Ubuntu Unity Sees BIG CHANGES - Ubuntu Unity 23.04
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 มิ.ย. 2024
- Ubuntu Unity has seen significant progress both over the past six months since its last release as well as steadily over the past couple years.
0:00 Intro / Unity History
1:50 Nice Improvements Since 22.10
3:55 Long-Term Improvement - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
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Great video!
Please show examples of basic customisation in your reviews - hiding the dash, moving the taskbar, using two monitors, etc. It's such a common thing we do after installation and it would be nice to see how easy it is in each DE.
Thanks for the suggestion; that’s a really good point! Changing the background wasn’t enough? 😊
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Nice review. So, what IS your recommendation for the best new user distro?
Good question! For anyone coming from Windows, I honestly think Zorin OS is the best option these days. Linux Mint is the easy choice (and a good one) but I personally feel that Zorin better integrates support for Windows apps out-of-the-box if users should need them, and does a good job of recommending Linux alternatives to popular Windows apps.
For someone coming from macOS, everyone likes to recommend elementaryOS because it has a dock and top panel. But elementaryOS has some quirks (such as very few apps being in the App Centre by default) that make it hard to recommend for a new user. For macOS I think you’re less likely to find a direct default replacement (though many distros offer an option for a Mac-style layout, again, such as Zorin OS).
@@PlanetLinuxChannel Hmmm. I replied to you an hour or so ago and it appears that it didn't "take". I agree with you on this. Over the last couple years I've hopped fifty or more distros, deb-based, arch-based, Fedora, and a glance at SUSE and Gentoo. I originally began years ago with Mint, and here again I've returned to it as a distro that runs extremely well on everything I have from the 2-core Celeron I'm writing this on, to the Nitro 5 that's not out of warranty yet...just did a test drive there.
I did use Zorin briefly a year or so ago, and I was very impressed with the way their team slickened up running Windows programs. I just couldn't get the one Windows program I need to run on it, so I moved on. But it was very nice.
Since I've now found ways to run that Windows program on pretty much any distro, I think I'll take one of the super-cheap SSD's I recently got from Temu, swap it into this laptop (which is running Mint on another of those cheap SSD's), and see how it compares nowadays. I used to run XFCE on every distro I tried, but I found that Cinnamon is extremely competitive on resource usage and just feels and looks nicer to me, so I might transplant that in. I will say that Zorin has done a wonderful job with XFCE, so I guess experiments are in order. That's the fun of it!
Thank you for responding and have a great day.
@@PlanetLinuxChannel Zorin OS is still on Ubuntu 20.04. It's very outdated.
Very true. Though I’m not sure that matters too much to a lot of “everyday users” and universal package formats like Flatpak and Snap make it pretty easy to get recent versions of apps these days.
Still, the outdated base system is making it harder to recommend. Zorin 17 should be here soon, but as much as I admire the stability, their “we’ll ship it when it’s ready” approach is starting to become problematic.
Thanks to the both of you for the comments. Hope you’re enjoying your Linux journeys!
@@PlanetLinuxChannel Dive into Gnome or Unity ( although if it dropped gnome-software it might require that one bit of knowledge ). After all you are switching to a different OS. Just best install it in dual boot mode and try to give linux a chance. Once I moved I never wanted to go back to windows except for gaming and even that need was evaporated like water recently ;)
For wallpaper - solid color , black - still not available ? In KDE you have this option ...
I can’t currently check as I don’t have it installed right now, but does the dropdown in the Appearance settings not have an option for Solid Colour? Is black not an option?
If not, perhaps it can be done via the Unity Tweak Tool?
Unity was cool, it looked elegant and it came with the HUD, which I didn't use enough, but I was very excited about it and I wish I learned to take more advantage of it! After Unity, I switched to Mate, then XFCE. I kinda feel like Mate doesn't appeal to me anymore, but XFCE, on the other hand, is like that ex-GF you still love and want to go back to. Nowadays I'm a KDE Plasma user. I think Plasma is all you need, it's fast, lightweight, modern, full of features, very customizable and very traditional too. About Gnome, I like how it looks today, it's a very modern system with many cool attributes to it, but I've never really used it myself and I doubt it will satisfy my workflow. I'm willing to give it a try though, I just feel very comfortable using Plasma right now and at the same time I'd love to experience more tiling WM like dwm, Xmonad, etc. which I have little experience with. Maybe I should have children and make'em try all of those for me... 😮💨 I'll have to make some time to do all that. Anyway, I hope Unity keeps improving, I'd love to see more of it.
It’s great to have so many good options! I’ve also settled on KDE and have customized it into a workflow that works really well for me. I’ve always loved the global menu bar and HUD in Unity and have kind of recreated that for myself in KDE.
I personally like the aesthetic of modern GNOME apps-I know a lot of people don’t, but I appreciate the clean and consistent design. I’ve just fallen in love with the flexibility of KDE too much right now.
I’ve used Awesome WM in the past in order to try a tiling window manager, and I think it’s pretty cool once you figure it out, but it mainly just gave me ideas of how I could further streamline my workflow in KDE or something. (I thought about making some content on tiling WMs, but frankly, I’m no expert with them and there are other Linux creators that can and have provided far better content about them.)
Maybe your ex, XFCE, would be willing to have those kids with you?
While I used to use Unity, when they had it, I switched to Gnome and frankly - it's very similar, I kind of didn't even notice they switched.
Credit where it’s due; they did do a pretty good job of modifying the GNOME interface to be a smoother transition from Unity.
@@jakubrogacz6829 The problem back then with Gnome 3 was its performance, it was a rather heavy DE. Today Ubuntu provides a Gnome experience very similar to Unity, I gave a computer with Ubuntu to my father that had Unity, he used it for years. Then I thought it was time to update it, so I installed Manjaro with Gnome using the Unity look. He had a very easy transition and I should add that he is a man in his 60's without a CS or IT background.
@@willft520 yeah, linux is way past stage of being too difficult for regular people. Even I started using it not for my dev work ( although when I did use it for that, I cringe anytime someone programs c++ with windows, just pulling in libraries is pain there )
Cool
Thanks, glad you think so!
Underrated comment.
I actually wanted to use Ubuntu Unity but it's like the only distro that does not have my wifi working and also the sound isn't working. Wouldn't be a big deal but this laptop don't have ethernet.
Informative video. But are you.... pronouncing the silent 'g' in gnome?
you are the one who is wrong my friend
Ah yes, a debate as old as gnome itself. I believe it is in reference to GNU, which is pronounced like guh-new. So I THINK it’s supposed to have the hard G sound.
@@jonforhan9196 I'll remember that next time I buy a certain garden ornament, and try to ignore the shopkeeper's ridicule!
@@PlanetLinuxChannel I never saw it like the age-old GIF issue; most Unix / Linux developers, myself included, don't try and honour historical reasoning because a) it takes longer to say and b) it just sounds silly. No offence!
Fair enough. To each their own. I was belittled long ago for pronouncing it “incorrectly” so I’ve always said it with the g-sound since.
“Hi, I’d like to buy this lovely garden guh-nome” 😊
I used Unity for awhile, but moved to XFCE and stayed there for quite awhile. Now that I have a system with enough resources, it's KDE.
And easy enough to make XFCE look just like Unity. Add 2nd taskbar, put it on left side, and add icons, tweak to preference.... Take 1st taskbar, put it on top. Half the resources of Unity. Ubuntu MATE already comes with this layout of Unity also.
Over two versions, I had a single auto-sizing task bar bottom-center. It contained all my most-used icons, indicators and whisker menu, a lot like Elementary. Though I liked XFCE a lot, I found KDE a lot more smooth with Suspend and other energy star events. There's lots of options in most D.E. -- just a matter of finding them. I didn't see much point with cinnamon, however some like it.
KDE has been my jam for a while now (can make it look and function pretty close to Unity too).
This goes back a couple of months.. My dump-fished Toshiba laptop is currently running LXDE, as it's good for the limited resources. Puzzling that manufacturers were instilling 6G of memory, as only four ends up being dual-channel. At least it's 64-bit. Quite a few distributions have dumped 32-bit coverage.
@stevejohnson1321 Yeah, being 64-bit these days really helps. The 6GB of RAM is troubling (I bought some Dell office PC around 8 or 9 years ago that came with 12GB; again, being sticks of 4 and 8, it doesn’t really work to its fullest potential).
I am back on GNU/Linux with Ubuntu 24.04 and... it looks beautiful, but I feel like it also doesn't always make sense. The dock, the upper empty and useless bar... Unity felt futuristic instead, and I think I'll try this flavor instead and see if it still fits with me. Otherwise, I might go with KDE for the first time, but still feels "bloated".
Unity does hover a lot of perks and it is a nice, refreshing interface.
I’ve personally found KDE to be surprisingly light on resources these days. Yes, it has a LOT of options, but it’s also quite snappy, especially if you increase the Animation Speed slider (I believe it’s in the “home” page of the settings).
The "G" in Gnome is silent. For some reason a lot of people say GUH-nome or GEE-nome with sounds really weird when talking about it.
Not for the DE. The word gnome has a silent G, yes, but the project is pronounced with the g.
The reason a lot of people pronounce the desktop with the G is because it’s referring to the GNU project, which is often spoken as “guh-new”, hence “guh-nome”.
I prefer the aesthetics of the old unity dash from 16.04. This new side panel just doesn't feel right.
That’s fair. I’d have to see if there’s a way to modify / revert it. Perhaps in the Unity Tweak Tool?
Honestly I'll never understand why so many people hate Unity, it was and still is my all time favorite desktop environment. I use Arch and the current port of Unity is 7.6 which isn't very usable, so I ended up forking Openbox and customized it to make it look and function like Unity
Nice! It’s surprising how feasible it is to make numerous desktops (Openbox, KDE, MATE, etc.) look and function much like Unity. And the fact that some distro maintainers even go out of their way to make pre-defined Unity-style layouts means that at least some people must love it (myself included)!
If this new Unity 7.7 makes its way to Arch, hopefully it’ll be more usable!
Most of that hate stems from early releases. It was slow and buggy. Once it earned that reputation it never really went away. Canonical really should have waited another year before releasing it.
Yeah, I really came to love it. I’d say by the time of around 14.04 it was honestly really solid and quite fast.
not a fan of dash redesign tbh...sad
It’s definitely quite a change. I suppose they figure it makes better use of screen space, but it loses a lot of its 3D overlay sort of look that it had before.
It's alright, but the borders are gone. Why does everyone hate borders on windows and frames these days?
Ubuntu unity is nice but as I can see its maintainers have started ''experimenting'' with top panel and made it less usable and much uglier. For example, they've added space on both left and right corners, made it bigger and for what reason?
Yeah, I’m not entirely sure why. Some of it might be a byproduct of trying to get modern theming to work well with it. And I think they’ve had to completely swap out the indicators at the top right as the ones Ubuntu used back in the day don’t work well anymore; so they’re a completely different indicator platform now
It’s a bit of a patch-up job to keep everything working as intended, but at least there seems to be concerted and continuing development effort.
Looks like there are some major issues getting the panel integration to work. Maximized Firefox has two sets of window controls, Synaptic isn't using the global menu, and the transition between opaque title bars and the transparent top panel is really jarring. Hopefully those bugs get fixed.
@pikachuchujelly7628 I hope so. I imagine a lot of work has to go into maintaining that functionality.
I should definitely check back in on Ubuntu Unity again.
@@PlanetLinuxChannel I managed to replicate the Unity workflow and UI with XFCE, including the integrated title bar.
@pikachuchujelly7628 That’s awesome! I’ve managed to get a similar workflow with KDE as well.
this dudes head is longer than florida
I’m offended that you compared it to Florida! 😀
Unity (and Budgie and Gnome) are very slow. I tried all under UTM Qemu on my M1 Mac, and while XFce and Mate were usable, none of these other ones were. The reason why I'm mentioning emulation here is because that's how you can see if something is truly fast, or slow. If you're using bare metal on modern, fast x86 CPUs, you won't see a difference between any of these environments. They're all fast-enough. But under emulation, you can truly see who's fast, and how's a turtle. And Unity was a turtle. Instead, on all such comparisons on youtube, reviewers only mention RAM. Which usually ranges anywhere from 500 to 1.2 GB depending on the DE. That's nothing, and of no consequence, when 8 GB is the norm, and you can buy a 16 GB laptop for $600. But actual speed can be felt more, if the CPU you're using is a Celeron or a U laptop CPU.
That’s a good point. I guess they figure most computers are fast enough these days and if it is older or lower-end then you can use a lighter-weight distro that uses XFCE or something.
I am surprised Unity is as slow as something like GNOME though. I would have thought it would be a bit more streamlined.
Well it is, untill you are switching from the w-word system ;) Then you can take the least optimized distro you can find and it will be blazing fast.
@@jakubrogacz6829 Not true. Linux users need to stop this 25 year old myth that Windows is slow, or unstable. This is not the era of Windows 95/98/ME. Modern NT-based Windows is both fast, and stable. In fact, Windows is way, way more stable than Linux desktops (the kernel is stable, but the DEs and apps on top are NOT -- crashes happen constantly). MacOS, particularly since 2018 when they rewrote part of the kernel and fs, is very stable and fast too. Windows is of course targeted by malware more, simply because that's where most users reside at. Linux uses less RAM overall than Win11, but it also does less on the desktop, so it's to be expected. Windows has a lot of compatibility layers and D3D and other system support that warrant the ram usage being higher. When some hackers made Tiny11 recently (a strip down version of Windows), some apps and games stopped working. So it is the way it is, because it has to, given their position. So, let's be a bit objective here please, and not fanboys. I use all 3 OSes, for different reasons, so I see how they perform daily.
@@EugeniaLoli are you talking about windows on UTM QEMU on your M1 mac?
@@hjf3022 First comment was about UTM on Mac, my second comment was a reply to Jakub who wanted to badmouth Windows.
God i hated Unity... always installed KDE right after Ubuntu installation
I’ve been loving KDE lately as well!
Why did you install Ubuntu and then KDE, instead of just installing Kubuntu for example?
@@angelsalinas8697 cause it’s Linux and you always do everything the hard way
@@westtell4 😄
Unity still sucks and you have no idea why
Oh? I'd love to hear why. Everyone has such differing opinions about Unity...it sure was / is controversial.
Please explain why Unity sucks.
I like it
Yes, please explain why Unity is bad. It's not for everybody, but I personally like it better than Cinnamon or stock GNOME 44.
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