I prefer Vater sticks myself. They feel sturdier than Vics. However, I agree with you about this guy. Seems like someone you could just sit down and talk to for hours.
Not only is your playing awesome Nick but I always look forward to your reviews because you actually cover all the features of the kits you play as oppose to just showing off. Thank you Sweetwater!!
@@sweetwater This is not a review video, it`s a "How to Use" video with an advertising trend. You even didn't check how the units sound physically without using any sound bank. It matters for bunch of the users who don`t want to make noise in rehearsal times at home.
This fella is such a great reviewer I think he should be made the official internet product review guy!! Easy to understand, very informative and low key.
Great demonstration! So much so that I am ordering the TD-17KVX TODAY and getting back into drumming after 40 years of being away. Thanks for the inspiration.
Good luck with your order. I ordered a 17-KVX kit almost a month ago. First I was told 1-2 weeks, then 3-4 weeks, now it's December. Disappointed in the way things were handled by Sweetwater. Then I get e-mails that say the kit is in BUT when I followed up, not for me. Oh no, they are going to previously placed orders. But it was nice to inform me that kits came in..ughh..
Thanks for this review. I’ve put a deposit down on a TD17KVX for my son’s Christmas. Of all the review videos i watched this is easily the best and most informative.
So glad Roland came up with this kit. I like the import capability. Now you don't need to spend the $ on theTD50 for that. If you have a VST you can sample your favorite sounds and load them into the module. And the module is the same price as the TD11.
Such a comprehensive review from such a modest drummer. The guy can play... Like the way you carry yourself my dude. Refreshing. I Own a Roland (only way to go)
I don’t even care what product it is I just love watching Nick play!!! But I am considering an electric kit for my apartment because I can practice otherwise and it’s maddening
You should have showcased a few more of the acoustic drum kits, expecially the snares. There are other reviews out there that show that for the first time, the acoustic drum sounds in a Roland module actually sound decent, and most importantly they seem to have managed to solve the machine gun effect. Could be the more affordable alternative to the Pearl Mimic Pro.
They sound a lot better than decent dude. They're literally best in the business lol E kits will never sound as good as acoustic so the Roland's sound relatively amazing
Why does this low mid-tier priced kit sound LEAGUES better than its higher end counterparts? Like no cap, the TD-50 AND the TD-27 don’t sound nearly as good, especially the hi-hats on the TD-27. This kit is BEAST.
Hi! Great review! I would like to ask you something that happens to me and I do not see anybody speaking about it. I have the TD17 module on a VAD 306. When I import my own sounds, for example a ride cymbal, if I hit it twice then the second hit mutes the first, creating a really weird and unnatural sensation. Typical situation when hitting the ride alternating one hard and one soft hit in a groove. The soft hit does not overlap and mix with the first, but it kind of replaces it creating a drastic decay between the hard it and the soft one. I hope my explanation was clear enough so that you could give me an opinion of how to solve this. I was able to improve the performance by crating another sublayer but it’s not ideal. Obviously, this behavior does not occur with the preset the TD17 comes with. Thank you!
Hi Thanks for the review. Which of the three k, kV and kvs is the best with reference to the hihat. This bcos I bought TD 25 k with I guess VH 11 hi hat and its very difficult calibrating n setting up
Need help!!! when hit assign - hit rim - set sound I want- then go back to kit - the head and the rim have the sound I assigned, not jus the rim. What am I doing wrong?????
I have a TD-9KX2 with the VH-11 HH and additional crash and cowbell. I am considering replacing the TD-9 module with the TD-17 module (leaving all current pads). Good idea or not? Thanks
Thanks to help me using my kit. I didn't have time to explore yet. I would say everything's right and this kit is awesome except for 2 things : no, set-up of hi-hat is not easy at all and not accurate. And still about the hi hat there is a huge problem of the pad spinning when you play and you can't do anything about that because you can't block the rod.
Ridiculously excellent & comprehensive demo! In the video around 23:23, am I understanding that the Aux input makes this kit expandable by one drum pad? Could it be a cymbal pad instead? Also, can you recommend some good (plastic head) beaters for this set? I'm thinking heavily of selling my acoustic set and getting this Roland kit, mostly because it won't scare my cat like my acoustic one does; MUCH cheaper than sound-proofing a room. Plus, they're easier to transport and if I ever want to record I don't have to worry about mics, mixing, etc.
Why no one talk about limits of this drum module like playing together 2 triggers of the same pad/cymbal (head - rim) when I do the rimshot properly (rim-mesh) only the mesh sound will come out, if I want to hear the rim I have to hit ONLY the rim. I made several tests with 2 sticks hitting together rim and mesh and they will never sound together. This problem becomes more obvious when you split the aux cable to ad an extra pad, since you can't play them at the same time. Anyone noticed that?
I have an older TD-4 kit and was wondering if this is worth upgrading to? I'm a keyboardist that uses V-drums strictly for recording or laying down basic drum tracks, and (if the beat is too complicated) have my drummer friends come by later to put down a better groove.
Just got these yesterday, very happy with this purchase. The sounds are incredible and the sensitivity is on point. This replaced my last kit Roland TD1MK, which I had for about 5 mo, before the cymbals gave out on me. The sound difference and feel blows me away. I have a some of questions tho, if anyone can assist that would be awesome. I cannot for the life of me figure out how to properly mount the brain, since the mounting piece is contrary to the mounting piece on the module, meaning it goes the wrong way in order to have it facing u correctly. Also the cymbal piece that are supposed to mount under the cymbal does not fit properly as there are cymbal mounts that are already there that cannot be moved. Also, because this is so much better than the TDMK, Im having problems hearing the music from my IPhone, because the volume is too low to hear and play along with on my headphones. My phone volume is turned all the way up, so its not that. Do I need a better set of headphones? Is there anyway to tweak this, besides turning the volume down on the module to match the level of music? Thanks for any help.
Hi Nick, Great review! Quick question for you...I just purchased this kit yesterday and I noticed on yours there are two cords connecting the ride cymbal - is this unique to KVX? I purchased the KV version and my kit includes only the two CY-8's and I'm guessing that's the difference? Thanks for any insight you can share!
Hey Mark, There are multiple versions of the Roland TD-17's to fit in the budget for every drummer. Since you bought the "TD-17KV" the only difference is that you do not have the extra cymbal and you have an electric hi-hat stand Which will save you from having to buy a hi-hat stand. In the video, Nick is using the "TD-17 KVX". The KVX requires a hi-hat stand and kick pedal. You can add an extra cymbal in the future. Just contact a Sweetwater Sales Engineer to assist you. Hope this helped!
NDV, what plastic bass drum beater do you recommend for bass drum mesh heads? I've been using a Tama Speed Cobra with Iron Cobra felt beaters on my Remo Silent Stroke with no issues, at least not yet.
Hello, and thanks for reaching out with the question! I would recommend the Pro1V beater. I have included a link below for your review: www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/P1V4--trick-drums-pro1v-beater Thanks for the interest, I hope you have a great day! Ian Lemberg, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1280
Nice review but I loved to have heard some more acoustic sets. Things like the machine gun effect and also sidestick playing. In general a bit more playing time would have been nice.
Hello Nick, I have been waiting a long time for someone to demo the ddrum Hybrid 5 Kit 5-piece Acoustic/Electric Drum Set - Black with Red Hardware. Even though has been listed on sweetwater page for a long time no one has done a demo. Please demo using some sound triggers and modules. Thanks
Great guide! I have a question... You mentioned connecting to your DAW.. I was wondering if the kit had multi track recording? I can't see individual drum outputs... So don't think it's possible unless it's done in a different way?
Hi, Elia! The TD-17 module has two capabilities over the USB cable. First, it can send a stereo audio stream so you can record a premixed version of what you are hearing. Heads up, this is not multitrack audio, but a stereo mix. Secondly, it will send a MIDI signal over the USB cable so you can use the kit to trigger your virtual instrument of choice. Thanks for the interest! Cody Kraus, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1766, cody_kraus@sweetwater.com
So? If I have a TD11 kit I bought from Sweetwater of course,, can I buy the TD17 Module in the future and swap that out with the TD11 one to get the benefits of the new Module without having to buy a whole new kit?
What’s the extent of compatibility with triggering computer based drum kits I.e. Superior drums, Slate drums, BFD etc.? There is no USB (or other computer Connection ) besides MIDI?
yeah not a standard usb port like the td-11 had :( . Just the usb/midi out port. Sucks they should have left the usb 2.0 in and added the sdhc slot and really upgraded the usb to 3.0/3.1 . would rather use that for external drive/stick/cell etc. Bluetooth is ok for some things but still usb is better :)
Where do we get all the samples from? Will we have to buy the samples from Roland? Or can we get samples online? WHat format does the sample have to be in order to save onto sd card and load into kit? Thanks so much Nick
Hi, Ernie! There are a lot of different places to get samples from. There are tons to be found online, both free and paid. You can create your own if you have a recording device, but currently Roland does not sell samples. As for your samples, you just need to make sure they are in ".wav" format for them to be able to be played back by the sound module. Thanks for the interest! Mike Wuchter, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (260) 247-8114
Hi, D! The VH-10 is a great hi-hat, and in my experience tracks very accurately. When the cymbal is not working well, it is often because it was not calibrated properly in the sound module. It is a simple process that only takes a few seconds, and when it is done right it makes a world of difference. Thanks for your interest! Mike Wuchter, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1789
Hey, Carlos. Thanks so much for your interest. Yes. Absolutely. The Roland cymbals have the exact same size holes traditional cymbals have. I hope this helps. Jason Thiele, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1391, jason_thiele@sweetwater.com
What hi-hat stand do you recommend for this kit other than the Roland one? I have DW pedals. So would I be able to just use a DW 3000 hi hat stand for this? (I’m not a drummer so I have no clue)
Hi, Asmus. You can use any standard hi-hat stand with that kit, so your DW will work just fine. Thanks for the interest! Mike Wuchter, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1789
Hi, Cole! The kit does not include either a hi-hat stand or bass drum pedal. So, you will have to provide your own. I would suggest checking out the new Roland RDH120 hi-hat stand and the RDH100 bass drum pedal with the kit. They do a great job of absorbing extra impact noise, making the kit even quieter to play on. Thanks for your interest! Mike Wuchter, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (260) 247-8114
I'm torn between this and the Alesis Command. I'm moving into an apartment so I want something quieter. I know the Command is cheaper but so is the price. I don't mind spending the extra money if it's worth it. So my question is, do you think the KVX is worth the extra money?
Go with the Roland.. I have the strike pro, and it looks great, fun to play on at times but it has tons of hiccups. I played the lower version of this kit at Sam Ash and was blown away at its responsiveness. Sounds were hard to tell because of the cheap monitor it was ran through but I think ran through a good Roland amp it’ll sound good. My biggest issue with Alesis is the cymbal response..they just kind of do their own thing.. also if you play along with music the snare is often triggered. The hi hat on the alesis is a nightmare and next to useless.
I am in between the 17 kv and 17 kvx, Is there a difference in sound? & does having a stand alone high hat stand makes a difference? and worth £500 Extra. I would really appreciate an advice
I have discover a way to convert 2box samples ( dsnd ) to ( wav ) iam gonna try them in the td17 module.if that will work, we got some interesting stuff to Come because if have the complete superior drummer 3 and steven slate drums 5 samples in my 2box drumit 3. Lets see...
Hi, Elsanty! You would be able to use both the auxiliary input and a Bluetooth device at the same time. However, there is only a single volume control that is shared. So, if you were to use both, I would suggest controlling the Bluetooth signal's volume on the device itself and then adjust the master volume that is shared for the other. Thanks for your interest! Mike Wuchter, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1789
If you're thinking of buying the TD-17 KV or KVX, one note of caution and something that never gets talked about in official or unofficial promo videos reviews is the fact the tom and snare holders do not stay in position, especially if you're a hard-hitting drummer or you're playing heavy song. It doesn't matter how you tighten them and there are three points where you can, if you play a Chilli Pepper or Rage Against The Machine type of hard-hitting song, you'll have to readjust at the end. If you're lucky maybe two hard-hitting tracks. Don't get me wrong, the kit sounds great and feels great but Roland has really dropped the ball here. I suspect the reason why review sites don't mention this, is because they're getting free kit. Well, I'm here to tell to beware of this design failure. I'm not sure what can be done for the tom holders/clamps/wing nut as they're are made entirely plastic and can only be tightened up so much, which is not the case for a steel clamp mechanism. You can, however, use or buy an acoustic snare drum stand, which I highly recommend.
So which part is causing the toms to move? The arm that's attached to the tom itself or the bar and clamp connected to the drum frame? I'm wondering if maybe wrapping some Teflon tape around the metal bars where it clamps. As far as the snare moving. I have not seen a video yet where the snare is not flopping around in some manner. Including Justin from 65drums. Do you have yours mounted on a snare stand? Don't the 3 uprights come up past the top of the snare? Thanks.
@@ohioplayer Can't see a reason not to. E-Drums aren't just practice tools anymore, they have most of the features of "real drums" at this point. Even if you still think that E-Drums are just a practice tool though, you shouldn't have to change your playing style by hitting lighter/softer.
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I love this guy. He never seems to have an ego, he reviews all sorts of products from all brands. And he uses Vic Firth!!! I love Vic Firth!!!!
David McAninch. Nick is brilliant at the demo thing....the best.
Vic Firth is probably the best stick since promark got bought out..but vic Firth breaks way easier for me
Check out the band Spock’s Beard. He was the drummer. Then singer. Then left. Then came back as drummer and backups :). Love this guy
The Midwest Brew Review I’m familiar with Spock’s Beard. Their album Snow is awesome!!!!
I prefer Vater sticks myself. They feel sturdier than Vics. However, I agree with you about this guy. Seems like someone you could just sit down and talk to for hours.
Not only is your playing awesome Nick but I always look forward to your reviews because you actually cover all the features of the kits you play as oppose to just showing off. Thank you Sweetwater!!
😁👍
@@sweetwater This is not a review video, it`s a "How to Use" video with an advertising trend.
You even didn't check how the units sound physically without using any sound bank. It matters for bunch of the users who don`t want to make noise in rehearsal times at home.
This fella is such a great reviewer I think he should be made the official internet product review guy!!
Easy to understand, very informative and low key.
Nick's simply the best - the way he plays the drum and he's always very educative and entertaining to watch. Thumbs up for Sweetwater and Nick!
Finally a new drum set by Roland
Great demonstration! So much so that I am ordering the TD-17KVX TODAY and getting back into drumming after 40 years of being away. Thanks for the inspiration.
Good luck with your order. I ordered a 17-KVX kit almost a month ago. First I was told 1-2 weeks, then 3-4 weeks, now it's December. Disappointed in the way things were handled by Sweetwater. Then I get e-mails that say the kit is in BUT when I followed up, not for me. Oh no, they are going to previously placed orders. But it was nice to inform me that kits came in..ughh..
Hows drumming going on your kvx?, no issues ?
Thanks for this review. I’ve put a deposit down on a TD17KVX for my son’s Christmas. Of all the review videos i watched this is easily the best and most informative.
I think this guy is the best so far I know for Roland Electric drum review. This review it does help. Thank you.
6:52 "Don't say ballsy...don't say ballsy..."
So glad Roland came up with this kit. I like the import capability. Now you don't need to spend the $ on theTD50 for that. If you have a VST you can sample your favorite sounds and load them into the module. And the module is the same price as the TD11.
Great demo Nick, Roland continues to innovate in the drum dept.
Such a comprehensive review from such a modest drummer. The guy can play... Like the way you carry yourself my dude. Refreshing. I Own a Roland (only way to go)
Amazing review-one of the best Ive seen!
😎👊
Damn; great and informative video, leading me to purchase the KVX soon ... real soon. Thanks for pushing me over the edge.
7:02 Nick blasted!
Thanks for all that info, it was very helpful. I'll have to check out your band.
Thank you for this intensive review, it looks awesome!
🙌 Thanks for checking it out, Kydo!
Thanks for this excellent review. I'm going through which kit to get into as a beginner and this has helped narrow down the choices.
Just bought the TD-17KVX-S yesterday and waiting for it to arrive. I am STOKED!!
Curious where you ordered from.
Everyone I've called is out of stock.
So how do you like your roland kit after you have been playing it?
8:45 that's a huge sounding kit
Great to see NDV reviewing the kit I'm about to buy. Missed him after his split from Spock's Beard.
6:30 “YA LIKE JAZZ”
How bout 'sum Jaaaazzzzzzzz
Very nice explanation. Really very good. Much appreciated bro.
Great review deffinitly helped make my choice!
I don’t even care what product it is I just love watching Nick play!!! But I am considering an electric kit for my apartment because I can practice otherwise and it’s maddening
I want. I'm not even a drummer, but I would love to learn on this kit.
yaaa rock and roll. I died there for a second. Great review
Sweetwater just seems like a great place--have always had good experience there--this is def my next kit.
Great presentation! Thanks! Greetings from Germany!
Yooo that tabla groove was tighttt 👏👏
Great review you are the best.
You should have showcased a few more of the acoustic drum kits, expecially the snares. There are other reviews out there that show that for the first time, the acoustic drum sounds in a Roland module actually sound decent, and most importantly they seem to have managed to solve the machine gun effect. Could be the more affordable alternative to the Pearl Mimic Pro.
They sound a lot better than decent dude. They're literally best in the business lol
E kits will never sound as good as acoustic so the Roland's sound relatively amazing
Why does this low mid-tier priced kit sound LEAGUES better than its higher end counterparts? Like no cap, the TD-50 AND the TD-27 don’t sound nearly as good, especially the hi-hats on the TD-27. This kit is BEAST.
fascinating. I'm no drummer whatsoever but I enjoyed watching and learning. Thank you
Cant wait to try out myself!
Hi! Great review! I would like to ask you something that happens to me and I do not see anybody speaking about it. I have the TD17 module on a VAD 306. When I import my own sounds, for example a ride cymbal, if I hit it twice then the second hit mutes the first, creating a really weird and unnatural sensation. Typical situation when hitting the ride alternating one hard and one soft hit in a groove. The soft hit does not overlap and mix with the first, but it kind of replaces it creating a drastic decay between the hard it and the soft one.
I hope my explanation was clear enough so that you could give me an opinion of how to solve this. I was able to improve the performance by crating another sublayer but it’s not ideal.
Obviously, this behavior does not occur with the preset the TD17 comes with.
Thank you!
Great video! Thanks
Very informative nick,Im buying one
the intro demo song (that starts at 0:17) was great! is there any way i can find it or download it?
Hey Man, well explained indeed!!!! Thx
I love this Roland TD17KVX! My dream drum set! Love it!
Glad you like it! I’ve had mine for 4 years now and i am just now wanting to upgrade it
@@kedricmanson9873you're welcome, upgrade to Roland KV25 or higher? Thanks and God bless you!🙏🙂
@@armend316 I am currently planning on keeping the td17 module and just upgrading the pads on the set.
@@kedricmanson9873 wow! That's awesome! I'm so excited for you 🙂 Looking forward to hearing/ seeing that soon!
@@armend316 Thank you! Have you bought your drum kit yet?
Great video!!
Very good job explaining.
Hi
Thanks for the review. Which of the three k, kV and kvs is the best with reference to the hihat. This bcos I bought TD 25 k with I guess VH 11 hi hat and its very difficult calibrating n setting up
Whaaaaat?! This dude plays in Big Big Train!! That's crazy. That band kills, Welcome to the Planet is my favorite album.
I liked that intro a lot
Need help!!! when hit assign - hit rim - set sound I want- then go back to kit - the head and the rim have the sound I assigned, not jus the rim. What am I doing wrong?????
I have a TD-9KX2 with the VH-11 HH and additional crash and cowbell. I am considering replacing the TD-9 module with the TD-17 module (leaving all current pads). Good idea or not? Thanks
the enter button in the front should be either above the arrows or underneath...
Can Only one kit keep reverb?
Like roland spd 20
Can i asign two diferents sounds to one Pad? (Exaple tambourine to rim and tom to head) sounds that i choose, thanks and regards
Thanks to help me using my kit. I didn't have time to explore yet. I would say everything's right and this kit is awesome except for 2 things : no, set-up of hi-hat is not easy at all and not accurate. And still about the hi hat there is a huge problem of the pad spinning when you play and you can't do anything about that because you can't block the rod.
OMG the very same nick playing this played with Genesis on Calling all stations tour
Ridiculously excellent & comprehensive demo! In the video around 23:23, am I understanding that the Aux input makes this kit expandable by one drum pad? Could it be a cymbal pad instead? Also, can you recommend some good (plastic head) beaters for this set? I'm thinking heavily of selling my acoustic set and getting this Roland kit, mostly because it won't scare my cat like my acoustic one does; MUCH cheaper than sound-proofing a room. Plus, they're easier to transport and if I ever want to record I don't have to worry about mics, mixing, etc.
Amazing kit! get it if you can, I have it.
Why no one talk about limits of this drum module like playing together 2 triggers of the same pad/cymbal (head - rim) when I do the rimshot properly (rim-mesh) only the mesh sound will come out, if I want to hear the rim I have to hit ONLY the rim. I made several tests with 2 sticks hitting together rim and mesh and they will never sound together. This problem becomes more obvious when you split the aux cable to ad an extra pad, since you can't play them at the same time. Anyone noticed that?
I have an older TD-4 kit and was wondering if this is worth upgrading to? I'm a keyboardist that uses V-drums strictly for recording or laying down basic drum tracks, and (if the beat is too complicated) have my drummer friends come by later to put down a better groove.
Just sold my TD4 Kit, I'm in on this.
Very Great Drum !!
Is there a feature where you can filter the existing drum sound of the song then play it with the drums?
Just got these yesterday, very happy with this purchase. The sounds are incredible and the sensitivity is on point. This replaced my last kit Roland TD1MK, which I had for about 5 mo, before the cymbals gave out on me. The sound difference and feel blows me away. I have a some of questions tho, if anyone can assist that would be awesome. I cannot for the life of me figure out how to properly mount the brain, since the mounting piece is contrary to the mounting piece on the module, meaning it goes the wrong way in order to have it facing u correctly. Also the cymbal piece that are supposed to mount under the cymbal does not fit properly as there are cymbal mounts that are already there that cannot be moved. Also, because this is so much better than the TDMK, Im having problems hearing the music from my IPhone, because the volume is too low to hear and play along with on my headphones. My phone volume is turned all the way up, so its not that. Do I need a better set of headphones? Is there anyway to tweak this, besides turning the volume down on the module to match the level of music? Thanks for any help.
@@williamperri3437 thanks. I like some of the sounds but I’d like to upgrade with software. Any suggestions?
@@williamperri3437 thanks, that’s what I wanted to know. I appreciate that!
The best roland TD kit!! this one and the discontinued TD30 ....
Hi Nick, Great review! Quick question for you...I just purchased this kit yesterday and I noticed on yours there are two cords connecting the ride cymbal - is this unique to KVX? I purchased the KV version and my kit includes only the two CY-8's and I'm guessing that's the difference? Thanks for any insight you can share!
Hey Mark,
There are multiple versions of the Roland TD-17's to fit in the budget for every drummer. Since you bought the "TD-17KV" the only difference is that you do not have the extra cymbal and you have an electric hi-hat stand Which will save you from having to buy a hi-hat stand. In the video, Nick is using the "TD-17 KVX". The KVX requires a hi-hat stand and kick pedal. You can add an extra cymbal in the future. Just contact a Sweetwater Sales Engineer to assist you. Hope this helped!
the kv has the spare cord so it can go in the CY-13R cymbal . + 2 more empty aux/crash 2 .
What’s the best electronic drum set around the $1k mark? Looking to get a set soon. Been looking at Roland, Alesis, and Simmons
NDV, what plastic bass drum beater do you recommend for bass drum mesh heads? I've been using a Tama Speed Cobra with Iron Cobra felt beaters on my Remo Silent Stroke with no issues, at least not yet.
TXMusicDrummer I use the stock beaters on the pearl p932, plastic
Hello, and thanks for reaching out with the question! I would recommend the Pro1V beater. I have included a link below for your review:
www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/P1V4--trick-drums-pro1v-beater
Thanks for the interest, I hope you have a great day!
Ian Lemberg, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1280
Finally sample import and at $599?! I'm definitely interested.
Nice review but I loved to have heard some more acoustic sets. Things like the machine gun effect and also sidestick playing. In general a bit more playing time would have been nice.
Hello Nick, I have been waiting a long time for someone to demo the ddrum Hybrid 5 Kit 5-piece Acoustic/Electric Drum Set - Black with Red Hardware.
Even though has been listed on sweetwater page for a long time no one has done a demo. Please demo using some sound triggers and modules.
Thanks
Great guide! I have a question... You mentioned connecting to your DAW.. I was wondering if the kit had multi track recording? I can't see individual drum outputs... So don't think it's possible unless it's done in a different way?
Hi, Elia! The TD-17 module has two capabilities over the USB cable. First, it can send a stereo audio stream so you can record a premixed version of what you are hearing. Heads up, this is not multitrack audio, but a stereo mix. Secondly, it will send a MIDI signal over the USB cable so you can use the kit to trigger your virtual instrument of choice.
Thanks for the interest!
Cody Kraus, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1766, cody_kraus@sweetwater.com
hang on,.. there only appear to be SEVEN songs to jam to on the module?!
is that right?
on the td9 there were HEAPS.
have i got it wrong somehow?
Hey guys it's "super simple" I think that was the phrase on a big cue card behind the camera haha but still an awesome video thanks!
I need to replace my Roland HD-3 with this new TD-17!
Should I get the Roland TD-17KVX or Yamaha DTX6K3-X ? Which is the best option and why?
Wait so this module can add a click to any track over bluetooth? Was there a catch to this? What about aux in?
Nice demo.
Who knew Jon Lovitz was playing drums now ? 😊
Will this sync with GarageBand/pro tools?
Is the TD-17 Module available as a stand-alone module - as is the TD-25 and/or TD-50?
just with kit i think
www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/TD17--roland-td-17-drum-module
So? If I have a TD11 kit I bought from Sweetwater of course,, can I buy the TD17 Module in the future and swap that out with the TD11 one to get the benefits of the new Module without having to buy a whole new kit?
yes it is apparently
Tom Crawford YES YES AND YES.
At least this one sounds good and affordable compared to their higher end stuff.
What’s the extent of compatibility with triggering computer based drum kits I.e. Superior drums, Slate drums, BFD etc.? There is no USB (or other computer Connection ) besides MIDI?
It has a USB port.
yeah not a standard usb port like the td-11 had :( . Just the usb/midi out port. Sucks they should have left the usb 2.0 in and added the sdhc slot and really upgraded the usb to 3.0/3.1 . would rather use that for external drive/stick/cell etc. Bluetooth is ok for some things but still usb is better :)
YEAH NICK MY MAN
Between 5:08 and 5:10, are those doubles?
Where do we get all the samples from? Will we have to buy the samples from Roland? Or can we get samples online? WHat format does the sample have to be in order to save onto sd card and load into kit? Thanks so much Nick
Hi, Ernie! There are a lot of different places to get samples from. There are tons to be found online, both free and paid. You can create your own if you have a recording device, but currently Roland does not sell samples. As for your samples, you just need to make sure they are in ".wav" format for them to be able to be played back by the sound module. Thanks for the interest!
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There are good kits you can buy at vexpressionsltd.com
WHAT WAS THE TUNE AT THE BEGINNING!?
How's the VH-10 hi-hat? I have the CY-5/FD-8 on mine and I've tried a used VH-11, but I didn't think it worked too well. Maybe because it's old.
Hi, D! The VH-10 is a great hi-hat, and in my experience tracks very accurately. When the cymbal is not working well, it is often because it was not calibrated properly in the sound module. It is a simple process that only takes a few seconds, and when it is done right it makes a world of difference.
Thanks for your interest!
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Rather odd question, but would you be able to mount any of the Roland cymbals to traditional acoustic kit hardware? As in proper boom stands.
Hey, Carlos. Thanks so much for your interest. Yes. Absolutely. The Roland cymbals have the exact same size holes traditional cymbals have.
I hope this helps.
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Nice review but why do they look into another camera while taking?
What hi-hat stand do you recommend for this kit other than the Roland one? I have DW pedals. So would I be able to just use a DW 3000 hi hat stand for this? (I’m not a drummer so I have no clue)
Hi, Asmus. You can use any standard hi-hat stand with that kit, so your DW will work just fine. Thanks for the interest!
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Very thorough demo ,thanks for sharing
I'm looking at getting this model
So are the TD 07 kits out at moment better newer versions?
Hi, can u please demonstrate using your own sample for me. User sample function.
Does it come with a hi-hat stand or do you have to provide your own?
Hi, Cole! The kit does not include either a hi-hat stand or bass drum pedal. So, you will have to provide your own. I would suggest checking out the new Roland RDH120 hi-hat stand and the RDH100 bass drum pedal with the kit. They do a great job of absorbing extra impact noise, making the kit even quieter to play on. Thanks for your interest!
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Nick, will this kit be at Gearfest?
I'm torn between this and the Alesis Command. I'm moving into an apartment so I want something quieter. I know the Command is cheaper but so is the price. I don't mind spending the extra money if it's worth it. So my question is, do you think the KVX is worth the extra money?
Go with the Roland.. I have the strike pro, and it looks great, fun to play on at times but it has tons of hiccups. I played the lower version of this kit at Sam Ash and was blown away at its responsiveness. Sounds were hard to tell because of the cheap monitor it was ran through but I think ran through a good Roland amp it’ll sound good. My biggest issue with Alesis is the cymbal response..they just kind of do their own thing.. also if you play along with music the snare is often triggered. The hi hat on the alesis is a nightmare and next to useless.
Nice Video & informative! Where can I find that song to practice to at 25:10 ?
Nick,you could make a cardboard box sound good- but nice kit!
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Do you think it’s better the TD 25 or this one?
I am in between the 17 kv and 17 kvx, Is there a difference in sound? & does having a stand alone high hat stand makes a difference? and worth £500 Extra. I would really appreciate an advice
I know the TD-17 line all use the exact same brain. You could buy the TD-17KV-L and upgrade it to the KVX simply be replacing the trigger components.
I have discover a way to convert 2box samples ( dsnd ) to ( wav ) iam gonna try them in the td17 module.if that will work, we got some interesting stuff to
Come because if have the complete superior drummer 3 and steven slate drums 5 samples in my 2box drumit 3.
Lets see...
Did you end up getting them to work with the td17? Thanks.
can you have two different audio imputs at the same time, one via Bluetooth and the other one with cable?
Hi, Elsanty! You would be able to use both the auxiliary input and a Bluetooth device at the same time. However, there is only a single volume control that is shared. So, if you were to use both, I would suggest controlling the Bluetooth signal's volume on the device itself and then adjust the master volume that is shared for the other.
Thanks for your interest!
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If you're thinking of buying the TD-17 KV or KVX, one note of caution and something that never gets talked about in official or unofficial promo videos reviews is the fact the tom and snare holders do not stay in position, especially if you're a hard-hitting drummer or you're playing heavy song. It doesn't matter how you tighten them and there are three points where you can, if you play a Chilli Pepper or Rage Against The Machine type of hard-hitting song, you'll have to readjust at the end. If you're lucky maybe two hard-hitting tracks. Don't get me wrong, the kit sounds great and feels great but Roland has really dropped the ball here. I suspect the reason why review sites don't mention this, is because they're getting free kit. Well, I'm here to tell to beware of this design failure. I'm not sure what can be done for the tom holders/clamps/wing nut as they're are made entirely plastic and can only be tightened up so much, which is not the case for a steel clamp mechanism. You can, however, use or buy an acoustic snare drum stand, which I highly recommend.
Banbury Drum Tuition do you think using loctite would work? Or thread lock?
Is there really a need to hit e-drums as hard as u hit real drums?
@@ohioplayer Yes. Plus, adrenaline has an effect.
So which part is causing the toms to move? The arm that's attached to the tom itself or the bar and clamp connected to the drum frame?
I'm wondering if maybe wrapping some Teflon tape around the metal bars where it clamps.
As far as the snare moving. I have not seen a video yet where the snare is not flopping around in some manner.
Including Justin from 65drums.
Do you have yours mounted on a snare stand? Don't the 3 uprights come up past the top of the snare?
Thanks.
@@ohioplayer Can't see a reason not to. E-Drums aren't just practice tools anymore, they have most of the features of "real drums" at this point. Even if you still think that E-Drums are just a practice tool though, you shouldn't have to change your playing style by hitting lighter/softer.