💎Want to buy your own faceting machine? We currently recommend an UltraTec faceting machine! If you do end up buying, don't forget to let them know that Steve Moriarty sent you and we'll ship you a piece of rough that should cut a $200 - $300 stone when finished! **In order to qualify for the free piece of rough, when you order, be sure to include a note (there is a section for this when ordering), send them an email, or give them a call stating that you bought the machine on Steve Moriarty's recommendation. After that, email us the proof of purchase and once we confirm your order with them, we'll send you the free piece of rough! 1. Buy Your Machine Here: www.ultratec-facet.com/product/v5-digital/ 2. Let them know you bought on Steve Moriarty's Recommendation 3. Email us at Sales@MoreGems.com and show us proof of purchase. 4. We'll Confirm your order with Ultratec and when we receive credit, we'll send you a piece of rough! **This offer is for a limited time only! Buy your machine Today!
All the time he was coming down on that stone with the exacto knife trying to get that darn epoxy off - I'm gritting my teeth. So what did they do to hold the stone in the dop BEFORE the invention of chemical glues like epoxy? Epoxy is some serious s..... stuff.
some how by looking at that formidable vault door in the back ground,that tells me you are not a hobby farmer when it comes to cutting gems and selling them.i really like these vids.what you are doing and the results you get is another blessing of having the ability to see as the gems are beautiful.no matter where you are in the world,i especially like the link between a beautifully ground gem stone and women removing their clothing:-) thanks for the great vids as they are A++..
Steve - Thank you for taking the time to put together this series. I watched your video on cutting the "Quarter Pounder" Arkansas quartz about 6 months ago and was hooked. Your videos really help answer many of my questions generated using an old Lees Faceter (saving up for a Facetron) and I look forwards to whatever you have to teach us next. Jae
These videos got me interested into a new hobby or possibly career. Just wowza bit expensive to get started! Think I'll start prospecting gems and gold then look into faceting gems.
Hi Steve, I spoken to a few Australian faceters and the like to polish the girdle first. I agree, I find polishing the girdle very difficult. And yes, as a beginner the polishing takes some getting used to...thanks for the video. Cliff
just stumbled on this series as ive just got bit by the potential gem cutting bug, "lost 100ct tanzenite.." me: *googles cost of tanzenite* ... *Heart sinks....* great series !!
+Gaia Gemstones The attack can only shows that it has a hazardous component methylene cloride. Not sure if there is anything else in it. The batt lap is a harder tin alloy. Tin by itself is very soft and not recommended. Not sure what you mean "clear lap". Leather may work on ruby and sapphire cabochons if you use diamond but I have never tried.
I have a polishing sugestion, which you requested at approximately 9:22 in this video. I suggest you try useing less Cerium Oxide. If too much is applied it can act as a lubricant. Thank you very much for making these videos!
thank you for the excellent videos !..a work in themselves and excellently done !...my interest is technical rather than artistic however, many of my questions have been answered : )
Thank you - this was very fascinating - I have so many questions about your life experiences - how you got into this - how and what training you had etc. You seem like a cool guy.
Here is a link to a brief interview I did with an online publication that discusses some of these things. If you're interested you can read it here: voyagechicago.com/interview/meet-steve-moriarty-moriartys-gem-art-northwest-indiana-suberb-chicago/
As you move from shaping to polishing, do you need to change to a different cleaning cloth in case the cloth used for shaping has picked up abrasive particles from the stone, or is that not an issue?
Great series Steve, thank you for a nicely put together set of videos. I had a question about the polish step here: Why did you need to cheat the angle for the polish step; I understand why it was needed to correct for a polish that was offset deeper to one side but why did this happen in the first place? Did the dop stick get removed and reinserted into the quill to create this "twist"? Or is it just the machine going out of alignment? It seems like the two videos were filmed back to back so I'm surprised of this issue when the facet seems like it was *just* cut at that very angle.
Its not unusual to have to cheat as the machines are not perfect and different laps can cause the need to cheat as they also are not perfect. Different pressures on the dop or stone can cause angle and rotation changes. So I am not sure why but when you are cutting it is easy to see that you need to cheat. Thanks for watching if you have other questions let us know.
Have you ever considered using bluing ink or dye to see what you're taking off for the polishing process? Or would this just not be a good idea and unnecessary?
Thank you so much. If I have one big rough stone and I want to cut it into small stones like 1,3 mm for example, how should I cut it? Do I need to cut it to tiny slices first and then to cut the slices to 1,5 mm square pieces? And what kind of machine do I need to make the slices?
I have never cut small stones like this. You will want a saw and very thin saw blades. A blade less than .012. I believe I used to use a .004 but it needs to be small diameter when this thin. A high tech saw with a 4-5 inch blade is a possible combo it the rough is not large.
@@Moregems it was just un idea, I don’t know exactly how small stones should be done from a big stone. Maybe it is just a waste of material and it is best to start right away with a small rough stone.
You could hear the thing causing the scratching. It made distinctive sounds, when you hit the right spot it was a smooth sound. When you moved back it was clunky. You could see in your face after both that the spot was good or bad...
Thank you for the tutorial! Very useful especially since I'm using learning with epoxy. (Importing issues!) 1. The Epoxy Removal fluid may have a trade name of "Attack" in your region; what is the composition of the fluid? 2. I'd be grateful for an explanation on the Tin lap and "a clear lap" used for rubies (semi-gem) and sapphires (semi-gem) for cabochons. 3. :-) Would a leather lap be used?
Today I had a thought as to how gems are cut and finished. Your videos did exactly that! Thanks so much for taking the time. I do have a question for you. On your machine, I noticed when setting the degree angle (eg. 44.1 degrees) you are not pressing on the shaft. Wouldn't this change the actual angle once pressing down? Thanks in advance!
thank you so much for sharing this video ,i have a question .if you do not mind ,i think pear shape cutting is harder then round or square shape. my question is that small size gem is easy to facet in pear shape based on the diagram, but the large size of gem stone is hard to facet in pear shape based on the diagram, what should I do? change the angle of the diagram or do something else? please..Thanks
+MoreGems.com hello, thanks for responding, when you are cutting a small pear shaped stone relative to a bigger pear shaped stone do you still use the same diagram numbers or angles as you would cutting a larger pear shaped stone. when i am cutting a bigger pear shaped stone and when i get to the top sides ill end up having issues with it, i hope that made more since, is the issue from angles or the diagram numbers?
+matt kermani Its not the size, it is the length to width ratio that determines the angles you have to cut. The longer the length the deeper you need to cut the gem so you can get a good angle at the tip. You often need a completely different design for different ratios. Long and Steele designs are set up for different ratios. 1.20-1.30-1.50-1.70. The ratio is the length divided by the width.
Steve, Thanks so much for this series. I have been faceting for a few years now when my regular job doesn't get in the way. I have similar difficulties when i polish with Cerium Oxide and some times it is extremely frustrating. Your video shows me that i am not the only one that has those problems. The question that i have is do you always use distilled water and what brand name Cerium do you use, I use Super Cerium. Thanks Rick
I don't generally use distilled water, we just use good quality tap water. The cerium we are using is the same as you, Super Cerium. It seems like it is always a problem... we just try cleaning the lap off, cutting in a different direction, or using another area on the lap.
But i like that machine you use and for carbanados you have to have it at high rpm they are tough but easy to learn on cause you cant eat it away fast as regular gems even if the discs are new lol thanks for your videos i realky enjoy them
Hi Steve. I have come into possession of an old machine that doesn't have a dial on it. Not sure about the make yet as it is still in transit. Is this going to make cutting a great deal harder, not having the dial?
Steve, Q.1.do you have any nightmare stories from your decades of doing this where you messed up or got tripped up by a surprise in the stone? Q.2. Is this cut & polish you did on the Citrine what should be expected of mainstream jewelry stores?(I've seen some really poorly cut/polished stones online) or is this more the quality for the custom or high end buyer?
Many but you get to expect this and you move on to the next stone as you know most will be great gems. When I started cutting Ethiopian opal it literally kept me up a night. My wife told me to quit cutting them. The issue was that one in three were cracking and many were the next day after the work was done. Fortunately I persisted and learned how to deal with this material. I am down to about 1 in 10 cracking and I can accept this as it is the nature of this opal. If they don’t crack in a day or two they will not crack. You should always look for fine cutting as it makes a huge difference in the look and sparkle in the gem. You are right most gems are poorly cut.
This video may help you... We're cutting opal, but it shows you how to cab a gemstone. Let us know if this was what you're looking for or if you have any other questions. th-cam.com/video/UGOR_0LmF_4/w-d-xo.html
I am confused why he didn't cut the entire gem and then polish the Pavilion. Was it because of the epoxy that he uses to hold it to the stick? Sorry, I forgot the name of the arms that he glues to the gems. Ohhh maybe it is because once he detaches the gem from the stick it will be hard to get it in the exact spot again? Is this why?
+Robert like You can try gravescompany.com - They normally sell to dealers only, but they say if there is not a dealer near you they may possibly send it direct to you. It's about $7.50 for the refractol immersion liquid. I would try contacting them.
Yes, Steve has used the edge of the lap in the past, as well as a dremel. He said you can cut the basic pattern of a heart shape, then add in the notch after. It's difficult to explain, but can be done.
dear Mr. Mariarty I have a problem with pricing the rough stones, I'm buying red garnets, tourmaline ( green hues) and sapphire. sizes are small range 1and 2 grams per piece with no visible cracks will you please guide me how to price them ? Mohamed.h.amer@gmail.com
If I am cutting the crown and it will be going in “attack” solvent I glue between the dop and the stone. Also if it is a stone that can take heat, Aqua, sapphire, zircon and others I will put glue between the stone and the dop for a more secure bond.
I use a china machine and its alot easier you do 3 steps only cut shape facet but you cut and shape with 100 grit then you move 1000 on th cut and shape the 3k then the faucets you cut polish all at once so you dont have to set back you do it all for instantce your a 45 you cut the 45 faucets polish the 45 faucets with 100 change the disc to 1k then change to the 3k on the same faucets then if you cut more then you repeat like if you move to 45 or 50 the same way it stays accurate that way no oh it moved this way that way the faucets get all cut polished the same way evry time dont have to even look in a lopp no problems i can do a gem in an hour no matter the size or gem and my machine stays at 1500 rpm every time even in the polish just 3k too the polish i can cut any gem as long as the gem fits length wize on an 8 inch thats as big as i can cut a gem or facet with no problems i learned my self and i did the process this way to do gems fast and accurate and no scratches the onnly thing i have trouble with is the table cause i need to come out with a jig that will keep the table at a slant cause i burly reaches if i make the jig than any one can faucet with my machine
Steve did, he used to just cut then sell his goods on the road to jewelers or at trade shows. He later opened a retail store where we cut the stones, custom design the mountings, and manufacture the jewelry all in house. You can visit our website at www.MoreGems.com or our retail store in Crown Point, IN. It just depends on the time and effort that you want to put into it.
💎Want to buy your own faceting machine? We currently recommend an UltraTec faceting machine! If you do end up buying, don't forget to let them know that Steve Moriarty sent you and we'll ship you a piece of rough that should cut a $200 - $300 stone when finished!
**In order to qualify for the free piece of rough, when you order, be sure to include a note (there is a section for this when ordering), send them an email, or give them a call stating that you bought the machine on Steve Moriarty's recommendation. After that, email us the proof of purchase and once we confirm your order with them, we'll send you the free piece of rough!
1. Buy Your Machine Here: www.ultratec-facet.com/product/v5-digital/
2. Let them know you bought on Steve Moriarty's Recommendation
3. Email us at Sales@MoreGems.com and show us proof of purchase.
4. We'll Confirm your order with Ultratec and when we receive credit, we'll send you a piece of rough!
**This offer is for a limited time only! Buy your machine Today!
I know for sure this is the career i want to do. its so amazing. Working towards my Jet 1. you are also now a tutor for me. Thanks Steve.
Let us know if you have any questions!
Slim Z Williams i’d love to get into a career like this. Im still young and have time to choose but this is something that fascinates me
I hope you guys realize you need the patience of Job.........!
@@peridoty7149 facit-bate
Thanks!☺ I must say I was holding my breath as you knifed about the original wax dop.
That is one of the prettiest colored Citrine I have seen!
All the time he was coming down on that stone with the exacto knife trying to get that darn epoxy off - I'm gritting my teeth. So what did they do to hold the stone in the dop BEFORE the invention of chemical glues like epoxy? Epoxy is some serious s..... stuff.
I really like this video series. Thanks!
It's crazy how much goes into cutting & polishing, the math, angles, measurements etc.
some how by looking at that formidable vault door in the back ground,that tells me you are not a hobby farmer when it comes to cutting gems and selling them.i really like these vids.what you are doing and the results you get is another blessing of having the ability to see as the gems are beautiful.no matter where you are in the world,i especially like the link between a beautifully ground gem stone and women removing their clothing:-) thanks for the great vids as they are A++..
Steve - Thank you for taking the time to put together this series. I watched your video on cutting the "Quarter Pounder" Arkansas quartz about 6 months ago and was hooked. Your videos really help answer many of my questions generated using an old Lees Faceter (saving up for a Facetron) and I look forwards to whatever you have to teach us next. Jae
+bullseyek Thanks for watching! More to come soon!
These videos got me interested into a new hobby or possibly career. Just wowza bit expensive to get started! Think I'll start prospecting gems and gold then look into faceting gems.
Thanks for watching! Hey, sounds like a good plan to me! We'll be here if you have any questions!
Hi Steve, I spoken to a few Australian faceters and the like to polish the girdle first. I agree, I find polishing the girdle very difficult. And yes, as a beginner the polishing takes some getting used to...thanks for the video. Cliff
just stumbled on this series as ive just got bit by the potential gem cutting bug, "lost 100ct tanzenite.." me: *googles cost of tanzenite* ... *Heart sinks....*
great series !!
+Gaia Gemstones The attack can only shows that it has a hazardous
component methylene cloride. Not sure if there is anything else in it.
The batt lap is a harder tin alloy. Tin by itself is very soft and not
recommended. Not sure what you mean "clear lap".
Leather may work on ruby and sapphire cabochons if you use diamond but I have never tried.
Great to watch a professional work thank you I am currently in training and have learned a lot Steve thank you .Brian.
I’m loving these videos, I never new the full process of cutting stones. Great 👍
Good video full of tips...and not irritating at all like some videos I've seen...I know I'll watch it twice...
thanks, am going on that site just now to have a wee look , keep up the good work my friend and I am looking forward to the end result.
A true legend in the craft!
cant wait to see the finished stone Steve !
I have a polishing sugestion, which you requested at approximately 9:22 in this video. I suggest you try useing less Cerium Oxide. If too much is applied it can act as a lubricant. Thank you very much for making these videos!
Your right, for most polishing compound including diamond it is easy to overdo it.
and great show, can't wait to see the end results.
+Robert like We should have the video finished up within a month or so! We'll post the final product in the final video.
thank you for the excellent videos !..a work in themselves and excellently done !...my interest is technical rather than artistic however, many of my questions have been answered : )
Wow yeah, another great video. Amazing.
Thank you - this was very fascinating - I have so many questions about your life experiences - how you got into this - how and what training you had etc. You seem like a cool guy.
Here is a link to a brief interview I did with an online publication that discusses some of these things. If you're interested you can read it here: voyagechicago.com/interview/meet-steve-moriarty-moriartys-gem-art-northwest-indiana-suberb-chicago/
As you move from shaping to polishing, do you need to change to a different cleaning cloth in case the cloth used for shaping has picked up abrasive particles from the stone, or is that not an issue?
Great series Steve, thank you for a nicely put together set of videos.
I had a question about the polish step here: Why did you need to cheat the angle for the polish step; I understand why it was needed to correct for a polish that was offset deeper to one side but why did this happen in the first place? Did the dop stick get removed and reinserted into the quill to create this "twist"? Or is it just the machine going out of alignment? It seems like the two videos were filmed back to back so I'm surprised of this issue when the facet seems like it was *just* cut at that very angle.
Its not unusual to have to cheat as the machines are not perfect and different laps can cause the need to cheat as they also are not perfect. Different pressures on the dop or stone can cause angle and rotation changes. So I am not sure why but when you are cutting it is easy to see that you need to cheat. Thanks for watching if you have other questions let us know.
Can you put a link where I can purchase these 🙏 I’m really enjoying this thank you 🙏
Super awesome, l am very impressed♥️♥️♥️
Have you ever considered using bluing ink or dye to see what you're taking off for the polishing process? Or would this just not be a good idea and unnecessary?
very simple machine but very good craft
Thank you so much. If I have one big rough stone and I want to cut it into small stones like 1,3 mm for example, how should I cut it? Do I need to cut it to tiny slices first and then to cut the slices to 1,5 mm square pieces? And what kind of machine do I need to make the slices?
I have never cut small stones like this. You will want a saw and very thin saw blades. A blade less than .012. I believe I used to use a .004 but it needs to be small diameter when this thin. A high tech saw with a 4-5 inch blade is a possible combo it the rough is not large.
@@Moregems it was just un idea, I don’t know exactly how small stones should be done from a big stone. Maybe it is just a waste of material and it is best to start right away with a small rough stone.
You could hear the thing causing the scratching. It made distinctive sounds, when you hit the right spot it was a smooth sound. When you moved back it was clunky. You could see in your face after both that the spot was good or bad...
Can you use sanding belt cleaner on the laps to refresh them?
I would not recommend it
Thanks nice video Steve.
Thank you for the tutorial! Very useful especially since I'm using learning with epoxy. (Importing issues!)
1. The Epoxy Removal fluid may have a trade name of "Attack" in your region; what is the composition of the fluid?
2. I'd be grateful for an explanation on the Tin lap and "a clear lap" used for rubies (semi-gem) and sapphires (semi-gem) for cabochons.
3. :-) Would a leather lap be used?
Today I had a thought as to how gems are cut and finished. Your videos did exactly that! Thanks so much for taking the time. I do have a question for you. On your machine, I noticed when setting the degree angle (eg. 44.1 degrees) you are not pressing on the shaft. Wouldn't this change the actual angle once pressing down? Thanks in advance!
+directorgtr If you press hard it can change the angle but only slightly. I try to use the same pressure on each facet so they are all the same angle.
where can i buy this complete set of machine ?
thank you so much for sharing this video ,i have a question .if you do not mind ,i think pear shape cutting is harder then round or square shape. my question is that small size gem is easy to facet in pear shape based on the diagram, but the large size of gem stone is hard to facet in pear shape based on the diagram, what should I do? change the angle of the diagram or do something else? please..Thanks
+matt kermani Not sure we understand. What is the size difference and what issues are you having?
+MoreGems.com hello, thanks for responding, when you are cutting a small pear shaped stone relative to a bigger pear shaped stone do you still use the same diagram numbers or angles as you would cutting a larger pear shaped stone. when i am cutting a bigger pear shaped stone and when i get to the top sides ill end up having issues with it, i hope that made more since, is the issue from angles or the diagram numbers?
+matt kermani Its not the size, it is the length to width ratio that determines the angles you have to cut. The longer the length the deeper you need to cut the gem so you can get a good angle at the tip. You often need a completely different design for different ratios. Long and Steele designs are set up for different ratios. 1.20-1.30-1.50-1.70. The ratio is the length divided by the width.
MoreGems.com Hello.thank you for helpful information ,i will try it.Thanks
Steve, Thanks so much for this series. I have been faceting for a few years now when my regular job doesn't get in the way. I have similar difficulties when i polish with Cerium Oxide and some times it is extremely frustrating. Your video shows me that i am not the only one that has those problems. The question that i have is do you always use distilled water and what brand name Cerium do you use, I use Super Cerium. Thanks Rick
I don't generally use distilled water, we just use good quality tap water. The cerium we are using is the same as you, Super Cerium. It seems like it is always a problem... we just try cleaning the lap off, cutting in a different direction, or using another area on the lap.
But i like that machine you use and for carbanados you have to have it at high rpm they are tough but easy to learn on cause you cant eat it away fast as regular gems even if the discs are new lol thanks for your videos i realky enjoy them
Hi Steve. I have come into possession of an old machine that doesn't have a dial on it. Not sure about the make yet as it is still in transit. Is this going to make cutting a great deal harder, not having the dial?
I have cut on a machine without a depth gauge, you just have to look at the stone more ofter to check meets.
Very helpful 👍🏻
how to cut big stones to points carats?
Steve, Q.1.do you have any nightmare stories from your decades of doing this where you messed up or got tripped up by a surprise in the stone? Q.2. Is this cut & polish you did on the Citrine what should be expected of mainstream jewelry stores?(I've seen some really poorly cut/polished stones online) or is this more the quality for the custom or high end buyer?
Many but you get to expect this and you move on to the next stone as you know most will be great gems. When I started cutting Ethiopian opal it literally kept me up a night. My wife told me to quit cutting them. The issue was that one in three were cracking and many were the next day after the work was done. Fortunately I persisted and learned how to deal with this material. I am down to about 1 in 10 cracking and I can accept this as it is the nature of this opal. If they don’t crack in a day or two they will not crack.
You should always look for fine cutting as it makes a huge difference in the look and sparkle in the gem. You are right most gems are poorly cut.
Where can I find the 3m spectra laps ?
Kingsley north
What speed are you using?
Very slow when using cerium.
what it is pink diamon
Thank you so much for this!
how do i polish egg like shape stuff?
This video may help you... We're cutting opal, but it shows you how to cab a gemstone. Let us know if this was what you're looking for or if you have any other questions. th-cam.com/video/UGOR_0LmF_4/w-d-xo.html
I am confused why he didn't cut the entire gem and then polish the Pavilion. Was it because of the epoxy that he uses to hold it to the stick? Sorry, I forgot the name of the arms that he glues to the gems. Ohhh maybe it is because once he detaches the gem from the stick it will be hard to get it in the exact spot again? Is this why?
Yes it’s a two part job. Once attached to the dop it is imperative that it stays exactly in the same orientation
where can I get refractol
+Robert like You can try gravescompany.com
- They normally sell to dealers only, but they say if there is not a
dealer near you they may possibly send it direct to you. It's about
$7.50 for the refractol immersion liquid. I would try contacting them.
Do you know how to cut a heart shape stone? There is no one online that teaches that.
Yes, Steve has used the edge of the lap in the past, as well as a dremel. He said you can cut the basic pattern of a heart shape, then add in the notch after. It's difficult to explain, but can be done.
Mr Mariarty I'm very impressed with you door ;)
I wonder what do u save in there :D
This is at our retail store, Moriarty's Gem Art! The building was an old bank.
dear Mr. Mariarty
I have a problem with pricing the rough stones, I'm buying red garnets, tourmaline ( green hues) and sapphire. sizes are small range 1and 2 grams per piece with no visible cracks
will you please guide me how to price them ?
Mohamed.h.amer@gmail.com
Mohamed.h.amer@gmail.com
Sorry, unfortunately we won't be able to help you with that.
Oh wouldn't you like to know, Mo
dopping: in others video you just put glue around the dop ,in this one you filled the cone. why ,i thaught it was a no no to fill the cone?
If I am cutting the crown and it will be going in “attack” solvent I glue between the dop and the stone. Also if it is a stone that can take heat, Aqua, sapphire, zircon and others I will put glue between the stone and the dop for a more secure bond.
Hello sir
This is not easy at all. So much to learn.
+Dolly Ohn Chein The information is here is you need it! Please feel free to let us know if you have any questions.
Thanks.
I use a china machine and its alot easier you do 3 steps only cut shape facet but you cut and shape with 100 grit then you move 1000 on th cut and shape the 3k then the faucets you cut polish all at once so you dont have to set back you do it all for instantce your a 45 you cut the 45 faucets polish the 45 faucets with 100 change the disc to 1k then change to the 3k on the same faucets then if you cut more then you repeat like if you move to 45 or 50 the same way it stays accurate that way no oh it moved this way that way the faucets get all cut polished the same way evry time dont have to even look in a lopp no problems i can do a gem in an hour no matter the size or gem and my machine stays at 1500 rpm every time even in the polish just 3k too the polish i can cut any gem as long as the gem fits length wize on an 8 inch thats as big as i can cut a gem or facet with no problems i learned my self and i did the process this way to do gems fast and accurate and no scratches the onnly thing i have trouble with is the table cause i need to come out with a jig that will keep the table at a slant cause i burly reaches if i make the jig than any one can faucet with my machine
He said 100ct tanzanite 😢😢😢😢
aapaka nabar bhejo
Yy
Can you genuinely make a living at this or is it hobby?
Steve did, he used to just cut then sell his goods on the road to jewelers or at trade shows. He later opened a retail store where we cut the stones, custom design the mountings, and manufacture the jewelry all in house. You can visit our website at www.MoreGems.com or our retail store in Crown Point, IN. It just depends on the time and effort that you want to put into it.