I got my 13x7 w/ black hardware a week ago and maaaan i couldn't have picked better. Awesome ring from the brass shell and the gunshot crack from the diecast hoop. I play metal and this snare just fits perfectly. My setup is: Evans hybrid head on top (lug freq. about 335 Hz according to tunebot) and Evans hazy 300 on the bottom (lug freq. 400 Hz), Puresound Custom 30 snare wires, rather tight. Just an awesome combo
From the woods I dig the cherries. The brass I’d say the 13x7 either hoops. Side note, I was easily distracted by the sound of the kick drum too…sounded great in every mix. Thanks DCP crew for the detailed look and listen!
Disclaimer: I listened on my phone, without headphones, and in the bathtub. But in this very bad environment, I liked the black 14 x 6.5 best. For the wood I'm torn because I like the look of the walnut, but the sound of the mahogany better. But I like the look of the mahogany the least, by far. Oh, the struggles in buying a snare.
On the Wood side, I gotta go with the Walnut. It sounded the most "alive" to me. On the Brass side, I enjoyed both 14x6.5's and the 13x7 with the black hardware and die-cast hoops. They had the best combination of ring, tone, and sensitivity. Generally speaking, my favorite snares from all brands are usually brass 14x6.5's. You almost can't go wrong there.
Never been a fan of Ludwig wood snares, other brands do it (much) better and even in this demo there is no exception. As far as metal snares though, they are by far among the best. My fav are all the chrome/brass in all sizes. Really excellent for the price. And you are the best testers on the market! Keep going!!!
I liked them all! So much of a difference is made simply through different hoops. I loved all the wood snares, glad to see Ludwig offering different woods to fill out their lineup. The beech and walnut have such distinct and dissimilar voices; and such gorgeous graining. The finishes are superb!
The high tuned brass w/ diecast in both 14x6.5 and 13x7 sounded really Good. I personally lean more towards the 13 for that extra pop/crack, but that 14 would work for 90% of any music.
@@eliasarroyo4929 Um not sure, but to add a mountain to your choices, they uploaded a new video you might be interested in lol th-cam.com/video/8wD59FmHx1s/w-d-xo.html
My personal Wood Favorit it's Walnut. From Brass section I like 13*7 black hoops. But 14*6,5 white hoops very nice too. Thank's for your job! I have seen most of your videos, although I live far from the US and cannot buy drums from you, you help me understand what I need. You do a good and necessary job.
Wow! exciting new line of Ludwig snares that look as good as they sound. Loved all the wood drums, video provides a good comparison of the tonal qualities associated with each wood in addition to showcasing the drum. Sounds like there is a snare for every style and personality. You want to rock out, get the cherry. If you like being articulate, go for the beech. Fat and funky is what mahogany gives you. Dark and mysterious drummers might want to try the walnut. Only problem is going to be deciding. Or buying all 4. Thanks for the video.
The beech snare sounds spot on to the intro track. Love how the cheery snare has so much body at higher tuning. They're all great might have to start collecting
Great video, gotta say I liked all of the wood snares and considering they’re below $500, feels like a quality for less money. Wasn’t too into the metal snares but they did sound good. Another high quality video! Thanks!
It's fun how you automatically tends to play in higher tempo with high tuned snare 😁 Love the walnut and the cherry. Expected more from the mahogany. The metals were all great. My Supraphonic 6.5 is still no 1 since 79' or so.
My favorite was the universal......haha 😄 Actually love the idea here much like the SLP from Tama that you mentioned. My least favorite was actually the mahogany, which must be why I didn't keep a reissued ludwig jazzfest snare. I liked the cherry the best for wood models and the black over chrome. In the end, I have a 1970s Ludwig black galaxy sparkle acrolite that is still my least expensive and absolute best sounding snare. Nice review!
Are the black nickel over brass simply a new name for the "Black Magic" line, or are we getting seamless shells? USA hardware? What are the differences if any?
How does the brass shell differ from the NOB Super and Black Beauty shells - thickness, bearing edges, how it was made, etc.? Too bad there isn't an 8-lug version. I thought the 8-lug NOB Super sounded better than the 10-lug.
All the woods sound and look great, and I totally love tube lugs, well, everywhere. Great to see Ludwig staying competitive, and supplying drums for "most" drummers budgets ! They do know how it is done. Not sure if I can differentiate the woods too well, which may be because they are just veneers. I would probably pick the look I like most ?
14x5.5 Brass with the black die cast hoops is the one for me. That middling snare drum depth of 5.5-6" is my favourite and I'm surprised Ludwig doesn't make more drums of that size range. For that reason, I'd probably take this drum over any Black Beauty or COB. Is there any difference between this snare and the Black Magic?
I own the Ludwig Walnut….really digging it, still experimenting with low tuning on it to get it where I want…it sounds amazing on this demo tuned low fully miced up…. my question is, at that low tuning, on all of the wood snares actually, was the reso head cranked or tuned medium or lower? Also snare wires… tight or on the loose side in these demo tunings? Thanks for the great videos👍
First off my favorites 1. The 13X7 Brass w Black hoops 2. The Walnut You just have to throw some better heads and you’re in business. I already own a Ludwig Black Beauty and a Ludwig Hammered Brass so I can’t pull the $$$ but I think I might be tempted to get that Walnut and put some Aquarian Heads on there
It's obvious that Ludwig is going all in with so many models and configurations to choose from. Consider the alternate takes on their Black Beauty offered in 8 version here (different diameters, depths and hardware, including what looks like die cast hoops on some). It probably spells the end of their Black Magic copy of their own drum, but I believe these are all made in Taiwan. The brass shells are not seamless; you can find the weld when looking through the bottom (reso) head. The finish is first rate, though. The heads, not so much (noticeably uneven spray and even a glob or two of the coating was noticed). A clerk at the store told me the box was almost exactly the same as the one they got a Pork Pie snare in (also black chrome over brass with tube lugs - the "BOB" copy of a Black Beauty). He believes they come from the same manufacturer in Taiwan and are made to the specs of each company whose badge appears on them. All that said, if you want the real deal, you're going to pay handsomely for it. These are Ludwig's own knockoffs, though they probably have a successful combination of value for the money. Tempting, but only the original can truly boast its own heritage. I'm holding out.
Disclaimers: guitarist here, listening on an iPhone. That said, liked high-tuned cherry and mahogany-good thwack that could sit well in a mix, with very controlled overtones that don’t sound like I’m hitting a basketball with a white oak dingy oar.
13x7 Black hardware. They’re all great. But the best to my ears was the 13” die cast version. Controlled with depth. My most favorite snare I owned (out of many…) was a 13x7 OCDP maple snare from GC. Paid $109 with GC employee discount. Used a clear black dot Remo head. Man. That thing was the biz! That’s the only die cast snare I’ve ever owned. This video reminded me that I love die cast. Uffff. But I didn’t like the way that OCDP looked. 😆 red sparkle with black die cast hdwr. Sounded and felt amazing. Well, I need to order some die cast hoops off drum foundry!
These are made overseas, basically replacing the Black Magic series with the addition of 4 wood shell models. If these were USA made the price would be more in line with the Supraphonics.
So that's what happened to the Black Magic series! At least they have all Ludwig-designed parts now. Are these all made in Taiwan, maybe China? Usually 'goofy' Ludwig badges = made overseas.
The shell on the brass drums is almost certainly the same imported shell used by many manufacturers and custom builders. Imported into the US and sold direct to consumers through WorldMax. Don't like the badge? Take it off and replace it with one of the Keystone replicas you can buy on eBay.
@@MeTuLHeD No way! Not after Ludwig went through the trouble of putting quotes around Universal on the new badge. Not sure if that means it's not really universal, or it truly is universal. :D
Man, how can you sit behind a sixties look Ludwig kit and not knock out some killer Ringo grooves? Sheesh you Canadians are different! I want all the snares in all the sizes...
Cherry for me; perfect mix of bark and tone, with that slight ring that lands in the sweet spot. Just spanks 🤙🤙
I'm a sucker for cherry...the sound and the wood grain! Now, I wish I would've been awake for the uncensored version! Fantastic job as always DCP!!!
Thanks Rusty!
I got my 13x7 w/ black hardware a week ago and maaaan i couldn't have picked better. Awesome ring from the brass shell and the gunshot crack from the diecast hoop. I play metal and this snare just fits perfectly. My setup is: Evans hybrid head on top (lug freq. about 335 Hz according to tunebot) and Evans hazy 300 on the bottom (lug freq. 400 Hz), Puresound Custom 30 snare wires, rather tight. Just an awesome combo
Just heard one of these in person yesterday and my mind was blown. The 8x14 brass is incredible.
Late night post…but I’m here, love you guys!
Glad I'm not the only one! We appreciate you!
From the woods I dig the cherries. The brass I’d say the 13x7 either hoops. Side note, I was easily distracted by the sound of the kick drum too…sounded great in every mix. Thanks DCP crew for the detailed look and listen!
I was pretty happy with how the kick sounded on this one!
Purchased the Walnut from you guys a few months ago.
Absolutely love it!!! Threw a P3 coated on it and sounds epic!!!! Thank you DCP!!!!
Great to hear and thanks for the support!
Ooooo baby! New Ludwig snares that even lowly ME can afford!
That Mahogany! That 14x8 Brass with Chrome!
Disclaimer: I listened on my phone, without headphones, and in the bathtub. But in this very bad environment, I liked the black 14 x 6.5 best. For the wood I'm torn because I like the look of the walnut, but the sound of the mahogany better. But I like the look of the mahogany the least, by far. Oh, the struggles in buying a snare.
Ludwig sure know how to make a snare! Not a bad one in the bunch.
Killer drums , amazing review as always!!!
Best Regards
Thanks, Zurdo!
On the Wood side, I gotta go with the Walnut. It sounded the most "alive" to me. On the Brass side, I enjoyed both 14x6.5's and the 13x7 with the black hardware and die-cast hoops. They had the best combination of ring, tone, and sensitivity. Generally speaking, my favorite snares from all brands are usually brass 14x6.5's. You almost can't go wrong there.
That cherry snare was outrageous. Love it!
Never been a fan of Ludwig wood snares, other brands do it (much) better and even in this demo there is no exception. As far as metal snares though, they are by far among the best. My fav are all the chrome/brass in all sizes. Really excellent for the price. And you are the best testers on the market! Keep going!!!
I thought the Jazz Festival was a hell of a wood snare drum. The one I would go for if I want a wood snare by Ludwig.
I liked them all! So much of a difference is made simply through different hoops. I loved all the wood snares, glad to see Ludwig offering different woods to fill out their lineup. The beech and walnut have such distinct and dissimilar voices; and such gorgeous graining. The finishes are superb!
I am impressed, was not expecting much really. I really liked the Beech and the Brass!
The black chrome and brass shell!😍
The high tuned brass w/ diecast in both 14x6.5 and 13x7 sounded really
Good. I personally lean more towards the 13 for that extra pop/crack, but that 14 would work for 90% of any music.
What do you think between that 13x7 brass with the yamaha custon 13x6.5 brass snare?
@@eliasarroyo4929 Um not sure, but to add a mountain to your choices, they uploaded a new video you might be interested in lol th-cam.com/video/8wD59FmHx1s/w-d-xo.html
Wood, beech high tuning got some snap man, the 13x7 black magic is impressive
I liked Brass w/ Chrome 14x8 :)
My personal Wood Favorit it's Walnut. From Brass section I like 13*7 black hoops. But 14*6,5 white hoops very nice too. Thank's for your job! I have seen most of your videos, although I live far from the US and cannot buy drums from you, you help me understand what I need. You do a good and necessary job.
Wow! exciting new line of Ludwig snares that look as good as they sound. Loved all the wood drums, video provides a good comparison of the tonal qualities associated with each wood in addition to showcasing the drum. Sounds like there is a snare for every style and personality. You want to rock out, get the cherry. If you like being articulate, go for the beech. Fat and funky is what mahogany gives you. Dark and mysterious drummers might want to try the walnut. Only problem is going to be deciding. Or buying all 4. Thanks for the video.
The beech snare sounds spot on to the intro track. Love how the cheery snare has so much body at higher tuning. They're all great might have to start collecting
I've played more snares than I can count, but the best sound for me has been the basic 6.5" Classic Maple. It's hard to make it sound bad.
I like the mahogany.
Great video, gotta say I liked all of the wood snares and considering they’re below $500, feels like a quality for less money. Wasn’t too into the metal snares but they did sound good. Another high quality video! Thanks!
So this would be Ludwigs version of the Tama SLP line. Terry did you have something to do with this?
It's fun how you automatically tends to play in higher tempo with high tuned snare 😁
Love the walnut and the cherry. Expected more from the mahogany.
The metals were all great. My Supraphonic 6.5 is still no 1 since 79' or so.
We did the math, and adjusted pricing makes it like 369.00 in 1920 dollars
my grandmother bought me a 14x5.5 black brass with the black nickel hardware
and I am lost for words it comes in this week
Ludwig king of snares.
Got one of these black nickel over brass before they released. Loving it so far!
My favorite was the universal......haha 😄 Actually love the idea here much like the SLP from Tama that you mentioned. My least favorite was actually the mahogany, which must be why I didn't keep a reissued ludwig jazzfest snare. I liked the cherry the best for wood models and the black over chrome. In the end, I have a 1970s Ludwig black galaxy sparkle acrolite that is still my least expensive and absolute best sounding snare. Nice review!
they all sound killer. kudos to LD!
I've tried the 14x6.5 Mahogany in person, and it sounded really good.
Really like the Black 14x8 sounds great!They all sound good!
Brass w/black 14-6.5 in the higher tuning is prolly the best metal snare I've ever heard, better than the black beauty. Prolly have to pick one up
I want to play like you do! Love your drumming.
Are the black nickel over brass simply a new name for the "Black Magic" line, or are we getting seamless shells? USA hardware? What are the differences if any?
The only difference is the badge and throwoff
Great review, as always. All great sounding. Not a dud in the bunch.
Glad you enjoyed it
I need a 14x8 brass with die cast hoops right now!!!! 🔥🔥🔥
www.drumcenternh.com/ludwig-universal-brass-snare-drum-14x8-w-black-hardware
“Somewhat unsatisfactory.” 😂 I may have replayed that bit a few times.
Right?! That caught me off guard.
How does the brass shell differ from the NOB Super and Black Beauty shells - thickness, bearing edges, how it was made, etc.?
Too bad there isn't an 8-lug version. I thought the 8-lug NOB Super sounded better than the 10-lug.
All the woods sound and look great, and I totally love tube lugs, well, everywhere. Great to see Ludwig staying competitive, and supplying drums for "most" drummers budgets ! They do know how it is done. Not sure if I can differentiate the woods too well, which may be because they are just veneers. I would probably pick the look I like most ?
13×7 black magic with die cast for me. 😍🔥
14x5.5 Brass with the black die cast hoops is the one for me. That middling snare drum depth of 5.5-6" is my favourite and I'm surprised Ludwig doesn't make more drums of that size range. For that reason, I'd probably take this drum over any Black Beauty or COB. Is there any difference between this snare and the Black Magic?
I own the Ludwig Walnut….really digging it, still experimenting with low tuning on it to get it where I want…it sounds amazing on this demo tuned low fully miced up…. my question is, at that low tuning, on all of the wood snares actually, was the reso head cranked or tuned medium or lower? Also snare wires… tight or on the loose side in these demo tunings? Thanks for the great videos👍
I’m not a big Ludwig fan, but this new line of snare drums are very nice. Shane isn’t a bad drummer, either.
Any of the brass w/chrome, high, for me 🦻👍
Might have to grab the Cherry just cause it matches the inside of my NeuSonic kit
Sounds like a good enough reason!
Shane, what was your favorite?
First off my favorites 1. The 13X7 Brass w Black hoops 2. The Walnut
You just have to throw some better heads and you’re in business. I already own a Ludwig Black Beauty and a Ludwig Hammered Brass so I can’t pull the $$$ but I think I might be tempted to get that Walnut and put some Aquarian Heads on there
Which Aquarian head would you recommend? Thank you.
Walnut , Cherry and Brass w/chrome (13x7) is my top 3, in no particular order
Are the hoops 2.3mm? (brass w/chrome) Thanks
I actually love the sound of all of them. I would probably lean towards the brass. Are they a seamless shell or the same as the original black magic?
Same as the black magic.
Ok so what’s the difference between that and the Black Magic ?
Does anyone know the thickness of the triple flange hoops? Are they 2.3m?
Love the Beech 😍
I liked the cherry snare with “low” tuning
It's obvious that Ludwig is going all in with so many models and configurations to choose from. Consider the alternate takes on their Black Beauty offered in 8 version here (different diameters, depths and hardware, including what looks like die cast hoops on some). It probably spells the end of their Black Magic copy of their own drum, but I believe these are all made in Taiwan. The brass shells are not seamless; you can find the weld when looking through the bottom (reso) head. The finish is first rate, though. The heads, not so much (noticeably uneven spray and even a glob or two of the coating was noticed). A clerk at the store told me the box was almost exactly the same as the one they got a Pork Pie snare in (also black chrome over brass with tube lugs - the "BOB" copy of a Black Beauty). He believes they come from the same manufacturer in Taiwan and are made to the specs of each company whose badge appears on them. All that said, if you want the real deal, you're going to pay handsomely for it. These are Ludwig's own knockoffs, though they probably have a successful combination of value for the money. Tempting, but only the original can truly boast its own heritage. I'm holding out.
if you don't use the cheap remo heads, they're not bad to keep around for reso heads
Disclaimers: guitarist here, listening on an iPhone. That said, liked high-tuned cherry and mahogany-good thwack that could sit well in a mix, with very controlled overtones that don’t sound like I’m hitting a basketball with a white oak dingy oar.
13x7 Black hardware. They’re all great. But the best to my ears was the 13” die cast version. Controlled with depth. My most favorite snare I owned (out of many…) was a 13x7 OCDP maple snare from GC. Paid $109 with GC employee discount. Used a clear black dot Remo head. Man. That thing was the biz! That’s the only die cast snare I’ve ever owned. This video reminded me that I love die cast. Uffff. But I didn’t like the way that OCDP looked. 😆 red sparkle with black die cast hdwr. Sounded and felt amazing. Well, I need to order some die cast hoops off drum foundry!
I have a new 8x14 Maple Standard Ludwig it has that P88 with the clicking knob. I don’t really like it. I’d prefer the smooth one.
Please make a video about the French made ASBA JR Robinson signature!
Brass w/black 13/7
🤘🏽
0:09 barely meeting deadlines since 2009. Hilarious 😆
1:51 This is why Shane & crew delivers the best content / advice they can give. Saying the absolute truth. Absolute fucking garbage.
The dude that wears the button down shirt is a good drummer. He just needs to hit with conviction
My favorite sizes are 5.5" & 6"x14 in anything.
USA or overseas manufacturing?
My question as well.
These are made overseas, basically replacing the Black Magic series with the addition of 4 wood shell models. If these were USA made the price would be more in line with the Supraphonics.
L I love 💕❤️😚🙂😘😎 Ludwig brass with die cast Hoops black nickel hardware snare drum 6.5
i gata stop watching these videos after just buying a new snare..I want the walnut, beach and cheery
Mmmm. Cherry!
So that's what happened to the Black Magic series! At least they have all Ludwig-designed parts now. Are these all made in Taiwan, maybe China? Usually 'goofy' Ludwig badges = made overseas.
The shell on the brass drums is almost certainly the same imported shell used by many manufacturers and custom builders. Imported into the US and sold direct to consumers through WorldMax.
Don't like the badge? Take it off and replace it with one of the Keystone replicas you can buy on eBay.
@@MeTuLHeD No way! Not after Ludwig went through the trouble of putting quotes around Universal on the new badge. Not sure if that means it's not really universal, or it truly is universal. :D
@@bgnPrinceton If you like, I can draw quotes around Ludwig on my fake Keystone badges. :D
Cherry high. Mahogany low for me. 👂👍
I only ever seem to like metal snares 😂
What’s the difference between this brass and the BLACK MAGIC ….
This brass Universal model replaces the Black Magic. They are very similar to one another. The shells are the same but the hardware has been upgraded.
@@drumcenternh
Thanks 🙂👍🏿
Who else is a little frustrated when Ludwig comes out with something new?
I need more money in my bank to keep up! 😂
all sounded like Ludwigs....crazy
Walnut
Man, how can you sit behind a sixties look Ludwig kit and not
knock out some killer Ringo grooves?
Sheesh you Canadians are different!
I want all the snares in all the sizes...
We've been accused of many things in the comment section, but being Canadian is a new one.
@@adamfrost3722 surely any respectable American drummer can knock out a Beatles tune..
Canadian eh?
@@johncollins5552 we never claimed to be respectable
@@adamfrost3722 On all my visits to the store I never knew that New Hampshire was part of Canada!
1:50 somewhat unsatisfactory = F*ckin awful
$22.50 each. SIGN ME UP! I’ll take one in each size please.
I wouldn’t pay $449 for any of those wood snares, but that black on black brass is pretty much the perfect snare drum.
Lip reader.... "Absolutely pharking awful". 😉👍
Close 🙃
@@adamfrost3722 “barking” maybe? Yeah, must be “barking.”
Longest video ever.
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