The North Mersey Branch line was scheduled to be a part of Merseyrail with a few stations on it, one named _Giro,_ at the Giro bank complex. Sefton Council have continually lobbied for its reopening. About one third of Merseyrail was cancelled by Thatcher forty years ago - in the meantime London has had: the DLR, Overground, Underground extensions, Thameslink, Crossrail, etc. Miles and miles of trackbed and tunnels are awaiting trains in the Liverpool City Region, with even an underground burrowing junction and header tunnels built awaiting connection to the network, south of Central underground station. We are building HS2, but Liverpool is still waiting for tracks and trains. The North Mersey Branch line is reserved for reuse, with Merseytravel having long term aspirations for its use. It was used until recently by slow moving maintenance trains, hence why the tracks are still in place. It was once electrified 3rd rail, with Liverpool Overhead trains reaching Aintree.
While I understand your comment we have to be grateful of what we have, we have a great rail network here in Liverpool, cities like Leeds are very isolated and nowhere near as good as us.
@@sloth-gaming Grateteful for what we have? So we should stand there cap in hand that Boris Trump has not ripped it all up? The city's rail infrastructure is extensive with some of the oldest, and unique, historical railway infrastructure in the world. All we want is to have what was promised, *and started,* 40 odd years ago. To give the city region the metro it deserves. We have to fight to get it all reused.
@@flippop101 If the underground burrowing junction south of Central station was flyovers on the surface, it would have been used decades ago because people can see it. Insisting it be used. The expensive to build junction, laying there unused, is out of sight, so out of mind. The city needs the junction connected to the Wapping tunnel ASAP. It connect the eastern section of the city to the central underground section. It creates an east- west _crossrail,_ say from Wigan to West Kirkby, if the stock interchange tunnel between Central and James St is used for passenger trains. The Liverpool to Wigan line was supposed to be on Merseyrail, but it was not electrified. It was electrified with wires in 2015. It never transfered to Merseyrail. Now the new Class 777 trains can use wires, there is no plan to transfer the line to Merseyrail, because the trains cannot easily get to the maintenance depot at Kirkdale.
@@johnburns4017 no. What I'm saying is that in the North especially there are areas with little to no local commuter rail, like I said with Leeds. Liverpool has a fairly reliable commuter rail network for UK standards with pre coving trains per 15 minutes, there's plans to extend the network and there already building new station's the new trains will be out this year (if they can pull there fingers out) what was exactly promised 40 years ago? Because alot of liverpools rail that closed just wasn't economically viable
Thank YOU very much; As a kid growing up on Isle of Wight, I always used to sing thank u very much for the "entry" iron. Now I know & what's in an accent !
Really enjoyed the video, it's just a shame you didn't go and actually show the junction. Are the points for the branch still in place or has it been taken up? I looking forward to another explore.
Until 1953 that section was electrified and there was an alternative Liverpool to Ormskirk route. Also at Aintree Central it connected with a Cheshire lines route to Southport Lord Street station with trains from Liverpool and Manchester.
Just make my morning coffee, turned on the lap top and what was waiting just for me---a new "Bee Here Now" video. When were the sleepers changed from wood to concrete? What a great day for a adventure, nothing like a long walk on a perfect day. Your videos are so enjoyable to watch, the way you look around while you narrate to the camera makes it feel like were walking around with you. Happy three year youtube anniversary.... Stay strong, Stay safe.
I’ve walked some of the closed lines in the Stoke area where the track is still there. Fighting your way through the undergrowth but with the track still there to guide you along the correct route.
Loved watching this . We used to walk ‘the raller’ daily on our way to school (St Wilfrids) which is no longer there. I remember being able to see down the entire length of the black bridge - st Wilfrids stretch. On rare occasions a Diesel engine would appear in the distance, causing a group of boys to scramble to find a way off the raller to avoid the mythical ‘raller police’ 🤣. Very happy days
Them Mythical police exist, I was caught and brought into offices at Lime Street (transport police) and cautioned and told if I was caught again I'd be fined.
Mad me watching this. Five or more years ago when I was a builder we was asked to do a job in a back garden in Aintree. My boss asked the customer for the planning. Customer didn't think it was needed. Customer applied for planning permission and got it. Boss checked the deeds on the land and ten foot of his garden goes over the line, I can't remember the full stipulation but anything he did in the ten foot was at risk of being demolished in the future for the line. I just looked on google maps for the job, was at Roseworth ave and the line runs through seventeen gardens. At the back of the gardens there's a five foot gap all the way along.
Not far from me where you ended, you could have carried on a little bit to Aintree station and finished with a view of Aintree Racecourse. Hopped over the fence and got the train home.👍
How rare to find an abandoned line with intact rails! Interesting to see check rails here and there (those third rails, installed to keep the flanges on track). Particularly liked you earth 3D exposition intro. 😉
Very enoyable, just one slight criticism - If you could have named the roads which used those viaducts would have helped. As a local I could have had a better idea of the location. Nontheless well done. I have subscibed. :)
Look at that, all that struggling through all that undergrowth in all that sun and not a drop of sweat in sight! If I tried it I would be lucky if I could get a few hundred yards without my head absolutely EXPLODING like versuvius with absolutely APPALLING profuse sweat, and that's what happened when I tried to cross the short viaduct at Clifton some years ago.
And now Peel ports want to build a dual carriageway from near the end of the M57, across Rimrose Valley Park, past local housing causing so much upheaval and pollution, why don't they at least reinstate some of these lines to get into the docks?
You could see my house from the first Viaduct. I used to use the track to get home from school and in recent years, it's been used as an ambush for the unsuspecting, notably for the spate of 'Buttock shootings' a few years back. You would have to get me very very high to make me want to walk any part of that route. Fair play to you young man. Top work Fella.
You like your impenetrable jungle don't you! I suppose the fact it's been reclaimed by nature makes it more interesting - a closed railway line without trees growing on it could well be an open line.
I needed to know why don’t dig a tunnel and do an extension for the main line Train so that they could extend the unused abandoned underground stations. Why couldn’t they use the part D78 Stock train doors on the sides and also restructure the front face of the A60 and A62 stock and that includes the class 313, class 314 and class 315 remix and make them all together and also redesign them an overhead line and also make them into six cars per units and also having three Disabled Toilets on that six cars per units A60 and A62 stock trains and also convert the A60 and A62 stock trains into a Scania N112, Volvo TD102KF, Volvo D10M, Volvo B10M, Gardner 6LXB, Gardner 6LXC and Gardner 8LXB Diesel Engines and also put the Loud 7-Speed Voith Gearboxes even Loud 8-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Gearboxes in the A60 and A62 stock, class 313, class 314, and class 315 and also modernise the A60 and A62 stock and make it into an 11 car per unit so it could have fewer doors, more tables, computers and mobile phone chargers. A Stock Trains and also having 8 Disabled Toilets on those A stock trains. why couldn’t we refurbish and modernise the waterloo and city line Triple-Track train tunnel and make it bigger and extend it to the bank station, making it into a Triple-Track Railway Line so those 4 European countries such as Germany, Italy, Poland And Sweden to convert the waterloo and city line Triple-Track Train tunnel into a High-Speed train? The Third Euro tunnel Triple-Track Train line to make it 11 times better for passengers so they could go from A to B. then put the modernised 11 car per unit A Stock and put them on a bigger modernised waterloo and city line Triple-Track train tunnel so it could go to bank station to those 4 European countries such as Germany, Italy, Poland And Sweden. The modernised refurbished 11 cars per unit A stock could be a High Speed The Third Triple-Track Euro Tunnel Train So it is promising and 37 times a lot more possible to do this kind of project that is OK for London Germany, Italy, Poland And Sweden. oh by the way, could they also tunnel the Triple-Track Railway Line so it will stop from Buckinghamshire, Hertfordshire and Essex so that the Passengers will go to Germany, Italy, Poland and Sweden and also extend the Triple-Track Railway Line from Bank to Buckinghamshire, Hertfordshire and Essex Stations so that more people from there could go to Germany, Italy, Poland And Sweden Easily. Why couldn't they extend the Piccadilly line and also build brand-new underground train stations so it could go even further right up to Clapton, Wood Street and also make another brand new tunnel train station in Chingford could they extend the DLR. All of the classes 150, 155, 154, 117, 114, 105, and 106, will be replaced by all of the Scania N112, Volvo TD102KF, Volvo D10M, Volvo B10M, Gardner 6LXB, Gardner 6LXC and Gardner 8LXB Diesel Six carriages three disabled toilets are air conditioning trains including Highams Park for extended roots which is the Piccadilly line and the DLR trains. Could you also convert all of the 1973 stock trains into an air-conditioned maximum speed 78 km/hours (48 MPH) re-refurbished and make it into a 8 cars per unit if that will be alright, and also extend all of the Piccadilly train stations to make more space for all of the developed 8 car per unit 1973 stock air condition trains and can you also build another Mayflower and Tornado Steam Locomotive Companies and they can order Every 17 Octagon and Hexagon shape LNER diagram unique small no.13 and unique small no.10 Boilers from those Countries such as Greece, Italy, Poland, and Sweden, can they make Mayflower and Tornado Steam Locomotive speeds by up to 117MPH so you can try and test it on the Original Mainline so it will be much more safer for the Passengers to enjoy the 117MPH speed Limit only for HS2 and Channel Tunnel mainline services, if they needed 16 Carriages Per units can they use those class 55’s, class 44’s, class 40’s and class 43HST Diesel Locomotive’s right at the Back of those 18 Carriages Per Units so they can take over at the Back to let those Mayflower and Tornado Steam Locomotive’s have a rest for those interesting Journeys Please!!, oh can you make all of those Coal Boxes’s 16 Tonnes for all of the 117MPH Mayflower and Tornado Steam Locomotive’s so the Companies will Understand us PASSENGER’S!! so please make sure that the Builders can do as they are Told!! And please do something about these very important Professional ideas Please Prime Minister of England, the Prime Minister of Sweden, the Prime Minister of Germany, the Prime Minister of Italy, the Prime Minister of Poland and that Includes the Mayor of London.
great stuff, I always pass the line were in branches off and upwards when I am on the train to Southport, it's still marked on most maps and I think it's not technically abandoned just unused by Merseyrail as they have no use of it
We used to walk that line home from school as a short cutwhich has since been demolished (St Wilfrid's) I was caught one time and brought into offices at Lime St to be given a caution and since it was my 1st time being caught I was let off with the fine.
At the Aintree end, the tracks don’t finish there either. They continue across the field and to between the new housing estate and warehousing. The tracks ran right through to Dunnings Bridge Rd and could be see before they started building Mersey Reach Estate! I even have pics and of the old factory foundations!
So glad you did this. I spent many years as a child wondering where this line went. I remember the bridge heading into the docks before it was demolished. The advent of Google Earth allowed me to follow the lines from above. This bridge pretty much got my hooked on historic railways. Thanks for the video.
That first viaduct does have merit, because Engineers study the intricate brickwork involved as it is skewed. I don't know the ins and outs, but apparently this is true!
Hi just watched this and the rustic pole structure you pointed out belongs to me one of your subscribers if you would like to see my set up put in the cat and ferret the extention on to the railway embankment is play area for them cheers your videos are boss I also have done videos of train tunnels kirkdale years a go one day I'll put them on u tube keep the good work up I love watching them thanks
Ah no way that's so funny. I really liked the structure. It's nice it's for the cat and ferret to have a run around. Yeah your should put your videos on youtube definitely
@@BeeHereNowuk Hi mate, this is my other channel I mentioned here. When you get some free time, feel free to check out our channel and this video that goes a into a bit more detail about the enclosure you came across. Hope you enjoy seeing a little bit of what's going on there th-cam.com/video/YS4TYbviJ6c/w-d-xo.html
As always a very informatve video Ollie I used to work trains along there in the early seventies to Fazakerley and Aintree liner it didnt look like that then amazing how nature reclaims land. ( It was on a Merseyrail site that a trespasser was seen up there I don't know if that was you )
Really nice to see , there are still old railway lines left behind to explore . Like you're presenting style , giving a history of the line as your walking around the old track bed and bridge's .
I’ve found loads of old rail systems especially around kirkdale where I’m from there was a line on what we call the ralla the back of the kirkdale depot
The new 3rd rail/battery hybrid Class 777 Merseyrail trains have been suggested to use the line. No expensive electrification is needed, as the trains will be running on batteries. A station was suggested. Whether it will be double tracked or remain single will be seen. The line would not be used a lot so single track may stay.
Love these videos. Abandoned railways are the most enchanted of places. Even in the early 1960's we would hang out in such places full of birds and butterflies and remnants of days gone by.
at 14:41 the map shows the shunting depot and turntable just where the two maps are joined there is a little circle which was the turntable....the Aintree Iron....Used to play on it as a kid. and go and watch the whippet racers roughly where it says Bull Lane on the map
Bloomin 'eck, Bill, you could have cut him some slack for having a different accent and hence pronouncing some stuff differently! 😄. I once had a job where I dealt with callers from across the North West - I remember one woman telling me that her address was on Chorley road but the way she said it sounded like Charlie road and when I typed it in, nothing came up! Took a good minute or so for me to realise what she meant lol.
Great video, recently moved to Formby and noticed when traveling out of Liverpool central on the train, those old rails, might have to have a stroll along some time!
Thanks for this always wanted to know where this line goes I don’t get why one side of it was lifted though seems stupid both sides wasn’t kept and someone under one of them bridges sure loves there alcohol lol
The tracks on the branch still carry on to the west platforms at Aintree Sefton Arms station whereas the "main line " carried on to the ex L & Y line to Wigan Wallgate after Aintree Racecourse station and the extensive sidings.
Thank you very much that was interesting you fighting your way through all the vegetation , I do think it’s very sad that very little freight goes by train now as we seem to put all our eggs in one basket i.e. the roads but it is coming back to haunt us at the moment with the shortage of drivers I think companies that can should be encouraged to put the goods if possible on the 🚂 Trains
Cos I’ll walk around. Philips Park, Beswick and Clayton and feel fine even though it’s dodgy AF, But get me round Liverpool where I’m unfamiliar and I’m scared
There's something nostalgically evocative about old railways, I remember as a child walking along the disused railway sidings of the ‘Halewood triangle that still had signal boxes and old coal wagons, great for exploring. Thanks for sharing. 👍
Loved this vidio I was brought up in Fazakerley used to go over what we called the dizzy steps whiich took you to the Aintree shunting sheds, my father inlaw was a train driver at these sheds, I used to play football for Aintree SS the the pitch ran along side the Ormskirk line access to the ground was down Helsby rd, I now live in Durley Rd with the Kirkby line at the bottom of my garden great memories.
What I am very surprised at is the fact that the rails are still there and that the land, like most of the rest of the land that became vacant after the vandals destroyed our railway system, has not been flogged off for yet another housing estate development.
I love the old sadly forgotten rail lines of our city . So interesting. I might walk it . We in England deliberately destroyed and the De-industrialised OUR country for a few Greedy people.
Great video . However when the dock branch was in use, none of those cranes were there as the most northerly dock was built yet. That land was stolen from us as per usual.
Ay we wouldn't mug ya lad we are sound as fuck probably take the piss a bit, but no hate haha 👍 love tour videos. That tar place is now a Tesco was also a lead works before that.
Used to go to the black bridge when I was a kid, n go through a hole in the ground to the metal beams underneath, you could sit there with the Southport train going right underneath you
Great video, brought back lots of memories when we were kids we used to lean over the bridge abutments, I think it was the bridge with the everton graffiti on it and wait for the stream trains to come under one side of the bridge get covered in smoke and sparks then see who could beat the train to the other side. It would be great to see the line brought back to life or opened up as a footpath or cycle way.
A cracking video. We used to have jobs down to Aintree Liner Depot, from Garston. Some great still photo`s there mate, especially the Class 40 with the lifted track panels. I have worked on the Railway for over 30 years and I still find this stuff interesting, it`s like looking into the past. To think that some of the lads, I worked with, that would have been part of their daily working life.
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The Google Earth images were impressive. The weather looked lovely. Really enjoyed this explore. Thanks for this video.
It’s officially mothballed, opposed to closed. They ran a loco on a gauging trip along here in the early noughties.
I did wonder why the track hadn't been lifted. So many disused lines seem to have the track lifted almost immediately.
The North Mersey Branch line was scheduled to be a part of Merseyrail with a few stations on it, one named _Giro,_ at the Giro bank complex. Sefton Council have continually lobbied for its reopening.
About one third of Merseyrail was cancelled by Thatcher forty years ago - in the meantime London has had: the DLR, Overground, Underground extensions, Thameslink, Crossrail, etc. Miles and miles of trackbed and tunnels are awaiting trains in the Liverpool City Region, with even an underground burrowing junction and header tunnels built awaiting connection to the network, south of Central underground station. We are building HS2, but Liverpool is still waiting for tracks and trains.
The North Mersey Branch line is reserved for reuse, with Merseytravel having long term aspirations for its use. It was used until recently by slow moving maintenance trains, hence why the tracks are still in place. It was once electrified 3rd rail, with Liverpool Overhead trains reaching Aintree.
While I understand your comment we have to be grateful of what we have, we have a great rail network here in Liverpool, cities like Leeds are very isolated and nowhere near as good as us.
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Grateteful for what we have?
So we should stand there cap in hand that Boris Trump has not ripped it all up?
The city's rail infrastructure is extensive with some of the oldest, and unique, historical railway infrastructure in the world.
All we want is to have what was promised, *and started,* 40 odd years ago. To give the city region the metro it deserves. We have to fight to get it all reused.
Good comment John Burns!
@@flippop101
If the underground burrowing junction south of Central station was flyovers on the surface, it would have been used decades ago because people can see it. Insisting it be used. The expensive to build junction, laying there unused, is out of sight, so out of mind.
The city needs the junction connected to the Wapping tunnel ASAP. It connect the eastern section of the city to the central underground section. It creates an east- west _crossrail,_ say from Wigan to West Kirkby, if the stock interchange tunnel between Central and James St is used for passenger trains.
The Liverpool to Wigan line was supposed to be on Merseyrail, but it was not electrified. It was electrified with wires in 2015. It never transfered to Merseyrail. Now the new Class 777 trains can use wires, there is no plan to transfer the line to Merseyrail, because the trains cannot easily get to the maintenance depot at Kirkdale.
@@johnburns4017 no. What I'm saying is that in the North especially there are areas with little to no local commuter rail, like I said with Leeds. Liverpool has a fairly reliable commuter rail network for UK standards with pre coving trains per 15 minutes, there's plans to extend the network and there already building new station's the new trains will be out this year (if they can pull there fingers out) what was exactly promised 40 years ago? Because alot of liverpools rail that closed just wasn't economically viable
Loved watching this. You started out 5 minutes away from where I live near Seaforth. Really interesting to watch, thank you
I lived in litherland. Where are you now
Thank you very much for the Aintree Iron
Thank YOU very much; As a kid growing up on Isle of Wight, I always used to sing thank u very much for the "entry" iron. Now I know & what's in an accent !
Really enjoyed the video, it's just a shame you didn't go and actually show the junction. Are the points for the branch still in place or has it been taken up? I looking forward to another explore.
Until 1953 that section was electrified and there was an alternative Liverpool to Ormskirk route. Also at Aintree Central it connected with a Cheshire lines route to Southport Lord Street station with trains from Liverpool and Manchester.
Just make my morning coffee, turned on the lap top and what was waiting just for me---a new "Bee Here Now" video. When were the sleepers changed from wood to concrete? What a great day for a adventure, nothing like a long walk on a perfect day. Your videos are so enjoyable to watch, the way you look around while you narrate to the camera makes it feel like were walking around with you. Happy three year youtube anniversary.... Stay strong, Stay safe.
I’ve walked some of the closed lines in the Stoke area where the track is still there. Fighting your way through the undergrowth but with the track still there to guide you along the correct route.
Loved watching this . We used to walk ‘the raller’ daily on our way to school (St Wilfrids) which is no longer there. I remember being able to see down the entire length of the black bridge - st Wilfrids stretch. On rare occasions a Diesel engine would appear in the distance, causing a group of boys to scramble to find a way off the raller to avoid the mythical ‘raller police’ 🤣. Very happy days
The Raller love it !
Them Mythical police exist, I was caught and brought into offices at Lime Street (transport police) and cautioned and told if I was caught again I'd be fined.
Haha the mythical raller jacks
Interesting. Thanks
Would be great if it could be reused for something! Seems to shame to see all that work hidden.
Used to walk the dogs along here in the 90's, amazing how quick nature reclaims everything.
How did you get on the tracks?
The line from Sefton Junction to Fazakerley has mostly been given over to Housing especially around Aintree Loco Shed.
I believe the footpath still exists though?
Mad me watching this.
Five or more years ago when I was a builder we was asked to do a job in a back garden in Aintree.
My boss asked the customer for the planning. Customer didn't think it was needed.
Customer applied for planning permission and got it.
Boss checked the deeds on the land and ten foot of his garden goes over the line, I can't remember the full stipulation but anything he did in the ten foot was at risk of being demolished in the future for the line.
I just looked on google maps for the job, was at Roseworth ave and the line runs through seventeen gardens.
At the back of the gardens there's a five foot gap all the way along.
'Gorse: Nature's razor wire' 😂
Not far from me where you ended, you could have carried on a little bit to Aintree station and finished with a view of Aintree Racecourse. Hopped over the fence and got the train home.👍
Yeah i didn't even think about it. I was too tired haha
How rare to find an abandoned line with intact rails!
Interesting to see check rails here and there (those third rails, installed to keep the flanges on track).
Particularly liked you earth 3D exposition intro. 😉
Very enoyable, just one slight criticism - If you could have named the roads which used those viaducts would have helped. As a local I could have had a better idea of the location. Nontheless well done. I have subscibed. :)
Look at that, all that struggling through all that undergrowth in all that sun and not a drop of sweat in sight! If I tried it I would be lucky if I could get a few hundred yards without my head absolutely EXPLODING like versuvius with absolutely APPALLING profuse sweat, and that's what happened when I tried to cross the short viaduct at Clifton some years ago.
And now Peel ports want to build a dual carriageway from near the end of the M57, across Rimrose Valley Park, past local housing causing so much upheaval and pollution, why don't they at least reinstate some of these lines to get into the docks?
You could see my house from the first Viaduct. I used to use the track to get home from school and in recent years, it's been used as an ambush for the unsuspecting, notably for the spate of 'Buttock shootings' a few years back.
You would have to get me very very high to make me want to walk any part of that route. Fair play to you young man. Top work Fella.
You like your impenetrable jungle don't you!
I suppose the fact it's been reclaimed by nature makes it more interesting - a closed railway line without trees growing on it could well be an open line.
Haha yeah it adds character! To the line and to me!!
Binge watching your videos rn. All the tunnels under Liverpool, what an amazing city above and below. Great work!
Why was the spur closed? Would be useful diversionary route. What I love about the north is that so much is intact, rather than just sad abutments.
Have you been along the old railway that runs along the back of Alderhay hospital and through part of Notty Ash.
I needed to know why don’t dig a tunnel and do an extension for the main line Train so that they could extend the unused abandoned underground stations.
Why couldn’t they use the part D78 Stock train doors on the sides and also restructure the front face of the A60 and A62 stock and that includes the class 313, class 314 and class 315 remix and make them all together and also redesign them an overhead line and also make them into six cars per units and also having three Disabled Toilets on that six cars per units A60 and A62 stock trains and also convert the A60 and A62 stock trains into a Scania N112, Volvo TD102KF, Volvo D10M, Volvo B10M, Gardner 6LXB, Gardner 6LXC and Gardner 8LXB Diesel Engines and also put the Loud 7-Speed Voith Gearboxes even Loud 8-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Gearboxes in the A60 and A62 stock, class 313, class 314, and class 315 and also modernise the A60 and A62 stock and make it into an 11 car per unit so it could have fewer doors, more tables, computers and mobile phone chargers.
A Stock Trains and also having 8 Disabled Toilets on those A stock trains. why couldn’t we refurbish and modernise the waterloo and city line Triple-Track train tunnel and make it bigger and extend it to the bank station, making it into a Triple-Track Railway Line so those 4 European countries such as Germany, Italy, Poland And Sweden to convert the waterloo and city line Triple-Track Train tunnel into a High-Speed train?
The Third Euro tunnel Triple-Track Train line to make it 11 times better for passengers so they could go from A to B. then put the modernised 11 car per unit A Stock and put them on a bigger modernised waterloo and city line Triple-Track train tunnel so it could go to bank station to those 4 European countries such as Germany, Italy, Poland And Sweden. The modernised refurbished 11 cars per unit A stock could be a High Speed The Third Triple-Track Euro Tunnel Train So it is promising and 37 times a lot more possible to do this kind of project that is OK for London Germany, Italy, Poland And Sweden.
oh by the way, could they also tunnel the Triple-Track Railway Line so it will stop from Buckinghamshire, Hertfordshire and Essex so that the Passengers will go to Germany, Italy, Poland and Sweden and also extend the Triple-Track Railway Line from Bank to Buckinghamshire, Hertfordshire and Essex Stations so that more people from there could go to Germany, Italy, Poland And Sweden Easily.
Why couldn't they extend the Piccadilly line and also build brand-new underground train stations so it could go even further right up to Clapton, Wood Street and also make another brand new tunnel train station in Chingford could they extend the DLR.
All of the classes 150, 155, 154, 117, 114, 105, and 106, will be replaced by all of the Scania N112, Volvo TD102KF, Volvo D10M, Volvo B10M, Gardner 6LXB, Gardner 6LXC and Gardner 8LXB Diesel Six carriages three disabled toilets are air conditioning trains including Highams Park for extended roots which is the Piccadilly line and the DLR trains.
Could you also convert all of the 1973 stock trains into an air-conditioned maximum speed 78 km/hours (48 MPH) re-refurbished and make it into a 8 cars per unit if that will be alright, and also extend all of the Piccadilly train stations to make more space for all of the developed 8 car per unit 1973 stock air condition trains and can you also build another Mayflower and Tornado Steam Locomotive Companies and they can order Every 17 Octagon and Hexagon shape LNER diagram unique small no.13 and unique small no.10 Boilers from those Countries such as Greece, Italy, Poland, and Sweden, can they make Mayflower and Tornado Steam Locomotive speeds by up to 117MPH so you can try and test it on the Original Mainline so it will be much more safer for the Passengers to enjoy the 117MPH speed Limit only for HS2 and Channel Tunnel mainline services, if they needed 16 Carriages Per units can they use those class 55’s, class 44’s, class 40’s and class 43HST Diesel Locomotive’s right at the Back of those 18 Carriages Per Units so they can take over at the Back to let those Mayflower and Tornado Steam Locomotive’s have a rest for those interesting Journeys Please!!, oh can you make all of those Coal Boxes’s 16 Tonnes for all of the 117MPH Mayflower and Tornado Steam Locomotive’s so the Companies will Understand us PASSENGER’S!! so please make sure that the Builders can do as they are Told!! And please do something about these very important Professional ideas Please Prime Minister of England, the Prime Minister of Sweden, the Prime Minister of Germany, the Prime Minister of Italy, the Prime Minister of Poland and that Includes the Mayor of London.
At point 6.06 you are at the old Linacre Road station. You can still see the platforms either side
Fantastic video thanks for battling through that undergrowth 👍
Nice work. Knowing those kind of places are the haunts of “scally youth’s “ leaves you open to being mollested..
great stuff, I always pass the line were in branches off and upwards when I am on the train to Southport, it's still marked on most maps and I think it's not technically abandoned just unused by Merseyrail as they have no use of it
We used to walk that line home from school as a short cutwhich has since been demolished (St Wilfrid's) I was caught one time and brought into offices at Lime St to be given a caution and since it was my 1st time being caught I was let off with the fine.
At the Aintree end, the tracks don’t finish there either. They continue across the field and to between the new housing estate and warehousing. The tracks ran right through to Dunnings Bridge Rd and could be see before they started building Mersey Reach Estate! I even have pics and of the old factory foundations!
So glad you did this. I spent many years as a child wondering where this line went. I remember the bridge heading into the docks before it was demolished. The advent of Google Earth allowed me to follow the lines from above. This bridge pretty much got my hooked on historic railways. Thanks for the video.
Abandoned railways can be fascinating, peaceful, deserted, an oasis (in parts) yet just feet from the bustle of normal human life.
I am glad you like graffiti maybe get your house done most hate it the rest was good
That first viaduct does have merit, because Engineers study the intricate brickwork involved as it is skewed. I don't know the ins and outs, but apparently this is true!
Hi just watched this and the rustic pole structure you pointed out belongs to me one of your subscribers if you would like to see my set up put in the cat and ferret the extention on to the railway embankment is play area for them cheers your videos are boss I also have done videos of train tunnels kirkdale years a go one day I'll put them on u tube keep the good work up I love watching them thanks
Ah no way that's so funny. I really liked the structure. It's nice it's for the cat and ferret to have a run around. Yeah your should put your videos on youtube definitely
Thanks for the reply l will put them vids up don't forget put the cat and ferret in it's on u tube thanks again cherrs
@@BeeHereNowuk Hi mate, this is my other channel I mentioned here. When you get some free time, feel free to check out our channel and this video that goes a into a bit more detail about the enclosure you came across. Hope you enjoy seeing a little bit of what's going on there
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As always a very informatve video Ollie I used to work trains along there in the early seventies to Fazakerley and Aintree liner it didnt look like that then amazing how nature reclaims land. ( It was on a Merseyrail site that a trespasser was seen up there I don't know if that was you )
Really nice to see , there are still old railway lines left behind to explore .
Like you're presenting style , giving a history of the line as your walking around the old track bed and bridge's .
This would make a wonderful walking and biking trail.
@@jamescrab4110 Why not?
It would make an even better fully functioning metro line.
Great video - I really enjoyed seeing the old maps included for context 🙂
It really needs to be reopened to serve the docks.
Well done young man! Good exercise. Start a campaign to relaunch the freight traffic!
Happy Days!
Enjoyed this- thank you! I worked as a BR apprentice for three months at Fazakerley sidings in the earl eighties, very good memories!
I’ve found loads of old rail systems especially around kirkdale where I’m from there was a line on what we call the ralla the back of the kirkdale depot
Surprised how the extensive vegetation hasn't damaged the structure of the viaduct.
The new 3rd rail/battery hybrid Class 777 Merseyrail trains have been suggested to use the line. No expensive electrification is needed, as the trains will be running on batteries. A station was suggested. Whether it will be double tracked or remain single will be seen. The line would not be used a lot so single track may stay.
We're did you find this out interesting
Cracking vid 👍👍👍
This should become a heritage railway before its totally lost
Love these videos. Abandoned railways are the most enchanted of places. Even in the early 1960's we would hang out in such places full of birds and butterflies and remnants of days gone by.
at 14:41 the map shows the shunting depot and turntable just where the two maps are joined there is a little circle which was the turntable....the Aintree Iron....Used to play on it as a kid. and go and watch the whippet racers roughly where it says Bull Lane on the map
My dad told me about the turntable there, there was also a junction box and an engine shed too
minor point. Seaforth is pronounced not as seafeth as at 1:33, it isn't a truncated word....it is two words said in one.... see forth
Oops. I think that's my inner Yorkshireman coming out! Haha. I was just glad I said Fazakerley right first time!!
Bloomin 'eck, Bill, you could have cut him some slack for having a different accent and hence pronouncing some stuff differently! 😄.
I once had a job where I dealt with callers from across the North West - I remember one woman telling me that her address was on Chorley road but the way she said it sounded like Charlie road and when I typed it in, nothing came up! Took a good minute or so for me to realise what she meant lol.
Another great video Ollie, many thanks.
What do you use to video your outdoor scenes?
another sound video really interesting ,very well put together as always
I grew up in Bootle. Used to play on that viaduct
Thanks for doiing that arduous walk. Would love to see that openned up for something.
Really enjoying the videos....thanks for sharing your explorations 😊
Now I know why there’s been no railtours booked to do this line of recent!
When was last train
@@Truerealism747I’m afraid I ain’t got a clue.
In 2010 a Maintenance Train used the line as a one off but back then it wasn't very overgrown
Brilliant .The one you did at carrington was super as well.
Great video, recently moved to Formby and noticed when traveling out of Liverpool central on the train, those old rails, might have to have a stroll along some time!
Thanks for this always wanted to know where this line goes I don’t get why one side of it was lifted though seems stupid both sides wasn’t kept and someone under one of them bridges sure loves there alcohol lol
The tracks on the branch still carry on to the west platforms at Aintree Sefton Arms station whereas the "main line " carried on to the ex L & Y line to Wigan Wallgate after Aintree Racecourse station and the extensive sidings.
Not really a much useful track right now, More like a novelty track to the Dales if it did still exist to this day.
Just got into these videos by accident and really enjoying seeing a different history of my city.
Thanks mate, it's great what you do and your great at doing it 👍
Love old rail tracks spent years walking the old route in Ireland 🇮🇪
Thank you very much that was interesting you fighting your way through all the vegetation , I do think it’s very sad that very little freight goes by train now as we seem to put all our eggs in one basket i.e. the roads but it is coming back to haunt us at the moment with the shortage of drivers I think companies that can should be encouraged to put the goods if possible on the 🚂 Trains
Great video
Another really interesting journey - thanks for getting all the scratches and arachnid action on our behalf! Best wishes J & S
Cos I’ll walk around. Philips Park, Beswick and Clayton and feel fine even though it’s dodgy AF, But get me round Liverpool where I’m unfamiliar and I’m scared
Walked this line a few times me self I know this part of Liverpool very well
Hiya,have you mentioned the old coastal railway from Southport to Liverpool...?
Great to see the history....;-)
There's something nostalgically evocative about old railways, I remember as a child walking along the disused railway sidings of the ‘Halewood triangle that still had signal boxes and old coal wagons, great for exploring.
Thanks for sharing. 👍
Brill video. Loved the pic of the EWS class 37. 👍
Cracking vid that la , my neck of the woods .
Fascinating video, I was aware of it's existance but great to see how it was
Loved this vidio I was brought up in Fazakerley used to go over what we called the dizzy steps whiich took you to the Aintree shunting sheds, my father inlaw was a train driver at these sheds, I used to play football for Aintree SS the the pitch ran along side the Ormskirk line access to the ground was down Helsby rd, I now live in Durley Rd with the Kirkby line at the bottom of my garden great memories.
What I am very surprised at is the fact that the rails are still there and that the land, like most of the rest of the land that became vacant after the vandals destroyed our railway system, has not been flogged off for yet another housing estate development.
Nice one again - great for not giving up and interesting for me as I have family nearby...
I love the old sadly forgotten rail lines of our city .
So interesting. I might walk it .
We in England deliberately destroyed and the De-industrialised OUR country for a few Greedy people.
Despite its name it is not a _branch_ line. It runs from Bootle to Aintree.
That last photo you showed in Bootle under the bridge, I live 5 minutes away on Scott Street next to the Best One shop on Knowsley Road.
If you play the clip of Foinnavon winning the Grand National, the train stops on that line, so the passengers can watch the race.
A great videpo mate, lots of histpry. However I am very concerned about what looks like a dead body behind you 11:12
Great video . However when the dock branch was in use, none of those cranes were there as the most northerly dock was built yet. That land was stolen from us as per usual.
Why do old abandoned railway lines always seem to attract silver birch trees? Who plants them? And why aren’t there other trees?
I used to live on a house in Walton andthe goods line from the docks went under the house,you could hear the rumbling of the trains0
Fantastic videos you have. Nice to see my home city’s hidden gems. Love your historical notes as well. Keep it up.
Ay we wouldn't mug ya lad we are sound as fuck probably take the piss a bit, but no hate haha 👍 love tour videos.
That tar place is now a Tesco was also a lead works before that.
Used to go to the black bridge when I was a kid, n go through a hole in the ground to the metal beams underneath, you could sit there with the Southport train going right underneath you
Great video as always. Thank you Ollie
Great video, brought back lots of memories when we were kids we used to lean over the bridge abutments, I think it was the bridge with the everton graffiti on it and wait for the stream trains to come under one side of the bridge get covered in smoke and sparks then see who could beat the train to the other side. It would be great to see the line brought back to life or opened up as a footpath or cycle way.
you do some very good work thanks
Good job, excellent video thank you 🤸🤸😃
I live under the short viaduct and was always up on the track when it was very active
A cracking video. We used to have jobs down to Aintree Liner Depot, from Garston. Some great still photo`s there mate, especially the Class 40 with the lifted track panels. I have worked on the Railway for over 30 years and I still find this stuff interesting, it`s like looking into the past. To think that some of the lads, I worked with, that would have been part of their daily working life.
I noticed the EE type 4 too . Great stuff.
At 15.06 it looks like the bridle road section which was once the rail section into the old container base .
All cleared now.. they recently opened it all up for some reason .
Nice job. Really enjoyed this.