Damaged Lower Intake! Plastic Threads! Jeep Wrangler 3.6 Pentastar Pt 2
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Back to Pt 1: BAD Car Karma! Botched Job Recovery! Jeep Wrangler 3.6 Pentastar • BAD Car Karma! Botched...
Today we have a Jeep Wrangler Sahara with the 3.6 Pentastar engine. The customer states engine oil is leaking and it is a large leak. We placed the jeep in service mode and began the inspection. It was found that engine oil was leaking off of the valve covers, after lifting the jeep, we found more oil on the back side of the engine and on the transmission. The intake manifold was removed and then the lower intake manifold was removed. Engine oil was found pooling up in the valley between the cylinder heads. The oil cooler assembly was then removed and inspected for leak sources. The o rings were found to be deformed and leaking engine oil. This video is part two which features the installation of a Dorman Oil Cooler Assembly as well as valve cover gaskets, PCV fittings and a replacement lower intake manifold.
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I might be an older guy who's old fashioned but that plastic crap that you're dealing with on that engine looks like an absolute nightmare. I give you a lot of credit for being so patient and doing such a great job with that
Yeah totally agree. I'd personally be more willing to pay more for a vehicle with less plastic
Stellantis muy bueno company
Why make an intake out of metal when plastic works perfectly fine? It does not need to withstand crazy temperatures or pressures, it is roughly 30% lighter than steel and like 12% lighter than aluminum while having similar strength in most areas except for ductility which isn't really something you want to have in engine components anyway...
New cars are already super expensive. Add metal/aluminum in place of all the plastic and you add 2--3times the cost for said parts. Granted the oil cooler as plastic was very silly. Just replaced my 3.2 cooler. Plastic was like $45 and the aluminum was around $200. So yea. Modern plastic is cheaper and just as good for alot of parts.
@tradde11 Its all about cost savings. Always has been when they started the whole 'Planned Obsolescence'. Nothing is made to last anymore. Now Im sure some engineer out there pitched the idea for the plastic oil cooler so they went with it. Now it took another company to make one out of aluminum so it wont happen. Its wierd anymore I know.
Forget the TROLLS Ray!, at the end of the day you go home to a BEAUTFUL WIFE and they are living in their parents basement. If I lived in Florida USA and after watching your videos, then your shop is where I'd be taking my vehicle for any repairs needed as your attention to detail when doing said repairs I know that I could trust my vehicle to work properly and not break down again in the near future. Fantastic channel, keep up the good work mate.
Watching you fight all the wires around that battery box was a comic break for me. I imagine you were thinking unkind words for the engineers all through that part.
looked like a bag of snakes!
Ray, I love what you are doing...Please keep going...
Ray, I do a lot of videoing and photography. Occasionally there is no explanation for editing glitches. When people ask me why computers crash and glitch occasionally, you need to look at what the little mothers have to deal with. They handle over 250 billion ones and zeros every second. Odds of winning the lottery is around one in 300 million. If each 1 and zero was a lottery ticket a computer would win the lottery around a thousand times each second. It's truly amazing how accurate they are considering a single bit off could crash a computer.
Ray u r a hell of a mechanic.
The edits were a little rough in the beginning of the last vid, but it smoothed out. Thanks for doing these vids Ray! You’re the best!
with as many cans of break clean you use, seems like at some point the economics would support a pump can of some sort with mineral spirits or some other appropriate solvent. With a wand your ability to get in nooks and such would improve as well.
I agree
I have seen that happening to others as well, S-Happens
I enjoyed this video! 💥👊💥
Ray if a person has feelings on this channel you are probably down to just one left. LoL
I hate it when it goes from righty tightly to righty loosey.
its funny that oils today run 5 to 10 thousand miles between changes whereas 50 years ago 2000 miles between changes was tops
REEEEEE... You did it right. :)
My ex says (we) mechanics dont have feelings. Our hearts pump transmission fluid.
Hm, Camera(s) ok, Camera and editing software settings not changed, post editing video is ok, but the TH-cam video was bad... Ah, looks and sounds like Murphy had some fun? ;-)
What's that clicking?
Not a dad joke...a bad joke
Sun spots. Mixing up the data.
Ray as a retired 71 year old mechanic I think you do a heck of a job both as editor and mechanic. I love listening to you and watching you work. You express the same work values as I was tought and I tried to teach in my shop.
I do not know how you deal with all that plastic. I am glad it was not there in the 70's.
Tell all those kerans to just sit back and learn.
I too am a 71 year old retired tech, still do a little side work, on pre 2010 and some bike work. All the special tools today $$$$$ and the new freon 1234y omygoogness.😊
Ray don’t worry about the edit of part 1 . It’s fine people just need to work with you! No ones perfect!! They just gotta be great full they have a video to watch!!!!!
yes i agree with what you wrote
Others take weeks to get their video out. Something with transitioning the cuts in and out just glitched. Or maybe to do with edit versions. Either way, you post so much interesting detail of these rebuilds that, I think we can let you off a time or two.
Senor ray all good no problema
Exactly! 👍🏼
REEEEEE!! I want my money back!! ... Oh wait. The videos are free. 🤔
😂😂😂
All my money back 😎
Lol too funny
@@squiggyg.8415 And I want to speak to the manager!
Hahahahahahahaha
Its cool Ray! Anyone who has been watching your content for long enough knows you are an exceptional mechanic so we dont expect you to be an exceptional videographer as well.
I honestly do not know how you keep up with both but kudos for doing so
Please don't apologize. No big whoop! Ray there are many KARENS out there.
.... and KARLS!
10:21 kens too.
Yes Ray , do NOT apologize, its the CONTENT as to why I watch ... so what on the hiccups in the editing.. keep up the good work Ray.
Lots of Kervins also.
it was actually horrible though, i was amazed. first time in the years ive been watching, so im not particularly bothered but i was really impressed how awful it turned out
Ray you have no need to apologise to anybody! You are entertaining and informative plus I agree with your snippets of wisdom. Regards from UK.
Who cares? They still watched it and got over it! You're a World Champion, Ray!
I think he prefers NGK over Champion… 😝
Don’t ever change no matter what people say. Been watching you since you started and very often watch videos over and over. We love your content and quirky comments so don’t take any notice of those that don’t 🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴
Those who are watching these videos to make sure that they can critique excellent videography procedures, don't even get why they're supposed to be watching this video. I watched the first section, I got all the information I needed. I've been working on cars since 1964. You do a pretty good job most of the time. If I were concerned with excellence in videography, I certainly wouldn't be watching A Automotive repair video
Most of us was having fun with him.... See my comment for example. Something weird happened, and it wouldn't be right to let the E. Murphy to get away with it. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 (Electronic Murphy) --- For the record, wouldn't care if it was potato vision with no edits - I would prefer that over the fancy stuff. the content is great by itself.
Hey Ray, my wife Jean and I Love your vid! Not sure if this is the same issue, but Casey LaDelle is having the same issue! Might not be you, just sayin'!
Who is critiquing video? WTF are you talking about? I just told Ray he did a great job. I would say that you are way out in left field, but you ain't even in the ballpark.
I am sure Ray was not talking about you but all the other people making negative comments. Unless you are being sarcastic?@@jthonn
I don't make negative comments. That is why I didn't understand, I thought you may have replied to the wrong post.@@JimSmithBrazil
When I was a young technician the older guys wouldn't show you anything or give you pointers so it really blows my mind that you are willing to show us so much
yup, the videos are fantastic. part of what gives me the confidence to do somewhat basic maintenance on my car and save a ton of money. changed spark plugs last weekend, next will be adjusting my valves at some point (AND HOPEFULLY FIX AN OIL LEAK IN THE PROCESS). if i dont have to disassemble a massive portion of the vehicle, ill do it myself. too bad changing the clutch on my civic requires dropping the front suspension.... ill pass on that.
pardon my caps lock earlier... im typing this on a TV remote 🤣
When I was a young tech, the old guys were constantly telling us to wear eye protection, ear protection, knee pads, back braces, etc. We laughed at them. Now at 61, I know they were right. My body sounds like Rice Krispies every morning when I get up. Snap, Crackle, Pop.
Video approved no gravity, perfect editing, perfect camera work, excellent quality mechanical work, click.
Gravitas at 33:12
Deducting points for no gratuitous appearance from Lauren. 😂
Remember when we used to worry about aluminum heads warping? Now it's all plastic and we don't worry any more...LOL!
Next will be heavy paper?
NOT a question of IF, but only WHEN they will self destruct
I thought it was just a hiccup. In my little world of things to worry about, Rays video ain’t on the list. No harm no foul. Keep on trucking.
Ray, I replaced at least a dozen of these 3.6 oil cooler blocks last year and discovered the reason behind this specific issue. Dumbass oil change places like Take5, Walmart, etc. are not retightening the filter housing back properly and cracking them, hence getting new ones installed and the problem repeating while they're still " fairly newish ". These filers are not sealed relative to how tight they're tightened but rather simply the o-ring itself. There is virtually no gradient between loose and tight. The instant you feel it bump hard over tight, you stop turning it. We did 2 things to prevent this from happening again and you at least took care of one of them.
1: We replaced them all with the metal version.
2: Since the housing for the filter is STILL plastic, we told all our 3.6l customers to warn whoever is changing their oil to STOP tightening the moment the housing hits hard over.
Honestly it's so easy to change the oil on these things, the people with issues.. serves them right.. It's not rocket science to change oil.. though, some vehicles you do need to be a contortionist.. 😂
@@rustbeltrobclassic2512 I'll pass that along to the seventy three year old lady down the street.
My 2010 Toyota Highlander 4cyclinder has a plastic oil filter container and the oil change place used natures lock tight so I had to break it off and buy an aluminum one
I’m I the only one that doesn’t trust an inch pound torque wrench . Transmission pan bolts - valve covers - scare me .
That's what I suspected, too. The oem plastic filter housing female threads & the plastic cap with male threads & o-ring don't give you good tactile feel when tightening, so there is a tendency to overtighten them. It doesn't take much torque to seal the cap, so less is more in this situation.
Ray, you did a fantastic job of washing down the valves with oil ... without getting any down the spark plug tubes. Great job!
I did notice the glitch in the other video but it didn't change my viewing experience. People need to realize it takes time to record these videos while working on vehicles. Plus the money you invest in cameras and computer equipment. Stop being a Karen and just enjoy the videos!
This has got to be the most complicated disassembly/assembly automotive videos I have ever seen. Way to go Rainman!
Dedication and genuine approach make your channel a joy. Congrats!
Least obvious bot.
Jeep at one time produced one of the best 3.0 liter motors ever made. Their straight 6. That thing was bullet proof. Instead of going with a proven winner they gave us Pentajunk.
I looked into Amsoil for my 2019 VW Arteon (purchased new) but according to the Amsoil web site, their oil does not meet the VW spec required. I'm using Motul 5w/40 in it now. I used Mobil1 0w/40 in my 2011 Saab NG9-5T4 (purchased new) with no issues after 150K miles. I also had a 1986 Saab 900 (purchased new) for 15 years of ownership and used Castrol GTX 10w/30 standard motor oil and changed it every 2K miles. At the 150K mileage mark when they adjust the cam clearances, the engine looked brand new with zero sludge anywhere. Another great video Ray!
Respectfully, and I am not affiliated with Amsoil, but I am a VW owner. Amsoil European meets and/or exceeds the VW "502.00" and "504.00" specs that are listed in the manual as required. I am using Amsoil European in mine (a Taos). I don't agree with "extended interval" oil changes though, which is part of those specs. I am still going to change the oil and filter between 3k-5k. I will be using that Rainman Ray discount. Thanks for that Ray!
Someone very unskilled was working on that vehicle. No excuse for any of those poorly done items. People... don't touch an engine if you have no idea what you are doing. Great Video!
Ahhhh the old plastic fantastic Pentastar Mechanic stay busy job! I think we did 4 of these the past month at our shop. Keep it up Chrysler, Fiat, or Stellantis whoever it is now. ;)
Good save on that Lower intake Ray!
It’s ok! Thank you for taking the time to make these videos!! Love watching them
Project Farm did a test with oils and the Kirkland brand did very well in his testing. His testing may be different than your testing, but I do like the way he tests stuff.
Stuff happens. It was no big deal. Keep up the good work.
No need to apologize Ray, always a pleasure to be amazed by your knowledge, the editing is just collateral damage 😂😂, but always a good video. Keep up the good work
Project Farm testing shows Amsoil is the best oil made. I've used it for years along with Penzoil full synth. Nothing wrong with sponsoring the best Ray!!! Well done!!!
I saw those project farm videos, I use the Pennzoil ultra platinum, it's easier to get by me than amsoil.
I think Project Farm is very good at testing
😂😂 Your editing is back to normal😂😂 You are 100% correct in saying teflon tape is a sealant! Only a moron would call it a lubricant! Ask any real plumber or just look it up. There are a few videos on the oil cooler and your's is the best one I've seen and very informative! Keep up the great work!
Teflon is also used as a lubricant in multiple ways. Hell, it’s used as seal backup in hydraulic systems. Very versatile as a solid and additive.
@@gimmeaford9454 Teflon definitely can be used as a lubricant. But teflon "tape" is a sealant.
On the fuel line connector, you forgot to put back that blue locking clip :) otherwise great video!
Wheres wife unit ray??? Her mandatory video appearence didnt happen...reeeeee! Lol
It is as though people have forgotten that we are all human. If I lived in Florida you’d be my mechanic hands down. Keep up the great work.
I’m not a Jeep guy but do appreciate a Jeep for what it is. That being said, what the heck were they thinking with that battery box/fuse box design. Everything on the passenger side of the engine is effectively blocked and the wires and connectors on the bottom of the fuse box are still critter bait.
Well RAY WERE ALL BACK TO SEE YOU FINNISH THE JOB😅LIKE YOU NEW WE WOULD ,HAVE A GREAT DAY 😅
Thank you for doing this Jeep, I have been having so many issues with mine and watching your video gave me an idea how to fix it.
"It'll be fine". That's what the last repairman of that vehicle said!
Mr Ray. Ya gotta put a stop to these ridiculous extended and pointless rants. From right about the 1:00:00 mark, you made absolutely zero sense about choice of lubricant. As a very long time AMSOIL Dealer, since 1976 in fact, all you pretty much emphasized was people can put into their vehicles anything they want. But your examples of "this product" may work better under this or that application or location was pure nonsense. You need to reel it in, my good man, on these rants. Better yet. I would suggest you more sooner than later turn off commenting on your channel if you're gonna break into these dissertations because viewers don't agree with you or perpetually "get your goat."
Good luck Ray!
May I say, this was a great adventure. Now, if anything can be said that’s truly positive, this 2016 “marvel” of a Jeep, most certainly not from Mung Mountain, is the one you should consider for a new toy. That wreak of a vehicle upon which you plan to waste your precious time, ain’t worth the sweat on your brow. Fold your cards on that jalopy and buy the blue. More money in the pocket and quality time with the family. Just sayin’.🙃
Been using Amsoil for decades… Nothing but fantastic results. Oil analysis reports back it up too!
I'm such a shade tree mechanic after watching you working......
One day tho...you will find yourself at the point where you say:
"I give up, it's time to retire and start enjoying life again."
By that time sir, your children will be all grown up....your wife suddenly gets more purdy..lol
and you will still be doing stuff that most girls cannot do....and feel like a servant to her. haha
al n kat
Okay - I know I'm not the only one who should remember this. Didn't Ray recently do this same exact kind of leaking oil cooler repair on a different Pentastar engine valley? It was this exact same process - in fact the original part they sent him was the wrong part packaged in the right box (it was the non-upgraded version of the cooler / oil filter). Does Ray remember that? It wasn't all that long ago.
Five commercials per break? TH-cam is making it really easy to permanently say goodbye. 😒..... anybody else here that clicking? Like an old time loose spark plug boot.
I have found it useful when dealing with the course thread into the plastic components to turn the fastener CCW slowly until in "drops in". No more cross-threading. Take care.
I think a OIL CATCH CAN is needed for that engine. The EGR is over active. Intake runners coated in oil. Or is that from leaking intake gasket?
Interesting? I watched it on TH-cam yesterday morning and it was fine. Something must have happened to corrupt the upload later on after I watched it, I would guess?
You talk funny when you start working really fast
YOU ARE FRICKEN AWESOME RAY. GREAT WORK. THANK YOU
I think it's awesome how you went into your parts surplus to get the owner that intake. Most mechanics would want to charge an arm and a leg to replace it. You're one of the few good guys out there.
Plastic Jeeps used to be pink and were driven by little girls. I think I'll keep fixing my Cj7.
Most oils are very good, just change oil every 3000 miles using non synthetic, 5000 miles with synthetic. What price do you wish to spend 😅
Great videos we watch you in Canada too. Chrysler should stop using planned obsolesces concept and use proper metal parts in the engine like other manufacturer to get their engine reliability at par with other manufacturer brands. Greed for profit push Chryslers engineers to cheap out at the expense of us the customers
Ray don’t worry about the trolls. They should have to prove themselves with their certifications to be experts on whatever they claim. lol not a TH-cam expert on everything in the world. You know the ones who are in the basement on the internet with whatever their moms bought them.😂
I don’t think anybody thought you did it on purpose, we were just hoping it wasn’t something new With TH-cam or a camera
You are not the only one having that issue on TH-cam.
I've seen it quite a few times on various videos over the past week or so. Another thing I've been having is a video getting 10-20 seconds in and freezing. Have to completely restart in most cases. And I'm on Premium!
We all understand vut is pruhblem, Ray. We still love your channel
Locktite makes some stuff called PST, (pipe sealant with teflon). It works awesome, Ive used it since the 70s on hydraulic pipe threaded fittings. Just a tiny dab is all it takes. A tube for you would last you years. Smells weird, and it's like the "tin man" effect similar to never seeze, but after the first couple times you plan for it. Plus you can always get the fitting out years later.
i have to apologize to you ray, and i am sorry i thought the editing issue was my internet provider as we were getting severe t-storms and not the video quality. as a tech guy myself would never blame you for the edits. am truly sorry for assuming that the problems were you, you do a heck of a great job. learned alot from you
I used that extra time between edits to vacuum my downstairs and made a pot of gumbo. 🤣
JK its all good.
REEEEEEE....Mobil 1 additive package is below average, you are right.
Screw the people that complain, I enjoy all your videos and been watching your videos for 2 years plus your off duty channel and wife units. Thank You for hours and hours of great video and also thank your wife unit for all her efforts to take care of the business end
I love your videos Ray.🥰
Don't sweat the REEEEEE's!!!!! you do a great job and are very knowledgeable!
You mean I have to watch this one again!? Fine. I’ll watch it again!😊
Really appreciate the work you do. Don't let anyone get you down. Yes, you do make some brief errors but you always take care of them... usually with the "I love my job so much i do it twice!!" Thanks for fixing your editing from yesterday!! This one was much better!! Keep up the good work!!
What I think they changed the plastic one only and they (transfer)the cooler from the old ones to the new ones…
A lot of plastic in that engine...
Ray showin us how to do good work on a shit engine nice work Ray and screw the trolls we know you do great work all the time
Gremlins are in everything, just waiting to jump out at ya ! 🤣🤣🤣🤙🏼
Some people need a thicker skin. You're getting a free education and entertainment.
Ray's videos where we always learn something new all the time awesome video thank you Ray
Morning Ray, once again started my day watching your videos, they are the best on TH-cam. Thanks again for sharing.
Did I miss the obligatory Wife Unit appearance?!
Ray Ray don't worry about trolls they're not a great mechanic like you so they ought to keep their opinions to Sal's I wish you were working on my truck Dodge ram 1500 this is Jose from say hi to the wife unit
1:04:22 we don't mean to hurt your feeling(s) sorry Ray 🇨🇦 😂
Troll’s are the price of doing business.🤷♂️
Any time you pull the valve covers on these 3.6 Pentastar you need to check the oil galley plugs below each cam phaser. They are 13mm and they are guaranteed to be loose. I red Loctite them back in. That is the root cause of the rocker arm failing. THe oil pressure that is supposed to go to cam is bleeding off back to pan through these loose galley plugs. They have been known to fall out.
It certainly be TH-cam that schould apoligize
I appreciate the content I do not watch for the Edits I watch for the content. Thank you Ray.
Chrysler used way too much plastic in this engine design.
The edit wasn’t that bad. Though the skill set was on par and above
Yesterday's video was fine. No apology necessary.
You are doing 10 different things people chill out.
Kind of weird, I didn't notice anything with yesterdays video.