Games are "cool" when lots of stuff happens, but not fun when 2 players are in a sniper fight standoff, while the other 2 are still getting dressed. Idk I would unapologetically throw everything i had at both the korvold player and the mairsil player. Deny korvold from the board and force mairsil to spend all their mana. There were clear gaps in the level of interaction which i think is why this looked like a feelsbad game in my opinion.
When your opponent tutors for a tainted pact, plays it, and you are countering it with an ionize. Seems like this game was a little unbalanced. Not gonna lie. That Mairsil deck is pretty spicy. Haven't seen one in play. Even from the opening hand with Pack Rat, I knew it was going to be something.
Not sure it would of helped, but there was a missed a Faerie Artisans trigger with the Dockside Extortionist. Those 4+ treasures could of been turned into other tokens with Brudiclad or used for mana.
If you own and control Pendant of Prosperity, you actually get two cards and two land drops when you activate it. Same goes for Mairsil if it has the Pendant's ability.
@@ferdithetank7535 Yes. Whenever a card has [Cardname] on it, that text is actually just [the name of whatever card this is]. So anytime a card has a different name than the text box would indicate for whatever reason, you just assume the text is changed to fit the new card. 201.4b If an ability of an object refers to that object by name, and an object with a different name gains that ability, each instance of the first name in the gained ability that refers to the first object by name should be treated as the second name
@@ferdithetank7535 When a card, spell or permanent uses its own name in its abilities/effects, it means [this card/permanent/spell]. Since Mairsil has the Pendant's ability, it'll read [this creature] or [Mairsil, the Pretender].
We cannot guess much but for personal experience on a mid-power table a Norn deck can be good if completely based on tokens with 20 to 25 mana sources.
@@gaston6671 I'm pretty sure with a tutor for Oracle or something like that, Mairsil would have won that game though, not enough interaction from Korvold aside from the pyroblast.
(Harry) The deck is super fun and does a lot of crazy things with some offbeat cards, I'd suggest it. People to complain that it's hard to interact with but it's a lot more complicated to play than it looks and leads to a lot of cool situations. Personally I enjoy using Mirror Mad to mill my library or Aetherling + Nevs Disk to lock the board.
Thanks for uploading this! I’m building a Mono White deck and having actual gameplay footage of how they perform is very helpful. I’m binging all the mono white games
So 2 players have inf. treasures, mana, and draw. Here is what happens Korvold player goes to play a combo piece in response Brudiclad draws all but 1 card in his deck and uses all of his counter spells and stops the korvold player from combo winning.
Brudiclad cannot counter any of Korvold's creatures due to Rhythm of the Wild, and he could not provide enough instant speed interactions to slow Korvold down; they explain this in the post game notes.
all the korvold player would have had to do is play to stop that would be to bounce/replay dockside until he had enough mana to cast korvold then bounce/replay dockside again after that to stop the brudiclad player from drawing there deck.
@@sw0rdhunter Ok but the Korvold player had already made infinite treasures with dockside before he recast his commander, Korvold enters Faerie artisans makes a copy. Korvold player draws his deck goes to cast a win con, in response Brudiclad player sacs treasures until he gets the cards needed to counter said wincons and also grabs cyclonic rift to temporarily remove rhythm of the wild to counter creature spells. Or brudiclad player draws nearly his entire deck in response to any creature entering after corvold enters, casts overloaded clyclonic rift and then leaves treasures up to counter any wincons from entering.
As someone who has Mairsail in his arsenal it’s always exciting to see a new muddstah video in my sub box featuring him. It’s been a while since the last time that happened lol
I've heard the prossh vs korvold arguement a lot and as someone who has played both I just believe them to be different decks with different intentions
I've owned and played both in casual and competitive settings. I think Prossh is more streamlined for a single win condition combo, but Korvold is more versatile and can utilize the same combo as well as a few other pieces for a wider range of coverage if something gets shut down. One is more about tutoring the necessary pieces and the other seems more likely to draw them out and keep up a full grip of cards.
On the debate of Korvold VS Prossh, I think it depends on what you want for your deck. Korvold gives you cards, but also relies a lot more on other cards to reach its full potential, while Prossh doesn't give you advantage in cards, but has more standalone power. Either way, if one is the commander, the other absolutely deserves a slot in the 99, because they complement each other so well. Swap and test them to see which one you like more.
I agree Korvold 100% needs to be in the 99 in a deck with Prossh as the commander. However I don't think Prossh is good enough to play in the 99 with Korvold as the commander. The difference is with Prossh it is usually played with Food Chain combos in mind as the commander. Korvold can take advantage of this because of the token sac loop. However if Prossh isn't your commander then you don't have a loop that can generate creature mana and tokens with the same consistency. You are likely already running a Food Chain in Korvold as well so you only need Squee or the Eldrazi for the loop. Because Prossh isn't needed when he isn't the commander running him as a 6 drop value card is highly inefficient. He doesn't provide a direct win con in the same way he would if he was the commander. I have a Food Chain Prossh deck so I have done a lot of testing both ways and this is just one of the results. I have also tested with different win cons like Worldgorger Loop and Necrotic Combo. I also believe that Korvold is the better commander of the two. Not running Prossh gives you an extra slot for a better card. Also Korvold being one less to cast and immediately drawing you a card and being a card draw engine makes him a stronger choice. I purposely chose to run Prossh as my commander because he is a weaker option. I play against a variety of players and I usually have the stronger decks already so playing Korvold as the commander would be to much of a power gap.
Also, if Harry isn't aware of it, someone tell him that he can flicker Mairsil during the second main phase (just as the player announces they're ending the turn, hold priority before the game moves to the end step) and get an ETB in that turn's end step.
(Harry) I am aware but I often flicker on my opponents end steps before my turn so I can draw an extra card to put under Mairsil or, if I'm tight on mana, assure Mairsil lands with enough mana for another activation to save him.
This is probably among the poorest performances I've ever seen a Trevor deck have. Good ol Mono-White.. keeping us humble by sometimes just being terrible.
Yep, had that moment when i feel like i want korvold, but I'll be keeping Prossh. Other than combo, Its more fun to one punch a player, then fling Prossh to another player..
Or double Prossh's power after feeding the kobolds to it for an instant kill through commander damage (hello, Xenagos). Also, dropping Prossh on the field with Purphoros there and watching the world BURN...
i am particulary interested in the mairsil deck. I own a mairsil deck myself and even though this deck is good, I feel like it lacks boardcontrol, ways 2 deal with agro (i run archytype of aggression so i can block all day and manasinks like geth, lord of the vault. Also, i would have tutored for arcanis to begin with. I never entomb an eatherling without a way to exile an arcanis the same or next turn. Step through is a MUST include as it finds a wizard but is also decent as a spell (very decent actually).
I can't begin to imagine the identity crisis that Faerie Artisan token is going through. Every turn they're a different creature. Only knowing who they are for a solid 45 seconds. Rough.
The key to make Mairsil so explosive is to get that Aetherling in exile with that cage counter. It makes Mairsil almost impossible to get rid of and lets it stockpile on abilities turn after turn. If Harry had managed to get Nevinyrral's Disk there as well, the game would've been over for everyone else: Harry would clear the board over and over again while flickering Mairsil in response so it would survive.
I don't think Korvold is strictly better than Prossh. For a combo deck, sure because you draw more cards to get to your combo. But how do you win with Korvold outside of combo? You make him huge, but you need an engine online, with things to sac and ways to sac them, because you can only sac once per turn with only him. And if he gets removed you are back to square one. Prossh is an engine and a wincon all on himself. Pop one opponent with just a tainted strike, xenagos, bloodmist, temur battle rage, etc. Oh they removed him? Well, I get even more tokens on recast and y'all take 18 from purphoros. This post was made by the Prossh gang.
Small thing but if you could use regular sized dice like mike has maybe even white ones like they use for official Mtg events so it’s easier too see instead of those teeny tiny ones it’d make it easier to keep track of what’s happening :)
Great content, but it always seems like there is some distortion and other audio artifacts. Not sure where in your audio chain that may be happening, but I thought I would mention it.
uh, big mistake not letting (or realizing maybe) mike draw his whole deck too, he could've easily stopped the Korvold player with infinite treasures and his whole deck in hand...
Matt had Rhythm of the Wild and most of his wincons were creature-based. Mike's only answer against the Rhythm was Chaos Warp, which is useless when your opponent has drawn their entire library.
Cristian Prado pretty much what has already been said. Mike’s only answer was a counter and Matt had creature based wincons that were protected by Rhythm. They discussed it but sadly you guys don’t hear the audio. Sorry!
@@MTGMuddstah He had a cyclonic rift, chaos warp (both could've bounced the rhythm so he could counter creatures, curse of the swine, reality shift) and like 7 counters in his deck, jeez did you even read Mike's decklist? I've heard your description at the end but I think the reason you said that is.so you can justify your mistakes of not seeing that huge misplay... anyway, I guess the cEDH deck was going to win either way
As a Cagmaster Mairsil player, I can confirm that he's super fun. Harthless Hidestugu with infect of lifelink, Tree of Perdition with a Hateflayer, Nev Disk with a flicker effect, the numerous ways to get infinite mana, it's great all around. Just be sure to carry protection because the rest of the table will get antsy at some point in the game.
Didn't Mairsil have a win to shoot for way early on? Activate the Pack Rat, hold priority. Then activate Mirror-Mad, milling the deck and killing the normal mairsil. Exile The Scarab God when Token-Mairisil enters, then eternalize Thassa's Oracle? The scarab + oracle is in the deck list, at least.
I need to ask something with pendant of prosperity, he should be drawing 2 and putting 2 lands on the battlefield? since he activates it and he's the owner.
Mike didn't need an instant speed win con, if he drew out his library with infinite mana he would inevitably draw the counterspells he would need to shut down Matt
Seeing a lot of hate for the Mairsil deck's power, but it's looks much weaker than the Korvold decks. He had Mirror-mad Phantasm caged for at least 4 turn cycles and didn't have a win for it in his deck. The Aetherling interaction was strong, but by no means non-interactive or an outlet that gave one player the game.
10:51 Mairsil was summoning sick there, right? Or am I missing something? EDIT: And at 12:52 (the Spark Double copy being summoning sick); 13:23 I have to be missing something hakanjsnsjs
There was a 6 power attack to Korvold, and some no attacks from the brudiclad ... that could've removed marsil from the game. Why didnt he acknowledge the marsil as the biggest thread on the board? Well, that's how marsil wins. Infinite combos, although the rat pack one was spicy as hell.
Edit: I see, there's a Pack Rat/Scarab God line. But he didn't have enough mana to go for it until turn 8. He could have used Pack Rat's ability on Mike's second main and responded with Aetherling's flicker, then resolved them and used the token's Mirror-Mad ability to mill himself out. On the end step he'd get the real Mairsil back and exile Scarab God, then go to his turn and make a token Thassa's Oracle on his upkeep. But that plan could be blown out by removal on Mike's end step, since he didn't also have mana for another Pack Rat. Even if he flickered in response, he wouldn't control a Mairsil during his upkeep and would die on his draw. We don't know if he had the Force of Will at the time. And it turned out Matt did have the ability to Reap back his Pyroblast.
@@NMS127 no he wouldn't. It shuffles the commander in and you flip till you find your commander, giving you multiple options when he comes back into play, 2 mana to literally find your combo and win.
@@joshuadouglas8452 Mirror-Mad Phantasm doesn't work like you think it does in a Mairsil Deck. If you activate it's ability, you would shuffle Mairsil into the deck but since there are no cards named Mirror-Mad Phantasm in the deck (because you are searching for a card NAMED Mirror-Mad Phantasm and it is exiled), you put your entire deck in your graveyard, including Mairsil (unless you put him back in the command zone). It is a fantastic combo with Thassa's Oracle though.
@@crovax1375 Gyruda denies you Sol Ring, blue's usual stash of one-mana cantrip spells, Mystic Remora, Rhystic Study, all mana-free counterspells (FoW, Pact of Negation, Force of Negation and Fierce Guardianship) and important black cards such as Dark Ritual and Vampiric Tutor. It also makes your deck extremely vulnerable to a Void Winnower lockdown. Obosh is less severe, but losing access to Signets and other 2 CMC mana rocks is still a heavy blow, especially in Rakdos. And the universal disadvantage about companions as a whole: they give your opponents free information about what your deck DOESN'T have, so they know they don't have to play around it.
I’ve made a Tasigur deck with Gyruda as companion. I wouldn’t call it cEDH by any means but the color scheme gets a lot of good even cmc cards (plus all the clones you need to mill yourself out if you prefer that kind of stuff). It’s done well for me so far!
Korvold is such a boring, boring deck to watch people play and to play against. And when it's a cEDH version at a non-cEDH table, it just becomes even more boring and an example of pubstomping.
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I really feel like in this game two people brought out knives and two people brought nuclear bombs in to the fight.
Games are "cool" when lots of stuff happens, but not fun when 2 players are in a sniper fight standoff, while the other 2 are still getting dressed. Idk I would unapologetically throw everything i had at both the korvold player and the mairsil player. Deny korvold from the board and force mairsil to spend all their mana. There were clear gaps in the level of interaction which i think is why this looked like a feelsbad game in my opinion.
The korvold really didn’t belong at this table, he even describes his deck as cEDH.
He just wants his free win kek
I love seeing Marsil+Spark Double+ Pack Rats. Making infinite Marsils is hilarious.
That korvold deck is in a different power level than the rest of the decks...
When your opponent tutors for a tainted pact, plays it, and you are countering it with an ionize. Seems like this game was a little unbalanced. Not gonna lie.
That Mairsil deck is pretty spicy. Haven't seen one in play. Even from the opening hand with Pack Rat, I knew it was going to be something.
Not sure it would of helped, but there was a missed a Faerie Artisans trigger with the Dockside Extortionist. Those 4+ treasures could of been turned into other tokens with Brudiclad or used for mana.
Not only would Mike have got some treasures, but the treasures Mike got would have been seen by Matt's original Dockside Extortionist!
If you own and control Pendant of Prosperity, you actually get two cards and two land drops when you activate it. Same goes for Mairsil if it has the Pendant's ability.
Oh nice!
Does it "see" the Pendant though if it is not on the battlefield?
@@ferdithetank7535 Yes. Whenever a card has [Cardname] on it, that text is actually just [the name of whatever card this is]. So anytime a card has a different name than the text box would indicate for whatever reason, you just assume the text is changed to fit the new card.
201.4b If an ability of an object refers to that object by name, and an object with a different name
gains that ability, each instance of the first name in the gained ability that refers to the first
object by name should be treated as the second name
"Learn something new everyday."
@@ferdithetank7535 When a card, spell or permanent uses its own name in its abilities/effects, it means [this card/permanent/spell]. Since Mairsil has the Pendant's ability, it'll read [this creature] or [Mairsil, the Pretender].
Foodchain Korvold in a casual MTG Muddstah game. Matt needs to be ejected.
Monowhite doing monowhite thing, not playing
We cannot guess much but for personal experience on a mid-power table a Norn deck can be good if completely based on tokens with 20 to 25 mana sources.
Nah, Monowhite just being manascrewed. Trevor's Elesh Norn deck usually performs much better than this.
@@DarkEinherjar Yeah, but it's funny since mono white is so massively underwhelming.
I wonder if Trevor plays the Uborg-Bell combo which is the strongest combo there is with Elesh.
Yup, called Trevor and Jersey Boys the moment I saw Elesh Norn in the title. :)
That looks like an almost cedh version of Korvold...
Blinky101 D That’s because it is the cedh version minus OG duals. This was pub stomping on Matt’s part.
@@gaston6671 I'm pretty sure with a tutor for Oracle or something like that, Mairsil would have won that game though, not enough interaction from Korvold aside from the pyroblast.
I like how you pronounced it "steep" in the intro, but "steppe" in the actual gameplay
Sad punt from Mike @6:00... Pretty sure they hit every Faerie Artisans trigger EXCEPT for the Dockside Extortionist, which is Brudiclad's whett dream.
I really wonder how he missed it, considering he remembered to get a Korvold token just a few seconds later.
Seeing the fun that Mairsil deck was having makes me want to build one and do fun stuff.
The cruelty of using Tree of Perdition with Mairsil to set someone's life to 4... >:)
@@DarkEinherjar And them untapping him with Hateflayer to deal someone 4 damage.
(Harry) The deck is super fun and does a lot of crazy things with some offbeat cards, I'd suggest it. People to complain that it's hard to interact with but it's a lot more complicated to play than it looks and leads to a lot of cool situations.
Personally I enjoy using Mirror Mad to mill my library or Aetherling + Nevs Disk to lock the board.
Thanks for uploading this! I’m building a Mono White deck and having actual gameplay footage of how they perform is very helpful. I’m binging all the mono white games
That mairsil deck is super cool, first time I've ever seen a deck play with it as a commander
So 2 players have inf. treasures, mana, and draw.
Here is what happens Korvold player goes to play a combo piece in response Brudiclad draws all but 1 card in his deck and uses all of his counter spells and stops the korvold player from combo winning.
Brudiclad cannot counter any of Korvold's creatures due to Rhythm of the Wild, and he could not provide enough instant speed interactions to slow Korvold down; they explain this in the post game notes.
all the korvold player would have had to do is play to stop that would be to bounce/replay dockside until he had enough mana to cast korvold then bounce/replay dockside again after that to stop the brudiclad player from drawing there deck.
@@turnipton9871 Cyclonic rift in response to casting creature targeting rhythm.
@@sw0rdhunter Ok but the Korvold player had already made infinite treasures with dockside before he recast his commander, Korvold enters Faerie artisans makes a copy. Korvold player draws his deck goes to cast a win con, in response Brudiclad player sacs treasures until he gets the cards needed to counter said wincons and also grabs cyclonic rift to temporarily remove rhythm of the wild to counter creature spells. Or brudiclad player draws nearly his entire deck in response to any creature entering after corvold enters, casts overloaded clyclonic rift and then leaves treasures up to counter any wincons from entering.
I think what I'm missing here Is why we think brudiclad has infinite draw lol he did not
As someone who has Mairsail in his arsenal it’s always exciting to see a new muddstah video in my sub box featuring him. It’s been a while since the last time that happened lol
I've heard the prossh vs korvold arguement a lot and as someone who has played both I just believe them to be different decks with different intentions
Both are still annoying as hell to play agaisnt though
@@gaigecata6666 I suppose, I play cedh pretty consistently so I don't really mind
I've owned and played both in casual and competitive settings. I think Prossh is more streamlined for a single win condition combo, but Korvold is more versatile and can utilize the same combo as well as a few other pieces for a wider range of coverage if something gets shut down. One is more about tutoring the necessary pieces and the other seems more likely to draw them out and keep up a full grip of cards.
On the debate of Korvold VS Prossh, I think it depends on what you want for your deck. Korvold gives you cards, but also relies a lot more on other cards to reach its full potential, while Prossh doesn't give you advantage in cards, but has more standalone power.
Either way, if one is the commander, the other absolutely deserves a slot in the 99, because they complement each other so well. Swap and test them to see which one you like more.
I agree Korvold 100% needs to be in the 99 in a deck with Prossh as the commander. However I don't think Prossh is good enough to play in the 99 with Korvold as the commander. The difference is with Prossh it is usually played with Food Chain combos in mind as the commander. Korvold can take advantage of this because of the token sac loop. However if Prossh isn't your commander then you don't have a loop that can generate creature mana and tokens with the same consistency. You are likely already running a Food Chain in Korvold as well so you only need Squee or the Eldrazi for the loop. Because Prossh isn't needed when he isn't the commander running him as a 6 drop value card is highly inefficient. He doesn't provide a direct win con in the same way he would if he was the commander.
I have a Food Chain Prossh deck so I have done a lot of testing both ways and this is just one of the results. I have also tested with different win cons like Worldgorger Loop and Necrotic Combo.
I also believe that Korvold is the better commander of the two. Not running Prossh gives you an extra slot for a better card. Also Korvold being one less to cast and immediately drawing you a card and being a card draw engine makes him a stronger choice.
I purposely chose to run Prossh as my commander because he is a weaker option. I play against a variety of players and I usually have the stronger decks already so playing Korvold as the commander would be to much of a power gap.
Still the best way to watch commander. I dig the chill commentary and the chill music. Keep it up!
Good lord that game was 100% unfair. The Korvold deck was CLEARLY a much higher power level then the other 3.
Yeah it was like someone brought a bazooka to a fistfight lol
Also, if Harry isn't aware of it, someone tell him that he can flicker Mairsil during the second main phase (just as the player announces they're ending the turn, hold priority before the game moves to the end step) and get an ETB in that turn's end step.
(Harry) I am aware but I often flicker on my opponents end steps before my turn so I can draw an extra card to put under Mairsil or, if I'm tight on mana, assure Mairsil lands with enough mana for another activation to save him.
BeckerAndCall how marsil activates the tap/mana hability from artifact land when it recently EtB? Have haste?
@@nicolasalexanderlopezosori5015 Thousand year elixir was in play.
This is probably among the poorest performances I've ever seen a Trevor deck have. Good ol Mono-White.. keeping us humble by sometimes just being terrible.
I have nightmares about that Marisil deck... Seems unstoppable once it gets going (unless you manage to combo off and win, of course) :P
Why is this guy playing cEDH Korvold against monowhite and Brudiclad??
That Mitch collaboration was gold!
I am a simple man, I see mairsil I click
I do not like mairsil because of his complex ability and because my friend's mairsil deck was just annoying. But i need to say WHAT A PERFORMANCE
Yep, had that moment when i feel like i want korvold, but I'll be keeping Prossh. Other than combo, Its more fun to one punch a player, then fling Prossh to another player..
Or double Prossh's power after feeding the kobolds to it for an instant kill through commander damage (hello, Xenagos).
Also, dropping Prossh on the field with Purphoros there and watching the world BURN...
Romnick Salvador Prossh is my second deck and I just love it too much to take apart. I may swap in Korvold into the 99 as others have suggested.
Prossh plus Blade of the Bloodchief is just too much fun to switch him out as my Commander
@@MTGMuddstah my Prossh deck is based on yours. More power to your channel Muddstah..
i am particulary interested in the mairsil deck. I own a mairsil deck myself and even though this deck is good, I feel like it lacks boardcontrol, ways 2 deal with agro (i run archytype of aggression so i can block all day and manasinks like geth, lord of the vault. Also, i would have tutored for arcanis to begin with. I never entomb an eatherling without a way to exile an arcanis the same or next turn. Step through is a MUST include as it finds a wizard but is also decent as a spell (very decent actually).
What was the wincon with korvold?
Cayden probably blood artist effects, a sac outlet and something that makes tokens on etb
If you look at the Tapped-out link in the description he has two infinite combos listed.
I can't begin to imagine the identity crisis that Faerie Artisan token is going through. Every turn they're a different creature. Only knowing who they are for a solid 45 seconds. Rough.
Would be nice to know what the combo is in Korvold deck. Don't have to necessarily play it out, but just tell what cards he wants from the deck.
I'll keep that in mind!
The key to make Mairsil so explosive is to get that Aetherling in exile with that cage counter. It makes Mairsil almost impossible to get rid of and lets it stockpile on abilities turn after turn.
If Harry had managed to get Nevinyrral's Disk there as well, the game would've been over for everyone else: Harry would clear the board over and over again while flickering Mairsil in response so it would survive.
I don't think Korvold is strictly better than Prossh. For a combo deck, sure because you draw more cards to get to your combo. But how do you win with Korvold outside of combo? You make him huge, but you need an engine online, with things to sac and ways to sac them, because you can only sac once per turn with only him. And if he gets removed you are back to square one. Prossh is an engine and a wincon all on himself. Pop one opponent with just a tainted strike, xenagos, bloodmist, temur battle rage, etc. Oh they removed him? Well, I get even more tokens on recast and y'all take 18 from purphoros.
This post was made by the Prossh gang.
What were korvolds win cons??? Mayhem devil perhaps??
I always get a little tingle inside when I see a mono white deck shine.
I replaced my beloved Prossh almost immediately upon release of Korvold. He's much more powerful.
Small thing but if you could use regular sized dice like mike has maybe even white ones like they use for official Mtg events so it’s easier too see instead of those teeny tiny ones it’d make it easier to keep track of what’s happening :)
I'll try and keep that in mind! Often times we just use whatever is on hand and nearby.
Great content, but it always seems like there is some distortion and other audio artifacts. Not sure where in your audio chain that may be happening, but I thought I would mention it.
I absolutely need to know what sleeves Matt and Harry are using. Great content btw!
(Harry) I use UltraPro Eclipse Sleeves on Mairsil. I think Matt uses Dragon Shields generally. #notsponsored
@@GuildMcCommunist Thanks a ton!
Doesn't Mairsil have summoning sickness? How is Harry able to tap Mairsil for effects immediately? I didn't see a haste enabler on his board.
Thousand-Year Elixir
Thousand-Year Elixir lets you activate creatures' abilities as though they had haste.
uh, big mistake not letting (or realizing maybe) mike draw his whole deck too, he could've easily stopped the Korvold player with infinite treasures and his whole deck in hand...
Matt had Rhythm of the Wild and most of his wincons were creature-based. Mike's only answer against the Rhythm was Chaos Warp, which is useless when your opponent has drawn their entire library.
Cristian Prado pretty much what has already been said. Mike’s only answer was a counter and Matt had creature based wincons that were protected by Rhythm. They discussed it but sadly you guys don’t hear the audio. Sorry!
@@MTGMuddstah He had a cyclonic rift, chaos warp (both could've bounced the rhythm so he could counter creatures, curse of the swine, reality shift) and like 7 counters in his deck, jeez did you even read Mike's decklist? I've heard your description at the end but I think the reason you said that is.so you can justify your mistakes of not seeing that huge misplay... anyway, I guess the cEDH deck was going to win either way
As a Cagmaster Mairsil player, I can confirm that he's super fun. Harthless Hidestugu with infect of lifelink, Tree of Perdition with a Hateflayer, Nev Disk with a flicker effect, the numerous ways to get infinite mana, it's great all around. Just be sure to carry protection because the rest of the table will get antsy at some point in the game.
Wouldn't mike have gotten a dockside extortionist the first time matt cast it? And then mikes resolves first giving matt even more treasures?
I think they missed that =(
I was thinking the same thing. These tokens would have been very valuable to a Brudiclad deck as well.
@@MTGMuddstah nbd! It's impossible to play a game and not miss anything
Complete pubstomp
I love Korvold. Korvold and Treasure/Gold Tokens draw so many cards. Prosh is in the 99 though.
Wouldn't Harry draw 2 cards and put 2 lands into play from pendant because of how its worded?
It looks to me like he actually does draw 2 cards, but only has one land to put in.
@@NMS127 I probably misheard Andrew then. Thought he said he drew 1 card thats all :) cheers
Did anyone else catch the fact that Mike missed the dockside extortionist, he should have also got 8 treasures
Didn't Mairsil have a win to shoot for way early on? Activate the Pack Rat, hold priority. Then activate Mirror-Mad, milling the deck and killing the normal mairsil. Exile The Scarab God when Token-Mairisil enters, then eternalize Thassa's Oracle? The scarab + oracle is in the deck list, at least.
I need to ask something with pendant of prosperity, he should be drawing 2 and putting 2 lands on the battlefield? since he activates it and he's the owner.
Yes, he should, because he owns and controls Mairsil, who has the Pendant's ability.
yeah. its a very fun card to cage with mairsil
It looks to me like he actually does draw 2 cards, but only has one land to put in.
Korvold decks are fun as hell
You mean degenerate right?
Spencer Williams Matt was playing a cEDH list in a casual game, that’s degenerate. The deck itself is not degenerate in a cEDH meta where it belongs.
Then all the more reason to call it that lol. Homie brought a gun to a knife fight then, that's degenerate.
Really? 2 decks bordering on cEDH vs monowhite and a casual Clad Morph? O.o
Mike didn't need an instant speed win con, if he drew out his library with infinite mana he would inevitably draw the counterspells he would need to shut down Matt
Seeing a lot of hate for the Mairsil deck's power, but it's looks much weaker than the Korvold decks. He had Mirror-mad Phantasm caged for at least 4 turn cycles and didn't have a win for it in his deck. The Aetherling interaction was strong, but by no means non-interactive or an outlet that gave one player the game.
I wonder what the Mairsil "flip over my library" win would have been
Kevin C Check the list. It has Thassa's Oracle.
I really thought marisil would pull off the win. nice work from korvold
That mairsil is so powerful, please send the deck tech
The decklist is in the description.
ehhh Jersey boi gang
Shouldn't Matt have at least gotten a copy of Dockside Extortionist the first time it was cast and get the treasures as well?
10:51 Mairsil was summoning sick there, right? Or am I missing something?
EDIT: And at 12:52 (the Spark Double copy being summoning sick); 13:23
I have to be missing something hakanjsnsjs
Thousand Year Elixir was on the field. It lets you activate creatures abilities that you control as if they had haste.
Just wanna see Trevor’s Elesh Norn deck succeed and not watch a stand-off till one oke combos for a win😭
that sound in the background @7:40 is kinda creepy :D
Steppe is pronounced like step fyi, not sure if intentional. Keep up the good work!
I see brudiclad i click
Felt like threat priority was ignored this game. Harry wasnt big enough threat but 3 players just kept their attention on him for way too long lol
Wait did Harry forgot that he cant tap cause his creature has no haste....????
He had Thousand-Year Elixer which allows him to use creatures tap abilities as though they had haste
I think proshh is still better because it can do the food chain combo
There was a 6 power attack to Korvold, and some no attacks from the brudiclad ... that could've removed marsil from the game.
Why didnt he acknowledge the marsil as the biggest thread on the board? Well, that's how marsil wins.
Infinite combos, although the rat pack one was spicy as hell.
Pendant of Prosperity in Mairsil is brilliant... it's so very Grixis to completely defeat the purpose of this allegedly-political card.
Korvold, glare cursed king
Why not run korvold as part of the 99
I don't get why the mairsil player didn't use the exiled mirror-mad.... It would have been the game on that turn...
Edit: I see, there's a Pack Rat/Scarab God line. But he didn't have enough mana to go for it until turn 8. He could have used Pack Rat's ability on Mike's second main and responded with Aetherling's flicker, then resolved them and used the token's Mirror-Mad ability to mill himself out. On the end step he'd get the real Mairsil back and exile Scarab God, then go to his turn and make a token Thassa's Oracle on his upkeep. But that plan could be blown out by removal on Mike's end step, since he didn't also have mana for another Pack Rat. Even if he flickered in response, he wouldn't control a Mairsil during his upkeep and would die on his draw. We don't know if he had the Force of Will at the time. And it turned out Matt did have the ability to Reap back his Pyroblast.
@@NMS127 no he wouldn't. It shuffles the commander in and you flip till you find your commander, giving you multiple options when he comes back into play, 2 mana to literally find your combo and win.
@@joshuadouglas8452 Mirror-Mad Phantasm doesn't work like you think it does in a Mairsil Deck. If you activate it's ability, you would shuffle Mairsil into the deck but since there are no cards named Mirror-Mad Phantasm in the deck (because you are searching for a card NAMED Mirror-Mad Phantasm and it is exiled), you put your entire deck in your graveyard, including Mairsil (unless you put him back in the command zone). It is a fantastic combo with Thassa's Oracle though.
cEDH? Enjoyed that game tho.
Wish mairsil was on mtgo
Korvold has been more powerful then Prosh since his release, the only thing you have to ask yourself is "is this more fun for me to play?"
Has anyone built a commander deck with a Companion yet?
Most companions have such severe deckbuilding restrictions that they're better off as commanders or in the 99.
@@DarkEinherjar do you think that Obosh or Gyruda are to restrictive to be used as the Companion?
@@crovax1375 Gyruda denies you Sol Ring, blue's usual stash of one-mana cantrip spells, Mystic Remora, Rhystic Study, all mana-free counterspells (FoW, Pact of Negation, Force of Negation and Fierce Guardianship) and important black cards such as Dark Ritual and Vampiric Tutor. It also makes your deck extremely vulnerable to a Void Winnower lockdown.
Obosh is less severe, but losing access to Signets and other 2 CMC mana rocks is still a heavy blow, especially in Rakdos.
And the universal disadvantage about companions as a whole: they give your opponents free information about what your deck DOESN'T have, so they know they don't have to play around it.
I’ve made a Tasigur deck with Gyruda as companion. I wouldn’t call it cEDH by any means but the color scheme gets a lot of good even cmc cards (plus all the clones you need to mill yourself out if you prefer that kind of stuff). It’s done well for me so far!
Boo to off color fetches.
Boo I say!
I'm sorry, Food Chain Korvold does not belong in this pod. That's some really bad form.
Once cyc rift resolved I was done watching.
Korvold is way better than Prossh.
Korvald better than Prossh!! How dare you. Prossh is the original ;)
And infinite ruins the game
second :(
First
Korvold is a deck that pisses me off just by seeing the commander
fyi, korvold is better
Korvold is such a boring, boring deck to watch people play and to play against. And when it's a cEDH version at a non-cEDH table, it just becomes even more boring and an example of pubstomping.
I wrote Marisil off as kinda bad the first time I saw him, but this was neat