WRX vs STI - which is better?
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- www.groovesubar... | Brendan Hancock and Ben Brooks of Groove Subaru debate which is better: the 2016 Subaru WRX or the 2016 Subaru STI. You decide.
== WRX PREMIUM ==
Engine
2.0L H4
Displacement (CC)
1998
Horsepower
268@5600
Torque (lbs.-ft.)
258@2000
Base Price MSRP
$28,895
== STI ==
Engine
2.5L H4
Displacement (CC)
2457
Horsepower
305@6000
Torque (lbs.-ft.)
290@4000
Base Price MSRP
$34,695
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The problem with vids like this is that it doesn't have to be "better than". I have a '15 STI Launch, and I respect the WRX owners. The STI and WRX are made for two different enthusiasts -- those that like modding cutting edge tech, and those that are older gear heads who prefer working with tried mechanical tech. I respect the fact that Subaru made two different packages for each camp. You both have great cars -- the end.
went with the WRX I commute 50 miles for work it gets pretty good gas mileage 25 to 28 not bad
Dude on the right is so salty he doesn't have an sti😂😂
bahaha that what i was thinking
sti fanboys I see
He has no need to be salty....the WRX is better.
I don’t know of anyone that is salty about owning a wrx... most subs drivers are cool bout whatever model they have, they are both high performing vehicles.... sti is the pinnacle though.
His gf wouldn't "let" him get a wing? Lmfao. Whipped or nah
She also wouldn't let him get the STi by the looks of it.
Called responsibility... u gotta learn that. Also, no speeding tickets.
I was out at the "grind your clutch" comment!
STI
1) brakes
2) transmission
3)SI drive
4) fwd/rwd split
WRX is no joke, new motor is great.
I've had both, a 2012 STI and now a 2016 WRX.. their both fun cars, I just enjoy 34mpg(hwy) with bolt on's.
There is so much misinformation in this video. It's actually quite alarming.
+tyler lieberman What info did they misrepresent? They gave some basic info each car then gave their personal opinion why they loved their car.
+tyler lieberman probably because its an advertisement in disguise
+Terrill Cooke all the information they gave regarding the DCCD was incorrect. It doesn't change the car to FWD or RWD. It simply shifts the bias of torque distribution between the front and rear axles.
Then he said you can go up to a 70/30 split. That is also false. The older vehicles could go as far as a 65/35 split. The current STI, and the GR chassis before it, can go up to a 59/41 split. That's it.
Then he mentions how no other car does this. The GTRs AWD system, and the Evo's AWD system are more than capable of doing this, and do it better, as 100% of the power can go to a single wheel at any given time.
The list goes on
+tyler lieberman Oh good ear I wasn't listening to all those comments. I was focusing on the main point of the vid which car is better. Which I don't think they go in detail about, just general opinions.
+DerpyGamer Meaneye, bugeye, blobeye, hawkeye, stinkeye, and now the evoeye
Oh geez. I have an STi and the ride isn’t nearly as bad as people make it out to be. For comparison I also own a WRX and yes it’s softer but the STi firms it up to the point of being way more fun, it does not beat you up at all. Try driving a BRZ if you want to know what a rough suspension is
The WRX is for rally hence it means World Rally Xperimental. On the other hand, the STi is for regular driving, racing and drag racing hence the name Subaru Tecna international
Test drove both... bought the STI
have fun fixing the ringland in the future on your sti! :D
+xxxREVOLVERxxx yup because it happens to 100% of the STI's sold by Subaru...
+xxxREVOLVERxxx the whole ringland issue depends on the driver if u drive the car like a complete moron then u will most likely end up with ringland issues I have over 13k miles on mine with a stage 2 pro tune no issues what so ever
+HyperBlue STI ej engine are too outdated. Stock tune is just terrible. it runs the car far too lean in boost, to the point of knock...period. Subaru is fully aware the stock tune cracks pistons, how lean the car runs, and that it breaks motors. FA20DIT doesn't have that issue....I'm not saying 100% without ringland failure issues with FA20DIT motor but substantially minimized.
+xxxREVOLVERxxx I agree the stock tune is straight doo doo that's y I have a pro tune. The fa20 motor is not that great either tuners don't like working on that motor at least the one I went to prefer the Ej
I kinda like the STI without the wing and the vortex, I was a professional driver and recently drove an STI and WRX street car... I was BLOWN away by the handling. power low on both but looking at WRX for fuel economy. My new Tundra gets 10 mpg.
What's better? The more expensive, faster version of the other car with a larger engine, brembo brake kit, electronically assisted steering and adjustable differentials, recaro seats, larger wheels, and a badass wing, or the base version? Hmmm
which car is better? what are your needs? STI gas mileage is horrible and a stiff ride which makes it a poor daily/commuter car. wrx wins in this category. For the track or maximum hooning, STI is the way to go. Pretty simple.
+ALT3REDB3AST STi can easily get 25mpg, people just dont know how to drive.
+CrazyForCooCooPuffs lol if you're driving like that. then you're prolly having no fun
HingleMcCringleBerry If your having fun at all time you get ring land failure.
+CrazyForCooCooPuffs Easily get 25mpg? If i drive easy and try to get the best mpg im still seeing 21-23mpg. Maybe on the highway but around town and 25mpg no way.
+CrazyForCooCooPuffs I have the CVT Version, the ONLY way i'm getting 25mpg is if i don't drive with the paddle shifters and keep it under boost.
What I can AFFORD. That's what dictates "WHAT"S BETTER."
The WRX does have the SI modes.... just not in a little wheel like the STI. On the WRX it's by buttons on the steering wheel. Same three modes as the STI: i, S and S#.
that's only on the shit CVT transmission
You should talk about when the boost comes in. This makes a big difference as the boost in the WRX comes in much sooner than on the STI. The WRX is the pick for a daily drive - ie. and I would suggest that most folks use their WRX as a daily drive. STI is for those who do track days or simply want to be more of a show-off or don't do track days but irrespective of rational thought, just want the STI. There's no real right of wrong.
I went with the WRX because I couldent afford the STI. but I am very happy with the WRX.
Dude on the left was nervous as hell. I need another a review
I had a 2015 wrx base. Bought it new in December of 2014. Went stage 2 + in the first 1000 miles and drove it problem free until 31000 miles when I traded it in on my 2015 1LE Camaro in February of 2016. So 14 months ownership roughly. I got $22000 trade in and paid $25,800 for it new, and I got to keep all of my aftermarket parts to sell. I thought that was a hell of a deal.
So you might ask, why did I trade it on a 1LE. Well, for starters, 1LE. Secondly, to go any further with the 2.0 DIT, would have required turbo and/or internal mods. An IAG short block was about $4000 and a turbo kit would have been close to that. I just couldn't justify putting that much more money into the car so I traded it.
That said, I loved my 15 WRX. It was a phenomenal car.
Don't understand why you are saying you wanted to add a turbo kit to a car that already has turbo
Yeah all he would have to do is upgrade said stock turbo kit haha whatever
Guy on right automatically loses argument when he states he didn't get a car because his girlfriend "wouldn't let him" because of the wing.
I'm buying a new car in the next few weeks. It is between a new/almost new wrx or a used STI of the current generation. I can't for the life of me decide which to go. It will be daily driver. It it was just a fun car, I would go STI in a heart beat. I've always wanted one. I've owned a FRS now for almost 4 years, and the ride leaves something to be desired for a DD. That is the only thing that gives me reservations about having an STI as a DD. I wish it was easier to decide these things lol.
I still own the white WRX that you see in this video and I would personally recommend it over the STI as a daily driver. I do wish it had a DCCD so I could do donuts more easily, but the better fuel economy, torque at lower RPM's, and the much lower cost make it a better option in my opinion. I went from a 2013 BRZ into this car and have been very happy. I highly recommend the short throw shifter. Good luck, I'm sure you will make whatever decision is right for you.
Neither is better than the other they were made for a different market in they're own way both are the best subaru has to offer and its amazing.
The comment about the Stock STi used in the Wales Rally is 100% misleading.
David Higgins from Rally America drove the car in the rally and did come in 20th overall, But they used the WRX Sti NR4 which is a factory built Rally car that costs over 100k not a stock STi for the street (Subaru claims it is closer to stock than the old WRC cars, but still a race car and not for the street).
Also the NR4 uses the 2.0 EJ207 that all non-US spec STIs / Subaru Race Cars use (which is a stronger engine than the 2.5 that the US-spec STi gets)
They are both fun to drive but the sti def edges out the wrx. Also the sti motor is tried and true so as far as reliability is concerned I think the sti motor would edge out the wrx as far as longevity is concerned.
STI does racing all around. Not just rally. STI in Japan does most of their racing on the circuit track.
I drove both and would rather have a WRX as a daily. The STI is good if you're going to bring it to a race track. Otherwise, I think the WRX is much better as a daily driver.
I've had evolution 2 2007 sti 2012 sti & now 2015 wrx & I have to say the wrx is the better choice it has the awd turbo & manual 6 speed so all the fun is there but the most noticeable improvement is the mpg you get great mpg all the time even if your really having fun I got an intake & exhaust and coming from evo and sti' I'm amazed at the mpg I get from the wrx
Where did they get these 0-60 times. Wish my 2020 was that quick out the box.
I've had two Subaru's from new, they are great except for the head gaskets! You will only get 60K miles before they go. It has been an issue on Subaru for years and the dealers make heaps out of replacing them because the engine has to come out. If you see bubbles in the coolant overflow tank after a drive then the head gaskets are gone, there should be no air in the cooling system if the dealer says that's normal they are lying! Subaru know about it but they are making too much money on parts......Nothing like a bit of built in obsolescence
You said in november 2015 subaru used stock sti for rally (except with tires, cage, etc), I googled and still can't find it. Where did you get the info from?
They didn't ---- David Higgins drove the STi NR4 (Factory Built Rally car) not a stock STi
Technically, they are both WRX's, one just has the STI package...
no because they have completely different engines in them now....
+Thomas Chafey but they are both WRX's
I want a sti but I feel like I couldn't afford one? Could I get one as my first car? Or should I look elsewhere? If someone could help that would be nice.
El Duderino Relax 😂
You could get one as your first car. But take into account maintenance. It's not easy maintaining a performance car. You may be able to afford the car, but keeping it running can get pricey. I had a Subaru Loyale as a first car. Then a 2006 Mazdaspeed6, then a 2007 STi, then a 2017 WRX. After all is said I done, I am saving money owning the WRX in fuel and maintenance. Just some food for thought. Good luck
LOL you're letting your girl make the decision what to buy as far as car?? Fellas I drive my STi everyday and don't understand the how you can complain about the ride, pretty much any performance car rides rough? You also failed to mention the Sti has way better braking and way better headlamps and the steering alone makes the Sti so much better ? I get tried of people doing this comparo, look if you can't afford a Sti don't cry about it? Ya'll should probably buy a Focus RS
Respect
3/10's 0-60 and half a second on the 1/4 is not worth 3-5000$
Fully trimmed out WRX isn't cheap kid.
Stephen Carbajal focus rs cost more than an STI though 🤔
Really all depends what you want. Both cars were an option and I went with the WRX for a couple of reasons. 99.9% of my driving is on the streets so the excellent drive tran on the STi would mean nothing and not worth the harsher ride. The engine in the WRX is really a much better engine, power ramps up quicker which means better and quicker driving in the city and MPG is much better, finally tunes can deliver more bang for the buck on the 2.0L then on the STi' 2.5L. The only thing I envy on the STi are the breaks and tighter steering.
By the way the LED head lights have about 20% less light output then the Halogens according to Subaru engineers.
I could afford the STi and the WRX....chose the WRX. I personally don't want to buy an STi simply because I don't to pay for upgraded features I will replace anyways. Here's why. FA20 is better. I'd be swapping headlights on both cars regardless. I'd swap coilovers on both. I'd want different rotors on both. I'd want better wheels on both. I'm going to swap seats regardless of WRX or STi. They both have garbage seats. But you see where I'm going with this. I love the STi but the 15+ models, the WRX was better for me especially since I saved money and get to use the saved money on parts I want. Rather than spending 5-10k extra for the STi and still end up swapping most parts.
Wrx has access to boost 2000 rpm before sti. That alone puts these side by side for speed.
It's the engine in the STI reliable or does it still have issues with ringland failure? Anyone who owns a 15+ STI please let me know.
good interview ! is the 2018 going to have a new engine in the STI ?
totljag1 nope
the base price on their (subaru) website is like 36k ?
Let's see... STI has 37 more horsepower and an old out dated engine... STI gets horrible fuel economy... STI gets from 0 to 60 in about .03 seconds faster... I think I'd save the money on the STI and get the WRX, upgrade a few things (transmission mounts, exhaust, brakes, tune), and have a car that's better than the STI for still less money. If you wanted to keep going you could get a better suspension, intake, upgrade fuel system, etc.
How do you grind the clutch 🤔 😄
70/30 split lmfao why is he lying!? in the owners manual it says 59/41 lol only to the rear you cant make it front wheel drive lol
if I bought a base wrx which he said would be at around 268 hp and put a Cobb sf intake and a new down pipe about how much would hp increase? and how would that translate to speed?
it would murder a STI and you wouldn't have to worry about the ringlands ;)
Why doesn't anyone mention the sound or styling of the STI vs the WRX? I'm torn between the two. Something about the WRX is just hideous..I don't know if it's the wheels, lack of wing or what..
the wheels. they are awful. Hence why I am running gold BBS wheels on my 17 WRX. And a GT wing is in the future. or a duckbill
STI = Track car
WRX = daily driver
Not buying an STI or WRX yet. Maybe I'll wait if the evo will make a come back. Now that Carlos Ghosn will be back in Mitsubishi :)
I traded my 07 sti for 17 wrx, sti is a fucking monster!!! wrx coners like the devil though better than the old sti. i need to drive the new sti
sti wing is beast
in my country a new sti cost exactly 200k and a wrx 130k. i recently purchased my wrx , im not going to fucking pay over 50k+ for the sti fuck that , i can use that money and make my wrx x3 faster than an sti
It's pretty obvious that the sti is "better", it's literally the higher model of the same chassis.
with an outdated engine that causes problems, is 10k more, less comfortable to drive, worse gas milage and if you just put 2k into the WRX (which has a brand new motor) it will beat an STI. so I'd do a little research before going ahead and saying that
Joes FC pff people are fucking idiots , where i live a New subaru Wrx STI COST 200K AND THE WRX 130K..... HMMM WHAT SHOULD I GET..
WRX: updated FA20 with instant boost (weak rods) \____both need to be built
STi: outdated EJ257 with turbo lag (weak pistons) /
WRX: smaller brakes (easy upgrade, but tires is a better investment for braking)
STi: larger brakes (but tires provide quicker stops moreso than brakes)
WRX: 6 speed (good enough for the majority of owners)
STi: 6 speed (more stout, handles major power)
WRX: AWD
STI: AWD (DCCD, but not needed or entirely game changing. If it was torque vectoring, I'd understand)
The STi is great out of the box, but bang for your buck and potential, I see the WRX as better.
@@mieroku A home in a better country.
GREAT VIDEO !
STI is STI and WRX is WRX. Simple as that .. The difference amount of money between these two cars is not only for the options.. It a lot more that just options .
or just options, lolol
Can i know what the song is?
cobb accessport alone $600 turns sti into another animal(im stage 3 now still not happy) no sti review should be allowed until the ecu is jailbroken w a plug in OTS AP. Sti is embarrassing ly weak on stock epa map and factory did a shit job on it(lean running AND low power? lol) sti better car w resale value alone. 13:1 ratio hydraulic steering rack and diffs w 6MT and brembos. Resale alone is worth spending more.
Clueless people.. the ride is rough cause it has performance suspension, that doesn't make the WRX better cause it's has a "better" ride. Also they didn't even mention the brembo brakes on the STi!!!
MikeM Exactly!
I like the wrx more especially white
You did mention wrx is a better daily smooth ride, should of touched on way better mpg in wrx.
well that was a waste of time.
What wheels are on that wrx?
STi: way way way better brakes, differentials, and transmission. And only 10 grands more, yes i said it.
Only like 1k more if you chose the limited wrx.
oONoChanc3Oo are you saying that wrx limited has the same brakes, differentials, suspension, and transmission?? You are outside your mind
+Jayden Y Nah man lol. Sayings the sti is only 1k vs the limited wrx. Not 10k. Much better idea to just get an sti!
+oONoChanc3Oo Oh okay. I was comparing the base WRX to base STi. Well, I guess your way is probably the better way to look at it
+Jayden Y sti suspension , intercooler sprayer , dual climate control
What is the average age of buyers of WRX ?
I am 47,
Stéphane I mainly see people around my age driving wrx's and sti's(young adults 18 - late 20's). It's never to late to get it though man!
I’m 19 with bugeye🤷🏻♂️
Sadly the information being given sounds like a struggle to remember reading an owners manual. I was hoping for a technical explanation.
As soon as I heard they were dealers I skipped the video knowing there wouldn’t be a drag race.
The WRX don’t have the rumble which is a bummer
STI is better than WRX. No argument there. STI are overpriced by at least $10,000 than the WRX, BUT if you Invest $2000 in the Wrx you can beat an STI.
Wrx Simple Bolt on I/E and Cobb tuning will tie if not then beat an STI
Smarter Choice WRX do some research and Invest some money.
+Adrian Hernandez no limted slip diff , no brembo 4 piston brakes . No intercooler sprayer
+Ben Chesterman no sti suspension
+Adrian Hernandez having owned a 2012 STI and now a 2016 WRX...the FA20DIT motor is just better at everything
+STIUPTONOGOOD that good man i want an newer STI but thats out of my price range so i went with the 2003 wrx (bug eyed) i personally think they look better.
After 2007...nobody has an intercooler sprayer which is honestly a stupid simple upgrade if you really need a pointless feature that doesn't really improve power or performance.
The STI guy sold me my wrx
@thomas , 3 to 5,000 isnt about the straight line speed you obviously have never drivin a Sti? Price a brembo brake kit and that'll set you back 3K and knowing people like you, you probably can't install them yourself so you'll have to pay labor. The DCCD is something you also get with the Sti which you do not with a WRX, suspension and sway bars are way better than the WRX (speaking in racing terms). I can go on and on so stop it
And the WRX is the best bang for the buck car sub-30k. The Focus RS mauls the STI for the same money.
Except it's a Ford, so expect it to fall apart after 100k.
Wow what a crappy review/comparison they touched on only two points. Let me expaind on this and give you the real deal on what is best on both cars.
WRX:
- Direct Injection and dual scroll turbo. Allows to build up power quicker and earlier in the RPMs then STI. Better engine.
- Better ride quality.
- Better MPG
- Several thousand less expensive than the STI
- More HP unlocked with custom tune then is unlocked with the STI
STI:
- More HP and Torque (.5 liter larger engine)
- Better ADW
- Better Brakes
- Quicker steering
This pretty much sums it up. If you're a track rat the STI is the way to go, for a day to day driver the WRX is the better of the two. I bought the WRX for the newer engine tech, it is a better engine than the 2.5l but really miss the sharper steering and brakes. Once the STI goes to the newer engine I might be tempted to go that route. You really can't go wrong either way.
No side by side on the road., no test driving, nothing except reading the brochure and sounding like you're going to have a heart attach on camera. If you're gonna make the video, understand the true differences and actually test the vehicles, not just stand in front of them
Lmao what, his sti hits 0-60? In 4.6 seconds what. They both hit it at 5.0.
just wish STI had an updated engine
0-60 4.6 sec. Hmmm... Are you sure about that?
baymeo split yeah I thought the same lol, 4.9-5.0 flat sounds more reasonable for a STi, and that's with a good launch. Most guys buying a STi won't be able to launch it that fast.
lol... aaaaanndddd then the guy on the right decided to "edit out" the heads up race where the STi ate.
Bla bla bla. How about racing them? Or are you just going to stand next to them and bitch about how badass your car is? Remember: "It's not how you stand by your car, it's how you race your car." Edwin- The Fast and The Furious.2001.
Did he say….grind…the clutch?
0 - 60 in 4.6 seconds? That doesn't sound right
4.7 is the best i ever saw and that takes a great driver, in perfect conditons and tires
mazdaspeed 6 all day Diddy! !
THE DECISIONS
Wow cool!
STi is the AMG of Subaru. Quit arguing. I personally dont care if I have a WRX or an STi, but come on... the STi is just better sorry.
I'm here cuz I wanna buy one
Which is better..? The Sti was made to be better. That's why there's three levels of Impreza. -.- base. Wrx. Then STi. Waste of a video tbh.
But the WRX is lighter then the Sti and the WRX has greater torque and lower RPM, it honestly depends who's driving the car and can push it well
Shows how much you know.....it's not an Impreza anymore
The STi is better....in Japan.
US Spec, the WRX is arguably better. But both are flawed.
I say go big or go home
"If it ain't broke don't fix it"
Ok, explain ringland failure, head gasket failure, and spun bearings?
Over 100k miles in a STi u will be spending lots of money on "maintenance"
The ej25 is a outdated inefficient engine that drinks oil worse a rotary engine.
The WRX's fa20t is already proven to be a far superior engine when it comes to tuning.
5:15 "Ohhh it's an ad."
Turn the music down.
8 generations of the STi 😂😂😂
So many STI techs here , I find it repeatedly annoying with all the flaws people speak of about the STI . I’ve had the WRX and the STI both were lightly modded and the only thing I did was keep up with the service plan and drive intelligently and not like a fucking moron . The hype that’s surround this car is real and that’s the reason I upgraded from the WRX to the STI✌🏿 . Is one anyone better than the other? Who gives a shit they are both awesome cars and have different personality to match whatever you are into . Both car were purchased new from a local dealer so I definitely knew what I was getting vs getting a used one that was molested by 18 yr old man child . Every vehicle model has its fault but majority of what we are experiencing now is fuckin retards modding their shit from purchasing $50 mods and bad driving practices.
Haha he said trying to beat the Mitsubishi next to you. At least you're trying bro. Keep trying
So, no track testing, just opinions, just talk? Lol.
Get the WRX spend $2K and toast all stock
STI's and smile! You will save thousands and laugh down the road!
+Jack Hammer Yea in a drag race not on the track.
Ok spend $3,500 total and get sway bars etc and be gone you are still $5k ahead
No I don't think so, 3,500 on what?
500$ on a tune
500$ on a accesport which is required
400$ on sway bars
1700$ brembo's
what else?
The STi will still win.
To completely bring a WRX to STi spec will costs more than just buying an STi, the transmission is like 4000$ by it self. STi's suspension is tuned for the track also.
***** Cobb accessport is 600$ and a decent turbo back is 1200$ also using a generic tune is extremely stupid and is one of the main reasons subaru engines fail, so another 500$ for a protune which EVERYONE should get if they care even a little about their car.
thats about 2300$, STi still has better braking, its transmission isnt shit like the WRX.
***** I'd like to see how long that stressed engine will last running that hard above what its designed for. We all know how long stock STi's last.
lmao "sport" if your trying to "beat" (won't happen) the mitsubishi next to you lmao
I think the wing is corny lol
girlfriend or no girlfriend, the wing looks childish and ridiculous. it says two things - "cop magnet" and "queer for Paul Walker".
Dude on right, learn about your car man.
Barely any useful info. But then again, the vid is made by a dealership...
And don't forget that the STI reaches its peak torque in about 4000 rpm but the WRX in about 2000 rpm.
STI !!!
They both look like camrys. 04-07 were better
+HugsButNoDrugs - You don't see the outside from behind the wheel.
No they don't.
Old model owners hate on the newer models until they can afford it... lol amiright?
to beat the Mitsubishi Lancer because no evo will be behind a sti 😂😂
Sti