its so companies can sell your data. People should flat out refuse to use any charging stations that require an app. If you have to use them, ensure you use a burner email or an email alias incase of a data breach and just to stop data brokers selling you out lol
I recently got the Macan 4. This car is fantastic inside and out. I love this car over any car (EV or ICE) that I have owned. The ride quality, handling, performance is perfect for me and my family. I do not worry about range as when it is cold if you loose range you can recharge back to approx. 470 KM on 90% in about 20 mins charge. Note that the range you get partially depends on your driving style, tire size (I have the 20 inch rims), etc. and the initial calibration the car goes through, but that is what I get. I do charge at home most of the time but even so the fast charging rate is impressive. I optioned for the rear axle steering (RAS) and view it as a great feature as it makes parking and in town maneuvering fun and super easy. The short turning radius is amazing. I even notice the RAS on the highway during lane changes. This car stays glued to the road in any condition. I noticed some commenters lamenting about ICE cars. I have to say I disagree. EVs have no smelly gas or gas stations to visit, instant torque and with low noise and super low maintenance costs (no 12 v lead acid battery, exhaust, fuel or oil filters, belts, etc.). Also this car makes the ICE Macan feel old and slow...and the new Macan EV gives a bit more room in the back so now an adult can actually sit in the back unlike with the ICE Macan. .Also, I am not a fan of EV one peddle driving though. I like that Porsche avoided that and I do prefer the physical buttons they have over the "do everything on a screen" Tesla experience as i think its too distracting. Anyway, that is my 2 cents. If you want a great driving car, EV or ICE, this is it. That is my review of "living with the Porsche Macan"
Found the standard suspension on the new Macan quite rough, do you have the air suspension? Standard suspension on Taycan vs Macan the Taycan was much more comfortable
@@CinemaAtv Hi, Yes in North American Air Suspension is standard. Even if it was not i would have still optioned it as I was fed up with the Tesla Model Y rough spring suspension. I did try the refresh Model 3 that had "improved" but still steel spring suspension and it was not really much better. I did not try a Macan with steel suspension (it would have had to be an ICE Macan). In any case, not only is the ride exceptionally smooth you can raise and lower the car which I have done in steep parking lots to avoid scraping the front. I found the off road setting a bit bouncy but still useful for rough terrain. I drive on Normal (mostly) and Sport (sometimes) and you can feel the difference. Highly recommended. I also have the 18 way seats and together there is no better ride than this car.
@@user-gz6tx6yp3v "The U.S. Department of Energy predicts today's EV batteries ought to last a good deal past their warranty period, with these packs' service lives clocking in at between 12 and 15 years if used in moderate climates. Plan on a service life of between eight and 12 years if your EV is regularly used in more extreme conditions" Since most car s are fully depreciated by then and maybe worth 10-20% of their original cost the concern in moot as you will likely just buy another car at that point. On a side note replacement cost for a gas engine (with a new engine is over 10K plus labor) and you likely need to replace the exhaust and the transmission (if your putting that much into it) so 14 - 20K all in. The cost of replacing a Tesla battery is ...13 to 20 K. More importantly the battery does not just die but degrades and you only need to replace cells (in the Macan battery if need be) not the entire battery to restore to full range. Even if you do nothing you are still going to get 70% of the original range so you just keep driving it past 15 years or the same length of time you would likely need to replace an ICE engine or spend $$$ on an overhaul. This does not include 12 years of engine maintenance on an ICE engine which you do not have to do with a battery. Some points to consider anyway.
@@capcohan931This is not a Taycan, it's a Macan. The new 2025 Taycan charges at over 300kW to around 65% SoC and then around 220kW to 75% SoC. Most charging stops are only 10 to 12 minutes long. That's not much longer than filling up with gas. So yes, the Taycan has more than improved since then.
That would be what you would have to pay on a road trip but you could charge it at home for almost £7 worst case 0-100% no brainer for 240miles in the winter 260 maybe more in the summer
Do you fuel your daily driver with VP Racing Fuel? It's about using the right tool for the job. Obviously the 300kW charger is extreme fast charging when you need to do 250 miles in a moments notice. Vast majority of the time people will use slower cheap chargers when you don't have to drive 300 miles in one day.
EVs don't work if you're reliant on rapid chargers. That's not breaking news. For the most part, they only work for people who can charge at home. But for those people, EV tariffs can translate into £4 for those 200 miles. No, that's not an exaggeration - 8p/kWh in a car that does 4mi/kWh, you do the maths. Even if you double that for a thirsty Macan with a lead-footed driver, £8 is still peanuts for 200 miles. Insurance and tyres cost me more than electricity for my EV. That's in spite of a decent number of road trips, with ~20% of my charging being rapid - that still makes for an average cost of under 15p/kWh, or 4p/mile. Pointing out the high cost of rapid charging is entirely fair, but plenty of petrolheads will do that and ignore or omit the flipside of that coin, which is either ignorant or intentionally dishonest.
@@stuartbrowning3074 £52 with a Macan S, super unleaded prices over the past year we can average at £1.60. £52 would get half a tank. You'd be averaging 28.41mpg. Really not so bad considering it's got a nice amount of grunt and nears 2T with a driver 😁
Sam, you have become a part of my Sunday morning ritual, over coffee. These have recently launched in the US and are not flying out of the show rooms, (yet). I am a current Macan GTS owner and the EV just simply does not fit my use case but I am sure that they drive and perform well. It is a Porsche after all.
Live in Rancho Mirage Southern California, run house on solar panels. We have a EV mustang crossover. Works great! Just charge it at home station. Fast quiet nice space inside.
…..I’m in Calabasas with a similar situation. But, I DO have sympathy for people I know who live in Butte, Montana (22 degrees there yesterday), and they say they could NEVER have an EV in their COLD conditions, and the fact Montana I’d HUGE, and they’re driving over 3-400 miles a day to visit friends and family in other Montana towns. To sum up…..it’s VERY GOOD to be able to afford to live in WARM, SUNNY Southern California!!! 😎🥂😀
@@exploremore2871 Me too, except when that car is an EV and owning all EVs is a terrible experience unless you charge it at home, never go more than 30 min from your house, and are comfortable with everyone assuming you have two vaginas for some reason.
I really don't know why people obsess over depreciation. Cars depreciate. It's pretty common knowledge. That's why I really don't understand why people cash buy a car. Would you buy a house if it depreciated? PCP a car otherwise you're a fool.
@@1510km Depends on the depreciation ratio, EVs have a much higher depreciation ratio which can be very important for those leasing or especially buying every 5 or so years. If you plan on keeping the car forever, then nevermind.
Ive been subscribed to your channel for absolutely ages, and have to say you are one of the only TH-cam car reviewers who has the balls to be honest about the improvement in electric cars... sure I love a v 8 but e-vs are good too.
Good, but... Too many buts still. They are fast but heavy, and I don't think I have to tell anyone what that means in terms of driving dynamics, braking, tyre wear, etc. The batteries are getting better, but they still degrade over time. There are good cheaper EVs now but they still cost too much and lose a ton in depreciation. The charging network's getting better, but it's still a pain in the butt. The charging network's getting better, but EVs still aren't a viable option for someone without their own parking space and charger. And some EVs look great, but most are ugly af because of the drag coefficient and the large space the battery occupies. Other negatives would be the dependence on all the tech in the car and the fact that the battery is by far the most expensive part and if anything's goes wrong with the battery your car is practically totalled.
He doesnt own a single EV that he bought with his own money. Why is that? Most likely because if he were being honest he would say they are not good products and therefore when he says "I would buy one of these myself" he is in fact talking absolute shite.
We live in a bipolar world. Everything is like marmite. But electric is an option as is an ICE, hybrid is a good compromise, with hydrogen on its way. TH-camrs are entertaining some are even considered influencers .. so trolling them probably won’t help anyone, so perhaps let them do their thing. We can’t all agree on everything. 😂
@@barbarusbloodshed6347 Sounds similar to points made a century ago. "There are no proper roads for those horseless contraptions, and all they do is leave a cloud of dust when they pass by, or spray mud all over pedestrians after a rain." "There's no place to get that dangerous, exploding stuff they need other than pharmacies." "And that stuff catches fire so easily, congress is looking to ban it." "They can only go 10 or 15 miles and run out of it, and need some more." "They make all those explosion noises spooking horses and pedestrians alike." "Everybody is left choking from all those foul fumes they constantly emit." "They're much too fast and unsafe. So many people are going to be hurt or killed by them." "People are being maimed just trying to start them." "No one knows how to use them. You might as well need a degree just to learn." "They constantly break down, and you need to be a brain surgeon to know how to fix them." "Those new air wheel tire things they use are always getting punctured from horseshoe nails, leaving you stranded." "And worse of all, no one can afford them. They cost more than 3 or 4 full years worth of wages for the average working man."
Got told for the New Zealand market that the “old” one will be available to buy for another year or two along side the new one. In some places the old one can’t be sold anymore due to regulations. The new platform was developed as the old platform couldn’t support any further power upgrades.
So, plan your lunch venue around a charging facility. Find none of the chargers are in service or the app doesn’t work. Then have to go out of your way to find another charging centre. Sit around for 40 minutes while charging. Pay a premium price for fast charging, which is probably no cheaper than diesel of petrol. Then after wasting about an hour dicking about trying to find and use electricity you can finally relax snd head home later than you had planned. 230 mile range! What a joke. Huge depreciation. No second hand market. Porsche won’t want it back in part exchange! The joys of electrification! Not for me. Never will be. And I’ll be dead before they sort it all out. Thankfully I can leave the planet still driving fire breathing monsters that fit in with my life rather than altering my days and travel around finding the lesser spotted almost extinct functioning charging point! Loved the video though👍👍👍
It’s a damn shame this inept government can’t see this and instead is trying to force this down us and manufacturers throats. It’s so stupid when we let people who have drivers and don’t actually drive themselves in charge of driving related stuff
I've driven my old ev over to Switzerland now issues charging over 1k miles as I have had a previous ev so I fully know how to operate and find chargers. Now there is no real need to download an app using upto date chargers. All I use is rapid while on a road trip and convenient when using the toilets or stopping for food.. Once practiced it is easy.
Coming from a die hard ICE & air cooled life. I have a GT3 & 71 911T. My wife has an inbound Macan EV. It’s the perfect platform for electric. Keep the sports cars ICE.
I think fundamentally you do need to have a home charger for any EV and the superchargers for trips and longer travel as the per mileage charge at a charging station is either the same or more per mile compared to gas. With that, it’s so nice to never have to worry about filling up in the morning or stopping in the middle of the day. For home charging in the US, I avg about $50-70 for over 1000 miles driven per month.
Interesting, that seems very expensive to be honest. My VW Golf station wagon on natural gas (i bought it new like that, no conversion) only cost about 35eur for 1000km, which is less than 40$… that was before Ukraine war, idk how much exactly it is now but it is more. I though EVs are basically free if you charge at home… and i though you have cheaper energy in USA.. how much are you paying for kwh?
Thanks, reaffirmed my recent decision to buy a hybrid over an EV. When I come to look again in 4/5 years I'm hopeful(!) the charging situation will have been sorted. Famous last words?
ZERO chance I ever going to change my V6 macan to an EV macan. Not going to happen. Numbers don't give you emotions, smile / mile. Also the ICE looks much better.
We test drive the EV Macan almost 2 months ago. Besides you can instantly feel the extra weight at just under 2500kg it drives really well. The electronics mask the extra weight very well. Your right it’s styling is a step up on the old model and the interior is also a step up. What isn’t welcome is the large step up in price and the projected monthlies which will keep folks from buying them. The dual motor performance models genuinely have a good range at last.
@@peterbest5938 2,5T way too much, electronics can mask it up to a degree, for average driving. But I like spirited driving. This days... 2,5T M5, 2,3T C63, bad joke. ICE Macan with 1,9T is already heavy enough, and also masking it pretty well. Macan S was £65k base price, comfortable, reasonably fast, fun, connected, can fit the family, sounds good with factory sport exhaust, ticks soooo many boxes for that price. You can drive to Scotland, Nurburgring, no range anxiety, charger busy, next one not working, 3rd one wont start charging, 4th one is slow and you waiting 1,5 hours... If somebody can fit it in their life, and willing to pay the premium, go ahead. Not for me.
“Why not?” !!! I think you answered your own question. Serious range stress every 230 miles. Driving 15 miles out of your way to find a charging station that worked. Waiting 30+ minutes to fill on the fastest possible charger. Residual values through the floor. 10 grand more expensive than the combustion equivalent. How you can be “positive” about it after your little test, baffles me…..!
Um...maybe because you are focusing on all its potential negative aspects. Have you driven the car? I get it if you cannot charge it at home and the infrastructure in your area is poor but that is an issue for all EVs not just this one. The range he is reporting is anecdotal as I get over 460 - 470 km on 90% charge after an initial setting in time. This video (and others) give a different story. th-cam.com/video/dkRbPIV5kAo/w-d-xo.html. Cheers.
@@shawnmaynard3677 so with 90% you get more range than Porsche claims for 100%? Or are you owning a different car? Not sure i understand
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I’ve driven an EV for the past three years, and have only ever had a problem finding charging on one occasion - on Christmas Eve at a motorway service station. The key to any journey is to do a bit of planning beforehand if you’re going to be using public charging - I drive a Volvo, and their app is really good in terms of real-time identification of available charging sites. There’s also a decent discount at a lot of charging sites - all of the charging infrastructure on the motorway network is now discounted. Honestly, it’s not as challenging as is often made out!
How often you drive 200 miles+ A lot of people have other car for that too… (I have California) Charging at home gives you amazing aspect of having full tank daily. no need to waste time going to petrol station.
Looks good, not Macan specific but less range if too hot, less range if too cold. Afraid to use AC or heated seats as saps power. Journey potentially takes longer as need to find a charger and then sit twiddling thumbs. Would be way to stressful as well.
You can definitely charge while towing an ev ...problem is you need a massive diesel truck and 2 h/d alternators and then an extremely expensive inverter.....not worth it ...but possible
@@andrewhurstcars how does that invalidate or diminish the point Harry was trying to make? You seem to want to shoot the messenger that there are specific and pertinent issues if you are thinking of buying an EV if you tow a trailer.
@@jahyoda What kind of insane delusions are you talking about. Just use a Pull through charger stall. Cost the same expensive typical DC Fast Charging soo same cost as Petrol.
1:37 to me, range isn’t the biggest issue with EV usability. Long charge time is the issue. Until they can fill up in a few minutes like gas cars, they are a compromise to use daily. (assuming you don’t have a garage with special plug to charge overnight and potentially drive more than around town)
Right next to a petrol station (where normally it takes around 5 mins to fill up) yet has to drive 15 miles (YES 15 miles!!!) to find a sufficient charger. And you’re telling me this is the future 😅😅😅 And still cost £50+, this video has certainly confined electric isn’t for me!!!
Yes, Infrastructure has to grow...like for petrol over the years, decades...but this is a typical british issue...you would not see the same in Germany, since you can find HPCs everywhere.
Do I sense a first crack in the nEVer stance?? Small openings but significant none the less. Good to see it. Too bad the infrastructure isn’t up to the level of the cars. It’s improving but not where it’s needed to be yet. Home charging and local use work very well. Trips requiring charging cause agita. CCS. We’re closer but not there yet. 2 years e ownership here.
@ feels fine. I just plug it in at home at it charges If I have an urgent meeting (has never happened) I just stop at the BP station near my home and the 350 kW chargers there will charge it in 20 minutes. I did that once when my daughter had a plumbing emergency 200 miles away. In my experience (which is limited I accept ie only had it 2 years), the number of times I’ve been inconvenienced by having to charge is pretty much zero in that time.
@@Mark__AJesus you people are ignorant. If he were to have another urgent trip, he could charge back up to 80% (or around 240 miles of range) in 20 mins at a fast charger.
After my endeavors as a beta tester for Porsche Taycan (2019 production), I’m convinced not to ever again fork out the money for a premium EV. Simply there’s no value in «premium» EVs like there were in premium gas powered cars. Now it’s all just electrons moving about and the same motors and batteries from the same manufacturers. And yes, I drive a Kia EV6 GT as a daily beater now. And yes, I still have a petrol Porsche in the garage.
Well said and same here. EV6 GT as the family car and 718 GTS 4.0 for the rare weekends I find the time to go on a drive. Never would I buy a Taycan or Macan that‘s losing the value of a whole EV6 GT in the first year.
It's like buying a premium quartz watch, you're basically paying for the bracelet and the brand name. In this case you're paying only for the chassis and brand name. These cars are all disposable trash and they aren't even premium. What is so premium about having such pitiful range? Even supercars will easily out-mile these days.
But if you have driven the Macan or Q6 in comparison, you might have realised that they still give you a premium feel compared to others... premium in the EV market still defines the same aspects as during the ICE era
I don't think that was 14 minutes, but rather the time by which the car would be charged 14:49 (2.49pm), which makes more sense as the time displayed on the clock is 14:15, making that a charge time of 35 minutes.
I have not checked the kerb weight as a macan owner they appear to be build very well compared to our Tesla its on another level really. But I will agree the Porsche should really do better infact should be class leading.
Tesla have been doing EVs for a long time, other mainstream brands haven’t. My 2 Taycans (Gen.1), gave me an average of 2.7 miles/kWh. The Gen. 2 version is improved and people are quoting 3.5 miles/kWh. So better, but not up to Tesla levels of efficiency.
If the car isn't at 100% battery when you wake up in the morning having charged up overnight while you slept then your review is not in any way representative of the reality of living with it for people who actually own one. In the real world you wouldn't have had to stop to charge at all for this journey, and you'd have saved 90%+ of that charging cost too.
That first issue with the points being out of service with no notification is exactly why EVs are not practical yet unless you can guarantee being able to charge at home.
WTF that's NOT POSSIBLE! The non turbo has 300 miles real world range. If you drive 150 mile every single day don't bother with a BEV. But that 150 miles of daily commute range accounts for vast majority of people.
I think people were looking at the Macans colour . Not a bad looking car , EVs are not for me , but that being said , my next Cayenne will be a Hybrid. Like most people 90% of my car usage is local and a tank of fuel would probably last me months . Hybrids are the future , most people’s trips each day can be done on 30 or 40 mile range , and if you want to stretch your legs on a road trip your not at a disadvantage with a Ev. Oh and thanks for showing me the U.K. I don’t miss it at all lol .
Another informative and interesting video. It confirms all the fears about the lamentable charging situation in our country at the moment. Imagine your first charging experiencing happening in the North, where I live, with far fewer charging stations or in the highlands, or even worse, Northern Ireland! The infrastructure has far, far to go before EVs can really be considered viable for all. In the interim the upscaling of sustainable fuels should be supported by government. This could make a much more rapid impact on vehicle emissions, without the issues of damaging the planet further with production of excess new vehicles too.
Because this audience is brainwashed with absurd nonsense. My favorite script soo far is "EVs are much heavier thus road wear is worse". When a BMW 3 Series and Model 3 have negligible weight difference, while a Model Y is 100 LBs heavier than a BMW X3. Even Sam can see this is very unhealthy behaviour with the audience.
Love the review! Californian here (waiting for delivery of a Macan electric in January) - we have decent infrastructure for public charging here, but even so, I don’t think I’m ready to be a 100% committed to an EV. Keep ICE cars when range is a concern. Charging will be handled from home (we also have solar installed). But I’m picking the car up near Los Angeles (my preferred dealer) and immediately have a 300+ miles to get home, so will have the charging anxiety out of the gate!
Imagine spending all that money on an EV and it's a lie. The range is always a lie. It would be like buying a 911 with 390hp but it actually has 290hp. You're rich and you're just throwing money away on a lie
Is it? I think that is a bad compare… Look instead at tha 911 that will do 0-60 in 4 sec… Try that on snow and claim you have been foolwd. It is a lie! It cannot do it in 4 sec!!! It will do it in 10 sec!A scandal!
I only clicked on this video to support the channel but it ended up being surprisingly informative, in the sense that it confirms none of us wanting or needing an electric Macan. Appreciate the consumer advice and your filming as always!
Had you planned your trip, you would have known the rapid chargers were out of order. I have my charging apps set-up and stored in a folder on my home screen. This way, everything runs smoothly.
Thank goodness they made space for the frunk - they’ll be able to drop a petrol engine I: the front with minimal engineering. I bet Porsche have already done the engineering.
NO, this is the PPE (Premium Platform Electric), a pure EV Platfrom and no ICE would fit in...the Audi Q6 is the same platform shared with Porsche. The ICE is only still sold in UK and US, since this antique Electronic Architecture does not fullfill the Cybersecurity Rules of EU anymore...production was stopped on 1.7.
I bought a Taycan 2 months ago. It’s a great handling, riding and looking car. It’s missing any form of soul though. The fact that it doesn’t have an engine, just takes so much away from it😢 Will be getting a v8 amg next time!
For our 2nd car we bought a ex display Jaguar I Pace with 11000 miles on a 23 plate, it cost £38k from £72k 14 months previously. It’s real world Range is 250-60, we have a home wall box, and overnight charging is incredibly cheap. However I very rarely venture on journeys more than 100 miles, I just take my F Type, we took both our cars to our holiday home in a Cornwall, the F Type took 3 hours, as the I Pace had to change, due to availability issues it took 5 hours...😢
Sam, you seemed to appreciate the EV Macan, yet nor desire one? Were you not excited by the experience of the new style of drive train? I was, even as a confirmed petrol head, I was genuinely thrilled by the way the EV I bought drove and still find it very rewarding to drive.
As a petrol head it makes no sense but as a company car driver it’s very attractive. I sense Sam had made his mind up before driving it, that certainly came across to me. As with a lot of Sam’s content he would benefit with being challenged more, plenty of people would offer a different opinion if he asked.
EVs are like smartphones..despite each brand having different design, the underlying technology is identical just like how phones from different brands run on the same Android OS. A 500hp EV from a premium brand like Porsche versus one from Zeekr would deliver almost identical driving experience (silent neck snapping acceleration). If thats the case, why would someone pay 10x the price for the premium one. Bear in mind EVs depreciate like a rock, no, i mean an asteroid. They become worthless in 5 years and no one would buy an older model to reminisce its dated technology and depleted battery.
You should always plug in the charger post first then the car. Presumably you have charge point location guidance on your sat nav or have the use of an app?
Hi Sam… would you have dragged that heavy (probably dirty) charging cable across the back of your own Porsche?! No, I thought not!! I winced - as many others did too!! 😣 Porsche’s magic ability to remove every possible penny from the bank accounts of their customers has come to haunt them… especially when it comes to the Taycan. This Macan is facing a very sceptical audience and, as is standard for Porsche, it's massively overpriced. Your 'away-from-home' charging experience provides yet more evidence that electric cars make the most sense in cities (where reducing air pollution should be of most value). I don't expect to see you owning one of these, any time soon… and nor will I.
TIP:- It's possible to charge any car through the Tesla Supercharger network. I'm moving from a tesla model 3 performance, to a Macan turbo (sometime this week), and will use the tesla chargers if I ever need to charge - never had an issue with them.
9:22 Hate when chargers are installed on grass instead of hard standing. When it's muddy, as it is here, you end up with mud on your shoes which is then transferred to the car.
It’s missing the roof spoiler…and the engine…and the PDK. At least give it the Ioniq5N’s “gear” system as well as the ability to pick which real Porsche exhaust sound to pipe in. And let us slam it at the push of a (physical) button and drive it slammed at full speed.
I test drove the Ioniq5N "gear" system, with the piped in sound... And, yes, it sounds like it'd be sh1t, but it's incredible - every electric car should do this. I almost cancelled my Macan Turbo order, but the quality of the Porsche is night and day between the Hyundai.
I test drove the Ioniq5N and the Macan 4. Yes, the 5N gearbox thing is fun, I loved it, but it has a tiny range and a much less refined chassis and steering compared to the Macan. These cars don't make sense as pure fun machines but rather your daily can do it all. Difficult to imagine why someone would chose the 5N over the Macan, except saving money. If it is about fun for money, a M2 is the same price as the 5N and much more fun.
@@harzan12 Pretty much the same conclusion I came to - my Macan Turbo is due in the next few days, well specced in Paint to Sample Porsche Riviera Blue - should look awesome (will do a video so others can see the spec)... Thing is as, a company owner, a 26% rebate on the cost of the vehicle from the government and low company car tax, means electric cars are the way to go - I just wished it'd have paddles and the noise of the Ioniq 5N for those moments when I fancy a bit of a thrill.
Just checking those dimensions since you implied a significant increase in size. Yes, it’s 58mm longer. But an increase of 16mm in width isn’t really ‘pushin the cushion’. It’s also 1mm taller. So now you can wear your stovepipe
Charging under real life conditions is easy. The charging planner identifies High Performance Chargers anytime you want it. Present your PORSCHE charging card to the charger and you don't need an app for every station. In Germany you get with your PORSCHE charging card a 3 - year IONITY HPC tariff for just 39 €/cent. With this you can avoid high charging prices on highways.
@josefv-y8m nope ive just had the bighest headache with a tesla ever and i am done with this EV garbage, when they work they are but when they go wrong you are stuck with a car that dont start and you cant even move the damn thing because the handbrake will not release, and to make things worse its blocking 4 other cars in a carpark and they cant get out! I will stick with 2005 astra thanks!
LOL was fragile drama queen you are. This is without home or work private chargers. It still worked out he even found a high speed charger. With private charging it would soo easy you can't use it for a clickb8 video.
@@daggidding4478 "You also have to buy your own charging station at home" which is the easy part in a 230v nation. Way easier and cheaper than frequent maintenance required for ICE cars.
@@daggidding4478 FYI When a BEV has to last 210,000 plus miles just to be worth it. While an ICE car just to be responsible should have an oil change ever several thousand miles. That is 30 Oil Changes vs the FEW times required to change the ATF on reduction gear box and lubrication on motors. Setting up a plug in mobile charger in a 230v nation is way less time wasted and way cheaper.
@@rossmatheson4303 Sure, it’s great when you charge at home and use it for a regular commute. But have you ever tried going on a road trip? And not just as a means of transportation, but actually driving it on backroads and discovering places where you have no idea if you’ll get to a charger? My parents “love” their EV… go on and on about it, but every time they go on a road trip they get a rental car because they don’t want to worry about charging… 😂
The EV Macan would be the perfect daily for company owners. But there’s zero chance of spending 100k on it when it will be worth 50k next year. Also there’s much much cheaper EVs that are just as good as Porsche. Porsche used to be about the engines. All EVs drive and sound the same only the power output is different.
"All EVs drive and sound the same" they very much do not. There is massive difference in form factor and drive wheels layouts. The most fun setup currently is probably the Curpra Born VZ which is 322hp just to the Rear Wheels. That obviously behaves nothing like these Dual Motor Macan.
@@NeojhunI mean in motor terms, it’s the equivalent of all cars having the same engine but with a different software setting for output. There’s no difference in character like there is between a 2.0 engine and a 6.0 engine
Same for most of the cars...my Passat GTE was 70k € (bought it after 9 month of usage by VW for 50%)...after 4 years and 50k km...18k dealer price. Spending money for a new car is just silly.
This is just a matter of time...and seems a british issue...you would not find this issue in Germany anymore...HPCs can be found anywhere. Within the next 10 years, this issue is for sure solved...and since EVs are not falling from heaven, it will take decades anyway to replace a major part of ICEs.
@@josefv-y8m Assuming it takes 4 times longer to charge an EV vs the motion lotion equivalent. Where is 4 times the forecourt space going to come from?
all I could picture was the bint at the fuel garage trying to get the hose to reach the other side when there is a free bay on the right side....... JUST REVERSE IN THE NEXT BAY OVER so the cable doesnt rub on the car
Another car youtuber who concludes he really likes the EV and is all positive ("I THINK I WOULD HAVE ONE") while never owning a single EV in his personal car collection, purchased with his own money. Sick of it. Tell the truth. Id rather have my balls waxed, salted and then dipped in acetic acid than own an EV. Funny thing about EVs that further highlights the inadequacy of the UK government and their ridiculous unrealistic mandates... They want more EVs on the roads. EVs weigh more, which means the British roads continue to degrade at a faster rate, but they dont increase funding for fixing the roads. The poor quality of the rough roads in the UK decreases EV effeciency, reducing range, pushing consumers away from owning an EV. Its almost like their actual goal is to stop people driving all together rather than swapping ICE to EV 1:1.
He needs Porsche press cars in the future. He has to conclude the car is “good”. The truth is these EVs are useless to the vast majority of people with the current battery technology and charging infrastructure. A Porsche “premium” EV is a complete money pit. What does this car do that a Tesla at 1/3rd the price does? Nothing.
Stop with the delusional nonsense. Nothing you said is relevant to how driving a BEV in the real world works. FYI A Model 3 and BMW F80 weight difference is NEGLIGIBLE. Model Y is about 100 LBS heavier than BMW X3. NEGLIGIBLE vehicle weight difference results in NEGLIGIBLE road wear difference. All you have done is copy and paste Anti EV scripts while having zero proof. You're just hear to sell fabricated nonsense.
@@Engineer_with_cars "EVs are useless to the vast majority of people with the current battery technology and charging infrastructure." Blanket statement assertion with zero proof and reasoning. Just brainwashed ideology.
@@Engineer_with_cars Tesla owners are the worst of all EV owners and they are the worst EVs. Nikola Tesla is literally turning in his grave seeing his name on those sorry excuses for cars. Its a bad joke at our expense. Had they let Tesla (Nikola) do what he was trying to do, we wouldnt even need batteries in cars.
I currently have an q4 and I wouldn’t get another electric car the amount of issues you have with charging stations in the uk the only way to charge them is at home overnight and the depreciation they have on them
@@Neojhun in order to make the value proposition worth it for an EV, the experience and cost has to be equal to or better than a petrol/diesel car, this video clearly demonstrates that even in 2024 that is still not the case and likely will not be for the foreseeable future. everyone's criticisms in these comments are completely valid, ev's are not selling for a reason.
Am I the only one that is more and more annoyed by petrol head elitists? No matter how great an EV car is (and I think the Macan EV is absolutely amazing) those elitists will always hate on it just for the sake of hating EVs.
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That seemed like a lot of stress for a relaxing day out. Which idiot decided that an app for every charging station was a good idea. 😂
No comma needed in the first sentence. 🤦🏿♂️
@Resist_Oppression fixed it, thanks. The trouble with typing on a phone 👍
its so companies can sell your data. People should flat out refuse to use any charging stations that require an app. If you have to use them, ensure you use a burner email or an email alias incase of a data breach and just to stop data brokers selling you out lol
EV’s are great. But not to own and live with.
Imagine having to drive 15 miles out of your way to find a working charger? Crazy.
I recently got the Macan 4. This car is fantastic inside and out. I love this car over any car (EV or ICE) that I have owned. The ride quality, handling, performance is perfect for me and my family. I do not worry about range as when it is cold if you loose range you can recharge back to approx. 470 KM on 90% in about 20 mins charge. Note that the range you get partially depends on your driving style, tire size (I have the 20 inch rims), etc. and the initial calibration the car goes through, but that is what I get. I do charge at home most of the time but even so the fast charging rate is impressive. I optioned for the rear axle steering (RAS) and view it as a great feature as it makes parking and in town maneuvering fun and super easy. The short turning radius is amazing. I even notice the RAS on the highway during lane changes. This car stays glued to the road in any condition.
I noticed some commenters lamenting about ICE cars. I have to say I disagree. EVs have no smelly gas or gas stations to visit, instant torque and with low noise and super low maintenance costs (no 12 v lead acid battery, exhaust, fuel or oil filters, belts, etc.). Also this car makes the ICE Macan feel old and slow...and the new Macan EV gives a bit more room in the back so now an adult can actually sit in the back unlike with the ICE Macan. .Also, I am not a fan of EV one peddle driving though. I like that Porsche avoided that and I do prefer the physical buttons they have over the "do everything on a screen" Tesla experience as i think its too distracting. Anyway, that is my 2 cents. If you want a great driving car, EV or ICE, this is it. That is my review of "living with the Porsche Macan"
Found the standard suspension on the new Macan quite rough, do you have the air suspension? Standard suspension on Taycan vs Macan the Taycan was much more comfortable
@@CinemaAtv Hi, Yes in North American Air Suspension is standard. Even if it was not i would have still optioned it as I was fed up with the Tesla Model Y rough spring suspension. I did try the refresh Model 3 that had "improved" but still steel spring suspension and it was not really much better. I did not try a Macan with steel suspension (it would have had to be an ICE Macan). In any case, not only is the ride exceptionally smooth you can raise and lower the car which I have done in steep parking lots to avoid scraping the front. I found the off road setting a bit bouncy but still useful for rough terrain. I drive on Normal (mostly) and Sport (sometimes) and you can feel the difference. Highly recommended. I also have the 18 way seats and together there is no better ride than this car.
@@user-gz6tx6yp3v "The U.S. Department of Energy predicts today's EV batteries ought to last a good deal past their warranty period, with these packs' service lives clocking in at between 12 and 15 years if used in moderate climates. Plan on a service life of between eight and 12 years if your EV is regularly used in more extreme conditions"
Since most car s are fully depreciated by then and maybe worth 10-20% of their original cost the concern in moot as you will likely just buy another car at that point.
On a side note replacement cost for a gas engine (with a new engine is over 10K plus labor) and you likely need to replace the exhaust and the transmission (if your putting that much into it) so 14 - 20K all in. The cost of replacing a Tesla battery is ...13 to 20 K. More importantly the battery does not just die but degrades and you only need to replace cells (in the Macan battery if need be) not the entire battery to restore to full range. Even if you do nothing you are still going to get 70% of the original range so you just keep driving it past 15 years or the same length of time you would likely need to replace an ICE engine or spend $$$ on an overhaul. This does not include 12 years of engine maintenance on an ICE engine which you do not have to do with a battery.
Some points to consider anyway.
OPD was just making my kids carsick.
please describe your idea of "cold"
The government is stupid and slow as fuck.
Not making any standard rules for charging stations which has been a big problem a very long time ago.
True ! And that is for all of them.
Yeah, more government 🤡
Shmee made a video awfully similar to this 2-3 years ago with his Taycan. Seems not much has improved.
Exactly, Tesla…
@@capcohan931This is not a Taycan, it's a Macan.
The new 2025 Taycan charges at over 300kW to around 65% SoC and then around 220kW to 75% SoC. Most charging stops are only 10 to 12 minutes long. That's not much longer than filling up with gas. So yes, the Taycan has more than improved since then.
55 quid for ~200 miles?? I understand you’re paying for the convenience of fast charging, but yikes.
My Macan S would cost me at least £52 in super unleaded for the same distance. It’s just a thirsty vehicle regardless of how you drive.
That would be what you would have to pay on a road trip but you could charge it at home for almost £7 worst case 0-100% no brainer for 240miles in the winter 260 maybe more in the summer
Do you fuel your daily driver with VP Racing Fuel? It's about using the right tool for the job. Obviously the 300kW charger is extreme fast charging when you need to do 250 miles in a moments notice. Vast majority of the time people will use slower cheap chargers when you don't have to drive 300 miles in one day.
EVs don't work if you're reliant on rapid chargers. That's not breaking news.
For the most part, they only work for people who can charge at home. But for those people, EV tariffs can translate into £4 for those 200 miles. No, that's not an exaggeration - 8p/kWh in a car that does 4mi/kWh, you do the maths. Even if you double that for a thirsty Macan with a lead-footed driver, £8 is still peanuts for 200 miles.
Insurance and tyres cost me more than electricity for my EV. That's in spite of a decent number of road trips, with ~20% of my charging being rapid - that still makes for an average cost of under 15p/kWh, or 4p/mile.
Pointing out the high cost of rapid charging is entirely fair, but plenty of petrolheads will do that and ignore or omit the flipside of that coin, which is either ignorant or intentionally dishonest.
@@stuartbrowning3074 £52 with a Macan S, super unleaded prices over the past year we can average at £1.60. £52 would get half a tank. You'd be averaging 28.41mpg. Really not so bad considering it's got a nice amount of grunt and nears 2T with a driver 😁
Sam, you have become a part of my Sunday morning ritual, over coffee. These have recently launched in the US and are not flying out of the show rooms, (yet). I am a current Macan GTS owner and the EV just simply does not fit my use case but I am sure that they drive and perform well. It is a Porsche after all.
Driving around just to fill up is an afternoon outing in itself!
You can admit that you got boo’d out of cars and coffee….they must have assumed you were looking for the mall.
I am a fan of the POV style shots. makes it more of an authentic user review.
Live in Rancho Mirage Southern California, run house on solar panels. We have a EV mustang crossover. Works great! Just charge it at home station. Fast quiet nice space inside.
…..I’m in Calabasas with a similar situation. But, I DO have sympathy for people I know who live in Butte, Montana (22 degrees there yesterday), and they say they could NEVER have an EV in their COLD conditions, and the fact Montana I’d HUGE, and they’re driving over 3-400 miles a day to visit friends and family in other Montana towns. To sum up…..it’s VERY GOOD to be able to afford to live in WARM, SUNNY Southern California!!! 😎🥂😀
You don’t have a Mustang, lol. That’s a plastic refrigerator
@@grigorioschristodoulou5229You sounds slow. I guess your petrol car is a lawnmower then?
These are the videos I love, just vlogs about what owning a car is like
@@exploremore2871 Me too, except when that car is an EV and owning all EVs is a terrible experience unless you charge it at home, never go more than 30 min from your house, and are comfortable with everyone assuming you have two vaginas for some reason.
A great advert for ICE cars.
Pretty successful at depreciating too.
Who ever buys a car new and doesn’t know that cars aren’t an investment is maybe a bit slow in the first place .
I really don't know why people obsess over depreciation. Cars depreciate. It's pretty common knowledge. That's why I really don't understand why people cash buy a car. Would you buy a house if it depreciated? PCP a car otherwise you're a fool.
That's the main issue.
@@1510km Depends on the depreciation ratio, EVs have a much higher depreciation ratio which can be very important for those leasing or especially buying every 5 or so years. If you plan on keeping the car forever, then nevermind.
@@1510km Buying a car that will unnecessarily depreciate but on a PCP is no better
Ive been subscribed to your channel for absolutely ages, and have to say you are one of the only TH-cam car reviewers who has the balls to be honest about the improvement in electric cars... sure I love a v 8 but e-vs are good too.
Good, but...
Too many buts still.
They are fast but heavy, and I don't think I have to tell anyone what that means in terms of driving dynamics, braking, tyre wear, etc.
The batteries are getting better, but they still degrade over time.
There are good cheaper EVs now but they still cost too much and lose a ton in depreciation.
The charging network's getting better, but it's still a pain in the butt.
The charging network's getting better, but EVs still aren't a viable option for someone without their own parking space and charger.
And some EVs look great, but most are ugly af because of the drag coefficient and the large space the battery occupies.
Other negatives would be the dependence on all the tech in the car and the fact that the battery is by far the most expensive part and if anything's goes wrong with the battery your car is practically totalled.
He doesnt own a single EV that he bought with his own money. Why is that? Most likely because if he were being honest he would say they are not good products and therefore when he says "I would buy one of these myself" he is in fact talking absolute shite.
We live in a bipolar world. Everything is like marmite. But electric is an option as is an ICE, hybrid is a good compromise, with hydrogen on its way. TH-camrs are entertaining some are even considered influencers .. so trolling them probably won’t help anyone, so perhaps let them do their thing. We can’t all agree on everything. 😂
@@barbarusbloodshed6347 I can see you have done your research.
@@barbarusbloodshed6347 Sounds similar to points made a century ago.
"There are no proper roads for those horseless contraptions, and all they do is leave a cloud of dust when they pass by, or spray mud all over pedestrians after a rain."
"There's no place to get that dangerous, exploding stuff they need other than pharmacies."
"And that stuff catches fire so easily, congress is looking to ban it."
"They can only go 10 or 15 miles and run out of it, and need some more."
"They make all those explosion noises spooking horses and pedestrians alike."
"Everybody is left choking from all those foul fumes they constantly emit."
"They're much too fast and unsafe. So many people are going to be hurt or killed by them."
"People are being maimed just trying to start them."
"No one knows how to use them. You might as well need a degree just to learn."
"They constantly break down, and you need to be a brain surgeon to know how to fix them."
"Those new air wheel tire things they use are always getting punctured from horseshoe nails, leaving you stranded."
"And worse of all, no one can afford them. They cost more than 3 or 4 full years worth of wages for the average working man."
I love videos like this, they make me even more positive i don't want an EV
Preach 🤣
Got told for the New Zealand market that the “old” one will be available to buy for another year or two along side the new one. In some places the old one can’t be sold anymore due to regulations. The new platform was developed as the old platform couldn’t support any further power upgrades.
So, plan your lunch venue around a charging facility. Find none of the chargers are in service or the app doesn’t work. Then have to go out of your way to find another charging centre. Sit around for 40 minutes while charging. Pay a premium price for fast charging, which is probably no cheaper than diesel of petrol. Then after wasting about an hour dicking about trying to find and use electricity you can finally relax snd head home later than you had planned.
230 mile range! What a joke.
Huge depreciation. No second hand market. Porsche won’t want it back in part exchange!
The joys of electrification!
Not for me. Never will be. And I’ll be dead before they sort it all out.
Thankfully I can leave the planet still driving fire breathing monsters that fit in with my life rather than altering my days and travel around finding the lesser spotted almost extinct functioning charging point!
Loved the video though👍👍👍
Perfect summation
It’s a damn shame this inept government can’t see this and instead is trying to force this down us and manufacturers throats. It’s so stupid when we let people who have drivers and don’t actually drive themselves in charge of driving related stuff
You missed the part where he could have charged at home!
@ oh, ok. So I'll never travel too far from home for my driving holidays just in case I need to charge my car.
@@Aggie4life77 you missed the part where he’s also privileged enough to do so and not everyone can regardless
10 grand down and 1k a month over 3 years😂😂😂 so 46k to have the car for 3 years and 24k miles🤣🤣 madness
Exactly. A very expensive rental with nothing to show for it at the end.
I've driven my old ev over to Switzerland now issues charging over 1k miles as I have had a previous ev so I fully know how to operate and find chargers. Now there is no real need to download an app using upto date chargers. All I use is rapid while on a road trip and convenient when using the toilets or stopping for food.. Once practiced it is easy.
Coming from a die hard ICE & air cooled life. I have a GT3 & 71 911T. My wife has an inbound Macan EV. It’s the perfect platform for electric. Keep the sports cars ICE.
I think fundamentally you do need to have a home charger for any EV and the superchargers for trips and longer travel as the per mileage charge at a charging station is either the same or more per mile compared to gas. With that, it’s so nice to never have to worry about filling up in the morning or stopping in the middle of the day. For home charging in the US, I avg about $50-70 for over 1000 miles driven per month.
Interesting, that seems very expensive to be honest. My VW Golf station wagon on natural gas (i bought it new like that, no conversion) only cost about 35eur for 1000km, which is less than 40$… that was before Ukraine war, idk how much exactly it is now but it is more. I though EVs are basically free if you charge at home… and i though you have cheaper energy in USA.. how much are you paying for kwh?
I'm impressed how the odometer went backwards as the video progressed.
That's a very nice feature that he left out 🤣
For me first gen Macan is the best looking one
All you need to do is use the Tesla Superchargers that are open to 3rd parties. Fast, cheaper, reliable and plenty of them.
Thanks, reaffirmed my recent decision to buy a hybrid over an EV. When I come to look again in 4/5 years I'm hopeful(!) the charging situation will have been sorted. Famous last words?
Why not just petrol ?
Why are you hopeful for an EV? What possible reason is there to want an EV?
ZERO chance I ever going to change my V6 macan to an EV macan. Not going to happen. Numbers don't give you emotions, smile / mile. Also the ICE looks much better.
Not to mention range anxiety, re-sell value, expensive, heavy, charging problems and super expensive quick charging...
We test drive the EV Macan almost 2 months ago. Besides you can instantly feel the extra weight at just under 2500kg it drives really well. The electronics mask the extra weight very well. Your right it’s styling is a step up on the old model and the interior is also a step up. What isn’t welcome is the large step up in price and the projected monthlies which will keep folks from buying them. The dual motor performance models genuinely have a good range at last.
@@peterbest5938 2,5T way too much, electronics can mask it up to a degree, for average driving. But I like spirited driving. This days... 2,5T M5, 2,3T C63, bad joke. ICE Macan with 1,9T is already heavy enough, and also masking it pretty well. Macan S was £65k base price, comfortable, reasonably fast, fun, connected, can fit the family, sounds good with factory sport exhaust, ticks soooo many boxes for that price. You can drive to Scotland, Nurburgring, no range anxiety, charger busy, next one not working, 3rd one wont start charging, 4th one is slow and you waiting 1,5 hours... If somebody can fit it in their life, and willing to pay the premium, go ahead. Not for me.
You drive a v6 family mobile 😂 stop acting like you own a v12 Lamborghini, most dramatic mf’ers crying for attention.
Porsche are rumored to be coming out with Petrol variants of their EV Macan & Taycan so you might wanna start saving
Thanks for sharing your experience. I will put a Macan 4 or 4S on top of my list of contenders to replace my Audi e-tron. 👍🍻
“Why not?” !!! I think you answered your own question. Serious range stress every 230 miles. Driving 15 miles out of your way to find a charging station that worked. Waiting 30+ minutes to fill on the fastest possible charger. Residual values through the floor. 10 grand more expensive than the combustion equivalent. How you can be “positive” about it after your little test, baffles me…..!
Um...maybe because you are focusing on all its potential negative aspects. Have you driven the car? I get it if you cannot charge it at home and the infrastructure in your area is poor but that is an issue for all EVs not just this one. The range he is reporting is anecdotal as I get over 460 - 470 km on 90% charge after an initial setting in time. This video (and others) give a different story. th-cam.com/video/dkRbPIV5kAo/w-d-xo.html. Cheers.
You’re not gonna be in that situation everyday.
@@shawnmaynard3677 so with 90% you get more range than Porsche claims for 100%? Or are you owning a different car? Not sure i understand
I’ve driven an EV for the past three years, and have only ever had a problem finding charging on one occasion - on Christmas Eve at a motorway service station. The key to any journey is to do a bit of planning beforehand if you’re going to be using public charging - I drive a Volvo, and their app is really good in terms of real-time identification of available charging sites. There’s also a decent discount at a lot of charging sites - all of the charging infrastructure on the motorway network is now discounted.
Honestly, it’s not as challenging as is often made out!
How often you drive 200 miles+
A lot of people have other car for that too… (I have California)
Charging at home gives you amazing aspect of having full tank daily. no need to waste time going to petrol station.
Looks good, not Macan specific but less range if too hot, less range if too cold. Afraid to use AC or heated seats as saps power. Journey potentially takes longer as need to find a charger and then sit twiddling thumbs. Would be way to stressful as well.
At least you didn’t have the hassle that Harry had when he towed that massive trailer and found it impossible to charge when attached to a trailer
You can definitely charge while towing an ev ...problem is you need a massive diesel truck and 2 h/d alternators and then an extremely expensive inverter.....not worth it ...but possible
Harry knew that before he attached a trailer. Just creating drama for a TH-cam film.
@@andrewhurstcars how does that invalidate or diminish the point Harry was trying to make? You seem to want to shoot the messenger that there are specific and pertinent issues if you are thinking of buying an EV if you tow a trailer.
FYI Pull through charging stalls are a thing. Charging should be very easy with a trailer.
@@jahyoda What kind of insane delusions are you talking about. Just use a Pull through charger stall. Cost the same expensive typical DC Fast Charging soo same cost as Petrol.
1:37 to me, range isn’t the biggest issue with EV usability. Long charge time is the issue. Until they can fill up in a few minutes like gas cars, they are a compromise to use daily. (assuming you don’t have a garage with special plug to charge overnight and potentially drive more than around town)
Right next to a petrol station (where normally it takes around 5 mins to fill up) yet has to drive 15 miles (YES 15 miles!!!) to find a sufficient charger. And you’re telling me this is the future 😅😅😅
And still cost £50+, this video has certainly confined electric isn’t for me!!!
Exactly this 😂😂😂😂
Yes, Infrastructure has to grow...like for petrol over the years, decades...but this is a typical british issue...you would not see the same in Germany, since you can find HPCs everywhere.
But if u can charge at home u don’t have to visit a gas station at all.
@@maxh3539 big if. A lot of people who live in terrace houses with no off road ability are going to struggle a lot
@@maxh3539And go 50 miles max. Utterly useless.
Do I sense a first crack in the nEVer stance?? Small openings but significant none the less. Good to see it.
Too bad the infrastructure isn’t up to the level of the cars. It’s improving but not where it’s needed to be yet.
Home charging and local use work very well.
Trips requiring charging cause agita. CCS.
We’re closer but not there yet.
2 years e ownership here.
No matter what the range states you’ve got to subtract another 30 odd miles for range anxiety
Rubbish
When I in a long trip plan to get home with 10 miles left then recharge at home.
@@BAC_Mono And how does it feel to have 10 miles left? Hopefully no urgent trip in the same day....
@ feels fine. I just plug it in at home at it charges
If I have an urgent meeting (has never happened) I just stop at the BP station near my home and the 350 kW chargers there will charge it in 20 minutes.
I did that once when my daughter had a plumbing emergency 200 miles away.
In my experience (which is limited I accept ie only had it 2 years), the number of times I’ve been inconvenienced by having to charge is pretty much zero in that time.
It's always entertaining when people who have never driven an EV comment on what range anxiety must be like.
@@Mark__AJesus you people are ignorant. If he were to have another urgent trip, he could charge back up to 80% (or around 240 miles of range) in 20 mins at a fast charger.
Great video Sam!! Massive 911-fan and a GT3-owner I wanted a Porsche family car! Tried the Macan but I ordered a Cayenne Coupe Hybrid instead!!
…and me!
After my endeavors as a beta tester for Porsche Taycan (2019 production), I’m convinced not to ever again fork out the money for a premium EV.
Simply there’s no value in «premium» EVs like there were in premium gas powered cars. Now it’s all just electrons moving about and the same motors and batteries from the same manufacturers.
And yes, I drive a Kia EV6 GT as a daily beater now. And yes, I still have a petrol Porsche in the garage.
Well said and same here. EV6 GT as the family car and 718 GTS 4.0 for the rare weekends I find the time to go on a drive. Never would I buy a Taycan or Macan that‘s losing the value of a whole EV6 GT in the first year.
That sounds like a pretty good summary of the situation 👍
It's like buying a premium quartz watch, you're basically paying for the bracelet and the brand name. In this case you're paying only for the chassis and brand name. These cars are all disposable trash and they aren't even premium. What is so premium about having such pitiful range? Even supercars will easily out-mile these days.
Honestly, I would never get a "turbo" model from any EV Porsche. It's just wasting money for a pointless and poorly named model.
But if you have driven the Macan or Q6 in comparison, you might have realised that they still give you a premium feel compared to others... premium in the EV market still defines the same aspects as during the ICE era
I don't think that was 14 minutes, but rather the time by which the car would be charged 14:49 (2.49pm), which makes more sense as the time displayed on the clock is 14:15, making that a charge time of 35 minutes.
Why can Porsche only get 2-3miles per kwh when Tesla can get 4-5? It's a big difference!
I thought the same!
I have not checked the kerb weight as a macan owner they appear to be build very well compared to our Tesla its on another level really. But I will agree the Porsche should really do better infact should be class leading.
Tesla have been doing EVs for a long time, other mainstream brands haven’t. My 2 Taycans (Gen.1), gave me an average of 2.7 miles/kWh. The Gen. 2 version is improved and people are quoting 3.5 miles/kWh. So better, but not up to Tesla levels of efficiency.
On my word, same issue I had with charging infrastructure. Went back to petrol. Hopefully it will be better when I try again.
If the car isn't at 100% battery when you wake up in the morning having charged up overnight while you slept then your review is not in any way representative of the reality of living with it for people who actually own one.
In the real world you wouldn't have had to stop to charge at all for this journey, and you'd have saved 90%+ of that charging cost too.
Agree, apart from charging to 100% on a daily basis. That hurts battery.
That first issue with the points being out of service with no notification is exactly why EVs are not practical yet unless you can guarantee being able to charge at home.
Imagine doing this every day 😂😂😂
WTF that's NOT POSSIBLE! The non turbo has 300 miles real world range. If you drive 150 mile every single day don't bother with a BEV. But that 150 miles of daily commute range accounts for vast majority of people.
I think people were looking at the Macans colour .
Not a bad looking car , EVs are not for me , but that being said , my next Cayenne will be a Hybrid.
Like most people 90% of my car usage is local and a tank of fuel would probably last me months .
Hybrids are the future , most people’s trips each day can be done on 30 or 40 mile range , and if you want to stretch your legs on a road trip your not at a disadvantage with a Ev.
Oh and thanks for showing me the U.K. I don’t miss it at all lol .
Yay!! Twiggy STG vid cameo. Love it.
Hi from Antigua 🇦🇬. Let's hear what Tony has to say about this 😂
This is probably more fun to drive than the regular Macan. I remember I had the ICE one as a loaner and boy was it boring as hell.
Twiggy is so cute. What breed of dog is s/he Sam?
You remained so calm during the whole charging section. I've no doubt there was more 'choice' language used off camera 😂.
I like the new design, just wished it wasn't electric
Another informative and interesting video. It confirms all the fears about the lamentable charging situation in our country at the moment. Imagine your first charging experiencing happening in the North, where I live, with far fewer charging stations or in the highlands, or even worse, Northern Ireland! The infrastructure has far, far to go before EVs can really be considered viable for all. In the interim the upscaling of sustainable fuels should be supported by government. This could make a much more rapid impact on vehicle emissions, without the issues of damaging the planet further with production of excess new vehicles too.
EVs always go down a storm on this channel 😂
Because this audience is brainwashed with absurd nonsense. My favorite script soo far is "EVs are much heavier thus road wear is worse". When a BMW 3 Series and Model 3 have negligible weight difference, while a Model Y is 100 LBs heavier than a BMW X3. Even Sam can see this is very unhealthy behaviour with the audience.
Love the review! Californian here (waiting for delivery of a Macan electric in January) - we have decent infrastructure for public charging here, but even so, I don’t think I’m ready to be a 100% committed to an EV. Keep ICE cars when range is a concern. Charging will be handled from home (we also have solar installed). But I’m picking the car up near Los Angeles (my preferred dealer) and immediately have a 300+ miles to get home, so will have the charging anxiety out of the gate!
Imagine spending all that money on an EV and it's a lie. The range is always a lie. It would be like buying a 911 with 390hp but it actually has 290hp. You're rich and you're just throwing money away on a lie
It's always been a lie. Everything the government says to do just do the opposite
Is it? I think that is a bad compare… Look instead at tha 911 that will do 0-60 in 4 sec… Try that on snow and claim you have been foolwd. It is a lie! It cannot do it in 4 sec!!! It will do it in 10 sec!A scandal!
The range is also a lie on any ICE too.
Cars, for me, start with an eye-catching shape. That's SUV's gone. Any badge could be on that Macan. Dull.
I only clicked on this video to support the channel but it ended up being surprisingly informative, in the sense that it confirms none of us wanting or needing an electric Macan. Appreciate the consumer advice and your filming as always!
Had you planned your trip, you would have known the rapid chargers were out of order.
I have my charging apps set-up and stored in a folder on my home screen. This way, everything runs smoothly.
Thank goodness they made space for the frunk - they’ll be able to drop a petrol engine I: the front with minimal engineering. I bet Porsche have already done the engineering.
NO, this is the PPE (Premium Platform Electric), a pure EV Platfrom and no ICE would fit in...the Audi Q6 is the same platform shared with Porsche.
The ICE is only still sold in UK and US, since this antique Electronic Architecture does not fullfill the Cybersecurity Rules of EU anymore...production was stopped on 1.7.
@ isn’t the taycan an all electric platform? Interesting that there’s rumours circulating that that is going ICE in the not too distant future.
I’ll keep my Macan GTS, and hoping for the Taycan to keep tanking so I can get one as my third car.
I bought a Taycan 2 months ago. It’s a great handling, riding and looking car. It’s missing any form of soul though. The fact that it doesn’t have an engine, just takes so much away from it😢
Will be getting a v8 amg next time!
For our 2nd car we bought a ex display Jaguar I Pace with 11000 miles on a 23 plate, it cost £38k from £72k 14 months previously. It’s real world Range is 250-60, we have a home wall box, and overnight charging is incredibly cheap. However I very rarely venture on journeys more than 100 miles, I just take my F Type, we took both our cars to our holiday home in a Cornwall, the F Type took 3 hours, as the I Pace had to change, due to availability issues it took 5 hours...😢
Sam, you seemed to appreciate the EV Macan, yet nor desire one? Were you not excited by the experience of the new style of drive train? I was, even as a confirmed petrol head, I was genuinely thrilled by the way the EV I bought drove and still find it very rewarding to drive.
As a petrol head it makes no sense but as a company car driver it’s very attractive. I sense Sam had made his mind up before driving it, that certainly came across to me. As with a lot of Sam’s content he would benefit with being challenged more, plenty of people would offer a different opinion if he asked.
Who's going to challenge him when the majority of his audience are rabidly anti-EV? As the comments demonstrate.
EVs are like smartphones..despite each brand having different design, the underlying technology is identical just like how phones from different brands run on the same Android OS.
A 500hp EV from a premium brand like Porsche versus one from Zeekr would deliver almost identical driving experience (silent neck snapping acceleration). If thats the case, why would someone pay 10x the price for the premium one. Bear in mind EVs depreciate like a rock, no, i mean an asteroid. They become worthless in 5 years and no one would buy an older model to reminisce its dated technology and depleted battery.
You should always plug in the charger post first then the car. Presumably you have charge point location guidance on your sat nav or have the use of an app?
Hi Sam… would you have dragged that heavy (probably dirty) charging cable across the back of your own Porsche?! No, I thought not!!
I winced - as many others did too!! 😣
Porsche’s magic ability to remove every possible penny from the bank accounts of their customers has come to haunt them… especially when it comes to the Taycan.
This Macan is facing a very sceptical audience and, as is standard for Porsche, it's massively overpriced.
Your 'away-from-home' charging experience provides yet more evidence that electric cars make the most sense in cities (where reducing air pollution should be of most value).
I don't expect to see you owning one of these, any time soon… and nor will I.
Hi just watched your video on the Porsche macan very nice have a good day. Can’t wait to next video you put out.
Disappointed with the actual range, very similar to my Jag iPace and its significantly older technology.
The Porsche will go further than your Jag in identical conditions and driven in a similar manner.
@@almac9203I’d expect it to for 108k…
TIP:- It's possible to charge any car through the Tesla Supercharger network. I'm moving from a tesla model 3 performance, to a Macan turbo (sometime this week), and will use the tesla chargers if I ever need to charge - never had an issue with them.
Great video, very interesting and fair review
I bet Twiggy tells all his doggy friends that his Dad loves showing him, and telling him in detail about the cars he has 😂
Take it straight to the trash 🚮
The ugliest Porsche I’ve ever seen
Awesome car - I love it 😍
Ah yes, the Macan’t - the unsellable Macan
Can not 😅
9:22 Hate when chargers are installed on grass instead of hard standing.
When it's muddy, as it is here, you end up with mud on your shoes which is then transferred to the car.
It’s missing the roof spoiler…and the engine…and the PDK. At least give it the Ioniq5N’s “gear” system as well as the ability to pick which real Porsche exhaust sound to pipe in. And let us slam it at the push of a (physical) button and drive it slammed at full speed.
I test drove the Ioniq5N "gear" system, with the piped in sound... And, yes, it sounds like it'd be sh1t, but it's incredible - every electric car should do this. I almost cancelled my Macan Turbo order, but the quality of the Porsche is night and day between the Hyundai.
I test drove the Ioniq5N and the Macan 4. Yes, the 5N gearbox thing is fun, I loved it, but it has a tiny range and a much less refined chassis and steering compared to the Macan. These cars don't make sense as pure fun machines but rather your daily can do it all. Difficult to imagine why someone would chose the 5N over the Macan, except saving money. If it is about fun for money, a M2 is the same price as the 5N and much more fun.
@@harzan12 Pretty much the same conclusion I came to - my Macan Turbo is due in the next few days, well specced in Paint to Sample Porsche Riviera Blue - should look awesome (will do a video so others can see the spec)...
Thing is as, a company owner, a 26% rebate on the cost of the vehicle from the government and low company car tax, means electric cars are the way to go - I just wished it'd have paddles and the noise of the Ioniq 5N for those moments when I fancy a bit of a thrill.
How bout you grow up and move passed your emotional attachment to a metal object and do what is pragmatic.
Save money and buy a real Macan then😂
This car is trash for real
Just checking those dimensions since you implied a significant increase in size. Yes, it’s 58mm longer. But an increase of 16mm in width isn’t really ‘pushin the cushion’. It’s also 1mm taller. So now you can wear your stovepipe
Putting 'turbo' on the seats has thrown me off, maybe it would be better with an LED rainbow emblem 😆
Charging under real life conditions is easy. The charging planner identifies High Performance Chargers anytime you want it. Present your PORSCHE charging card to the charger and you don't need an app for every station. In Germany you get with your PORSCHE charging card a 3 - year IONITY HPC tariff for just 39 €/cent. With this you can avoid high charging prices on highways.
No Ev for me ever!
Drive it and you will change your opinion...still driving a Plugin (Passat GTE) myself...but next one will be most likely an ID7.
@josefv-y8m nope ive just had the bighest headache with a tesla ever and i am done with this EV garbage, when they work they are but when they go wrong you are stuck with a car that dont start and you cant even move the damn thing because the handbrake will not release, and to make things worse its blocking 4 other cars in a carpark and they cant get out! I will stick with 2005 astra thanks!
Hi Sam , I wish you would get your hands on The SP3 Daytona.Now that video is gonna be sensational.I can’t wait to hear your thoughts on it 🔥
Once again you have proven that EV’s are a hassle
No hassle if you charge them at home, full 'tank' every morning.
@@Hali88 thank you for also proving my point. You can’t just buy only the car. You also have to buy your own charging station at home.
LOL was fragile drama queen you are. This is without home or work private chargers. It still worked out he even found a high speed charger. With private charging it would soo easy you can't use it for a clickb8 video.
@@daggidding4478 "You also have to buy your own charging station at home" which is the easy part in a 230v nation. Way easier and cheaper than frequent maintenance required for ICE cars.
@@daggidding4478 FYI When a BEV has to last 210,000 plus miles just to be worth it. While an ICE car just to be responsible should have an oil change ever several thousand miles. That is 30 Oil Changes vs the FEW times required to change the ATF on reduction gear box and lubrication on motors. Setting up a plug in mobile charger in a 230v nation is way less time wasted and way cheaper.
Looks great from the front and is a nice alternative to a petrol Macan. However, probably only worth owning one if you can charge at home.
£55 for 210 miles of range seems crap value my mini gets over 500 miles to a tank which is also £55
A mini? Hardly comparable?
This is the main issue
@@simonhughes7382At least you can go somewhere in the Mini. These Porsche trucks are useless.
This video is just further confirmation that the days of enjoying cars are numbered. Enjoy yours while you can.
It doesn't matter how relaxing the drive is if you're stressing about charging and range.
Lived with an EV for two years now and not had to stress once.
@@rossmatheson4303 Sure, it’s great when you charge at home and use it for a regular commute. But have you ever tried going on a road trip? And not just as a means of transportation, but actually driving it on backroads and discovering places where you have no idea if you’ll get to a charger? My parents “love” their EV… go on and on about it, but every time they go on a road trip they get a rental car because they don’t want to worry about charging… 😂
Great video Sam, my first electric car arrives next Saturday so nice to see your day in the life with one!
"we're doomed" Jeremy Clarkson
The EV Macan would be the perfect daily for company owners. But there’s zero chance of spending 100k on it when it will be worth 50k next year. Also there’s much much cheaper EVs that are just as good as Porsche. Porsche used to be about the engines. All EVs drive and sound the same only the power output is different.
"All EVs drive and sound the same" they very much do not. There is massive difference in form factor and drive wheels layouts. The most fun setup currently is probably the Curpra Born VZ which is 322hp just to the Rear Wheels. That obviously behaves nothing like these Dual Motor Macan.
@@NeojhunI mean in motor terms, it’s the equivalent of all cars having the same engine but with a different software setting for output. There’s no difference in character like there is between a 2.0 engine and a 6.0 engine
Same for most of the cars...my Passat GTE was 70k € (bought it after 9 month of usage by VW for 50%)...after 4 years and 50k km...18k dealer price.
Spending money for a new car is just silly.
I'll never purchase an EV. Infrastructure simply does not support it.
This is just a matter of time...and seems a british issue...you would not find this issue in Germany anymore...HPCs can be found anywhere.
Within the next 10 years, this issue is for sure solved...and since EVs are not falling from heaven, it will take decades anyway to replace a major part of ICEs.
@@josefv-y8m Assuming it takes 4 times longer to charge an EV vs the motion lotion equivalent. Where is 4 times the forecourt space going to come from?
In the netherlands is the petrol version way more expensive because c02 emissions tax. Like 10's of thousands more
@@user40121 If you have/work for a german company yes. Everybody else have to pay the tax or you are fined big time.
@@user40121 its risky because you have to prove you drive to germany reguarly and mostly drive in germany
Probably the most boring / video of a car I've ever seen.
Recently have swapped a 2024 M2 for a BMW i5 40. Totally different cars, both excellent. Enjoying the i5 more as a daily….
I tried to watch it because I love your channel, but I'm sorry, I could only last 50%., bit like the car.
all I could picture was the bint at the fuel garage trying to get the hose to reach the other side when there is a free bay on the right side.......
JUST REVERSE IN THE NEXT BAY OVER so the cable doesnt rub on the car
Another car youtuber who concludes he really likes the EV and is all positive ("I THINK I WOULD HAVE ONE") while never owning a single EV in his personal car collection, purchased with his own money. Sick of it. Tell the truth.
Id rather have my balls waxed, salted and then dipped in acetic acid than own an EV.
Funny thing about EVs that further highlights the inadequacy of the UK government and their ridiculous unrealistic mandates... They want more EVs on the roads. EVs weigh more, which means the British roads continue to degrade at a faster rate, but they dont increase funding for fixing the roads. The poor quality of the rough roads in the UK decreases EV effeciency, reducing range, pushing consumers away from owning an EV.
Its almost like their actual goal is to stop people driving all together rather than swapping ICE to EV 1:1.
He did is best to try and justify this car and failed miserably.
He needs Porsche press cars in the future. He has to conclude the car is “good”.
The truth is these EVs are useless to the vast majority of people with the current battery technology and charging infrastructure.
A Porsche “premium” EV is a complete money pit. What does this car do that a Tesla at 1/3rd the price does? Nothing.
Stop with the delusional nonsense. Nothing you said is relevant to how driving a BEV in the real world works. FYI A Model 3 and BMW F80 weight difference is NEGLIGIBLE. Model Y is about 100 LBS heavier than BMW X3. NEGLIGIBLE vehicle weight difference results in NEGLIGIBLE road wear difference. All you have done is copy and paste Anti EV scripts while having zero proof. You're just hear to sell fabricated nonsense.
@@Engineer_with_cars "EVs are useless to the vast majority of people with the current battery technology and charging infrastructure." Blanket statement assertion with zero proof and reasoning. Just brainwashed ideology.
@@Engineer_with_cars Tesla owners are the worst of all EV owners and they are the worst EVs. Nikola Tesla is literally turning in his grave seeing his name on those sorry excuses for cars. Its a bad joke at our expense. Had they let Tesla (Nikola) do what he was trying to do, we wouldnt even need batteries in cars.
When was the last time I needed an app to fill up my car with hydrocarbons???? Er, never!!!!!!!!!!
Sorry, saw the title and I’m
Skipping this vid
I currently have an q4 and I wouldn’t get another electric car the amount of issues you have with charging stations in the uk
the only way to charge them is at home overnight and the depreciation they have on them
imagine watching this entire experience back while you're editing this video and then still giving an endorsement to the car at the end...wild
WTF it didn't pretty well Without home charger. With home charger it would be even easier. Does the job just fine. You bunch are just drama queens.
@@Neojhun in order to make the value proposition worth it for an EV, the experience and cost has to be equal to or better than a petrol/diesel car, this video clearly demonstrates that even in 2024 that is still not the case and likely will not be for the foreseeable future. everyone's criticisms in these comments are completely valid, ev's are not selling for a reason.
I'm so close to buying this, and agree the front looks great, but it's like they forgot to finish the rear properly.
Am I the only one that is more and more annoyed by petrol head elitists? No matter how great an EV car is (and I think the Macan EV is absolutely amazing) those elitists will always hate on it just for the sake of hating EVs.
EVs have about as much soul and spirit as that of a dead hedgehog
I HATE EVs!
Finally, a balanced ev vid. Loved it.