Fate Lore - The Tale of Siegfried [FGO & Apocrypha]
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Honestly... what are the odds of a leaf actually sticking to your back in a perfectly symmetrical orientation? That's why fantasy is cool.
1: You are going do to Sieg, correct?
2: I think there's enough content for Sigurd.
3: Why not reprise Gilgamesh's Video, you reprised Artoria 3 times + the Gilgamesh's video is too short & says too little considering he is the strongest Heroic Spirit
Benjamin Arredondo I wasn't planning on Sieg but Sigurd is a completely different guy so he will. The Gilga video does deserve a reprise but that'll prolly come after Babylonia.
OtakuDaiKun
1: Why not Sieg. In FGO, he’s a separate servant
2: Caster & Archer Gil in one video?
garrented of course life is completely absolute so of course it is life will always hand people everything they need
@OtakuDaiKun I need your opinion should I draw Altera’s sword would it be the Fate Sword Of mars or a historical accurately version which was in real history a short sword
Siegfried's back story always baffles me put also shows the selfishness of humanity. I'm baffled cause not one person he came across asked him to search for his own peace.
Guda(k)o : Dude, you dont have to apologize for everything.
Siegfried : Just because you are correct doesn't mean you are right, i'm sorry to say
Why is the character from fgo called gudao/ko?
KhaanMan66 His real name is Ritsuka Fujimaru. But in a joke manga, Okita and Nobu nicknamed Gudao the male version and Gudako the female version
KhaanMan66
It's a short for "Grand Order" since they don't have official name back then
In Japanese it's pronounce as "Guranda Oodaa" so it become "Gudao" ("Gudako" for feminine-like name)
*I ascend Siegfried fully*
*Siegfried Lore Posted*
“I have the power of a DEITY”
My first servant in F/GO and got me through the first four singularities. Offense isn't the best, but he held in there as a pretty good tank. Was actually pretty useful since there were so many dragon trait enemies like wyverns. Regardless of what anyone says he will still hold my respect as a hero f justice.
Ya, that was a tactic I used a bit early on.
But you can't ignore the fact that he's good at farming now thanks to his recent buff.
5:38 In hindsight, I find it incredibly hilarious that Sieg gains Fran's Noble Phantasm, "Blasted Tree".
Its basically saying: "That blasted tree! If it weren't for this one single leaf, I could have been completely indestructible!!"
Lackus Shock Very clever.
Big brain
Missed opportunity in Lostbelt for not having Seigfreid vs Sigurd seriously DW that could have been an awesome fight sigh
An uphill battle for Siegfried but not an impossible one. It would be interesting to compare and contrast them as hero’s and as people as a lead up to the fight
@@robrockstar9648 actually both have different abilities but both are also just as strong so it's like 50 50
Su--
Sum--
*Sumanai*
@@rininya1744 why is he called sumanai
@@rininya1744 i still dont get it im still preety new to the fandom
@@rininya1744 HAHAHAHA my friend you uave underestemaited math
Not a joke anymore when even other characters called upon Sumanai-San.
What about Sumatera?
Actually one of the story SR that I really wanted at the beginning.
He's Siegfried, not sumanai.
JoJo Rau Sumanai?He is Sumanai
Sumanai not Sumanai..... I still love Sumanai
Siegfried was the first servant outside of Fate/Zero and Stay Night that I came across. And I hold a spot for him on my favorites, so thank you for finally uploading a video on him! Now please do one for Henry Jekyll and for Florence Nightingale
"My ideal is fake. He's right. I can't become a hero of justice. As long as i
admire such a thing, I will end up like the man before me.
But I felt beauty in it. I know it's just hypocrisy to value someone
else over yourself.
But still
I admired it, thinking of how great it would be if I could live that
way. That's the one thing driving my body.
There are people that can't save others, then there was me who could not
save them. I swore to myself to never let such a thing happen again,
seeing the memories that meaninglessly disappeared.
How long has it been since then? There are things I lost, there are
things I dropped. There will always be things that will be forgotten. So
I swore to myself to never forget this one fact.
-To become a hero of justice
I will protect it, even if it isn't my own wish, even if it is just
sophistry to soften my guilt. It has to come true. The person who saved
me died, leaving those words behind. I believe the wish contained in
those words. Even if the world disagrees with me, even if I, myself
curse me,
That's the only thing in my head. Even if Emiya Shirou is a fake, this
is absolutely true. For everyone to be happy... that is an ideal
everyone thinks of. So I won't back down, because this dream is......
It isn't a mistake!" - Shirou
Damn this fit so perfectly well on this video..... Or maybe just because siegfried va is the same as emiya?
In a way, Sieg fulfilled Siegfried's dream. Sieg similarly to Siegfried didn't have anything at first. No ideals, no wishes, nothing to fight for. He found his wish though, to save as many people as he can. To be what the hero who gave up his life to save him dreamed of being. A hero of justice.
Stop
White hair ,
Have tan skin ,
Helps people a lot ,
No any care about himself ,
Have soft spot for homunculus child ,
Said homunculus child is not bloood related relative .
@@shadowclaw7210 He succeeded in just a few months what Shirou attempted for years.
@@nighthawk72j80 Lol so true 😂, I felt bad for Shirou after reading this.
I would love to see a route where Siegfried is Shirou’s servant. Those two would get along well.
ppl can talk all the shit they want about siegfried in FGO, but he was there when i needed someone to wreck artoria lancer's face at camelot.
thanks sumanai
10:27 *EMIYA intensifies*
I feel like that had Siegfried had a different master, things would have been different
Anyone else still pissed about how average he is in FGO? Should have easily been one of the best 5 star Sabers lore-wise...
Yes! Finally! *Sumanai-san's*
Fate/Lore. Awww... My comment isn't the first.. *S-Sumanai..*
Dai-kun Sumanai..
Sumanai for Siegfried being one of the *(hated/loved)* Servant in Fate/Grand Order and
Fate/Apocrypha
*Naisu Feyto Luru*
the similarities between Seigfried and Shirou are interesting it makes me wonder how things would play if Shirou summoned him instead also I find it funny that both factions had hero's who were invincible except for one place on there body
Shit someone write that down as a fanfic!
I wonder what Emiya thinks of Siegfried, since Siegfried pretty much aime to be a so called "Hero of Justice" himself...
It would be pretty interesting seeing them interact, as their lives kind of mirror each other (EMIYA lived his life wanting to become a hero of justice but ultimately became a weapon that acted according to people's wishes; Sigefried lived his life as a weapon that acted according to the people's wishes but ultimately wanted to become a Hero of Justice.)
In my opinion though, EMIYA probably wouldn't have that much of a problem with Sigefried, as Siegfried decided to become a Hero of Justice based on his own experiences unlike Shirou.
Great vid as always! F/GO really did my boy dirty with how they designed and treated him. Still, I really hope we get an Avenger Kriemhild servant someday, possibly wielding a more demonic Balmung.
This video was done with so much love and respect!! The description of his bout with Fafnir was detailed, i could literally see it all happening vividly!! This video has got to be one of my top 10 favorite lore video you have done!! Keep up the great work!
Delano Smith Thankfully Apocrypha had a very vivid dream where Sieg fought Fafnir. I used that as the base for Siegfried's fight.
You forgot to cover the part of The Great Holy Grail War where Achilles and Siegfried have a scrot-kicking competition.
Anyways, Siegfried is my favorite Saber in the Franchise. Speaking of hitting sacks, I watch "The Ring of the Nibelungs”, (2003 Miniseries) as white noise pretty much every night when I head to bed.
I love the different takes between the myth of the Nibelungenlied and the Volsunga Saga.
man your voice..... can't stop listening....
our boi sumanai here to always ruin your rerolls on new accounts
Yeagerzard 1998 and then you realize you actually need him because you have no good sabers...*glances at Seiba*: “your time will come. Someday”
My first 4 star Saber, love him very much and thanks again for the wonderful video!
Started playing Grand Order on NA recently and he came with my first mandatory roll... He was already one of my faves so I lowkey squealed with delight. So far he hasn't disappointed me once, and thanks to the Apocrypha event I've been able to turn him into an absolute beast... Love you, Sumanai. You'll always have a special place in my heart~
It’s kinda like Cu and his Gae Bolg being so OP, yet all we ever do is see him lose 😂
James Knott yes it is
*inhales* Sumanai!!!
Siegfried is best bro if he saved someone who isn't human
To be a hero of justice is to dream of achieving utopia.
But when you strive for perfection, you can never succeed - you're destined to fail.
After all...a hero of justice can only save those that he sides with.
When you save one, you forsake another.
To lead a revolution against a corrupt government is to bring chaos and war to a country.
But still...the dream of being a hero of justice...
...the goal, of saving everyone.
The wish for everyone to be happy.
There's no way those things could be wrong.
So, there's no way...
There's no way, that ideal is a mistake!
I think Seigfried would be a very interesting servant for Shirou to summon though. Not just because of all the similarity they have but because Seigfried's ideals were basically a more matured Shirou's ideals just missing that one last step to being perfect.
Caring for his own self-worth and happiness. Which, even then, he kinda did by going off to marry of his volition. Showing he was caring somewhat for his own sake.
Last Stardust plays
Thankyou otakudaikun for fulfilling my request
10:30 hmm sounds just like a certain redhead that doesn’t die when killed 🤔
Avalon is nice isnt it
I wish Siegfried got more screen time in Apocrypha.
Instead we got Siegfried's......clone? reincarnation? What is Sieg to Siegfried anyway?
@@bellamydoucette9530 son?
FINALLY
Though I can't say I ever found anything indicating any specific rank of attack Siegfried's immortality could not power through.
Kinda defeats the purpose of ..... well.... Immortality.
Also you left out his Dragon-Slayer skill and how it makes even his basic attack more Deadly against Dragons, Dragonic creatures and humans with the Dragon aspect like Arturia and Mordred.
Well, you also have to consider that apart from just nullifying attacks lower than A-Rank, the higher ranked attacks are also weakened, reducing A-Ranked attacks to E-Rank ones. So it is still pretty strong.
Dark-Slayer Apocrypha itself mentions that limitation.
OtakuDaiKun In the anime or Novel?
I didn't catch that in the anime and if it's in the Novel I must have forgotten.
But since I am familiar with the actual tale of Siegfried/Sigurd the blood that washed over him was supposed to give him skin as dense as Fafnir's.
Considering one of the often glossed over details that I read in my trip to Germany in the castle that was supposedly his.
There is this particular passage, if you'll indulge me for a moment (Also this is a rough translation my German is a work in progress)
"As the blood bathed hero was proclaimed equal to the Gods by the All Father and worthy to stand among them, Siegfried thanked him for the Honor and asked to return home. Odin granted this request and as he strode across the bridge back to the mortal realm he was stopped as a voice called out. Behind him stood the shining champion of the Gods, Baldur claiming Siegfried's arrogance and how dare he consider himself on equal ground to the Gods. As Siegfried protested that was not the case, the champion lunged forward with his sword drawn ready to liberate Siegfried's head from its neck. As the blade met his flesh it shattered and the shock from the blow cracked the Rainbow bridge beneath their feet. Behind Siegfried, the cracks took the pattern of the very wings belonging to the once evil Dragon he had slain and Baldur returned home with not a word hanging his head in shame that a mortal had shattered his legendary blade".
I mean nerfing is one thing but legends say he tanked blows from the Gods.
To say he can only take B rank or below?
That's ain't no nerd that's just down right stripping power away. :T
@@Wolfs0n
Its mentioned in the LN during Siegfried's fight with Karna in Volume 1. It also come sup later, for example in the Mordred and Sieg fight. I'm pretty sure the anime doesn't mention it though.
And the ability is still really good. As I said, you need attacks that exceed A-Rank to deal any significant damage to him if you are just using basic attacks. And if you try using Noble Phantasms, you need even higher ranked attacks as the "armor's" reduction abilities are further increased. So many Servants just are unable to damage him outright.
Dark-Slayer The novel.
our dragon boi was just trying his best
With the Chinese lostbelt coming up you should do a fate lore on everyone favorite Chinese monk Xuanzang.
So when will Kriemhild become a Servant? I would like to see her, Siegfried, and Altera all together in the same room
worldwanderer91 That would be so bad. 😂😂😅👍
@@fun_phantom9733 Especially if Brynhildr shows up too. Altera's 2nd Interlude has her being confronted by a yandere Brynhildr because Altera somehow has Siegfried's scent on herself
Oh, I never knew that part.
In a different universe Male Altera is Attila : I am Attila and I am the Scourge of God and I’ll watch your world burn
@@kaybevang536 Wow!
He want to become a Hero of Justice? Here's what EMIYA say.
EMIYA: I saw Hell.
Interactions between them both are so good
I really wish he interacted with Sigurd
Awesome video on Seigfried
Otakudaikun this lore vid was awesome I hope you will do Sigurd’s lore story.
I sure love me a freshly made video.
I like that you added the stuff that happened after Siegfried died like Kriemhild’s marriage to Altera and the civil war.
Personally, I think one of the most interesting things about Siegfried is that he has no knowledge of how he defeated Fafnir, because the whole battle was only talked about briefly in the Nibelungenlied. Just a small thing that shows how well his legend is incorporated into his character.
That's kinda hilarious
Arthur:so that's how I defeated a dragon, how about you?
Siegfried: I stabbed it I think?
Nice job on Siegfried
I’ll admit I recently took a bit from Siegfried’s story for a dnd session it’s a good story with a scarring conclusion
Despite some questionable acts he committed granting others wishes, he is truly an honorable hero, and one to be admired. Now.. if only his presence in Grand Order wasn’t such a joke 😂
Wow! I didnt know bryndhil and atilla and siegfried are related in another legend i only know the sigurd and bryndhil legend. Interesting!
Brynhild is Sigurd’s girlfriend and a different character from the Brunhild in Siegfried’s legend. Besides, Kriemhild was the one who married Altera.
Ron2Millionare so historically Attila married her ?
@@kaybevang536
Well, I believe that historically Kriemhild is believed to maybe be based on Ildico, who was the last wife of Attila (at least as far as my historical understanding goes)
Balmug and gram are the same name siegfried so imagine being the guy screaming his own name and a getsuga tensho blast happens.
He needs his own anime his story is not just one that on screen would be epic and entertaining but also artistic.
Good job dai Sensai Sigfried was the first gold star servant I got in the game he is great I don't care what other people say bad things about him he's really good.
That epic battle with Fafnir though.... Not sure if I spelled that right but who cares!
There are very few creatures that would bring ba points 1. Dragons,2.hyrdas,3. Demon lords
So just to make sure with everyone Siegfried is basically Shirou Emiya if he was born during medieval times and they would instantly become BFF's if Shirou were to summon him right?
These 2 would get along well. I cant say the same about Heroic Spirit Emiya though. He would probably despise Siegfried and maybe try to kill him.
@@bellamydoucette9530
I feel like EMIYA might not have as bad of a reaction to him as to Shirou though. Siegfried has his own reason and motives for wanting to become a Hero of Justice that are based on his own life experiences, unlike with Shirou.
@@A.Tolonen But Siegfried still wanted to become a hero of justice for the same reason as Shirou. To cover up his hollow heart. To make himself feel better. To save others and fight for the justice he believes in.
@@bellamydoucette9530
Well, yes, but Siegfried came to the decision to become a Hero of Justice on his own. It his own ideal, that he decided to pursue after having experienced what the world was really like, not something that he inherited from another. His reasons to pursue that ideal are just a lot more personal to begin with.
I'm not saying that EMIYA would like Siegfried, but I don't think his reaction would be the same as with Shirou, as EMIYA had a lot more a personal issue with that.
@@A.Tolonen Shirou's ideal isn't borrowed. He himself asked Kiritsugu if its possible to save everyone. He himself already wanted to become a hero of justice. Kiritsugu merely taught him the term ''hero of justice''.
Yay!! Seigfried has come!
It's a real shame the Real Siegfried didnt have a lot o screen time in the anime...
Even worse in fgo he shoved aside once again for big tits Jeanne.
this is a grate one.
My fav servant! 😍😍
Siegfried, the Seigi no Mikata
Finally i understand fate/aporcypha. I knew i missed something when sieg said its a story about a man who got his wish granted.
Yes finally I wanted to here about Siegfried
I love sieg... Stop bashing homunculus that life for 2 week most and sacrifice his own life just to seal damn magic and yes he deserves astolfo and Jeanne. Who know Siegfried somehow managed saving the world out of personality even he death. Sieg must shoulder hero name. That cool for me.
Huh, didn't realize seig swung both ways
Most people hate because of how self insert his character is. Cardboard cut characters gets a lot of flak especially after SAO.
@@KhanMann66 How is he a "self insert"? And of who is he a "self insert" of? Nasu? Higashide?
I’m a bit late but to me a lot of people seem to hate him just for the sake of hating him since a lot of loved characters have his flaws
Remember that Sumanai-kun beat #KarnaBestBoi
Wasn't there a TV movie about him, starring Kristina Loken and that woman who was the little girl from Dune?
Siegfried originally wasnt tanned skinned and white haired was he? The blood of the dragon changed his hair and skin color right?
Amakusa Kun I don't think so. But the slight black in his hair, might be.
Best boy.
I... I'm going to go level Sumani...now
Personally I think this is a more battle born king Arthur
Why
I've actually read the Nibelungenlied and volsunga saga which is why he's my favorite hero and servant period did you know he's a decendant of odin?
The original legend is even sadder
the legendary dragon slayer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It’s crazy how Balmung can be Cursed or Holy depending on the user
Next to lancelot, my favorite male saber
Sumanai is like the German Achilles 😉. Although I like his design and his personality, I think his weak spot should have been hidden better than with hair😀(but Fafnir armor does wonders)
I love Siegfried’s Legend, and realistically, if it weren’t for the cursed natured of Balmung, he’d be one of the most over powered Servants in Fate just because of his Invulnerability.
I’d also like to say that as much as I love the Germanic telling, I Enjoy the Nordic Telling of Sigurd’s Legend a lot more. Especially since it was the Template for Siegfried’s own tale. And as sad of a Tale as Siegfried’s is…I believe Sigurd’s has a level of tragedy that can’t easily be looked past.
Siegfried really needs to come back and get amped again
Waiting for the Tale of Nightmare......OH WAIT!!!!!
Btw what is true ether? I always wonder if balmung was divine construct since it was most likely made by dwarfs, you know, the ones who also made gungnir and mjolnir.
Edit: also fafnir is an absolutely strong for a dragon kind, even jeanne's fears the beast. Read turas realta if you want to know.
Personally I want more of seigfried then we got. I mean they put all the effort in to his character and backstory and his personal dilemma, but he there and gone. I would of liked to see him as a major character and or protagonist. I mean the only thing he lacks for an anime protagonist is not looking he is high school
Siegrou Friedmiya
Would Shirou get along with Seigfried?
Kyle Frei more like he'd sue him and Kiritsgu for stealing his shtick
They are both Heroes of Justice so they would get along well. Even better chemistry than Sieg and Siegfried. But then again, Tamamo Cat is also considered an "Ally of Justice" by FGO, so...basically Shirou would get along with anyone who is considered a Hero/Ally/Defender of Justice
How's Tamamo Cat a hero of Justice I thought Tamamo was an antihero Please explain?
@@hydrasfang I know, I have no idea how FGO classifies her as such. If you play the new Halloween event in NA, there is the last challenge quest which makes you only select Servants with traits [Ally of Justice] fate-go.cirnopedia.org/quest_event_us_20181025.php#nav
@@Wolfs0n Both of them lived before him though. Doesn't that make Shirou the copycat.
do brunehild next
That fact that siegfried was pit in war were the enemy heroes that were a complete bad match to siegfried like rider or lancer of red. If you think about it was like god(red) vs humans(black). It's was really an unfair situation. But nevertheless, siegfried is still my favorite hero despite all the hate he has.
What is Sieg to Siegfried really? Is he like....a clone or a reincarnation of him?
Siegfried
The biggest tool since Paul Bunyon's Axe
Poor guy.
I don’t know if you do requests but if u do can you find lore on Gawain
Sorry, Lancelot must come first. Order of popularity.
Please talk about siegyard
Kiba....oops wrong Sieg
didnt know Siegfried had a connection to Altera thats pretty neat
Luis Molina Yup, they shared a wife.
11:05 that's altera why is altera there
really curious how a battle between him and Achilles will play out since no one can hurt the other except if they know the other one's weak spot
Well, considering that Siegfried can only damage Achilles if he hits his heel, whereas Achilles could probably do damage with his chariot and most definitely with his shield I would say Achilles has the advantage.
Siegfried's weak point is also a lot easier to hit due to Achilles' speed.
nani !?!?! Atila is in Siegfried's legend ?!?!?!
@@aminebachir3394
Umm... Yeah.
It's even said in the video.
I said that because I heard it in the video :)
My boi otaku, later on animo I'll be blogging my oc Dante Ambrose of the berserker class heroic spirit, when I blog him would you like to check him out? And i like your vids
I always found it interesting how morals have changed over the ages. Like, how Siegfried is considered a "hero of justice" when he pretty much helped, like you said, other nobles get the women they fancied and in the case of Gunther actually helped him rape the woman that guy liked (by holding her down in bed). I guess that is simply a case of "different times, different morals" - during the time these stories were told for the first time, that was simply what a manly hero did, it was normal and people probably thought "wow, what a man!" :-)
Siegfried didnt consider himself a ''hero of justice''. It was at his time of dying that he decided that in his next life he would try to be one. And thus we have Sieg
freibier He must have done plenty of warrior stuff too tho.
We Dragon Slayer bois
Now do Sitonai
Welp his wife is here.
A really cool and powerful servant in FateA with interesting lore ... gets replaced by cardboard sumani jr in the show ...
What's the name of the song that briefly appears at 17:07 ?
alled zebu Not sure the name but it's from the 2006 Fate Stay Night anime.
@@otakudaikun thanks, appreciate the response sir :)
So as a servants his body is not immortal