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How do stop motion puppets stand up?
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Gimberly uses kamone416's toon shader, which you can find here:
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Honestly stop motion animators are a different breed and deserve our respect
I am a breed of different
@@floor867Come back to me when you move a clay puppet around for months while taking pictures to make a couple minutes of animation
@@shadowwolf9823he isn’t a different breed, he’s a breed of different
@ZilchZero I immensely respect the effort it takes for stop motion animation. They are truly a different breed, because of the months for videos to be made and years of work it takes to make full stop motion movies. The dedication it takes to make that is incredible, and because you can't waste that much time on the equivalent of the emoji movie, Everything stop motion is a work of art. From early special effects in King Kong, and Jason and the Arginauts, to Wallace and Gromit, to Paranorman, Coraline, I don't think there's a single bad stop motion movie
Nice pfp
This confirms that Gimberly has no nervous system. She had a bolt, a magnet, and a pin put through her foot and she didn’t even flinch. Thank you for coming to my TED Talk
What a marvelous and miraculous discovery... you, sir, are a genius.
Give this person a round of applause
gimberly lore 💥⁉️
Gimberly seems to be a digital Entity
Or she just has really tiny feet and the shoes are 30 sizes too big
To be fair, the bolts method was GENIUS for the deer bc the divots looked like hoof-prints!
This whole time I thought the hoof-prints were intentionally done!
@@aliyahpulido953Yes but also no.
agreed
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That's what i always thought it was 🤣😅
This video actually helped me learn how to animate reliable walk cycles. Don’t ask me how. But it did. So thanks! Even though that wasn’t the goal. It still taught me a new skill!
I’m gonna ask how
im also gonna ask how
Ima have to ask now too
I'm not gonna ask how, cuz I can relate to that
Honestly I always thought that those marks were Rudolph’s hoofprints. Like I was impressed at the attention to detail in giving the characters footprints lol
They probably banked on that for if people noticed the holes.
LMAO SAME
same ☠☠☠☠☠
Yes I totally agree
Oh, same here!
Gimberly is more horrifying now because she literally didn't mind the torture her foot went through
That’s torture alright
Member moment
@@JumpingBoredom
What if she has small feet and big shoes?
@@Miles4Daze that's a good theory Miles
As a kid. (& until just now, because I haven’t thought of it since)
I thought those were hoof prints in the Rudolph movie.
I remember thinking
“Wow they bothered to make slight marks for hoof prints wherever the reindeer walk”
Interesting
I LOVE when I learn something new and informative
about something I haven’t thought of
since when I did/saw/heard/learned it a long time ago!
i respect stop motion so much
Have you watched Wallace and gromit, watch all of them, then come back, they’re great
“Have you ever wonde-“
“No.”
*proceeds to stay and watch the entire video*
Me with almost every explanation video, i've stopped registering the "Have you ever wondered-" part long ago and acquiesced to the viewer retention reigns.
so true bestie
Me
Damn, thats a good point. I've never wondered about most of the things these sorts of videos explain. Hmm ... Still enjoyable to watch though. Most of they time, anyway.
This is so me when i watch " Have you wondered how stop motion puppets standup?"
Love the behind the scenes explanation from someone who’s clearly passionate about the animation industry, great video Doodley!
IT HAS BEEN ONE YEAR SINCE HE RELEASED A SHORT
@@bene6969what ?
@@seva7500 check his other shorts' dates
The nails just look like footprints so its pretty good
never thought i would be bricked over a puppet
NAHHHH
can't blame you though...
as a kid i always thought that stop motion worked like computer generated movies but i was surprised to found out that it all made by moving small puppets by hands
I thought they had to make different puppets every time the characters limbs move
Same. Thought they'd get irl 3d pics n animate them.
Same
HOW
The style of films like Monster House seems like stop-motion animation, despite the usage of motion capture of real actors on wire-frame sets. (Literally, they built props and set pieces out of wire so that there wouldn't be any interference with the motion tracking technology. With real props it helped the actors feel grounded in reality.
Plus, that style avoided the 'uncanny valley' problem that makes The Polar Express look weird and dated.
If you're here to ask why the floor couldn't just be metal:
Animating small shifts in the feet would be difficult. You would drastically alter your puppet's pose when removing the foot and wouldn't be able to lift the foot slightly as you very often need. That issue is solved with...a second magnet. Or screws!
Also, it would only work for flat sets. Have you ever tried warping metal? Not easy, nor cheap!
Ok
I always thought the figurines had like a wire-frame inside of them, and it just kept the figure upright at all times and no matter how you moved it, it would keep the same center of gravity. I dont know where i got this idea from...
@@TheMegaGamingWizardthat works but not for stopmotion
dude i loved this video sm thanks for making it
@@nighttimexzzz yeah kind of figured...
Hot take: I would love if movies included the option of seeing the animators moving the puppets in the background, as shown in this video throughout the movie.
It's such a cool visual effect and showcases the effort the artists went through.
Wow, that's a really innovative solution for stop motion animation! Love the creativity and resourcefulness. So interesting to see the behind-the-scenes process.
I didn't know you were here and with 7 likes and no replys let me fix that😊
I think the drill method really works for that scene with Rudolph. It makes the cave look more natural with the uneven floor.
as a stop motion animator who doesnt have all the expensive stuff big companies do, i usually use sticky tack or puddy on the bottom of the feet. it's not the most reliable but it does what it needs to
Same it incredibly useful... at least until the model falls over due to weak joints.
@@novaeye6081yeah its like helpful and also super annoying to deal with
Praise the Tac.
Stop motion animators are another form of human, they are straight crazy to be moving a clay person around for months at a time to make a single scene
Stop motion animators have a level of patience I couldn’t dream to obtain
Extra method: Use dark magic to make them move
omg i use that all the time when im bored but i cant show it to the public because ill be asked for a behind the scenes.
Not stop-motion anymore.
Stop-motion animators win again
gravity falls reference???
to anyone shocked gimberly isnt feeling pain, her brain is probably lagging from the render hogging up memory
lmao
if you were my teacher i would pay attention in every class your voice is soothing and you make everything easy to understand
I love Rankin & Bass. I wish they continued making stop motion. Those films made my Christmas childhood
Oh, I had actually wondered this before. I knew the armature arm exists, but they obviously couldn't use such a device in the 80's or 80's. Good to know.
It was still technically possible, just a heck of a lot more work to create mattes.
"80s or 80s" LMAO FIX UR SPELLING 😂
@@BandLBestiebros I'm not even sure what I was writing about since it was seven months ago, but even then, I can tell by context I meant "80's or 90's".
Anyway, I'm not fixing it lol, they can just read this response or use their heads a little.
Fourth is having bottom heavy and strong legs usually workable if the character doesn't need to lift their feet to move.
Sonic David makes stop motion skits with Sonic toys, and he uses straight up play-doh to keep his models in pose!!!
The marks for Rudolph are actually genius, helps with posing , but also the illusion of snowprints
He teaches and entertains. Amazing.
Lovely explanation! Can't wait for more short content from you
I think the one with the holes makes it look like they're leaving footprints behind in the snow, so it works quite well for Rudolph.
One of the most underappreciated art forms, them and puppeteers
I don't even do animations but your videos are always so calm and intertaining to watch
60 frames per second. You’re on thin ice with half of the animation community, lol
something wrong with 60FPS?
@@Zephyer6581not that theres something wrong with it for video games or movies and stuff but animation as a medium is done at 24fps typically, and when an animation is interpolated up to 60fps for example, you lose a LOT of impact that the original animators spent so much time and effort getting exactly right at 24fps, only for the pace to be ruined because the AI doesnt know about the principles of animation or what exactly it is interpolating
@@Zephyer6581 you usually won't see a lot of 60 fps except in camera made movies
in animation (and stop motion) you need to draw/make each frame so you usually will do 24 fps 12 fps or 7 fps
why bruh
@@Zephyer6581 sometimes, people use AI to force a 24 frame per second animation into a 60 frame per second animation. This usually makes the animation sloppy and gross as AI tends to do. Some people think that animation is meant to be done in 24 and below, making 60 a second animation a very tedious tight rope. I hope this helps clarify, no hate was intended here
I only care about this dude's INSANE smooth animation!
Stop frame is my favourite film form. It's incredible and relies purely on humans and creativity
Just started my minor study stopmotion, so for sure saving this
I personally love to see little human details, like pins in the feet or marks on the floor. Looks so cute ^.^
This animation is SO GOOD
Can you draw doodley and gimberly enjoying some nice fried eggs together :)
Thanks!! No promises, but eggs and bacon is my favorite breakfast so I might be able to make it work if I can find a good angle for a short.
There is one other method that I tried once, but it only works with static scenes and its really tedious. First, take a picture without the puppets, then animate the puppets using the rods (like the VFX green ones). After you are done, use photoshop. The first picture with no characters as background layer, the picture with characters as top layer, than cut out any parts with rods from the top picture, the background layer will fill the gaps you've just made. Repeat for every frame :)
It's good to take multiple background pictures if using a rig, because even in an ideal scenario, lighting often changes throughout a scene. Fortunately if you're programming a camera rig, you can replicate its movement to have an editing pass.
amazing production quality on this short!
I think being able to see the pins or left behind marks from holes adds to the magic of stop motion. Maybe just me but it kind of solidifies the idea of it being all hand done.
I have a really high respect towards the people who do stop motion animation. Not only do they need to 24 different adjustments for 1 second of screen time, they also try to make it as natural as possible and take into account the amatomy of the characters they're animating. It's a tedious process and I can't even begin to comprehend how much patience they have in doing this medium of animation. It's just astonishing!
Oh my god he just made the holes in Gimberley legs😢😢😢💀💀💀
i always thot those were foot prints
I didn’t even realize that about Rankin Bass! That’s so cool!
Your animation is SMOOTH like a SMOOTHY
nuts? DEEZ NU- Ahem, sorry for that 💀
First comment that did this even though you technically didn’t it still kinda counts
Day 1 of asking for Gimberly doing a 360 no-scope
Thats cool i like stop motion animations and coraline is my favorite movie😮😊
Stop motion was always my favorite type of animation as a kid
These are pretty good techniques
I literally binged watched all Laika movies within 2 days ago. Lol
Stop motion is so cool
Gimberly is a living 3d model. It is a property of 3d model lifeforms that they can intersect with other 3d models without causing harm. In fact, intersecting is their natural state. It takes extra work to implement collision.
That loop was smoooth!!
Could you make a doodley back flip?
the pins add such a sweet detail just like the holes
stop motion movies are insane. JUST INSANE. It takes a normal person 2 hours or so to make a 1 minute short animation of like someone waving...
"By putting nuts in the characters shoe" time to check the comments 😑
Same
Mom there’s no time, I must help support a great creator. Who? His name is doodley and he just dropped a new TH-cam short
Bro whoever makes stop motion movies must be incredibly patient and talented
We honestly need more stop motion its a beautiful art
Am I the only one who simps over Gimberl-
Not at all
i respect anyone that dose clay animations or stop motion i know they are the same thing but still clay animation is those types of hobbies or jobs that are just interesting and a pain to do
I like how your second Rankin/Bass clip reminds me of how so many of their characters like to pirouette so often, which now makes sense knowing about the pin method: Once you've got one foot nailed down, it's easy to just keep pivoting the body around it! No worries about slipping out of place!
I feel like bolts works well for the Rudolph movie, because it looks like hoof prints in the snow!
Stop motion is dedication and commitment which I don’t have
Respekt to all Stop Motion Film/Series Producer
Im just glad people still Claymate
Coraline was so good that when people talk about stop motion animation it is one of the first things to come in mind.
Stop motion movies are probably my favorite movies 🍿
"If it's good enough for rank and bass, then whos to complain?" Hes so right dude.
The drill method is REALLY clever with Rudolph. It looks like footprints! Or hoofprints.
I used to be a stop motion animator as a kid. I lost the passion when my parents split.
Stop motion is very beautiful
It amazes me how much time is involved in the making of these movies.
Holy shit, this unlocked a memory of spotting those pins in the feet watching christmas specials as a kid and wonedering about them
I've been doing stop motion for so many years and I haven't even heard of the pin tie-downs before! I've gotta try that the next chance I get. I love practical effects and this is going to save me a lot of money at the hardware store if I don't need plywood for my sets or knurled nuts for my stop motion puppet feet
Dude that first method is nuts
It makes sense for deer walking in the snow to leave markings. Just call them footprints and there's nothing to worry about.
Plus, broadcast television was lower resolution and particularly staticy for channels on the UHF dial (channels higher than 13 were on a separate dial, kids). Flaws like those pins and even fingerprints are harder to see on the old TV's of yesterday.
Dude your animation is so well done 👍
I actually really enjoyed seeing the marks behind Rudolf and Dancer... Prancer?... Rudolf and his dad because it gave the impression they had weight and were affecting their surroundings.
Pins also work on thicker cork. And with magnets, I would try sandpaper soles. Or tiny spikes. Sometimes, glass plates can be used for support, too. Holes can be plugged or covered. There's time.
And the easiest solution: don't show the feet.
honestly, the pins would make a lot of sense in coraline as a thematic thing
I knew him as the Boogieman until literally today. I have been taking frequent breaks since I’ve only been watching this episode between major tasks all day
After watching Mad God recently my respect and curiosity for stop motion has gone through the roof. Yes Coraline and Wallace and Grommet were also moments of respect but damn no one talks abt Mad God
Stop.motiom is hands down my favorite animation. True art.
Your little model is so cute
First off I’m simply impressed that someone has to sit there for hours just to get 3 minutes of a scene right. U literally have to take a picture of every single movement. Slight move *snap. Slight move *snap. Bro that takes hours to get one full movement. And the movies and shows be coming out amazing. I Gotta give them props for that
Your 2d animation is so smooth. Absolutely love it
its 3d tho
His little avatar is a 3D model that has an outline that’s based on the camera’s position, he’s explained it a few times if you want to learn more
Lovely presentation! I’ve never actually animated a character with magnets inside the feet and I don’t know anywhere where this happens- Instead, the feet are made from steel, as is the set’s base and the very strong neodymium magnets are used underneath. Tie downs are best, with magnets a close second. Pins are cheap and best for budget work. The feet have been made with either balsa wood, or something called Plastazote- a very dense foam you can carve like wood. The pins are pressed down through the foot into a set made from Carpet underlay that is made from a kind of dense paper fibre- you can get this from any DIY store, and cover it with Canvas.
Thanks for the info and kind words! For my videos I typically try to keep things as simple as possible as they're meant for non-animators and laymen, but I'll also admit I don't know exact particulars as much of this is based on stop motion I did in college and what I've talked with friends in the stop motion industry -- I mainly worked with screw tie-downs, and any puppets I saw or ever worked with had foam/clay feet with screw or magnet tie-down inserts. Steel ain't exactly cheap and moldable!
It worked in Rudolph because it looked like footprints in the snow
i remember a documentary on these stop motions saying that most of them were made shooting like four seconds of film a day. Sh*t is wild
The Rudolph one looks like the ground is actually a sheet of clay. The Rudolph figures are probably dried out more than the sheet so it won’t melt into the ground
I did a stop motion project for my senior year in a graphic design class, I chose to use both legos and free standing characters. The legos were easy because they were able to snap into the ground and stand on their own, but my regular characters (like a GI Joe action figure or a Sentinel 1 figure) required a little bit of imagination using glue, the set was rough and not the most perfect (its highschool after all and I got 3 weeks to make the 2 minute long video). If only I had seen this video prior to that I probably wouldve been set to make it a little better
I love stop motion, would have loved to just move these characters around and watch them come to life
So cool! Imagine what the original 1954 GOJIRA film would look like if it was in stop motion. This was the original plan for the first Japanese Godzilla film since it was inspired by King Kong and the Beast from 20,000 Fathoms. However it was too expensive for Japan because of the market crash and World War II.
I have a class on stop motion puppet making rn, and we are using the first method. Our armature is very, very basic, with twisted copper wire and block-ins made with epoxy clay. The nut piece is lightly screwed on a bolt, so the clay doesn’t stick to the inside and should be as close to the wire as possible. Needs constant supervision so it doesn’t droop in unwanted directions. Two in the middle of the foot, one for the middle of the "ribcage" and one for the middle of the hip. We solder the limbs to the body as well as the fingers to the palm with a few drops of Krazy Glue and covering it with sodium bicarbonate on both sides like you would cover a piece of meat with egg to then sprinkle crushed crumbs or similar to cook. It dries fast and is very reliable as long as you're not violently moving the limbs.
The next step is to cover everything with sculptor's plasticine or Sculpey. This is to make the "skin" and give the puppet the volume the character reference has. We're currently working on making a plaster mold to pour latex or similar in the future for the second part of this class.
Opened my eyes to the magic that goes behind puppet making, something that really makes you appreciate the craftsmanship behind them because they have to last for the entire production. No matter how sturdy they are, all will eventually break or become unusable.
This is pretty much the method I've done as well, with a wire armature. Though I used soft foam for the body instead of clay, which is covered in bandages and then painted in latex for skin, probably what you are doing in the second part of your class. No soldering or clay on my end, though, which is interesting -- just two part epoxy.
It does make you respect a lot of what goes into stop motion, since all those fabrication steps are invisible to the audience.
@doodley3d This is super interesting! If you'd like, I can reply to you again with an update once the next part happens. Thank you very much for the informative shorts you produce. It helps with making 3D seem less scary, plus spreads the word on not so well known info.
Sure! And thanks! I really try to make the kinds of videos I wanted when I was starting out. Plus I just think a lot of animation fans are fascinated by the process even if they don't animate.
“Bolt their feet down by putting nuts in the character’s shoes