Tom Brady or Jerry Rice: Who’s the NFL GOAT? | NFL | UNDISPUTED
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- A Boston columnist made waves by claiming Jerry Rice is the NFL’s true GOAT, not Tom Brady. Skip and Shannon take a look at whether or not that claim is true.
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Who is the NFL GOAT: Tom Brady or Jerry Rice?
Biggest Brady groupie over here, and I gotta go with LT.
@The Goats FOH
Brady
LT
Nick Givens same here
To match Jerry Rice career stats a WR would have to average 104 rec, 1526 yards, and 13 TD’s for 15 seasons!!! That is unbelievable, he is the GOAT.
For wide receivers as a player no. In order to be the goat of all players u have to be a all around player like basketball. Is it hard? yes. Is it impossible? no
Jbird who is your goat?
@@JabrenHarris98 HE NOT THE GREATEST PLAYER AND HE DIDNT TRANSCEND THE SPORT LOL
@@coreythomas3633 I never said he was if u actually read I said as a wide receiver he’s the goat. But for all players no on is the goat not even Brady.
@@TheFlowBrothers When it comes to wide receiver and cornerback Jerry Rice and Night Train Lane are my goats. Because those are the two positions I play.
Tom Brady is GOAT in Quarterback position, and Jerry Rice is GOAT in Wide Receiver position.
Agreed, you cannot fairly compare football players of different positions.
LT is the GOAT overall
And Tom is the GOAT cheater
Aaron Rodgers is better than Brady every year that's the goat sorry
DJaySplitSecond do what u gotta do to win. Also stop bitching
No one:
Skip: I was there
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Where was he?
There
We where there or watch it to skip bayless 🤦♂️
He was there 😤
Skip was at my birth in Los Angeles in 1998
Ask my dad, he was covering my family that year
Shannon said after sb51 “Tom Brady is the greatest football player in the 90 something year history of the nfl”...go watch the video if you don’t believe it
He said no debate too lmao
People aren’t allowed to have a change of opinion? Greatest of anything will always be debatable because they’re based on one’s opinions.
Sam Aa He won a super bowl after that and is still playing, but I guess retired players get better? Probably just hopped on the gate bandwagon like most bandwagons did.
2:39 "if he wins this game he passes Jerry, he passes LT, and a lot of people say Jim Brown"
He also said MJ was the GOAT even after Lebron won in 2016. He said it would take more chips for Lebron to be in the conversation. Fast forward a few finals losses later and he is the biggest Bronsexual ever. 🤦♂️
Skip comparing Irving to Rice might be the most outlandish thing I’ve ever heard
THANK YOU!!!!!!!!
I hate when he overrates Irvin. It’s pure cowboy bias. Just like when he says Charles Haley is better than Reggie White.
Who’s the goat Tom Brady or rice
Lawrence Taylor and Jim brown: allow us to reintroduce ourselves
What exactly did Jim Brown accomplish?
WebDev 3x MVP, 9x pro bowl, 8x First team all pro, 1x second team all pro, Rookie of the year, 8x rush yards leader, 5x Rush TD leader
1964 NFL champion
60s all decade team
NFL 50th, 75th, and 100th anniversary team
Retired as the all time leader in rush yards and TDs
NFL record 104 rushing yards per game
I agree on Jim Brown
Reggie white was better than LT. IMO he's the best defensive player ever.
And deion
Skip “i was there” bayles
Exactly, that's his favorite line
That and “chosen one became the frozen one”
Jerry has:
-41 more receiving TDs than 2nd place, Randy Moss
-5,800 more receiving yards than 2nd place, Larry Fitzgerald
-Also 3 Super Bowls, 1 Super Bowl MVP (11 catches, 215 yards against Cincy)
-589 yards and 8 TDs in 4 Super Bowl Appearances
🤯
Jerry also had not 1, not 2, but 3 MVP quarterbacks in their prime throughout his career.
@@CaptanF0rever and Brady had the GOAT coach, a top 10 defense almost every year, and Gronk Smash
HeartlessXiao What did Belichick accomplish without Brady that makes him the GOAT?
@@adriangarza6452 what about the top 10 defense every year or Brady gets credit for that too?
HeartlessXiao I mean, in some ways yeah, he was the undisputed leader of the winning culture in NE amongst players. He obviously doesn’t deserve all the credit or even a majority of it, but there are defensive coordinators and position coaches who work in tandem with BB to make it work. It’s a team sport. That being said, you didn’t answer my question. What has BB accomplished without Tom Brady that makes him the GOAT? Because he’s been coaching a lot longer than Brady has been playing and he had a losing record before Brady showed up.
Shannon Sharpe: “Tom Brady is the greatest player in the 98-year history of the NFL.” Dude said this right after the Patriots beat the Falcons in the Super Bowl...so what changed 🤔?
And he won another superbowl
its a debate show lol he needs to play devil's advocate otherwise who would watch a show where they agree on everything lol
Diego Sandoval yeah people don't seem to get that
Shannon will never like anybody who doesn't echo his radical leftist viewpoints.
@@jasonwashere8016 Well as a Patriots fan, where's his racism when it comes to Aaron Rodgers? Cause he loves that guy lol
Bo Jackson was the GOAT in temco football.
Not so. The Chiefs Christian Okoye was just as good. Bo was faster, but Okoye could break more tackles.
Its called Tecmo Bowl.
Falo you’re right my fingers are faster than my eyes.
Um, I’ve never heard of Temco bowl, must be a great game. But tecmo bowl....that’s a great game.
Sam Petraglia I’ve already addressed my typo.
Shannon is salty the way Skip treats Lebron so he does the same to TB12 🤣
100%
It's definitely more the other way around
But Brady isn't the GOAT
@@willseest3732 but he is...
@This Is What Awesome Looks Like you can't compare players from different eras based on just skill, you compare them to how dominant they were in the era they played. Brady has gone to 9 sbs in HIS era.. you're the casual for not realizing that.
Wrong! Jerry Rice won MVP twice! When there were four different MVP voting organizations, Jerry Rice won MVP in 1987 & 1990. Jerry Rice was voted by the Associated Press NFL MVP award, the Pro Football Writers Association NFL MVP award and the Sporting News NFL Player of the Year award in 1987 and 1990... this would make Jerry Rice a two time MVP of the league.
That why he the goat
I believe Skip has a picture of Tom Brady in his wallet next to one of Earnestine.
I believe it
I do too a pic of Brady right next to your mom
😂😂
Zeke picture
🤣
I’m not a Brady fan, but I gotta give it up him. He’s the GOAT. That man just knows how to win, and the super bowls speak for themselves.
What team has been caught at least twice for CHEATING? IMO, Tom Brady has a huge asterisk by his name.
Jerry rice used to put stickyms on his gloves
What about jerry Rice's superbowls? They dont count?
CJ he has wins but not the stats to be the greatest you have to have all categories which jerry rice has.
Lenny Leonard exactly rice has the best accolades and also he has playoff resume. Brady only has a great playoff resume he don’t have the accolades rice has.
Jerry rice is fr the goat but modern day ppl forget his greatness
7 rings. Most passing yards all time. Most Superbowl appearances. Most Superbowl MVPs. That's Tom Brady the goat
@@evergreatest8909 passing yards record changes every couple years and football is a team game and if you compare him to Jerry for dominance at their position it easily goes to Jerry he played into his 40’s at one of the hardest positions and holds damn near every receiving record, Jerry rive is the goat Brady is the greatest winner of all time tho just not the 🐐
@@nox1ck589 all time greatest ever. Jerry rice isn't even top 10
@@nox1ck589Well he's top ten all time but not top 5
@@nox1ck589 Tom Brady holds every QB record in playoffs history including touchdowns, yards, game winning drives, wins, comebacks, MVPs, and it's not even close. He leads every other QB by a large margin in every category no one will catch him. And he leads the entire NFL in rings lol
Did Skip just compare Michael Irvin to Jerry the GOAT Rice !
A travesty lol
Right😆😆😆he off his meds
Keith W he not the goat tho but ok
Hey Im Futa Jerry Rice is the Best WR EVER and he has a STRONG CASE For Best Football Player at any position!
U r correct that’s what he did
Didn't Shannon Sharpe declare Tom Brady the greatest football in the (then) 97 year history of the NFL after Super Bowl 51?
What changed his mind?
It's a debate show. He probably still truly believes that.
buzzy4u2 well he is. From the 6th round to 6 rings 🖐☝️
@@Trillmxtic Cheating rings!!
kc 3182x hahaha sound bitter mate. Are you a Jets fan ?
@buzzy4u2 go figure a Packers fan says that
"I don't think ANYBODY is going to touch his records" 💯
Brady has every post season QB record.
People throw "system" around. I don't think there was ever a bigger system player than Rice. The reason no one will likely beat his record is... when will we ever see a great WR inherit a dynasty in the making team with some of the greatest QBs in history paired with an all-time great offensive-minded coach who changed football forever with his style?
If a WR as good or better than Rice got drafted by the Chiefs and he played in the Mahomes/Reid system for 15 years there's no way he won't destroy Rice. WRs like Moss, Calvin, TO, AB, Julio, etc. are better than Rice. They just didn't inherit a GOAT offensive coach with a revolutionary system, a GOAT QB who will guide his career and a dynasty in the making. The 49ers were 14-2 Champions with Montana the Superbowl MVP the year before Rice.
Charlie Kelly Every record is almost always broken in a matter of time, better training, diet, etc expect it to be broken in a couple decades.
@@Inceptic1 Different rules contribute a ton too. Don't think Peyton Manning would've broken Dan Marino's passing TDs record 2 decades later, and Drew Brees his passing yds record almost 3 decades later, if not for the softer passing rules. The fact that nobody's broken some of Rice's full season single season records, much yet his career records, speaks volumes to how dominant both his peak and length of prime were.
@@Inceptic1 It's not just that... My point explicitly being WRs are too reliant on their QBs. Imo, Calvin Johnson, Randy Moss, TO, Julio Jones, AB, etc. are flat out better than Rice. But none joined teams as stacked as Rice did, none had QBs in their primes like Rice did (Except Moss for 1 year where he went 18-1 beating Rice's single-season TD record with Tom Brady), and none had the offensive system Rice.
QBs are far more in control of their destiny. WRs are far more reliant on QBs. No great WR may ever have the QBs Rice had handed to him for as long as rice did given free-agency and salary cap.
Skip "I was there" Bayless
Skip: "belichick played lacrosse at a division 3 school"
Me: at least he started 😂
LaCrosse is viscious...
StarFyreXXX look mommy I caught the ball with my sticky!
This is between Rice, Brady, LT, Jim Brown, Walter Payton, and Deion Sanders. Any of them could be the GOAT.
Amit Suresh yeah Walter is my goat and don’t forget Montana
6 SB 9 appearances, not close.
This is a solid comment and in my opinion all of these guys should be in a special wing together, in the HOF.
Barry is better than sweetness
Nate Peterman too
Every Iconic Jordan game
Skip: “I was there.”
Muhammad Ali vs Joe Frasier Rumble in the Jungle
Skip: “I was there.”
Jesse Owens 1936 Olympics
Skip: “I was there.”
Jesus born
Skip: "I was there"
The fact Skip somewhat agreed with Shannon about LT shows how great he was
Jerry Rice is the GOAT his numbers are out of this world
TB12 playoff numbers are out of this universe
Dylan Robbins so are Jerry’s 😂😂😂
So are Brady's numbers. The order is highly debatable but they are both in the conversation for #1.
Shawn Sanders Not really, Brady doesn’t even lead in career yards or TDs😂.
@@Djk-he2ep he is top 2 in regular season stats but his playoff stats mean more. Top 2 in the major regular season stats(never played more than 2 games a year in a dome is why), #1 in playoff stats, 3 league MVP'S, 5 ALL Pro's, 4 Superbowl MVP'S and 6 rings puts you in the conversation for G.O.A.T as football PLAYER. Debatable on the order between Brady, Rice, LT, Brown and Prime but he is top 5 no question.
Jerry Rice.
Admitted to being a cheater
binarystar300 and what are gloves ?
Lol!!!
For Jerry Rice to affect the game from a such a dependent position just shows his greatest. A Super Bowl mvp as a WR is crazyyyyyyy
What about Prime? Prime might be the most electrifying player ever to play.
The problem with Prime is he wasn't dedicated, he was a part time football player because he played baseball as well and playing with the Braves at that time, they were always playing in the postseason, which was between week 4 and 6 in NFL around that time. Prime is a legend but he wasn't fully dedicated to football.
Prime calls Tom Brady the GOAT
shawn Taylor
@@brianjones3615 absolutely not lol
@@rodneymercado7195 And even with that Prime was possibly the only man walking on earth that could cover Jerry Rice
Shannon said after the comeback he was the greatest player in NFL history lol what a fraud
Lord Shaxx it’s television bruh. His shtick became to hate Brady for the show just like skips is to hate lebron because it brings in better ratings. Their job isn’t to be honest it’s to meet rating demands. He not a fraud, just doing his job
I see Shannon's argument but I would have had one other name Deion Sanders. No other player was able to impact a game at the highest capabilities then Deion Sanders. And I think he deserves to be thrusted upon this conversation... as a Defender, as a wideout, and as a return specialist! All three phases of the game! But I have no problem with any of the four Tom Brady Lawrence Taylor Jerry Rice or Deion Sanders being considered the greatest players of all time!
Huge cowboys fan. Skip, don’t put Jerry rice and Michael Irvin in the same sentence. Michael is a top 20 wr all time not the goat.
Does anyone else have the sneaky suspicion that Skip would be saying Jerry is the GOAT if he played for the Cowboys...?
truth
Clearly
Lawrence Taylor The G.O.A.T.! #56! Don't Forget Joe Montana Perfect in SB!
Amen! 1000% accurate. Also Montana didnt have refs protecting him and didnt have to have an asterisk on his clean perfect SB runs!
So only getting to 4SB is better than 9?!? Please 🙄
How is going to 9 SB less than 4. Montana only went to 4, because they were not good enough to get to the Superbowls. How is winning 6 less than 4?
@@v1nkool08 its pathetic that you'd even have to explain this to an adult. Dont even bother with these simpletons.
@Tony Zheng the 49ers got robbed of a few suberbowl chances and montana had to deal with alot of injuries through his career large parts of seasons. . injuries that might i add probably wouldnt have happend in todays softer league. . in todays league its much easier to stand in for more and more season. . its sooo much easier to rack up yards today than its ever been in the league specially for recievers. . jerry rices numbers woulda been out of control in todays league. . even more than they already were
“Tom Brady is the greatest player in the 97 year history of the NFL...there’s no debate” - Shannon sharpe 3 years ago
No way he said that
@@JonathanSilva-mg9eo He did shortly after the 28-3 comeback game and he played in two more super bowls since then and won one.
MrSoxfan87 yea but he has to have something to debate skip with considering they always talk about Brady
@@JonathanSilva-mg9eo he did tho.... the Monday after the ATL superbowl.
Yeah they always talk about Brady or Lebron both these dudes are out there and all over the place and when rob parker comes on the show I don’t even bother to listen they guy smiles as he pours out the hate for Brady
The QB position is a dependent position 😂😂😂 ooh Skip
every position is a dependent position hahaha wide receivers tight ends runningbacks need the qb to throw them the ball under pressure all the time. not every qb can do what tom brady has done especially with his 4 quarter drives and comebacks that'll live in the history books forever. last time i checked the o line or defense doesn't move the ball forward. great offense will always be great defense
Tom Kowalski Tom statistics isn’t the best all he has is the wins.
@@keshon79 He holds Super Bowl records for passing yards (2,576), passing touchdowns (18), completions (256), and attempts (392).
He holds the record for the most overall touchdown passes (590).
He has the most all-time postseason victories for a starting QB with 30.
He has the most all-time postseason passing yards with 11,170.
He has the most all-time postseason completions with 1,005.
He has the most all-time postseason touchdown passes with 73.
Including the playoffs, Brady holds the all-time record for total yards with 82,897.
say what you want, the dude's a killer. ya'll just sit at home and find reasons to hate on someone you could never be
Tom Kowalski what season other than 2007 was historic from Tom , Jerry rice has plenty of historic season.
It's yah boyKe 2011, threw for 5k, and his 2016 season 28-2 is the highest td to int ratio of all time
Skip you are wrong. As a dependent position with two other options that play your same position for him to catch and run for 22000 yards is unbelievable. That means you have to get open enough times to be the option that the quarterback throws the ball to that many times other than two other receivers, a tight end and even a running back out the back field! He was unguardable! And he deserves consideration to be the greatest football player of all time. Not definitive but Jerry Rice deserves consideration!
JERRY RICE is the 🐐 YESTERDAY, TODAY, and TOMORROW and FORVER!!!!!!! GOAT POINT BLANK and I like Tom
You cant compare 2 completely different positions. Lol sound stupid
No way.
J 2020 you’re dumb asf if you think that Brady has way more achievements
Guys, Skip says “Taylor destroyed the whole offense” the end of conversation
ughh he used drugs to aid his game , but we forget about that
I’m surprised I didn’t hear about when “the chosen one became the frozen one” 😂
Why do Tom Brady need to have a HOF wide receiver when the whole NFL riggs up games for him?
Nice job the refs complete all his passes and read defenses
Its Jerry 🐐 Rice
Shannon is exactly right, ol' Billy Goat has had the most disciplined, toughest, consistent, all time great defenses for the past 20 years. Doing it all with no name anonymous players that he made look like HoFers, until they leave. But Skip don't want to hear that part, skipping facts.
Jerry Rice is the only undisputed GOAT at his position.
Jerry also cheated for 20 years.he admitted to using stick’um.
@@davidkanke6757 Then tried denying it.
Deion
What are you talking about?? TB is the undisputed GOAT at his position by 100 miles.
Tom Smith a debate can clearly be had for Joe Montana. There is no debate at WR.
Imagine Tom Brady and Jerry Rice on the same team though lol .
Its Brady . It's the most important position in the NFL by far. You can say Brady cheated which was never proven. But jerry admitted to using stickum
THANK YOU!!!! Finally someone who has some sense
Tahj Gonzalez nah
You acting like a lot of players back then didn’t use stickum
But his cheating was proven and they changed 2 NFL rules for him
@@falconsfan28-38 No u and this guy don't have any sense just biased brady fans
Jerry Rice GOAT
Give me Tom Brady in his prime over anyone period.
Nah give me Patrick Mahomes right now over Brady in prime period.
Ryan Johnson Patrick Mahomes is a beast could be the next goat you never know he still has a lot of playing to do.
if you gave me two identical teams. . clones if you will. . id take peyton manning over tom brady 90 percent of the time
nick waraksa yeah regular season Peyton but I’d take playoff Brady
nick waraksa yeah regular season Peyton but I’d take playoff Brady
Tom Brady is the all time leader is Wins, TD's, Yards. He lead his team to 9 SB's, winning 6. 13 AFC Championship games, winning 9. Tom Brady is without Question the GOAT. Shannon is a bitter jealous hater
Brady could NEVER take the hits Montana took
@@NERVE-DAMAGE like I mean the man is old as dust. But he gets the ball out of his hands quickly with the throw away.
and a racist
@@NERVE-DAMAGE montana
couldn't take them hits either he was the most brittle qb of the 80s
brady took big hits in the early 2000s
Drew Brees has the all time yards and TD record not Brady
look at the eras Jerry played in and Tom Brady plays in
To be fair Brady played in a similar era his first 3 rings. The era changed after tuck rule
@@Ah-ws9nm a rule caused by Tom yeah? The league has been a throwing league for the last 5-6 years and still nobody is going to catch Jerry.
@@joshholmes1372 both of you are wrong but Brady did win 3 rings before the major QB rule changes.
@@joshholmes1372 5 or 6 years???more like 15 and prgressing further and further
@@joshholmes1372 i honestly dont think anyone will catch jerry. . .or of the few active leaders left none of them are even in the ball park
I love this. Skip been picking at Shannon for awhile about the last dance now its reversed and skip can’t stand it 😂😂
Shannon was talking about individual skill while Skip was talking about accolades
Remember everybody in skips mind T.O doesnt deserve to be in the hall of fame because of his off field problems but Michael irving is the best reciever ever lmao
I agree with skip that Brady is the goat but cmon, Jerry Rice was miles better than Micheal Irvin
Take rings away is Brady still the goat
Brandon Hogan no way, but no one can be the goat at something without championships to back it up
Brandon Hogan No he wouldn’t be. He would be a failure at best. 20 years in the league and no rings? Doesn’t sound like GOAT material to me.
Brandon Hogan why would you take away rings tho lmao that’s like if I said “take away jerrys receiving touchdowns, is he still the greatest wr?”
What annoys me about these debates is Shannon comes with stats and facts while Skip just tells stories of Michael Irvin and Bill Belichick and says “I was there” 🤣🤣
That “23, great number” was so sly and funny lol
Belicheck without Brady in 00, 01, 08, and 16 was 19-19. Brady with those same rosters in 01, 07, and 16 went 46-5. End of story. Brady was the dynasty
Belichick won the afc championship in 2001 without brady
@@Yeomannn yeah bro cause drew bledsoe went down 2 games in 01 at 0-2 and brady went 15-3 lmaoo
@@Yeomannn and both those 2 losses drew had to start the season were against teams who finished under .500
Meaningless stat..back up quarterback..not top 30 quarterback in league obviously they suck
Skip: *sigh* the lengths you will go to, to discredit Tom Brady!
Uhm, I’m sorry Skip but LeBron James much?
@do dirty Yup, in chips he is.
@do dirty Better than Jordan too. 7-0 babyyy
Don't ever compare Tom Brady to Lebron James guy. One's a winner and the other is not.
@@Biggbosshog Go to bed Skip
SinisterMud you need some sleep if you think they are the same kid.
Lol is this the same day? I remember them having this discussion and same topic before 😂😂
Michael Irvin can't be in the same room with Jerry Rice
Let's be real Tom Brady played in the weak afc and Jerry Rice played in the competitive nfc
Come on bro brady was taken out for a year with a hit to his leg. He's paid his dues.
I'll take J Rice over Brady given how noone could stop a QB from getting his chances. Rice created outstanding plays out if anything.
I’m definitely not a fan of Drew Brees but this guy has records that Tom Brady isn’t going to break, and he is still playing, and prob has another year or two to play. Drew Brees has the most passing yards all time, most touchdowns, has 5 seasons of throwing for over 5,000 yards, and has led the league in passing 7 times. He’s only considered the GOAT because of his rings where his defense and the rest of his team played big roles as well.
All-time NFL team:
K- Adam Vinateri
KR- Devin Hester
P- Shane Lechler
PR- Dante Hall
QB- Patrick Mahomes
RB- LaDanian Tomlinson
WR- Randy Moss
WR- Calvin Johnson
TE- Rob Gronkowski
LT- Orlando Pace
LG- Will Shields
C- Bruce Matthews
RG- Larry Allen
RT- Jonathan Ogden
RDE- Reggie White
DT- Aaron Donald
NT- Warren Sapp
LDE- JJ Watt
OLB- Lawrence Taylor
MLB- Ray Lewis
OLB- Von Miller
LCB- Deion Sanders
FS- Ed Reed
SS- Troy Polamalu
RCB- Champ Bailey
When skip said Michael Irvin I died laughing this was the funniest thing I’ve ever heard
The playmaker was great. He just played in run heavy offenses and Aikman was inaccurate
Jonathan Dee The One And Only ok ask Deion sanders what he think about lining across from 88
Mike Irvin was great but he ain’t no Jerry Rice lol
LAMO 🤣 also when skip said it to i'm Jerry Rice all day on this one regardless of no MVP and stuff
Shannon is FRAUD!!!
I WISH I COULD SHOW HIM THE CLIP OF HIM SAYIN,,
"TOM BRADY IS THE GREATEST PLAYER IN THE 97 YEAR HISTORY OF THE NFL,, THERE'S NO DEBATING THIS"
Jay Thompson how winning another super bowl changed ?
Jay Thompson his opinion didn’t change its the way they run the show now. It’s fake. They don’t actually hate these players they just do it for entertainment like Skip doesn’t wake up everyday burning a picture of lebron and shannon doesn’t wake up and pray tom brady trips on his shoe lace. It’s just tv and people eat it up
I saw Jerry Rice play in his prime. He was that good. Defenses would scheme ways to stop him and they just couldn't.
He is still the Greatest WR in NFL history, and we currently play in a pass happy league. Which was not the case in his generation. The game was also more physical. Defenses weren't handicap. Yeah Brady is probably the GOAT, but Brady wouldn't play 23 years back in the eighties and nineties. Rice made it 20 years in the league, in the Black and Blue Era! He still holds every major WR records in Totals, and may have more Records then anybody period!
That “I ain’t goin no where” took me out 😂
Rodgers: Most Talented
Brady: Best Winner
Manning: Best Football Mind
It could also be Barry Sanders, Jim Brown, Primetime, Jerry Rice, Montana, it’s very close
Brady got the better mind than Manning, cuz he can stay cool in the clutch. When the pressure is the most he is at his best most of his career. Manning failed so many times in the playoffs. Regular Season he was a beast but he only made 1 super bowl and his second was given to him while he was trying to do everything in his power to loose the game... Brady is the goat. sorry. stop it. You can hate him but you have to admit he is the goat
I know we wanna push Rogers to the side and replace him I’m with Mahomos, but Rogers is slightly more talented and efficient than Mahomes.
Brett Farve was more talented. Mahomes style is like Farve.
Falo Brett is the greatest gunslinger but not the most talented, Favre could be undisplonced at times, Rodgers is a better and more talented QB
@@browmaster2197 Everybody has a bad day, besides Brett has more Superbowl appearances than Roger and has better stats.
Shannon: "They blew Denver out the water. Wait! Wait! Wait! That was before I got there." That look on his face. Lol
😂😂😂
Michael couldn't carry Jerry's jock strap in a suit case
2:18 that’s when you knew it was getting serious Skip was heated 😂
Remember what Shannon said after the superbowl comeback y'all lol. He's a joke.
He probably looked at Rice’s stats and selections again or watched some of his old tapes. That’ll make someone retract any opposing statements real quick.
he a goat not a joke
He got caught up in the moment it happens 🤷♂️
@@alexm4610 except he said he would admit him G.O.A.T football player BEFORE Superbowl 51 if Brady was MVP. Brady smashed that out of the park.
Shannon said something similar after Brady came back 3 times vs Mahomes in the AFC championship game to win and go to his 9th Superbowl and 4th in 5 years.
when youre caught and penalized for cheating automatically disqualified for me
Cause u a loser
@Drill Run tell that to the millionaires n billionaires that lie cheat and steal to be where they are
Yeah, Jerry using stick em his whole career should disqualify him.
He didn’t cheat Belichick did
So they are both disqualified and so is montana. Jerry ADMITTED to using stickum and there has been literally 0 pieces of evidence to show tom cheated. The whole deflate thing was so dumb given that the colts balls were also deflated AND there was literally no REAL evidence that he cheated and even if he did let’s say. Which is worse, using stickum giving you a SUPER unfair disadvantage or having a Slightly under inflated football
I don’t know why Deion Sanders isn’t in this conversation. When one player can shut down one whole side of the field, that’s a GOAT. Don’t get me wrong, rings count, but so does production (or the absence of production). Give Deion some love.
That's a valid point, innit.
Jerry rice had 2 hof qbs back to back y is this never ever mentioned
Skip mentioned it
Jerry GOAT Rice made both of them legendary
Tom Brady didn’t use homing gloves that made him throw more accurately like Jerry used sticky hands
He did deflate balls though. And spy
Baldheadslck That’s Bill and even if he did it was one game not every single game. People say other WRs made better catches WITHOUT sticky hands after it got banned.
@@rainman105 and plenty of other QBs have made better throws lol so what's your point? No one in their right mind would say Brad's had even a top 5 arm all time. So it's kinda weird you talking about Jerry rice and his talent when Tom is not the best or even close when it comes to arm. He should be Thanking Adam viniateri for the rest of his life Bec he could have easily have been Jim Kelly if he wasn't so clutch in the first couple years
Baldheadslck Arm aint all about throwing look at his accuracy and the kicker did his job yeah set up by the QB and Brady aint had Adam for half his career Brady 9/10 goes and does his thing when he got to and clutch out including the 28-3 comeback in the Super Bowl lol if that aint top 5 QB then IDK what is you just sound like a hater. Brady known for doing his thing w all the no names.
@@rainman105 are you serious? Lmao. You think of the tuck rule game doesn't have that happen, Adam make 2 all time great kicks in that game and then the game winning kick on the Superbowl his career is the same? Lmao ok
There is no argument, Tom Brady was the greatest player
And I spent the first 8-9 years of this career hating him
@Quloc What does that matter? Take your room temp IQ and watch the video.
Shannon got him with the mj/Belichick comparisons so hard that he had to swerve off topic and talk about Bill playing Lacrosse😂
The nfl should make a best QB award that is separated from the mvp. I’m tired of the QB getting the award every year even when some are undeserving some years.
@@seandupree8871 That was the 2014-2015 season.
Deion Sanders should be in the G.O.A.T conversation
I don't think so, Deion did a lot yes and probably the best in his position but the cornerback is such a replaceable position that having a great and greatest on that position doesn't make much difference
@John Peaches what I mean is that Cornerbacks are not make or break the game like QBs or WRs. Same case for o-line
Playing a dependent position and still being able to put up those career numbers that seems impossible for anybody to touch speaks volumes to me. Also, during his time the NFL was run heavy.
I mean... I agree but he did spend most of his career catching passes from 2 hall of famers.
2:10 I scream laughed at the "You know who."
Brady and every way. Just consider games like the 28-3 comeback against Atlanta in the Superbowl. Oh and you could just count the rings too..
In everything you named he needed more than 21 other players to do it. Talk about his skills.
World Tree202 but the qb position is the most valuable position the falcons choked and brady was impeccably great in that comeback stop hating so did jerry rice throw and catch the ball himself? It’s like everyone just forgot the qb position is the hardest position in sports
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He needed 21 players to accomplish those feats. What skill does he have by himself vs the best QBs. Compared to Rice vs WRs.
World Tree202 you make no damn sense even if you look at it like that rice is more dependent on the quarterback than anything the qb is the most valuable and hardest position to play brady has 6 rings 9 appearances has the stats too compared to any other qb compare to him it’s not even close in qb discussion rice is great but he’s not at Brady’s legacy level brady is the goat you’re senile if you say otherwise when you value a player you gotta take into account everything especially position and qb will be above every other position that’s why they get paid the big $ brady has better achievements compared to anyone you want to compare him to Shannon 3 years ago called him the goat now he’s changing his mind even after winning another ring after he said that y’all biased fr makes no sense
World Tree202 to be the goat of receivers is obviously rice he has the stats and rings but if you wanna say best receiver would be moss to me & most gifted receiver would be megatron
Jerry Rice is the Original GOAT before Tom Brady even got into the league
LT💯✊🏿
yumm yumm The best ever - Lawrence
Ain't no such thing for GOAT in the NFL for me.
Brady
Rice
LT
Deion
Those are my Mount Rushmore.
That suit skip wearing is fire 🔥 need one of those for my closet
Call me when LeBron has 6 championships!
That's your only argument?
THAT'S THE ONLY ARGUMENT I NEED SHAWN!!!!!!
Well Bill got 11 thats all i need
Yogi Berra has 10 and most people wouldn't consider him the greatest catcher ever.
"Tom Brady is the GREATEST FOOTBALL PLAYER in the 97 year history of the NFL, there is nothing else to debate".
- Shannon Sharpe
This was said after superbowl 51, since then Brady has won another superbowl, another MVP and currently sits at 2nd in all time passing yards and passing TDs.... all at 40+ years of age. I have no respect for this propaganda and the dishonesty of the media
LT was the greatest to ever play the game and that's that
Ive always wondered where Calvin Johnson would be had he had a Brees, Brady, Peyton Manning, or Aaron Rodgers throwing to him for 15-17 years.
It wouldn’t have been pretty what he would’ve done to the record books
Tom Brady!!!
Jerry Rice was an incredible reciever and given his production and SB rings is undoubtedly the greatest WR of all time.
However, Tom has 6 rings playing the position that has more effect on whether a team wins or loses than any other. The story of the NFL so far this century has been that of Tom Brady and the New England Patriots. A 20-year run of unprecedented domination. No team has ever done what the Patriots have done and no player on that team was more important than Tom Brady.
Joe Montana never lost a super bowl nor even threw an interception in a super bowl
Brady has made it to the superbowl 9 times in 20 years. On average, every 2 years hes made a superbowl appearence. Let that sink in. He's won 66% of all the superbowls hes played in. He is by far the GOAT.
how can people people even argue about Tom Brady not being the goat anymore
Tom Brady was part of a SYSTEM. Jerry Rice changed the game.
Tom Brady was the system. Belichick would have been fired in 2001 if Bledsoe wouldn't have gotten injured. Rice had Montana and Young throwing to him for most of his career
@@tsmith77772 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Wsm Wsm If you think that you don't understand the game. Brady's ability to scan the field, recognize and exploit mismatches and convert average receivers into household names is second to none. His poise in the clutch, his emotional leaderhship, work ethic, discipline...never a QB like him. Rodgers is way overrated because he has athletic talent. Montana had waaaay more talent around him than Brady had. Elway, Marino or Brees would not have been this consistent over a 20 year period. Its no coincidence that the Pats sucked in 2001 until he took over, then the dynasty began. It won't be a coincidence when the Pats no longer have nearly the success they had with Brady.
Robert Porter what game Jerry changed? Defenses changed when Moss came into the game... Give Moss those QB’s Jerry had and see how many records he would have... we talking about stick em using Jerry? Smh 🤦♂️ isn’t that part of cheating or he gets away with that? Just asking..
@@onemanagainsttheworld1630 is Tom Brady a better Football player than Jerry Rice?
Football is such a team sport and with the different positions requiring totally different methods of attack in my opinion it's impossible to name a overall GOAT in football
These conversations are pointless and cyclical but highly entertaining
SIMPLE:
GOAT WR: Rice
GOAT QB: Brady