Where Should Classic WoW END?

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ก.ย. 2024
  • World of Warcraft is having a busy year with Cataclysm Classic now in full swing, and The War Within due to release in September, as well as phase 4 for Season of Discovery coming to World of Warcraft Classic. However, the demand for the return of Burning Crusade Classic and Wrath of the Lich King Class continues to, as World of Warcraft Classic now is in the era of Cataclysm. But, why do players continue to ask for Burning Crusade Classic, and will Burning Crusade Classic ever come back? Let's find out.
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  • @SmoothjazGamingTV
    @SmoothjazGamingTV  หลายเดือนก่อน

    Which expansion do you think Classic should end in?🤔

    • @Lotuswalker
      @Lotuswalker หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      MoP. My favorite Raid and my absolute favorite Raid with Throne of Thunder.
      But I wish they change the rep / daily system. It was soooo tedious.
      Cata is absolutely fine and I enjoy it very much so far. We even got our 13/13 HC in our 10 man group last week 😊

    • @SmoothjazGamingTV
      @SmoothjazGamingTV  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Throne of Thunder is great! I mained DK back in MoP so loved running about in Lei Shen's hat. GZ on the 13/13HC too!

    • @theoutlander1411
      @theoutlander1411 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If we're going past Wrath we may as well go into Legion. Whenever Blizz decides to end it though they should offer to transfer characters to Retail, which would be a good offramp into Retail.

    • @WonkieNJ
      @WonkieNJ หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wrath. If they remove the old world what's the point, it's just outdated retail.

    • @luciananujic7550
      @luciananujic7550 หลายเดือนก่อน

      everything after cata is SUXOR BIG TIME

  • @Persepolis-o2b
    @Persepolis-o2b หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    It should have ended at Wrath. "Classic Cata" sounds like an oxymoron. Maybe it's just semantics, but Cata and beyond should have been "remixes." Hoping for some original trilogy rolling progression servers soon

    • @SmoothjazGamingTV
      @SmoothjazGamingTV  หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I agree - I feel the series should have been renamed from Wrath onwards.

  • @Toini01
    @Toini01 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I’d love for them to do a rotation of servers every 4-5 years. Basically release fresh vanilla servers -> TBC 1.5yr later -> TLK 1.5 yr later -> restart. And at the end of each expansion, you get the choice between continuing to the next expansion or moving to the 2-3 permanent era servers per xpac.
    I believe this would be the good middle ground. I’d love to redo TBC personally, but I would prefer to redo it after experiencing vanilla again, otherwise it would feel odd to just skip the old world alltogether after pexing (as if you missed a part of your journey), and the era servers have such an advanced state that it’s tough to get in as a new player.

  • @marcschmidt320
    @marcschmidt320 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Just do the: Vanilla > TBC > Wotlk recycle. Keep vanilla era and wotlk era, where you can dump characters at the end of the cycle. Inspired from original D2 ladder > nonladder system

  • @GothaBillsAndDeath
    @GothaBillsAndDeath หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think WoW players need to get used to the fact this isn't 2004 or 2010 or 2016 even. There are far more MMOs and online style games out there to cater to very specific niches. I wouldn't mind if they just cycle between seasonal experimental servers and have a baseline of vanilla > tbc > wrath as their main classic rotation because I already have other MMOs and games for what Classic doesn't offer. I don't need Classic to change too drastically and I won't play retail because I think other MMOs are superior at the things retail fails at (namely storytelling). The bubble's burst and WoW is less a lifestyle and more of a vacation retirement home to scratch a specific itch.

  • @keelhld94
    @keelhld94 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I know a lot of people say that Cataclysm is when the game changed forever, and they like to group Vanilla through to Wrath as the "Classic Trilogy", but honestly after playing through it all since 2019 I have to say - Wrath seemed to make the most substantial philosophy change. Wrath is considerably closer to Cataclysm than it is to TBC.
    I think the only real arguments to be made for the "Classic Trilogy" are that it finished off the Warcraft 3 story, and the old world remained unchanged (which hardly matters nowadays since people either fly through or skip the levelling with RDF, in-game boosts or paid character boosts).
    If you liked Wrath, then you'll probably like Cataclysm. Cataclysm is just a victim of it's bad reputation.

    • @WonkieNJ
      @WonkieNJ หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's not that Cataclysm was a bad expansion, it just takes away the old world and classic style leveling in it. Just a slow slide back into endgame content is the only content, hurry up get through this old stuff. Buy boosts, get heirlooms, fly in the old world. At that point I might as well just play retail then and wait for a proper classic plus.

    • @keelhld94
      @keelhld94 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@WonkieNJ I agree 100%, but to me what you're describing was pretty much already present in Wrath. Buy boosts with gold, buy boost with real money, or spam RDF, and hurry up and get to end-game.

  • @joshlashley6493
    @joshlashley6493 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    WoW Classic should end in them just having Classic+ and retail one day. The playerbase is divided up 7 ways now and it makes it where you see less people in the world. Having Hardcore, SoD, WOTLK, Cata, and Retail Warmode/Nonwarmode is really going to effect how many people you see in the world long term. They could go up to Legion if they really wanted but I think it would be better for them to cut down to just a Classic+ where they develop new content with the same soul as the original game. If they do Classic+ right it would be amazing. They do need to create a lore reason for the timeline shift. Blizzard can shift patches between a classic version of the game and retail. Two versions would actually be somewhat possible for casual players to play both as well. It's just less echo chambers really.

  • @shanedubiel6874
    @shanedubiel6874 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If you like classic then stay on classic era servers. Simple as that. Otherwise, you will just play each expansion over again.

  • @rockyjetproject1345
    @rockyjetproject1345 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Vanilla, TBC and WoTLK should be it.

  • @Atomos89
    @Atomos89 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Classic wow should have started over at vanilla after wotlk.

  • @bolindow176
    @bolindow176 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Shadowlands Classic could be fun in a few years... Actually, I am not even interested in Cataclysm Classic. It should have ended in Wrath

  • @florenmage
    @florenmage หลายเดือนก่อน

    I loved classic and BC but I quit when classic wrath started.
    I began playing wow in wrath.
    its not a bad expansion but people massively overplay how good it was.
    It had its highs and lows but its so overrated.
    I really wanted a classic + kind of development.
    To bad it doesn't look like we will get that.

  • @moralobjection4836
    @moralobjection4836 หลายเดือนก่อน

    They shouldn't have made WOTLK classic honestly. Then when we hear SOD is basically gonna be wow classic+. We're not excited. It's poorly optimized, there's not enough to make you want to play it as a stand alone.

  • @k9tirion927
    @k9tirion927 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sue me but this opinion comes from a retail player (started in WoD, yes i know), I played a character in 2019 classic until the end of wotlkc and imo. they should only focus on vanilla.
    The main reason being that my daily/weekly gameplay loop in tbcc and wotlkc already came pretty close to how I play retail (just with brainrot rotations), only vanilla was truly unique in that sense.
    I also think people who "hate" retail but play cata and mop are lost, they're crazy similar if we don't cherry pick outlier classes like rogue.

  • @SquiZERGgou
    @SquiZERGgou หลายเดือนก่อน

    If they had anyone with half a brain directing this they would copy Everquest timed locked progression servers and start new ones each years.

  • @rubbish9120
    @rubbish9120 หลายเดือนก่อน

    While I agree classic era ends at wrath, I would say private server metrics demonstrate there is indeed a demand for Cataclysm and Mists of Pandaria servers, I would continue through through WOD and end at the Legion servers, I think some revamping or adding of content to WOD to incentivize people who criticized it on it's release to give it a chance appeals to me personally, but I understand many might be apposed and want it to remain just as it was on it's release. I for one am greatly looking forward to the classic MOP release, and I hope that blizzard adds expansion era servers to TBC wrath and beyond as they continue with the classic project.

    • @SmoothjazGamingTV
      @SmoothjazGamingTV  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah I could easily see them doing MoP Classic now especially after the MoP Remix in Retail. It would be interesting to see if they were able to drum up any interest for WoD, but I personally still think it'd be a hard sell.

  • @spencerme3486
    @spencerme3486 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I quit classic when cata was announced. It felt pointless to keep going with such a miserable expansion coming.
    + or era servers. No point with going forward with classic. It’s done

  • @CityOfRainbowz
    @CityOfRainbowz หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Wouldn’t go past MoP

  • @ceegronlee
    @ceegronlee หลายเดือนก่อน

    Vanilla, BC and Wrath should all have era servers. Save everything else for WoW Remix

  • @Phallen69
    @Phallen69 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    20 years ago

  • @SirSquash
    @SirSquash หลายเดือนก่อน

    should have ended with wrath. cata was the big change that changed wow.

  • @dbmoose
    @dbmoose หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think Wow can basically be divided into three eras, classic comprising of Vanilla, TBC, Wrath. While each expansion did bring some changes towards the retail landscape, the world feel was mostly kept although Wrath was much more endgame/streamlined. The middle expansions Cata, MoP, and WoD, are really the downfall of the leveling "alive world" with much more focus on endgame and other gamey systems with major changes to talent progression etc. And finally Legion onwards represents Retail with M+ and other very retail systems. That being said from a nostalgia point of view it only makes sense to extend classic to MoP. Despite remix, getting a full fledged classic experience for one of the most underrated/underplayed expansions with some of best raids to date only makes sense.
    I do think a recurring vanilla - wrath seasonal server could work, but like other ladder reset systems, unless you bring in change every reset there is player population loss. When Classic first launched it was new, asked for for years, and occured right during Covid when we had ample time, were younger (less people with kids) and was extremely successful. I think Classic v2, a relaunch of Classic again starting in vanilla would have drastically less player population, longevity and engagement than the first Classic go around. A lot of us did the raids in classic, are doing the same leveling experience/raids in SoD again, and a 3rd iteration of Vanilla leveling/raiding just seems lackluster unless there are positive changes. We'll see if Classic + can do that but honestly I don't know what the answer is moving forward.

  • @Dea07thox
    @Dea07thox หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    WoW is old game for old people. So my guess is they will milk any version of the game while "customers" are still alive.

    • @Wraize1
      @Wraize1 หลายเดือนก่อน

      an uneducated comment from an uneducated person.

  • @SolheimGaming
    @SolheimGaming หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    if it stops before Dragonflight I'll be so disappointed :( Dragonflight is the most Classic Expansion of all time! Dragonflight Classic Hype!

    • @SmoothjazGamingTV
      @SmoothjazGamingTV  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Shadowlands classic will be where it's at; Jailer hype, Jailer hype

  • @mwhighlander
    @mwhighlander หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Retail should have died a decade ago, but its player base are some of the cash friendly whales gaming has seen for a long time.
    Vanilla Era is the only version worth playing.

    • @Leeloo-Foxx
      @Leeloo-Foxx หลายเดือนก่อน

      wrong, but ok.

  • @Ins0mnia365
    @Ins0mnia365 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Never likes cata so went to sodf

  • @bangla996
    @bangla996 หลายเดือนก่อน

    what blizz should do but likely wont as its the hardest thing: extend the season of discovery format to all other subsequent expansion while preseving the classic feel of the game. this would entail making large modifications to the subsequent expansions

    • @N_A__
      @N_A__ หลายเดือนก่อน

      What a terrible idea

  • @josephteller9715
    @josephteller9715 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cata is NOT classic.

  • @MrJonHimself
    @MrJonHimself หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I have seen 0 hype for The Woke Within.

    • @channel7zip
      @channel7zip หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      everything i dont like is woke

    • @ricky6608
      @ricky6608 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      What’s woke about it

    • @ricky6608
      @ricky6608 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What’s woke about it

    • @MrJonHimself
      @MrJonHimself หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ricky6608 What isn't?