As a member of the WHP I just want to say thank you to you and all of the truck drivers out there. You’re out there 7 days a week 365 days a year in all kinds of weather conditions. Drive safely and thank you again.....one more thing. I see some comments criticizing your driving. You are fine. If other drivers want to pass you that’s fine. You have your 4 ways on you can drive at whatever speed you think is safe.
Sir, as you’re a member of the WHP I know what you men & women have to deal with especially in the winter season. I’ve been driving big trucks for over 20 years and I want to take this opportunity to say “Thank you, for all that you do.” I know how difficult your job is and the risks and sacrifices you make. Thank you! You are appreciated more than you know. God bless you.
Truck drivers deserve alot of credit for driving in these harsh conditions. To deliver goods so we can buy them at the stores. Thank you for what you do.
I've had more guys on the radio bitch at me for going to slow in the snow and ice but since 1972 I've never put one in the ditch - I'll just keep going slow
li've driven in Wisconsin in storms, blizzards for a lot of years and I learned a couple of things, when the weather is really bad don't drive in it unless you have to, don't tailgate[ actually never tail gate] drive slowly. I can say this through my years of driving experiences. It's always best to be safe. Everyone be as safe as you can, plus if you have GOD you have a lot of help. I ask him for traveling mercy and safety every day.
Drove many winters across I-80 Wyoming. I didn't care if it took me 5 days to get across. I will tell any employer, if you want to drive it, come get it. This happened this year in Texas: the roads iced over and told my employer I refuse to drive. They sent somebody to pick up my load. Hour later, my load I did have was jack knifed in the ditch. They asked if I could go get the load and I said no, the driver you sent who took it from me doing just fine with the load.
Since I blew my shoulder out and have had 3 failed surgeries to repair it I had to retire from the road at the age of 48. I remember about 5 yrs ago coming East on 80 in Nebraska when we had the huge ice/snow storm. You remember... The one where EVERY state in this country got snow. I was empty. It was already sleeting and I was dealing with a cross wind. Had no where to park and could not park at customer. I was doing about 15 mph. Came up on an over pass and kept the speed constant. The over pass was wet. Man the steers hit the other side of the over pass and the ride began. The Werner Truck behind me gave me enough room. He said that I looked like a snake moving on the interstate. I finally gained control and slowly moved to the shoulder and let the rumble strips bring me to a stop. Never saw Werner pass me. It scared me so bad that I threw up. Thank God for my 5 gallon bucket I kept as a trash can. Once I gained my composure I slowly got back out and shut it down at the next Truck Stop. It took me 3 hrs to get from Kerney, NE to Grand Island, NE. Once I got there I had to shut down for 3 days (Company forced). The Werner driver never left me though. Once we were parked I bought the man and his wife dinner. I was a 12 year Veteran of the road when this happened.. It kills me to see these Super Truckers fly in this crap. They know better yet when they end up in the ditch like this they wanna blame the 4-wheeler. I follow several rules in this weather: If its bad enough for me to chain up then its bad enough for me to park it. Never challenge Mother Nature because in the end you are gonna lose. When the snow flies no one rides. Absolutely no trainees in my truck in the winter. If I am late with the load due to a snow storm then just think how bad they are really gonna want to take it off the trailer when I get it there.
I am from Michigan and I hate driving in the winter. I stay home unless absolutely necessary .. especially at the start of the winter when everyone is learning how to drive in it again. I have a full sized pickup 4x4 and I still drive like a little old lady. I CAN'T IMAGINE having to drive a rig in that shit. I would be blowing chunks too if I lost control of my rig like you did. Not a put down, just saying!
MrRadar1967 , Thank you for your years of service. There aren’t enough thanks for the times you pushed through and the unwitting lives you saved by being a professional. Thanks again Driver.
I did over a million miles over the years and was saved more more times than I could count by maintaining at all times a safe following distances, with a greater distances the worse the road surface conditions became. I never stopped for black ice, snow, or rain. I was usually all alone under such circumstances anyways, and even then always kept at least 1200 feet in front of me at all times. If that distances was violated I immediately let off the brakes until regained my required distance of 1200 feet or moved to the left lane. If visibility was low I would always drop my speed to the distance I could see. If I could see only 20 feet then I went slow enough to stop within 20 feet. I always assumed while driving on black ice that I had no brakes! I never got close to an accident keeping those rules under those conditions with over a million miles of driving over a 10 year period! To me all other safety rules were secondary tho those principles. I was always disgusted that those rules weren't emphasized in all the driving schools for 4 wheelers I attended and especially the truck driving schools twice!
Having been a master instructor for the CDL-A in the Air Force and our deployment shelters were multi-million dollar facilities. It amazes me that some drivers think they get better over the years and can drive faster. I used to tell all my students in the classroom that we cannot afford accidents and getting to the destination was priority #1. You cannot change physics and get anywhere faster by using experience to minimize risk. I would also tell them that there is no such thing as driving thru town fast. You take your time to get out on the open road and never, ever be in a hurry. You cannot shrink your truck, you cannot control the weather and you cannot change the road conditions or anticipate other drivers. Trucks are not for speed and they are death machines when not operated properly. For all you truck drivers who drive professionally, I salute you. You save lives, even without realizing it. A shout out to the troopers, as well. They have to deal with the cold, the wind, and the ugly situations when someone gets stupid, both trucks and cars alike. My dad was a trooper and I know he dealt with a lot of horrible accidents because people just did not think very well.
Went through my first snowstorm leaving Cheyenne headed east. I was driving SLOW shaking like a leaf. 22 years old from southeast Texas. Never been in weather like that. Billy Big Rig flies past me hollering on the C.B. to follow him. I didn't. Another driver said I was doing good. Looked in my mirror and saw a line of headlights behind me. Passed Billy Big Rig sitting in a ditch a few miles down.
I was trained how to drive in all types of weather as a former EMT working on an ambulance. I had no idea that I would have drive under these extreme conditions in North Central TX to rescue my wife and daughter when my brother-in-laws four wheeler broke down. Normally the drive 🚗 would only take one hour but that day it took 3 1/2 hours to safely drive with no accidents.
Some people Never learn fast is not always the best .when I was driving I always took it slow on that stuff .it may take a tad longer but you will get there Be safe out there.
I ran I 80 going west on a regular basis and always saw rigs jack knifed during the winter. It becomes a ice road then and demands respect. I see nothing has changed. Retired in z021 and don't miss it!!
Yes sir take your time I-80 in Wyoming is nuth to play with in the winter you guys b safe out there. I'm stuck in California at the moment....keep sunnyside up...
Been there, done that. Ran this road between Denver and Salt Lake 3 times each way a week for many years; running doubles with single drive axle tractors. This ain't bad, At least you can see. The wind thru here can really blow. I-25 can also get real bad over around Chugwater. Drive safe truckers.
Interstate 80 in Wyoming was one of my most interesting drives during Spring Break 2021. I got my Tahoe stuck in the snow off of a country road near Elk Mountain. What an experience.
I've been on this road before. I took the exit through Dayton and went to Burgess junction and worked at the Bear Lodge. Sometimes they have to shut the road completely down. Snow flies in the mountains out west and if you are on a mountain top, you have to stay there. Nobody in, or out, until they get the road clean. With a mountain storm, it might be a couple of days. Plan your trip accordingly.
In the 1970's I was southbound on I-75 heading towards Toledo from Detroit in a single axle Mack R model. The road was so rough with frozen slush I was down to maybe 20 mph. A guy passes me in an Astro cabover just before an overpass. Next thing he is jackknifed looking backwards at me still going probably 50 mph. Lucky for him he only took out some fence and ended up in a field. SLOW DOWN !!!
Let me put it this way. On I-80 in Wildoming snow, wind, etc. Guy passes me and gets on the CB: "Whatsamatter McLane, you chicken?" I replied that yes, I was chicken. So he says "OK well see you later." Later came in less than 5 miles and there he is stuck in the median. So I give him a shout to see if he's injured. Says he's fine so I kept going. He gets on the CB "Ain't you gonna stop and help me?" I told him I could not stop because I was chicken.
@@TWOSU_NEWS I`m not a trucker, but the majority of accidents I see, and bad drivers, are those not American. I`m sure you know the ones I`m talking about.
Actually the companies don't mind, they prefer their freight at the dock, not all over the ditch. I always parked and shot ops. a message why. They always replied let us know when you start moving with an updated ETA.
Good luck with that "park" strategy. Some states in the mountain west you might park for two weeks. That's not at home, that's sitting in your truck freezing your ass off. Damn fair weather truckers; I"ve always had jobs where you HAD to go; groceries etc.
In 2012 I finally decided to retire after 33+ years of driving, 18+ OTR. Due to coming over a rise, overpass, found black ice, vehicles and trucks all over the place and I flipped my truck and trailer west of Rawlins
When driving on ice like that on a windy day, the wind will blow you clear off the road if you are doing anything more than a crawl speed. Sometimes even fully stopped, the wind will still push you sideways clear off of the road and into the ditch. With icy roads and high winds, the slower you drive, the less chance there is that you will go off into the ditch.
My company wouldn't even let us drive I-70 let alone I-80 from November to April, kinda surprised you guys were out there in that. Of course I can remember being laid up on an off-ramp 50 miles west of Laramie for half the day too.
Just subscribed...I know this is an old video but the accidents in winter are scary as hell. At 6:15 am on 12/1/2006 I totaled my car on black ice (we were only doing 20 mph). I was in the passing lane on US 31 with a big truck along side me. We were going under an overpass and there was an exit/entrance just on the other side of it to get off onto I-96 east bound & on to 31 Southbound. A guy ahead of the big truck moved into my lane to let the person on who was entering but obviously didn't check his mirror first. He slid on the ice and went sideways into the cement divider wall and as soon as I touched my brakes, I did the same and slid into him with my passenger side up against his drivers side. A car following behind me swerved to the right and clipped my back quarter panel. I pulled out my cell phone & called 911. I had enough time to tell the dispatcher who I was, where I was and what happened when I saw headlights coming right at me. A car flying way too fast for conditions was trying to get around everyone and he t-boned me. That spun me around twice and flung me off the other side of the highway. My poor car was totaled. I now am disabled with severe muscle spasms in my back that NOTHING has fixed or even helped. I wish I'd stayed home that day instead of trying to make it to work!! NO JOB is worth killing yourself for.
During the winter this is one of the worst routes to travel. I'd haul out of Iowa and run across I-90 and be on the west coast, pulling into Portland, when other trucks were still stopped in WY.
@@beshellagant Winter was a freaking mess, these drivers are balls to the walls and no common sense. They cant figure out why they're in the ditch or running over a car or worse
these days I don't even trust the majority of drivers out here on a good day, so I absolutely refuse to drive and shit weather anymore., Fire my ass I don't care!
My sentiments exactly. I'm not going to work this morning due to a snowstorm and will probably get fired. Its not worth the risk. I'm a careful driver, but its the idiots around me that insist on going 70-80 mph weaving in and out of traffic during a snowstorm
In Washington state, the other side of the country, we have a space between Ellensburg and Spokane that you only drive in the winter if you are experienced enough to know when to pull over and call it a day. Just because it's flat doesn't mean you have more sight then hill sides. If it's snowing, you better know how to handle the conditions. We quit driving to Idaho every Xmas after my parents came across a wreck with the driver dead and the wife very drunk and badly hurt. Turned out she slapped him across the face while they were driving because she was mad at him. My dad called it quits after that and we were driving in a f250 truck with dual gas tanks and a lift because it was originally made for a woman who halls clidedales for a living. I'll never forget going across snowqualmie pass. Snow just like this, they actually had it shit down on both sides of the past, one car was let through at a time. They were given a time to reach the other side and license plate and head count as well as identification was written down for everyone in the car. They told my dad, your lucky your in this truck or I'd tell you to go back home. Problem was our home was on the west side of the cascade mountains. He sent us on our way, only vehicle on the pass, which ment if we wrecked no one was coming for a 30 mins. We made it but two cars behind us didn't make it and took a guard rail out. It ended up completely shutting the pass down for hours because of it.
one of the worst stretches of I-80 in Wyoming was called the three sisters. the first time i drove on them was at night during the winter. i think i left a hickey on the seat.
I used to live in Cheyenne as a home appliance tech. I had to go over that pass once or twice a week to service customers in Laramie in my little 1/2 ton Chevy van. Even slow and steady doesn't guarantee a safe trip. High winds sometimes pushed me sideways out of my lane. Idiots who drive too fast deserve what they get. Problem is they don't always just take themselves out. I had a tucker tailgating me down the steep winding Laramie end of that pass. It was "snotty" ice. The road banks a bit, and my van, being in 1st gear slowing me down, caused the rear wheels to drag too much and I started sliding the rear end and was driving 45 degrees down that hill..., the trucker tailgating me finally backed off and gave me room. They closed that pass and the other route back to Cheyenne cutting over south to I 15. I had to get a hotel for the night.
Some of these guys drive so fast in fog, even throw a mountain pass. I was a kid coming home from state of Washington after my grandmother died in 1983. We going home to Parker when we took the highway from Bakersfield to Barstow.on highway 58. It was night time at the pass between the 2 cities, and the fog was so thick. We had several trucks barreled down us from behind since my dad wanted to go slow and careful. Those truck drivers did not. I am surprised that they did not wrecked in the fog.
I'm retired with 3 million miles behind me and I've always said when road conditions is like this it is the state fault for all accidents. Just shut down the road save lives product and equipment.
He's got it right! These idiots all got what they had coming to them! I don't feel sorry for anyone who wrecks their vehicle because they are driving too fast for the conditions. I only feel sorry for the innocent people they hurt in the process!
the worst are the bull haulers.they drive way to fast year round.theyre so worried that critter is going to lose a pound or 2.if I was in charge of a meet packing plant id rather get a cow or pig delivered to me that's a couple pounds lighter than laying dead on the road.
Ok first lets say your in a semi truck and your going slow on the snowy highway then theres a pile up ahead of you and you stop without hitting no trucks or cars then there was a semi truck that was going fast that was behind you this is the point when you get hit by the semi truck behind you and into the pile of cars and trucks wont you think you should like not go to slow where theres idiots going fast and hitting you in the back of the car/truck think about it.
well for starters,that truck behind me should not be driving fast in those conditions,if I'm going slow and can safely stop,but the truck behind me is going fast and cant stop,then its his fault.
Going to fast that’s all that is slow and easy. I been driving a semi truck for 34 years in all kinds of snow and I never ended up like those trucks off the road and smash up like that . And I’ll tell you how I have done this slow and steady never get in a hurry at any time good weather or bad it’s that simple!!!
The thing is Wyoming doesn't use salt they use sand and it compacts with the snow and makes it real slick like ice. New drivers and yes some old ones think that they can fly on it and this is the result. I always go slow and take my time.
I'm only 59 but I ran Montana and wyoming before the interstates were finished I can't imagine the traffic they have now on the old roads I remember not seeing another vehicle for hours
When you're out west, DOT will tell you to stay on the interstates in the winter. Due to safety, when blizzards come in, many other routes don't even have shoulders. Go DOT. No place to park in whiteouts. No truckstops on these routes.
Couldn't agree with everything more. Recently I heard a trucker interviewed on news who came upon a pileup who said same as you....'half these trucks passed me going way too fast for conditions'.
Nice clear video!.. Not to disparage you or your abilities as a heavy goods transporter.. I thought truckers were "Professional drivers" You'd think they'd understand the simply logic of... "The faster your drive, the less likely you are to arrive safely at your destination". This applies more as the road conditions worsen.
@@BigRigTravels A sad truth I'm afraid. Those under 25 often see themselves as indestructible. Whereas the older, more experienced of us realize. DEATH can and often does come in a heartbeat!!! Even if it's NOT the driver themselves. A high speed (loaded) truck like this usually takes out 10-20 smaller vehicles which can be all the other unlucky slobs in the world, just because.. YOUR invincible!
Speed Kills ! Slow Down People ! And Be Smart, Turn Your Lights On When Driving In Snow Or Rain. Drive with your Full Lights On, Not just running lights because they only light up the front of some cars. With full lights on It will turn on all lights in your car including the rear ones, that way people coming up from behind you may see you somewhat better. Just my opinion and Please Buckle Up and don't exit car until safe to do so. I have lived In a snow state for 55 Years so I think my advice could help someone i hope.
Amen to that, I've seen son-of-a-guns driving around at night on freeways with no headlights or tail lights (not even their parking lights or side markers on) on ar all and they get PO'ed if you don't see them.
I would almost bet this is just outside of Laramie headed east. It's a nightmare during and after a snow storm. The Wind Blows constantly across that road which makes it a lot of fun for everyone
I've been at it over 30 years and still don't drive in that mess. Not because I can't, because others can't, and I hate walking in the cold. So I get off the road until road conditions improve.
@@gmc5426 That C used to be a D and that was a long time ago. It's a rolling prison now if you drive for a mega carrier, I don't know how people eat on them checks.
When the road looks like that it is time to slow down and when you get to a rest area or travel center it is time to stop till road conditions improve. In reality there is always some that don't and some still don't when white out conditions occur. All it takes for a major pile up is one truck to become disabled in the road and a second vehicle to run into the first one. The problem being some don't slowdown even in white out poor visibility conditions.
you'd expect people to have flares/flare gun as a way to signal others... all that snow... no visibility.. no winter tyres....some of the speeds as seen on other video.... incredible!
I drove a big rig thru 70s and 80s running the 48 and hauling garbage to all the markets on the east coast back than we all ran radio we were a tight group today alot of drivers rely on a cell phone to alert them on a 1033 and the rest don't speak English
Know your post is a yr old but amen to that....I hauled a little of everything coast to coast 87-91 until i had 3 guns stuff in my face ... "don't be stupid and you'll see tomorrow" stuffed me in the sleeper duct taped my eye 3hrs later (from time they jumped me to time I called sheriff's) "you are free to go" ...(took me awhile to get the heck free ).... all for a load of wrapping paper.. instead of the furs I should have got but due to electrical problems with the lights they switched me...and they wondered why I told them to stick their job when I was asked "did they get the load"..went home to my 2yr old son and wife.
In my long hauling days they drove like bats out h**l on snow covered I-80..3yrs ago wife and I drove from NC to Idaho to surprise entire family for Christmas...and they still drive like idiots...
Hey got that right accident are bad news in the winter time I remember when I was with my co driver he was better at the snow and the ice I went to bed and was in no care for driving though the snow
Wyoming is notorious for not closing highways no matter how bad the weather is. The only close it if there's a fatality, that's why we have so many fatalities on our roads! I-80 and Hwy-59 are the worst!
A place where the wind never quits blowing and if it snows and is cold the area can really produce a lot of drifting snow conditions, very difficult for anyone driving in Southern Wyoming.
The secret is this, to not look at what the vehicle in front of you is doing but what the vehicles in front of them are doing. Then you see it coming way ahead of time. I don't get why people bunch up when it's shitty out. You'll get in trouble every time.
@waldoisintreal you are so right. I'm a 12 year truck driver with well over 1 million creeping up on 2 million miles and I hate when these hardcore truck drivers say Oh this is good ice to run on. .. It's not that it ain't safe AT THAT SECOND it's 2 miles ahead of you that you can't see that you might need your breaks and you don't have them all due to how fast your running.. Top job to that 2nd abf driver on i94 that did stop before that massive pile up and the reason he did. . He was creeping when he seen the accident and was able to safely stop. Not end someone's short life. God bless
Problem is, it's not a wakeup call. They'll just blame it on you and do it again next winter. See this so much on I90 in Washington at Snoqualmie Pass.
Nice POINT MAN " SLOW DOWN DON'T KNOW WHY PEOPLE THINK ITS A RACE OUT HERE". I drive myself as a fifth-wheel hauler for Dealerships and Auctioning and passing threw any part of the Rockies between November - April can be chaos, people think because they have 4 wheel drive they are invincible,some truckers have a habit of the weight they have behind them on ice think that they call haul-balls, I have crashed once on ice after that I changed my perspective to driving in it because life is valuable
There is NO load worth dying for. I always told my dispatcher that I would do my best to be on time but for whenever I got to my destination the liaf would be 2 seconds behind me and if he didn't like that he could take my keys and do it himself.
This is practically in my back yard. I've lived on I-80 for 20 years. Clue....if the natives aren't on the road, it's probably because we know better! My husband was a Wyoming Trucker turned Heavy Duty Wrecker Operator. It is almost always out-of-state Super Truckers that can think they can drive thru anything!
+Theresa Lush I think authorities play big role here for no closing those roads on those weather conditions, they need to close, then give it maintenance (snow plow, salt) , the reopen and set low speed limits depending on weather
+camacho2 Let's think about this in multiple ways. And we'll start with the blatantly obvious "It's their fault so nobody should pay attention to the road or use their own judgement on safety matters" How about when the beach isn't closed but you didnt wear sunscreen? How about when you are legally able to purchase a firearm but you shot yourself in the foot? How about when ...
+camacho2 What does anyone's government now or in the history of mankind have to with each intelligent person's own responsibility and personal judgement? True, many people are foolish and ignorant... but why are you needing the government in place of personal responsibility and better judgement?
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As a member of the WHP I just want to say thank you to you and all of the truck drivers out there. You’re out there 7 days a week 365 days a year in all kinds of weather conditions. Drive safely and thank you again.....one more thing. I see some comments criticizing your driving. You are fine. If other drivers want to pass you that’s fine. You have your 4 ways on you can drive at whatever speed you think is safe.
i take the train - only fools drive in snow
Sir, as you’re a member of the WHP I know what you men & women have to deal with especially in the winter season. I’ve been driving big trucks for over 20 years and I want to take this opportunity to say “Thank you, for all that you do.” I know how difficult your job is and the risks and sacrifices you make. Thank you! You are appreciated more than you know. God bless you.
I'll never forget what my trainer said a few years back .." slow always wins"
My trainer said "The easiest way to lose time is to speed".
Truck drivers deserve alot of credit for driving in these harsh conditions. To deliver goods so we can buy them at the stores. Thank you for what you do.
I've had more guys on the radio bitch at me for going to slow in the snow and ice but since 1972 I've never put one in the ditch - I'll just keep going slow
Drive to conditions , not because some cowboy races down the highway.
he'll yeah. same here driver. you can never drive to slow on slick roads.
How slow do you go? 15mph
Those yahoos need to be careful for driving in a snow storm like this one
li've driven in Wisconsin in storms, blizzards for a lot of years and I learned a couple of things, when the weather is really bad don't drive in it unless you have to, don't tailgate[ actually never tail gate] drive slowly. I can say this through my years of driving experiences. It's always best to be safe. Everyone be as safe as you can, plus if you have GOD you have a lot of help. I ask him for traveling mercy and safety every day.
AMEN 😊
amen from someone in england
we take light rail or subway - no one in their right mind drives in the snow
If i'm passing everyone and no one is passing me, logic should tell me I'm way to fast!
And if it’s 7 pm yet you’re the only driver on the road....just saying
Taking 6 Shots of 60ml Hard whiskey after i'm gonna Do Drive the car like a fighter jet on indian roads Brother🙏🏻💐
Or if you see two or more cars in the ditch over a couple miles for no obvious reason there must be icy patches.
Drove many winters across I-80 Wyoming. I didn't care if it took me 5 days to get across. I will tell any employer, if you want to drive it, come get it. This happened this year in Texas: the roads iced over and told my employer I refuse to drive. They sent somebody to pick up my load. Hour later, my load I did have was jack knifed in the ditch. They asked if I could go get the load and I said no, the driver you sent who took it from me doing just fine with the load.
Since I blew my shoulder out and have had 3 failed surgeries to repair it I had to retire from the road at the age of 48. I remember about 5 yrs ago coming East on 80 in Nebraska when we had the huge ice/snow storm. You remember... The one where EVERY state in this country got snow. I was empty. It was already sleeting and I was dealing with a cross wind. Had no where to park and could not park at customer. I was doing about 15 mph. Came up on an over pass and kept the speed constant. The over pass was wet. Man the steers hit the other side of the over pass and the ride began. The Werner Truck behind me gave me enough room. He said that I looked like a snake moving on the interstate. I finally gained control and slowly moved to the shoulder and let the rumble strips bring me to a stop. Never saw Werner pass me. It scared me so bad that I threw up. Thank God for my 5 gallon bucket I kept as a trash can. Once I gained my composure I slowly got back out and shut it down at the next Truck Stop. It took me 3 hrs to get from Kerney, NE to Grand Island, NE. Once I got there I had to shut down for 3 days (Company forced). The Werner driver never left me though. Once we were parked I bought the man and his wife dinner. I was a 12 year Veteran of the road when this happened.. It kills me to see these Super Truckers fly in this crap. They know better yet when they end up in the ditch like this they wanna blame the 4-wheeler. I follow several rules in this weather: If its bad enough for me to chain up then its bad enough for me to park it. Never challenge Mother Nature because in the end you are gonna lose. When the snow flies no one rides. Absolutely no trainees in my truck in the winter. If I am late with the load due to a snow storm then just think how bad they are really gonna want to take it off the trailer when I get it there.
I am from Michigan and I hate driving in the winter. I stay home unless absolutely necessary .. especially at the start of the winter when everyone is learning how to drive in it again. I have a full sized pickup 4x4 and I still drive like a little old lady. I CAN'T IMAGINE having to drive a rig in that shit. I would be blowing chunks too if I lost control of my rig like you did. Not a put down, just saying!
Michigan winter night merge I call it the 5 mph state
@@bigthunder2860 LMAO .. how right you are!
MrRadar1967 , Thank you for your years of service. There aren’t enough thanks for the times you pushed through and the unwitting lives you saved by being a professional. Thanks again Driver.
I did over a million miles over the years and was saved more more times than I could count by maintaining at all times a safe following distances, with a greater distances the worse the road surface conditions became. I never stopped for black ice, snow, or rain. I was usually all alone under such circumstances anyways, and even then always kept at least 1200 feet in front of me at all times. If that distances was violated I immediately let off the brakes until regained my required distance of 1200 feet or moved to the left lane. If visibility was low I would always drop my speed to the distance I could see. If I could see only 20 feet then I went slow enough to stop within 20 feet. I always assumed while driving on black ice that I had no brakes!
I never got close to an accident keeping those rules under those conditions with over a million miles of driving over a 10 year period! To me all other safety rules were secondary tho those principles. I was always disgusted that those rules weren't emphasized in all the driving schools for 4 wheelers I attended and especially the truck driving schools twice!
Having been a master instructor for the CDL-A in the Air Force and our deployment shelters were multi-million dollar facilities. It amazes me that some drivers think they get better over the years and can drive faster. I used to tell all my students in the classroom that we cannot afford accidents and getting to the destination was priority #1. You cannot change physics and get anywhere faster by using experience to minimize risk. I would also tell them that there is no such thing as driving thru town fast. You take your time to get out on the open road and never, ever be in a hurry. You cannot shrink your truck, you cannot control the weather and you cannot change the road conditions or anticipate other drivers. Trucks are not for speed and they are death machines when not operated properly. For all you truck drivers who drive professionally, I salute you. You save lives, even without realizing it. A shout out to the troopers, as well. They have to deal with the cold, the wind, and the ugly situations when someone gets stupid, both trucks and cars alike. My dad was a trooper and I know he dealt with a lot of horrible accidents because people just did not think very well.
Went through my first snowstorm leaving Cheyenne headed east. I was driving SLOW shaking like a leaf. 22 years old from southeast Texas. Never been in weather like that. Billy Big Rig flies past me hollering on the C.B. to follow him. I didn't. Another driver said I was doing good. Looked in my mirror and saw a line of headlights behind me. Passed Billy Big Rig sitting in a ditch a few miles down.
WOW ! You have a C.B. ... ?!?!?!!!? Way to hang !!! There May be hope yet . .. . ...
I was trained how to drive in all types of weather as a former EMT working on an ambulance. I had no idea that I would have drive under these extreme conditions in North Central TX to rescue my wife and daughter when my brother-in-laws four wheeler broke down. Normally the drive 🚗 would only take one hour but that day it took 3 1/2 hours to safely drive with no accidents.
Some people Never learn fast is not always the best .when I was driving I always took it slow on that stuff .it may take a tad longer but you will get there Be safe out there.
How slow do you go
Helloo Larry
I ran I 80 going west on a regular basis and always saw rigs jack knifed during the winter. It becomes a ice road then and demands respect. I see nothing has changed. Retired in z021 and don't miss it!!
I drove for 32 years As a professional driver in all kinds of snowstorms, you have to respect the weather I’ve never been in a ditch.
Yes sir take your time I-80 in Wyoming is nuth to play with in the winter you guys b safe out there. I'm stuck in California at the moment....keep sunnyside up...
Been there, done that. Ran this road between Denver and Salt Lake 3 times each way a week for many years; running doubles with single drive axle tractors. This ain't bad, At least you can see. The wind thru here can really blow. I-25 can also get real bad over around Chugwater. Drive safe truckers.
Interstate 80 in Wyoming was one of my most interesting drives during Spring Break 2021. I got my Tahoe stuck in the snow off of a country road near Elk Mountain. What an experience.
I've been on this road before. I took the exit through Dayton and went to Burgess junction and worked at the Bear Lodge. Sometimes they have to shut the road completely down. Snow flies in the mountains out west and if you are on a mountain top, you have to stay there. Nobody in, or out, until they get the road clean. With a mountain storm, it might be a couple of days. Plan your trip accordingly.
In the 1970's I was southbound on I-75 heading towards Toledo from Detroit in a single axle Mack R model. The road was so rough with frozen slush I was down to maybe 20 mph. A guy passes me in an Astro cabover just before an overpass. Next thing he is jackknifed looking backwards at me still going probably 50 mph. Lucky for him he only took out some fence and ended up in a field. SLOW DOWN !!!
Driving in the winter is an art form all in itself. They should teach it in school.
Let me put it this way. On I-80 in Wildoming snow, wind, etc. Guy passes me and gets on the CB: "Whatsamatter McLane, you chicken?" I replied that yes, I was chicken. So he says "OK well see you later." Later came in less than 5 miles and there he is stuck in the median. So I give him a shout to see if he's injured. Says he's fine so I kept going. He gets on the CB "Ain't you gonna stop and help me?" I told him I could not stop because I was chicken.
Good for you. Maybe he got the message.
chris reed , everybody’s heard that story before, been hearing it since 1992.
Always watch out for the idiots that think they know what they’re doing.
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Good job.
Shut up stupid.
Daughter is new Trucker. Going to send her this.
I appreciate your safety conscious attitude...Thank You.
Your video got more views than the intire population of Wyoming
Not all truck drivers are professional drivers.
Not all drivers should be called truck drivers., point of fact...the trucker is a dieing bread....
@@TWOSU_NEWS I`m not a trucker, but the majority of accidents I see, and bad drivers, are those not American. I`m sure you know the ones I`m talking about.
Very true Rick!
robert moir really? How, exactly, are you making that judgement call?
@@xrilander 🤣🤣
I notice I’m driving in terrible conditions. It’s just 7 pm and no one else is out here....get the clue drivers! Put pieces together!
i park .dont drive in it..if the company dont like it too bad..
Actually the companies don't mind, they prefer their freight at the dock, not all over the ditch. I always parked and shot ops. a message why. They always replied let us know when you start moving with an updated ETA.
Rays OffRoad Videos I don’t mind getting late packages if it saves a life.
Me too. Im a chicken, some semi drivers drive way too fast for conditions
Good luck with that "park" strategy. Some states in the mountain west you might park for two weeks. That's not at home, that's sitting in your truck freezing your ass off. Damn fair weather truckers; I"ve always had jobs where you HAD to go; groceries etc.
@@LeFraudHasChokedInSIXFinals Tough guy over here had to get groceries. So brave.
I remember as a teen in the 70’s that everyone had a cb. Why isn’t it required for all semi’s? So sad
@@lisaqmoon1 cellphones kinda took over, I kept both at hand since police and sheriff's monitor some cb traffic
In 2012 I finally decided to retire after 33+ years of driving, 18+ OTR. Due to coming over a rise, overpass, found black ice, vehicles and trucks all over the place and I flipped my truck and trailer west of Rawlins
When driving on ice like that on a windy day, the wind will blow you clear off the road if you are doing anything more than a crawl speed. Sometimes even fully stopped, the wind will still push you sideways clear off of the road and into the ditch. With icy roads and high winds, the slower you drive, the less chance there is that you will go off into the ditch.
These "Super-Trucker" types never stay employed long. Put the pedal down on ice and it's only a matter of time before your number comes up.
SLOW Down especially in bad weather.....go Steve go!
Hellooooo Marianna Texas 🖐🖐
Now that spring has come people don't have to self destruct,,, it's like a miracle that makes cars drivable.
I don't miss those days I used to be a truck driver myself till I retired
I've driven 80 and Snow Chi Mihn many times (I grew up in WY). This brings back not so fond memories.
My company wouldn't even let us drive I-70 let alone I-80 from November to April, kinda surprised you guys were out there in that. Of course I can remember being laid up on an off-ramp 50 miles west of Laramie for half the day too.
Just subscribed...I know this is an old video but the accidents in winter are scary as hell. At 6:15 am on 12/1/2006 I totaled my car on black ice (we were only doing 20 mph). I was in the passing lane on US 31 with a big truck along side me. We were going under an overpass and there was an exit/entrance just on the other side of it to get off onto I-96 east bound & on to 31 Southbound. A guy ahead of the big truck moved into my lane to let the person on who was entering but obviously didn't check his mirror first. He slid on the ice and went sideways into the cement divider wall and as soon as I touched my brakes, I did the same and slid into him with my passenger side up against his drivers side. A car following behind me swerved to the right and clipped my back quarter panel. I pulled out my cell phone & called 911. I had enough time to tell the dispatcher who I was, where I was and what happened when I saw headlights coming right at me. A car flying way too fast for conditions was trying to get around everyone and he t-boned me. That spun me around twice and flung me off the other side of the highway. My poor car was totaled. I now am disabled with severe muscle spasms in my back that NOTHING has fixed or even helped. I wish I'd stayed home that day instead of trying to make it to work!! NO JOB is worth killing yourself for.
Thanx for the video! You seem to be a prudent driver. The video was educational. Safe roads to everyone!
We admire your common sense style. Another great video.blessings to you and yours.
During the winter this is one of the worst routes to travel. I'd haul out of Iowa and run across I-90 and be on the west coast, pulling into Portland, when other trucks were still stopped in WY.
Being an over-the-road driver best rule of thumb be safe, be courteous, keep the left door shut and the wheels turning!!!!
When in snow and ice SLOW DOWN or stay home.
Duh, so much common sense for dummies.
@@beshellagant Winter was a freaking mess, these drivers are balls to the walls and no common sense. They cant figure out why they're in the ditch or running over a car or worse
Big Steve, instead of 5 or 6 days off a month, you should have like 10.
these days I don't even trust the majority of drivers out here on a good day, so I absolutely refuse to drive and shit weather anymore., Fire my ass I don't care!
My sentiments exactly. I'm not going to work this morning due to a snowstorm and will probably get fired. Its not worth the risk. I'm a careful driver, but its the idiots around me that insist on going 70-80 mph weaving in and out of traffic during a snowstorm
In Australia if you pause or slow down to allow another trucker to cross in front of you just flash the headlights and he should move straight over.
On I-80 tonight. Parked early before dark. 2/13/21 .
Load has time, no rush.
In Washington state, the other side of the country, we have a space between Ellensburg and Spokane that you only drive in the winter if you are experienced enough to know when to pull over and call it a day. Just because it's flat doesn't mean you have more sight then hill sides. If it's snowing, you better know how to handle the conditions. We quit driving to Idaho every Xmas after my parents came across a wreck with the driver dead and the wife very drunk and badly hurt. Turned out she slapped him across the face while they were driving because she was mad at him. My dad called it quits after that and we were driving in a f250 truck with dual gas tanks and a lift because it was originally made for a woman who halls clidedales for a living. I'll never forget going across snowqualmie pass. Snow just like this, they actually had it shit down on both sides of the past, one car was let through at a time. They were given a time to reach the other side and license plate and head count as well as identification was written down for everyone in the car. They told my dad, your lucky your in this truck or I'd tell you to go back home. Problem was our home was on the west side of the cascade mountains. He sent us on our way, only vehicle on the pass, which ment if we wrecked no one was coming for a 30 mins. We made it but two cars behind us didn't make it and took a guard rail out. It ended up completely shutting the pass down for hours because of it.
one of the worst stretches of I-80 in Wyoming was called the three sisters. the first time i drove on them was at night during the winter. i think i left a hickey on the seat.
Watching the speed of the trucks going the other way it's no wonder there are accidents. They are crazy.
I used to live in Cheyenne as a home appliance tech. I had to go over that pass once or twice a week to service customers in Laramie in my little 1/2 ton Chevy van. Even slow and steady doesn't guarantee a safe trip. High winds sometimes pushed me sideways out of my lane. Idiots who drive too fast deserve what they get. Problem is they don't always just take themselves out. I had a tucker tailgating me down the steep winding Laramie end of that pass. It was "snotty" ice. The road banks a bit, and my van, being in 1st gear slowing me down, caused the rear wheels to drag too much and I started sliding the rear end and was driving 45 degrees down that hill..., the trucker tailgating me finally backed off and gave me room. They closed that pass and the other route back to Cheyenne cutting over south to I 15. I had to get a hotel for the night.
Some of these guys drive so fast in fog, even throw a mountain pass. I was a kid coming home from state of Washington after my grandmother died in 1983. We going home to Parker when we took the highway from Bakersfield to Barstow.on highway 58. It was night time at the pass between the 2 cities, and the fog was so thick. We had several trucks barreled down us from behind since my dad wanted to go slow and careful. Those truck drivers did not. I am surprised that they did not wrecked in the fog.
I would have parked it for sure!!! Because it's always the other drivers that screw good drivers up!
That stretch is a hotspot for black ice & ground blizzards due to high winds. Ran acrossed there for years.
If a truck passes you on 80 in Wyoming on a snowy day, you can bet you'll probably see them again real soon,
Oh how I miss drivin sometimes..... then I wake up....
I'm retired with 3 million miles behind me and I've always said when road conditions is like this it is the state fault for all accidents. Just shut down the road save lives product and equipment.
He's got it right! These idiots all got what they had coming to them! I don't feel sorry for anyone who wrecks their vehicle because they are driving too fast for the conditions. I only feel sorry for the innocent people they hurt in the process!
the worst are the bull haulers.they drive way to fast year round.theyre so worried that critter is going to lose a pound or 2.if I was in charge of a meet packing plant id rather get a cow or pig delivered to me that's a couple pounds lighter than laying dead on the road.
Ok first lets say your in a semi truck and your going slow on the snowy highway then theres a pile up ahead of you and you stop without hitting no trucks or cars then there was a semi truck that was going fast that was behind you this is the point when you get hit by the semi truck behind you and into the pile of cars and trucks wont you think you should like not go to slow where theres idiots going fast and hitting you in the back of the car/truck think about it.
well for starters,that truck behind me should not be driving fast in those conditions,if I'm going slow and can safely stop,but the truck behind me is going fast and cant stop,then its his fault.
Javon Jefferson : What kind of fucked up logic is that? That's what two lanes running in the same direction are for! Get in the left lane!
MrJayteach
Going to fast that’s all that is slow and easy. I been driving a semi truck for 34 years in all kinds of snow and I never ended up like those trucks off the road and smash up like that . And I’ll tell you how I have done this slow and steady never get in a hurry at any time good weather or bad it’s that simple!!!
I used to run that first wrecker you passed out of laramie wyoming.
The thing is Wyoming doesn't use salt they use sand and it compacts with the snow and makes it real slick like ice. New drivers and yes some old ones think that they can fly on it and this is the result. I always go slow and take my time.
I'm only 59 but I ran Montana and wyoming before the interstates were finished I can't imagine the traffic they have now on the old roads I remember not seeing another vehicle for hours
When you're out west, DOT will tell you to stay on the interstates in the winter. Due to safety, when blizzards come in, many other routes don't even have shoulders. Go DOT. No place to park in whiteouts. No truckstops on these routes.
This guy has a terrific memory and several speeding tickets I bet.
I live in Ohio and we get some pretty bad winter storms but out ODot does a hell of a job clearing the roads here near the Toledo area! Kudo's to them
Couldn't agree with everything more. Recently I heard a trucker interviewed on news who came upon a pileup who said same as you....'half these trucks passed me going way too fast for conditions'.
Nice clear video!.. Not to disparage you or your abilities as a heavy goods transporter.. I thought truckers were "Professional drivers" You'd think they'd understand the simply logic of... "The faster your drive, the less likely you are to arrive safely at your destination". This applies more as the road conditions worsen.
about half of these kids nowadays have no clue about safety. They all think "it will never happen to me"...
@@BigRigTravels A sad truth I'm afraid. Those under 25 often see themselves as indestructible. Whereas the older, more experienced of us realize. DEATH can and often does come in a heartbeat!!! Even if it's NOT the driver themselves. A high speed (loaded) truck like this usually takes out 10-20 smaller vehicles which can be all the other unlucky slobs in the world, just because.. YOUR invincible!
Speed Kills ! Slow Down People ! And Be Smart, Turn Your Lights On When Driving In Snow Or Rain. Drive with your Full Lights On, Not just running lights because they only light up the front of some cars. With full lights on It will turn on all lights in your car including the rear ones, that way people coming up from behind you may see you somewhat better. Just my opinion and Please Buckle Up and don't exit car until safe to do so. I have lived In a snow state for 55 Years so I think my advice could help someone i hope.
Amen to that, I've seen son-of-a-guns driving around at night on freeways with no headlights or tail lights (not even their parking lights or side markers on) on ar all and they get PO'ed if you don't see them.
@@billdang3953 Very true and sad also.
Driver, I really like your monologue & your driving on here ... Alert, aware, but staying loose. Good job.
Riding in a big rig is on my bucket list!
Keep up to great work on the videos
I would almost bet this is just outside of Laramie headed east. It's a nightmare during and after a snow storm. The Wind Blows constantly across that road which makes it a lot of fun for everyone
I never experienced snow fall till now, but surely it's not sounds that easy
I used to run on it but i only did it it was late at night an no one was out basically me . never had a problem.
The average truck driver doesn’t have enough experience to drive in these conditions and corporate America doesn’t give a shit either.
I've been at it over 30 years and still don't drive in that mess. Not because I can't, because others can't, and I hate walking in the cold. So I get off the road until road conditions improve.
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Exactly right Ken...
because others can't
@@gmc5426 That C used to be a D and that was a long time ago. It's a rolling prison now if you drive for a mega carrier, I don't know how people eat on them checks.
Awesome Video!🎥
When the road looks like that it is time to slow down and when you get to a rest area or travel center it is time to stop till road conditions improve. In reality there is always some that don't and some still don't when white out conditions occur. All it takes for a major pile up is one truck to become disabled in the road and a second vehicle to run into the first one. The problem being some don't slowdown even in white out poor visibility conditions.
you'd expect people to have flares/flare gun as a way to signal others... all that snow... no visibility..
no winter tyres....some of the speeds as seen on other video.... incredible!
I was truck driver in USA for Yeas, i now this situation, everbody run very fast for this time, must slow down!
I drove a big rig thru 70s and 80s running the 48 and hauling garbage to all the markets on the east coast back than we all ran radio we were a tight group today alot of drivers rely on a cell phone to alert them on a 1033 and the rest don't speak English
Know your post is a yr old but amen to that....I hauled a little of everything coast to coast 87-91 until i had 3 guns stuff in my face ... "don't be stupid and you'll see tomorrow" stuffed me in the sleeper duct taped my eye 3hrs later (from time they jumped me to time I called sheriff's) "you are free to go" ...(took me awhile to get the heck free ).... all for a load of wrapping paper.. instead of the furs I should have got but due to electrical problems with the lights they switched me...and they wondered why I told them to stick their job when I was asked "did they get the load"..went home to my 2yr old son and wife.
In my long hauling days they drove like bats out h**l on snow covered I-80..3yrs ago wife and I drove from NC to Idaho to surprise entire family for Christmas...and they still drive like idiots...
Hey got that right accident are bad news in the winter time I remember when I was with my co driver he was better at the snow and the ice I went to bed and was in no care for driving though the snow
You nailed driver, just slow down, everything will be there when you get there.
As much as I dislike truckers but that guy in the Chev pickup with camper mirrors wouldn't let the semi move over.
Yeah the old truckers code YOU CAN ALWAYS GO AS SLOW AS YOU WANT BUT ONLY ONCE CAN YOU GO FASTER THAN YOU WANT. SEMPER FIDELIS
Wyoming is notorious for not closing highways no matter how bad the weather is. The only close it if there's a fatality, that's why we have so many fatalities on our roads! I-80 and Hwy-59 are the worst!
Love BRT old school videos!
They won't learn their lessons from this. Stupid people will keep doing stupid things.
I-80 in the winter on a semi is a fun ride
Must be a bad snow storm and it had snow ❄ in my hometown of Beaumont TX too
I think I'll move to Wyoming and go into the truck salvage business.
A place where the wind never quits blowing and if it snows and is cold the area can really produce a lot of drifting snow conditions, very difficult for anyone driving in Southern Wyoming.
The secret is this, to not look at what the vehicle in front of you is doing but what the vehicles in front of them are doing. Then you see it coming way ahead of time. I don't get why people bunch up when it's shitty out. You'll get in trouble every time.
I love the video
@waldoisintreal you are so right. I'm a 12 year truck driver with well over 1 million creeping up on 2 million miles and I hate when these hardcore truck drivers say Oh this is good ice to run on. .. It's not that it ain't safe AT THAT SECOND it's 2 miles ahead of you that you can't see that you might need your breaks and you don't have them all due to how fast your running.. Top job to that 2nd abf driver on i94 that did stop before that massive pile up and the reason he did. . He was creeping when he seen the accident and was able to safely stop. Not end someone's short life. God bless
Sadly, that’s a pretty typical day driving across Wyoming in the winter.
Problem is, it's not a wakeup call. They'll just blame it on you and do it again next winter. See this so much on I90 in Washington at Snoqualmie Pass.
Definitely good to slow down, But not too slow where your causing a cluster bleep!
Nice POINT MAN " SLOW DOWN DON'T KNOW WHY PEOPLE THINK ITS A RACE OUT HERE". I drive myself as a fifth-wheel hauler for Dealerships and Auctioning and passing threw any part of the Rockies between November - April can be chaos, people think because they have 4 wheel drive they are invincible,some truckers have a habit of the weight they have behind them on ice think that they call haul-balls, I have crashed once on ice after that I changed my perspective to driving in it because life is valuable
There is NO load worth dying for. I always told my dispatcher that I would do my best to be on time but for whenever I got to my destination the liaf would be 2 seconds behind me and if he didn't like that he could take my keys and do it himself.
That's smart and I would feel the same way even though I'm in nursing lol
Slow and steady when the weather flies...Arrive alive!
This is practically in my back yard. I've lived on I-80 for 20 years. Clue....if the natives aren't on the road, it's probably because we know better! My husband was a Wyoming Trucker turned Heavy Duty Wrecker Operator. It is almost always out-of-state Super Truckers that can think they can drive thru anything!
+Theresa Lush I think authorities play big role here for no closing those roads on those weather conditions, they need to close, then give it maintenance (snow plow, salt) , the reopen and set low speed limits depending on weather
+camacho2 Let's think about this in multiple ways. And we'll start with the blatantly obvious "It's their fault so nobody should pay attention to the road or use their own judgement on safety matters"
How about when the beach isn't closed but you didnt wear sunscreen?
How about when you are legally able to purchase a firearm but you shot yourself in the foot?
How about when ...
Stephen Black
Being that the case, then we should not have any form of government..anarchy yaii
+camacho2 What does anyone's government now or in the history of mankind have to with each intelligent person's own responsibility and personal judgement? True, many people are foolish and ignorant... but why are you needing the government in place of personal responsibility and better judgement?
Stephen Black
The bridge has collapsed, but, there is no need for a sign...
This is why I Love Driving a Log Truck in Florida.....el No Snow and Ice!