This film has so many of the things that I love in a George Miller post-apocalyptic film... except a character arc. Was it epic? Or dyspeptic? Let me know in the comments.
I love Mad Max, I watched Mad Max 1979 when I was 10 and I loved it, but I think Furiosa is ok, she doesn't need to be scared all the time, I like how the film makes her tougher over time, this reminds me of 1979 mad max, when max gets his vehicle and revenges.
Nah, honestly , IMO . what this movie is missing is Byron Kennedy , who died scouting scenes(pre-production) for MM3 Miller lost his right hand, and Kennedy lost his life. They might have well have been the Coen Brothers. This movie shares something on George Miller still picking up the pieces, after his friend is long gone. -------------------------------- But the best character in all the Mad Max is still "Toe-cutter/Immortan Joe" . Hugh Keays-Byrne Mel Gibson, Tom Hardy, Charlize Thezon, or that new purty chick Anna Joy, or that purty dude Thor/Chris Hemsley, all great actors, stand aside.🙂 -------------------------------------------- I miss Bryon Kennedy working with his friend George Miller as to Mad Max movies. We knew/felt his loss back in 1983.
Thank you for the comment! I agree. Love the first two films where Kennedy's edge is felt. And I love Toecutter! One of the best screen heavies of all time.
the whole last message that dementus was trying to say doesn't work in the mad max setting, there is always going to be revenge and war the whole "you are just like me" doesn't make sense either because its so over used in other media that it's just stale, i also don't see how they are similar in any way because she wants revenge, almost anyone would have done the same thing, although the way she did it was not best i agree with that
Thank you for the comment! I agree. That's what didn't make sense to me. She's hiding amongst them, living as one of them... but not expected to train as one of them? Their whole thing is "war" and dying in battle for Immortal Joe and going to Valhalla to ride eternal. I'd imagine then, that the Citadel has a type of Agoge, a training ritual for the War Pups. In such case, Furiosa would have had to go through it. Or at least part of it, before showing driving skills and getting put on an Imperator track.
I clicked off the second I heard you tying yourself into a logical pretzel to figure out how to work the phrase "Mary Sue" in. Another video of a movie viewed through the "stupid" lens.
Thank you for the comment. Not really a pretzel, though. Pretty straightforward. By turning off you did not watch the list of reasons why that term applies. She magically has the skills to build a working prosthetic arm -- with no help from anyone, and with no previous experience building such a device. And, magically, not having to recuperate from the trauma of losing her arm and no doubt a ton of blood. In Road Warrior, Max's car flips over, and he can barely walk. Those are real stakes to a character suffering damage. She displays zero setback from the damage she suffers. She's magically a crack shot with no training. She magically empties Dementus' canteen, empties his weapon, and removes the wheel from his motorcycle -- all while he's sleeping. I mean, how much disbelief can one person be expected to suspend?
@@apocalypsetedium Yeah, these reasons you state are DUMB. They tell me you have zero understanding of how Mad Max stories work. They are famously myths and allegories. They are not about "How does Furiosa know how to make a prosthetic arm?". NOBODY could make a prosthetic arm like that now or post apocalypse. I mean George Miller made it clearer than ever, to the point of flat-out saying it in the text of the story that Furiosa's story is being told by an old storyteller. You miss the forest for the trees by trying to make it all line up. The fact that you need to SEE Furiosa learn to use a gun means you don't understand how to watch movies. NOTHING in Mad Max movies could play out in reality. Miller has PURPOSELY muddied the waters of continuity because he doesn't want to make a realistic movie, he's working in myths, legends and allegory. Furiosa is the person who took over Immortan Joe's empire and this is the story of how she did it presented by an oral story, as were all the films after Mad Max. It's pretty simple. It's like questioning the reality and continuity of Paul Bunyan stories. That's why I tuned out. You are laying out a premise for your review from the start that shows you don't understand what you are watching outside of literal terms and using catch phrases like "Mary Sue" incorrectly. It's low-grade, clickbait analysis.
@@apocalypsetedium BTW, there's a whole sequence in the film showing Furiosa learning to build vehicles like a war rig from the ground up as a child. Do you think maybe that explains her building her arm?
@@apocalypsetedium i do want to throw a disclaimer in: i will watch it at some point and turn all my judgment off and accept it for the piece of art it is and enjoy it all the way through... Can't help it I'm a bit of a purist I love my max and I really want to see another hardcore hard hitting mad Max
Thank you for the comment! I agree. My issue is with characters that are shown to have highly developed skills in an area where their experience or reason for having that skill has not been reasonably established.
Explain. As the video shows, Ripley in 'Aliens' is a competent flight officer. But she's not a soldier. She learns how to use the weapons. And becomes competent at that also. A character can be competent in their field, but still not know how to do things in another.
@@xensonar9652 I disagree. The film spends a lot of run time showing her in the grip of her captors. It could've have spent some of that time showing her learning/building/being creative with gears and gizmos, maybe even inventing a mechanism for the war rig. That would go a long way establishing her ability to build a functioning prosthetic arm. And competency has nothing to do with the fact that when you experience the intense trauma of losing a limb (not to mention the blood loss,) you need time to heal, recuperate. She marches around like she's suffered no damage. And at the end where she empties Dementus' canteen, weapon, and removes his tire, ALL while he's sleeping... that was ridiculous. Had nothing to do with her competence. Had to do with bad filmmaking. The filmmakers WANT something to happen, and they make it SO, even though it defies credulity.
@@apocalypsetedium Seems pretty obvious to me that the environment she was in and the jobs she did would be the places she learnt the skills she has. I don't need to be shown everything. It's there in the subtext. I don't need to be shown William Wallace learning sword fighting or Latin. He does it off screen, and he comes home fully skilled, and I accept it because it makes sense for the character, and showing it adds nothing to the story that isn't already in the subtext.
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I love Mad Max, I watched Mad Max 1979 when I was 10 and I loved it, but I think Furiosa is ok, she doesn't need to be scared all the time, I like how the film makes her tougher over time, this reminds me of 1979 mad max, when max gets his vehicle and revenges.
Thank you for the comment! She definitely gets tougher over the course of the film.
I think you deserve to get atleast some attention. I wanted new movie to be more max but as the title says, its furiosa.
@@Nokšė0 Thank you! I appreciate it!
Nah, honestly , IMO . what this movie is missing is Byron Kennedy , who died scouting scenes(pre-production) for MM3
Miller lost his right hand, and Kennedy lost his life.
They might have well have been the Coen Brothers.
This movie shares something on George Miller still picking up the pieces, after his friend is long gone.
--------------------------------
But the best character in all the Mad Max is still "Toe-cutter/Immortan Joe" . Hugh Keays-Byrne
Mel Gibson, Tom Hardy, Charlize Thezon, or that new purty chick Anna Joy, or that purty dude Thor/Chris Hemsley, all great actors,
stand aside.🙂
--------------------------------------------
I miss Bryon Kennedy working with his friend George Miller as to Mad Max movies. We knew/felt his loss back in 1983.
Thank you for the comment! I agree. Love the first two films where Kennedy's edge is felt. And I love Toecutter! One of the best screen heavies of all time.
the whole last message that dementus was trying to say doesn't work in the mad max setting, there is always going to be revenge and war
the whole "you are just like me" doesn't make sense either because its so over used in other media that it's just stale, i also don't see how they are similar in any way because she wants revenge, almost anyone would have done the same thing, although the way she did it was not best i agree with that
She was never a war boy
Thank you for the comment! I agree. That's what didn't make sense to me. She's hiding amongst them, living as one of them... but not expected to train as one of them? Their whole thing is "war" and dying in battle for Immortal Joe and going to Valhalla to ride eternal. I'd imagine then, that the Citadel has a type of Agoge, a training ritual for the War Pups. In such case, Furiosa would have had to go through it. Or at least part of it, before showing driving skills and getting put on an Imperator track.
No. But she hid with the war pups. And her disappearance from the breeder chamber would have sent Joe into a fit. They don't even touch on that fact.
I clicked off the second I heard you tying yourself into a logical pretzel to figure out how to work the phrase "Mary Sue" in. Another video of a movie viewed through the "stupid" lens.
Thank you for the comment. Not really a pretzel, though. Pretty straightforward. By turning off you did not watch the list of reasons why that term applies. She magically has the skills to build a working prosthetic arm -- with no help from anyone, and with no previous experience building such a device. And, magically, not having to recuperate from the trauma of losing her arm and no doubt a ton of blood. In Road Warrior, Max's car flips over, and he can barely walk. Those are real stakes to a character suffering damage. She displays zero setback from the damage she suffers. She's magically a crack shot with no training. She magically empties Dementus' canteen, empties his weapon, and removes the wheel from his motorcycle -- all while he's sleeping. I mean, how much disbelief can one person be expected to suspend?
Weird you "clicked off" then commented on the very thing you admit you didn't watch. Please go on about other things you don't know about.
@@apocalypsetedium Yeah, these reasons you state are DUMB. They tell me you have zero understanding of how Mad Max stories work. They are famously myths and allegories. They are not about "How does Furiosa know how to make a prosthetic arm?". NOBODY could make a prosthetic arm like that now or post apocalypse. I mean George Miller made it clearer than ever, to the point of flat-out saying it in the text of the story that Furiosa's story is being told by an old storyteller. You miss the forest for the trees by trying to make it all line up. The fact that you need to SEE Furiosa learn to use a gun means you don't understand how to watch movies. NOTHING in Mad Max movies could play out in reality. Miller has PURPOSELY muddied the waters of continuity because he doesn't want to make a realistic movie, he's working in myths, legends and allegory. Furiosa is the person who took over Immortan Joe's empire and this is the story of how she did it presented by an oral story, as were all the films after Mad Max. It's pretty simple. It's like questioning the reality and continuity of Paul Bunyan stories.
That's why I tuned out. You are laying out a premise for your review from the start that shows you don't understand what you are watching outside of literal terms and using catch phrases like "Mary Sue" incorrectly. It's low-grade, clickbait analysis.
@@apocalypsetedium BTW, there's a whole sequence in the film showing Furiosa learning to build vehicles like a war rig from the ground up as a child. Do you think maybe that explains her building her arm?
I'm sorry to say it but it's not acceptable It's not a full-on Mad Max film.
Thank you for the comment! It's true Max isn't even in the film. But the producers are presenting this as being in the Mad Max universe.
@@apocalypsetedium i do want to throw a disclaimer in: i will watch it at some point and turn all my judgment off and accept it for the piece of art it is and enjoy it all the way through... Can't help it I'm a bit of a purist I love my max and I really want to see another hardcore hard hitting mad Max
Yeah 1/3 of the way through there is no reason to watch anymore of this video The whole thing is a disappointment
Not every competent female character is a Mary Sue.
Thank you for the comment! I agree. My issue is with characters that are shown to have highly developed skills in an area where their experience or reason for having that skill has not been reasonably established.
Explain. As the video shows, Ripley in 'Aliens' is a competent flight officer. But she's not a soldier. She learns how to use the weapons. And becomes competent at that also. A character can be competent in their field, but still not know how to do things in another.
@@apocalypsetedium But that's not the case with Furiosa.
@@xensonar9652 I disagree. The film spends a lot of run time showing her in the grip of her captors. It could've have spent some of that time showing her learning/building/being creative with gears and gizmos, maybe even inventing a mechanism for the war rig. That would go a long way establishing her ability to build a functioning prosthetic arm. And competency has nothing to do with the fact that when you experience the intense trauma of losing a limb (not to mention the blood loss,) you need time to heal, recuperate. She marches around like she's suffered no damage. And at the end where she empties Dementus' canteen, weapon, and removes his tire, ALL while he's sleeping... that was ridiculous. Had nothing to do with her competence. Had to do with bad filmmaking. The filmmakers WANT something to happen, and they make it SO, even though it defies credulity.
@@apocalypsetedium Seems pretty obvious to me that the environment she was in and the jobs she did would be the places she learnt the skills she has. I don't need to be shown everything. It's there in the subtext. I don't need to be shown William Wallace learning sword fighting or Latin. He does it off screen, and he comes home fully skilled, and I accept it because it makes sense for the character, and showing it adds nothing to the story that isn't already in the subtext.
Jesus, this review is painful.
Thank you for the comment! In what way?
Ooof now this is the worst Furiosa review I've ever seen.
Thank you for the comment!