I enjoy taking a piss at Firas as much as the next guy, but he's not actually wrong in this clip. He gets the 3 types mixed up and height has probably nothing to do with it, but other than that, what's wrong with what he said?
"Endomorph or ectomorp whatever I could be wrong." ~firas Joe ~ "you see thats the problem with this conversation is that neither one of us are biolgists"
actually it's worse than that.. the concept comes from old psychology theories, not biology. And Joe Rogan is more correct in the differences between the three types.
@@AxxLAfriku ich bin schokiert von der universellen vertretung dieses kanales überall auf youtube, seit jahren schon. du bist wahrhaft der letzte *echte* youtuber
No one (with maybe some weird genetic exceptions) is destined to be some obese blob based on muh genes so I agree on that. However, if you don't think genes play a role in how your body reacts to exercise and food then you need to look at genetics. West Africans vs even East Africans vs Nordic Whites all have predispositions for certain body types. Genes do play a role no doubt.
chadiwack "most definitely afterall histidine is an amino acid bro and cant have mucus without histidine shout to Joenardo "Mucus Champ" Rogaine hed probably be a buck fifteen if you drained the mucus out of his body but then hed have to relinquish the belt has Joenardo even heard of anti-histamine braaaaaaaaaa got damn Joenardo "Mucus Brain" Rogaine punch out get yourself together and redeem yourself afterwards you need a break braaaaaaaaa"- Joenardo Rogaines liver "Hey Joenardo Rogaines Liver cut the guy some slack its not easy being stuck in the saddle this long especially when you know youve made poor decisions and have been reduced to a muppet baby Joenardos got a good heart and heart trumps liver anyday he just fell for the trap and cant get out"- The General
Testomorph should be a thing. People who get lean and pack on muscle because they run TRT or do cycles of testosterone, even tho they naturally have a different body type.
It would be amazing to have Jeff on the podcast while Eddie Bravo goes crazy on some conspiracy theories. Jeff sitting there with a straight face wondering if he entered some kind of cult.
To explain this in layman’s terms generally: 1.Ectomorphs are smaller boned, longer muscle insertions, higher metabolism individuals. Mesomorphs are medium sized bones, full muscles insertions, and middle of the road metabolism. Endomorphs are larger boned, shorter muscle insertions, with slower metabolism. In fitness this generally equates to: Endomorphs have a harder time building muscle, have to eat more, but because of the smaller joints, as they build muscle they will look great! Lots of flare to the muscles, very ascetic look because of the longer muscle insertions, but it will be difficult to maintain as they can lose muscle quickly. 2 Mesomorph like mentioned is the athletic physic, even as a kid you can see this body. Many children who start sports early (3-5yrs)develop this way. If active with little effort Mesomorphs will always have a muscular look. If sedentary, they usually look just like the average person. If trained they can get jacked, and have the ability to gain or lose weight by pretty much diet alone. Endomorphs, well every top power lifter in the world is an Endomorph. Larger boned, thicker waist, back hips and thighs, easier to gain weight, (fat and muscle) and generally overall bigger than most, weight and height. Note there is every variance under the sun when it comes to humans, but these three categories, do fit most humans. I know this video is older but it came across my feed so Joe seemed confused on the subject so here is some clarification. Cheers! and for Joe I am a biologist.
I'm 6'3" and was 158lb. Got tired of the skinny comments so I started working out every single day. 3 years later at 210lbs my friends mind's were blown
Jeff CavaLIEre uses fake weights while claiming he's actually lifting said amount. Due to that, it's also more likely that Jeff uses low doses of TRT and isn't telling anyone. Jeff uses pictures of guys on steroids to sell his own brand of supplements. Jeff CavaLIEre is a conman.
@@Evl.28239 He's talking about biology and hes talking out his behind. The guys first comment was just agro saying its about fighting when the discussion doesnt involve fighting at all.
The somatotypes are usually characterised by shoulders and hips, not weight. Mesomorph - wide shoulders, narrow hips. Ectomorph - Narrow hips and shoulders. Endomorph - narrow shoulders, wide hips.
I watched this whole podcast and let me tell you what I've garnered from it...Firas is a knowitall and manages to be wrong a lot of the times... incredible.
I agree!! Definitely a know it all. He also does this thing a lot when he doesn't know the name of something, he goes " sorry I can't remember it now, though its in the tip of my tongue, because my mind is tired as I just came from training..." or some kind of similar excuse like that! Lol! He has many excuses prepared!
You don't have to be fat to be an endomorph, Infact it has more to do with agility to put on weight, whether it beat muscle or fat. Like Tyron. He's an endomorph. He's not ripped, but he has a lot of muscle that he packs on without trying.
I'm an endomorph and what he's saying is true. Although I'm naturally fat, when I started working out I immediately gained muscle. Although the fat is very hard to loose but the good thing is the muscle is just as hard to loose. For me to look aesthetic I have to go on an aggressively low carolic diet which also consists of alot of protein. But if I eat like a normal person and still work out I'll prolly look like fat Thor but not as fat 😂
There’s no such thing as “ naturally fat “ fat is a substance that’s easily melted by calorie deficit anybody can lose fat but people will find a million excuse when it comes to diet and weight loss.
@@romelc6347 i guess you dont know about genetics playing to a persons body type. And have you experienced being fat? Im not pro fat or any bullshit like that but im certainly bigger than normal people and retain fat more than the average person. Yes diet will fix it and working out but I definitely have it harder to lose than the body types with normal metabolism
@@gm836 The ones who look the best at the end are endomorphs and mesomorphs. Ectomorphs have the worst bodybuilding genetics but on the bright side, can eat whatever they want and still stay super ripped.
I used to compete in true natural bodybuilding but I gained 20 some pounds and couldn't get rid of it for years.Then 2 months ago I did 10 two day fasts in a month. I lost 21 lbs and now Im ripped. Start with one day fasts to get used to it and move to 2 day or longer and youll thank me later. Best, fastest and cheapest way. And, it allows our body a chance to heal. Research it for yourself.
@@mikeyd1216 First of all, consider it a workout for your willpower. You will get hungry, but results is what drives us, and no other way gives you faster results. And Ive done it all. Actually the low/good carb eating made me hungrier than just fasting. When I started fasting, I failed twice trying to do 48 hour fasts, couldnt go past 24 hours. Then it gets easier, your body gets used to it as you do it more and more. Trust me, start doing fasts and in a short couple months youll be surprised how easily you can do 2 day fasts. I actually like the hunger feeling now. The body runs through all the glucose/sugar after 16 hours of eating, less if it was low carb. Then it starts dissolving fat with bile. It also heals itself, a process called Autophagy. Google it
Guy is almost spot on. You can be a mix of all the body types, your not just one. I’ve always told people in a perfect scenario you would be low on the ectomorph scale and high in the mesomorph/endomorph so you can pack on some good weight on your frame. Like he said everyone can get ripped, endomorphs might have to work a little harder and diet a bit longer but a ripped endomorph dominant body type will look similar to a ripped mesomorph dominant body type
Ecto has its advantages. Ideal is literally just meso. Endo might get huge asf with good muscles, but they will lack in performance and might have great explosive power but not enough stamina/cardio. An ectomorph will struggle hard to gain but if they are committed over a long period of time, they will get bigger, will be forced to eat and train like madman just to maintain their body, won't lose much cardio since due to being an ecto they can control it if they want more strength or eat a bit less and immediately lose weight and have better cardio. Mesomorph is the only ideal one because it doesn't even have to work hard to gain or lose.
@@cloudyns that’s me I gained 25lbs from 14-18 every year of highschool just playing football basketball and lifting year round. There’s truth to it, I burn out easy but you can train through it.
I sat beside Firas at a UFC event where he wasn't coaching he was just in the crowd and he gave some of the most precise play by play to the group he was sitting with it was so phenomenal for a fight nerd like me to hear. He called the K.O by Jimmo (RIP) before the fight even started amongst many other little tidbits. Then was super nice when i asked him for a pic he even propped his arm up on my shoulder to make it a much better pic man telling you it was a fight geeks dream come true! What a great asset to MMA.
@@flipf615 let’s set the stage here, I’m minding my own business just had a great dinner and preparing myself to train later on and my phone blinks and I see a notification from someone that says “ya sure” on a very basic but 100% story that I took the time to write because I enjoy interacting with MMA fans about the sport. Weird but if that story seems like a lie you just live a very ordinary life full of envy and disappointment.
TrEVILlyan 95 it was a rating system based on basically appearance. I could make up a body type rating system called the jacked, skinny or fat scale and it would be equally as worthless.
An Aussie except your scale doesn't have any strong holdings that originated in the criminal justice system, it may be a pseudoscience, but it does have some credibility in regards to grouping people
I'm an endomorph, thick with muscle. It's definitely harder for me to lose fat, but it is easy to build muscle. I'm currently working out 5 times a week, 7 months in and lost 16lbs, 206 to 190 and I'm 5'5"
Ectomorph: Lean and long, with difficulty building muscle. Endomorph: Big, high body fat, often pear-shaped, with a high tendency to store body fat. Mesomorph: Muscular and well-built, with a high metabolism and responsive muscle cells.
There's no doubt there are several different body types. He's talking about the main 3 ones, but most people fall between one body type and another. I don't know where he's getting this short stocky guys always being endomorph thing from though. Pretty sure height is irrelevant to body type. You can be the same height as another person and be short and stocky or short and skinny. Lol.
I'm definitely an ectomorph. When I was in my teens/early 20s I couldn't put anything on. Now that my metabolism has slowed a bit, I'm 28 now, I am finally starting to see the gains I've been working on for years. I have been exercise all the time for at least 10 years now.
@@urdad6882 Look I made plenty of gains, just that having an extremely fast metabolism, these gains weren't as fast as someone with a different body type. I trained with elite coaches and athletes and always had good nutrition. As an ectomorph, once your metabolism slows a bit, you see much better gains. That's all I was trying to say, I learned fantastic technique and people would make fun of my diet habits (I'd bring lunches and snacks every day while they would go to MacDonalds). It's just that different body types gain differently at different stages in their lives. There were gains, just that looking back the gains are coming much quicker now.
I was the same, bullied as a teen for my beanpole physique. I was very fit and healthy but never much muscle. By my late 20’s I got to 15 I was over 200lbs and almost ripped, you could see part of a six pack but I wasn’t aiming for definition. Unfortunately various personal issues stopped me from staying that way but one day…
Somatotypes were designated by a psychological study to determine if body types had a consistent impact on a person's personality. For example, are people normally jolly? They were debunked within a few months of being proposed. They are not taken seriously by anyone who knows what they are. Your muscle insertions and limb lengths are determined by genetics and your doctor will never classify you by your somatotype. You would be considered underweight, healthy, overweight, or obese. These somatotypes were not created for, expected to be used for, or useful for any type of fitness endeavor. People become because of a slow metabolism, injuries, glandular issues, overeating, etc. People are skinny due to fast metabolisms, low calorie intake, exercising often, etc. Mesomorphs could be anyone who eats a decent diet with a decent metabolism, someone who has a great diet and workout routine with a slow metabolism, or someone who eats a lot and has a fast metabolism. At any point in your life you could go from being slow to fast, weak to strong, slim to large, or fat to ripped and it doesn't matter what the fuck your somatotype is. 1: Eat right 2:Train hard 3:Sleep well 4:Stop making stupid fucking excuses about your body when you don't even know what you are talking about. If you believe shit like this matters then you clearly have not done your research and I don't even think you are educated enough to make a real excuse. Here comes the onslaught of people who don't know what they are talking about but will still try to tell me I'm wrong without reading my whole post or looking anything up.
...Somatotypes are not excuses. They are body types. Some girls are 5'8 and they have tiny feet tiny hands small head very narrow shoulders and are naturally small. They have a tall skinny model girl look and even if they gained weight, they can never change their bone structure. It has nothing to do with the choices they make. Then another girl can be 5'8 and built like a linebacker, wide shoulders, naturally heavier, big feet, big hands, thick wrists and weighs way more than the other girl, but isn't fat and the same exact height. If she tried to weigh the same as the tiny model girl, she'd end up in the hospital. Being big boned is not the same thing as being fat. Big bones exist regardless of whether you are fat or not. This is what people mean by somatotypes. People can have drastically bigger and smaller bone structure at the same height. Fuck off with your dumb ass motivational crap.
Lol Joe was 100% right about the Endomorph and Mesomorph and the other guy has basically the same understanding of it, and was just confusing what Joe’s idea of it was.
There is no 3 categories. As you said "they fall on a continuum" or a spectrum. Your genes and chromosomes don't know categories, it's just a combination of all sorts. Genetics makes a big difference and can determine your metabolism.
From what i know, Joe I is right: Ecto: doesn't get fat, has hard time gaining fat, generally tall with long limbs and good resistance. Meso: gets muscles easily, have wide shoulders. Endo: gets fat easily. At least for men i think It works this way. Regardless, no one Is 100% Meso, Echto or Endo, we are all a mixture of those three to a certain degree. Anyone can get a good physic, people who tend to be at the extremes of the spectrum, Endo and especially Ehto, will have a hard time getting it. The method to build muscles is pretty much the same, somatotypes determine just your potential and how hard will it be to get results.
Im not a car mechanic or expert but i still know enough about it to talk about certain topics at length with anyone. There is no school where they feed you special knowledge that an average person can't learn on their own.
Future of the West Podcast if thats the case then why does boxing and mma require different weight classes? Obviously there is just people with different body types. Anthony Joshua and Manny Pacquiao for example lol
I come from the weightlifting world, it's pretty well known that yes if their willing anyone healthy can get pretty ripped. Putting on allot of muscle is a different story much more difficult. That's why you see many more people with abs sub 200 pounds than mass monsters.
I love how people deny up and down that these three different body types matter because they aren't real. It's only those who are on both ends of the spectrum who truly understand what it's like to either struggle or gain weight. For me, I'm a total endomorph. I was kinda chubby growing up, but I put on muscle so fast I got stretch marks. When I go to the gym, I almost always get a good pump. My arms are thick, my chest is thick, and my stomach is soft. I eat a lower carb diet than most people yet I'm still chubby. I've got lots of muscle and I could put on more if I really went for it, but the weight just doesn't go.
I’m exactly the same in march 2021 I was 98 kg & now I am 70kg & still have a lot of fat on my body mainly body fat & im 5,11 im trying to add on muscle any tips on how to lose the body fat & gain muscle mass my goal is to be 85kg with 22% body fat I am 29.5% body fat at the moment
@@BoxOf0121it’s hard to do both, but it’s mostly down to thermodynamics, and having enough protein available for your body to turn into muscle(which it can do up to 5 times a day). Look into coach Gregg on TH-cam, he really gives it to you Barney style.
@@BoxOf0121Good High Carb High Protein diet mixed with exercise. Gotta eat a few hundred more calories than your recommended intake, also gotta burn those calories in activity. No exceptions. You'll have to buckle down and discipline yourself to an alarming degree, but the results will be worth it.
yes but not yes. if youve got a small bone frame youre gonna stuggle WAY more to put on muscle. my wrists are maybe 4 cm in diameter at 23 that makes me an ectomorph regardless of the debunking. i know that sounds retarded but TRUST ME in my case at least it applies
@Jacob Monnin no, you don't. Nobody is above the laws of thermodynamics. There's no such thing as a hard gainer. Calorie intake versus deficit always reigns supreme, unless they literally have a tapeworm or something like a section of their small intestine removed.
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- Master Roshi.
Roshi is a goddamn beast.
@Victor Makris hes both I guess
Victor Makris roshi is god
joe should get master roshi on the show, his story about how he used nofap to get ripped for the TOP would be super interesting
This man finna get it
we're reaching levels of bro-science that shouldn't even be possible
It's not even bro science. It's almost like he's just making stuff up as he goes along
👏🤣🤣
This guy is full of shit man
Facts
I enjoy taking a piss at Firas as much as the next guy, but he's not actually wrong in this clip. He gets the 3 types mixed up and height has probably nothing to do with it, but other than that, what's wrong with what he said?
"Neither one of us is a biologist. That's the problem with this conversation." Love this 👌
Jacky William Which is why they are talking bullshit. Somatotypes are a myth, it was made up a long time ago and is proven to be bullshit now.
You're a loser get the fuck out of here with your negative bullshit.
@@Repsforjesus67 same applies to you.
@@Repsforjesus67 agreed. My HPER (PE) teacher told me that when we were studying. Ignore these guys who don't know shit.
Lmfao
Endomorph, ectomorph doesn’t really matter because you’ll never be a mightymorph in power ranger and for that reason we can all be sad.
Lol
Savage 😅
Thanks for ruining my existence, dammit!
That is sad 😭 💯👍🏼🤣
Man, fuck you. Ruined my day
I'm a Voldemorph
Underated comment
Ahahahahahhahahaha
That's Awesome.
Bob 1 you killed the joke
Avacada Ketodava
Joe needs to get Jeff Cavaliere on. Or Jeff needs to get Joe on his channel.
Yes please
@@gman3638 I was surprised to see that Jeff has more subs . hence he should get Joe on his channel.
@@cuzz63 ahah very true, but I'd rather see Jeff on the podcast to hear him speak
@@gman3638 makes sense...got to wonder how long it would take before Jeff takes his shirt off and whips out a marker.
@@cuzz63 😂😂 too funny
Im FatAssMorph
And you're proud of being fat?
Pound for Pound, Pound Guy.
😂😂
Lmao 😂
Dan Maler bet he beats your ass unless he starves himself
This conversation in a nutshell
Joe: So this is x
Firas: I would say he is y
IMPECCABLE SUM UP LMAO
Underrated comment
The whiff of bro science is strong in this one...
Absolute stench
Man I can't stop laughing 😂😂😂
@@disrespectthemwomensubjuga5471 What's with the childish username? Are you 13 and sad?
@@fabioq6916 ever heard of patrice o'neal?
Then you will get the reference
I’m a Xenomorph.
Sal C lol
Sal C I'm a penimorph
Run GSp!
I’m an animorph
I'm dead😂
Have you tried getting ripped on DMT
Lmaoooooo
ArnoldFTW97 I heard elk is really good for getting ripped
only 5 min workout hmmm
😂😭
😭
"Endomorph or ectomorp whatever I could be wrong." ~firas
Joe ~ "you see thats the problem with this conversation is that neither one of us are biolgists"
actually it's worse than that.. the concept comes from old psychology theories, not biology. And Joe Rogan is more correct in the differences between the three types.
These are NOT the nutritional experts you were looking for - Obiwan Kenobe
This was the perfect use of this meme
Kenobi*
Lmao "Kenobe"
Is he African now :D
Do you have a link to his channel?
Is this guy talking about Pokemons or what?
Feralz Walk the halls of Valhalla, my friend. I bless you.
No
“Pokemons” lol
Digimons
Power rangers
When did DJ Khaled lose all that weight?!!😂👏👏👏
Valar Morghulis I love how Khaled works out and always looks the same lol
Valar Morghulis He did a workout, then another one, then another one, then another one....
@@higherpower254 correction, he did a workout took a nap than another on, and anonther one and another one
Lifting weights does nothing but hurt me my brother! You played yourself... Never play yourself!
Barry Deegan 😂😂😂😂🍑 another one
I’m a million percent ectomorth, I can eat anything and sit on my ass for a year and don’t put on a pound 😂
I gain a pound by just looking at fries
I eat lie a pig and still cant get a pound but i am skinny
Yoooo felt that
Lol couple of my friends are like you and I hate them for it
The body types have been debunked MULTIPLE times
Take a shot every time you hear "morph".
R.I.P bro lol
Tried taking a bongrip for every ectomorph. Ended up puking
I morphed into a butterfly
Or a pushup. U'l be an endomorph by the end.
I'd be dead
Joe “Those Mesomorphs always want to strangle you” Rogan
i am a king
@@AxxLAfriku ich bin schokiert von der universellen vertretung dieses kanales überall auf youtube, seit jahren schon.
du bist wahrhaft der letzte *echte* youtuber
@@Jay-bz3df wie weisst du ob axxl ueberhaupt deutsch kann
@@ashley-fk6dp junge axxl ist eine legende youtubes.
That awkward moment when Rogan is an endomorph but you don't want to tell him
SSJ Goku Black fan channel yeah I've never even heard of it before but it seemed like Joe fit all their criteria of one
was thinking the same thing
No one (with maybe some weird genetic exceptions) is destined to be some obese blob based on muh genes so I agree on that. However, if you don't think genes play a role in how your body reacts to exercise and food then you need to look at genetics. West Africans vs even East Africans vs Nordic Whites all have predispositions for certain body types. Genes do play a role no doubt.
Harry Paul If you agree then by default you’re agreeing that there are excuses.
MrSwagger151 Sounds like pussy endomorph talk to me
Joe Rogans Podcast taught me that, just because someone is an expert in one field, doesn’t make them an expert in all fields.
Bro science is strong in this one
damn DJ Khaled looking fine these days
Hes fat again
jack Jones okaaayyy
jack Jonesstfu
jack Jones u get no pussy bruv
@@awgevs6209 says the virgins white knighting some girl over the internet
"Ectomorph" sounds like the scientific term for a ghost.
Logan Owens ectocooler
I think joe said one time he got high off of an ectomorphs ectoplasm subcutaneously
Somebody blows their nose and you want to keep it.
chadiwack "most definitely afterall histidine is an amino acid bro and cant have mucus without histidine shout to Joenardo "Mucus Champ" Rogaine hed probably be a buck fifteen if you drained the mucus out of his body but then hed have to relinquish the belt has Joenardo even heard of anti-histamine braaaaaaaaaa got damn Joenardo "Mucus Brain" Rogaine punch out get yourself together and redeem yourself afterwards you need a break braaaaaaaaa"- Joenardo Rogaines liver
"Hey Joenardo Rogaines Liver cut the guy some slack its not easy being stuck in the saddle this long especially when you know youve made poor decisions and have been reduced to a muppet baby Joenardos got a good heart and heart trumps liver anyday he just fell for the trap and cant get out"- The General
Huh!,
Joe “Neither of us are scientists” Rogan
I'm bout to get ripped....Tomorrow tho, todays a cheat day,.
Me and you bud. Lol
tfw every day is cheat day
Sure thing, brah, let's trade
Gym closed on sundays
My life in a nutshell
Testomorph should be a thing. People who get lean and pack on muscle because they run TRT or do cycles of testosterone, even tho they naturally have a different body type.
People are overthinking it. Work out and eat, that’s all you have to do.
Yeah but everything is in the details
Docta_diaz That’s actually so wrong. If you eat a lot and work out hard, you will get big. Easy.
Fuck you I eat 800cals everyday and workout every other day and I can’t lose the last 10kg I want to
Huh You have hit a plateau. Eat more for a week and then hit it again. Or, go for ECA stack or a clen cycle. Both are not steroids just to clarify.
Wrong
Joe : Endomorph... short bulky.. Ectomorph... hard gainer, lanky
Christian Bale : Hold my batrang
Christian bale has insane self discipline.
@@chrisnga6910 and a lot of drugs and doctors and chefs
Endomorph - Daniel Cormier
Mesomorph - Francis Nganou
EctoMorph - Nate Diaz
Vinny LT Cormier is just fat lmfao
Francis is not a mesomorph
@@tanisj2470 how do you figure?
Nate is skinny fat lol
@@alvojnikovic2171 LOL.. he does hold a lot of fat, but he's still a super athlete.
Joe "Endomorph all day" Rogan
He loves whales.
Get jeff cavaliere on here! He actually knows what he’s talking about
mondaywar Jeff Cav is for douche bags
Storminmormn6 you’re just a pussy
It would be amazing to have Jeff on the podcast while Eddie Bravo goes crazy on some conspiracy theories. Jeff sitting there with a straight face wondering if he entered some kind of cult.
Beetlejuice depends what you’re working on. He has loads of different programmes.
This quote aged terribly
0:12 "I trained thousands of people .... he trained him self" 💀💀💀💀
Joe: Ectomorph looks like a skinny dork.
Jamie: Calm down Joe, you are on TRT.
Rakshit Rao hahaha
Yes! Lmao that's the best
Brown_GroundWalker Doesn’t that apply to anyone over the age of 30?
Brown_GroundWalker Pretty sure it does since older people have a slower metabolism than young people.
@Chandu That has nothing to do with what I said.
I am an Animorph
Gabe Johansson made my day bro
Fucking furry
🤣
Lmao
Damn I feel old now
“I go with the endomorph [ladies] all day”😂 I second this
Asf! Lol
Endomorph doesn’t need to be a girl
I third this lol
From that diagram yes, in reality when you see a true big Endomorph - absolutely not
@@James-yy4vl true big anything is a no for me. Fatomorphs kind of disgust me.
To explain this in layman’s terms generally:
1.Ectomorphs are smaller boned, longer muscle insertions, higher metabolism individuals. Mesomorphs are medium sized bones, full muscles insertions, and middle of the road metabolism. Endomorphs are larger boned, shorter muscle insertions, with slower metabolism. In fitness this generally equates to: Endomorphs have a harder time building muscle, have to eat more, but because of the smaller joints, as they build muscle they will look great! Lots of flare to the muscles, very ascetic look because of the longer muscle insertions, but it will be difficult to maintain as they can lose muscle quickly. 2 Mesomorph like mentioned is the athletic physic, even as a kid you can see this body. Many children who start sports early (3-5yrs)develop this way. If active with little effort Mesomorphs will always have a muscular look. If sedentary, they usually look just like the average person. If trained they can get jacked, and have the ability to gain or lose weight by pretty much diet alone. Endomorphs, well every top power lifter in the world is an Endomorph. Larger boned, thicker waist, back hips and thighs, easier to gain weight, (fat and muscle) and generally overall bigger than most, weight and height. Note there is every variance under the sun when it comes to humans, but these three categories, do fit most humans. I know this video is older but it came across my feed so Joe seemed confused on the subject so here is some clarification. Cheers! and for Joe I am a biologist.
This deserves more likes
Nice explanation but i don't think it has anything to do with height
I'm 6'3" and was 158lb. Got tired of the skinny comments so I started working out every single day. 3 years later at 210lbs my friends mind's were blown
6’3 and i was 152 2 months ago. I’m now 168, 210 would be a dream
I was 6'1 and 140 in highschool. That was 1994. I'm 6'2" and 215 now. I still have people telling me I'm too skinny lol.
@@YOUDIRTYlilLIaR lol skinny would be like 170. 200 is optimal
They're telling you you're too skinny because almost everyone today is fat. That's a perfect weight for your height.
Damn man
Yes please get Jeff Cavaliere on the show, that would be an intriguing conversation
Joe: So Jeff... when did you start using drugs to get ripped?
Jeff: Yes.
Jeff CavaLIEre uses fake weights while claiming he's actually lifting said amount. Due to that, it's also more likely that Jeff uses low doses of TRT and isn't telling anyone. Jeff uses pictures of guys on steroids to sell his own brand of supplements. Jeff CavaLIEre is a conman.
@@ab.7272 For a guy supposedly in great shape, I’d put Rogan right there with Chuck Liddell, like he’d never seen a gym….😂😂
This guy and his broscience
he trained legends. shut up he ain't talking about bodybuilding he is talking about fighting
@@mohamedtarek-cy2wl my dude u good?
@@jackrush2010 hes speaking facts tho lmao
@@Evl.28239 He's talking about biology and hes talking out his behind. The guys first comment was just agro saying its about fighting when the discussion doesnt involve fighting at all.
The somatotypes are usually characterised by shoulders and hips, not weight.
Mesomorph - wide shoulders, narrow hips.
Ectomorph - Narrow hips and shoulders.
Endomorph - narrow shoulders, wide hips.
I watched this whole podcast and let me tell you what I've garnered from it...Firas is a knowitall and manages to be wrong a lot of the times... incredible.
ctdvargas yeah he’s a bit of a dumbass.
Yeah he looks like a know it all type of body
I agree!! Definitely a know it all. He also does this thing a lot when he doesn't know the name of something, he goes " sorry I can't remember it now, though its in the tip of my tongue, because my mind is tired as I just came from training..." or some kind of similar excuse like that! Lol! He has many excuses prepared!
Firas is naturally skinny guy come on..
Yup, I can see that. A lot of the things he was saying weren’t checking out. Glad I’m not the only one that caught it.
This would be a better conversation if Firas didn't confuse the body types as well.
What do you mean "as well". Firas is the only person that confuses the body types in that conversation.
Edson Barboza - mesomorph
Adesanya - ectomorph
Derrick Lewis - endomorph
You don't have to be fat to be an endomorph, Infact it has more to do with agility to put on weight, whether it beat muscle or fat. Like Tyron. He's an endomorph. He's not ripped, but he has a lot of muscle that he packs on without trying.
I would say Francis Ngannou and Yoel Romero are better examples of a mesomorph.
@@frosty2.010 Tyson was shredded to the gills in the mid 90's.
I'm an endomorph and what he's saying is true. Although I'm naturally fat, when I started working out I immediately gained muscle. Although the fat is very hard to loose but the good thing is the muscle is just as hard to loose. For me to look aesthetic I have to go on an aggressively low carolic diet which also consists of alot of protein. But if I eat like a normal person and still work out I'll prolly look like fat Thor but not as fat 😂
Dude. Same 😂
Im endomorph too and what you said seems the same for me.
The whole endo/ecto/mesomorph bullshit is complete broscience.
There’s no such thing as “ naturally fat “ fat is a substance that’s easily melted by calorie deficit anybody can lose fat but people will find a million excuse when it comes to diet and weight loss.
@@romelc6347 i guess you dont know about genetics playing to a persons body type. And have you experienced being fat? Im not pro fat or any bullshit like that but im certainly bigger than normal people and retain fat more than the average person. Yes diet will fix it and working out but I definitely have it harder to lose than the body types with normal metabolism
Georges thinks it's the aliens taking his fat away
The-BXR the aliens should shrink that boulder head of his😁
Presence MAN SAID BOULDER 😂😂😂😂😂
Haha I almost forgot about his fear of aliens. I almost choked reading this comment.
Is this doctor who
Joe laying it down, men like women with some meat on their bones
💯💯💯💯💯
not obese but not anorexic
I like both. Skinny chicks ride dick like they're cowgirls performing at a rodeo. With a larger lady i get to feel like the cowboy 🤠 lol
meat or fat? there's a difference
"neither one of us are biologists, that's the problem with this conversation." Lmao
Im an ectomorph, I’ve been working out consistently for half a year now. Very slow progress but the progress is there. We really have to work hard.
You’ll look the best at the end tho.
@@gm836 The ones who look the best at the end are endomorphs and mesomorphs. Ectomorphs have the worst bodybuilding genetics but on the bright side, can eat whatever they want and still stay super ripped.
@@H.K.5 I’m an ectomorph but we move. No excuses.
@@H.K.5 those things are myths
@@MontamZoo they are used to explain different in build and metabolism to novices
I used to compete in true natural bodybuilding but I gained 20 some pounds and couldn't get rid of it for years.Then 2 months ago I did 10 two day fasts in a month. I lost 21 lbs and now Im ripped.
Start with one day fasts to get used to it and move to 2 day or longer and youll thank me later. Best, fastest and cheapest way. And, it allows our body a chance to heal. Research it for yourself.
How do curb the hunger?
@@mikeyd1216 First of all, consider it a workout for your willpower. You will get hungry, but results is what drives us, and no other way gives you faster results. And Ive done it all. Actually the low/good carb eating made me hungrier than just fasting.
When I started fasting, I failed twice trying to do 48 hour fasts, couldnt go past 24 hours. Then it gets easier, your body gets used to it as you do it more and more. Trust me, start doing fasts and in a short couple months youll be surprised how easily you can do 2 day fasts. I actually like the hunger feeling now.
The body runs through all the glucose/sugar after 16 hours of eating, less if it was low carb. Then it starts dissolving fat with bile.
It also heals itself, a process called Autophagy. Google it
Thanks 🍻
@@bellmeisterful thanks for the info. I'll give it a try and see how I do. I can do 12 hours but never have tried 24 or even thought of doing 48.
@@mikeyd1216 push yourself.
Say endomorph one more time.. Really... I'm leaving..
eaterof horseshit endomorph
Probably ate alot of horse shit and became an endomorph. lol
Xanax morph
Erik Lewis haha xanmorph
Endomorph endomorph endomorph endomorph endomorph endomorph endomorph endomorph
Guy is almost spot on. You can be a mix of all the body types, your not just one. I’ve always told people in a perfect scenario you would be low on the ectomorph scale and high in the mesomorph/endomorph so you can pack on some good weight on your frame. Like he said everyone can get ripped, endomorphs might have to work a little harder and diet a bit longer but a ripped endomorph dominant body type will look similar to a ripped mesomorph dominant body type
I think this is me
Ecto has its advantages. Ideal is literally just meso. Endo might get huge asf with good muscles, but they will lack in performance and might have great explosive power but not enough stamina/cardio. An ectomorph will struggle hard to gain but if they are committed over a long period of time, they will get bigger, will be forced to eat and train like madman just to maintain their body, won't lose much cardio since due to being an ecto they can control it if they want more strength or eat a bit less and immediately lose weight and have better cardio. Mesomorph is the only ideal one because it doesn't even have to work hard to gain or lose.
@@hasantariq2286 I've seen endos that have so much cardio. Talking about 100s of burpees in a row.
to bad that the whole endomorph, ectomorph, and mesomorph thing is pure bro science.
@@cloudyns that’s me I gained 25lbs from 14-18 every year of highschool just playing football basketball and lifting year round. There’s truth to it, I burn out easy but you can train through it.
There's a guy at my gym who goes every day and his left hand is missing. Yet he's still manages to do bench press.
Theres a guy at my gym with no legs... he squats
@@ImranKhan-dt5bg There's a guy at my gym with no eyes. He just goes there to ogle the cardio bunnies
Does he have 2 chests?
The fun part was I wasn't even playing
Lt. Dan got a new set of legs.
Always snack according to your body type. Ripping a fart after too many beef jerky sticks makes you a stinkomorph
Hahahahahhahaha bro, I'm dying from laughter right now! Good one!
You're a bitchomorph
😂
Bruhhhh 😂😂😂😂
Can a baby get ripped?
ImpalerGaming Ah yes the classic Infantmorph. That’s a tough body type to work with but it can work.
Yes.
ImpalerGaming if you leave it around Joes people theres a good possibility
Only if he’s fed grass-fed elk steaks and takes alpha brain
Can you milk me, Greg?
"Everyone has fight in their DNA" Unless your name is CM Punk
p*
Faxxxx
Oof
Man has heart though, was getting lit up and kept moving forward. More fight than most
with his flexability ,he probably wouldve been beast if he started in his 20s
I don’t understand why people are saying this is bro science, but body types do exist...why is that so unbelievable?
I sat beside Firas at a UFC event where he wasn't coaching he was just in the crowd and he gave some of the most precise play by play to the group he was sitting with it was so phenomenal for a fight nerd like me to hear. He called the K.O by Jimmo (RIP) before the fight even started amongst many other little tidbits. Then was super nice when i asked him for a pic he even propped his arm up on my shoulder to make it a much better pic man telling you it was a fight geeks dream come true! What a great asset to MMA.
yeah sure dude
@@flipf615 let’s set the stage here, I’m minding my own business just had a great dinner and preparing myself to train later on and my phone blinks and I see a notification from someone that says “ya sure” on a very basic but 100% story that I took the time to write because I enjoy interacting with MMA fans about the sport. Weird but if that story seems like a lie you just live a very ordinary life full of envy and disappointment.
@@danieljoseph8120 yeah sure buddy
@@danieljoseph8120And I totally liked your story, dude! Thank you for telling this to us!
@@danieljoseph8120yeah that definitely did not happen. i bet you’re the kind of guy that sits alone and pisses in fucking bottles
Somatotypes are a myth.
Chris Richardson how is it a myth
www.healthylivingheavylifting.com/why-body-types-are-bullshit/
TrEVILlyan 95 it was a rating system based on basically appearance. I could make up a body type rating system called the jacked, skinny or fat scale and it would be equally as worthless.
An Aussie except your scale doesn't have any strong holdings that originated in the criminal justice system, it may be a pseudoscience, but it does have some credibility in regards to grouping people
TrEVILlyan 95 not even a little and is constantly proven false and no one takes it seriously.
"Ladies, see those 3 pictures? I'd go with an endomorph ALL DAY"
I'm an endomorph, thick with muscle. It's definitely harder for me to lose fat, but it is easy to build muscle. I'm currently working out 5 times a week, 7 months in and lost 16lbs, 206 to 190 and I'm 5'5"
Ectomorph: Lean and long, with difficulty building muscle. Endomorph: Big, high body fat, often pear-shaped, with a high tendency to store body fat. Mesomorph: Muscular and well-built, with a high metabolism and responsive muscle cells.
So if your not mesomorph,. Your screwed
Random Kid100 you can still be in top shape as a endo or ecto. Meso you can say is just given better ingredients to pack muscle faster w a nice look.
Cameron No such thing as Endo/Medo/Ecto types. It’s pseudo-science with no scientific evidence.
This was a painfully annoying clip.
ticke153 ini the guy chats so much shit
ticke153 I liked it, great insight.
Really was. Hearing them argue about endomorphs and so on 🙄
There's no doubt there are several different body types. He's talking about the main 3 ones, but most people fall between one body type and another. I don't know where he's getting this short stocky guys always being endomorph thing from though. Pretty sure height is irrelevant to body type. You can be the same height as another person and be short and stocky or short and skinny. Lol.
Mr. Hyde it is, Its all about waist and metabolism
Joe: I’m DMTmorph
I'm definitely an ectomorph. When I was in my teens/early 20s I couldn't put anything on. Now that my metabolism has slowed a bit, I'm 28 now, I am finally starting to see the gains I've been working on for years. I have been exercise all the time for at least 10 years now.
I think you didn't lift properly or your nutrition was off. There is no way you lifted for 10 years and make no gains.
@@urdad6882 Look I made plenty of gains, just that having an extremely fast metabolism, these gains weren't as fast as someone with a different body type. I trained with elite coaches and athletes and always had good nutrition. As an ectomorph, once your metabolism slows a bit, you see much better gains. That's all I was trying to say, I learned fantastic technique and people would make fun of my diet habits (I'd bring lunches and snacks every day while they would go to MacDonalds). It's just that different body types gain differently at different stages in their lives. There were gains, just that looking back the gains are coming much quicker now.
I was the same, bullied as a teen for my beanpole physique. I was very fit and healthy but never much muscle. By my late 20’s I got to 15 I was over 200lbs and almost ripped, you could see part of a six pack but I wasn’t aiming for definition. Unfortunately various personal issues stopped me from staying that way but one day…
Somatotypes were designated by a psychological study to determine if body types had a consistent impact on a person's personality. For example, are people normally jolly?
They were debunked within a few months of being proposed.
They are not taken seriously by anyone who knows what they are.
Your muscle insertions and limb lengths are determined by genetics and your doctor will never classify you by your somatotype. You would be considered underweight, healthy, overweight, or obese.
These somatotypes were not created for, expected to be used for, or useful for any type of fitness endeavor.
People become because of a slow metabolism, injuries, glandular issues, overeating, etc.
People are skinny due to fast metabolisms, low calorie intake, exercising often, etc.
Mesomorphs could be anyone who eats a decent diet with a decent metabolism, someone who has a great diet and workout routine with a slow metabolism, or someone who eats a lot and has a fast metabolism.
At any point in your life you could go from being slow to fast, weak to strong, slim to large, or fat to ripped and it doesn't matter what the fuck your somatotype is.
1: Eat right
2:Train hard
3:Sleep well
4:Stop making stupid fucking excuses about your body when you don't even know what you are talking about. If you believe shit like this matters then you clearly have not done your research and I don't even think you are educated enough to make a real excuse.
Here comes the onslaught of people who don't know what they are talking about but will still try to tell me I'm wrong without reading my whole post or looking anything up.
It's Bro Science. Researched by bros. for bros. Let us have fun, bro
...Somatotypes are not excuses. They are body types. Some girls are 5'8 and they have tiny feet tiny hands small head very narrow shoulders and are naturally small. They have a tall skinny model girl look and even if they gained weight, they can never change their bone structure. It has nothing to do with the choices they make. Then another girl can be 5'8 and built like a linebacker, wide shoulders, naturally heavier, big feet, big hands, thick wrists and weighs way more than the other girl, but isn't fat and the same exact height. If she tried to weigh the same as the tiny model girl, she'd end up in the hospital. Being big boned is not the same thing as being fat. Big bones exist regardless of whether you are fat or not. This is what people mean by somatotypes. People can have drastically bigger and smaller bone structure at the same height. Fuck off with your dumb ass motivational crap.
@nicolas guzman layman's term is just describing if your bone structure is thin, medium or heavy while giving a height to correspond.
Lol Joe was 100% right about the Endomorph and Mesomorph and the other guy has basically the same understanding of it, and was just confusing what Joe’s idea of it was.
3:00 Joe Rogan: "Mmmm 😏"
God damn Joe lol
I clicked on the podcast as I usually do... I would never have guessed that Joe and Firas knew so much about Harry Potter.
THIS. IS ....So motherfucking true
Ehm, no it is not? Thats BRO science, fail statements.
@@Gushick you clearly don’t know what ur talking about.
@@Gushick The people saying bro science are just making jokes you sheeply little moron hahahaha
@UCAgNS-KaFkRXatbfx-zG1ig Somatotypes are pseudoscience and were debunked decades ago you dense fuck
Wolverine: “This ones for you, Morph!”
How about the mighty morphing?
1:50 admits he doesn't know what he's what he's talking about.. continues talking about it with certainty..
I hate talking to ppl like that 🤦♂️ I tend to just rebuttal with what joe said, idk 🤷♂️
There is no 3 categories. As you said "they fall on a continuum" or a spectrum. Your genes and chromosomes don't know categories, it's just a combination of all sorts. Genetics makes a big difference and can determine your metabolism.
I achieved amazing results with the personalized Agoge diet. Probably the best diet for growing muscle fast.
Ali shifted from a speedster to a cunning, tank over the years. Brilliant.
From what i know, Joe I
is right:
Ecto: doesn't get fat, has hard time gaining fat, generally tall with long limbs and good resistance.
Meso: gets muscles easily, have wide shoulders.
Endo: gets fat easily.
At least for men i think It works this way. Regardless, no one Is 100% Meso, Echto or Endo, we are all a mixture of those three to a certain degree. Anyone can get a good physic, people who tend to be at the extremes of the spectrum, Endo and especially Ehto, will have a hard time getting it. The method to build muscles is pretty much the same, somatotypes determine just your potential and how hard will it be to get results.
Endo: gets fat and muscles easily**
Why's this bloke teaching something he literally just admitted he doesn't really know about? It really sounds it later on as well.
gonufc its just foreplay they are sweet talking each other before the camera gets shut off
Nobody is teaching anything, its just a friendly conversation between two guys
he's being polite and open minded. the alternative would have been, "shut the fuck up Joe because I know what I'm talking about"
thersten cept he really doesn’t, somatype’s are confirmed bullshit.
Im not a car mechanic or expert but i still know enough about it to talk about certain topics at length with anyone. There is no school where they feed you special knowledge that an average person can't learn on their own.
The body type myth has been debunked
Medeiros Mindset I thought so. Is it any. Videos on that ???
facts. its not complicated.
Yeah but there is a truth to it.
Future of the West Podcast if thats the case then why does boxing and mma require different weight classes?
Obviously there is just people with different body types. Anthony Joshua and Manny Pacquiao for example lol
@@nehemyahberdugo2305 the truth is calories in < calories out over a long enough period makes everyone lose fat
I come from the weightlifting world, it's pretty well known that yes if their willing anyone healthy can get pretty ripped. Putting on allot of muscle is a different story much more difficult. That's why you see many more people with abs sub 200 pounds than mass monsters.
You’re contradicting yourself
There talking about these different “morphs” like they are your astrology sign and it’s lowkey making me mad
6:16 cured my depression
0:37 I think he forgot Xenomorph
What about Animorphs...those things man...they can fuck some shit up.
Tobias
"What I read, I might be wrong" alright end of that clip.
Can we just clear up the somatotypes where debunked a long time ago and originated in psychology before being dragged into the fitnes space.
Thank you
Music Dude 24/7 That ain’t a spectrum. That’s common sense.
Music Dude 24/7 I agree, bruh!
My chick is an ectomorph and she always asleep bro!😂
Because she is tired from cheating on you.
Gabby J why bro hahaha
@@2mandae laughed way harder at this than I should have.
I love how people deny up and down that these three different body types matter because they aren't real. It's only those who are on both ends of the spectrum who truly understand what it's like to either struggle or gain weight. For me, I'm a total endomorph. I was kinda chubby growing up, but I put on muscle so fast I got stretch marks. When I go to the gym, I almost always get a good pump. My arms are thick, my chest is thick, and my stomach is soft. I eat a lower carb diet than most people yet I'm still chubby. I've got lots of muscle and I could put on more if I really went for it, but the weight just doesn't go.
I’m exactly the same in march 2021 I was 98 kg & now I am 70kg & still have a lot of fat on my body mainly body fat & im 5,11 im trying to add on muscle any tips on how to lose the body fat & gain muscle mass my goal is to be 85kg with 22% body fat I am 29.5% body fat at the moment
@@BoxOf0121it’s hard to do both, but it’s mostly down to thermodynamics, and having enough protein available for your body to turn into muscle(which it can do up to 5 times a day). Look into coach Gregg on TH-cam, he really gives it to you Barney style.
@@BoxOf0121Good High Carb High Protein diet mixed with exercise. Gotta eat a few hundred more calories than your recommended intake, also gotta burn those calories in activity. No exceptions. You'll have to buckle down and discipline yourself to an alarming degree, but the results will be worth it.
"I've train 1000s of people"
"I'm not sure about body types, I'm not a biologist"
Yeah he looked dumb
Big deal, endomorph, fucktomorph who cares, his job is to train people and put diets together
"I've trained thousands, and I don't know what endo/meso/ectomorph mean." Moving right along...
That Endo-, Meso-, Exomorph stuff is such BS.
It's originally a concept of Psychology, nothing to do with Physiology
But are you a biologist?-
Joe “but isn’t that” Rogan
Should’ve had me on. My bro science is top notch
Joe Rogen obviously has never heard of wings of redemption
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Ha that fucker, not heard his name for a while. He will never lose weight, he is too lazy. And he might be better if he got a real job and was active.
HuntingThyme APPEARING OFFLINE DOES NOT FUCKING STOP IT. STOP GIVING ADVICE ON SHIT YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT.
This really got me motivated to get in shape, right after I have some ring dings and take a nap
These body types have been debunked aloooooong time ago.
yes but not yes. if youve got a small bone frame youre gonna stuggle WAY more to put on muscle. my wrists are maybe 4 cm in diameter at 23 that makes me an ectomorph regardless of the debunking. i know that sounds retarded but TRUST ME in my case at least it applies
@@mr.orangeaide5260 Same here..
@@mr.orangeaide5260 no, you just don't eat enough calories. Hard gainers are not real - only poor appetites.
@Jacob Monnin no, you don't. Nobody is above the laws of thermodynamics. There's no such thing as a hard gainer. Calorie intake versus deficit always reigns supreme, unless they literally have a tapeworm or something like a section of their small intestine removed.
firas had one of the greatest podcast in jre history
George is on the gear brah
"I could be wrong" was the quote from the video that should have been the title...
Become a xenomorph!
Joe: anyone can get ripped
DC: 🤐🤫