China has been a dominant power for centuries in SE Asia without invading anyone there, unlike the west who invaded and colonized the ENTIRE region as soon as they set foot in the region Also, last time Indonesia ALLIED with USA, 5 million people DIED in genocide. Further tens of thousands in East Timor. And almost 90% of Freeport money went to AMERICA instead of Indonesia even though this mining company operated on Indonesian soil.
Trevor, am a Kenyan and I differ slightly with you. Western nations were the major investors in African countries and their terms were always imbalanced and unfair to us. They interfered in our politics, our social values and economic policies, on top of providing expensive loans and trade imbalanced. Although China is not the best option, it is the better option for African countries at the moment. We started being called "the rising giants" in the last decade just after China increased investments. So, if Western nations think they wanna invest here, let them battle the competition with China.
I agree with you. I am European and have to say: If other fully industrialized nations would have had the guts to invest as much as China did, they would have done. I don't want to see African countries being suppressed by yet another colonizing force, but I don't think for a minute that other countries would do anything else. Might actually be worse. I heard there is a global superpower that likes to make things up in order to outright invade.
I'm Ghanaian and I will take Chinese loans for infrastructure anyday, at least when the Chinese leave, they leave something behind. They even have the guts to talk about taking over airports when the US army is trying to take over the largest terminal in Ghana's national Airport. It's just propaganda, Americans don't know how their government and their allies were treating african countries.
@@MissMoontree That would mean anyone is interested in having truly independent African countries. Let's face it: All every investing country wants is exploit African countries as much as possible. I just feel bad for the countries being in this position for so long now.
No matter how bad what China has been doing in Africa, it's still nothing compared to what France has been doing there since 100 plus years, yet I haven't heard any hypocrit from the mainstream media talking about it.
@GrumpyOldMan Reset point in 1991😂😂😂😂 I come from a country ( Cameroun ) where the president is handpicked by France and the currency is not only created in France but also controlled by them so yeah, 1991👍🏿
I can’t believe how the ones who once established forced labouring and conscripting in Africa actually have the shame to blame the ones who are genuinely constructing that place
Some countries are colonizing another through wars, China is 'colonizing' another through infrastructures. I must say, I prefer the China-way of colonizing rather than... say, the british-way. (I would love to be in a world where colonizing is a foreign word, but unfortunately we live in an awful world)
Nigeria hasn't been able to repay Western loans borrowed since the 70s and 80s which hardly provided physical infrastructures and were mostly purely embezzled while at least we are seeing the direct physical infrastructures being built with the Chinese loans which will surely help improve our economy. The problem is not the Chinese loans but our greedy leaders who agree high loans just to make their own profits from it as they know they cannot fully embezzle the money as they did with the borrowed Western Loans. Don't blame China who wants to do business, Blame your greedy leaders who have high Western Education but greed has made them quite willing to sell their own people!!!
Nigeria didn't have problem with china. UK owes nigeria more than #200trillion and has not yet paid till date. Nigeria only owes china 5$billion. Nigeria still need more of china investment in the country and don't be afraid cause nigeria has enough money to pay them off anytime they want their money back. This video only applies to small Africa countries
I think you said it better ,cz debt trap is not influenced by China but our own government can’t they do proper financial analysis and find best ways to do that,no one is here to feed Africa for free,China has resources to invest in Africa s most needed industry “infrastructure” .Let Africa make sure it’s gain - gain
They did build some infrastructure but it is designed and just enough to extract the resources then transport them to the port to western countries as destination. Gyude Moore talk at Paulson Institute explain this clearly and more
China has no viable recourse ... actually. The west control the financial system ... therefore if you don't pay the west can boycott your country. China can never bomb or invade any country ... let alone Africa that is on another continent ... like the west have done. The only recourse is legal .... but the west control both UN and ICJ.
No AFRICAN country is being forced to accept China’s loans! Why the European countries don’t give loans to Africans? When Americans set up factories China, they also send their managers and technical staff to supervise these factories. That’s the way the world works. Africa may not have the skills and knowledge in manufacturing or infrastructure, so the Chinese investors need to send their own people to ensure their investments are secured.
West is still neo-colonizing Africa today just like did to banana republic, that's why Africa sold natural resources to West for decades but Africans are still starving, why Saudi UAE Australia Russia Brazil are not starving? because they get paid for selling natural resources but Africa got paid nothing, maybe only got churches freedom democracy and military bases.
@@lvjinbin28 I live in Africa...the reason they starve is because their culture does not align with progress in a modern world. Come here and see it for yourself instead of saying things that have had no relevance in 2022 or earlier for a long time now. Africans are their own worst enemy.. Come see it for yourself.
The Truth is if US and NATO Allies spent all the money they spent on weaponizing Africa for decades to instead build roads bridges and railways, Africa would not be needing China now. But US is only interested in sponsoring terrorism (rebels) in Africa.
@@samiraa3671 facts Africa is resource rich but cash poor due to exploitation and poor leadership, which is crazy considering the entirety of 17 and 18th century civilization was built of its resources
@@samiraa3671 I don't see how that changes the immorality of what China is doing. In the end each country is responsible for it's own actions and should not deflect blame based on "but he did it first!". World leaders are not children.
US controlled IMF give out loan with 5% interest whereas the Chinese's loan interest is 2.5-2.9%, if the Chinese's loan is debt trap than what the double up interest from IMF loan will be?
@@zhinkunakur4751 Stole? They're just giving it away. Zimbabwe has no choice but to do it because they kicked out all the farmers and are starving and bankrupt. Black men destroy everything they touch.
Honestly it's not like the west is making the situation better for Africa. At least China's money is developing the continent I would love to hear you go on more about western funded military activity in Africa. We know nothing is for free but at least they are not destabilizing Africa like what the west repeatedly does meddling in our affairs.
100% right. West has robbed Africa of their resources, lands, lives and more over the past 400 years. Has given them back wars, poverty, diseases and many more. Love China, greatings from Europe.
China is doing the same all over Latin America…as a Latin American I am concerned but the US has had a centuries long vested interest in keeping Latin America poor…so can you blame these countries when their neighbor is their biggest oppressor?!
The thing is, if no banks want to give you loans, and you manage to find one that has lax requirements, low interest and willing to lend you some money, is there any surprise that you will borrow from them ? and why should others that didnt lend their money to you complain about it when they are not prepared to lend you in the first place ? Its call a loan not donation, you know the deal, you borrow when no one else willing to give you the loan. And China only accounts for 25% of the external debt of these African countries, only a select few has a China majority debt. China obviously doesnt do it out of kindness, they want you to be developed to side with them politically and trade with them, that is normal with all countries. Why do you think the USA likes to spread democratic and capitalist values everywhere, maintain such a large navy and 'protect' other countries ? is it out of kindness ? No, its for their companies to trade and prosper everywhere. USA is heavily dependant on trade and wants to ensure a stable environment for the trade
What is your opinion about monetary loans? Shouldn't people or nations or banks lend money and recoup off profit rather than some arbitrary interest rate?
Yeah but putting Chinese workers in Africa is unfair cause the whole point of the project is to have jobs for Africans and to make it develop so China’s being really greedy and unfair.
@@jeffharry7079 yes, that is something the African nations should negotiate with the Chinese side, there should be a minimum quota of local workers, although having Chinese supervisor is normal, in my country, it isnt out of ordinary to have Western supervisors for the first few years of expansion in the country. Not saying that having Chinese loans is all happy and flowers, but its practical quid pro quo. Chinese gets their political and trade benefits, African get their money and infrastructure. The infrastructure development should benefit these nations long term. Its far better than blindly providing any aid that channels to nowhere
@@湯米-x1w Now that you bring it up: The terms! That's where the devils hand prints are hidden. A Togolese in the comment wrote about how a French firm will be running their main Port for 35 years! Probably some shady character in France who will not be allowed to get near any port in France! But if he is 'packaged' along with some French Cooperation Loan, who will notice?
Honestly, as an African, I really detest this patronizing attitude toward Africa. Uganda knowingly signed these loans. Let Uganda sort itself out. It can figure it's way out of this. It will have to. I don't think China is colonizing Africa - that is a talking point the western media has harped on to and we are just repeating it blindly. I think China's interests in Africa can be mutually beneficial. What we need are wise leaders.
Well The problem is China is doing this deliberately in other countries as well. It is funding projects in Srilanka in order to gain control over the Indian Ocean.
The Ugandan story is refuted by the Ugandan aviation authority. It ain't even true. The west makes up story and everyone else needs to spend time and energy refuting it. What a waste of time. Meanwhile new Africom bases are popping up everywhere. And 20 African ports are owned by one French man
So true and I agree This guy is a comedian he says everything when he get paid by the USA we as Ethiopian really appreciate what China's doing for our Country 100%
25 years ago when foreigner investors went to China they brought their own management team and paid local people less than US$20.- / month. Today U.S. investors still running the same operation in other south east Asia countries like Vietnam; Cambodia; etc... and the local labors probably get the same pay as Africa labors.
And what happened after? Let me guess, USA took China's resources and China inhereted trillions of dollar turning it into the 2nd super power of the world from a rich uncle. Right? Or maybe China's wealth came from his own people's consumption? America is not a saint country, but at least it has a system that repairs itself and freedom is the norm, where meritocracy can make anyone riches.
The reason African countries cant pay back their loans is not because China set a trap for them, but because the people in government are sharing huge sum form the loan among themselves.
I suspect China's strategy is to pay a large bribe to the president and his cronies up front, on the clear understanding that the project funding remains in Chinese hands, and no one else puts out their hand. That is the reason Chinese projects are completed on time and within budget.
And you will be surprised how much less money China cost to build them than other advanced countries. China is not only providing loans, but also low cost building capability from China. If the loans and projects are provided by other advanced countries, it will definitely take Africa nations a lot more time and efforts to repay the loans for the baically the same constructions.
@@joelau2383 Finding any excuse to exploit the African people and continent. Why whenever China is questioned about their exploitation of Africa, Chinese supporters like yourself always seem to bring up the West as a distraction from the blame?
@@DWEthiopia Because this is how business and capitalism work. The "exploitation" you said is actually called profit or interest. I really don't understand why communism supporter like you still cannot accept the China relatively low profit margin in 21th century. I mean even Soviet Union had a profit margin when they sold gas and fuel to Europe during cold war, right?
@@DWEthiopia to find or read more things about south america,Latin continent, the history ,politics, or colonization please. why didn't those governments choose other loan offer or deal from other countries? i liked trevor since he wasn't the host of the daily show. but he cannot be real neutral when his homeland is involved, so do us. leaders from africa know what they are facing, china didn't do it for free, but it's or was definitely the best choice they can or could accept.
Before you cast judgement on China’s “unsavory” loan practices…the US has mastered this tactic. If you’ve ever seen the outrageous terms and interest rates on those “payday” loans, you know taking advantage of poor people has been in action in the US for years. And it’s all legal. Unethical, but legal.
Lol if we were colonizers we'd have half of Europe, southeast Asia, Africa and South America by now. Except we gave them all their freedom back. Sounds so horrible
Sure. Let African countries stop taking Chinese loans. Where else are they going to go for loans? The IMF? The US? The UK? Gee that's really worked out well for everyone for the past hundred years.
We don't need Chinese loans that are backed by genocide. The point is nothing from the Chinese communist government or any communist government is worth the strings attached.
As an Ethiopian, I believe that Chinese govt negotiates investments with Chinese interests in mind and African governments negotiate with their respective interests in mind. There are potential upsides and downsides to all parties involved and all parties act in their best interests. Calling it new colonialism is infantilizing African countries and treating them as if they have no agency in their decisions. Also, the US and European investment has been incredibly small in most countries and as many have commented here, European countries are still exploiting certain African directly. So comapirng China to the West is a false equivalency. I'm disappointed in Trevor and the Daily Show team. I wont be watching their videos anymore
I am very very dissapointed on you Trevor, if you don't know, don't talk. Instead of agitating the chinese, you are assuming that Africans have no brains on their own to make the right decisions. What had the Western countries done for African Continents besides from bringing sufferings to them. You tell me
The Chinese are better at leading your country than you are. And the Chinese are going to learn what everyone learns about Africa - it’s poor because it’s filled with Africans.
@@yinongxu9355 Tell me about diversity in China, Xu. Tell me about all the diversity you have! Those million UYgurs in camps don’t feel so welcomed, so they, racist.
American companies also fill most of their senior positions in a foreign country with American employees...same thing happens to French, Japanese or Korean companies.
@@snapdragon9300 Why must China train every African in language and skills? Western companies rarely train even their own people domestically. If Chinese debt is so bad, they can finance with the West under more expensive terms. Some of these countries have never been not at unrest, even before Americans traded and sold slaves there.
China was educating about 80,000 African students, and they were planning to take 500,000 until covid-19 broke out. If you want African managers working on African-Chinese projects, that's where they're going to come from.
@@kisol2051 Pacific islands never experienced slavery .🙄They have been a source for cheap labour by New Zealand/my country and Australia since we've been colonized. China as I said, aren't willing to employ them!.look at how China are poaching fish stocks of these nations and loading them nations up on debt. Australia, New Zealand and yes USA all have contributed to pacific infrastructure programs and naval patrols. My country even has delivered tens of thousands of covid vaccines to Fiji, Vanuatu, Tuvalu and other islands. We along with Austraila have done this, and we both have peacekeeping forces in the Soloman islands now because of civil uprisings over their President selling out businesses and resources to China.
@@norman_5623 Can you show us evidence of the education program China was doing? Why then has ASEAN and the pacific island forum leadership complained about Chinas abusive behavior and taking of jobs and resources?
China is playing a better economic game than the western nations. The world economy game created by China is completely different than the colonizations made by the western nations. Perfect example is Greece. The EU and USA didn't care about the Greek port of Pytheous. A port that the western countries and the USA determined unfixable. China went there and now it's one of the most important ports in Europe.
as an African, this is true. they take the loans at the expense of the country then loot the money for themselves, failure to repay is the countries' problem not theirs
As an African, I have to say I don't agree with today's topic, since when did European and American countries get concerned enough FORRR Africa to talk about this on their News, the thing wrong with westerns is that they are faster than a flash of lightning to point their fingers at someone else's mistakes, but don't even try to correct their wrongdoings when told, but rather find a ridiculous explanation to the matter just so you don't believe you made a mistake.
They know what they are doing.. If their competitors find a way to deceive and fool our African so-called leaders.. They point at it so somehow, their competitors are slowed down while they think of another way to go in. Our leaders are the worse...
Trevor Noah is an African soooo it would make sense for him to talk about something like this 🙄 As an American who has traveled Africa it’s so weird to see how much stake China has in the continent. Its weird to see how bad the infrastructure is in the different countries but, million dollars/billion dollar deals are being made with other countries. It’s also weird to see how much Westerners are disliked but our money is always needed and welcomed…Africa is rich in resources that OTHERS profit off of. Don’t be madd at Westerns, everyone just know how to play the game and historically Africa always get the short stick-know thy enemies. What African country would do business with a country where in present day doesn’t allow black people (and NO, I’m not referring to only black Americans) in certain places. Look how they treated Africans in China back in 2020 when the pandemic first started. Stop coming for westerners YA’LL need to do better and protect Africa.
M8 We stopped colonialism in africa Its not like you guys freed yourselves. We teach that as a shame of our civilization today. I suggest to you that you dont point your finger instead focussing on protecting your own country and not just from the evil europe… Whatever tribe or country you are from, its sure to have committed genocide or other evil acts
Dont know what total situation is but 'your bad doesn't excuse my also doing bad' - Africa really is owed reconstruction healing support by the rest of the world.
Actually i am so sad becasuse I watched Trevor Noah daily show for about 4 or 5 years, and so shocked by his point of view. In my opinion, as least China is investing money and bringing resourse to Africa, otherwise we could just spend it at home to improve our own living quality. Why those media are always misleading people's eyes and minds with fake news everywhere, and try to raise antagonism between China and Africa? Oh, I see, it's all about business, and hypocrisy.
We like the Chinese anyway, and no one is taking an airport. The infrastructure in Afrca would have totally collapsed by 2000 as the world bank and western banks were not ready to finance the projects. They said we are not credit worthy, but the Chinese so the way we see it. We have recourses and can pay the loans. China has changed the world order. We are not trapped and we're not fools. African renaissance is here brother.
China is doing to Africa what the United States did to central & South America. The Chilean foreign minister recently said, “when China comes here, they talk about infrastructure and investments. When the United States comes all they talk about is China.
China might loan more money to African countries who vote their way, but look at the 1970s when the vote came up to recognise the PRC instead of the ROC as the rulers of China, America and a whole bunch of African countries it gave loans to voted against it. Thus, did America not basically do the same?
@@chieuleyang6768 why are you deflecting to the 1970's. We're talking about China here and now not the US. So do you want Africa to be in the position that South America is in now after US interference?
@@chieuleyang6768 Don't kid us? The only African countries who voted against China were apartheid South Africa and some minnows. Majority of African voted with China. You remember the infamous racist slur used against the Africans - by Ronald Reagan and Nixon? Africans literally jubilated to see China return.
As a South African, I’ve observed that Chinese aid could potentially be a double edged sword, but still better than the bombs of ‘western assistance’ that has destroyed infrastructure and has taken many a country back into the Stone Age. And I’m still holding my breath for the West to charge and imprison unscrupulous western private sector precious resource players operating in Africa. Infrastructure is a key starting point for just about all countries and it’s coming in regardless of the motivation. Hopefully, with that starting point, African countries can get their respective houses in order.
And perhaps the Chinese are doing this because they truly have the interests of the African at heart. As if there is no geopolitical rivalry between them and the West.
That's how we call "loan" that you must repay. Why does China lend so much money to Africa? Because the western countries do not want to invest in infrastrucure in Africa, they just want to get fast money on capital. Do not slander on China, when you do nothing to Africa but China is buiding.
Where the heck it's the imperalistic angles from currently 21st century structured value political western countries.Are you still stuck in the very past of before mid-20ty century, Mr. Probably an African version of a ultranationalist irrationalis,which many western imperialists were.BACK then ,goes to even the many currently eastern/Xi-chinese ultranationalist to naive to think more independently to their more and more Mao-likevaluepolitical(once again) Xi-regime/Xi-dynasty.Think.about that for a minute,will you??So,give me a break..lol..Jeez. Otherwise,yeah sure to the rest of your statements 🙄🤷🤦😅😉✌🌈💎🌈
@@orkkojit hes probably never been to a Ugandan political popup which guns are involved, my sister was in one when she was in gulu uganda a few years back
I just want to point out countries like Egypt were debt trapped by the UK, which resulted in the British occupation for 70+ years. It happened before and is happening now. It is not new.
The problem is no country is willing to invest in Africa with no strings attached, when plenty of countries can afford to do so and it would obviously have positive long-term effects for everyone
@@sumeersamarat706 As many natural resources come out of Africa, she could sustain on her own. But as we all know this is political and greed on all sides!
@@t.l.5755 It is not like only china is investigating in Africa. Turkey spends over 30 billion. India has massively started investment in Africa. Japan also invest a lot in africa. The more countries start investing the better options Africans will get.
Bottom line being, the West in general and the US in particular doesn't have a right to tell Africans with whom they can and cannot do business. If someone else offers a better deal, of course they would choose the better deal. You have to imagine how awful the West has been in Africa so far, to the point that supposedly uncivilized countries like China and Russia are embraced as a better alternative.
@@frostylunetta It's much more difficult to get into China. African coming to the West may be feeling Western backed dictators in their own countries, or poverty created by Western exploitation.
I am a bit confused to be honest... according to the video, China has provided loans to struggling countries in Africa with as low as zero interests, other countries didn't even bother considering to do the same thing because they think it will be just a waste of money. Would it be better to just not lend the money to Africa and let them be? Not to mention that these money are going to infrastructure projects which will really benefit the country in the long term... As for taking away the assets when a country can't repay the loan, I haven't seen any news reporting any actual case that occurred, but even if it really happened, isn't it a common practice to give the lender your asset in exchange of the unpaid debt? I am just really confused, hope someone with more insight can answer.
Basically, China took an advantage of the African countries’ vulnerability. They knew the countries couldn’t turn down the loans that would improve them, and they also knew the countries wouldn’t be able to repay the loans. So they gave out the loans with the intention of ultimately taking over land and natural resources, not necessarily to help africa. This is evident by the fact that they rather bring Chinese workers to work on projects than hire local Africans for the projects. It’s terrible, their taking an advantage of these African countries that have already been through sm
@@geryhabul8923 if the terms are bad, then don't take them no matter how attractive it is? And why in the first place "the countries couldn’t turn down the loans that would improve them"? Is it because western nations don't care about Africa to offer improvement or that they attach too much political strings which then drove the leaders to choose Chinese investments instead? And why Africa needs so much investment to improve itself? Isn't it because western colonialism in the first place? These are the causes, China is the effect.
Ok, here's the best way I can explain it: You go to a lender for a car loan. You can't find a decent-paying job so you default on your car loan. The lender says, "No problem. If you never shop at 'X' named grocery store again, we will forgive your car loan". Debtor says, "You got it. 'X' grocery store goes out of business, the lender brings in 'Y' grocery store (which they have a financial interest in), & the cost of the debtor's groceries skyrocket which in turn chains him/her to a financial treadmill for life.
The truth is our leaders make those deals. China comes and does shady jobs. Many in the government squander that money so in the end what we can see is the shoddy work the Chinese did!!! So there is no money to payback the debt as the money wasn't used to generate any income. In the end, you have a man surviving on less than a dollar a day, having to pay 16 to 24% in retail taxes just to buy basic stuff. Did I confuse you more? Hope not.
As someone who's spent most of their life in Africa, I have to say this is a very shallow take on the issue. It's cool that you're covering it I guess, but you could have made much better use with 13 minutes. Africa will be the literal and financial fuel for this "4th industrial revolution" we keep hearing about and all the major players have been doing whatever it takes to stay competitive. America has probably been the biggest player in this. Starting wars, funding rebellions, killing those influential individuals who call for financial independence and vertical integration of industry. Once the country has been ravaged beyond repair, armies of corporations come swooping in to pillage resources as they please, while taking all the large contracts for development which are themselves funded (through loans) by the large American banks. Then France takes a turn, then the U.K., then Israel, and on and on and on. The Berlin conference is when the world's most powerful western governments decided Africa would be a necessary sacrifice to achieve greatness and prosperity. Eventually, China got wise and the race was on.
Yes. The West uses the IMF and World Bank to impose loans with conditions that hurt the ordinary workers, the 99%. Conditions such as requiring they grow crops for export -- not for their own food (and only import their own food). China builds infrastructure and employs many local residents. America and NATO use democracy-bombs to get their way. Given world history in comparison to this present moment, it seems clear why Africans would rather deal with the China.
@@Unfamous_Buddha on the surface of it, going with China seems like a no-brainer. Unfortunately they rarely follow through with their promises or give fair compensation. Though they definitely train more local workers, which I suppose is a positive.
@@user-xr4fw1se9q -- So you say. But right now, would you as a third-world citizen, prefer infrastructure being built or democracy-bombs being dropped on your infrastructure (along with innocent civilian being slaughtered)?
@Proud Mary that's cuz the colonial powers made sure the "democratically" elected goons are loyal to their regime of exploiting the resources of Africa on the cheap.
@@k8p666 exactly the continent has been pillaged by Europeans and Asians (including Arabs) for centuries! The continent is rich in and of itself, but white supremacy has deliberately convinced them otherwise. This is a concerted effort to exploit the land and people.
He's just an ignorant comedian who knows nothing about geopolitics but wants to chime in by parroting statement department propaganda. Stick to comedy Trevor, even if you are not that funny.
Speaking of death, how do people feel? Don’t forget that when the Ebola attack in Africa, some people ran away very quickly. People who shouted human rights and freedom every day ran away first. Chinese doctors did not run but persisted to the end, this is a cultural difference
How's that working out with Covid-19? How helpful has China been, withholding information about the virus and silencing those who tried to make it known. You can be selective all you want in order to make your point but China is no saint. If you want to shackle the next few generations with a lifetime of debt then at least be honest about it
I like how the leap is made from “China may take an airport in Uganda” to “China is colonizing Africa”. I don’t think people fully understand the extent of exploitation present in European colonization of Africa.
I agree but just because he says colonization doesn’t mean it’s EUROPEAN colonization. Obviously there are still effects of European colonization but (there could of been given more context) if you have followed Chinese and middle eastern movement in Africa there are aspects of colonization that are being mimicked like extraction of resources and labor
@@MuhammedChand are you daft? Nepal is the latest example of how china uses money and ideology to destroy a civilization....Nepal and Sri lanka are struggling to get away from the red fasicsm...CIA under biden cant even keep peace in its own country...the days of such coups are over for CIA....where are China , they have been playing a different war by using banks,media,ngos and celebs with dying careers ...
I'm from algeria.... At least China don't start wars and destroying countries like USA did and still doing if u ask any african to choose between china or us and western countries 150% of them will choose china....Chinese r always welcome in Africa
well said. Japanese were brainwashed by their own government about China before WWII and Germans were brainwashed by their own government about Jews before WWII. Now the US government and its media are brainwashing people about China. America is leading the world down a very dangerous path. We've seen the war on Afghanistan using WMD pretext. In contrast, many Chinese people love America; they go to America for work or study. America used to a pillar of democracy for the world but it has changed.
Trevor, let's be honest here, it's not like the EU and USA are going to build anything over there. It's up to those African leaders to properly negotiate the loans and subsequently manage their affairs so they can be repaid. (instead of sending their families to Paris and Milan on shopping sprees). The Chinese are looking out to protect their interests and exposure, so should those African leaders. If anything, i blame those well educated African leaders who should know better for not performing their due diligence.
@@H3LLS4NG3L So, can you explain your own sophisticated take on the world? What @najee2 said is true. You cannot imagine the amount of corruption going on in the majority of these African countries. They take on all these Chinese infrastructure projects so that they can turn around and tell their fellow countrymen; hey look, we are doing things. But the common person there is unaware of the egregious terms and conditions of those loans. Meanwhile the same African leaders will send their kids to study in Europe and America, go abroad for medical treatments, and vacation overseas also. Heck, some will even fly business class to go watch Barcelona or Chealsea FC play. Meanwhile their stadiums back home are crumbling. It is up to the African leaders to build their countries from the bottom up, and not turn to shortcuts. This idea that Africa is weak and so must be eternally aided must stop. If Africans cannot stand up for themselves, then no one will. By the way, just a few decades ago, Chinese people were dying of starvation. But now China is one of the biggest economic powers. Why, because they decided to stand up for themselves. If they didn't, they'd still simply be the world's factory. But China has decided to unabashedly copy western technology and make some of their own. And it is working for them. The lesson here is that Africa can do things for themselves if they set out to do them. Not waiting on the next colonial power. First it was the Europeans, now the Chinese. Who will be next: The Arabs?
Lol, they know exactly what they’re doing, they simply don’t care cuz it doesn’t affect them personally, they’re rich beyond the 3rd generation and their kids usually don’t even stay in Africa, those leaders are simply businessmen and they pass down the sufferings to the people. They’re selfish and cowards and most of them if not all of them are sociopath and psychopath ( no feelings at all, no emotions) how can you live in a gold house when there’s no clean water no electricity and roads to the next town and you’re in charge, only socio/psychopath can sleep at night on those conditions 🤷🏾♂️ and that’s not only in Africa, almost every Black Country on earth got the same problem and don’t tell me it’s the whitemen, sure he doesn’t really help but the blame is 80% on us and I don’t see this ending anytime soon
according to Chatham House, in 2024 Chinese loans account for 12% of 90% African countries external debts, while western private and public debts account for 70%.
My father, as an employee of a Chinese company, spent 7 years from 2002 to 2009 in Benin, running a sugar factory. I have watched the tapes that recorded how they started all of it from building a factory in the middle of nothing. They spent years making the factory work and offered thousands of jobs to locals. They spoke French, because Benin was colonized by France since 19 century, and worked with locals. It is a win-win thing. I don't understand why Chinese companies are always condemned as forced labor or invasion. What Chinese companies do is just the same thing those US companies, like NIKE, APPLE, TESLA keep doing in China for decades. Do they pay the same salary to Chinese workers as they pay the American managers? The Americans don't even speak Chinese to the workers. And you call it NEW colonization but ignore the fact of the establishment of US military bases all over the world? Great one.
@@joshbrown7050 Yea, right after you robbed someone then you start saying robbery is a crime and everybody else should stop lol. How convenience. I will do the same as I was treated, I am not saint, if ppl fk me up before, I will fk someone up as well when I grow up.
Am so proud in all the comments most Africans are calling out the West(they been doing that for centuries) and blaming our leaders. Trevor has really become American.
You guys will be singing a different tune a decade or two from now and calling on the West to help dig you out of the deals you made with the CCP. Please remember your comment once this happens.
Wait.... are you saying someone in this world is giving away loans, send you their engineers, share their technology, train your workers to build infrastructure that will create jobs, make life better for everyone while circumventing local corruption to guarantee timely delivery, all without interest and collateral attached, and not even going to pressure you to repay? What a sucker!
Look here you all black mix race of African continent, if you starts thinking about your own people and let's letting all of greed's monsters robbery your children and your families, you can take cares of your own people and continent. Firsts of all, these forestness doesn't have any things to us blacks people, that name's of that old games they playing on a lot of us and others who's not able too uses they common senses and figure the people deserve to have it for themselves. Wake up your people, you cannot keep on giving what you don't have enough for your own people. Build more schools and days cares for your generation and have more younger people too helps them learning ablity, how to work into new of skills of this days of ages, but don't forget the oldest tradition ways, because you can get caught into modern day and when disasters entered back into our life, we doesn't seem to notice them, forget how takes of it. If you can how's protect your own world or homes land. The things those others countries, they don't want African black too be over anything's, but wants to be over your continent, as of leaders. Carefully how you makes agreement with others continents. You all people, just have a very, very blessed Happy New Year to world. Love , peace . Ms. maryagee1940@gmail.com
Well said! It's because of Chinese direct involvement in these projects that they do get completed in a timely manner and within budget. The railroad built in Kenya had mostly Chinese supervisors but all the laborers were locals but you wouldn't know it by watching these western propaganda shows.
Amurica: China only wants your resources! Africa: that what you wanted, too, how's that different? Wait, there is a different, China paid for it, and you just took it by force! Amurica: debt trap! Africa: the debt came from infrastructure that is crucial to our future, and China gave us the best solution with best price. Without China, our debt would be much higher! Amurica: but you can't afford to pay and you'll lose your sovereignty! Africa: China's loan came with much lower interest! And when we can't pay, China will restructure the loan, at time even write it off! Unlike the West, you'll force us to pay with our most prized assets the moment we couldn't pay! Amurica: but based on our research, Chinese debt is a trap! Africa: so far our GDP, our life expectancy, our living standard have all improved since we dealt with China, so enlighten me with the "trap" please. Amurica: just believe me, it's bad! Africa: the last couple of times we choose to believe you, many of our people died! Wrote by Simon King
I love your shows Trevor's. But that's not the angle we should be looking. First, debt is never a measure of progress. Japan has 237% dept to GDP ratio yet its one of the most advanced nations. Secondly, Africa has had over 60 years of close ties with western nations such as US and and Britain. Yet, we have struggled so long with poverty and infrastructure. China may have a political agenda, but at least we have global-standard railways, roads, electricity, water supply. Western style is simple: KEEP THEM POOR AND DEPENDENT. Chinese is also simple: MAKE THEM WEALTHIER BUT INDEBTED. I'd choose the latter anytime.
Exactly!!!!! When we invest in something, we aim at profits. When China spent a lot of money, they didn’t really expect to have profits, the main reason is to help African people to get out of poverty , which can maintain the world peace. If there’s anything in return, there would be some political support to China, which makes a better balance of the world super powers and development of all the countries. China knows very well, if you want a place to be wealthy, first you build a road. This episode is such a disappointment, cause you don’t see the significance change for the African people. Instead, you are calling the helper a bag guy. What’s the purpose? Do you prefer African people to be poor and always depend on the western countries?
China invests about 100 billion dollars in United States. In contrast China invests about 8 billion into the whole continent of Africa.... Yet western news outlets whines about how China is handing out money to Africa....
What China is doing is actually building their consumer as they get wealthier. The Chinese Xiaomi phone and cars are very popular in Africa because they're affordable.
The USA, The UK, and France are funding wars to take the ressources without paying. They literally destroy Libya. The USA is extracting minerals ressources in DR Congo yet that country is not benefiting anything.
Right, the Chinese are working in construction areas in Africa but u will never see not one white person in construction area after exploiting the continent for centuries.
By stealing it outright and pushing propaganda about "helping" and whatnot. The usual white savior complex bs. The same way the US became a country at all lol.
@@vsh137 it makes me sick the way the USA abused Guam citizens. I hope one day they finally make right the terrible abuses they put on those amazing people. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_testing_at_Bikini_Atoll
The west owes African countries loads of money. Their influence has done nothing for Africa whereas at least China is getting something done for African countries.
In my opinion, bringing more jobs to other countries, improving infrastructure, and improving the economy of these countries is far better than starting wars all over the world, destroying other people's homes, and letting the world be in chaos all the time for their own (dollar) interests.
Except half the infrastructure China has built was with cheap products and the concrete and roads are already breaking down and it hasn't even been 20 years yet
I think that’s a little naive way to view this situation. I mean of course it’s better than starting wars, in the first place, but to put other countries into a situation of long term dependency trying to exploit their weak position, that’s not exactly peaceful either.
Well the reality is that China built more roads, rail roads, ports, air ports, dams, power plants in the last 30 years then US and Europe had done in the last 150 years. Am I right. And they don't make you make Chinese your official language.
@@markthatcher9925 And Yet... Africa is doing better in the last 30 years with the Chinese then the last 150 years with the US and Europe. That is for sure!
Workers getting treated differently because of where they are from happens in a lot of places. Come to Hong Kong and see it for yourself. Western people gets paid much more than the locals even when they have similar education and credentials. These so called “expats” gets paid handsomely plus allowance to do a job other locals can. But because the companies are from the west, they feel the need to send over some one of their own to “offer international perspective” or to ”supervise” the local people
Hey, Trevor, why don’t you talk a bit about French neocolonialism in Africa? Or the IMF? There’s a reason African countries are choosing China over the West.
@@wyclifmurungi772 they can repay it but they are too lazy and corrupt. If you have debt, you have to work hard to repay it. It is their decision to take the loan. China didn't force them.
What do you think US economic sanctions are for? They are meant to strangle other countries to keep them in line, and they are very effective. The US doesn't have to depend on loans
@@RabidFlamingo not only economic sanctions. The US is employing gunboat diplomacies since the beginning of 20th century. American companies exploited south american and Caribbean nations with gunpoint of american military.
@@aaj3683 If that was true, there wouldn't be countries controlled by communist dictators like Venezuela & Cuba. Or strong socialist countries like Ecuador, Cuba, Bolivia, San Salvador, & Nicaragua. The US doesn't do business with Venezuela for obvious business, they pulled out or some kick out. The US is opening up with Cuba, slowly of course, but there is no economic sanctions with the rest of the Latin American countries You can blame the US, but from where I have seen personally living in Mexico, it's been corrupt political members in many Latin American countries. Easy to blame, but when will we take responsibility of what we do to ourselves? Many are keeping an eye on the US, hence why the Chinese are easily moving in.
Ah yes, China invest 300B into building infrastructure and megaprojects in Africa. Thus far, not a single government project has defaulted without restructuring. No debt-equity swaps have occurred. Once the projects are built, local workers are trained up to maintain them. The infrastructure belongs 100% to sovereign governments in Africa. This has been accomplished with less than 20% of Africa's total debt. Somehow these deals = colonialism?
Nigerian here, let me say this we take billions of dollars in loans yearly and most of it is taken by corrupt politicians it's like the new normal. Borrow money every year with little to show for it Don't blame China, I don't think we even have plans to repay them loans
Just write a check to your Prince and send them all of your personal information then he'll fix the problem for you. I know because he sent me an email explaining how it works.
Sounds about right. Countries in Africa, just like anywhere else in the world, including the U.S, have politicians that truly only care about what profit they are able to get. Caring about the people & the progression of the country is the last thing on their minds.
This is disgraceful, Trevor. China as you said is the only one willingly to invest in Africa at interest rates so ridiculous that nobody else would do it. Yes its for soft power but at the very least Africa has on-going infrastructure, which it so desperately needs to modernize its society and economy. China does have its interest in Africa but what it does differently is to use economic instead of military methods, because China wants Africa to prosper long terms so in turn China can prosper, no Chinese business man wants thier potential customers to fall into poverty, its not the Chinese ways of doing business. We don't rob, steal, or bomb our way into success, we create business opportunities for all.
I agree with you, I think if the china can help, all Africa should GO for it ! because tomorrow we never know who will be willing to help. Africa just need experts in front of the deals... especially to deal wisely about infrastructures and fabrics! BCUZ We need to understand most of the African countries are still very young, and their leaders just want to corrupt or CHILL.. they think war its over!
@@sawlty-suite5131 This is why i dislike the main stream media, they tend to over simplified things to create a misleading narrative for its viewers. Lets go with Sri Lanka port, first off its not owned by China it was lease for 70% stake for 1.2B dollars for 99 years. Prior to the hand over, the management of the port was by the Sri Lanka Gov which did a bad managing it. The total foreign debt owed to China by Sri Lanka is 10%, so how it is a debt trap? Stop taking one narrative as the single truth. All I ask is critically analyse everything you hear
The West to Africa : "When the Missionaries arrived, the Africans had the land and the Missionaries had the Bible. They taught how to pray with our eyes closed. When we opened them, they had the land and we had the Bible." - Uhuru Kenyata - China : "Whatever you are selling, I like it I pay for it". - just that simple -
China pay for what lol ? They are busy taking our land from us. China worst than any other nation. Chines hate dark skin people with a passion. Africa better wake up. Your dark skin is why they hate us so much. Bleaching will not solve it. 😂 just learn to love each other and build a better Africa. Never focus on hate and negativity. Problem solving is what we should be working on.
*Here's a question for Trevor : How many African countries have been INVADED by China in the last 50 Years ??? Then ask how many have been INVADED by the US , Britain , France , Portugal, over that same time period ???*
Hol' up. China actually built the infrastructure and made sure it was up and running, instead of saying "here's the money, it's your responsibility" and just waited to be able to allow private companies to swoop in and "privatise" government assets when they failed to execute and generate a profit. Is that.... worse? As opposed to European nations who just extracted and are still extracting to this day. The locals have to thank them for teaching them the Dutch, French and English languages though. Should help them get a job in Europe.
It's a sticky topic for sure my guy. By definition, if they were to take over the airport it would become a colony of China (a portion of land outside of a country belonging to said country). It's also not a situation if what China is doing is better than what the west or Europe has done, it's the fact that external powers are still exploiting Africa. China does mineral exploration and exploitation, so I would not be surprised if the airport was built so to easily transport raw materials. In the short-term, sure what China has done has been beneficial. But this will be transient once China has got what they want or if Africans cannot maintain the infrastructure.
@@euunul no, maybe there’s some other imperialist label you can put on it, but that’s not the same as chinese state owned companies taking over national infrastructure.
It’s insane how much of what Trevor saying is inaccurate. Much of the academic community focused on China-Africa relations has been upset with how immaculate this video was
China is a blessing for Africa. Africa is lucky if ANY country is willing to invest and work in Africa. Consider it a blessing. All others have left and won't return. Corruption everywhere, lazy people. Africa will never catch up with the world or improve without someone else driving progress or any action for them.
It is not amnesia, it is a superiority complex, and a bit of a jealousy. Basically if it is not US, then it is wrong if other country dare to do the exact same thing!
The USA has a long history of gaslighting and instilling a since of inferiority in its Black population. Its somewhat convinced tje world but to a less successful extent. It's a Nation that can't be tall unless there's someone on thier knees. Target no 1 African people. Target no 2 the poor. Africa figured this out long ago of Western obsession of denigrating and slandering of sub Sahara Africans so they pulled away and choose China. The Airport seizures and port captures have been debunked by articles and videos of people who are unbiased and understand what is actually going on. Economic trade, business, and international allies is what China is seeking. They aren't innocent but there's no colonization or takeover. Africa keeps Chinese engineers and builders employed as China hit a building saturation point around 2010. A black face is ment to make it believable. Trevor your great but this one I can't ride with you.
That was my question. Why does Africa need the money. Why is Africa allowing these international countries to usurp their resources? Why can’t Africa be self sufficient?
Africa has not allowed anything, It is reestabling itself from the ruins of colonialism. Africans now understand their voice matters. That is why they have stood up and make a decision to choose China and now the colonial countries are complaining. Africa is uniting and moving ahead.
Africa does not need money from western countries, in fact aid has done more damage to Africa. Technology, Education and is what it needs and they have been developing to that. Cz it has resources and no technology/machinery to get the resources. That is Why leaders like Mandela emphasized on Education. Not that Africans are illiterate. The world system is a bit westernized. I think Africans are very smart,cz they learn their education and also foreign education which most Europeans and western people never learn beyond their own and stick to their continents.
Roads , bridges, railways ,ports , airports etc. These infrastructures are the very foundations of economic development. You don't talk about how important these things are to African people but focus on the how China can get influence by assistanting African? Isn't it ridiculous?
@@GoGoPooerRangers Except it's not the truth. The lender will not become the landlord. You still own your asset, building and land. But you sign the contract of its management to the lender for certain period of time. The more money you owe them and can't afford to pay, the longer time of the contract. Is it fair ? Well, you tell me. Do you prefer to have something or nothing at all ?
These roads and infrastructure projects are built so that Chinese companies can extract resources from these countries as efficiently as possible. You really think that these massive railways and ports are meant for regular people?! lol
My friend from Ghana said China has improve vastly their economy and everyday live that he wants to move back because the quality of life if better there than in the USA. I don't blame him.
I know that the Chinese are often very strict bosses. But I also know that they are 100 times fairer in Africa than the imperialist warmongers from the west. China is also the country that accepts the largest number of African students in the world at its own expense.
@@bubbles3042 that is dumb. China educates those African students so they can go back to Africa to better manage businesses. you have no clue. do you even know an AFrican?
@@Amidat yes I do know some Africians n worked with them. They were just glad to be here. They are very kind sweet people who would rather be in a truly free n prosperous country of there own. They know very much what chineese trap is all about.
@@bubbles3042 Slaves. Wow that reminds me of American's history and africa's colonialism by the west. Don't forget what Belgiums did to the people of congo. More than 10 million african was killed during Belgium's colonization of Congo. There are even more story than this but we can just leave that for now.
Atleast other countries are getting infrastructure from China loans look at the countries that owe western countries loans have no infrastructure and they are dirt poor but the western countries own all the mining companies plundering the resources and they regulate African minerals.... Nigeria should be the richest country in Africa over Morocco,Algeria,Egypt and South Africa but it's in so much debt from European loans and they hold its oil ransom...you have countries like Mali,Chad,Burkina Faso and i can name few. Right now in Djibouti Europe countries have army bases and using that poor country paying peanuts...they will never help civilize that country they need it poor so they can control the government.
Very much should’ve been said in this video that the US and Western governments including France have been engaging in similar and more severe economic colonialism for decades. Chile, Trinidad, Panama, Middle Eastern oil countries (i.e. British Petroleum’s inception), and the list goes on and on. It’s a harmful deception to portray this as an abuse by China without the context that more severely economic colonial models are the current Western economic model and its foundation.
We haven’t merely engaged in predatory loans (which we also do and did). US funded contractors known to be white supremacist death squads to assist coups and toppling governments including democratic Chile’s Allende in order to obtain US company ownership of natural resources. Dutch attempt to steal Ethiopian injera and colonize their market. The list is literally dozens of books long.
Grow up. People complain if people are over there “colonizing” and you same people complain if we do nothing. Africa should appreciate china and other countries doing this. Africans just can’t figure it out.
@@alkdjfhgks1919 America developed Saudi Arabia, because it had a natural resource America wanted, oil. Saudi Arabia now enjoys wildly higher standards of life and development. China is literally building Africa's skyline as I type. And countries who work with China will enjoy higher standards of life. America has nothing to offer, really anyone anymore.
@@alkdjfhgks1919 I'm American, but educated (beyond comedians posing as journalists) and objective. America is in decline, the most indebted nation probably in world history, completely divided, and cannot do anything pragmatic or economic for Africa. Corny African-themed Marvel movies don't build roads in developing countries.
Am Ugandan and I can assure you African is still colonized by the west and under their rule African hasn't developed except exploitation. If the Chinese take over property and develop it actually it helps and improves the lives and wellbeing of the locals.
@@jakem1273 I know but unlike our western friends at least the Chinese are leaving infrastructure behind which I would choose over the white mans double standard democry ,human rights and Christianity B.S
@@deejaydonj Haha. Chinease are not leaving infrastructure behind. They are building to take it along with your land and location for them to utilize. Soon you will be tossed out of your own land.
Thank you. At least I believe that Chinese people will be kind even if they want to make money. Because there is no colonialism in our culture, but the peaceful creation of wealth and win-win cooperation
I hope Trevor does a segment on the U.S. in Africa. China uses finance. The U.S. uses the military. The U.S. has the world divided into military commands. The newest is Africom. It is one of the eleven unified combatant commands. It was created in 2007. If I was an African country and the choice was financial or military, I’d pick financial. They both have consequences, but money has a much better return.
@@nafkiamissac777 Also the USA rules the world through destabilizing countries and funding leaders. Yeah, they make a mess and steal what's left. China builds and develops. Guess what approach many African countries favor? And yeah, Trevor is sharp, but his tongue is owned.
The USA needs to shift their paradigm beyond poles. They are over-militarised, thinking they are the world's remaining superpower. Ha ha...that huge army can't solve any problems, and meanwhile the countries who use economic and technological strength come in achieve what the military can't. It's not 1945 anymore, Yanks...
At least China is making huge progress in infrastructure in Africa. The west has been there for a centuries and what has happened? Just supporting rebel groups with weapons. China doesn't impose hypocritical moral values on Africa and just creates a win-win of economic boom. (jobs, infrastructure, etc)
Wait, who is wondering “how can another country take another country’s airport?” The USA has military bases in over 80 countries, why should we be so special?
@@YummyRage Yes but still if those countries are "allies" is it really to have that much military coverage, if I'm not wrong the only Anti American country which(may) really pose a threat (militarily speaking) to the U. S and is near those allied countries of whom most are in Europe is Russia ;but apart from Russia I don't think that The U. S need that much of military dominance if it already has economic and diplomatic dominance.
@@mutabazimichael8404 I mean the u.s does claim it's self as international "peace" keeper that's why some countries that have bases in the south America and island don't have a big military as u can have a u.s base and be set for a while
@@YummyRage with all due respect how many times has "The Leader of the free world" ordered a coup in a foreign country including many in South America, as you say yourself, "it calls Itself the international peacekeeper" but does it really act like it even the U. S like any big country act out of self interest , that's all I am saying.
Ffs stop toeing the anti china line. China literally provided EVIDENCE of never confiscating, and you're reinterpreting that as a threat... There's a reason they chose china, any loan from the west would've both been more expensive AND had political AND economic strings attached- true colonialism. I didn't realize you were so biased until now Meanwhile evergrande can't repay its loans to western debtors and you're salivating over selling its assets
@@orkkojit This accusation is just evidence that you can't fight me logically, on an intellectual basis, and must resort to some unprovable accusation that actually makes no sense, especially when considering how well I've been able to linguistically dominate you.
But China is also meddling in Africa by controlling their international policy and threatening to take away their infrastructure. Both are bad for different reasons.
I found the argument pretty weak, that chinese workers are brought as supervisors and get a higher average pay. I mean you can bet that in BMW factories in China a lot of the high ranking positions are held by Germans as well and so their average pay would be. a lot higher as well. I really wouldn't say that this is something unique to China.
Agreed. When China just opened it market in 1980s. There are a lot of west people worked in China paid much more than Chinese workers. The view in this video is so biased.
And likewise. Africans or any other foreigners that go to China to work as skilled talent likely earn higher wages than their local counterparts. Otherwise their wouldn’t be an incentive for people to leave their home countries.
The problem is not the loans..the problem is our leaders take the money and not use it for purpose it was loan for..and loan again etc..we can pay back..the problem is the leaders are stealing it for their own..tax payers later have to repay forcing the country to go in debt and economic crisis etc
I am from Central Asia and we have an absolutely similar situation with China, so I think I can make a comment on this topic 1) Ordinary Africans themselves are to blame for this problem, just as here in Central Asia we are to blame for a government that prefers to take out loans and fall into a debt trap of slavery, rather than cope on its own or look for better options, for example, in Africa, there are countries that use European loans such as Mauritania or Nigeria, provided that they do something to democratize the government. 2) People have every right to dislike Chinese people who live in China, firstly because I was in China and most people in China are proud of the actions of their government (at least in 2012), and secondly, people who work in Chinese companies that pump natural resources from the countries of China's creditors, absolutely everyone is proud of their special status that they receive in the host country, I say from personal experience, they themselves prefer to segregate, not only from local but also from Chinese who are engaged in smaller positions, this is also observed in China and in other countries but in Eastern culture it is very archaic
great segment. now the key question is: what is the alternative? who else is going to help build up africa's infrastructure with no strings attached? there is no altruism in international politics.
One question, how would adding more infrastructure affect climate change and the creatures that are a big part of the continent. Would they be destroyed, become extinct or become attractions in a zoo.
Who in the world would loan big amounts without collateral? All contracts need offer and acceptance as part of the forming of contracts. Contracts under duress are also unenforceable. If they aren't happy with the terms they are free to find loans at other places
"No one cares about issues, until it affects them." So so true.
If US can provide better offer. Then do it.
That's true, I can genuinely say I don't care right now 🤷🏾♂️.
It's not just africa, they are doing it to poor countries in eastern europe too. Maybe not to the same degree. But it's going on everywhere.
China has been a dominant power for centuries in SE Asia without invading anyone there, unlike the west who invaded and colonized the ENTIRE region as soon as they set foot in the region
Also, last time Indonesia ALLIED with USA, 5 million people DIED in genocide. Further tens of thousands in East Timor. And almost 90% of Freeport money went to AMERICA instead of Indonesia even though this mining company operated on Indonesian soil.
@@steggopotamus and SEA region too. Myanmar military coup is MADE IN CHINA.
Trevor, am a Kenyan and I differ slightly with you. Western nations were the major investors in African countries and their terms were always imbalanced and unfair to us. They interfered in our politics, our social values and economic policies, on top of providing expensive loans and trade imbalanced. Although China is not the best option, it is the better option for African countries at the moment. We started being called "the rising giants" in the last decade just after China increased investments. So, if Western nations think they wanna invest here, let them battle the competition with China.
I agree with you. I am European and have to say: If other fully industrialized nations would have had the guts to invest as much as China did, they would have done. I don't want to see African countries being suppressed by yet another colonizing force, but I don't think for a minute that other countries would do anything else. Might actually be worse. I heard there is a global superpower that likes to make things up in order to outright invade.
Europe and USA need to up their game and invest too. That way Africa's position becomes independent.
I'm Ghanaian and I will take Chinese loans for infrastructure anyday, at least when the Chinese leave, they leave something behind. They even have the guts to talk about taking over airports when the US army is trying to take over the largest terminal in Ghana's national Airport.
It's just propaganda, Americans don't know how their government and their allies were treating african countries.
@@MissMoontree That would mean anyone is interested in having truly independent African countries. Let's face it: All every investing country wants is exploit African countries as much as possible. I just feel bad for the countries being in this position for so long now.
E: Don't kil civilians!
A: Pls stop interfering with our social values
No matter how bad what China has been doing in Africa, it's still nothing compared to what France has been doing there since 100 plus years, yet I haven't heard any hypocrit from the mainstream media talking about it.
France is still being paid colonial tax
How about that!
Whataboutism at its finest.
Look at both of the ill-doings. Don't say "look there! he's doing the same bad thing I'm doing so I can go scot-free!"
@GrumpyOldMan Reset point in 1991😂😂😂😂 I come from a country ( Cameroun ) where the president is handpicked by France and the currency is not only created in France but also controlled by them so yeah, 1991👍🏿
the West will do whatever it can to taint the relationship between China and Afrca
I can’t believe how the ones who once established forced labouring and conscripting in Africa actually have the shame to blame the ones who are genuinely constructing that place
@@tomczaksabine8857since when do we break every bone in a black boy's body the way black beats our Chinese food delivery guys TO DEATH.
Some countries are colonizing another through wars, China is 'colonizing' another through infrastructures. I must say, I prefer the China-way of colonizing rather than... say, the british-way.
(I would love to be in a world where colonizing is a foreign word, but unfortunately we live in an awful world)
thats right my man usa and europe only want africa mineral not wellness for the people
You are so naive xD
BullS…. China and Russia are in Africa’s natural resources!
Nigeria hasn't been able to repay Western loans borrowed since the 70s and 80s which hardly provided physical infrastructures and were mostly purely embezzled while at least we are seeing the direct physical infrastructures being built with the Chinese loans which will surely help improve our economy. The problem is not the Chinese loans but our greedy leaders who agree high loans just to make their own profits from it as they know they cannot fully embezzle the money as they did with the borrowed Western Loans. Don't blame China who wants to do business, Blame your greedy leaders who have high Western Education but greed has made them quite willing to sell their own people!!!
Nigeria didn't have problem with china. UK owes nigeria more than #200trillion and has not yet paid till date. Nigeria only owes china 5$billion. Nigeria still need more of china investment in the country and don't be afraid cause nigeria has enough money to pay them off anytime they want their money back. This video only applies to small Africa countries
I think you said it better ,cz debt trap is not influenced by China but our own government can’t they do proper financial analysis and find best ways to do that,no one is here to feed Africa for free,China has resources to invest in Africa s most needed industry “infrastructure” .Let Africa make sure it’s gain - gain
Wait, didn't OBJ pay a lot or "everything" back? Check your records guys. Let's be factual in our opinions. I think Obj paid and we re-borrowed.
I remember a book titled the economic hitman? It might explain something about debt trap.
Is there any African which didn’t accept to take the Chinese’s loan ? Just to know
how many African countries COLONIZED by the Western countries?
did they build something or gave any concession to their former COLONIZED countries?
Look at any African city. They are all build in European style. Guess why
They did build some infrastructure but it is designed and just enough to extract the resources then transport them to the port to western countries as destination. Gyude Moore talk at Paulson Institute explain this clearly and more
The whataboutism is strong with these comments.
@@henrygustavekrausse7459 yea because it'd illegal to talk about Africa's exploitation by westerners, right bozo?
Therefore one wrong justifies the other, right?
If loans aren't repaid? Ask Haití what the West did to it. Usa, France, Britain, Spain, Netherlands.
The US not USA the US and America are totally different the US is a corporation America is America an Island basically
Ask Greece ;-)
@@toolguyslayer1 tf you on about
China has no viable recourse ... actually. The west control the financial system ... therefore if you don't pay the west can boycott your country. China can never bomb or invade any country ... let alone Africa that is on another continent ... like the west have done. The only recourse is legal .... but the west control both UN and ICJ.
Haiti problem is corrupt Haitian leaders! You can't fix a roof without walls around it.
No AFRICAN country is being forced to accept China’s loans! Why the European countries don’t give loans to Africans? When Americans set up factories China, they also send their managers and technical staff to supervise these factories. That’s the way the world works. Africa may not have the skills and knowledge in manufacturing or infrastructure, so the Chinese investors need to send their own people to ensure their investments are secured.
Trevor, the sad thing is, Western countries cannot even say " we have never ..." because they actually did it, many times.
Yes in the past .But you cant blame the current generation for it .
@@dude9318 its hard to say，take a look at Syria，Afganistan，Lebanon,and Iran and so on....its still happening today
West is still neo-colonizing Africa today just like did to banana republic, that's why Africa sold natural resources to West for decades but Africans are still starving, why Saudi UAE Australia Russia Brazil are not starving? because they get paid for selling natural resources but Africa got paid nothing, maybe only got churches freedom democracy and military bases.
@@lvjinbin28 I live in Africa...the reason they starve is because their culture does not align with progress in a modern world.
Come here and see it for yourself instead of saying things that have had no relevance in 2022 or earlier for a long time now.
Africans are their own worst enemy..
Come see it for yourself.
@@lvjinbin28 Brazil is still starving...
So "China holds 20% of the continent's debt", what about the other 80%?
The 80% own by European and American IMF, World Bank Africa's own nothing because without unity and strong military will remain poor.
The Truth is if US and NATO Allies spent all the money they spent on weaponizing Africa for decades to instead build roads bridges and railways, Africa would not be needing China now.
But US is only interested in sponsoring terrorism (rebels) in Africa.
Exactly , they do not want to cover that Part
@@samiraa3671 facts Africa is resource rich but cash poor due to exploitation and poor leadership, which is crazy considering the entirety of 17 and 18th century civilization was built of its resources
@@samiraa3671 I don't see how that changes the immorality of what China is doing. In the end each country is responsible for it's own actions and should not deflect blame based on "but he did it first!". World leaders are not children.
China to Africa: Build Roads, Dams, Bridges, Rail Roads, Farms, Housing, Factories etc.
U S A to Africa: A Song (and numerous useless NGOs)
Haraam
Plus bombings and coups every once in a while.
West has given Africa nothing but wars, diseases, poverty etc. China is the only country which will help Africa.
@@u.d.7543 Not if the China is slowly trying to take over African countries.
@@u.d.7543 Yes, but what is their end game?
US controlled IMF give out loan with 5% interest whereas the Chinese's loan interest is 2.5-2.9%, if the Chinese's loan is debt trap than what the double up interest from IMF loan will be?
They just want free money
bruh just take the loan but do not come crying when the chinese have stole all your resources just like the british for the past 300 years
@@zhinkunakur4751 Stole? They're just giving it away. Zimbabwe has no choice but to do it because they kicked out all the farmers and are starving and bankrupt. Black men destroy everything they touch.
@Sunita Jaiswal what do you think usa do when country have lotof debts
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Honestly it's not like the west is making the situation better for Africa. At least China's money is developing the continent I would love to hear you go on more about western funded military activity in Africa. We know nothing is for free but at least they are not destabilizing Africa like what the west repeatedly does meddling in our affairs.
100% right. West has robbed Africa of their resources, lands, lives and more over the past 400 years. Has given them back wars, poverty, diseases and many more. Love China, greatings from Europe.
Stripping the continent is more a
accurate wording
Dear Trevor: please cover this subject much more frequently-🌹
They’re gonna do the same thing and more
There is an end game
China is doing the same all over Latin America…as a Latin American I am concerned but the US has had a centuries long vested interest in keeping Latin America poor…so can you blame these countries when their neighbor is their biggest oppressor?!
the biggest gangsters are in Washington, DC, London, Paris, Brussels, and Tel Aviv. It's not Beijing.
China owns about $1.1 trillion in U.S. debt, or a bit more than the amount Japan owns.
Latin America are loving the new rails being provided by China. Same with Laos.
These same countries were bombed by the US previously.
@@vivekjain9797 Biased clown.
America has set the pace that all the superpowers follow.
The thing is, if no banks want to give you loans, and you manage to find one that has lax requirements, low interest and willing to lend you some money, is there any surprise that you will borrow from them ? and why should others that didnt lend their money to you complain about it when they are not prepared to lend you in the first place ? Its call a loan not donation, you know the deal, you borrow when no one else willing to give you the loan. And China only accounts for 25% of the external debt of these African countries, only a select few has a China majority debt. China obviously doesnt do it out of kindness, they want you to be developed to side with them politically and trade with them, that is normal with all countries. Why do you think the USA likes to spread democratic and capitalist values everywhere, maintain such a large navy and 'protect' other countries ? is it out of kindness ? No, its for their companies to trade and prosper everywhere. USA is heavily dependant on trade and wants to ensure a stable environment for the trade
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What is your opinion about monetary loans? Shouldn't people or nations or banks lend money and recoup off profit rather than some arbitrary interest rate?
Just like the MOB..
Yeah but putting Chinese workers in Africa is unfair cause the whole point of the project is to have jobs for Africans and to make it develop so China’s being really greedy and unfair.
@@jeffharry7079 yes, that is something the African nations should negotiate with the Chinese side, there should be a minimum quota of local workers, although having Chinese supervisor is normal, in my country, it isnt out of ordinary to have Western supervisors for the first few years of expansion in the country. Not saying that having Chinese loans is all happy and flowers, but its practical quid pro quo. Chinese gets their political and trade benefits, African get their money and infrastructure. The infrastructure development should benefit these nations long term. Its far better than blindly providing any aid that channels to nowhere
America: loans money to africa.
China: Does the same but with lower interest rates.
America: Wait, that's illegal
Chinese are evil people...period.
America only grants funds if the nations promote homosexuality,they resent this insult greatly
Lower interest I'm pretty sure that it's not so low
@@Hans-rd9lf i'm pretty sure you know so little about the terms😅, there are a lot of loan even with no interest.
@@湯米-x1w Now that you bring it up: The terms! That's where the devils hand prints are hidden. A Togolese in the comment wrote about how a French firm will be running their main Port for 35 years! Probably some shady character in France who will not be allowed to get near any port in France! But if he is 'packaged' along with some French Cooperation Loan, who will notice?
As a witness and a Kenyan, Africa and china relations brought super development compared to 100 years of American and European influence,
exactly th-cam.com/video/hpAcAEl48PA/w-d-xo.html
Exactly this is the Western propaganda
Fellow East African here. I completely agree with you.
That's true but that why the Mombasa port doesn't belong to Kenya anymore 😕
"Super development" that not many people have need for.
Honestly, as an African, I really detest this patronizing attitude toward Africa. Uganda knowingly signed these loans. Let Uganda sort itself out. It can figure it's way out of this. It will have to. I don't think China is colonizing Africa - that is a talking point the western media has harped on to and we are just repeating it blindly. I think China's interests in Africa can be mutually beneficial. What we need are wise leaders.
Well The problem is China is doing this deliberately in other countries as well. It is funding projects in Srilanka in order to gain control over the Indian Ocean.
Because African Americans have a different culture/mindset than Africans 🤣
@@manishadev2896 but they r letting China do it. Soooo
The Ugandan story is refuted by the Ugandan aviation authority. It ain't even true. The west makes up story and everyone else needs to spend time and energy refuting it. What a waste of time. Meanwhile new Africom bases are popping up everywhere. And 20 African ports are owned by one French man
So true and I agree This guy is a comedian he says everything when he get paid by the USA we as Ethiopian really appreciate what China's doing for our Country 100%
25 years ago when foreigner investors went to China they brought their own management team and paid local people less than US$20.- / month. Today U.S. investors still running the same operation in other south east Asia countries like Vietnam; Cambodia; etc... and the local labors probably get the same pay as Africa labors.
U forgot to mention banana republic and the rubber plantation in central and south america.
@Drumpf donny We get our "China bad" propaganda woke style.
And what happened after? Let me guess, USA took China's resources and China inhereted trillions of dollar turning it into the 2nd super power of the world from a rich uncle. Right? Or maybe China's wealth came from his own people's consumption? America is not a saint country, but at least it has a system that repairs itself and freedom is the norm, where meritocracy can make anyone riches.
@@JonROlsen Liked your earlier comment -- referring to the "woke" punk.
@@kongmengchang6883 Or the Chinese in Zambia. th-cam.com/video/GbCfmVtenlE/w-d-xo.html
The reason African countries cant pay back their loans is not because China set a trap for them, but because the people in government are sharing huge sum form the loan among themselves.
I suspect China's strategy is to pay a large bribe to the president and his cronies up front, on the clear understanding that the project funding remains in Chinese hands, and no one else puts out their hand. That is the reason Chinese projects are completed on time and within budget.
Actually, loans from China only account for a small part of the loans in these countries, and most of the debt is from Europe and the United States.
@@yuelingchen6446 that is so true. At one point Nigeria had 100 billion dollars of debt but only 4-5% was a "debt trap".
All of the above! Including China scamming Africans while African leaders are also scamming Africa’s citizens..
Debt trap is better than outright colonization...
As a person that spent 2 years in Uganda the amount of construction I saw being done by Chinese workers was staggering.
And you will be surprised how much less money China cost to build them than other advanced countries.
China is not only providing loans, but also low cost building capability from China. If the loans and projects are provided by other advanced countries, it will definitely take Africa nations a lot more time and efforts to repay the loans for the baically the same constructions.
@@joelau2383 Finding any excuse to exploit the African people and continent. Why whenever China is questioned about their exploitation of Africa, Chinese supporters like yourself always seem to bring up the West as a distraction from the blame?
At least they are building infraestructure, while other just take the natural resources and dump their trash.
@@DWEthiopia Because this is how business and capitalism work. The "exploitation" you said is actually called profit or interest.
I really don't understand why communism supporter like you still cannot accept the China relatively low profit margin in 21th century. I mean even Soviet Union had a profit margin when they sold gas and fuel to Europe during cold war, right?
@@DWEthiopia to find or read more things about south america,Latin continent, the history ,politics, or colonization please. why didn't those governments choose other loan offer or deal from other countries? i liked trevor since he wasn't the host of the daily show. but he cannot be real neutral when his homeland is involved, so do us. leaders from africa know what they are facing, china didn't do it for free, but it's or was definitely the best choice they can or could accept.
Before you cast judgement on China’s “unsavory” loan practices…the US has mastered this tactic. If you’ve ever seen the outrageous terms and interest rates on those “payday” loans, you know taking advantage of poor people has been in action in the US for years. And it’s all legal. Unethical, but legal.
Yup China just doing it on a national scale.
You realize equating one with the other doesn't absolve China of what it is doing, right? Both bad. Period. Focus on the topic at hand.
One must wonder what red line China needs to cross before the senseless "whataboutism" excuses end.
But both can be true at the same time. China taking advantage of Africa and corporations are taking advantage of American citizens.
I was coming to comment this
"A new kind of colonialism" suggests that the the US economy hasn't been colonizing everywhere since the 60s.
1660s?
If someone in the west is talking about non-traditional colonialism for another country they are hypocrites
Lol if we were colonizers we'd have half of Europe, southeast Asia, Africa and South America by now. Except we gave them all their freedom back. Sounds so horrible
@@jerimiahstephens8580 they bought back their freedom…
Underrated comment. But it started even before the 60s.
i don't understand,like if you can't repay your loan of house in the US,they wouldn't take your house and auction it?
Actually they would create a puppet government, which is real colonization
哈哈，如果你买了美国房子，每个月还要交房产税，不交房产税你会被赶出去，等于和租房没有区别
Sure. Let African countries stop taking Chinese loans. Where else are they going to go for loans? The IMF? The US? The UK? Gee that's really worked out well for everyone for the past hundred years.
well said
The IMF and its death trap policy will sink Africa even faster..
Facts
We don't need Chinese loans that are backed by genocide. The point is nothing from the Chinese communist government or any communist government is worth the strings attached.
@@thenoxbox4829 ahh...such naive point of view is....breathtaking...
As an Ethiopian, I believe that Chinese govt negotiates investments with Chinese interests in mind and African governments negotiate with their respective interests in mind. There are potential upsides and downsides to all parties involved and all parties act in their best interests. Calling it new colonialism is infantilizing African countries and treating them as if they have no agency in their decisions.
Also, the US and European investment has been incredibly small in most countries and as many have commented here, European countries are still exploiting certain African directly. So comapirng China to the West is a false equivalency.
I'm disappointed in Trevor and the Daily Show team. I wont be watching their videos anymore
I am very very dissapointed on you Trevor, if you don't know, don't talk. Instead of agitating the chinese, you are assuming that Africans have no brains on their own to make the right decisions. What had the Western countries done for African Continents besides from bringing sufferings to them. You tell me
You remarks are so incredible and thank you for saying the truth!
The Chinese are better at leading your country than you are. And the Chinese are going to learn what everyone learns about Africa - it’s poor because it’s filled with Africans.
@@NoahBodze You are just racist and refuse to believe that you are not born superior to other human beings
@@yinongxu9355 Tell me about diversity in China, Xu. Tell me about all the diversity you have! Those million UYgurs in camps don’t feel so welcomed, so they, racist.
American companies also fill most of their senior positions in a foreign country with American employees...same thing happens to French, Japanese or Korean companies.
Yes. But China has all the lower tier jobs wrapped up too . The debt trap is happening everywhere causing civil unrest in the pacific too.
@@snapdragon9300 Why must China train every African in language and skills? Western companies rarely train even their own people domestically. If Chinese debt is so bad, they can finance with the West under more expensive terms. Some of these countries have never been not at unrest, even before Americans traded and sold slaves there.
China was educating about 80,000 African students, and they were planning to take 500,000 until covid-19 broke out. If you want African managers working on African-Chinese projects, that's where they're going to come from.
@@kisol2051 Pacific islands never experienced slavery .🙄They have been a source for cheap labour by New Zealand/my country and Australia since we've been colonized. China as I said, aren't willing to employ them!.look at how China are poaching fish stocks of these nations and loading them nations up on debt.
Australia, New Zealand and yes USA all have contributed to pacific infrastructure programs and naval patrols.
My country even has delivered tens of thousands of covid vaccines to Fiji, Vanuatu, Tuvalu and other islands.
We along with Austraila have done this, and we both have peacekeeping forces in the Soloman islands now because of civil uprisings over their President selling out businesses and resources to China.
@@norman_5623 Can you show us evidence of the education program China was doing? Why then has ASEAN and the pacific island forum leadership complained about Chinas abusive behavior and taking of jobs and resources?
China is playing a better economic game than the western nations. The world economy game created by China is completely different than the colonizations made by the western nations. Perfect example is Greece. The EU and USA didn't care about the Greek port of Pytheous. A port that the western countries and the USA determined unfixable. China went there and now it's one of the most important ports in Europe.
The problem here isn't even the loans, it's African politicians who are very corrupt.
as an African, this is true. they take the loans at the expense of the country then loot the money for themselves, failure to repay is the countries' problem not theirs
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@UC6LDJdxAj4Lrgo-mv3vohoQ right it really is a lose/lose situation
Yeah the entire Africa politician are corrupt that why America got most Africa-American in jail. 😢
So are the thieves who is running Guyana, that signed the same contract too.
As an African, I have to say I don't agree with today's topic, since when did European and American countries get concerned enough FORRR Africa to talk about this on their News, the thing wrong with westerns is that they are faster than a flash of lightning to point their fingers at someone else's mistakes, but don't even try to correct their wrongdoings when told, but rather find a ridiculous explanation to the matter just so you don't believe you made a mistake.
They know what they are doing.. If their competitors find a way to deceive and fool our African so-called leaders.. They point at it so somehow, their competitors are slowed down while they think of another way to go in.
Our leaders are the worse...
Thank you!
Trevor Noah is an African soooo it would make sense for him to talk about something like this 🙄 As an American who has traveled Africa it’s so weird to see how much stake China has in the continent. Its weird to see how bad the infrastructure is in the different countries but, million dollars/billion dollar deals are being made with other countries. It’s also weird to see how much Westerners are disliked but our money is always needed and welcomed…Africa is rich in resources that OTHERS profit off of. Don’t be madd at Westerns, everyone just know how to play the game and historically Africa always get the short stick-know thy enemies. What African country would do business with a country where in present day doesn’t allow black people (and NO, I’m not referring to only black Americans) in certain places. Look how they treated Africans in China back in 2020 when the pandemic first started. Stop coming for westerners YA’LL need to do better and protect Africa.
M8
We stopped colonialism in africa
Its not like you guys freed yourselves. We teach that as a shame of our civilization today.
I suggest to you that you dont point your finger instead focussing on protecting your own country and not just from the evil europe…
Whatever tribe or country you are from, its sure to have committed genocide or other evil acts
Europe and America are interested because China's in Africa!!! Duh!
why do the western media always talk about African Debt to china but they never speak about African debt to the Western country.
Because China won't be taking over Western airports, port or infrastructure if there is a default.
Because western media is biased
Or western debt to China??👀👀👀
Dont know what total situation is but 'your bad doesn't excuse my also doing bad' - Africa really is owed reconstruction healing support by the rest of the world.
@@lindalinda-ie3hw rest of the world how? did korean or indian or chinese or kazakhs ship black slaves around back in the days?
this is the first video that you made that I am so disappointed with, I cannot believe you truly think China is taking advantage of Africa
Dude, it's his JOB, what he really thinks, doesn't matter at all. Most of the script is handed to him by the show, (I presume).
Actually i am so sad becasuse I watched Trevor Noah daily show for about 4 or 5 years, and so shocked by his point of view. In my opinion, as least China is investing money and bringing resourse to Africa, otherwise we could just spend it at home to improve our own living quality. Why those media are always misleading people's eyes and minds with fake news everywhere, and try to raise antagonism between China and Africa? Oh, I see, it's all about business, and hypocrisy.
He sold out
We like the Chinese anyway, and no one is taking an airport. The infrastructure in Afrca would have totally collapsed by 2000 as the world bank and western banks were not ready to finance the projects. They said we are not credit worthy, but the Chinese so the way we see it. We have recourses and can pay the loans. China has changed the world order. We are not trapped and we're not fools. African renaissance is here brother.
@@boomboombaby9140 What? That's such white thinking. Chinese restaurant owners welcome people of all colors because it creates business you fool.
Until African students get serious and start massive training their people to do the job. We can’t blame others for doing it.
@@boomboombaby9140 so you respond in kind by robbing , killing, assaulting Asian Americans here? Racial violence is your answer for non-violence?
Cos they dont want you develop urself, thus allowing them to exploit ur resource instead of u selling ur resource.
There has never been an African "naissance" so why do you always blabber about "Renaissance"?
China is doing to Africa what the United States did to central & South America. The Chilean foreign minister recently said, “when China comes here, they talk about infrastructure and investments. When the United States comes all they talk about is China.
Yes true
China might loan more money to African countries who vote their way, but look at the 1970s when the vote came up to recognise the PRC instead of the ROC as the rulers of China, America and a whole bunch of African countries it gave loans to voted against it. Thus, did America not basically do the same?
@@chieuleyang6768 why are you deflecting to the 1970's. We're talking about China here and now not the US. So do you want Africa to be in the position that South America is in now after US interference?
@@chieuleyang6768 Don't kid us? The only African countries who voted against China were apartheid South Africa and some minnows. Majority of African voted with China. You remember the infamous racist slur used against the Africans - by Ronald Reagan and Nixon? Africans literally jubilated to see China return.
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As a South African, I’ve observed that Chinese aid could potentially be a double edged sword, but still better than the bombs of ‘western assistance’ that has destroyed infrastructure and has taken many a country back into the Stone Age. And I’m still holding my breath for the West to charge and imprison unscrupulous western private sector precious resource players operating in Africa.
Infrastructure is a key starting point for just about all countries and it’s coming in regardless of the motivation. Hopefully, with that starting point, African countries can get their respective houses in order.
I know ryt , I have been telling people this they think I'm just paranoid
And perhaps the Chinese are doing this because they truly have the interests of the African at heart. As if there is no geopolitical rivalry between them and the West.
我是🇲🇾华人！相信中国🇨🇳！不会像西方国家带来炸弹！
@@tienpongliang2021 I don't know what this means
@@Katyloveheart he means he believes china will not bring war to Africa
That's how we call "loan" that you must repay. Why does China lend so much money to Africa? Because the western countries do not want to invest in infrastrucure in Africa, they just want to get fast money on capital. Do not slander on China, when you do nothing to Africa but China is buiding.
I'm a Ugandan. Stop blaming China through Western imperialistic angles. Blame the corrupt Ugandan gov't officials.
Where the heck it's the imperalistic angles from currently 21st century structured value political western countries.Are you still stuck in the very past of before mid-20ty century, Mr. Probably an African version of a ultranationalist irrationalis,which many western imperialists were.BACK then ,goes to even the many currently eastern/Xi-chinese ultranationalist to naive to think more independently to their more and more Mao-likevaluepolitical(once again) Xi-regime/Xi-dynasty.Think.about that for a minute,will you??So,give me a break..lol..Jeez. Otherwise,yeah sure to the rest of your statements 🙄🤷🤦😅😉✌🌈💎🌈
U r Kenyan not Ugandan
Stop lying on TH-cam comments lol 😂😂
@@orkkojit hes probably never been to a Ugandan political popup which guns are involved, my sister was in one when she was in gulu uganda a few years back
@@orkkojit a Ugandan from West Nile, precisely Maracha District, working in Kenya as a Lecturer
I just want to point out countries like Egypt were debt trapped by the UK, which resulted in the British occupation for 70+ years. It happened before and is happening now. It is not new.
but arent we sepose to get better over time ? or nahhhh
@@Ok-but unfortunately capitalism is just that cruel!!
Talk when China "occupies" any nation in Africa. Anything else is just bigoted guessing.
And France did it to Tunisia
Nothing new
@@Ok-but um... is that _supposed_ to read _supposed?_ Or nahhhh _[sic]._ 🙄
The problem is no country is willing to invest in Africa with no strings attached, when plenty of countries can afford to do so and it would obviously have positive long-term effects for everyone
No country is willing to invest anywhere with no strings attached
That is purpose of investment.
You need collaterals to make a bet
@@AS_210 well China did
@@sumeersamarat706 As many natural resources come out of Africa, she could sustain on her own. But as we all know this is political and greed on all sides!
@@t.l.5755 It is not like only china is investigating in Africa.
Turkey spends over 30 billion. India has massively started investment in Africa.
Japan also invest a lot in africa.
The more countries start investing the better options Africans will get.
Bottom line being, the West in general and the US in particular doesn't have a right to tell Africans with whom they can and cannot do business. If someone else offers a better deal, of course they would choose the better deal. You have to imagine how awful the West has been in Africa so far, to the point that supposedly uncivilized countries like China and Russia are embraced as a better alternative.
Than don't come to the United States seeking asylum, when things start to turn bad!
But why did a lot of Africans still go to the West?
we wont if you will play fair@@ladystrange45
@@frostylunetta It's much more difficult to get into China. African coming to the West may be feeling Western backed dictators in their own countries, or poverty created by Western exploitation.
@@frostylunettabecause this people don't represent everyone in Africa, he'll most of them live in America and spread anti-American propaganda 😮
I am a bit confused to be honest... according to the video, China has provided loans to struggling countries in Africa with as low as zero interests, other countries didn't even bother considering to do the same thing because they think it will be just a waste of money. Would it be better to just not lend the money to Africa and let them be? Not to mention that these money are going to infrastructure projects which will really benefit the country in the long term... As for taking away the assets when a country can't repay the loan, I haven't seen any news reporting any actual case that occurred, but even if it really happened, isn't it a common practice to give the lender your asset in exchange of the unpaid debt? I am just really confused, hope someone with more insight can answer.
Basically, China took an advantage of the African countries’ vulnerability. They knew the countries couldn’t turn down the loans that would improve them, and they also knew the countries wouldn’t be able to repay the loans. So they gave out the loans with the intention of ultimately taking over land and natural resources, not necessarily to help africa. This is evident by the fact that they rather bring Chinese workers to work on projects than hire local Africans for the projects. It’s terrible, their taking an advantage of these African countries that have already been through sm
@@geryhabul8923 if the terms are bad, then don't take them no matter how attractive it is? And why in the first place "the countries couldn’t turn down the loans that would improve them"? Is it because western nations don't care about Africa to offer improvement or that they attach too much political strings which then drove the leaders to choose Chinese investments instead? And why Africa needs so much investment to improve itself? Isn't it because western colonialism in the first place? These are the causes, China is the effect.
Ok, here's the best way I can explain it:
You go to a lender for a car loan. You can't find a decent-paying job so you default on your car loan. The lender says, "No problem. If you never shop at 'X' named grocery store again, we will forgive your car loan". Debtor says, "You got it. 'X' grocery store goes out of business, the lender brings in 'Y' grocery store (which they have a financial interest in), & the cost of the debtor's groceries skyrocket which in turn chains him/her to a financial treadmill for life.
The truth is our leaders make those deals. China comes and does shady jobs. Many in the government squander that money so in the end what we can see is the shoddy work the Chinese did!!! So there is no money to payback the debt as the money wasn't used to generate any income. In the end, you have a man surviving on less than a dollar a day, having to pay 16 to 24% in retail taxes just to buy basic stuff. Did I confuse you more? Hope not.
Why not take the airport until debts are paid?
As someone who's spent most of their life in Africa, I have to say this is a very shallow take on the issue. It's cool that you're covering it I guess, but you could have made much better use with 13 minutes.
Africa will be the literal and financial fuel for this "4th industrial revolution" we keep hearing about and all the major players have been doing whatever it takes to stay competitive. America has probably been the biggest player in this. Starting wars, funding rebellions, killing those influential individuals who call for financial independence and vertical integration of industry. Once the country has been ravaged beyond repair, armies of corporations come swooping in to pillage resources as they please, while taking all the large contracts for development which are themselves funded (through loans) by the large American banks. Then France takes a turn, then the U.K., then Israel, and on and on and on. The Berlin conference is when the world's most powerful western governments decided Africa would be a necessary sacrifice to achieve greatness and prosperity. Eventually, China got wise and the race was on.
Yes. The West uses the IMF and World Bank to impose loans with conditions that hurt the ordinary workers, the 99%. Conditions such as requiring they grow crops for export -- not for their own food (and only import their own food). China builds infrastructure and employs many local residents. America and NATO use democracy-bombs to get their way. Given world history in comparison to this present moment, it seems clear why Africans would rather deal with the China.
Yeah. Few more years and you will see the real ends of Chinese policy.
@@Unfamous_Buddha on the surface of it, going with China seems like a no-brainer. Unfortunately they rarely follow through with their promises or give fair compensation. Though they definitely train more local workers, which I suppose is a positive.
@@user-xr4fw1se9q -- So you say.
But right now, would you as a third-world citizen, prefer infrastructure being built or democracy-bombs being dropped on your infrastructure (along with innocent civilian being slaughtered)?
@@josephelijah4073 -- And China's non-use of democracy-bombs is also a plus.
"The truth is, no one cares about Africa" - Trevor Noah.... i felt that!
@Proud Mary that's cuz the colonial powers made sure the "democratically" elected goons are loyal to their regime of exploiting the resources of Africa on the cheap.
@@k8p666 exactly the continent has been pillaged by Europeans and Asians (including Arabs) for centuries! The continent is rich in and of itself, but white supremacy has deliberately convinced them otherwise. This is a concerted effort to exploit the land and people.
@@Whatshaname speaking of Arab the European and the US did the same to us also
About what does the Africa care?
I felt that too
Spoken like a true American hegemonic spokesperson.
YES Trevor you should be ashamed of yourself.
He's just an ignorant comedian who knows nothing about geopolitics but wants to chime in by parroting statement department propaganda. Stick to comedy Trevor, even if you are not that funny.
It's the saddest thing when "comedians" sell out.
US: How dare African gone into Chinese debt trap instead of ours!
US don't debt trap countries, too much trouble. They just rob them
The US will stage a coup and make a government that forces you to pick bananas.
US invades countries who didn't bend to them.
Like multiple coupes in South America
The US has a hands-on policy while China doesn't.
Exactly. Been looking for this thread. Glad I found it. For a minute there I was getting concerned...
Speaking of death, how do people feel? Don’t forget that when the Ebola attack in Africa, some people ran away very quickly. People who shouted human rights and freedom every day ran away first. Chinese doctors did not run but persisted to the end, this is a cultural difference
Well said
How's that working out with Covid-19? How helpful has China been, withholding information about the virus and silencing those who tried to make it known. You can be selective all you want in order to make your point but China is no saint. If you want to shackle the next few generations with a lifetime of debt then at least be honest about it
@@MsYolost So they're not people?Why do you speculate on them with such evil thoughts? You don't think they're scared?
对啊！我觉得这个节目需要考虑全面一点，内容太片面了！节目对社会是有责任的！
@@weinasg1371 这里的东西听了就算
I like how the leap is made from “China may take an airport in Uganda” to “China is colonizing Africa”. I don’t think people fully understand the extent of exploitation present in European colonization of Africa.
I agree but just because he says colonization doesn’t mean it’s EUROPEAN colonization. Obviously there are still effects of European colonization but (there could of been given more context) if you have followed Chinese and middle eastern movement in Africa there are aspects of colonization that are being mimicked like extraction of resources and labor
Its colonization 2.0
Yeah China is different cause .....oh wait...
Can't wait for China to impose their human rights policies on Africa when they can't meet their debt obligations.
@@MuhammedChand are you daft? Nepal is the latest example of how china uses money and ideology to destroy a civilization....Nepal and Sri lanka are struggling to get away from the red fasicsm...CIA under biden cant even keep peace in its own country...the days of such coups are over for CIA....where are China , they have been playing a different war by using banks,media,ngos and celebs with dying careers ...
I'm from algeria.... At least China don't start wars and destroying countries like USA did and still doing if u ask any african to choose between china or us and western countries 150% of them will choose china....Chinese r always welcome in Africa
when you said China debt is a trap ，you should offer Africa a better one！ I am sure China would not mind at all！
It is up to African countries to willingly go into the debt trap.
Lack of other options isn't an excuse for putting on more burden on themselves.
@@myopyaesone1062 You can’t build a poor country without debt, if only they had better options at least
well said. Japanese were brainwashed by their own government about China before WWII and Germans were brainwashed by their own government about Jews before WWII. Now the US government and its media are brainwashing people about China. America is leading the world down a very dangerous path. We've seen the war on Afghanistan using WMD pretext. In contrast, many Chinese people love America; they go to America for work or study. America used to a pillar of democracy for the world but it has changed.
Exactly
Totally agreed with your point !
Trevor, let's be honest here, it's not like the EU and USA are going to build anything over there. It's up to those African leaders to properly negotiate the loans and subsequently manage their affairs so they can be repaid. (instead of sending their families to Paris and Milan on shopping sprees). The Chinese are looking out to protect their interests and exposure, so should those African leaders. If anything, i blame those well educated African leaders who should know better for not performing their due diligence.
if only you knew how the world actually works
This is a very naive take on the world.
@@H3LLS4NG3L So, can you explain your own sophisticated take on the world? What @najee2 said is true. You cannot imagine the amount of corruption going on in the majority of these African countries. They take on all these Chinese infrastructure projects so that they can turn around and tell their fellow countrymen; hey look, we are doing things. But the common person there is unaware of the egregious terms and conditions of those loans. Meanwhile the same African leaders will send their kids to study in Europe and America, go abroad for medical treatments, and vacation overseas also. Heck, some will even fly business class to go watch Barcelona or Chealsea FC play. Meanwhile their stadiums back home are crumbling.
It is up to the African leaders to build their countries from the bottom up, and not turn to shortcuts. This idea that Africa is weak and so must be eternally aided must stop. If Africans cannot stand up for themselves, then no one will.
By the way, just a few decades ago, Chinese people were dying of starvation. But now China is one of the biggest economic powers. Why, because they decided to stand up for themselves. If they didn't, they'd still simply be the world's factory. But China has decided to unabashedly copy western technology and make some of their own. And it is working for them. The lesson here is that Africa can do things for themselves if they set out to do them. Not waiting on the next colonial power. First it was the Europeans, now the Chinese. Who will be next: The Arabs?
Lol, they know exactly what they’re doing, they simply don’t care cuz it doesn’t affect them personally, they’re rich beyond the 3rd generation and their kids usually don’t even stay in Africa, those leaders are simply businessmen and they pass down the sufferings to the people. They’re selfish and cowards and most of them if not all of them are sociopath and psychopath ( no feelings at all, no emotions) how can you live in a gold house when there’s no clean water no electricity and roads to the next town and you’re in charge, only socio/psychopath can sleep at night on those conditions 🤷🏾♂️ and that’s not only in Africa, almost every Black Country on earth got the same problem and don’t tell me it’s the whitemen, sure he doesn’t really help but the blame is 80% on us and I don’t see this ending anytime soon
They don't care about the people. They want the land
OK. OK. Unterstood. But wait: Why doesn’t the US provide or support Africa instead?
…Uhm coz they don’t care about Africa 🤷🏾♂️
They have alot of debt themselves 😂😅
They will rather support with bombs
*Murica first*
We do
according to Chatham House, in 2024 Chinese loans account for 12% of 90% African countries external debts, while western private and public debts account for 70%.
My father, as an employee of a Chinese company, spent 7 years from 2002 to 2009 in Benin, running a sugar factory. I have watched the tapes that recorded how they started all of it from building a factory in the middle of nothing. They spent years making the factory work and offered thousands of jobs to locals. They spoke French, because Benin was colonized by France since 19 century, and worked with locals. It is a win-win thing.
I don't understand why Chinese companies are always condemned as forced labor or invasion. What Chinese companies do is just the same thing those US companies, like NIKE, APPLE, TESLA keep doing in China for decades. Do they pay the same salary to Chinese workers as they pay the American managers? The Americans don't even speak Chinese to the workers. And you call it NEW colonization but ignore the fact of the establishment of US military bases all over the world? Great one.
None of that makes it ok for China to exploit Africa. No one should should be exploiting anyone.
I agree with this. People just never look at the bigger picture is all. They go with what the media says.
@@joshbrown7050 It is exploitation when it's done by China but upliftment when it's the US right?
This is for @Jamison
@@joshbrown7050 Yea, right after you robbed someone then you start saying robbery is a crime and everybody else should stop lol. How convenience. I will do the same as I was treated, I am not saint, if ppl fk me up before, I will fk someone up as well when I grow up.
Am so proud in all the comments most Africans are calling out the West(they been doing that for centuries) and blaming our leaders.
Trevor has really become American.
Ooh CCP bot
Keep blaming western leaders who weren’t even born when the west colonized Africa.
Am Kenyan.
@@MJJFilms Am calling out not blaming...the only people we blame are our elected leaders
You guys will be singing a different tune a decade or two from now and calling on the West to help dig you out of the deals you made with the CCP. Please remember your comment once this happens.
Wait.... are you saying someone in this world is giving away loans, send you their engineers, share their technology, train your workers to build infrastructure that will create jobs, make life better for everyone while circumventing local corruption to guarantee timely delivery, all without interest and collateral attached, and not even going to pressure you to repay? What a sucker!
Look here you all black mix race of African continent, if you starts thinking about your own people and let's letting all of greed's monsters robbery your children and your families, you can take cares of your own people and continent. Firsts of all, these forestness doesn't have any things to us blacks people, that name's of that old games they playing on a lot of us and others who's not able too uses they common senses and figure the people deserve to have it for themselves. Wake up your people, you cannot keep on giving what you don't have enough for your own people. Build more schools and days cares for your generation and have more younger people too helps them learning ablity, how to work into new of skills of this days of ages, but don't forget the oldest tradition ways, because you can get caught into modern day and when disasters entered back into our life, we doesn't seem to notice them, forget how takes of it. If you can how's protect your own world or homes land. The things those others countries, they don't want African black too be over anything's, but wants to be over your continent, as of leaders. Carefully how you makes agreement with others continents. You all people, just have a very, very blessed Happy New Year to world. Love , peace . Ms. maryagee1940@gmail.com
Well said! It's because of Chinese direct involvement in these projects that they do get completed in a timely manner and within budget. The railroad built in Kenya had mostly Chinese supervisors but all the laborers were locals but you wouldn't know it by watching these western propaganda shows.
Amurica: China only wants your resources!
Africa: that what you wanted, too, how's that different? Wait, there is a different, China paid for it, and you just took it by force!
Amurica: debt trap!
Africa: the debt came from infrastructure that is crucial to our future, and China gave us the best solution with best price. Without China, our debt would be much higher!
Amurica: but you can't afford to pay and you'll lose your sovereignty!
Africa: China's loan came with much lower interest! And when we can't pay, China will restructure the loan, at time even write it off! Unlike the West, you'll force us to pay with our most prized assets the moment we couldn't pay!
Amurica: but based on our research, Chinese debt is a trap!
Africa: so far our GDP, our life expectancy, our living standard have all improved since we dealt with China, so enlighten me with the "trap" please.
Amurica: just believe me, it's bad!
Africa: the last couple of times we choose to believe you, many of our people died!
Wrote by Simon King
I love your shows Trevor's. But that's not the angle we should be looking. First, debt is never a measure of progress. Japan has 237% dept to GDP ratio yet its one of the most advanced nations. Secondly, Africa has had over 60 years of close ties with western nations such as US and and Britain. Yet, we have struggled so long with poverty and infrastructure. China may have a political agenda, but at least we have global-standard railways, roads, electricity, water supply. Western style is simple: KEEP THEM POOR AND DEPENDENT. Chinese is also simple: MAKE THEM WEALTHIER BUT INDEBTED. I'd choose the latter anytime.
Exactly!!!!! When we invest in something, we aim at profits. When China spent a lot of money, they didn’t really expect to have profits, the main reason is to help African people to get out of poverty , which can maintain the world peace. If there’s anything in return, there would be some political support to China, which makes a better balance of the world super powers and development of all the countries. China knows very well, if you want a place to be wealthy, first you build a road. This episode is such a disappointment, cause you don’t see the significance change for the African people. Instead, you are calling the helper a bag guy. What’s the purpose? Do you prefer African people to be poor and always depend on the western countries?
...as always, "between a rock and a hard place"
China invests about 100 billion dollars in United States. In contrast China invests about 8 billion into the whole continent of Africa.... Yet western news outlets whines about how China is handing out money to Africa....
So "China holds 20% of the continent's debt", what about the other 80%?
What China is doing is actually building their consumer as they get wealthier. The Chinese Xiaomi phone and cars are very popular in Africa because they're affordable.
Hi Trevor, tell me what did the US build in Africa in the last decades? While there are hundreds of examples from China.
The USA, The UK, and France are funding wars to take the ressources without paying. They literally destroy Libya. The USA is extracting minerals ressources in DR Congo yet that country is not benefiting anything.
@@willboun8171 Why don't they get it themselfs?
Oh wait that would require effort which goes against the nature of Africans
Right, the Chinese are working in construction areas in Africa but u will never see not one white person in construction area after exploiting the continent for centuries.
Army bases
This "woke" punk is just here to feed us anti-China bs.
I always wonder how US got all the lands for their military bases all over the world.
By stealing it outright and pushing propaganda about "helping" and whatnot. The usual white savior complex bs. The same way the US became a country at all lol.
not by their kindness for sure.
@Rowbare Guam didn't ask the US to stay. US doesn't need Guams permission. It is part of US territory.
@@vsh137 it makes me sick the way the USA abused Guam citizens. I hope one day they finally make right the terrible abuses they put on those amazing people. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_testing_at_Bikini_Atoll
@Rowbare Philippines did, must be others. Host countries' governments sold out for the US bases but the citizens generally don't like them there.
The west owes African countries loads of money. Their influence has done nothing for Africa whereas at least China is getting something done for African countries.
In my opinion, bringing more jobs to other countries, improving infrastructure, and improving the economy of these countries is far better than starting wars all over the world, destroying other people's homes, and letting the world be in chaos all the time for their own (dollar) interests.
Except half the infrastructure China has built was with cheap products and the concrete and roads are already breaking down and it hasn't even been 20 years yet
@@mwara2444 speaking from an American who has potholes in front of his house being consistently worked on for 20 consecutive years lol
@@mwara2444 they are doing the same thing in other countries around the world. Jamaica is also on their takeover list.
I think that’s a little naive way to view this situation. I mean of course it’s better than starting wars, in the first place, but to put other countries into a situation of long term dependency trying to exploit their weak position, that’s not exactly peaceful either.
The problem is China isn’t “supporting” the economy their exploiting it
Well the reality is that China built more roads, rail roads, ports, air ports, dams, power plants in the last 30 years then US and Europe had done in the last 150 years. Am I right. And they don't make you make Chinese your official language.
Yet....
@@markthatcher9925 And Yet... Africa is doing better in the last 30 years with the Chinese then the last 150 years with the US and Europe. That is for sure!
@@bobcharles7716 For now...
In which language did the supervisor talk with African employee?
Europe built the cities and infrastrcture of present day Africa. China will build low quality stuff. Enjoy your " boom" while it lasts
Workers getting treated differently because of where they are from happens in a lot of places. Come to Hong Kong and see it for yourself. Western people gets paid much more than the locals even when they have similar education and credentials. These so called “expats” gets paid handsomely plus allowance to do a job other locals can. But because the companies are from the west, they feel the need to send over some one of their own to “offer international perspective” or to ”supervise” the local people
Hey, Trevor, why don’t you talk a bit about French neocolonialism in Africa? Or the IMF? There’s a reason African countries are choosing China over the West.
thank you.
He won’t do it because he is paid by the west to push their propaganda
Try to stick to the here and now.
The west and IMF won't give Africa money they know Africa can't pay. China knows this and wants to use it to take over.
@@wyclifmurungi772 they can repay it but they are too lazy and corrupt. If you have debt, you have to work hard to repay it. It is their decision to take the loan. China didn't force them.
What do you think US economic sanctions are for? They are meant to strangle other countries to keep them in line, and they are very effective. The US doesn't have to depend on loans
The US already used the exact same tactics. Read confessions of an economic hitman. It's very enlightening.
Dw they talk about America too
How are we trillions in debt?
@@RabidFlamingo not only economic sanctions. The US is employing gunboat diplomacies since the beginning of 20th century. American companies exploited south american and Caribbean nations with gunpoint of american military.
@@aaj3683 If that was true, there wouldn't be countries controlled by communist dictators like Venezuela & Cuba. Or strong socialist countries like Ecuador, Cuba, Bolivia, San Salvador, & Nicaragua. The US doesn't do business with Venezuela for obvious business, they pulled out or some kick out. The US is opening up with Cuba, slowly of course, but there is no economic sanctions with the rest of the Latin American countries
You can blame the US, but from where I have seen personally living in Mexico, it's been corrupt political members in many Latin American countries. Easy to blame, but when will we take responsibility of what we do to ourselves? Many are keeping an eye on the US, hence why the Chinese are easily moving in.
George Carlin would say "Americans don't like anyone trying to move in on our action."
Ah yes, China invest 300B into building infrastructure and megaprojects in Africa. Thus far, not a single government project has defaulted without restructuring. No debt-equity swaps have occurred. Once the projects are built, local workers are trained up to maintain them. The infrastructure belongs 100% to sovereign governments in Africa. This has been accomplished with less than 20% of Africa's total debt. Somehow these deals = colonialism?
Nigerian here, let me say this we take billions of dollars in loans yearly and most of it is taken by corrupt politicians it's like the new normal. Borrow money every year with little to show for it
Don't blame China, I don't think we even have plans to repay them loans
Just write a check to your Prince and send them all of your personal information then he'll fix the problem for you. I know because he sent me an email explaining how it works.
No we don’t, Nigeria owes China 4 billion dollars and currently pays back all her debts. Stop spreading misinformation.
Sounds about right. Countries in Africa, just like anywhere else in the world, including the U.S, have politicians that truly only care about what profit they are able to get. Caring about the people & the progression of the country is the last thing on their minds.
@@genebrooks5824 haha underrated comment right here
think james veitch has contact to something similar
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@@jj98154 your government is way more corrupt
Do you remember what happened to Thomas Sankara when he spoke about defeating the debt trap of white countries in the north? He was killed.
Funny you mention that, a very similar thing happened to John Magufuli, he was murdered after not giving into Big Pharma’s covid narrative....
@stryfetc1 Yes, really look him up and other African leaders that have been assassinated, Lumumba etc.
This is disgraceful, Trevor. China as you said is the only one willingly to invest in Africa at interest rates so ridiculous that nobody else would do it. Yes its for soft power but at the very least Africa has on-going infrastructure, which it so desperately needs to modernize its society and economy. China does have its interest in Africa but what it does differently is to use economic instead of military methods, because China wants Africa to prosper long terms so in turn China can prosper, no Chinese business man wants thier potential customers to fall into poverty, its not the Chinese ways of doing business. We don't rob, steal, or bomb our way into success, we create business opportunities for all.
I agree with you, I think if the china can help, all Africa should GO for it ! because tomorrow we never know who will be willing to help. Africa just need experts in front of the deals... especially to deal wisely about infrastructures and fabrics! BCUZ We need to understand most of the African countries are still very young, and their leaders just want to corrupt or CHILL.. they think war its over!
Here, here
China owns ports in Sri Lanka Jamaica and other countries. What does that tell you?
@@sawlty-suite5131 America has planted military bases across Asia, Africa, South America, Australia, Europe. What does that tell you?
@@sawlty-suite5131 This is why i dislike the main stream media, they tend to over simplified things to create a misleading narrative for its viewers. Lets go with Sri Lanka port, first off its not owned by China it was lease for 70% stake for 1.2B dollars for 99 years. Prior to the hand over, the management of the port was by the Sri Lanka Gov which did a bad managing it. The total foreign debt owed to China by Sri Lanka is 10%, so how it is a debt trap? Stop taking one narrative as the single truth. All I ask is critically analyse everything you hear
Business rule #1: There are no free lunches. The bill will come due someday.
The West to Africa :
"When the Missionaries arrived, the Africans had the land and the Missionaries had the Bible. They taught how to pray with our eyes closed. When we opened them, they had the land and we had the Bible."
- Uhuru Kenyata -
China :
"Whatever you are selling, I like it I pay for it".
- just that simple -
Well said!
You forget Islam. All foreign religions are bad for Africa.
@@ghostnights8538 what about islam ?? Turkey is doing great for themselves and the africans look it up. Islam is not foreign..its the truth.
China pay for what lol ? They are busy taking our land from us. China worst than any other nation. Chines hate dark skin people with a passion. Africa better wake up. Your dark skin is why they hate us so much. Bleaching will not solve it. 😂 just learn to love each other and build a better Africa.
Never focus on hate and negativity. Problem solving is what we should be working on.
Wow, very powerfully said!!!
*Here's a question for Trevor : How many African countries have been INVADED by China in the last 50 Years ??? Then ask how many have been INVADED by the US , Britain , France , Portugal, over that same time period ???*
Will that information change anything?
@@sawlty-suite5131 where are the US ,UK, French companies when applying for the contracts if you think you can do the same thing? You don’t like it?
How bwt in the next 50 years 🤔🤔🤔🙄
No, they are just invading quietly and with tricks. How do you think they’ve operated so far.
Zoom out
Hol' up. China actually built the infrastructure and made sure it was up and running, instead of saying "here's the money, it's your responsibility" and just waited to be able to allow private companies to swoop in and "privatise" government assets when they failed to execute and generate a profit. Is that.... worse? As opposed to European nations who just extracted and are still extracting to this day. The locals have to thank them for teaching them the Dutch, French and English languages though. Should help them get a job in Europe.
It's a sticky topic for sure my guy. By definition, if they were to take over the airport it would become a colony of China (a portion of land outside of a country belonging to said country). It's also not a situation if what China is doing is better than what the west or Europe has done, it's the fact that external powers are still exploiting Africa. China does mineral exploration and exploitation, so I would not be surprised if the airport was built so to easily transport raw materials.
In the short-term, sure what China has done has been beneficial. But this will be transient once China has got what they want or if Africans cannot maintain the infrastructure.
@@Denny_Boi so when a American company takes some assets in another country, say a mine, is that country a colony of USA?
@@euunul no, maybe there’s some other imperialist label you can put on it, but that’s not the same as chinese state owned companies taking over national infrastructure.
It’s insane how much of what Trevor saying is inaccurate. Much of the academic community focused on China-Africa relations has been upset with how immaculate this video was
"here is your money, we just printed it, you want more?we will print more…"
China is a blessing for Africa. Africa is lucky if ANY country is willing to invest and work in Africa. Consider it a blessing. All others have left and won't return. Corruption everywhere, lazy people. Africa will never catch up with the world or improve without someone else driving progress or any action for them.
It’s exactly what the IMF does to third world countries. The Double standard is too much. The US has short term amnesia
It is not amnesia, it is a superiority complex, and a bit of a jealousy. Basically if it is not US, then it is wrong if other country dare to do the exact same thing!
He know the US is doing it, his topic is about China...keep up!
In fact, the IMF is much more stingy than the Chinese, and the West's attitude towards Africans is much worse than the Chinese.
The USA has a long history of gaslighting and instilling a since of inferiority in its Black population. Its somewhat convinced tje world but to a less successful extent. It's a Nation that can't be tall unless there's someone on thier knees. Target no 1 African people. Target no 2 the poor. Africa figured this out long ago of Western obsession of denigrating and slandering of sub Sahara Africans so they pulled away and choose China. The Airport seizures and port captures have been debunked by articles and videos of people who are unbiased and understand what is actually going on. Economic trade, business, and international allies is what China is seeking. They aren't innocent but there's no colonization or takeover. Africa keeps Chinese engineers and builders employed as China hit a building saturation point around 2010. A black face is ment to make it believable. Trevor your great but this one I can't ride with you.
you absolute bot
Trevor- your really need to say a couple of sentences about WHY the continent needs that money - the people and resources stolen from them!
That was my question. Why does Africa need the money. Why is Africa allowing these international countries to usurp their resources? Why can’t Africa be self sufficient?
@@LovehardFightharder_ those questions can be easily answered with research into how the West has used Africa.
@@web-angel Yes , but Africa has allowed it. Why?
Africa has not allowed anything, It is reestabling itself from the ruins of colonialism. Africans now understand their voice matters. That is why they have stood up and make a decision to choose China and now the colonial countries are complaining. Africa is uniting and moving ahead.
Africa does not need money from western countries, in fact aid has done more damage to Africa. Technology, Education and is what it needs and they have been developing to that. Cz it has resources and no technology/machinery to get the resources. That is Why leaders like Mandela emphasized on Education. Not that Africans are illiterate. The world system is a bit westernized. I think Africans are very smart,cz they learn their education and also foreign education which most Europeans and western people never learn beyond their own and stick to their continents.
You are a smart individual. He correctly predicted China's intentions. Tell us what America is doing in Africa and the Middle East right now?
Idk can u tell us?
But my guess is NOTHING not our business:)
What about all the aid supplies over the past several decades?
bombs n more bombs...!
@@kike77772014 bombs and more bombs.
@@fankefang is that a fact? Or is that something ur just saying cuz love doing that?.
US military bases in Africa: 29
Chinese military bases in Africa: 0
Russian military bases in Africa: 0
Who would you trade with?
Roads , bridges, railways ,ports , airports etc. These infrastructures are the very foundations of economic development. You don't talk about how important these things are to African people but focus on the how China can get influence by assistanting African? Isn't it ridiculous?
No, because it's the truth, what's the point of having all that when your landlord owns the land and demands the profits!? Ridiculous.
@@GoGoPooerRangers Except it's not the truth. The lender will not become the landlord. You still own your asset, building and land. But you sign the contract of its management to the lender for certain period of time. The more money you owe them and can't afford to pay, the longer time of the contract. Is it fair ? Well, you tell me. Do you prefer to have something or nothing at all ?
@@GoGoPooerRangers how are you soo immature and idealistic, prove your self with concrete evidence
These roads and infrastructure projects are built so that Chinese companies can extract resources from these countries as efficiently as possible. You really think that these massive railways and ports are meant for regular people?! lol
@@indrek12345 really?? Even hospitals? And public transports? They are not even capable of carrying resources, go fly a kite man.
My friend from Ghana said China has improve vastly their economy and everyday live that he wants to move back because the quality of life if better there than in the USA. I don't blame him.
I know that the Chinese are often very strict bosses. But I also know that they are 100 times fairer in Africa than the imperialist warmongers from the west.
China is also the country that accepts the largest number of African students in the world at its own expense.
China does nothing g for free and they are probably going to make those students slaves
I wish you do a little more research you’ll know the truth rather than praising
@@bubbles3042 that is dumb. China educates those African students so they can go back to Africa to better manage businesses. you have no clue. do you even know an AFrican?
@@Amidat yes I do know some Africians n worked with them. They were just glad to be here. They are very kind sweet people who would rather be in a truly free n prosperous country of there own. They know very much what chineese trap is all about.
@@bubbles3042 Slaves. Wow that reminds me of American's history and africa's colonialism by the west. Don't forget what Belgiums did to the people of congo. More than 10 million african was killed during Belgium's colonization of Congo. There are even more story than this but we can just leave that for now.
Atleast other countries are getting infrastructure from China loans look at the countries that owe western countries loans have no infrastructure and they are dirt poor but the western countries own all the mining companies plundering the resources and they regulate African minerals.... Nigeria should be the richest country in Africa over Morocco,Algeria,Egypt and South Africa but it's in so much debt from European loans and they hold its oil ransom...you have countries like Mali,Chad,Burkina Faso and i can name few. Right now in Djibouti Europe countries have army bases and using that poor country paying peanuts...they will never help civilize that country they need it poor so they can control the government.
Very much should’ve been said in this video that the US and Western governments including France have been engaging in similar and more severe economic colonialism for decades. Chile, Trinidad, Panama, Middle Eastern oil countries (i.e. British Petroleum’s inception), and the list goes on and on. It’s a harmful deception to portray this as an abuse by China without the context that more severely economic colonial models are the current Western economic model and its foundation.
We haven’t merely engaged in predatory loans (which we also do and did). US funded contractors known to be white supremacist death squads to assist coups and toppling governments including democratic Chile’s Allende in order to obtain US company ownership of natural resources. Dutch attempt to steal Ethiopian injera and colonize their market. The list is literally dozens of books long.
Grow up. People complain if people are over there “colonizing” and you same people complain if we do nothing. Africa should appreciate china and other countries doing this. Africans just can’t figure it out.
So true
@@alkdjfhgks1919 America developed Saudi Arabia, because it had a natural resource America wanted, oil. Saudi Arabia now enjoys wildly higher standards of life and development.
China is literally building Africa's skyline as I type. And countries who work with China will enjoy higher standards of life. America has nothing to offer, really anyone anymore.
@@alkdjfhgks1919 I'm American, but educated (beyond comedians posing as journalists) and objective. America is in decline, the most indebted nation probably in world history, completely divided, and cannot do anything pragmatic or economic for Africa.
Corny African-themed Marvel movies don't build roads in developing countries.
Am Ugandan and I can assure you African is still colonized by the west and under their rule African hasn't developed except exploitation. If the Chinese take over property and develop it actually it helps and improves the lives and wellbeing of the locals.
You think china is our friend..... They are all the same the come to take.. No body cares....
@@jakem1273 I know but unlike our western friends at least the Chinese are leaving infrastructure behind which I would choose over the white mans double standard democry ,human rights and Christianity B.S
How does African village mayors making it illegal for African women to marry other Africans help Africa?
@@deejaydonj Haha. Chinease are not leaving infrastructure behind. They are building to take it along with your land and location for them to utilize. Soon you will be tossed out of your own land.
Thank you. At least I believe that Chinese people will be kind even if they want to make money. Because there is no colonialism in our culture, but the peaceful creation of wealth and win-win cooperation
I hope Trevor does a segment on the U.S. in Africa. China uses finance. The U.S. uses the military. The U.S. has the world divided into military commands. The newest is Africom. It is one of the eleven unified combatant commands. It was created in 2007. If I was an African country and the choice was financial or military, I’d pick financial. They both have consequences, but money has a much better return.
Exactly, not only him any one can do that, USA and Europe have the racist foreign policy on Africa. That is why China took over.
He wouldn't do it because he is never about calling it what it is, it doesn't benefit American agenda
@@nafkiamissac777 Also the USA rules the world through destabilizing countries and funding leaders. Yeah, they make a mess and steal what's left. China builds and develops. Guess what approach many African countries favor? And yeah, Trevor is sharp, but his tongue is owned.
He's a sellout. It would be interesting if he showed what's under US's dress
The USA needs to shift their paradigm beyond poles. They are over-militarised, thinking they are the world's remaining superpower. Ha ha...that huge army can't solve any problems, and meanwhile the countries who use economic and technological strength come in achieve what the military can't. It's not 1945 anymore, Yanks...
At least China is making huge progress in infrastructure in Africa. The west has been there for a centuries and what has happened? Just supporting rebel groups with weapons. China doesn't impose hypocritical moral values on Africa and just creates a win-win of economic boom. (jobs, infrastructure, etc)
When Ebola ravaged Africa, all Western Japanese medical aid workers ran away, leaving only the Chinese medical team to guard there.
Yup i heard about that one
The anti china propaganda is so effective.. just like the red scare and anti USSR propaganda
So Japan pulled out, what does that have to do with anything else. Way to deflect from the point my friend
And when Covid came they ran away saying Africa will perish . We are still here .
They need our resources this pandemic made them realize that.
I thought America helped also?
China is now building big infrastructure projects in Africa, the USA and England never did anything to help them !
But what is the end game?
@@orisirisishop We(USA) own to China 1.2 trillion dollars big time, we are in the same boat !!
Simply
@@orisirisishop agreement is agreement payment no matter how long!
@@jordancarpenter4093 Don't worry, the US never intends to pay any debt back, it just keep increasing ....
Wait, who is wondering “how can another country take another country’s airport?” The USA has military bases in over 80 countries, why should we be so special?
600 bases overseas, it's just crazy how imperialism is normalized
I mean most bases are in ally countries
@@YummyRage Yes but still if those countries are "allies" is it really to have that much military coverage, if I'm not wrong the only Anti American country which(may) really pose a threat (militarily speaking) to the U. S and is near those allied countries of whom most are in Europe is Russia ;but apart from Russia I don't think that The U. S need that much of military dominance if it already has economic and diplomatic dominance.
@@mutabazimichael8404 I mean the u.s does claim it's self as international "peace" keeper that's why some countries that have bases in the south America and island don't have a big military as u can have a u.s base and be set for a while
@@YummyRage with all due respect how many times has "The Leader of the free world" ordered a coup in a foreign country including many in South America, as you say yourself, "it calls Itself the international peacekeeper" but does it really act like it even the U. S like any big country act out of self interest , that's all I am saying.
Trevor is not talking as an African, he is talking as US government mouthpiece
"There are two ways to conquer and enslave a nation. One is by the sword. The other is debt" - John Adams
Ffs stop toeing the anti china line. China literally provided EVIDENCE of never confiscating, and you're reinterpreting that as a threat... There's a reason they chose china, any loan from the west would've both been more expensive AND had political AND economic strings attached- true colonialism. I didn't realize you were so biased until now
Meanwhile evergrande can't repay its loans to western debtors and you're salivating over selling its assets
@@goldsilvervscrisiscollapse4320 CCP bot stop it lol 😂. Even your name is hilarious.
@@orkkojit This accusation is just evidence that you can't fight me logically, on an intellectual basis, and must resort to some unprovable accusation that actually makes no sense, especially when considering how well I've been able to linguistically dominate you.
@@aidk23 and is the US complaining about being in a debt trap?
Atleast in the latter the beneficiary has a choice. African countries prefer China because china doesn't interfere with their internal issues.
I really like Trevor but on this one I beg to differ. Chinese loans are way better than the US meddling in African political affairs
But China is also meddling in Africa by controlling their international policy and threatening to take away their infrastructure. Both are bad for different reasons.
So "China holds 20% of the continent's debt", what about the other 80%?
Soon you wont have dogs and frogs lol
Sure as long you are happy to let go of land, ports and strategic resources ....all wealth will go to politicians and Chinese.....a faustian choice
@@valerienaidoo3853 another western MSM propagandist
I found the argument pretty weak, that chinese workers are brought as supervisors and get a higher average pay. I mean you can bet that in BMW factories in China a lot of the high ranking positions are held by Germans as well and so their average pay would be. a lot higher as well. I really wouldn't say that this is something unique to China.
If Chinese workers in Africa were paid less, ppl like Trevor will argue that these Chinese are forced laboring...
Even the Chinese wanted to hire native professionals, they wouldn't find the right candidates.
Agreed. When China just opened it market in 1980s. There are a lot of west people worked in China paid much more than Chinese workers. The view in this video is so biased.
And likewise. Africans or any other foreigners that go to China to work as skilled talent likely earn higher wages than their local counterparts. Otherwise their wouldn’t be an incentive for people to leave their home countries.
@@MamaMeya you are a lie
What is your problem since the west doesnt talk about the injustices they've done to Africa.China is being fair.Take your bitterness somewhere else.
The problem is not the loans..the problem is our leaders take the money and not use it for purpose it was loan for..and loan again etc..we can pay back..the problem is the leaders are stealing it for their own..tax payers later have to repay forcing the country to go in debt and economic crisis etc
100%
I am from Central Asia and we have an absolutely similar situation with China, so I think I can make a comment on this topic
1) Ordinary Africans themselves are to blame for this problem, just as here in Central Asia we are to blame for a government that prefers to take out loans and fall into a debt trap of slavery, rather than cope on its own or look for better options, for example, in Africa, there are countries that use European loans such as Mauritania or Nigeria, provided that they do something to democratize the government.
2) People have every right to dislike Chinese people who live in China, firstly because I was in China and most people in China are proud of the actions of their government (at least in 2012), and secondly, people who work in Chinese companies that pump natural resources from the countries of China's creditors, absolutely everyone is proud of their special status that they receive in the host country, I say from personal experience, they themselves prefer to segregate, not only from local but also from Chinese who are engaged in smaller positions, this is also observed in China and in other countries but in Eastern culture it is very archaic
true, I am seeing this in Africa for a while
great segment. now the key question is: what is the alternative? who else is going to help build up africa's infrastructure with no strings attached? there is no altruism in international politics.
why dont you read Vijay Prashad and Pepe Escobar to learn more?
there ARE strings attached.
One question, how would adding more infrastructure affect climate change and the creatures that are a big part of the continent. Would they be destroyed, become extinct or become attractions in a zoo.
@@louisecollard2320 many people in Africa don’t even have food on their table, and this is what you are worried about?
Who in the world would loan big amounts without collateral? All contracts need offer and acceptance as part of the forming of contracts. Contracts under duress are also unenforceable. If they aren't happy with the terms they are free to find loans at other places
Haha, What China is actually doing vs What America thinks China is doing from their history vs What the media wants you to think China is doing.
This absolutely true and happening in some African countries but majority of African leaders are quiet about it.
Because they are in it , corruption
As a Kenyan, we are very concerned with the borrowing and the debts. Something has to be done
Debts are still better than American Drones and Freedom!
Malaysia rewrote their contracts with China because they weren't equitable for the people of Malaysia.
@@sumeersamarat706 Wow, you hate freedom. I feel sorry for you. Namaste. What do you espouse slavery?
It starts with saying no to the money.
Don't worry, China is also buying America's debts.