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@@richardlloydusa curiously i it didn't work because because this is the other way around and Netgear routers don't allow to change settings because my house connection is FTTTN and NTGEAR turned out (AC1200) as a brick.. I bought it mistakenly. Tp link routers allow configuration with or without internet but Netgear don't. i
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This man is a hero!! I've spent HOURS trying to put a Nighthawk on the same network as my Fios... should have been easier. This video is beyond simple explaination, example and accurate. Thank you for taking the time to do a fantastic walkthrough. FOR FIOS USERS, use the same settings as Richard's 1st router: in the admin screen of FIOS go to My Network, find your 2nd router, select details from dropdown, click on BRIDGE, then SETTINGS. Down in the bottom section, change Start IPv4 Address: to what Richard has in this video. You'll be good to go!!
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Excellent video, finally someone who can actually explain bridging properly, thank you for your time and effort, really appreciate it, keep up the Sterling work.
Is this really bridging ? I thought bridging was 2 or more different subnets to be managed by a bridge/Router? This is simple extending I would say. In this confit ALL traffic is Shared over the whole network. In bridging there is some kind of a river/border and the packets aren’t broadcast over 2 routers if the target is in subnet 2. Nice Video though.
Great video for network noobs like me. listening to it not only helped me set up my 2nd router, but gave me the understandings that I have always lacked. Thank you Richard, I know it's only 5 years later...
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Fantastic video. Finally someone that explains how to add a "second router" in a way we can understand and follow along. Manufacturer kept giving me instructions how to set second router as access point. Problem is that disables the wired ports. Thank you for creating this.
I tried to connect my secondary router yesterday but to no avail. Now after watching your detailed video I am pretty confident of getting the secondary router to work. This video serves as an excellent guide taking into consideration the minute details. Thank you for your effort in educating us. Keep the Good work going.
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Excellent video Richard. My two routers weren't set up properly and it was chaos: wife and family complaining! Very clear instructions and all fixed now. The two routers are now set up properly and I can find my network drive again. More importantly the wife and family can connect their iPhones and iPads reliably!! Many thanks
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Just wanted to say “thank you” for a wonderfully well explained video. I have no experience in networking and needed to extend wireless internet access to a room in a detached garage. I just assumed it would be too difficult of a task, so I kept putting it off. Finally got another router and did a TH-cam search. Found this and it was super easy to follow and made it easy. Connected a Belkin (primary) with a Netgear (secondary). Thanks so much!
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You have helped soooo many people, just look at it... almost 5 million people. Well done! Mine wasn't working properly because the DHCP on second router was on, even after I turned it off. So, because you double checked on your video, I did the same and... Bingo! Google and youtube still worked with the DHCP on before, that's why I was confused... Thank you!
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this video really helped me out. i watched other videos regarding this and left me confused. this explanation was specific and on point every time. thanks a lot sir.
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Man, you're the best! Simple, easygoing, just the essencial was explained. No techie talk, no bs. Just what REALLY matters. Greetings from Brazil! Thanks a lot. Oh! And I SMASHED that like button already!
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Richard.... you got me through this, thank you!!! I have battled for over 3 hours to get my 'slave router' set up and your video helped!! THANK YOU! You need a red cape, because you're my new hero!!
I just did it in my home, and it's working really well! Thank you! I'm not very technologically inclined so the fact that this video was so easy to follow and simple was a very big help! Thank you so much!
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Excellent, I found a few things I was doing wrong, corrected them with the help of your video. Now everything is working great. Looking forward to the video with three routers!
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Thank you so much for this video. I’m not a very tech savvy guy... but with your help I got another router set up in my workshop on the back of my property. I followed your directions and got it working on the first try. 👍👍👍👍
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AWESOME TUTORIAL! Had problems understanding how to connect my two routers, this made is so much easier and explained it in a very informative way. Thanks alot!
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Just awesome!! Thank you SOOO much for explaining the network set up in human language. And including the actual hardware setup instructions too!! I feel like an expert now :)
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Mate thank you so much for all the Info I was trying to look everywhere for a good decent video to connect my new secondary router I was having issues with some site not opening on the second router and every now and then the whole internet stops I tried your way to connect them and so far so good Thank you
Thanks so much - I've spent on and off a couple of weeks trying to "extend" the wifi in our house so that I can sit out on the deck and have access to wifi. This was by far the best explanation I've seen. Simple, elegant and it works. As the a guy also commented about you being annoying, it's only that if we have some knowledge, we're impatient to get on with it. But really 30mins was way less time than I've spent on searching for how to do this using bridge modes and WLAN connections etc, etc. Thanks!
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Saved the day Richard... thank you. The glitch was on my side... My TPLink had to have a factory reset because it wouldn't connect to the laptop initially.
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MAN U ARE THE BEST, I tryed to do it on my own like 3 hours :)). After I droped it and watch your video.Ty so much for the video, you have my appreciation, naw I have internet at bathroom. Thumbs up
It WORKED! Once I slowed down and followed your instructions, everything worked just fine! I connected via a Linksys Velop mesh wifi. I love Velop, but I discovered I have one "smart" device that is to dumb to work with Velop. Tech support said, "It is way too powerful" and they would not talk to me. This TP-Link WiFi was a lot cheaper than replacing their dumb/smart unit. Your instructions allowed me to add the devise to my network and now I can put a few other specific items on here as well. BTW, I realized Velop automatically leaves 2 - 9 open for static IP's. This was another lifesaver for me. Thanks for the help!
What this shows is using the second router as a switch/hub and WiFi access point. Very, very useful in itself - I've used this method several times to implement "quick and dirty" WiFi "hot spots" when all I've had to hand is an old WiFi router. Is it bridging? One could argue that switches are multi-port bridges, but for the purpose of the what Richard is showing, does it matter and who cares (apart from the point of view of being pedantic) However, it is NOT true that you can do this with ANY WiFi router. It varies from make to make. - some will NOT forward DHCP requests from their WiFi interface to their LAN interfaces. They will only send them to their internal DHCP server. - some will ALWAYS route traffic on their WiFi interface to destinations out on the internet through their OWN WAN interface. They WILL NOT send it to another router (gateway), even though PCs on the WiFi interface are configured to use the OTHER router as the "default gateway". If you encounter either of these problems trying to do this: - WiFi clients connected to the secondary router fail to get an IP address unless you enable DHCP on that router. - WiFi clients connected to the secondary router can talk to other machines on the LAN but trying to talk to the internet fails. You probably have one of those "awkward" ones. There is a simple potential solution if your two routers are of different makes - simply swap their roles around. Make the one that doesn't want to play ball just being an access point as the "main" router, and use what was your main router as the access point. Also you CAN have two DHCP servers on the same subnet as long as their "scopes" - the range of IP addresses they dish out - DON'T overlap. Large networks usually have multiple DHCP servers for redundancy. Machines simple get an IP address from which ever one replies first.
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Of all the videos I have watched (5+) this is absolutely the best. You answered all my questions and clarified some confusion left by other tutorials (including my routers’ documentation). I do not understand the thumbs down. For one of the most comprehensive videos, they should all be thumbs up in my opinion. Thank you for posting this.
It really helped. I figured a way to setup 2 different routers (DLink & tenda) at my ground floor & first floor separately without compromising speed & network range. Thank you so much. Thank you.
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Great Video! Was able to set everything up perfectly. However, you mentioned that wireless channel be used are 1,6, and 11. This only applies for 2.4 GHz? I noticed that 5.0 GHz has channels that are different and much higher values. What would you suggest the channel be for those or does it not matter in 5.0 GHz?
I think it doesn't matter in 5ghz I looked it up, from what I understand 5ghz uses DFS which is Dynamic Frequency Selection which kind of always avoids interference
Hey mate, I have run through your instruction and the modems are talking but no internet on the secondary. I can log into the secondary modem via 192.168.1.2 and everything is as per your instruction but no internet... I have factory reset 3 times with no luck.
Do a factory reset on the secondary router. Follow my video EXACTLY step by step and it will work regardless of what type of routers you are using. The usual reasons for this not working are incorrect IP address on the secondary, DHCP not turned off on the secondary and/or incorrect Ethernet connection between the two routers. It should be LAN port from the primary to LAN port on the secondary. The WAN/Internet port on the secondary should not be used. Another possibility is a bad Ethernet cable. Thank you so much for commenting. I appreciate it greatly. All the best.👍😀
Thanks to this video I was finally able to get a superfast connection between my pc and my pico 4 vr headset in a remote part of my house far away from my original router.. So a thousand thanks!!!!
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Also you should have just explained that you are merely going to use the 2nd "router" as an "Access Point" and that you should just purchase a dedicated AP to do this as they are built for that an optimized for that unlike these home routers which are made to be 4 in one boxes. Ubiquiti makes some good product especially for a home with the only downside is having to dedicate a machine to be the "controller" for the AP. You can also buy a "cloud key" which is a PC-on-a-stick (literally) and it will run the controller software. It's very powerful and flexible. Unless you want a switch at the second location (where you are putting the 2nd Router (AP) in this scenario then get an AP.
Two routers on the same subnet, never a good idea; especially if you plan to print or connect to any static configured devices. I also use Ubiquiti hardware and have come to appreciate their approach on functionality, control, remote access, and especially the ability to upgrade any and all their devices hundreds of miles away.
@@cwilson2872 Why not put 2 "routers" on the same subnet? Not sure why you wouldn't want to connect a static-configured device. I think I ought to be able to upgrade any router from anywhere, as long as I have an internet connection where I am and where the router is.
Hi Richard. Thanks for a very well put together tutorial video. It was confidence inspiring and really useful! Great to get some use out of my old router rather than have it languish in a storage box. Wife is impressed to have a stonger signal through the house too. Cheers from Sydney Australia.
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This helps alot. Im trying to connect my router to a modem/router via extender from across the house. The extender is connected to my router with an ethernet cable. It worked well before but its had trouble lately and idk why
Hi Richard- this is an excellent video for sure- thank you for taking the time! The question I have is, is there a way to separate the routers so that they don't share any content? I know they have different SSID's and passwords, but you said they also share content between them. Have a guest quarters set up and don't want to have them access home network and vice versa. Thanks in advance :)
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Was struggling to setup connectivity between routers. After watching multiple videos, i found this Great video. Thanks Richard for simple step by step explanation. You are great Teacher.
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Hey, great video. What happens if we have the same SSID on both routers but on different channels, say 1 and 11. Will the problem of the device connecting to the router that first answers the call still exist? I don't mind having two separate SSIDs but it would be more convenient if it was just one. Thank you!
Experiment with it. The issue is that the WIFI devices will connect to which ever device responds first not the fastest or strongest signal and it will not let go of that connection until it becomes so weak it can't connect any longer or you disconnect the device manually. Since both SSID's are the same you will never know which router you are actually connected to. Again experiment with it and see what works for you. Thanks.
Thanks for the reply. I ended up setting up two separate SSIDs and I'm having absolutely no problems with it. The video was very descriptive and it was a breeze to follow the steps. Cheers!
Richard Lloyd Need your help sir, followed your direction smoothly until I had to obtain address from Cisco E3000 connected viA LAN cable. The address is the same as the Verizon Fios router which I connected to via WiFi . I reset everything and started from step one again to have same results. What am I doing wrong or didn’t do. Regards
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Can I use the other unused LAN ports for wired connection for my desktop. If so how? Do I need to configure something? I'm reffering to the secondary router. TIA
Yes you can use the free LAN ports to connect devices. If the devices are set to get their IP addresses automatically it should just be plug and play. Thank you for watching and commenting. I appreciate it greatly. All the best.👍😀
I have 3 main one is my Bec 6300nel Ridgewave R15 LTE modem wifi on it is crap my main wifi is Netgear Nighthawk AX3000 router hooked to my bec 6300nel Ridgewave R15 LTE modem I have a second router hooked to Nighthawk AX3000 router Tplink Archer Ax1500 router
Finally a clear instruction video on how to do this! We have our phone socket downstairs and have to connect the router there but I also need router upstairs in the office so that I can plug devices into the routers both downstairs and upstairs. I didn't want to run million cables so with this I can just run one small cable from the router downstairs to the router upstairs. Great video! Thanks!
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Hey Richard, first of all great vid! You've toned it down and made it layman friendly! So cheers and applause for the good work!!! I have one question though and it would be GREAT help if you help me understand. - So before I stumbled on your video, I did a somewhat similar connection, but the major difference being at 12:10. I plugged in the mid-cable from "Orange Port 1" of "Router 1" to "WAN port" of "Router 2". With this setup, all connections work, i.e. wired and wireless on both routers. The only drawback being the inability to get to "Router 2" configuration page. The IP address automatically picked it up as 10.0.0.1 while the base router is on 192.168.1.1. I assume it's due to DHCP turned ON on Router 2 by default. Right? So my question is, why not use the WAN port on Router 2 instead of the orange LAN ports?
Hey man, thank you for this video. however, i’d like to know if i can still connect LAN cables to connect my office pc on the 2nd router if i don’t want a wireless connection?
Yes, absolutely just make sure NOT to use the WAN/Internet port. Use any of the LAN ports. Thank you for watching and commenting. I appreciate it greatly. All the best.👍😀
Excellent directions without distractions of annoying music or something else like that. Thank you very much for your expertise in connecting two routers and why this is beneficial. Excellent!!!!!!!
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i really liked your video cause i was thinking of doing something like this so as to keep my Fire TV in my bedroom hardwired with extra lan ports for whatever. But my question is: what's the REAL purpose of doing this with the 2 routers?
As a person who has had someone else set-up all things electronic, THIS was my super basic question and your understandable, succinct answer. Even I could get your wonderful, instructional video. Thank you!!
You could if all your devices were "Wired", this setup is great if your trying to extend the wireless "wifi" range in the house or property. Example: Say you have a boat house 200' away from your house but you want wifi coverage there..... You could not use a WiFi range extender because to use one of those you have to have overlapping wifi coverage of your main router (the wifi repeater has to be in range of the main wifi router), by doing this it allows you to basically add an additional WiFi hot spot anywhere with in 100 meters (328' using CAT 5E connecting wire) of your main router. You can buy Wifi hot spot devices that also connect to your main router but one of the main disadvantages of those is that they don't usually have the kind of control that a router has, also routers have become so cheap that you can pick up a router for less then $100USD you can even find them at second hand thrift stores for dirt cheap. EDIT: In the example yes you would have to run a CAT5E cable from the main router to the boat house.
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The step where not getting back into my router interface was said to be normal helped me a TON! I thought something was wrong and kept resetting the router and starting over thinking I did something wrong. Thanks!
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I was about to buy a wifi extender for my home but after watching your video, I utilised my old router and its cable and its working pretty great than I've expected. so much thank you for your help. this also helped me to gain some knowledge about some basic router settings.
thanks sir but i have Q > i want use 2 routers on same phone line without connection of 2 routers via cable i have 2 sockets for same phone line can i use the other socket to use second router ?
I am not sure what you mean. Routers use LAN cables to connect to each other (not phone lines) and they use RJ45 connectors (Network connectors with 8 leads) phones use RJ11 connectors with 4 leads. Thank you for watching and commenting. I appreciate it greatly. All the best.👍😀
You have an ADSL internet on a phone line. Unfortunately the answer is no. Only one modem or modem/router can connect to your ADSL provider at a time through your phone line.
@@michelpp01 some dal modems like mine have two lines in for two dal connections so technacilly you have two lines in your home ypu could have two different dal lines and do it.
Richard your great! I have a Question: I have a Netgear Nighthawk and in the router settings it has AP mode (Access Point mode) , do I still need to do all this?? or do I just turn it on and that's it?? thank you.
Hi..I like how you kept things straight to the point and didnt muddy the waters with a bunch of nice to know but not necessary to know technical info for the task at hand!
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ok nice to have guide and tnx for your time to doing this , now in my case i want(need) to connect the two routers together not with the wire(lan) but with the wifi is this possible ? i have the primary router connecting to my pc with lan. i just need to bringe the two routers with the wifi (wireless) not with the lan (wired) like you did , is that possible ?
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With this configuration you will have to connect both routers with a cable. I have many videos showing how to do the same thing using WIFI here: bit.ly/2XQVNkq Thank you for watching and commenting. I appreciate it greatly. All the best.👍😀
What is better? or is it the same? What I need to do is get internet from my neighboorm he is aware of the situation. Is it better with cable or can we do it wit wi-fi, so they cable is not hanging out side? thanks
I'm not understanding your question. Your secondary router should have a fixed manually assigned IP address as I show in the video. Please the review the video step by step, exactly as I show. It should work for you. Thank you so much for watching and commenting. I appreciate it greatly. All the best.👍😀
I've connected my 2 routers successfully - thanks. quick question can I plug in a ethernet cable to router 2 and go on the internet - having trouble and wondering is it just the wifi that works on router 2 ?
Excellent. Thank you for a wonderful "how to" video. Exactly what I've needed and was very worried about doing it. Much more comfortable now to go ahead with it. AND I have your video ready to watch again if I make any mistakes!! ;-)
Many thanks for this. I need a second router in my shed where I have a network cable running from the house router for a camera, but I wanted to connect that cable into a 'shed router' so I could connect the old camera and add another camera. After searching around this explained it all perfectly simply for me, a total non computer techy person!!
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The second one is acting as an access point and you can set it to the same SSID as the primary but as I stated in the video if there is overlap between the two routers there is no guarantee that you will end up connected to the nearest router. Now if the second router is not within WiFI range of the first router then you can use the same SSID for both routers without issue. Thanks.
IT/networking major here. You should actually completely disable wifi on the second router. This is for 2 reasons: 1. two wifi signals on the same frequency (2.4 or 5ghz) creates interference. This CAN be avoided by setting each wifi network to run on different channels that dont overlap, though there is still no reason to do this. If you set both networks to the same SSID and credentials, you will only stay connected to one of them. Lets say you have one router downstairs and one upstairs. you come home and your phone connects to the router with the strongest signal (likely the downstairs one) you go upstairs and your signal gets weaker, but now you have a nice strong signal from the upstairs router right? No. Your phone will stay connected to the first one. You would manually have to change to the other one. There are wfi range extending devices for this purpose that DO swtich to the AP (access point) with the strongest signal. This is called a roaming network. This is still not perfect, because much of it is still up to the device to switch, but thats becoming a necessary thing for developers to start working on) So my piece of advice, place your main router on a mid level foor (or just generally central in the home if only one level) and configure your wireless network from that. Disable the wireless radios entirely and use a second router only to add additional ethernet ports. Even still, there are devices to do this for much cheaper than buying a second router. Get a small unmanaged desktop switch if you need more things hardwired. TP link has a great 5 or 8 port switch for like $20. Theres on sitting on my desk right now and it's great. Let me know if you have any questions.
I agree with Tyler Garrison. Your method, while possible, is completely unnecessary. This is configuration (regarding dual NAT and Dual DHCP), is detrimental to real time communications, such as voice and video. I would suggest that you consider desktop switches as mentions above and/or wireless AP's if you believe you need better wireless control. Though, if you insist on connecting multiple routers, you should atleast, place all slave routers to either AP mode or Bridge mode, this will essentially convert them to switches with wifi radios.
Network certified, 15 years experience. I don't know where to begin, so I'm just going to re-explain it instead. You *can* have multiple APs on the same network with the same SSIDs and credentials, you'll just want to put them on different channels to avoid interference and grant the best connectivity (though not *always* necessary - depends on the number of clients). However, how and when your device switches over to the next strongest AP is *DEVICE* specific. A *good* wireless adapter will be seamless. This is because, despite the APs having the same SSID, they have different MAC addresses, and thus are seen as different APs to the actual device. Where some older/cheaper WiFi devices can fail is channel-hopping, not just AP-hopping. That is to say: they stick to the same AP *because* you're using multiple channels, which would be where just using the same channel despite the performance hit might be worth it. Additionally, there's no real difference between a repeater and a second AP as far as what the WiFi device sees: they are 2 MAC addresses with the same SSID and it picks the stronger one. If what you said were true, organizations with wide AP networks would not be able to work. Yes, larger organizations might use centralized WiFi controllers, but that doesn't change the AP-client relationship. Additionally, WiFi, like any radio signal, radiates horizontally way more than vertically, making it sometimes practical to have an AP to service each floor of the building. Also, I'm going to guess this is for people who have upgraded or otherwise come into possession of a second router - I wouldn't recommend necessarily going out and buying a second router just to do this, either, but sometimes that's still the easiest solution, especially if you need the extra port. A small business or non-profit might also use this method to be cheap, but effective.
Your devices will connect automatically (as long as they are set to do so) to which ever router responds first again as long as you have created a WIFI link to that router. Thank you so much for watching and commenting. I appreciate it greatly. All the best.👍😀
Your devices like smart phone you need to put password first then second time your devices will automatic connect if the first router not working next one will instead, just like you go to your office if you already set your password every time you go to office will automatic using office network.
If both devices are set with the same SSID and same password, then the short answer would be "Yes" but it would depend on your configuration, if it is set to roaming etc. but the if they both have different IP schemes then "no" you would have to log off one to log in to the other one.
I followed your steps four times before I figured out that I need to tell the 2nd router not to use a password for the internet. Once I did that everything worked a treat. Thanks for the great video. Maybe be there are some routers that need the extra step. My second router was a netgear D3600. My first was NBN Fibre Optic supplied by my internet provider.
Is it also possible to get Internet from the second router per LAN, right? Not only Wi-Fi, yes? :D Anyway very good explained video, i was looking for kind of those for most of time, thank god you are here. :D
Yes, if you plug into the blue lan port. You will get your DHCP from either the second router (if you did not shut off DHCP) and that will give you IP issues. But if you configure your 2nd 3rd and every toher router with DHCP off. It will get your DHCP from the primary router. If that makes sense to you.
@@cathybetter2245 LAN Ports differ in colour on multiple routers. Our home network router has a blue WAN (Internet) port, which is a port for a connection to an Internet source, usually a modem. Besides that, maybe I'll try your method and see if one of my routers on hand will fetch IP addresses from the main router.
Thanks Richard. I accomplished this setup of two routers wired together with LAN cable. I used my Securify Almond wireless and my TP-Link C7 wireless router. Note I didn't have to install the DD-WRT firmware to accomplish the task. I did try it with the DD-WRT firmware for my particular TP-Link C7 but kept getting a problem of not being able to access (log in to) the TP-Link C7 after installing the DD-WRT upgrade.(Still not sure why this was happening because I used the correct version 1). Finally I got bricked out of my C7 completely and thought it was junk until I discovered another video and your video on how to UNBRICK almost any router...( th-cam.com/video/ZW5fpOWpI0I/w-d-xo.html ) I used the TFTP method and it worked Great! Saved my TP-Link from the dump! I actually performed the UNBRICK 4 times and with perfect success each time after bricking it. I DID get the TP-Link C7 to work without the DD-WRT upgrade. I only updated to the latest TP-Link firmware version, (which is what I was using to un-brick it with using TFTP each time) Have had the LAN wired extension working now for over a week. No problems. I want to mention that when I was getting the DD-WRT firmware for my C7 it states there is no coming back to OEM firmware if you brick the C7. That's NOT true if a person uses the TFTP process. As I said, I un-bricked mine 4 times. Just wanted to get this out there because I suspect there are many people junking good routers due to the lack of knowledge on how to un-brick.
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Hi, when I go to my secondary router and enter the IP address it tells me its invalid and i can't do any thing. trying to change it from 192. 168. 0. 1 to 102.168.1.2 (primary was changed to 192.168.1.20) can you help me please
can anyone address this issue? My Linksys router will not accept the change from 192.168.1.1 to 192.168.0.2 (to match my main routers 192.168.0.xxx profile
It's because both your routers dhcp settings belong on the same subnet. If your 1st router belongs to 192.168.1.0 with a mask of 255.255.255.0, the 2nd router should be 192.168.2.0 subnet mask of 255.255.255.0 I'm not gonna get into the details of it but routers have separate broadcast domains. Just go to the DHCP settings of the 2nd router and change it to 192.168.2.0 subnet 255.255.255.0
I tried this method, but I am getting an error message stating, "The IP address conflicts with the WAN IP subnet. Please enter a different IP address"... I'm using a Westell DSL wireless modem, and want to connect my Netgear R6400 1750 up to it as an extension...
i dont know much but are you sure you have actually changed it and clicked apply there change or whatever it is, and are you sure to type in the new IP, if unsure what it is, check in the control panel like he did
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Yes, most modern routers do not require a cross over cable anymore as they auto negotiate. Thank you for watching and commenting. I appreciate it greatly. All the best.👍😀
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curiously i it didn't work because because this is the other way around and Netgear routers don't allow to change settings because my house connection is FTTTN and NTGEAR turned out (AC1200) as a brick..
I bought it mistakenly. Tp link routers allow configuration with or without internet but Netgear don't.
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@@richardlloydusa Hi can i connect a pc or my security cameras to the second router. please advice
4 years later and this video is still helping people. Thanks, Richard!
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this video never gets old. you might think im crazy for watching it like 5 times already but your videos work miracles
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3 years later, this is still the best tutorial for linking the two routers.
This man is a hero!! I've spent HOURS trying to put a Nighthawk on the same network as my Fios... should have been easier. This video is beyond simple explaination, example and accurate. Thank you for taking the time to do a fantastic walkthrough. FOR FIOS USERS, use the same settings as Richard's 1st router: in the admin screen of FIOS go to My Network, find your 2nd router, select details from dropdown, click on BRIDGE, then SETTINGS. Down in the bottom section, change Start IPv4 Address: to what Richard has in this video. You'll be good to go!!
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Excellent video, finally someone who can actually explain bridging properly, thank you for your time and effort, really appreciate it, keep up the Sterling work.
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Is this really bridging ? I thought bridging was 2 or more different subnets to be managed by a bridge/Router? This is simple extending I would say. In this confit ALL traffic is Shared over the whole network. In bridging there is some kind of a river/border and the packets aren’t broadcast over 2 routers if the target is in subnet 2.
Nice Video though.
Outstanding content. Very helpful.
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Richard Lloyd excellent explanation. Thank you very much. You made this easy.
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this is not bridged yet, you have to do that yourself in settings of the secondary router
Great video for network noobs like me. listening to it not only helped me set up my 2nd router, but gave me the understandings that I have always lacked. Thank you Richard, I know it's only 5 years later...
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Fantastic video. Finally someone that explains how to add a "second router" in a way we can understand and follow along. Manufacturer kept giving me instructions how to set second router as access point. Problem is that disables the wired ports. Thank you for creating this.
I tried to connect my secondary router yesterday but to no avail. Now after watching your detailed video I am pretty confident of getting the secondary router to work. This video serves as an excellent guide taking into consideration the minute details. Thank you for your effort in educating us. Keep the Good work going.
Hey man you are a man of dedication still replying to comments after years of this video is up !! Salute
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Excellent video, finally someone here to actually explain how to connect two routers properly,
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what if i want to connect multiple router or ap on a primary?
Richard jij leeft op duizend km van mij af, ik woon in Europa Bulgarije, de meest uitgebreide video dat ik tot hiertoe heb gezien, met verstaanbare uitleg. Hartelijk dank en fijne eindejaarsfeesten👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
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Excellent video Richard. My two routers weren't set up properly and it was chaos: wife and family complaining! Very clear instructions and all fixed now. The two routers are now set up properly and I can find my network drive again. More importantly the wife and family can connect their iPhones and iPads reliably!! Many thanks
SAVED MY MARRIAGE! Thanks for the clear and thorough guide.
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Long but probably one of the best explaining videos on youtube explaining the subject!
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Just wanted to say “thank you” for a wonderfully well explained video. I have no experience in networking and needed to extend wireless internet access to a room in a detached garage. I just assumed it would be too difficult of a task, so I kept putting it off. Finally got another router and did a TH-cam search. Found this and it was super easy to follow and made it easy. Connected a Belkin (primary) with a Netgear (secondary). Thanks so much!
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You have helped soooo many people, just look at it... almost 5 million people. Well done! Mine wasn't working properly because the DHCP on second router was on, even after I turned it off. So, because you double checked on your video, I did the same and... Bingo! Google and youtube still worked with the DHCP on before, that's why I was confused... Thank you!
You're most welcome. Yes, it's awesome. I had no idea when I made the video that it would be so well recieved. I think I will make the video again but this time use dual band routers to show how to configure the WIFI and update the information. The procedure is still basically the same. And yeah to DHCP servers on one network will cause all sorts of confusion.
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this video really helped me out. i watched other videos regarding this and left me confused. this explanation was specific and on point every time. thanks a lot sir.
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Man, you're the best! Simple, easygoing, just the essencial was explained. No techie talk, no bs. Just what REALLY matters. Greetings from Brazil! Thanks a lot. Oh! And I SMASHED that like button already!
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"techie talk" it's not bs, if you're a moron don't blame the complex data kkkkkkkkkkkk
Thank you for taking the time to explain this in lay mans terms, for once I now understand this concept.
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I agree. thanks from all of us dodos
Richard.... you got me through this, thank you!!! I have battled for over 3 hours to get my 'slave router' set up and your video helped!! THANK YOU! You need a red cape, because you're my new hero!!
I just did it in my home, and it's working really well! Thank you! I'm not very technologically inclined so the fact that this video was so easy to follow and simple was a very big help! Thank you so much!
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One of the best TH-cam tutorials I've come across in many years. Thank you!
The best detailed instructional videos that I have found for for linking two routers!
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Absolutely perfect explanation. I got my router to work 20 mins into the video following your explanation.
Every year when i get a new internet package deal i come back to this video :) It is very clear and helpful. Thanks for taking the time to do it!
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Excellent, I found a few things I was doing wrong, corrected them with the help of your video. Now everything is working great. Looking forward to the video with three routers!
Thank you. I will be releasing the three router video this week. Stay tuned. All the best.
The best explanation I have ever seen. Learned a lot from you guru! Thank You!
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Thank you so much for this video. I’m not a very tech savvy guy... but with your help I got another router set up in my workshop on the back of my property. I followed your directions and got it working on the first try. 👍👍👍👍
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AWESOME TUTORIAL! Had problems understanding how to connect my two routers, this made is so much easier and explained it in a very informative way. Thanks alot!
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Just awesome!! Thank you SOOO much for explaining the network set up in human language. And including the actual hardware setup instructions too!! I feel like an expert now :)
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Mate thank you so much for all the Info I was trying to look everywhere for a good decent video to connect my new secondary router I was having issues with some site not opening on the second router and every now and then the whole internet stops
I tried your way to connect them and so far so good
Thank you
Thanks so much - I've spent on and off a couple of weeks trying to "extend" the wifi in our house so that I can sit out on the deck and have access to wifi. This was by far the best explanation I've seen. Simple, elegant and it works. As the a guy also commented about you being annoying, it's only that if we have some knowledge, we're impatient to get on with it. But really 30mins was way less time than I've spent on searching for how to do this using bridge modes and WLAN connections etc, etc. Thanks!
So many details covered in here that are usually skipped in other tutorials. Thank you !
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Saved the day Richard... thank you. The glitch was on my side... My TPLink had to have a factory reset because it wouldn't connect to the laptop initially.
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MAN U ARE THE BEST, I tryed to do it on my own like 3 hours :)). After I droped it and watch your video.Ty so much for the video, you have my appreciation, naw I have internet at bathroom. Thumbs up
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It WORKED! Once I slowed down and followed your instructions, everything worked just fine! I connected via a Linksys Velop mesh wifi. I love Velop, but I discovered I have one "smart" device that is to dumb to work with Velop. Tech support said, "It is way too powerful" and they would not talk to me. This TP-Link WiFi was a lot cheaper than replacing their dumb/smart unit. Your instructions allowed me to add the devise to my network and now I can put a few other specific items on here as well. BTW, I realized Velop automatically leaves 2 - 9 open for static IP's. This was another lifesaver for me. Thanks for the help!
What this shows is using the second router as a switch/hub and WiFi access point. Very, very useful in itself - I've used this method several times to implement "quick and dirty" WiFi "hot spots" when all I've had to hand is an old WiFi router.
Is it bridging? One could argue that switches are multi-port bridges, but for the purpose of the what Richard is showing, does it matter and who cares (apart from the point of view of being pedantic)
However, it is NOT true that you can do this with ANY WiFi router. It varies from make to make.
- some will NOT forward DHCP requests from their WiFi interface to their LAN interfaces. They will only send them to their internal DHCP server.
- some will ALWAYS route traffic on their WiFi interface to destinations out on the internet through their OWN WAN interface. They WILL NOT send it to another router (gateway), even though PCs on the WiFi interface are configured to use the OTHER router as the "default gateway".
If you encounter either of these problems trying to do this:
- WiFi clients connected to the secondary router fail to get an IP address unless you enable DHCP on that router.
- WiFi clients connected to the secondary router can talk to other machines on the LAN but trying to talk to the internet fails.
You probably have one of those "awkward" ones.
There is a simple potential solution if your two routers are of different makes - simply swap their roles around. Make the one that doesn't want to play ball just being an access point as the "main" router, and use what was your main router as the access point.
Also you CAN have two DHCP servers on the same subnet as long as their "scopes" - the range of IP addresses they dish out - DON'T overlap. Large networks usually have multiple DHCP servers for redundancy. Machines simple get an IP address from which ever one replies first.
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Great video! Your video filled in a few of the small details that made all the difference! Thanks for posting.
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you can easily use 'bridge' option with same wifi channel with both routers set to keep same ssid , not a big deal!
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Of all the videos I have watched (5+) this is absolutely the best. You answered all my questions and clarified some confusion left by other tutorials (including my routers’ documentation). I do not understand the thumbs down. For one of the most comprehensive videos, they should all be thumbs up in my opinion. Thank you for posting this.
It really helped.
I figured a way to setup 2 different routers (DLink & tenda) at my ground floor & first floor separately without compromising speed & network range.
Thank you so much.
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MEHUL GANDHI did it give you full range as I’m thinking of doing this as my wifi is dropping alot
Great Video! Was able to set everything up perfectly.
However, you mentioned that wireless channel be used are 1,6, and 11. This only applies for 2.4 GHz?
I noticed that 5.0 GHz has channels that are different and much higher values. What would you suggest the channel be for those or does it not matter in 5.0 GHz?
I think it doesn't matter in 5ghz I looked it up, from what I understand 5ghz uses DFS which is Dynamic Frequency Selection which kind of always avoids interference
I think the choice is 36 , 40, 44, 48.
Hey mate, I have run through your instruction and the modems are talking but no internet on the secondary. I can log into the secondary modem via 192.168.1.2 and everything is as per your instruction but no internet... I have factory reset 3 times with no luck.
Do a factory reset on the secondary router. Follow my video EXACTLY step by step and it will work regardless of what type of routers you are using. The usual reasons for this not working are incorrect IP address on the secondary, DHCP not turned off on the secondary and/or incorrect Ethernet connection between the two routers. It should be LAN port from the primary to LAN port on the secondary. The WAN/Internet port on the secondary should not be used. Another possibility is a bad Ethernet cable. Thank you so much for commenting. I appreciate it greatly. All the best.👍😀
Thanks to this video I was finally able to get a superfast connection between my pc and my pico 4 vr headset in a remote part of my house far away from my original router.. So a thousand thanks!!!!
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This is exactly what I was looking for!
It has been very helpful
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Also you should have just explained that you are merely going to use the 2nd "router" as an "Access Point" and that you should just purchase a dedicated AP to do this as they are built for that an optimized for that unlike these home routers which are made to be 4 in one boxes. Ubiquiti makes some good product especially for a home with the only downside is having to dedicate a machine to be the "controller" for the AP. You can also buy a "cloud key" which is a PC-on-a-stick (literally) and it will run the controller software. It's very powerful and flexible.
Unless you want a switch at the second location (where you are putting the 2nd Router (AP) in this scenario then get an AP.
Will that AP have 4 LAN ports? Thanks.
Old routers are cheaper than those fancy APs.
Most people prob already have a spare router laying about
Two routers on the same subnet, never a good idea; especially if you plan to print or connect to any static configured devices. I also use Ubiquiti hardware and have come to appreciate their approach on functionality, control, remote access, and especially the ability to upgrade any and all their devices hundreds of miles away.
@@cwilson2872 Why not put 2 "routers" on the same subnet? Not sure why you wouldn't want to connect a static-configured device. I think I ought to be able to upgrade any router from anywhere, as long as I have an internet connection where I am and where the router is.
Hi Richard. Thanks for a very well put together tutorial video. It was confidence inspiring and really useful! Great to get some use out of my old router rather than have it languish in a storage box. Wife is impressed to have a stonger signal through the house too. Cheers from Sydney Australia.
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I've been struggling to solve this issue for awhile - you're explanations & guidance made all the difference. Thank you!
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This helps alot. Im trying to connect my router to a modem/router via extender from across the house. The extender is connected to my router with an ethernet cable. It worked well before but its had trouble lately and idk why
Hi Richard- this is an excellent video for sure- thank you for taking the time! The question I have is, is there a way to separate the routers so that they don't share any content? I know they have different SSID's and passwords, but you said they also share content between them. Have a guest quarters set up and don't want to have them access home network and vice versa. Thanks in advance :)
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Great stuff finally i know how to bridge my Netgear to my Synology
Was struggling to setup connectivity between routers. After watching multiple videos, i found this Great video. Thanks Richard for simple step by step explanation. You are great Teacher.
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Hey, great video. What happens if we have the same SSID on both routers but on different channels, say 1 and 11. Will the problem of the device connecting to the router that first answers the call still exist? I don't mind having two separate SSIDs but it would be more convenient if it was just one. Thank you!
Experiment with it. The issue is that the WIFI devices will connect to which ever device responds first not the fastest or strongest signal and it will not let go of that connection until it becomes so weak it can't connect any longer or you disconnect the device manually. Since both SSID's are the same you will never know which router you are actually connected to. Again experiment with it and see what works for you. Thanks.
Thanks for the reply. I ended up setting up two separate SSIDs and I'm having absolutely no problems with it. The video was very descriptive and it was a breeze to follow the steps. Cheers!
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Need your help sir, followed your direction smoothly until I had to obtain address from Cisco E3000 connected viA LAN cable. The address is the same as the Verizon Fios router which I connected to via WiFi . I reset everything and started from step one again to have same results. What am I doing wrong or didn’t do. Regards
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Can I use the other unused LAN ports for wired connection for my desktop. If so how? Do I need to configure something? I'm reffering to the secondary router. TIA
Yes you can use the free LAN ports to connect devices. If the devices are set to get their IP addresses automatically it should just be plug and play. Thank you for watching and commenting. I appreciate it greatly. All the best.👍😀
I have 3 main one is my Bec 6300nel Ridgewave R15 LTE modem wifi on it is crap my main wifi is Netgear Nighthawk AX3000 router hooked to my bec 6300nel Ridgewave R15 LTE modem
I have a second router hooked to Nighthawk AX3000 router Tplink Archer Ax1500 router
Finally a clear instruction video on how to do this! We have our phone socket downstairs and have to connect the router there but I also need router upstairs in the office so that I can plug devices into the routers both downstairs and upstairs. I didn't want to run million cables so with this I can just run one small cable from the router downstairs to the router upstairs. Great video! Thanks!
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The most important thing - turn off the DHCP server on the secondary router!
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Hey Richard, first of all great vid! You've toned it down and made it layman friendly! So cheers and applause for the good work!!!
I have one question though and it would be GREAT help if you help me understand. - So before I stumbled on your video, I did a somewhat similar connection, but the major difference being at 12:10. I plugged in the mid-cable from "Orange Port 1" of "Router 1" to "WAN port" of "Router 2". With this setup, all connections work, i.e. wired and wireless on both routers. The only drawback being the inability to get to "Router 2" configuration page. The IP address automatically picked it up as 10.0.0.1 while the base router is on 192.168.1.1. I assume it's due to DHCP turned ON on Router 2 by default. Right?
So my question is, why not use the WAN port on Router 2 instead of the orange LAN ports?
Hey man, thank you for this video. however, i’d like to know if i can still connect LAN cables to connect my office pc on the 2nd router if i don’t want a wireless connection?
Yes, absolutely just make sure NOT to use the WAN/Internet port. Use any of the LAN ports. Thank you for watching and commenting. I appreciate it greatly. All the best.👍😀
@@richardlloydusa thank you for your quick response. will try it later 🙂
Excellent directions without distractions of annoying music or something else like that. Thank you very much for your expertise in connecting two routers and why this is beneficial. Excellent!!!!!!!
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Thank you Mr. Lloyd We have a hole in wi-fi coverage. This will help.
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i really liked your video cause i was thinking of doing something like this so as to
keep my Fire TV in my bedroom hardwired with extra lan ports for whatever.
But my question is: what's the REAL purpose of doing this with the 2 routers?
The main purpose is to share the internet and extend the network to somewhere in your home or location where it is not currently accessible. Thanks.
As a person who has had someone else set-up all things electronic, THIS was my super basic question and your understandable, succinct answer. Even I could get your wonderful, instructional video. Thank you!!
wouldnt you easily achieve the same thing using a much cheaper ethernet switch? thanks
I respectfully suggest you state the purpose at the beginning of the video for us no techies. Thanks very much for this great video. Michael
You could if all your devices were "Wired", this setup is great if your trying to extend the wireless "wifi" range in the house or property. Example: Say you have a boat house 200' away from your house but you want wifi coverage there..... You could not use a WiFi range extender because to use one of those you have to have overlapping wifi coverage of your main router (the wifi repeater has to be in range of the main wifi router), by doing this it allows you to basically add an additional WiFi hot spot anywhere with in 100 meters (328' using CAT 5E connecting wire) of your main router. You can buy Wifi hot spot devices that also connect to your main router but one of the main disadvantages of those is that they don't usually have the kind of control that a router has, also routers have become so cheap that you can pick up a router for less then $100USD you can even find them at second hand thrift stores for dirt cheap.
EDIT: In the example yes you would have to run a CAT5E cable from the main router to the boat house.
Another excellent and useful tutorial. Thank you Richard
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The step where not getting back into my router interface was said to be normal helped me a TON! I thought something was wrong and kept resetting the router and starting over thinking I did something wrong. Thanks!
Thank you so much for this video, I just recently got everything to work thanks to you :D
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Very good detailed explanation.
Thank you very much for watching and the kind words. All the best.
your the man! this helped me out big time! Thank you!
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I was about to buy a wifi extender for my home but after watching your video, I utilised my old router and its cable and its working pretty great than I've expected. so much thank you for your help. this also helped me to gain some knowledge about some basic router settings.
thanks sir but i have Q > i want use 2 routers on same phone line without connection of 2 routers via cable
i have 2 sockets for same phone line
can i use the other socket to use second router ?
I am not sure what you mean. Routers use LAN cables to connect to each other (not phone lines) and they use RJ45 connectors (Network connectors with 8 leads) phones use RJ11 connectors with 4 leads. Thank you for watching and commenting. I appreciate it greatly. All the best.👍😀
You have an ADSL internet on a phone line. Unfortunately the answer is no. Only one modem or modem/router can connect to your ADSL provider at a time through your phone line.
@@michelpp01 some dal modems like mine have two lines in for two dal connections so technacilly you have two lines in your home ypu could have two different dal lines and do it.
Richard your great! I have a Question: I have a Netgear Nighthawk and in the router settings it has AP mode (Access Point mode) ,
do I still need to do all this?? or do I just turn it on and that's it?? thank you.
I’d like to know the same. Thanks
Thank you. It is exactly what I was looking for
Hi..I like how you kept things straight to the point and didnt muddy the waters with a bunch of nice to know but not necessary to know technical info for the task at hand!
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ok nice to have guide and tnx for your time to doing this ,
now in my case i want(need) to connect the two routers together not with the wire(lan) but with the wifi is this possible ?
i have the primary router connecting to my pc with lan.
i just need to bringe the two routers with the wifi (wireless) not with the lan (wired) like you did , is that possible ?
I have a video on how to do just that here: th-cam.com/play/PLnxXRLSlmSVMHe-1v49Mzh37DcwE0s0a8.html Thank you for watching and commenting. I appreciate it greatly. All the best.👍😀
@@richardlloydusa same requirement , thanks for making the video and sharing the link .
Thanks this has helped me out a lot! Couldn’t figure out how to fix double nat problem! Thanks
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your content is great and pretty helpful!
subscribed!
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Rewatched this video today. After 4 years. It’s a gem♥️
Thank you again🙏
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But from the second router I can connect the computer to internet via wired connection ? Thx.
Yea u can
*Can I plug a PC through a lan cable to the secondary router? Will it work?*
Yes it should work just fine. Make sure you plug into the LAN ports not the Internet/WAN port. Thanks.
So the second rooter can i use it without cable anyware in the house just in plug into the socket ?
With this configuration you will have to connect both routers with a cable. I have many videos showing how to do the same thing using WIFI here: bit.ly/2XQVNkq Thank you for watching and commenting. I appreciate it greatly. All the best.👍😀
What is better? or is it the same? What I need to do is get internet from my neighboorm he is aware of the situation. Is it better with cable or can we do it wit wi-fi, so they cable is not hanging out side?
thanks
Even my Internet Service Provider could not solve the issue I had but you solved it in just 30 minutes. Thank you very much
We have to change the dhcp server so that our secondary router can get IP address outside the dhcp range??
Plz reply
I'm not understanding your question. Your secondary router should have a fixed manually assigned IP address as I show in the video. Please the review the video step by step, exactly as I show. It should work for you. Thank you so much for watching and commenting. I appreciate it greatly. All the best.👍😀
I've connected my 2 routers successfully - thanks. quick question can I plug in a ethernet cable to router 2 and go on the internet - having trouble and wondering is it just the wifi that works on router 2 ?
The wifi and the LAN ports should provide Internet access on both routers. Thank you.
@@richardlloydusa Wifi connection works on 2nd router however Ethernet from 2nd router to desktop computer does not work
Ali Ismael I’m
Having the same issue
I have the same problem. My desktop is connected to 2nd router via wifi atm.
I am facing the same problem. Were you able to figure out what is going wrong? If you have found a fix please share it and help. Thank you.
Excellent. Thank you for a wonderful "how to" video. Exactly what I've needed and was very worried about doing it. Much more comfortable now to go ahead with it. AND I have your video ready to watch again if I make any mistakes!! ;-)
Many thanks for this. I need a second router in my shed where I have a network cable running from the house router for a camera, but I wanted to connect that cable into a 'shed router' so I could connect the old camera and add another camera. After searching around this explained it all perfectly simply for me, a total non computer techy person!!
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Great video.... But i want to have the same wi-fi. So the second one is like the access point. Do you know how to do that?
The second one is acting as an access point and you can set it to the same SSID as the primary but as I stated in the video if there is overlap between the two routers there is no guarantee that you will end up connected to the nearest router. Now if the second router is not within WiFI range of the first router then you can use the same SSID for both routers without issue. Thanks.
IT/networking major here. You should actually completely disable wifi on the second router. This is for 2 reasons: 1. two wifi signals on the same frequency (2.4 or 5ghz) creates interference. This CAN be avoided by setting each wifi network to run on different channels that dont overlap, though there is still no reason to do this. If you set both networks to the same SSID and credentials, you will only stay connected to one of them. Lets say you have one router downstairs and one upstairs. you come home and your phone connects to the router with the strongest signal (likely the downstairs one) you go upstairs and your signal gets weaker, but now you have a nice strong signal from the upstairs router right? No. Your phone will stay connected to the first one. You would manually have to change to the other one. There are wfi range extending devices for this purpose that DO swtich to the AP (access point) with the strongest signal. This is called a roaming network. This is still not perfect, because much of it is still up to the device to switch, but thats becoming a necessary thing for developers to start working on) So my piece of advice, place your main router on a mid level foor (or just generally central in the home if only one level) and configure your wireless network from that. Disable the wireless radios entirely and use a second router only to add additional ethernet ports. Even still, there are devices to do this for much cheaper than buying a second router. Get a small unmanaged desktop switch if you need more things hardwired. TP link has a great 5 or 8 port switch for like $20. Theres on sitting on my desk right now and it's great. Let me know if you have any questions.
Thank you.
I agree with Tyler Garrison. Your method, while possible, is completely unnecessary. This is configuration (regarding dual NAT and Dual DHCP), is detrimental to real time communications, such as voice and video. I would suggest that you consider desktop switches as mentions above and/or wireless AP's if you believe you need better wireless control.
Though, if you insist on connecting multiple routers, you should atleast, place all slave routers to either AP mode or Bridge mode, this will essentially convert them to switches with wifi radios.
Network certified, 15 years experience. I don't know where to begin, so I'm just going to re-explain it instead.
You *can* have multiple APs on the same network with the same SSIDs and credentials, you'll just want to put them on different channels to avoid interference and grant the best connectivity (though not *always* necessary - depends on the number of clients). However, how and when your device switches over to the next strongest AP is *DEVICE* specific. A *good* wireless adapter will be seamless. This is because, despite the APs having the same SSID, they have different MAC addresses, and thus are seen as different APs to the actual device. Where some older/cheaper WiFi devices can fail is channel-hopping, not just AP-hopping. That is to say: they stick to the same AP *because* you're using multiple channels, which would be where just using the same channel despite the performance hit might be worth it.
Additionally, there's no real difference between a repeater and a second AP as far as what the WiFi device sees: they are 2 MAC addresses with the same SSID and it picks the stronger one.
If what you said were true, organizations with wide AP networks would not be able to work. Yes, larger organizations might use centralized WiFi controllers, but that doesn't change the AP-client relationship.
Additionally, WiFi, like any radio signal, radiates horizontally way more than vertically, making it sometimes practical to have an AP to service each floor of the building.
Also, I'm going to guess this is for people who have upgraded or otherwise come into possession of a second router - I wouldn't recommend necessarily going out and buying a second router just to do this, either, but sometimes that's still the easiest solution, especially if you need the extra port. A small business or non-profit might also use this method to be cheap, but effective.
Great Video, thank you so-much, it help me so much
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Hi there!
Will my devices automatically connect to either router when I'm close to it or do I have to select the closes router every time?
Your devices will connect automatically (as long as they are set to do so) to which ever router responds first again as long as you have created a WIFI link to that router. Thank you so much for watching and commenting. I appreciate it greatly. All the best.👍😀
Your devices like smart phone you need to put password first then second time your devices will automatic connect if the first router not working next one will instead, just like you go to your office if you already set your password every time you go to office will automatic using office network.
I have video show how to make RJ45 connector if you like can take a look, Thank you,
If both devices are set with the same SSID and same password, then the short answer would be "Yes" but it would depend on your configuration, if it is set to roaming etc. but the if they both have different IP schemes then "no" you would have to log off one to log in to the other one.
I followed your steps four times before I figured out that I need to tell the 2nd router not to use a password for the internet. Once I did that everything worked a treat. Thanks for the great video.
Maybe be there are some routers that need the extra step. My second router was a netgear D3600. My first was NBN Fibre Optic supplied by my internet provider.
Is it also possible to get Internet from the second router per LAN, right? Not only Wi-Fi, yes? :D Anyway very good explained video, i was looking for kind of those for most of time, thank god you are here. :D
Yes the LAN ports will supply Internet access. You are most welcome. Thank you for watching, commenting and the kind words. All the best.
Yes, if you plug into the blue lan port. You will get your DHCP from either the second router (if you did not shut off DHCP) and that will give you IP issues. But if you configure your 2nd 3rd and every toher router with DHCP off. It will get your DHCP from the primary router. If that makes sense to you.
Wi-Fi (AKA WLAN) is a Wireless version of LAN (Wired). Thus, it should be Yes.
@@cathybetter2245 LAN Ports differ in colour on multiple routers. Our home network router has a blue WAN (Internet) port, which is a port for a connection to an Internet source, usually a modem. Besides that, maybe I'll try your method and see if one of my routers on hand will fetch IP addresses from the main router.
Thanks Richard. I accomplished this setup of two routers wired together with LAN cable. I used my Securify Almond wireless and my TP-Link C7 wireless router. Note I didn't have to install the DD-WRT firmware to accomplish the task. I did try it with the DD-WRT firmware for my particular TP-Link C7 but kept getting a problem of not being able to access (log in to) the TP-Link C7 after installing the DD-WRT upgrade.(Still not sure why this was happening because I used the correct version 1). Finally I got bricked out of my C7 completely and thought it was junk until I discovered another video and your video on how to UNBRICK almost any router...( th-cam.com/video/ZW5fpOWpI0I/w-d-xo.html ) I used the TFTP method and it worked Great! Saved my TP-Link from the dump! I actually performed the UNBRICK 4 times and with perfect success each time after bricking it. I DID get the TP-Link C7 to work without the DD-WRT upgrade. I only updated to the latest TP-Link firmware version, (which is what I was using to un-brick it with using TFTP each time) Have had the LAN wired extension working now for over a week. No problems. I want to mention that when I was getting the DD-WRT firmware for my C7 it states there is no coming back to OEM firmware if you brick the C7. That's NOT true if a person uses the TFTP process. As I said, I un-bricked mine 4 times. Just wanted to get this out there because I suspect there are many people junking good routers due to the lack of knowledge on how to un-brick.
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Hi, when I go to my secondary router and enter the IP address it tells me its invalid and i can't do any thing. trying to change it from 192. 168. 0. 1 to 102.168.1.2 (primary was changed to 192.168.1.20) can you help me please
can anyone address this issue? My Linksys router will not accept the change from 192.168.1.1 to 192.168.0.2 (to match my main routers 192.168.0.xxx profile
It's because both your routers dhcp settings belong on the same subnet. If your 1st router belongs to 192.168.1.0 with a mask of 255.255.255.0, the 2nd router should be 192.168.2.0 subnet mask of 255.255.255.0
I'm not gonna get into the details of it but routers have separate broadcast domains. Just go to the DHCP settings of the 2nd router and change it to 192.168.2.0 subnet 255.255.255.0
Concise and precise. You're a scholar in teaching! I didn't even have to finish the whole thing to get the gist of it
thank you, this really helped
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I tried this method, but I am getting an error message stating, "The IP address conflicts with the WAN IP subnet. Please enter a different IP address"...
I'm using a Westell DSL wireless modem, and want to connect my Netgear R6400 1750 up to it as an extension...
Which router is giving you that message? You should not be using the WAN port on the secondary router. Thanks.
Make sure not to touch the wan settings of the second router. I made the mistake to go through the setup wizard which set up the wan.
Richard Lloyd WHY ??? LOVE THE VIDEO THO
When i change my ip address for the second router i can't log in to fix the wireless settings
i dont know much but are you sure you have actually changed it and clicked apply there change or whatever it is, and are you sure to type in the new IP, if unsure what it is, check in the control panel like he did
Richard, I wanted to thank you for this class. you helped me revive an "old" Netgear C7000v2 modem/router now I can use it as an AP
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You used straight through cable to connect those 2 routers?
Yes, most modern routers do not require a cross over cable anymore as they auto negotiate. Thank you for watching and commenting. I appreciate it greatly. All the best.👍😀
those channels are for 2,4 and what abou 5,0GHZ????
Some old routers may not have dual-band technology. The router I set up in my bedroom is 2.4GHz only.
Thanks!
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