplayz8578
      @sparkyplayz8578 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      no its not

    • @Yitewewoteli-dQw4w9WgXcQ
      @Yitewewoteli-dQw4w9WgXcQ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@sparkyplayz8578 It is. In it's home world, it's used as a starter. It says that in one of its pokedex entries.

    • @jami_holmes
      @jami_holmes 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @ detrilogue
      It says it’s a optional Pokémon from the sword & shield games

  • @markhurlbut8772
    @markhurlbut8772 3 ปีที่แล้ว +191

    “That’s not lore or backstory.... That’s just amateur Bird watching.” - Quotes Mikey 2020
    Mikey 10 minutes later........ “ Oh there was a red or blue Pokemon spotted.... Which is amateur bird watching!” - More quotes Mikey, 2020

    • @itz_creativeangel1993
      @itz_creativeangel1993 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I readed this during that moments :o

    • @jarl_jake2329
      @jarl_jake2329 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yea, it doesn’t make sense that Regigigas can be the creator of the Regi’s, and theres more than one of him.

    • @markhurlbut8772
      @markhurlbut8772 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jarl_jake2329 ikr

    • @Ucatty2
      @Ucatty2 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jarl_jake2329 It takes two humans to make another one. Maybe The Regigigai(?) have to be a team to make more Regi's of different types.

    • @jarl_jake2329
      @jarl_jake2329 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ucatty2 Well all the regi’s are genderless so breeding wouldn’t really work. Also theres no mention of it taking two regigigis’s to make the regi’s in any lore. I think its easier to dismiss the battle frontier as non cannon than to create new backstory for the regi’s to justify them appearing there.

  • @JCDragon2819
    @JCDragon2819 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    9:26 We should take Bikini Bottom and push it somewhere else!

  • @Elite4koga
    @Elite4koga 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    6:20 on some binoculars on a gate even after you have catched all of them in all kanto games the binoculars show that theres a legendary bird flying outside

  • @jahdeel
    @jahdeel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +275

    Fun fact : The third Type Null is in the Battle Tower of Galar.

    • @randomaccount2880
      @randomaccount2880 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      I bet the chairman went to the alola for a vacation and then brought it back to galar to just give it to a random trainer.

    • @sincere3712
      @sincere3712 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      No Macro Cosmos copied Aether Foundation stuff and made a new one

    • @Gojifan-
      @Gojifan- 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      That’s the type null I have in my box right now

    • @donbeedrill
      @donbeedrill 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@sincere3712 more corporate espionage

    • @MPhussarW
      @MPhussarW 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah it's pretty fun being trapped in a tiny ball and only seeing day when they have to fight to the death and being sent to the hospital 20 times a day

  • @theskagking8268
    @theskagking8268 3 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    I just wanted to share when Micheal started talking about the regi's and how they're rental Pokemon I thought what if when the player got their regi they unlocked a tomb far away that just had thousands of them lined up like clay soldiers and when the player caught the one that the player found, they ended up awakening them all and that thought alone was too cool not to share.

    • @kilo3989
      @kilo3989 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Ooh, that'd be rad!

    • @tarkus1056
      @tarkus1056 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Maybe there are thousands dormant and every time a Regi is caught or escapes from its cave another one is awakened to fill its spot.

    • @kerrywien6775
      @kerrywien6775 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I love calyrex and calyrex is an amazing pokemon and calyrex is a majestic rabbit jackrabbit pokemon but tbh, calyrex looks more like a mythical pokemon rather than a legendary pokemon due to its role as a king pokemon and it’s design and even more, calyrex shares a same typing in psychic/grass with another mythical pokemon and
      calyrex possesses the time travel/ability to see the past, present and future similar with another mythical pokemon that is the same typing with calyrex, calyrex is obviously planned to be a mythical pokemon, but was made a legendary pokemon instead to add more legendaries in the DLC. And calyrex is among the best legendary pokemons. Like, calyrex is a overpowered pokemon once calyrex is fused with his steeds, you need to run for your life because calyrex will have you & your pokemons for breakfast.

  • @Futt_Buckers
    @Futt_Buckers หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This video aged interestingly with Gen 9 introducing Paradox forms. Both for the Beasts and the Swords, but also for the version mascots. They’re technically just hyper ancient or hyper futuristic Cyclizards, which are totally mundane.

  • @TheLobsterCopter5000
    @TheLobsterCopter5000 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The birds would definitely qualify as legendaries in Mystery Dungeon Blue/Red Rescue Team. I'm guessing you don't count spinoffs though.

  • @colinhobbs7265
    @colinhobbs7265 2 ปีที่แล้ว +632

    I've always seen the battle frontiers as being non-canon, or at least a game/simulation. The fact that pokemon are artificially locked to a certain max level and don't gain xp locks it away as something other than the "real world" part of the game in my eyes

    • @XxSpyroKetchumxX
      @XxSpyroKetchumxX 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      I think the battle frontier just serves as the equivalent of secret bosses from other games that don’t follow the same rules as main story.

    • @Lefom
      @Lefom ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Battle frontiers are definitely not canon, it's just a post game area for tougher fights and an extra challenge, If u stop playing before it u don't miss any plot

    • @Arkx919
      @Arkx919 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@Lefom That makes them optional, not non-canon. Canonicity means they exist in-universe, and those facilities definitely exist in-universe as evidenced by us meeting people like Caitlin and Anabel outside of said facilities.

    • @Lefom
      @Lefom ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@Arkx919 The battle frontier makes the pokémon league a joke, the legendary pokémon a joke, the lore itself a mess. It's a place where there are more than hundred trainers stronger than the Champion, and a lot of them got legendary pkm that are unique in the lore, like Raikou/Entei/Suicune, that in my eyes exists only one of each, since the burned tower event and Ho-Oh reviving them happened once and they can't breed. OFC they put some little plot there, like Palmer being Barry's father, but the place itself makes no sense with the rest of the lore

    • @henrikswanstrom9218
      @henrikswanstrom9218 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Battle frontier and the battle tower has nothing to do with the lore or story of the games.
      They're just there for competetive players who enjoy battling.
      What's going on there is in its own universe. Random trainers that are far stronger than the Elite4 or Pokemon league champions et.c.
      The reason trainers in the frontier have legendery pokemon is because legendary pokemon are strong and they're supposed to be a challenge.
      No other reason.

  • @dr.trousers6101
    @dr.trousers6101 3 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    “How do you have two identical things, in two different places”
    Good design baby. They got the right engineers and contractors in

    • @robertlupa8273
      @robertlupa8273 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      What about the people in there? Cloning?

    • @randalldutton7824
      @randalldutton7824 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@robertlupa8273 Actors that's how. Ok not really, but that would be hilarious. More likely they just move locations occasionally, and you just happen opon them while at the specific locations you go to.

    • @dr.trousers6101
      @dr.trousers6101 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@robertlupa8273 just a bunch of Dittos g. Easy fix

  • @garrettsmith6102
    @garrettsmith6102 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I also think that Enamoras isn't legendary due to it not having too much lore. It just signifies that spring is coming and loves Hisui.

  • @garrettsmith6102
    @garrettsmith6102 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    According to these criteria, that means that Koraidon and Miraidon are not legendary because you can catch two of each! Meanwhile, the Ruinous Quartet are because they are strong, have a good backstory, and there's only one of each. And I think that means that Ogerpon and the Loyal Three are legendaries as well. They are all strong, they share a good backstory, and there seems to be only one (there might be more Ogerpons but we have no evidence for that). And I think that Terapagos is also legendary with it being strong, having the lore from that page in the Scarlet/Violet book and the time travel thing and creating the terrastal phenomenon, and there's only one.

  • @albertwheeler7627
    @albertwheeler7627 3 ปีที่แล้ว +623

    I wish "amateur bird watching" became a meme for this channel

    • @swidball_yt2191
      @swidball_yt2191 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Amateur meme spotting

    • @Sage_Of_Death
      @Sage_Of_Death 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Albert Wheeler used wish .

    • @38Jemar
      @38Jemar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh, how right you are... 🤔

    • @kerrywien6775
      @kerrywien6775 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have a fun fact for You:I 💯% believe that
      necrozma is a dragon 🐉 and its base form has a torso of a dragon’s head 🐉 and that’s why its torso predicts the ultra burst 💥 form of ultra necrozma but necrozma should’ve been a dragon type in all of its forms because it is the third legendary pokemon of generation 7 and every single third legendary pokemon is a dragon 🐉 type in all of their forms except for regular necrozma but once again, regular form necrozma is a dragon 🐉 but just the dragon’s head and torso and why it’s still pure psychic type until necrozma has enough light to return to its original form and becomes the original dragon 🐉 of light 💡 ultra necrozma. This to me makes necrozma my favorite dragon 🐉 type pokemon and yes, necrozma is a dragon 🐉. I also like how necrozma gave light 💡 to alola and creates the islands of alola and ultra necrozma has a cool badass design and it’s easily one of my favorite dragon 🐉 type pokemons and I also love how ultra necrozma saves poipole and poipole’s world from a meteorite and that’s something heroic a legendary pokemon would do.

    • @helloworld-od3im
      @helloworld-od3im 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@kerrywien6775 too much emogis: lie

  • @adityashrungarpure9778
    @adityashrungarpure9778 3 ปีที่แล้ว +143

    Zapdos, Articuno and Moltres: KNEEL IN FRONT OF US!!!
    Michael: Yeah about that...