How to Beat Samus / Dark Samus

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 เม.ย. 2023
  • This is a continuation of my "How to beat" series. Following Inkgling & Greninja, now it's Samus' turn
    Here is a guide on how to fight aganist Samus and Dark Samus.
    These characters are famous for being annoying to play agains, however, I believe that this is mostly because we lack an understanding of their weaknesses and options in the neutral game.
    In the video I provide a brief summary of what to expect from the Samus players on every situation. Or at least, the most important ones.
    This is simple, but it's strays away from all the basic stuff that you see on TH-cam, Twitter, and reddit.
    The key is to learn what to do with Samus is using charge shot. By identifying what they are going for, we can keep them from playing the game they want.
    I've also included tips for edge guard and general, usefull information that I've gathered by studying the character.
    Enjoy!
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  • @xGatoDelFuegox
    @xGatoDelFuegox ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This is an excellent guide, you have a good understanding of what samus wants in the matchup and how to beat the base level. To reiterate: samus is a COUNTER-OFFENSIVE character. They thrive on intercepting an approach option and converting on it for big damage. As you say, the downside to this is that these are commital, risky options.
    First, you should generally pick FD against samus if they leave it open. It is samus's worst stage. The reason for this, is samus has very poor disadvantage state. If you are in advantage, GET SAMUS IN THE AIR! Samus has no move that allow her to land safely, samus is very floaty, and samus is heavy, meaning they are combo food once above somebody. Of course there are still risks (down air is strong!), but it is where samus is most uncomfortable. This should be your goal every time.
    A point with fast characters: the fact that you can enter and leave samus's burst range multiple times is VERY good. Fox is so good in this matchup for reasons like jumping in, jumping out, and punishing commital options (like screw attack). You must win the game of patience vs samus, and know how to punish her whiffs.
    For the ledge trap. What you must know is that bomb, if properly placed, will cover EVERY get up option (besides roll). Get up attack will have you invincible through the attack, so you can trade but will still get hit by the bomb. If you WAIT on the ledge, you will usually avoid the first bomb placed. However, the higher your percent, the shorter your invincibility time while hanging, so the bomb may catch you. Generally samus will cover roll in this scenario with charge shot, so you have no good options. In that specific scenario, you can try drop down + double jump to avoid bomb and escape, but you will regrab in these scenarios. If the samus notices you hanging and drops two bombs, you can mash roll to get through both. Bomb has a lot of end lag, so you can always roll through if they drop two bombs and you react to this. However, the samus can mix this up if you do it too early. All part of the mindgame!
    If samus's bomb placement is even slightly off (as in it is farther from the ledge), you will be able to jump over with some characters. Punish weak samuses that do not place the bomb correctly. Also, if the samus SHORT hops before bombing, then the bomb will bounce and not hit the ledge hang. You can use this to hurt weaker samuses (note that a full hop bomb will still detonate at the ground level and cover the hang).
    In end, to beat the ledge trap, you must mix up roll, get up attack, wait & hang, and perfectly timed neutral get up during the explosion. Almost all of these options will lose to a single choice from samus (usually, charge shot or up tilt), so it's a very poor RPS scenario, but you must give yourself a chance. NEVER mash that neutral get up right away! Never roll when they are charging! You are asking for a stock loss.

    • @geekingproperly1288
      @geekingproperly1288  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I just pinned this. Appreciate the knowledge, and the comment!

  • @Zombie5675
    @Zombie5675 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I watched this and beat my first samus in elite smash

    • @geekingproperly1288
      @geekingproperly1288  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is just awesome to read! Thank you! I have more ideas coming up

  • @LPMasterRob
    @LPMasterRob ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That was really good! Also snake would be interesting

    • @geekingproperly1288
      @geekingproperly1288  ปีที่แล้ว

      I appreciate it man! How to beat Snake will be up later today!

  • @B3rT286
    @B3rT286 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This was a great guide

    • @geekingproperly1288
      @geekingproperly1288  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks man! I paused the "How to beat" series for a while, but it will come back eventually, with some interesting MUs. Once again, thanks for the comment, thank you for the sub, and have an awesome day!

  • @fernandodaniel010
    @fernandodaniel010 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    FINALLY for 4 years I've been waiting for someone to explain how to deal with Samus , thanks man you're analysis is great! If you have more tips on how to deal with Samus maybe a video explaining Samus' bomb setups that would be great ! Keep it up, liked and subscribed :D very good stuff

    • @geekingproperly1288
      @geekingproperly1288  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hey! I didn't properly respond to this because I knew I was going to be out for a while.
      First of all, I really appreciate the comment and the feedback, it's what keeps me going!
      I think you'll enjoy the lates one I published. I believe it kind of shows what all of us went through when we started. Hope you enjoy it! And share it if you like it!
      Once again, thank you!

  • @Scrap802
    @Scrap802 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    definitely helpful, more like this

    • @geekingproperly1288
      @geekingproperly1288  ปีที่แล้ว

      I appreciate the comment! How to Beat Snake will be up later today.
      Have a great day!!

  • @rubenjackson9425
    @rubenjackson9425 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    La bola me parece un proyectil demasiado injusto. Es un hit que hace demasiado daño con solo pulsar un botón, y en la mayoría de los casos no te da tiempo a reaccionar. Encima a medio cargar puede dar combo a otros ataques.
    Buen vídeo, saludos.

    • @geekingproperly1288
      @geekingproperly1288  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Gracias por el comentario! 100% es un projectil muy fuerte y facil de usar.
      Pero si logras quitarle ese jueguito, Samus se desmorona. Pero mas facil dicho que hecho.
      Tengo unos videos nuevos que capaz te gustan. No son "how to beat" pero ojala los disfrutes!
      El proximo sale esta semana.

  • @negi2753
    @negi2753 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tuto de Robin porfa

    • @geekingproperly1288
      @geekingproperly1288  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lo hablamos en persona, pero te respondo por aca por que lo estaba pensando. Ese se viene! Pero voy a sacar unas cosas cool que he tenido en mente desde hace un tiempo primero y luego le doy con ese

  • @michael-hj8el
    @michael-hj8el ปีที่แล้ว +1

    joker please!

    • @geekingproperly1288
      @geekingproperly1288  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for the comment brother! I have a couple of videos on cue, but keep this in mind!
      I would have to do more research though, because I think i mostly beat joker because I main Pikachu. I want to do it so that every character can apply a game plan.
      I will keep you posted!

  • @cesarsilva3536
    @cesarsilva3536 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Comenta "Gracias CarvaGrease" para que más nunca te peguen bomba en el ledge

    • @geekingproperly1288
      @geekingproperly1288  ปีที่แล้ว

      jajaja me encantaria dar un mejor tip que ese, pero ese ledge trap es muy bueno. Por ahora Gracias CarvaGrease y a estarse pilass.
      Gracias por el comment siempre broo!

  • @Ki-sf5kt
    @Ki-sf5kt ปีที่แล้ว +1

    P R O M O S M 🌟

  • @marty7681
    @marty7681 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    :)

    • @geekingproperly1288
      @geekingproperly1288  ปีที่แล้ว

      Happy to see you here man. What did you think? "Still usefull" as well?

    • @marty7681
      @marty7681 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@geekingproperly1288 Yeah really useful, now it's time to practice the advices

    • @geekingproperly1288
      @geekingproperly1288  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@marty7681 awesome 👍. How to beat snake will be up soon.

  • @aperfectcreation
    @aperfectcreation ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Smash Bogotá in shambles

    • @geekingproperly1288
      @geekingproperly1288  ปีที่แล้ว

      haha are there too many Samus' there? Thank you for the comment, and the retweet brother! I took a look at your videos and sets! Count on me!

  • @docdoggo
    @docdoggo ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Samus is usually considered mid tier

    • @geekingproperly1288
      @geekingproperly1288  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think he was considered a mid tier, but I've seen it higher in all the recent tier lists