The Conception Of The Howard Plan | Wine and Roses | Better Call Saul

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  • @skroumi2538
    @skroumi2538 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +147

    There's just something so eerie about slippin' Kimmy. To see a moral character turn into quite the opposite is so sad.

    • @dtczyk8976
      @dtczyk8976 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      What’s even crazier is that not only is she moral she is extremely compassionate. She really cares about the innocent people that can’t afford a good lawyer.

  • @AlexandraAndStuff
    @AlexandraAndStuff 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +242

    Kim is 100% responsible for her own demise, but I still felt very bad for her. It's also a nice case study of what happens if you decide to step away from a bad path (Kim) vs. keep on going (Jimmy)

    • @nont18411
      @nont18411 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Jimmy could choose not to be evil but somehow he let a guy who died a long time ago (Chuck) to have too much influence over him and kept blaming Chuck (and Kim as an extension of Chuck) for making him that way.
      I’m 100% convinced that Jimmy chose to be evil. I’m not that convinced that Jimmy could choose to be good.
      The reason that I didn’t buy that Jimmy has turned “good” during his redemption moment, because he never regretted destroying Howard’s life. He only regretted that Kim dumped him for it. And the main priorities of his redemption were to exonerate Kim (from something that was her fault) and to make himself look good in front of Kim, not because he grew his conscience on his own.
      Overall, Kim is not a perfect person. Very flawed but still has a good side. Jimmy, on the other hand, is an irredeemable abomination monster who is pure evil to the core.

    • @michaelwhit1059
      @michaelwhit1059 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      Jimmy did it for Kim.
      Saul did it for money.
      Kim did it for *fun*.

    • @jotarokujo5132
      @jotarokujo5132 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      ​@@nont18411 pure evil ? whoa there. there are dozens of characters who put Saul's crimes to shame.
      Saul was a greedy lawyer, nothing more.

    • @summ.3433
      @summ.3433 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@jotarokujo5132 I love how he calls Saul this mustache twirling evil person while being sympathetic to Kim despite her actions leading to Howard getting killed. Pure cringe.

  • @williamwestmoreland4069
    @williamwestmoreland4069 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +99

    The shot at the end where Kim and Jimmy are depicted behind bars is symbolic of how there's a fence outside. Bravo Vince

    • @ConsumeristScroffa
      @ConsumeristScroffa 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      A fence outside? Wdym?

    • @gabe6475
      @gabe6475 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Willliamwestmoreland4069 STOP. HELPING.

    • @lilithgrey8057
      @lilithgrey8057 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@ConsumeristScroffa There is a fence outside of the restaurant, a fence is like wall but outside to deter animals and stuff. Hope this helps!

    • @km077
      @km077 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@lilithgrey8057 It's also worth pointing out that such wall is see-through. It's the very staple of modern engineering, not seen indoors. In prehistoric times people were forced to use glass like absolute dum-dums, but since the moonlanding we have learned that we can install special, non-distorting devices into the material itself. The youth calls them "gyapps" or whatever. I prefer the old-school "gaps".

  • @pablo_giustiniani
    @pablo_giustiniani 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +116

    The lightning in this scene is insane

    • @siamesevodka
      @siamesevodka 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      The cinematography in the entire series was brilliant,

    • @CheesyChez421
      @CheesyChez421 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      It's cuz lightning shoots from his fingertips

    • @Hustlery
      @Hustlery 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@CheesyChez421kid named finger

  • @DaScorpionSting
    @DaScorpionSting 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +52

    The beginning of something that Jimmy could've backed off after he had his fun but Kim wanted hers.

  • @SteveNathn
    @SteveNathn 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    3:40 on rewatch is so good. When he says "coke", they both look at each other like they know the other use of the word would work - especially Jimmy's quick look at 3:52 and Kim's side nod following that

  • @ozundone7805
    @ozundone7805 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Rewatching the lead up to Plan and Execution always gives me chills. They just had no idea

  • @dog_owner
    @dog_owner 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    jimmy really didnt want to destroy howard but his love for kim told him to go through with it

    • @oliviamonamekionis4550
      @oliviamonamekionis4550 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Kim pushed him, but he pushed Kim first. They wouldn't have done all the terrible things without each others (bad) influence.
      On the other hand, isn't there something slippery about Jimmy before Kim... Maybe Jimmy would have turned Saul without her, but she wouldn't have went that path if not Jimmy. In that way, I feel his influence was bigger/ uglier

    • @richardconstante6486
      @richardconstante6486 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@oliviamonamekionis4550Saul Goodman was born because of Chuck, Kim had nothing to do with it and actually was against it. But in the series and with the years they were together Kim was influenced to be her true self and have fun without really think about the consequences of their actions until it was too late

  • @SteveNathn
    @SteveNathn 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    I fr need a woman to look and talk like that to me, the way Kim does to Jimmy

    • @snowarmth
      @snowarmth 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      It helps to be as invested in the conversation as she is because people mirror other people. The hard part for a guy is getting a girl to be interested. XD Try not to be too pushy, etc. It's rocket science~

  • @kidnamedfinguh
    @kidnamedfinguh 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    With Kim,jimmy can be the best version of himself, but with Jimmy, Kim becomes the worst version of herself😢what a tragic love story

  • @mrcakey3704
    @mrcakey3704 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That outside shot with the still beats. Like we didn't know the significance then but the crew did.

  • @buckbuck9225
    @buckbuck9225 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    This reminds me of why I dislike attorneys.. cocktail party's and everyone's secrets..I'm glad I didn't marry mine. Hells gonna be rough...

  • @nachocarrillo7106
    @nachocarrillo7106 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Sopaipillas, CHILE mentioned 🇨🇱

  • @lakemadden4397
    @lakemadden4397 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    i just love her

  • @Blizzard199X
    @Blizzard199X 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +56

    Jimmy ordering a coke is pretty clever foreshadowing.

    • @Jasman500
      @Jasman500 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      How

    • @joanavarrobellido
      @joanavarrobellido 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      @@Jasman500because of what they do to howard afterwards, make everyone think that he does cocaine (coke for short)

    • @MarfilStudios
      @MarfilStudios 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      @@joanavarrobellido I think you are over analyzing this lmao

    • @ConsumeristScroffa
      @ConsumeristScroffa 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@MarfilStudiosYup. I mean, there's plenty of foreshadowing, no doubt. But some fans try to find connections in every little thing.

    • @LegendaryMatt93
      @LegendaryMatt93 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@MarfilStudios Absolutely not. Nearly every second shot of this show is done the way it is for a reason.

  • @ReaverLordTonus
    @ReaverLordTonus 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Can you imagine what Walter White could have accomplished if Skyler was more like Kim, or if Jimmy died early in the show and Kim assumed his role in Breaking Bad and became Walt and Jessie's lawyer?

  • @idanlewenhoff2295
    @idanlewenhoff2295 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    kim is the dream girl

  • @dextermcgrubbin
    @dextermcgrubbin 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Jimmy will do anything for Kim's approval. These two are bad for each other.

  • @DarkRek-y5q
    @DarkRek-y5q 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    New episode?

  • @jawaunaewing2627
    @jawaunaewing2627 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amazing amazing

  • @CheesyChez421
    @CheesyChez421 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    3:26-3:46 is such great writing.