Somebody BROKE The Gripper Arm Off This AMI Rowe Tropicana Jukebox! Why Would You Do That?
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These old machines are pretty fascinating in the mechanical designs.
Yeah very interesting stuff! Thank you for watching GreenAppelPie!
During the time I was repairing consumer electronics there was a company that specialized in idler wheels. If they didn't have right one in stock they were able to rebuild your old one.
We get ours from www.JukeboxNeedles.com he's got all the jukebox ones pretty much.
Projector recorder belt company, think in Dallas now.
lol. I'd not even have noticed that display issue. Now you've told me, I can't unsee ;). I mean, making me remember what song is on what side, scandal. hehe.
Thanks for another fun video guys! :)
Thank you Goddesses StarTrek Online Fleet!
Chantilly lace? Oh Baby! You know what I like! lol I've been trying to play all the songs you showed listed the last video on youtube music and its been amazing. Try it. I feel like I'm in the 50's
Thanks for the last two videos pinballs though great it's good to have some variety
We try to go back and forth usually, lately we've just had a ton of pinball stuff in.
That jukebox is so assertive when it slaps down that disc, it's letting you know it's alive without even hearing the record!
Yup, it's showing you how it's done, no candy footing around :)
Idler wheel turntables, in good condition, are quite well regarded for low noise as well. Arguably better than direct drive.
The thing that tends to kill them is the rubbers going hard and deteriorating. The flat spot can cause a knock noise every time it hits the spot too. Personally, I really like idler wheel turntables.
It is great to see a Jukebox video again. It has been a while
I can't ever completely get the motor rumble out of them, i'm going to experiment on the next one and see the best way to isolate it. I'm sure it's probably motor mount grommets but i'll do some a/b testing and figure it out :) Thanks for watching Brendan!
@@LyonsArcade Most likely the rubbers/grommets. Once the rubber starts going a little hard, the noise transfers through a lot more. Even the idler wheel, if it is hard, will transfer noise. A lot of turntables, liek Garrard and Dual (I have a couple of these) are very collectable and they are idler style turntables.
As a note, also check the bearings on the motor itself. Jukeboxes often get hammered and the bearings can become a bit sloppy. :)
Great video. I will likely never buy an old juke box but it sure is fun watching you repair yours.
I might convince you to buy one eventually :) Thanks for watching Kent!
Nice video - thank you.
About 7" vinyl records: these DID exist on 33 RPM (I still must have one somewhere) , but most were 45 RPM. I've never known the AMI could play 33 RPM records...
ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT! Love watching these videos ☻
Thank you Laurence!
You're very welcome 😁
As to the bow hitting that grove before fixing the belt....my brother Geoff called it...I ( fortunately ?) have only one brother.
The bronze bushing on idler wheel should not be loose. Spring keeper on underside of wheel should be pushed up to hold bushing tight against wheel. That will also get rid of wobble.
Thank you Greg, I did just that after I filmed the video, that little clip straightened it up.... thank you for the advice, I can tell you've been around a jukebox or two :)
Lol, about 35 years
Great video - love the humor!
Gripper: Who’s Your Daddy?
*slaps record down*
Record: You’re My Daddy!
😆
Great video, just did a quick search in the ol ebay and found a few manuals for this box and one cd that has 4 or 5 different manuals for $10 . If your interested, also some misc parts so you might give em a look.
Keep it up Ronnie.
Really slaps the record down from the basket.
I used your Amazon link to buy a perfect egg maker a few months ago. Thanks for getting me hooked on saying come on people 🤣 Great work on your videos
Thank you man
I couldn't help but think of this (not an authentic or restoration idea): to fix the 'now playing' indicator, you could cover all three digits with a very tinted piece of plastic, put three bright lights in corresponding places over the digits, and add light baffles to prevent light from leaking from the 'j' to the 'k'. Attach the letter column lights to the the "shutter" solenoid connections, and you'd have a kinda trick little display no one's ever seen before. (unless that's been done before)
That's actually a very good idea, that would work. You might need a certain voltage bulb or a resistor on it but it would work just fine.....
Is there a ring of some "protective textile" on the turntable? Other wise it may scrath the record. By the way i reckommend you to put a new ideale Wheel. It's almost impossible to repair the old one. The dents are too deep. Elvis Presley will turn in his grawe🙄 If you play
his records😁. Regards Stig Österberg from Dalsbruk in Finland
I believe we can repair it just fine :) Thanks for watching Stig!!!!
Thanks for sharing! Love old jukeboxes! So cool how they work!
I love repairing stuff but I really do hate some of those 'first power ons' or 'smoke tests'. I suppose there's a fair bit of chaos possible with the record gripper arm if it goes wrong. Makes me wonder if people have blog photo posts of 'juke box crashes' or something like that.
I like the shop vac prop rod holding the door open! Thats what id do too.
Joe was right you just needed some oal. Now is it Tube time Ron?
No it's Amp time, Tube time will be Monday....
Efin love you guys! Been turning a lot of mechanical geeks onto your vids. PLEASE keep on kickin ass! Wish YT would allow pic uploads. I could upload me wearing your shirt all over the place. Keep on rockin my friends!!
Like the videos. Look at the side view of the idler wheel. It has a large wobble in it. Enough to cause problems? I don't know.
Thanks so much for sharing. 😉👌🏻
As to J K side indicator. Replace solenoids with relay. Two indicator bulbs. A side B side. Relay turns on A or B light
That is one authoritative bonk when it places the record down.
Yeah but it's always dead on center, it's pretty cool. SLAP!!!!
Looks like you won one for the gripper.
Kate, i'm going to have to admonish you again for that bad joke. Kate. You've been admonished!
@@LyonsArcade I want to speak to your manager!!!!
@@LyonsArcade There ain't no good in an evil hearted woman..and I ain't cut to be no Jesse James 😁 🎸🎶🎶🎶
Cool video, Did you guys use 3 in 1 oil? Did the top fall on you or Joe? Glad to see nothing bad happened? Thanks for filming.
Yes we usually use 3 in 1.... I don't think it really needed it on those gears though, but it definitely needed it on the turntable stuff. It slapped Joe a little bit he was alright :)
Nothing against the Juke Box or Pinball videos (I watch and enjoy most of them!) but do you have any arcade games coming up? I think it's been a few months since we've had any of those. Thanks!
I wonder if this is how an MP3 player works. 😀That basket always reminds me of a fan.
Use a cloth sanding pad.. i don't know what they call it... it does not have a paper back but it's a clothy back that you can wrap around round objects you might get away with it... or order a new one.... but that's my opinion... it's the main thing of the device :-)
That thing is like a Rube Goldberg puzzle .. You havent hit the golf ball into the cup yet..
We’re getting there
Great video, Please do a video on a ROWE R86 gripper assembly. I have the service manual but it dose not cover that part. I can't get the thing in sync. any help would appreciated! Thanks
Dumb question: How the hell does the record not fall out the bottom as the basket rotates. Is there something gripping the record while in the basket? Edit: oh! The belt/band that goes around the basket serves double duty to rotate the basket and keep the records held in from falling out. So cool! The engineering that went into these old mechanical machines is just amazing to me, how they thought of the system of gears and pins, and motors that could pull a record out and place it on the correct side and put it back again. Just wow.
there is at least this belt that turns the carousel
Ronnie's back with another 4am video here people cmon now 😴 😁
Let's Get Ready To Rumble!
I heard you can get rid of bumps in rubber by soaking it in hot water. I have never tried it, so I don't know if it works.
I’m still waiting for you to use some Carolina vernacular by saying, “It’s all dorked up.” Or “that’s dorked up.”
I've never heard anybody from the Carolinas say that, that's why I haven't said it :)
@@LyonsArcade lol, maybe my Charlotte friend, really isn't from Charlotte after all. Keep it up.
Only family could laugh when another family member 'bout dies! LOL
There's an old volkswagen repair book written by a hippie back in the day and he says when you lift up the hood, put a stick under it to make sure it doesn't drop and "bang you a good one"
It's less broke now people... come on now...
Is the turn table spinning the right way? I haven't seen one that turns into the needle before only the trailing and liner tracking type...looking forward to hearing it play..
Now you've seen it :)
@@LyonsArcade Nice..50 years young and still learn a little every day...Cheers Guy's from UK
I think it's gonna play the song backwards!
With the wires to power the coils right there it should have hit you. If you can't get a replacement for the pointer and coil assembly you can use a pair of light bulbs or LEDs (depending on preference) to indicate which record letter is selected. Not as nice the original arrow, but functional.
Yeah I wasn’t smart enough to think of that, it should have hit me
The clip on the idle should be tight up to it
I need major help on my rockola 456 it is like out of time on the gripper arm it will open and put the record back then the record magazine will start spinning then the gripper arm will close again and start hitting all the records spinning in the magazine
It shouldn't be able to do that, there is a piece on the cam that hits the switches, that keeps the gripper arm from moving after the basket is moving. It will only move one or the other... so you may have to adjust that cam and look at those switches. Look @ the first adjustment of this document:
arcarc.xmission.com/PDF_Jukebox/Rockola/Rockola_490_Mechanism_and_Amp_Adjust_Service_Manual.pdf
@@LyonsArcade well you think something broke in the gripper arm because the motor doesn't go it just pops back closed
its spining the wrong way! lol
Tell Me You've never played a record, without telling me you've never played a record :)
got out of aline when moving it, happens all the time
It appears that way... i'll know to look next time :)
You are over doing it , come on now Ronald!
Come on now you can't over do it, come on people
Oil your shaft every 6 months people 🚀😁
Do any of you clever people out there know how to reset the gripper arm etc on a 69 AMI Cadette CMM3? There are four cam switches and I can't
get it just right! Also how to load the magazine? I can't find a service switch anywhere!
I just want to spray Servisol Super 10 in there and re-grease all the gears.
Don't break Joe!
Who would break the gripper arm? Someone that has had very bad luck.... You sometimes have that :)
Damn, Joe's chatty today.
31:50 what da hell? 😄
We had the top propped open and it fell on Joe's head lol
@@LyonsArcade Oh shit..I hope it wasn't too badly damaged..the top that is 😆
It needs oil People ! ! Come on !
Yodelayheehoo
Very fascinating to be learning from you how these old jukeboxes work without having any electronics just like an EM pinball machine. Makes you wonder if ppl were smarter back in the day even though mechanical logic translates into electronic logic fairly easily if you understand what's going on. I watch all of your videos because ya never know what's coming up next!
Thank you Ray.... I don't think people were necessarily smarter back then, it's just the logic made more sense, pretty much the same exact things are going on inside the IC's we use now, just exponentially more actions happening exponentially faster.... So in one way people don't necessarily understand the modern logic as well, but it's much more complex too.
It needed oil!! 🛢