BLUFFING for 200bb at $10/$20
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- This week I share online poker hands that include a questionable semi-bluff vs a rec, an attempt to make a potential bot fold for 200bb at 2knl and then whale around in two multi-way hands!
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My new favorite poker content on TH-cam. As a live pro that’s dabbling into playing 100nl online to improve and study more I’m very happy to have come across you.
really appreciate that mate 🙏
Phenomenal video, Ben! I've watched them all, love the production quality, commentary, flow. Everything is amazing! Finally got a chance to sub and comment from my computer, instead of just watching on the tele app. Keep 'em coming - bravo! :)
thanks Matt 🙏 thanks for stopping by and subbing. much more to come 😻
Looking forward to the ignition outing! Nice vid
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Loving the format Bena. Keep it up.
thanks joe 🙏
Another great video, Ben. Very thoughtful analysis. Thanks!
ayy ty mate!
Love all your videos, please keep making them ❤
yes mate! much appreciated 🙏
Great video! Loved the A6s hand, well played mate!
thanks a lot mate!
Great video as always Ben! Also looking forward to the ignition outing. Ignition being a safe place to play is crucial for the poker ecosystem, specially because it is one of the few options that US and AUS players have
appreciate this comment a lot. totally agree 🙏❤️
Ben, I just looove your thought process it's so clear + you're like a beacon of knowledge in the world of hsp
yooo thanks bro! since it’s in your name, I just started playing chess. I’m a total whale, any tips??
Nice vid man. Looking forward to the bot update🍿
incoming captain
Animations and video flow are nutty, keeping pumping them out brother as I sit here and do the same 😈
chub on chub action
Hey Ben, really enjoy your videos.
I just wanted to say that Saulo Costa mentioned bots on ignition too recently. I think it would be great to make colab and maybe even post it on his chanel to reach broader audience and make more people aware.
Wish you all the best!❤
that would be great! I think saulo is too big time for me tho 🤣
I really like the A6dd bluff actually. I can't believe you got it through but the more I think about it the more sense it makes to me. great stuff!
very spicy one, thank you!
@@BenaBadBeatPokerare you really calling twice with Q3s and T3s on turn? i would expect you to usually raise those when the sb bets along with 33
potentially yes. the more realistic part of my range that I’m repping is Ahi hearts though. the boats are just a nice addition to the hands I can hold making our fold equity go up
Great video, your thought process for your extremely spicy hand histories was very thought provoking and well explained, but that ain’t gonna stop the comments slaughtering you 😂❤
ahahaha this ain’t ig reels pal
Small blind is a LARGE....... w h o p p e r :)
loooool it came out so weirdly
Wake up Mum! Another Bena punt...
Mum: I know he already showed me.
Me: 😮
ahaha
Yeeeee let's go Ben!
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I'm a calling station but I'm not folding a straight when a backdoor flush comes in because it seems obvious you have the missed frontdoor flush just as often.
haha fair enough! luckily it wasn’t you I was trying to make fold hahaha
Awesome work, Ben
hey mate! yeah it’s definitely a theoretical punt, but if playing on iggy has taught me anything, the people colluding/botting are not making money through playing ‘good poker’ haha. obviously this could just be a reg spicing around though
I hope we get to see sheriff Bena more often with the street poker hands 🍿
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Awesome video, think the A6dd hand is actually a very strong play. Super easy to not think about it and just xf.
thank you!!!
Same thoughts as you for both A6dd and 88 hands. I am assuming IP raises turn a lot w AQ
thank you! yeah totally agree 🙏
Really like the A6d hand, not sure on the size big enough. A problem might be if reg decides that you have too few FH and decides to shove a Qx or 2p type hand vs that size and push you off your bluff though.
yeah I didn’t really consider the reg bluffing ip tbh. I think people will be very reluctant to do that in this specific node too.
What do you think about the 200 and 500z tables on ignition, the fast fold format makes collusion very hard, perhaps those tables are slightly safer compared to regular tables?
I don’t play either of those games but I have heard that even the colluders are there. but yeah, technically it should make cheating less likely!
but bots play 200 and 500z tables on ignition as well, since they play on 200 blitz on ACR
The A6 bluff was sick af. Made perfect sense
🙏🙏if we get called maybe it never makes its way onto TH-cam 🤣
@BenaBadBeatPoker I'm saving that as one of my favorite plays ever tbh
How about clickraising 88 on the river?
definitely an option! but if I didn’t have an 8 would I really ever do that? and also rec can now fold all sorts of potential chop calls
@@BenaBadBeatPoker it would be a low freq bluff like your 3b pre. Perhaps with 99 that at least blocks some 98s
I don’t think the Ad6d is spew. I agree the rec will most likely lead his value hands. Also the river severely devalues the range ip was representing on the turn. Not ideal to block diamonds but as you mentioned in this spot we don’t really have any other bluffs to choose from.
thank you! glad you thought it was reasonable
Excellent video as always Ben! Honestly, No doubt there are bots on many sites, but I think its really easy to over estimate this. That KTs hand would not really make me think villain was a bot tbh.
totally fair yep! obviously so hard to tell. in the next video we got some juice though 🤣
@@BenaBadBeatPoker How do you feel about his rounded sizings (ie using $260 and $1700)?
notable for sure but don’t wanna say too much bout specifics publicly
Small blind is a large whopper 😂
lmao
I really struggle to play the spot you find yourself in at 09:00.
After villains have continued 2 streets and re polarised to an extent OTT, I’m suddenly in a bloated pot looking down at a chunk of their folding range. Ax Diamonds have (in my mind) flipped from the best turn barrels to worst river bluff candidates and I struggle to navigate the spot. As a result, I’m giving up a lot of Ax Diamonds, and following through with lower diamond draws, although not nearly as often on a flush and boat completing river card.
Not sure if it’s costing me EV or it’s too marginal to worry about. Love the content as per.
hey mate, thanks for your thoughts. tbh this is such a specific pot and not one where you’re going to gain all that much EV at all by bluffing or not bluffing. as you can probably see in the comments, plenty of people think the A6 bluff is not good, and they could totally be right. for me as long as I’m injecting as much logic into situations, i don’t really mind making potential blunders. I think the worst thing we can do is be super face up in spots and allow our opponents to exploit us. but that also doesn’t mean getting super out of line whenever we have the chance hahs. overall, don’t sweat these type of hands - focus on expanding your thought process and show constant curiosity in hands. good luck!
Seems like you are consistently out leveling yourself. The A6 diamonds hand is never a bad play 3way with a fish, prob standard no? I love the river bet. The K10 hearts hand seemed super spewy though, once there turn shove over cr would have been my play. But i wouldn't have been that deep in the hand 200bb oop. I like this series though, good stuff
i could be levelling myself! but i also think that not thinking in great depth is detrimental to wr for sure. glad you like the A6 - it's definitely not standard in my opinion though :D KThh, i'm IP, not OOP - and why would you not be 200bb deep? we don't really have control over that! shoving the turn could certainly be an option yep. but ap i think river bluff is also mandatory. thanks for watching! much appreciated
Showing the 6 was probably the best play of that hand
lmao had to be done
Scenes again
blessed to have you here 😻
It’s under bet folded spot cause recs thinks that you have only draws in range they don’t wanna be pushed off their hands, bencb talked about this in his last video
noted 🙏🙏
That A6 was gangster idgaf what anyone says
my guy
Is there a reason we use sizes like 27% or 52% on a bet slider? I always thought it was to gain microscopic amounts of EV vs regs who studied conventional 25% and 50% sizes. But does it really make a diference since no one is playing perfect frequencies post flop? Also if we studied conventional sizes like 25% and use 27% aren’t we also giving up microscopic amount of EV by not using the size we studied? 😂😂😂
yep you’re right - gives up no ev at all. These are just the sizes I have in my sim library (blame Clanty) so that’s why!
Love the A6s bluff but hate the show, even if they do get to see it the next day.
haha they don’t get to see that one, but with recreationals it’s always kinda fun to show cards. especially in very specific and rare nodes like 3 way pots!
A6 hand is spicy as. I'd 100% Shrug XF there for fear of looking a muppet :>
hahaha sometimes gotta look like a muppet
No need to worry Bena, luckily for us the kind folks over at GG poker will be purging the games of anyone that's even sniffed a winning session in the near future, so there'll be no need for you to contest with those pesky bots and you can get back to doing your bollocks vs whoppers in peace
lmaoooooo thank god
If the A8 guy could see your cards he would play the hand 100% the same way
hahaha very true. but i think it’s unlikely!
Wait, do you actually believe that is an optional A6s bluff?
it is always an option yes
You explain your reasoning very well. Don’t you think we should boycott ignition if they won’t take cheating seriously?
thank you mate! in theory, yes, a boycott is the best solution. sadly with anon pools, boycott's become almost impossible because there'll be some rat-regs that'll try take advantage of less regs. this happened on stars back in the day and that was with screen names lol. i don't think it's impossible fwiw, just very hard to orchestrate
Well, if we as players, figure out how to make cheating not profitable, it will stop.
I am not the guy to ask for solutions to that problem, though.
I barely win at 25z.
totally valid still mate! wish we could organise something
If ignition games are so bad, why don’t you play more say on ACR? There are safer high stakes games running there consistently
Ignition is daddy.
I play plenty of acr but in my timezone there are very few 2k+ games running. I love playing there though!
I thought you didn’t play much there because you have never shown hands from there and everytime I rail the tables I’ve never seen you, but I believe you
I don’t play 1k on acr, that’s probably why. also funnily enough we have a very big pot from acr 3k next week!
@@BenaBadBeatPoker LFG!!
Dislike the A6dd bluff 3 way w a rec in hand - you don't HAVE to have bluffs in every spot. Bluffing creates incentive for your good hands to get paid, but here your good hands will get paid even when you don't have bluffs, and it's unlikely your bluff generates enough FE 3 way to make it profitable, in most cases- unless the rec is overfolding absolute strength hands alot, which usually is not the case
can definitely agree with your reasoning! but I still strongly think that we will gain plenty of information from 1) the rec over leading river, with good hands, 2) the fact that they’re naturally more likely to fold the river 3 way, as well as 3) calling turn too wide not appreciating their defence burden. I think these three things combined more than make up for the times the rec makes a sticky call. but I could be being results oriented though!
@@BenaBadBeatPoker yeah, its hard to quantify given 3 players. i think the main issue i have is if any of our assumptions are wrong, then we can be really wrong, and if they are right, its very marginal as is. but your reasoning is still solid, just seems a bit shaky in the cases we are wrong, and not sure the difference makes up for it on average
yeah can’t argue that it’s shaky at best hahaha. fun one tho!
@BenaBadBeatPoker was curious and did a deeper analysis on the spot. My take away was:
It really boils down to how FQ the rec leads top of range on river.
I think IP is going to fold KJ at some FQ here, but prob not pure, so his call FQ will be relevant given how narrow his landing range is on the river. However, it's unlikely he has much hearts that raise turn given he probably doesn't want to risk getting jammed on, so his range is likely condensed around mid strength on this river, TPTK, straights, two pair, and think good chunk does fold to the lead, so I think he might call something like 10-20% depending how his perception of you and how he actually plays turn
I gave the rec a lead w 33% of his top of range, and that brought our bluff to around the breakeven threshold. If he under leads, the bluff becomes unprofitable, if he overleads, say pure, it becomes very profitable. So still pretty grey overall, but it's at least reasonable. Your specific notes on player will help alot determining when to do this for sure
I'm just not sure if it's better to go for it and find out, or patiently wait to observe if it's likely to be profitable. I guess MDA might suggest recs lead top of range(not sure on this), but if so, then makes bluff more logical. It also gives us opportunity to potentially understand their game immediately, so even if unprofitable this time, can help us make more informed decisions in future(benefit of the aggressive approach)
super helpful analysis! interesting to hear if the rec leads top 33% it becomes break even - very good to way to think about it. and ofc as you say, its grey so we'll never truly know. in fairness i didn't have any solid solid reads on this specific rec, so maybe it's just a torch!
think you got owned... by a bot XD
haha who knows!
Player one is likely a bot. Actually you can just assume most of those guys at 1k are bots, a lot of regs left ignition already
can confirm. today the games were legit pure bot
@@BenaBadBeatPoker I am worried online poker is falling apart, it’s a big fear
well since the day I started poker (15 years ago) people have been saying poker is about to die. I am still very optimistic tbh 🙏
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too quick
Everyone cheating only way mighty Ben loose KT perfect can’t belive A8 rigged online poker never see rumours like this in real poker
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ACR is rigged
haha maybe!
HOW IS THIS LEVEL OF ANALYSIS FREE????? WEN ONLYFANS
lmfao
Nah the A6dd bluff is very good. In my opinion IP has even AQo when you flat v the recreational, could expect bigger leads from stronger hands and expect you to be quite capped. Wouldn’t say AQo raise is a mistake probably just good, most are not gonna bluff river in your spot.
yeah AQ was a hand i didn't mention and i totally agree with you!
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@@BenaBadBeatPoker finally a response thx ♥️ stack builderman for me 😂