The amount of self sabotage people pulled off in BCS and BB is actually pretty impressive. So many opportunities to come out ahead were squandered on pride, ego, revenge....you name it. Costing most of the main cast everything in the end.
Agreed. That's what makes this show so real, as well as heartbreaking for the audience. There were so many times when they could have turned around and made a good life for themselves.
We were robbed of Kim and Cliff scene in the sequel timeline. I think Cliff’s reaction of Kim revealing the truth would be more impactful than those of Cheryl because unlike Cheryl, Cliff has a deeper relationship with Kim. He had so much faith in Kim that he set a lunch meeting for her and it’s must be shocking for him to know that Kim was the one who ruined Howard’s life and Howard was correct the whole time (because in case of Jimmy, Cliff would be like “Yep, Howard might sound crazy at that time but looking back at it, scamming people is Jimmy’s thing as of course he’s done that to Howard” but in case of Kim, it’s world-shattering because like everyone else, especially the audience in real life, Cliff saw Kim as a morally pure hero).
Cliff might not be alive at that point in the story cause he’s already pretty old and could either be dead or not have the best recollection of events (dementia)
@@RedNinja0070 I watched my great aunt go from normal functioning human to completely unable to function and incapable of memory over the course of 4 years. It happens. Not saying that is 100% what happened but if you want your own head canon to why we didn’t get a Cliff reaction that’s a possibility.
@danthehippo4275 or its just a show so enough overthinking my dude Regardless of our opinion on this show, I cant help but extend my sympathies to you and your family over this tragedy. It's something horrible and I would never wish that on anyone (Certainly never you my dude). I know that feeling of not being remembered by a loved one.. It sucks horribly and if that person is suffering from dementia... I can never ... So yes I can obviously see your point regarding Cliff ( from your perspective). I hope you're all doing well Dan.
They couldn’t get a hold of Kim so perhaps she just didn’t care about Albuquerque anymore, they only got her to come back because Saul lied about involving her in the statement.
The heads of the law firms in BCS come across as such professional, courteous, and forthright characters. Cliff Main, Rick Schweikart, Howard Hamlin. They're genuinely supportive of both Kim and Jimmy, and always get burned for it. Cliff even asks how Jimmy's doing when he sees Kim, in one scee, after his last interaction with him was over the younger McGill brother's over-the-top antics at Davis & Main. It's refreshing, really. Everybody loves the caricature of the sleazeball lawyer, often because we've had a run-in with one or two. And we got that with Saul in BB and in his more colorful moments in BCS. But the show goes out of its way to demonstrate that there's another path Jimmy and Kim could have, should have followed.
I know a number of attorneys, some are close friends. All are partners at their firms. And they're all very normal, decent, funny people. They're also smart, motivated, hard-working people. But none of them are sleazeballs or ambulance chasers or whatever.
This is THE moment for her. The point of no return. She could’ve had the law career that truly helped people that she always wanted and she threw it away for the pettiest revenge plot imaginable. We all love Kim Wexler, but she deserved to be in prison right next to Jimmy.
Cliff didn't see through Kim, he didn't see through Jimmy, and it's implied that his own son has ripped him off a thousand times. Cliff always gave me the impression of someone who is too good to be in the position he's in, someone who always sees the best in people and somehow still manages to remain in a position of authority and respect despite taking hit after hit as consequences of his optimism.
@@spyrath1935 When they fooled him to believe that Howard was a coke addict and regular customer of prostitutes, I felt worse for Cliff than for Howard himself, because he's really such a kind person and they just use him and destroy his friendship with Howard as well. And when Jimmy played bagpipes, I also could barely watch :D
@@dingo_dude I think your phrasing throws off your meaning. You make it sound like Kim and Jimmy threw her life away or that by getting involved with Jimmy, Kim threw her life away when I think what you mean is that Kim and Jimmy threw their lives away.
@@henrypeters5291 I appreciate your input, but have to disagree. “Throwing her life away *with* Jimmy” pretty clearly implies that it is something that they both did together
I wonder why Cliff said she was more or less making minimum wage. If she made 700 dollars for 50 hours that would be 14 dollars an hour, way about New Mexico's $5.25 2004 minimum wage
he also just didnt actually pause to do the math, it was an off the cuff comment that demonstrated he knew the value she was bringing to the table compared to what she was being paid
You can see in Kims face after he says it they both know its not ACTUALLY minimum wage but for the work shes putting in and the money she could easily be making it might aswell be.
He said "more or less," and the clear implication was that she was earning ... on an hourly basis ... much less than accomplished attorneys would expect to earn.
I don't know if it's better, I can give you 10 arguments why BB is better than BCS and then, another 10 why BCS is better, and then other 10 arguments, and again, and again, and again, forever. But I prefer to think that both are masterpieces and with that, I am happy.
The amount of self sabotage people pulled off in BCS and BB is actually pretty impressive. So many opportunities to come out ahead were squandered on pride, ego, revenge....you name it. Costing most of the main cast everything in the end.
In real life the people does the same
Agreed. That's what makes this show so real, as well as heartbreaking for the audience. There were so many times when they could have turned around and made a good life for themselves.
It’s like one of the main themes of the series.
@justinbieber8028 I'm a belieber.
@@shiptj01 thank you sir
We were robbed of Kim and Cliff scene in the sequel timeline.
I think Cliff’s reaction of Kim revealing the truth would be more impactful than those of Cheryl because unlike Cheryl, Cliff has a deeper relationship with Kim. He had so much faith in Kim that he set a lunch meeting for her and it’s must be shocking for him to know that Kim was the one who ruined Howard’s life and Howard was correct the whole time (because in case of Jimmy, Cliff would be like “Yep, Howard might sound crazy at that time but looking back at it, scamming people is Jimmy’s thing as of course he’s done that to Howard” but in case of Kim, it’s world-shattering because like everyone else, especially the audience in real life, Cliff saw Kim as a morally pure hero).
Cliff might not be alive at that point in the story cause he’s already pretty old and could either be dead or not have the best recollection of events (dementia)
@danthehippo4275 it would've just been 6 years.. So not that old..
@@RedNinja0070 I watched my great aunt go from normal functioning human to completely unable to function and incapable of memory over the course of 4 years. It happens. Not saying that is 100% what happened but if you want your own head canon to why we didn’t get a Cliff reaction that’s a possibility.
@danthehippo4275 or its just a show so enough overthinking my dude
Regardless of our opinion on this show, I cant help but extend my sympathies to you and your family over this tragedy. It's something horrible and I would never wish that on anyone (Certainly never you my dude). I know that feeling of not being remembered by a loved one.. It sucks horribly and if that person is suffering from dementia... I can never ... So yes I can obviously see your point regarding Cliff ( from your perspective). I hope you're all doing well Dan.
They couldn’t get a hold of Kim so perhaps she just didn’t care about Albuquerque anymore, they only got her to come back because Saul lied about involving her in the statement.
Ed was such a good choice for Cliff. Dude has had one crazy career, and I’m glad the show paid respects to him.
The heads of the law firms in BCS come across as such professional, courteous, and forthright characters. Cliff Main, Rick Schweikart, Howard Hamlin. They're genuinely supportive of both Kim and Jimmy, and always get burned for it. Cliff even asks how Jimmy's doing when he sees Kim, in one scee, after his last interaction with him was over the younger McGill brother's over-the-top antics at Davis & Main. It's refreshing, really. Everybody loves the caricature of the sleazeball lawyer, often because we've had a run-in with one or two. And we got that with Saul in BB and in his more colorful moments in BCS. But the show goes out of its way to demonstrate that there's another path Jimmy and Kim could have, should have followed.
I know a number of attorneys, some are close friends. All are partners at their firms. And they're all very normal, decent, funny people. They're also smart, motivated, hard-working people. But none of them are sleazeballs or ambulance chasers or whatever.
I squirm watching this clip now, knowing that Kim threw away a huge opportunity so she and Jimmy could get back at Howard.
This is THE moment for her. The point of no return. She could’ve had the law career that truly helped people that she always wanted and she threw it away for the pettiest revenge plot imaginable. We all love Kim Wexler, but she deserved to be in prison right next to Jimmy.
@@811chelseafc And it’s a shame that only Jimmy went to jail.
Even Cliff can't see through Kim's facade.
Unlike Jimmy, she has a facade of respectability and professionalism.
Kim was a great attorney. Cliff saw that and wanted to support the work she was doing.
Cliff didn't see through Kim, he didn't see through Jimmy, and it's implied that his own son has ripped him off a thousand times. Cliff always gave me the impression of someone who is too good to be in the position he's in, someone who always sees the best in people and somehow still manages to remain in a position of authority and respect despite taking hit after hit as consequences of his optimism.
@@spyrath1935 When they fooled him to believe that Howard was a coke addict and regular customer of prostitutes, I felt worse for Cliff than for Howard himself, because he's really such a kind person and they just use him and destroy his friendship with Howard as well. And when Jimmy played bagpipes, I also could barely watch :D
@@L0REN0R2Z0RR0 What is that??
Better Rim Cliff
Ayo
😂😂😂
Huh??
Better rim kim
Better Sniff Cliff
I miss the anticipation of a new season or episode, i couldn’t wait for it to drop on Netflix. One of the best shows ever
Cliff really was a nice guy and a great boss. Too bad Jimmy couldn't have made it work.
If he was still around he problably would've regretted and be shocked about everything Howard said on what Jimmy and Kim did was true.
what do you mean? Did semthigtn happen to him?
@@albert-i2d4r Howard stopped practicing law and became a lab assistant to Lalo Salamanca
"My client was pulled over because he had a car air freshener" really should have been all Kim had to say.
wow what a Cliff hanger of a clip
That ponytail got curlier & tighter in Season 6. Until it collapsed in 609.
I keep seeing him as Dr. Linkletter
I’m the opposite lmao
Sheldon is a cocaine addict
This is the moment when Kim Wexler talked to Cliff and switched to Slippin' Kimmy
I luv Kim
She's worser than Skylar
oh look its henry starling from 1996 los angeles star trek voyager lol
if only kim didn’t throw her life away with jimmy
Ah yes, so Kim takes no responsibility for her own actions then. Always blaming Jimmy.
@@nont18411 I just said “if only *kim didn’t throw her life away*”. meaning she threw it away herself. learn to read
@@dingo_dude I think your phrasing throws off your meaning. You make it sound like Kim and Jimmy threw her life away or that by getting involved with Jimmy, Kim threw her life away when I think what you mean is that Kim and Jimmy threw their lives away.
@@henrypeters5291 I appreciate your input, but have to disagree. “Throwing her life away *with* Jimmy” pretty clearly implies that it is something that they both did together
@@dingo_dudeI agree with you. I don't know what's so complicated to understand about what you said.
Howard was so right about her and Jimmy.
I wonder why Cliff said she was more or less making minimum wage. If she made 700 dollars for 50 hours that would be 14 dollars an hour, way about New Mexico's $5.25 2004 minimum wage
he also just didnt actually pause to do the math, it was an off the cuff comment that demonstrated he knew the value she was bringing to the table compared to what she was being paid
@@MohnJcIntyreYeah. He’s hyperbolizing. He’s pointing out to Kim she could be making a lot more for the effort she puts into her cases.
You can see in Kims face after he says it they both know its not ACTUALLY minimum wage but for the work shes putting in and the money she could easily be making it might aswell be.
Well, they're not attorney wages anyhow.
He said "more or less," and the clear implication was that she was earning ... on an hourly basis ... much less than accomplished attorneys would expect to earn.
It's my all-time favorite TV series ❤
The spin-off is better than the original
@@dirtyhours Ehh
I don't know if it's better, I can give you 10 arguments why BB is better than BCS and then, another 10 why BCS is better, and then other 10 arguments, and again, and again, and again, forever.
But I prefer to think that both are masterpieces and with that, I am happy.
This was her chance to do what she wanted and fight for the little guy. And she blew it to play stupid games.
Kim was a great and good lawyer, it’s really sad how Jimmy dragged her down.
You missed the point
who's ajay chem
Wow I just realized they made a Daunte Wright reference here with the air freshener….damn
he's from young sheldon? i recognized him
Yes Ed Begley Jr. also famous for the 80's series St. Elsewhere.
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Cliff was great in Tales From the Crypt ^^
That was a disturbing episode i think. But he was great in it!